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January 22, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-025

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Add some geo-political context here. Washington needs to “fix” Russia along the NATO-Ukraine frontier znd away from the looming Middle-East war front. That is the job the US likely asks the European leaders and NATO to work on.
Posted by: Richaard L | Jan 22 2024 17:51 utc | 11
From their own public speeches and actions so far, Russia has no interest. It’s the multipolar world in action, each for himself so they pose even less threat to US’ chain gang. With Iran so far is only trade. Last year, there was some news I couldn’t check that Erdo basically woke up upset one day and canceled their flight paths, so getting there could be a problem for Russia. Nebenznya, the complainer at UN, called Yemen terrorists (tass.com/russia/1729123) and told them to stop immediately (or what?). Lebanon said they would like to see Russia involved in peace talks but they’re not (tass.com/world/1735917). I doubt they will be, it does not benefit Israel.
With Hamas, all they demand is the release of Russian hostages. But those must have double citizenship, the important one being the other one. I don’t think Hamas captured Russians in vacation and no one said otherwise so far. Even more, Hamas said a few weeks ago their release wasn’t approved by Israel which controls the door to Egypt. With China is even less interest as long as their ships can arrive in Israel, where the money is (tass.com/economy/1730077)

Posted by: rk | Jan 23 2024 9:12 utc | 101

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 7:52 utc | 96

Not only is that false\fake news, the version you regurgitated here didn’t even bother getting the year correct.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 23 2024 9:22 utc | 102

fake news, the version you regurgitated here
Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 23 2024 9:22 utc | 102

Verbatim!
Here is the video of the exchange ==> https://youtu.be/i4Z9g7BOEt8?t=119
Maximalist objectives are the current fashion.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 9:32 utc | 103

Ministry of Defence of Estonia had publicated a plan for an Ukrainian victory in 2026. Well, Estonia in 1.5 million powerfull state and also strange one, most of neighbours have a jokes about estonians. Numbers is not an actual army but the total population.
Plan:
“Nato unite.”
“Increase military production”
“Train ukrainains more.
“Kill as many russians as possible.”
“2024 or 2025 will be the hardest but 2026 Ukraine will win.”
Maybe not but this plan will certainly influence decisions.
Official site of ministry of Defence of Estonia:
https://kaitseministeerium.ee/sites/default/files/setting_transatlantic_defence_up_for_success_0.pdf

Posted by: Alef | Jan 23 2024 9:34 utc | 104

Well Austin is apparently back at work – at home. Russia is apparently flying along the Israel Syria border. Scholz blames Russia for his energy crisis and his party hacks seem to accept this. The EU is preparing for Russia to invade even though they haven’t left Donetsk. The Houthi are telling the USUK they are not scared of WWlll, but I think I am. It’s a really f@&k@d up world we live in but we in the west need this war – apparently – to hide our economic and social collapse as we can’t think of what else to do.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 23 2024 9:47 utc | 105

Here is the script that moves post’s author name in top of comment.
The original creator’s (TomD) url is in a comment, the visual changes were made by me and can be changed as it suits you
https://pastebin.com/xAxNQPUT

Posted by: aletsan | Jan 23 2024 9:48 utc | 106

1 & 4
While Natonazis slaughter russian civilians the chessmaster
will make us happy with another senseless whining speach & another pathetic red line. This wannabe chessmaster needs professional medical help to sort his red lines in his head. I fear that he will no longer see the wood for the red line trees

Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 23 2024 9:51 utc | 107

scents | Jan 23 2024 7:52 utc | 96

Reporter’s question:
– Putin signed an executive order declaring the sale of Alaska to the United States in 1983 illegal. How do you respond to this?
US State Department Deputy Press Secretary Vedant Patel:
“Let me get this straight. Did he sign a document stating that the sale of Alaska is illegal?
– yes.
“I think I can say for all of us in the U.S. government: of course, he won’t get it back.
https://t.me/jnb_news/42504

This liberal kleptomaniac kremel talkmaster is slowly getting embarrassed.
* 20 Years ago, this cheater wanted to sell the Kurillen to Japan. The Japanese had no interest.
* 2 Years ago, until now, he still wanted to sell out Ukraine, with the Crimea and with the Donbass ( with Million Russian there )
* and now such an Alaska deal
Cortisone is not good for the brain
(but he just steals since 25 yaers everything)

Posted by: theo | Jan 23 2024 10:16 utc | 108

Inki | Jan 23 2024 9:47 utc | 104
An insane leadership in the west and the sheeple for the most part cheering their own destruction. Incredible to watch. Like some science fiction movie, but as the saying goes truth is stranger than fiction. The joys of American style dumbocracy and privatization… not to mention hollyweed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 10:27 utc | 109

For a long time now the Rus military had been talking about Russian moves on the frontline as position. The goal of this is now starting to take shape in the form of numerous small firebags, further increasing the effectiveness of the eradication of Ukroids.
Saw a video today of Ukroids burying their own in a mass grave on the frontline. No coffins no body bags. Just stack them in the hole and fill with farm tractor. Doubtful the grave will be marked as these corpses will be listed as MIA. I assume that will be going on all around the frontline rather than just one instance.
MinskII…. Peace agreement of 2022 … nah. They were gonna defeat Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 10:38 utc | 110

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 10:38 utc | 109
I wonder why those fire bags are not closed. I remember in 2014 I think the whole Ukrainian army was surrounded in a what some people called cauldron and that’s when the Minsk agreement was signed. I know nothing about military strategy or tactics but it seems that avoiding frontal assault on Avdeevka would save some lives, potentially on both sides.

