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January 22, 2024

U.S. Claims No Alternative To Larger Middle East War

Mainstream media propagandize their readers not only by what they report but also by not reporting on certain views and issues.

A prime example is a recent New York Times 'news analysis' of a White House position on U.S. troops in the Middle East.

The author is Peter Baker the Times chief White House correspondent.

The headline:

As U.S. and Militias Engage, White House Worries About a Tipping Point
The number of attacks on American troops in the Middle East increases the risk of deaths, a red line that could lead to a wider war.

Another day, another barrage of rockets and another spark that American officials fear could set off a wildfire of violence across the Middle East.

The latest attack on American troops in the region over the weekend resulted in no deaths, but President Biden and his advisers worry that it is only a matter of time. Whenever a report of a strike arrives at the White House Situation Room, officials wonder whether this will be the one that forces a more decisive retaliation and results in a broader regional war.

Baker fails to analyze the White House's assumption. He assumes that there is no alternative, TINA as the deceased British prime minister  Maggie Thatcher used to say.

The only response to a deadly attack would be a wider war without it being said how that war would be waged, against whom or for what purpose.

A hint comes only further down in the piece:

As of Thursday, Iranian-backed militias had already carried out 140 attacks on American troops in Iraq and Syria, with nearly 70 U.S. personnel wounded, some of them suffering traumatic brain injuries. All but a few have been able to return to duty in short order, according to the Pentagon.

American forces have at times mounted retaliations, but in limited fashion to avoid instigating a full-fledged conflict.

Biden administration officials have regularly debated the proper strategy. They do not want to let such attacks go without a response, but on the other hand do not want to go so far that the conflict would escalate into a full-fledged war, particularly by striking Iran directly. They privately say they may have no choice, however, if American troops are killed. That is a red line that has not been crossed, but if the Iranian-backed militias ever have a day of better aim or better luck, it easily could be.

It seems like everything happening and every groups in the Middle East is assumed to be 'Iranian backed'.

But neither Hamas, nor Hizbullah nor Iraqi militias nor the Houthi are 'Iranian backed'. They are allies of Iran and each other, not proxy fighters. They make their own weapons and munitions and take independent decisions.

Neither Iran nor Hizbullah nor any other entity besides Hamas knew that the October 7 attack on the Zionist state was coming. Their responses, as far as there were any, followed only after Hamas had already returned to the Gaza strip. To claim that everything and everyone who has a grudge against U.S. positions in the Middle East is 'Iranian backed' is a simplistic propaganda claim that lacks evidentiary backing.

It is evidently made, just like the rest of Baker's piece, to prepare the public for an 'inevitable' war on Iran. A war in which the U.S. would likely suffer another defeat.

To back his thesis of an alternative free decision the Times consults an 'expert':

“The administration confronts a problem without a risk-free solution,” said Aaron David Miller, a longtime Middle East peace negotiator now at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “They don’t want to strike Iran directly for fear of escalation, which only widens the margin for pro-Iranian groups, including the Houthis, to strike at U.S. forces. At some point, if U.S. forces are killed, they’ll have no alternative but to respond directly against Iranian assets.”

There are of course other alternatives and 'risk-free solutions'.

Under international law U.S. military bases in Syria are illegal. There is no UN Security Council resolution that allows for a military intervention in Syria nor has there been an invitation of U.S. troops from the Syrian government.

The U.S. position in Iraq are likewise illegal. The Iraqi parliament has voted against all U.S. bases in its country. The government of Iraq has demanded that U.S. troops leave and seeks negotiations to make that happen. The so called Iraqi militia and its commanders are by the way an integrated part of the official Iraqi army. Any attack on them is an attack on the Iraqi state.

The U.S. could simply recall its troops from Syria and Iraq. That would surely end all attacks against them.

The U.S. has intervened in Yemen by bombing troops of the Ansar Allah government which was seeking to blockade ships related to Israel until it lifts its siege from Gaza.

U.S. related ships were only attacked after the U.S. launched what amounts to an all out war on Yemen.

The U.S. is free to pull its military from its position in Syria and Iraq. The U.S. could stop its attacks on Yemen at any moment. That would immediately end Yemeni attacks on U.S. assets without changing anything else. The U.S. could refuse to support the genocidal war against Gaza.

All these moves would stop the current hostile action against U.S. assets.

But nether of these alternatives is ever mentioned in Baker's piece. There are no alternatives in it because he refuses to provide and discus them.

Baker ends with a quote from the White House:

“We have to guard against and be vigilant against the possibility that, in fact, rather than heading towards de-escalation, we are on a path of escalation that we have to manage,” Jake Sullivan, the president’s national security adviser, said last week during an appearance at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

“It remains a central locus of our strategy,” he added. “Try to ensure that we manage escalation across the Middle East to the maximum extent possible, taking every possible measure that we can in that regard, and ultimately get on a path of diplomacy and de-escalation.”

There is again, in Sullivan's view, no alternative but the simplistic task of 'managing escalation' which inevitably will lead to further clashes. This even when a clear alternative is simply to move out and to stop all military engagement in the relevant countries.

TINA as claimed by the Times and the White House does not exist. There are always alternatives to war.

Posted by b on January 22, 2024 at 15:00 UTC | Permalink

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Surely by Baker's logic half the world should be attacking the US, given that "US-backed" forces kill so many of their people?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 22 2024 15:18 utc | 1

The tragedy is the War Party in Washington has lost every war for the last 60+ years; yet still has become wealthy beyond all imagination. So, the War Party can‘t fathom losing everything.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 22 2024 15:20 utc | 2

So where will it be? The end to the US empire. Ukraine,the Middle East or the streets of America. One place defending the NAZIS another defending ZIONISTS and the last held in what seems a perpetual state of limbo waiting for the next savior president to finally end our self destruction. Which will never happen. Can the bloodsucking US Ruling class and its corrupt corporate masters ever be stopped? Will we ever be truly free?

Posted by: so | Jan 22 2024 15:20 utc | 3

Claims that Iran is behind every action by anyone against the United states hark back to the days when Moscow or Beijing were blamed for any disturbance in Africa, Asia or Latin America. It is nonsense but grist for the propaganda mills.
Ansarallh are not proxies for Iran neither are Hezbollah. The only power with proxies operating internationally is the USA which specialises in them: in Syria, the Kurds and the 'democratic' forces, Daesh, always ready to spring into action anywhere: in the Arabian peninsula, against yemen, in the Hindu Kush against-one time proxy- the Taliban and so on. In Russia in the form of the Ukrainian Bandera-ites. In Burma... and so on.
But does anyone attack the United States to deter it? Not since the World Trade Centre was hit.

Talk of attacking Iran has been going on for twenty years (Real Men go to Teheran etc) but it now looks as if Iran is under the Russian nuclear umbrella.
That ought to put anend to silly talk. But it won't, talk of nuclear strikes, as we know from Shadowbanned et al, is cheap. The less likely it is the easier it is to fantasise about it.
Too many video games- that is the problem with Foreign Policy, most of the think tankers and White House Brains Trusters grew up playing Call of Duty, Fortnite or pacman.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 15:27 utc | 4

> The author is Peter Baker the Times chief White House correspondent.

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Mr. Baker would like to remain in the style to which he is accustomed.

The estimated total pay for a Bureau Chief/White House Correspondent is $122,156 per year in the United States area, with an average salary of $111,902 per year.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/bureau-chief-white-house-correspondent-salary-SRCH_KO0,38.htm

Backhanders and high-fives all 'round.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 22 2024 15:30 utc | 5

"The latest attack on American troops in the region over the weekend resulted in no deaths, but President Biden and his advisers worry that it is only a matter of time."

From above

This sickening Yankee idea that only American lives are important is abhorrent morally; strategically this jingoism inimical to a rational, peaceful world.

"Never sent to know for whom the bell tolls;
it tolls for thee."

John Donne

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 15:31 utc | 6

It's funny to see the US so easily diverted from its supposedly vital "pivot to Asia". Israel truly runs US foreign policy in its own interest.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 15:33 utc | 7

"try to manage escalation" can actually mean direct it ....by the screaming hysterical paranoid zombies that the USA is....that is the subterfuge in the message.

Posted by: Jo | Jan 22 2024 15:36 utc | 8

The UN is facing a similar problem to the league of nations, in that it is fast becoming irrelevant. The zionist veto on the UNSC is going to undo the erstwhile international order into cataclysm sooner rather than later at this rate.

Posted by: liveload | Jan 22 2024 15:37 utc | 9

Alex krainer on his substack wrote that it looks like the want a war.
Because with a war they can have an emergency and all law can be subverted.

https://open.substack.com/pub/alexkrainer/p/clear-and-present-danger-wars-incubate?

Posted by: 0v | Jan 22 2024 15:41 utc | 10

all law can be subverted.

Posted by: 0v | Jan 22 2024 15:41 utc | 10

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The greater interest is in abrogating contracts.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 22 2024 15:48 utc | 11

Back in the day, one of my sons was a big fan of Peter Baker when he was Spiderman.

At least he's still in Showbiz.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 22 2024 15:49 utc | 12

Escalate to de-escalate.

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”
― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jan 22 2024 15:53 utc | 13

Much has been written here and elsewhere on the subject, so there is not much I can add.
It is however clear that the USA and those invested in its practices can ill-afford to simply let go and suddenly repent to being civilized. Certainly the domestic population is highly under-informed in regard to geo-politics, history and untying outside their immediate sphere. IT is therefore relatively easy to sell them anything no matter how divorced from reality it may be. Thus the claim that Iran is behind everything is easy to push because nobody knows anything different. Although I am not sure how much this really matters since the USA is a faux-democracy and as we can all see the military, .gov etc simply do as they please.

What I do find interesting albeit in a dark way is just how escalation will unfold. This is not the 80’s and many countermeasure to the standard methods of USA subjugation are available and likely in place. If thing were to kick off, they might just heat up very quickly complete with precision and saturation attacks on multiple US bases throughout the region. After 20+ years of being an occupation force, US military has quite a few issues that would prevent them from being a viable combat force in the face of anything close to “near-peer”. I’m guessing there many 1000’s of missiles scattered throughout the region, some preregistered to hit the afore mentioned assets. Heck we might even see The Green Zone getting evacuated by a helicopter of Russian manufacture again!

Posted by: Chevrus | Jan 22 2024 15:55 utc | 14

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 15:27 utc | 4

Not the day the World Trade Centre collapsed in some sort of planned demolition after explosions inside it either :)

Look for the speech that Ehud Barak gave on BBC that day. The man had perfect knowledge of the future!

No need to say prayers for the 5 "hijackers" who turned up alive and well after having previously lost their ID on trips to the USA. Yet somehow that was never corrected in the official record. Strange that.

Always remember that Wesley Clarke's 7 countries in 5 years, the order from the Israeli and Zionist neocons in the Pentagon defence council somehow matches well with with the Oded Yinon Plan.

Israel, through its iron control over US foreign policy has been the driving force behind every war in West Asia since 1991 as well as being the architect of the War of Terror.

Christopher Bollyn has the most convincing explanation that fits everything that has happened in the last 33 years.

Bollyn dot com


There are some minor technical details I disagree with but 96% of what he says is well argued and based on his own research.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 22 2024 16:01 utc | 15

Here are the facts as we understand them:
- No authorization - there has been no congressional authorization of US military hostilities against the Houthis in Yemen. This is a clear violation of the War Powers Act which requires such authorization. In fact the Houthis threatened no hostile action against American shipping prior to US/UK airstrikes on their military bases. Their only prior threat was against Israeli bounds vessels. That does not qualify for a War Powers Act exemption.....sorry neo cons.
- Iraq and Syrian US Military Bases - these bases are totally illegal under international and national law. Both the Iraqi and Syrian parliaments have passed legislation specifically demanding the closure of these bases and the evacuation of all US military personnel. And without a UN resolution supporting their presence its illegal to base US forces in their respective nations. So why are they still there?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 22 2024 16:03 utc | 16

Oh and look here come the Chinese to join their mates the RF and Iran.
They have given the Saudi Prince pride of place to end the Palestinian slaughter.
But end, it surely will. No fake blairite , quad. Road maps to kick the can down the road anymore.

Looks like all the pieces are in place , the water is getting to a boil - we in the Collective Waste are like the French citizens - the frogs about to boil in a War in Europe too, again !
For the same purpose as every war in Europe for centuries. We just like to call it a World War for effect. Though this time it seems the rest of the world doesn’t want to be on the sidelines when they have a war in their name.

Though I doubt the RF or China or the Multipolarists are interested in marching into Paris or Berlin again or anywhere in the toxic West - there is nothing there they need or want now or ever did.

But we can look forward to some decent Nuremberg style trials! Many a natzios will hang And by their own testimonies against each other! Thieves , Pirates.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 22 2024 16:04 utc | 17

Being evacuated for "traumatic brain injuries" is I believe a euphemism for death/long term injury.

Therefore I believe Biden had the blood of dead Americans on his hands and is hiding it.

No war so far, in fact given his Afghanistan performance I think we may see a retreat, possibly.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 22 2024 16:07 utc | 18

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 22 2024 16:07 utc | 18

Same euphemism was used in the wake of Iran's retaliatory strike in response to the assassination of Gen. Soleimani.

Which also gets me to thinking about one Mike "Ayatollah" D'Andrea. Anyone heard from/about that dude in a while?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 16:22 utc | 19

Bevin - what's wrong with Pacman?