Posted by: RB | Jan 23 2024 10:58 utc | 111

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 10:38 utc | 109
Those ‘MIA graves’ have been a thing since 2022, but over time they have become much more prominent. It’s partly about stealing wages, and partly about covering up losses.
In Krynky the attempt to feed more troops to hold the bridgehead was maintained to the very last, despite (reportedly) over half of the small boats were hit with drones, and a lot of movement was disrupted on the beach.
In Avdeevka, RUAF moved NW toward SW corner of Avdeevka and cut off the best fortified position in the south, the air defense base, where an elite AFU unit was trapped and captured. AFU has now retreated to the residential quadrant in the SW corner, called ‘the fortress’.
Dissecting the front and creating more smaller fire bags is part of methodically eliminating the remaining AFU, which is unable to maneuver anymore. They can sit and wait and call it ‘active defense’ like some Nato think tank said.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 11:09 utc | 112

My friend Misha in Kiev informs me that it is still easy to bribe your way out of conscription, as long as you still have money. The moment you don’t have it,  though, you’re done.
Also he says that most people have totally emotionally disconnected from the war. They don’t give a damn how it goes, just as long as it stops. They’ll happily settle for Russian  rule, what they want is an end to the killing. 
 
[To be clear, this is someone I know in real life who’s stayed with me in my house more than once. He told me back in early February 2014 that the Maidan “protests” would break up the country. Over the years he told me about the nazification of Ukrainian society, unlike the delusional crap of people like the Faker who insisted Ukrainians would rise up against the nazi regime the moment Russia arrived at the door. He’s been very accurate so far.
In his view, by the way, both Ukranazistan and Russia have already lost because of the deaths, destruction and hatred caused by the fighting.]

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 113

Accoring to the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, the U.S. is setting up a colonial administration in Ukraine, filling government with people who have studied in the U.S.
Seen that way, most of Europe is a colony.

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 23 2024 12:04 utc | 114

I wonder why those fire bags are not closed.
Posted by: RB | Jan 23 2024 10:58 utc | 110
Why shut down a good thing. Zelensky needs to show the west he can hold the lines to keep the gravy train running. A cauldron only eliminates what is within it when it is closed. A firebag is more akin to a slaughterhouse where the lambs constantly file in.
Also, in demilitarizing Ukraine, Russia has set up a fixed line of destruction rather than a line of destruction that rolls across Ukraine destroying civilians homes and infrastructure as it goes.
Its all about maximizing Ukraine military losses and minimizing Russian losses.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 12:05 utc | 115

The majority of adds on youtube now seem to be for Ukraines main export. The blurb for one such ‘sponsored video’.
Discover Slavic Women Looking for Love
Connect with Ukrainian Singles Today and Start Your Romantic Journey Join Our Dating Site.
…..
Even before 2022, I looked up Odessa on youtube and the long list of search results was swamped with young women showing off their assets hoping to attract a foreign husband.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 12:10 utc | 116

@RB 110
The Ukranazis are much stronger on the Avdeevka flanks and the ground is open, so they can take a huge toll with drones of Russian attacks. They in fact depleted their forces in the city to shore up the flanks. This is the reason for the sudden major Russian advance in the city itself. It isn’t just a question of why Russia
isn’t closing the cauldrons. Russia at the moment is incapable of closing the cauldrons without taking unacceptable losses. What Russia can do, however, is advance through the city to split the Ukranazi defence line, and that’s what it is doing.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 12:16 utc | 117

NATO is going to hold the largest military exercise EVER ??? Is this meant to hide/to postpone the confroantation with the fact that NATO has lost/is losing the war in Ukraine ???
Larry C. Johnson:
– Zelenski is going to replace Zalushny with Budanov (head of ukrainian intelligence) because Zalushny “doesn’t agree” with Zelensky. But Budanove has ZERO experience to lead an army.
– The ukrainian army and political system is rife with corruption.
– The average age of the average ukrainian soldier has risen to 43 years.

Posted by: WMG | Jan 23 2024 12:29 utc | 118

An idea that The West is weak is delusion. At this moment they cannot wage ground war but the population of Eastern Europe would be good enough for this. Poland is an immense reservoir of such would be soldiers.
Furthermore The West can use cruise missiles in a very massive attack against Russia. Their escalation capacity is huge. Even the nuclear exchange between EU and Russia would be no problem for USA.
The Western elites are not afraid, contrary to the Russian oligarchs. They do not care about their population. Specially Anglo Saxons (their elites) who never experienced a social revolution still have that aristocratic mindset.