Posted by: mpn | Jan 22 2024 16:29 utc | 20

Yet another demonstration of long range missiles and precise targeting.
Ain’t seen Mike since the plane crash…ah well I’m sure he’s out there somewhere….
I wonder how long they can keep the “casualty smuggling” going…?
As far as Sept 11 2001…. Yeah the official story is laughably unbelievable

Posted by: Chevrus | Jan 22 2024 16:29 utc | 21

Pq 15 - Remember the Israeli government was one of the foremost cheerleaders for the absurd WND war hysteria with regards to Saddam and Iraq..........

The GW/Cheney War fully endorsed by the Irsaeli, and Uk governments was based on complete falsehoods, namely that Saddam possessed nuclear weapons and or a nuclear industry, and that he had developed a sophisticated CBW capacity.

None of that was true as proven later by International Inspections.......its was a neo con scam which the US media trolls like Peter Baker and David Ignatius supported 100%.


Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 22 2024 16:34 utc | 22

It's funny to see the US so easily diverted from its supposedly vital "pivot to Asia". Israel truly runs US foreign policy in its own interest.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 15:33 utc | 7

It is funny.
On the other hand if the Yankees provoke China into retalliating, China will not stop until U.S.A is on its knees.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 22 2024 16:36 utc | 23

Being evacuated for "traumatic brain injuries" is I believe a euphemism for death/long term injury.

Therefore I believe Biden had the blood of dead Americans on his hands and is hiding it.

No war so far, in fact given his Afghanistan performance I think we may see a retreat, possibly.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 22 2024 16:07 utc | 18

One can only speculate on how traumatic brain injury might affect someone operating the sort of brain that leads them to join the US military. I suspect little, if any, effect.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 16:39 utc | 24

b
" At some point, if U.S. forces are killed, they’ll have no alternative but to respond directly against Iranian assets.”" [extract]

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The obvious alternative is to get your military the eff out of other people's countries.

As for "Iranian assets," how about labeling Israel(and others) "American assets"?

The language and the thinking are pure gaslighting/propaganda/mind-eff.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 16:48 utc | 25

"Mr. Baker would like to remain in the style to which he is accustomed."

The estimated total pay for a Bureau Chief/White House Correspondent is $122,156 per year in the United States area, with an average salary of $111,902 per

Posted by: too scents | Jan 22 2024 15:30 utc | 5

Does that pay package include the CIA bonuses and the free 'groomed' children?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 26

Thanks for the posting b

So, here we are talking about escalation of conflict over ongoing control by the God Of Mammon cult and our form of social organization that has them in control is never discussed.

Will society grow up enough to talk about the reality of its forms of social organization in public?

Or instead are we going to go extinct, probably again, because we cannot evolve beyond barbaric patriarchy.

On with the proxy wars! Into the breech! Support the vaunted exceptionalists of our species..../s

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 22 2024 16:55 utc | 27

"Though I doubt the RF or China or the Multipolarists are interested in marching into Paris or Berlin again or anywhere in the toxic West - there is nothing there they need or want now or ever did."

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 22 2024 16:04 utc | 17

"want now or never did"; that statement is historically incorrect. Last time Berlin was marched on by USSR , and the US as well, needed German scientists.(1)

1.In the aftermath of World War II, the Soviet government captured and put to work thousands of German scientists and engineers in support of domestic military projects. Many were assigned to aid in the development of ballistic missiles but were repatriated back to the German Democratic Republic in the early 1950s.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 16:59 utc | 28

The US can withdraw from neither Iraq nor Syria because it is yet another embarrassing admission of defeat by a minor military power.

Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 22 2024 17:02 utc | 29

It's propaganda that the U.S is seeing no casualties in the middle east.

In fact, U.S soldiers are being killed, just as we were told for days the two military personnel who "went missing" in the Red Sea during the op against Ansarallah were just "lost", but now it turns out they're fish-food:


US Military: Two US Navy SEALs Missing Off Coast of Somalia Are Dead
The SEALs went missing while boarding a boat carrying a weapons shipment allegedly bound for the Houthis
by Dave DeCamp January 21, 2024 at 8:56 pm ET CategoriesNewsTagsSomalia, Yemen
Two US Navy SEALs who went missing in the Arabian Sea off the coast of Somalia are dead, the US military declared on Sunday.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 22 2024 17:15 utc | 30

Baker is talking blob position, on redline. Blob/neocon runs the US show.

Blob has been running Sunni show as well. The shibboleth about Iran is actually blob positioning against Shi’a.

Despite fact Sunni did 9/11!

Blob feeds off keeping Sunni at jihad with Shi’a.

Blob keeps Sunni on side of genocidal Zion.

When does the Arab street rise?

Posted by: paddy | Jan 22 2024 17:16 utc | 31

b, as much as we try to reason with the powers and principalities of the world, there exists the inescapable fact that what Thucydides opined on with his History of the Peloponnesian War stands as perhaps the one immutable fact of the time in which Christianity stands opposed: "it is better to fuck than to be fucked." The weak suffer what they must.

The west's game is a balancing act against the "taking it" approach of the axis. As long as serious casualities for needless cause are avoided, the west can play this game with its population without fear of reactionary, anti-war backlash.

This is chess we are talking about, because the truth of "taking it" means that eventually, the feminine power in the axis will have transformed the phallic empire into something reasonable again.

The axis is not the Melians from Thucydides time. It is the feminine power that will transform the phallic empire but will suffer penetration in the process. Let not the axis succumb to the temptation of meeting phallic power with like. Let it be feminine to transform this unhinged power.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 22 2024 17:17 utc | 32

thanks b.... yes, there are alternatives.. following international law would be an obvious one for the usa, but alas - they like the rules based order and want to replace the system of international law...

this iranian backed bullshit lingo is propaganda for the masses.. they know it.. we know it... the dupes don't know it though..

Posted by: james | Jan 22 2024 17:18 utc | 33

When all you have is a war hammer, everything looks like a human head.

Posted by: Zippy the pinhead | Jan 22 2024 17:21 utc | 34

All of these conflicts (Ukraine, MIddle East, Taiwan) are part of a greater agenda of the central bankers, Rothschilds & co. They're going to take us to WW3, and after that instate a One World Government. They will take cash away, and microchip every one of us. There's also going to be a false messiah who will show up some time in the pretty near future. Then, they're going to kill billions off with some new virus, like they're already talking about. Disease X, anyone? So basically their plan is to enslave humanity and kill many billions of us. This is all in the Bible too, you can go read the New Testament if you want. It's all there. Thankfully, their plan will fail, because Jesus is coming back. Otherwise, they wouldn't kill billions, they'd kill us all with their viruses. At least that's my take on it. These people at the top (well, and their lackeys) are demented and evil.

I think it's unproductive to focus on the smaller picture (each individual conflict) and look at the big picture, the "master plan" that they have in store for us. They have been planning for quite some time. Focusing only on these conflicts misses the point of why they're being fought in the first place.

Posted by: just somebody | Jan 22 2024 17:23 utc | 35

I hadn't heard of this one, difficult to credit, but yes it happened.

EU foreign ministers were dismayed and “disappointed” that Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, had come to Brussels with the suggestion that Palestinians could be housed on an artificial island off Gaza.

Ministers ignored it and went ahead with what they were there to talk about. Nobody engaged with it.(Gurdian)

Yes, he genuinely wants to park the Palestinians on an artificial island. I'm not surprised ministers didn't think he was serious, but he was. The Israeli government is swiftly going off the straight and narrow.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 17:24 utc | 36

@30 arch bungle

Re:missing sailors off Somalia

It's also a good possibility they died assaulting the ship they seized and its been all misdirection with the lost/missing now dead story. No bodies of course.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 22 2024 17:24 utc | 37

How dare they not answer and not fall into the trap (goes for ksa still ready for negociation btw)
This is what french gov funded radio rfi us asking openly! How come Syria is bombed but so passive.
https://www.rfi.fr/fr/moyen-orient/20240122-en-direct-palestine-gaza-combats-forcen%C3%A9s-%C3%A0-khan-youn%C3%A8s-hamas-les-diplomaties-isra%C3%A9lienne-et-palestinienne-re%C3%A7ues-%C3%A0-l-ue

Posted by: Minaa | Jan 22 2024 17:28 utc | 38

When does the Arab street rise?

Posted by: paddy | Jan 22 2024 17:16 utc | 31

After the Western street rises and takes back control of their governments from Zionists, MIC and other deep state interests.

Oh wait a minute. If that happened maybe the Arab street could get on with their lives in peace!

And so could we. No need to eat bugs!

Posted by: Pq | Jan 22 2024 17:29 utc | 39

what's wrong with Pacman?

Posted by: mpn | Jan 22 2024 16:29 utc | 20

I'm thinking bevin would say not so much "wrong" but quite the simplest and most elemental 'personification' of accumulation capitalism. Gobble gobble gobble....don't let the ghosts of your victims catch up to you!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 17:29 utc | 40

Sorry, that is the link
https://www.rfi.fr/fr/asie-pacifique/20240122-guerre-de-gaza-la-troublante-passivité-de-la-syrie

Posted by: Minaa | Jan 22 2024 17:29 utc | 41

So the Bidet regime knows that each attack has the potential for U.S. military deaths but doesn't withdraw them from the hazard even though their deployment is pointless and illegal.

And even so, when a death does eventually occur they plan to escalate to more killing.

Sheer depravity.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jan 22 2024 17:30 utc | 42

Does that pay package include the CIA bonuses and the free 'groomed' children?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 26

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How else are these stenographers going to get along in D.C. without an obvious means of support?

Leadbelly says ==> https://youtu.be/Z2t-X-v7dAM

Posted by: too scents | Jan 22 2024 17:34 utc | 43

re artificial island

Sorry I didn't quote the best version of the story.

The Israeli foreign minister, Israel Katz, has suggested that Palestinians could be housed on an artificial island in the Mediterranean, according to sources at the meeting of EU ministers in Brussels.

It is understood that Katz presented a video on the concept to the 27 EU foreign ministers as an alternative to the two-state solution.

He told them the video referred to a plan made some years ago when he was a transport minister.

The intervention has caused dismay in Brussels where the EU representatives were meeting as part of a mission to lay the ground for a “comprehensive peace plan”.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 17:37 utc | 44

it sounds like those two SEALS are having
their swimming ability and/or training
impugned by the official story.
They couldnt have done better?
Embarrassing degree of thoughtlessness.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 22 2024 17:39 utc | 45

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 22 2024 17:15 utc | 30 et. al

You can also bet your ass that those SEALs weren't just out there swimming on their own. Yemeni missile probably hit a boat and did some damage.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 17:43 utc | 46

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 22 2024 16:03 utc | 16

There is no UNSC authorization for force against Houthis.

Resolution 2722, S/RES/2722 (EN), Nov. 10, 2024

Instead of pointing that out in their "leaks", TheTimes.co.uk and Torygraph traded barbs at Sunak, who he called a COBRA meeting the morning of Nov 11 to prepare "a legal and diplomatic case to support the UK's missile strike on Houthis" after RAF jets returned to base in the wee hours of Nov 12.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 22 2024 17:50 utc | 47

Maybe they should study some history. The Romans. Napoleon. Hitler.

Others have aspired to rule the world. And looked like they had a good chance.

Until they didn't. When they become too big, fought on too many fronts. And defeated themselves.

Two of them in wars against Russia and one in the Middle East....

Posted by: Marvin | Jan 22 2024 17:50 utc | 48

Well, I still maintain that the empire forces in west Asia are sitting ducks. They can’t shoot their way out of the box they’ve created for themselves. Yes, legality of their presence is an issue, but were are they going to after they start the shooting. As I’ve said earlier: some may forget the ‘head traumas’ at Ein-al-Asad and say we’re all in, then in the words of W43: bring it on. Iran sent a reminder recently, just in case the lessons were forgotten.

To me, the Russian security pact is important, since it says any result of the war will be global, but it is not as important, as Iran has been preparing for the eventuality, and the dumb as doornail politicians pushing for this war.

If anyone has any illusions as to how this going to end, I recommend studying the war games ‘Millennium Challenge 2002.’ It is quite sobering, and that was 22 years ago, when Iran’s industry was not as advanced as it is today.

War on Iran IS the end of the world. Rapturist want it so much.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 22 2024 17:53 utc | 49

Back in the day, one of my sons was a big fan of Peter Baker when he was Spiderman.
At least he's still in Showbiz.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 22 2024 15:49 utc | 12

Umm. Peter Parker?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 22 2024 17:55 utc | 50

The MIC MSM has notably avoided any sort of rigorous calculation of what an open conflict with Iran would entail.

First would be a massive exchange of long-range bombardment. This would certainly involve a massive loss of life among US troops within range of Iran's missiles, and likewise Iranian military personnel and civilians. It is also quite assured that Israel would come under missile fire on scale certain to exceed its missile defense capabilities by a large margin; potentially catastrophic for Israel as a functioning state.

Iran would likely physically block the Strait of Hormuz. Over 70% of oil shipped by sea passes through the straits Bab el Mandeb and Hormuz. The effect on energy prices, particularly in states which are substantial importers, would be catastrophic. The U.S. would respond with all possible economic pressure on Iran, including naval piracy, but it's not clear how much incremental damage can accomplish given the existing sanctions have been in place for years.

A boots on the ground invasion of Iran would be a futile bloodbath

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jan 22 2024 17:57 utc | 51

Rules based - What could possibly go wrong? Seal or sap, attempting to board an unfriendly vessel is a good way to get shot and get a free burial at sea.


Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jan 22 2024 17:58 utc | 52

Speaking of war, Trump just "sparked FURY and CONCERN" for not abiding the DC warmongering uniparty line:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-taiwan-remarks-spark-fury-concern-1862602

So sayeth the CIA's preferred mouthpiece, Newsweek. What will the do to sabotage his next POTUS bid...

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 17:58 utc | 53

, the naval forces of the Yemeni Armed Forces, carried out a military operation targeting an American military cargo ship (Ocean Jazz) in the Gulf of Aden using suitable naval missiles

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2031559

Posted by: Exile | Jan 22 2024 18:14 utc | 54

Which also gets me to thinking about one Mike "Ayatollah" D'Andrea. Anyone heard from/about that dude in a while?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 16:22 utc | 19

No Tom. You will not hear of him again. His jet was shot down over Afghanistan.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 22 2024 18:16 utc | 55

The US War Party "may" only stop the forever wars when the battleground is mainland USA and probably not even then. Until that time expect escalation to always to be managed upwards. Higher the escalation higher the profits.

Posted by: James Hammett | Jan 22 2024 18:21 utc | 56

USNS Ocean Jazz

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9509970

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jan 22 2024 18:28 utc | 57

Post a comment about it? Okay. This might not be what moon of Alabama people want to hear. I have already done a long "comment" about exactly where this Gaza conflict came out of and where it is going.

I have not much more to say beyond this.


https://adultsincharge.blog/2024/01/08/gaza-and-zionism/

Posted by: tim rourke | Jan 22 2024 18:46 utc | 58

@too cents #5

I find it quaint that you view US$100k as a substantial sum worthy of comment. I make about that yearly, and live in an apartment that is probably < 100m^2. Even that salary was a 'pity' raise because I never ask, the boss gets antsy and throws me a scrap.

Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Jan 22 2024 18:49 utc | 59

Alastair Crooke does an excellent job today as teacher with his SCF essay and during his video chat with Judge Napolitano, the subject being the Zionist Project organized by Ariel Sharon and furthered by Netanyahu:

The late Ariel Sharon, a long-time Israeli military and political leader, once confided to his close friend Uri Dan that, “the Arabs had never genuinely accepted the presence of Israel … and so, a two-state solution was not possible – nor even desirable”.

In the minds of these two – as well as for most Israelis today – is the ‘Gordian Knot’ that sits at the heart of Zionism: How to maintain differential rights over a physical terrain that includes a large Palestinian population.

Israeli leaders believed that in Sharon’s unconventional approach of ‘spatial ambiguity’, Israel was close to evolving a solution to the conundrum of managing differential rights within a Zionist majority state, which includes substantial minorities. Palestinians, many Israelis believed (until recently), were being successfully contained in a striated political and physical space – and were even being “disappeared” from significance – only for Hamas, on 7 October, to blow apart that whole elaborate paradigm.

This event has triggered a widespread and existential fear that the Zionist project could possibly implode, were its Zionist exceptionalist foundations to be rejected by a wide resistance ready to take the issue to war.

He explains all that and much more with the Judge and details why the general notion of any Two-State Solution given current realities is untenable. Most importantly, Crooke raises the question of what entity is going to remove the Zionists from the West Bank plus enable the connection between Gaza and West Bank as a viable geographic entity.

Altogether, it'll take 45 minutes to read and watch the two. An excellent usage of time IMO.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2024 18:49 utc | 60

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 17:37 utc |

=================

Do you have a link for the artificial island story?

Speaking of the Israeli loony bin, watch this!

https://x.com/PalBint/status/1749047912091250688?s=20

Message to the Houthis: Please allow a shipment of straitjackets to Loonystan pass through the strait.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 18:50 utc | 61

TINA but war for the capitalist pigs ruling America. The US political economy requires war, otherwise it will fail and their subjects will rebel.

Posted by: Wilikins | Jan 22 2024 18:52 utc | 62

Do you have a link for the artificial island story?

Speaking of the Israeli loony bin, watch this!

https://x.com/PalBint/status/1749047912091250688?s=20

Message to the Houthis: Please allow a shipment of straitjackets to Loonystan pass through the strait.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 18:50 utc | 61

Very informative-I had no idea that Israel is going to save the known Universe!

I better change sides, quick!!

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 18:53 utc | 63

It's propaganda that the U.S is seeing no casualties in the middle east.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 22 2024 17:15 utc | 30

My thoughts exactly. When you invent a doublespeak euphemism such as "traumatic brain injuries" (a pleonasm, since traumatic comes from the Greek word τραύμα, meaning injury), instead of stating things by their name, you have something to hide.

I agree this is propaganda preparation for if/when they decide to strike, at a time of their choice. Then they can announce deaths openly.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 22 2024 18:53 utc | 64

The US war mongering and corropt neoCons gladly welcomes a forever wider war, more money in their pocket and their carreers secure even more.
I trust Karma will hit back at these evil doers the same shit they've been spreading for decades.

Posted by: rotsvast | Jan 22 2024 19:08 utc | 65

Peace is not and has never been an option. The US specializes in dominance through military terror. Get in our way and we will march the legions in and put you all to the sword. Such a state cannot appear to be weak. Especially when the issue is serious and this time it is serious.

The important point is that the US is finally in a war it must win and probably can't win. Allowing the effective closure of the Suez Canal is a terrible blow to the Empire's credibility and a serious blow to world trade. This is not a war the US can walk away from without taking serious damage. A failure here will clearly demonstrate the increasingly limited capability of the US to project power into Eurasia.

Similar failures in Afghanistan and the Ukraine are more ambiguous. The case can be made that only if more effort were made the failures need not have occurred. Here the consequences of failure are so great that the utmost effort, if necessary, must be made. Failure is not ambiguous. The means to win simply do not exist.

The Houthis must be removed as a threat to Red Sea shipping by force of arms or the US suffers a major destabilizing defeat to its Empire. A negotiated peace is a sign of major weakness yet a defeat at arms will be all the worse for having been tried and failed. If there is serious resistance there will be serious war.


Posted by: Anon | Jan 22 2024 19:11 utc | 66

Below is a current Reuters posting title

Ukraine war drives shift in Russian nuclear thinking - study

So the West produced a study that is telling the Russians what they think about nukes....LOL!

Project much?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 22 2024 19:14 utc | 67

TINA ... lol , at least old politicians were able to find catchy phrases and engaging formula themselves. Now they are paying cunts like McKinsey with taxpayer money for recycling those old shits and selling that as gold.
They are all PR and no balls and don't even worth the money for the bad PR...

Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 22 2024 19:17 utc | 68

Below is a ZH posting title showing more lies and deceit by the West

China Stocks Crash Through 'Snowball Derivatives' Trigger Levels Overnight

China does not allow derivatives if you don't have skin-in-the-game and this is about bets around a stock market index....max BS here about fools in the West betting on China market index.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 22 2024 19:26 utc | 69

Lathe Baias @ 64

""traumatic brain injuries" (a pleonasm, since traumatic comes from the Greek word τραύμα, meaning injury), instead of stating things by their name, you have something to hide."
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Yes, I think the term is "brain trauma."

"Traumatic" sounds more like a confusion with Post-traumatic stress syndrome, or a general confusion with "traumatic" for psychological disturbance as opposed to trauma as a physical description.

IOW, "traumatic brain injuries" sounds kind of the like the soldiers were upset by the brain injuries.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 19:44 utc | 70

The burglar who killed the homeowner was released and cleared of all charges when it became clear that he killed him in retaliation after the homeowner aggressively attack him.

Posted by: jef | Jan 22 2024 19:54 utc | 71

As a historian I think a lot about Hegel and Marx, and ways in which their different notions of contradiction can be usefully deployed in historical explanation. I've just re-read Immanuel Wallerstein's Historical Capitalism too, a prescient piece in our context.

But in all this I am still struck by the sheer dysfunctionality of the USA. I cannot find a historical parallel (late Republican Rome? Not even close) that holds a candle to the neurotic, contradictory, delusional incapacity of the US (dragging its allies with it) to enter into any kind of sober political or symbolic relationship with reality. The USA is the national and cultural equivalent of an autistic Forest Gump with a nightmarish messianic complex. The historian in me can offer superficially satisfactory explanations, but nothing that gets to the atavistic primitivity of the USA, which, it seems, has gone insane. Literature supplies the only metaphors: Mr Kurtz, perhaps. Baudrillard's Amerique? Eco's Travels in Hyperreality?

It is increasingly clear that the USA is the epitome of a psychotic abusive gaslighting spouse and the RoW not only needs to fast track the divorce, but a slapdown is necessary, one from which it doesn't get up.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 22 2024 19:56 utc | 72

All this BS about traumatic brain injury and since I have been diagnosed with such let me share some insight.

In 2006 I took off the side mirror of a Chevy Avalanche with the back of my bicycle helmeted head and the doc that read the Cat scan afterward wondered in writing why my head didn't blow up or bleed me to death.....but that is another story.

Traumatic brain injuries are the Western classification of trauma to the head that has some symptom requirements and such to say someone has a TBI. It is viewed as like PTSD but worse.....I was also diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety disorder but I digress....

In the world where I found healing this sort of hurt is called the dysregulation of neural networks and EEG therapy can identify and resolve most dysregulation issues for even the most nasty problems like I exhibited. It is sad that the military will throw all sorts of drugs at these TBI victims and not help them heal in a non drug, non invasive manner. It also speaks to the financialization of health care blocking this therapy way from this helping heal all humanities mental health (neural network dysregulation) problems.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 22 2024 20:07 utc | 73

Michael J Springman:
TWO JEWS WALK INTO THE CAPITOL HILL CLUB…
AND THE WORLD IGNORES THEM

"As the Committee for the Republic (headed by John Henry) noted:

"[We were there] “to be undeceived of the Orwellian propaganda of the Israel lobby, the Biden administration, Congress, and university campuses about the ongoing October 7th Israeli war in Gaza that has endured for more than three months. This grisliness has no end in sight.

"Here are the front-burner issues as the Committee sees them:

· Israel

· Palestine

· Genocide

· "Expansion of the war to the West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, the Red Sea, and Iran

· "The criminal complicity of President Biden and Congress in Israel's indiscriminate killing.

"John Henry noted: “As Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, let facts be submitted to a candid world.”

“Judaism is a religion...It is not a racial category. It is not a nation-state. It is the worship of God that transcends national boundaries. [As Rabbi Dovid Weiss from New York City’s Neturei Karta repeatedly states. And as Ruben Kaebellmann, resident in Belgium, always says, “My nationality is German; my religion is Judaism, and I will have no truck with Zionist Israel.”]

"Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. It is a defense of Judaism in its most pristine, unsullied state.

"By any rational application of the Genocide Convention, Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, i.e., deliberately creating conditions of life calculated to physically destroy 2.3 million Palestinians in whole or in part.

"A genocide lawsuit against Israel by South Africa is pending before the International Court of Justice in the Hague.

"The Israeli government has made Gaza uninhabitable: no food, no water, no medicine, no hospitals, no shelter, no place to hide. Even churches and Israeli hostages waving white flags and speaking Hebrew are fair game to the IDF.

"The United States has criminally aided and abetted Israel's genocide with billions of dollars of weapons and other military supplies, intelligence, and diplomatic support in the United Nations Security Council.

"We as citizens have a duty to speak out against what our government is doing. To idle in the face of genocide is to disrespect George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry, among other giants of the American Revolution. ..."J. Michael Springmann from Hausfrauleaks

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 20:10 utc | 75

Powerful and clear video by a Palestinian lawyer gal ( 9minutes) in laymen‘s terms The most documented Genocide in History

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_woWJ3q8o&feature=youtu.be


Pass it on

Posted by: Exile | Jan 22 2024 20:19 utc | 76

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 22 2024 19:56 utc | 72

I have a historical comparison with the current US situation: the Aztecs 1521. Like the Aztecs the Empire will sacrifice its allies to its Gods for gain-Quetzcoatl's blessings in Mexico; Money today for the Empire; both rulers drain tribute from their allies as neighbouring Aztec tribes had to supply slaves, human sacrifice etc to the Aztecs , allies must now buy American treasuries, arms and/or LNG.

Cortes is the BRICS whom the neighbouring tribes (ROW) support as they hate the oppressive Aztecs so gladfully join the Cortes fqaction and through them the Spanish were victorious-I expect the same ending now but when is another question.

The harsh Aztec rule was from 1300-1521; US rule 1800 (?)-2024?.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 20:24 utc | 77

Repeat after me--there is no such thing as "international law" there is only the Empire's diktats (not written down) called the "rules-based order." Can we stop mentioning international law? It is dead and it's been informally dead (although it was official US policy) since 9/11 (and bits and piece before) and has been officially dead since Obama or whenever rules-based order first was used--and this is so f-ing obvious. We are in a historical time when only the fist rules and it no longer has a velvet glove. I hope you all wake up to that fact.

As for "escalation" it all depends on what the Empire decrees which will be a result of whatever happens as a result of the current power-struggle in Washington-Langley-Wall Street which ends up being the struggle between the Neocon gang, the "realists," and the buccaneers.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Jan 22 2024 20:28 utc | 78

The burglar who killed the homeowner was released and cleared of all charges when it became clear that he killed him in retaliation after the homeowner aggressively attack him.

Posted by: jef | Jan 22 2024 19:54 utc | 71

1) the supposed Homeowner isn‘t a homeowner because He never paid for the home - he is an illegal squatter, ia thief ( UNR 194, UNSC 2334, and ICJ opinion 2004)

2) the supposed burglar isn‘t a criminal. He is merely trying to get his property back (UNR 181,)

3) any violent act the illegal squatter commits trying to stay is a crime

https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba

Posted by: Exile | Jan 22 2024 20:29 utc | 79

The US War Party "may" only stop the forever wars when the battleground is mainland USA and probably not even then. Until that time expect escalation to always to be managed upwards. Higher the escalation higher the profits.

Posted by: James Hammett | Jan 22 2024 18:21 utc | 56

The battleground will be the mainland USA not too long after the 24 election. Either Trump in jail and wins, and they won't let him out: insurrection. Or Trump is in jail and loses: insurrection. Or they kill Trump: insurrection. Or Dems win election: insurrection. Or there is no election: insurrection. Or Trump wins and the generals and three-letter agencies depose him: insurrection. Or Trump wins, takes office, and the swamp swamps him like last time: insurrection. Or Trump wins, takes office, and the global economy collapses, Americans experience mass hunger and homelessness: insurrection. Note that this last one is highly likely regardless of any of the other options.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 20:30 utc | 80

"In the world where I found healing this sort of hurt is called the dysregulation of neural networks and EEG therapy can identify and resolve most dysregulation issues for even the most nasty problems like I exhibited. It is sad that the military will throw all sorts of drugs at these TBI victims and not help them heal in a non drug, non invasive manner. It also speaks to the financialization of health care blocking this therapy way from this helping heal all humanities mental health (neural network dysregulation) problems."

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 22 2024 20:07 utc | 73

I had brain trauma as well 25 years ago from cerebral meningitis (108 degree fever, heart stopped for 1 minute, in coma for 3 weeks) where I could not talk for 3 months and when I did I had aphasia-had a few epileptic fits so I was on Dilantin and 5 other drugs (3 different doctors told me I would have to be on these drugs the rest of my life) which was costing me $800 a month (in Canada?) but worse because the drugs were so powerful I could not think straight so my work was dreadful when I got back. .

An investor of mine who was worried about me told me I must see his acupuncturist brother. I did. The acupuncturist told me to throw all the drugs out. I did. I took 2 treatments a week for about 2 months and fully recovered.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 20:35 utc | 81

Re #2

In what sane universe is a nation with a 32 trillion dollar debt " wealthy".

Hemingway had something pertinent to say about that state of affairs.

Posted by: eagle eye | Jan 22 2024 20:41 utc | 82

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The US should consider this: The members of the resistance are no more proxies of Iran than Israel is a proxy of the US

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 22 2024 20:42 utc | 83

Re 72, close, but look closely at the preponderance of dual citizens in the US administration and you will see that the source of the gaslighting resides far closer to a genocidal little state on the eastern side of the Mediteranian Sea.
The Russians, Chinese and Iranians are playing down the clock waiting for the internal dissonance in the US and the inevitable debt default to cripple the thug state and leave the genocidal, narcissistic bully exposed for all the world to see. One can only hope the understand that behind this bully state stands a very small cohort of extremely wealthy and evil.people pulling strings.

Posted by: eagle eye | Jan 22 2024 21:04 utc | 84

canuck | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 26 posted:

The estimated total pay for a Bureau Chief/White House Correspondent is $122,156 per year in the United States area, with an average salary of $111,902 per
____
That's actually not a lot of money -- minimum wage for someone in Baker's echelon in New York City or Wash, DC.
It was "starting salary" for a new grad lawyer in Cleveland, OH 20 years ago.

Baker and his wife, Susan Glasser, publish "privileged" books, collect $$$$ speaking fees, etc.

His Correspondent's salary pays for his meals out. Maybe.

Posted by: ChasMark | Jan 22 2024 21:07 utc | 85

Patroklos | Jan 22 2024 19:56 utc | 72

I think the explanation of the apparent disfunctionality of the US is that it is an oligarchy wrapped up in the conceits of democracy- the pretense that it implements the will of the people- and service to a higher(Christian) morality.
The ruling class itself is riven with divisions over issues of no importance-in comparison that is with the interests of the class which would not be difficult to promote.

Essentially the oligarchy have got so used to contracting out government to 'professionals' (administrators, intellectuals, PR men, military specialists ) that it has allowed them to pursue interests entirely contradictory of their own.

For example, the ruling class has no interest at all in geo-strategic competition with China, Russia, India or any other power or bloc. Quite the contrary it would suit the interests of the corporations and the class that owns them to recognise the inevitable tendency of other powers to cater to the spheres of influence that geography and history indicates are appropriate. Such are the optimal conditions for doing what they do best: exploiting labour and accumulating capital. For which peace and "free" commerce, which is to say commerce under their control and according to their rules, including freedom of migration, are far more conducive than the repeated alarums of wars and crises in international relations.

I referred to the "professionals" proffering their services to the ruling class and, for a very comfortable life of rewards, shouldering the burden of government for them. Here the underlying problem is that, despite the theory that this involves competition, with the most convincing group winning the 'contract' to rule and its competitors, by criticising its rule and putting forward alternative policies, forming an opposition ready, should the 'ins' lose the confidence of their bosses, to take over and pursue different policies. Despite this theory in practical terms there can be very little difference between the competing parties because they are captives of the one section of the ruling class whose interests are opposed to the general interest of capitalists as a whole.

I refer to the parasitical Military Industrial Complex which dominates the training and recruitment of the "professionals" who compete for the contract to govern on behalf of the ruling class. It is the MIC which, by its nature, is committed to constant international strife- far beyond the competition for markets, investment, labour, resources characteristic of the capitalist system. A competition quite capable of being arbitrated and regulated to serve the real interests of the increasingly interlocking oligarchies around the world.

In other words the United States is disfunctional at the top because, at one and the same time, it is committed to Globalisation and its polar opposite Hegemony.

Multipolarity is actually much more conducive to the interests of the capitalist class than hegemonic initiatives which, by their nature, not only involve enormous waste but lead to the creation of national (and equivalent) popular blocs or movements which are liable to act in ways prejudicial to the interests of the ruling class, capital accumulation and the enslavement of labour.

Which explains the rise of BRICS whose sole purpose is to free the capitalist class from the burdens of a destructive military competition which is, in any realistic assessment, no longer an option. Nuclear war, for example, makes no sense at all: there can be no victors. And the same can be said of biological or chemical warfare, as well as, in all probability, AI warfare.

War is obsolete. That is what BRICS understands. And it is what the United States and its diminishing imperial base, shrinking into a parody of the old competing empires of Europe and Japan, cannot bring itself to recognise.
Which is 'where we came in': the Empire doesn't work any more because it no longer makes any sense. There is nowhere for it to go except for a Woke exploration of its own orifices.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 21:08 utc | 86

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 15:27 utc | 4

Talk of attacking Iran has been going on for twenty years (Real Men go to Teheran etc) but it now looks as if Iran is under the Russian nuclear umbrella. That ought to put an end to silly talk. But it won't, talk of nuclear strikes, as we know from Shadowbanned et al, is cheap. The less likely it is the easier it is to fantasise about it.

About 15 or more years ago I wrote elsewhere that in order to conquer the Persian Gulf the US mil would have to wait until events evolved such that it was driven by whatever 'axis of evil' to 'take its gloves off' and use tactical nukes to subjugate Iran. It didn't happen in 2008-11 when the US had its claws in Afghanistan and Iraq with Iran in a pincer, cos apparently the Pentagon told the Bush crazies "NO!"

But it's still true today, and events will still have to evolve (another 5 years?) but the Kahanists in Israel now have their hands on the nuke button and are driving for their 'final solution' to the problem of biblical Greater Israel. So I'd say we're closer than ever before to the US neocons achieving their apocalyptic dream of "bomb bomb Iran" by goading the Israeli Kahanists into a suicidal war that will drag the US mil into another catastrophic quagmire right at the moment the US/EU global financial empire is collapsing ... at which point I reckon it's entirely thinkable that tactical nuclear weapons will be unleashed against a non-nuclear state in a 'total war against evil'.

As Dick Perle once allegedly said:

If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage a total war, our children will sing great songs about us years from now.

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Jan 22 2024 21:12 utc | 87

Usa has moved on from operation genocide protect , to now calling their actions operation poseidon attack. A definite shift in the language ,

On another note I was told but can't verify as I don't have Facebook, but the israeli propaganda advertising that appears in facebook feeds has the report button removed so no one can object.

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 22 2024 21:18 utc | 88

This article summarises all that is self evident to most here at MoA, so maybe a small ray of sunshine is creeping in through the fog in Australia:
https://johnmenadue.com/the-western-club/

Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Jan 22 2024 21:21 utc | 89

Please watch the slick Gaza Island PR video. It must be seen to be believed. And I think it MUST BE seen to give an idea of the planned hell---Alcatraz on steroids---that they label a humanitarian solution for the Gazans.
KZ Gaza 2.0. The prisoners could have jobs in the gas works! Just like the Bunawerk in Auschwitz 2!
And also to get an idea of just how far gone mentally the Zionists are.
And of just how dumb they actually think the Goyim are.
And these nutsos have nukes.

The only link I see to the actual video is within parentheses at the end of the first graf of the Reuters article (I couldn't find an independent link):

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN19J1XV/

It is so grotesque as to IMO constitute irrefutable evidence that the Israeli government is not only criminal but flipped its lid long ago. Not only does it reinforce the idea that they planned the total Gaza Clearance a long time ago but they thought this brain storm would be taken seriously. I guess at the EU they politely looked away but drew no further conclusions (namely, What are we doing even talking to these escapees from a lunatic asylum and pretending they are normal?).

It must be seen to be believed.

BTW the "Gaza island" creation, paid for by international investors, would be groovy way to move the borders of Eretz Israel many miles farther to the west and surely enclose more and more gas fields. Oh, and there would be a gas works on this beautiful new island with a drawbridge that can be lifted . . . But not one shred of greenery to be seen in the plan for a new, improved KZ Gaza.

It looks like this idea was the baby of Israel Katz.

This video leaves me at a loss for words.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 90

One can only hope the[y] understand that behind this bully state stands a very small cohort of extremely wealthy and evil.people pulling strings.

Posted by: eagle eye | Jan 22 2024 21:04 utc | 84

Pure bullshit.

Those "wealthy evil people" didn't perform the real physical act of bombing, torturing, genociding, backstabbing, polluting, poisoning and stealing all these centuries. (They did participate in a small fraction of the raping). No, all of that was done by "normal" americans. The same ones that woot and fist pump with glee when the "russkies", "nips", "gooks", "sand niggers" or whatever the chill new enemy is any given year gets torn into piles of gore. The same Americans that man the CIA, pfizer, guantanamo, the Ukraine biolabs, the rape tunnels. The same ones who killed 1.5 million bison to starve the natives. The same ones bombing Donbass right now. Most of them from their own bloodlust, no bribes, no blackmail, no pressure needed.

No other nation does that, no matter how much creepy apologists like mearsheimer try to claim they do.

Behind the bully state stands the second most evil, deranged and hedonistic people to ever mar this planet.

Posted by: Michael A | Jan 22 2024 21:37 utc | 91

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 90
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Apologies for deleting by mistake, hence all BF.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 21:40 utc | 92

>Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 20:30 utc | 80

Wow, you really have a hard-on for insurrections, buddy. You got your rifle ready to go? What cause are you even going to be dying for?

Are you even a US Citizen in the first place or are you just trolling us??

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 22 2024 21:49 utc | 93

>Posted by: Michael A | Jan 22 2024 21:37 utc | 91

The more I learn about the world the more I start to think that US absolutely deserved the tragedy of 9/11 as a comeuppance for its crimes and hubris.

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 22 2024 21:52 utc | 94

"The U.S. is free to pull its military from its position in Syria and Iraq. The U.S. could stop its attacks on Yemen at any moment. That would immediately end Yemeni attacks on U.S. assets without changing anything else. The U.S. could refuse to support the genocidal war against Gaza.

All these moves would stop the current hostile action against U.S. assets." - DaUS cannot do anything without the approval of DaSynagogue of Satan.

Posted by: Crush Limbraw | Jan 22 2024 21:52 utc | 95

The NYT is now fully a mouthpiece of the CIA and the US war industry. It's busy manufacturing consent for the empire's crimes, part of which is "objective" reporting, which is in fact a sophisticated manipulation of "facts" to come to the desired conclusion. Which NYT readers eat up.

Posted by: D | Jan 22 2024 22:01 utc | 96

b wrote:

But neither Hamas, nor Hizbullah nor Iraqi militias nor the Houthi are 'Iranian backed'. They are allies of Iran and each other, not proxy fighters. They make their own weapons and munitions and take independent decisions.

Simplicius76 in his latest article:


"The massive US base at Ain al-Assad in Iraq underwent a large attack from Iranian-backed forces."

Maybe simplicius is wrong ...

Posted by: schkid | Jan 22 2024 22:12 utc | 97

The most insidious propaganda are the "sins of omission".
Left unreported, it didn't happen.
Leaving out half the report can completely change it, especially if you re-assemble it out of order out of context.

Propaganda is often outright untruths, but carefully couched (cited) to later appeal to plausible deniability.

But most of all, propaganda is simply:
1. Selection (& omission & using ugly photos)
2. Framing
3. Slanting
Well done, it shouldn't feature untruths.

Posted by: Webej | Jan 22 2024 22:25 utc | 98

Just like to point out this gem:

When Western nations send weapons and money to Ukraine it is not considered part of the war. They are merely "assisting" Ukraine.

Now when allegedly Iran backs a force that attacks a base in Iraq, now Iran IS directly involved, and we start discussing military intervention in Iran because of the support.

I suppose this is the "Rules Based Order".

Why shouldn't Russia consider bombing Western europe by this analogy, the same way the US is considering bombing Iran?

Posted by: Single commenter | Jan 22 2024 22:46 utc | 99

"...simplicius is wrong ..." schkid | Jan 22 2024 22:12 utc | 97

They could both be right and probably are. It depends what you mean by Iranian backed. I back them too, but I don't supply them with arms, training, ammunition or finance.
The US propaganda mills use the term to suggest that these independent, voluntary, self governed militias are folowing Iran's government's orders.
b is saying that they don't.
simplicius, in the quotation you cite, is not contradicting him.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 22:46 utc | 100

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