Posted by: zorge | Jan 23 2024 12:46 utc | 119

They do not care about their population.
Posted by: zorge | Jan 23 2024 12:46 utc | 118
well isnt it assuring to know that the governments in the west dont care about their populations.
The Western elites are not afraid, contrary to the Russian oligarchs.
Posted by: zorge | Jan 23 2024 12:46 utc | 118
why do you call one side elite, and the other oligarchs? care to explain?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jan 23 2024 12:50 utc | 120

Posted by: aletsan | Jan 23 2024 9:48 utc | 105
More blind luck than anything, but “insert code here” was what I saw, I pasted in the text from your link, and voila! Thank you. Lol, I doubt I could easily recreate how I did it though. Just wish configuring add-ons on Firefox in Android was easy. I’m typing this while using Windows.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 23 2024 12:55 utc | 121

Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 12:16 utc | 116
The technology of war changes so the drones are meaningless in that sense. The accepted ratio of attacking forces to defending forces have always been around the three to one. A retreating or defending force, well led, regardless of tech of the day can always take a higher toll of the attacking force.
By moving into Ukraine, Russia is the attacking force but they have turned that around by setting up the fixed battle lines which Ukraine/nato has to attack to drive them out.
The cook was all about ‘taking Backhmut, but he was losing one to every two Ukrainian/nato killed. Russian military has been consistently running a ratio of 1-7 to 1-10. Something practically unheard of in this type war.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 12:58 utc | 122

Thank you Babel-17.
You are right about not being the most easy thing to do.
Having a bit of coding knowledge helps.
So, here is a small explanation about how to apply the script:
You can manipulate how a site works and is displayed using Greasemonkey which is an addon you install in your browser.
So, first you install the Greasemonkey addon to your browser.
After you install Greasmonkey, you go to its menu and select: New user script.
A new tab will appear with an empty script template.
You delete everything and paste the script I posted.
You press the save button to save the script and you open/reopen MoA site.
If you want to make any changes to the script you go to Greasemonkey menu, select the script and choose edit.
You make the changes you want, save script again and open/reopen MoA site to check the result.
I don’t really use small devices to do serious stuff on the internet, so I can’t help you all with applying it on them.
But the steps should be the same, you usually only need to adapt to the specific platform small changes.

Posted by: aletsan | Jan 23 2024 13:26 utc | 123

The Western elites are not afraid, contrary to the Russian oligarchs. They do not care about their population. Specially Anglo Saxons (their elites) who never experienced a social revolution still have that aristocratic mindset.
Posted by: zorge | Jan 23 2024 12:46 utc | 118
If the US-UK was truly not afraid of nuclear war they would have gone for it at some point in the late 50’s, back then SAC could have probably glassed the USSR in exhange for an handful of cities at most. As for Poland they are setting themselves up for a cozy spot in the expected Cold War 2.0, committing mass national suicide would upset that. They might still do it of course but I would advise you against betting the farm upon it.

Posted by: Satepestage | Jan 23 2024 13:42 utc | 124

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/97255

‼️BREAKING
‼️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ There are reports that the settlement of Pletenevka in the Volchansky district of the Kharkiv region has been taken under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
If this information is confirmed in the near future, it will mean that the creation of a buffer zone to the south of the Belgorod region has begun.
This is a reasonable decision, especially if we take into account the regular shelling of Shebekino, Valuyok and other settlements of the region, including Belgorod.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/99288

🚀🛸 In Russia, trials of anti-drone missiles are concluding, and they are expected to be deployed on the air defense missile systems in the Special Military Operation soon, according to a source cited by RIA Novosti.
The mini-missiles will be utilized within upgraded “Pantsir” systems. These new missiles follow the standard “Pantsir” configuration with an acceleration stage and a cruising stage but significantly reduced in size both in diameter and length.
As a result, each “Pantsir-SM” combat vehicle can now be equipped with 48 anti-drone missiles instead of the standard 12.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 23 2024 14:20 utc | 125

In his view, by the way, both Ukranazistan and Russia have already lost because of the deaths, destruction and hatred caused by the fighting.]
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 112

Quite accurate
The US set it up in such a way that it will be a lose-lose for Russia no matter what.
Even if they do win militarily, they will be saddled with fixing all the damage caused by the war (just as in WWII) while having become dependent on China without an alternative, which will sow the seeds of a future Russo-Chinese war some decades down the line.
The solution in such situations is to jump out of the pot before it has heated too much, but that required different leadership throughout all these years.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 14:44 utc | 126

There are reports that the settlement of Pletenevka in the Volchansky district of the Kharkiv region has been taken under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

==>
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/110503

The rumors about the occupation of the village of Pletnevka by Russian troops on the border of the Belgorod and Kharkov regions do not correspond to reality. There are currently no large-scale offensive operations being carried out there.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 14:46 utc | 127

https://t.me/vicktop55/20521

Political scientist Vladimir Kornilov: “Some kind of slow reaction in the West. The local press suddenly noticed Karaganov’s article on a “preemptive nuclear retaliatory strike,” which he published back in June last year. This happened in connection with the mention of this concept in a report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies “They came to the conclusion that Moscow did not believe in delivering a retaliatory nuclear strike in the event of the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. And they referred to Karaganov’s article. Only after this were articles in today’s press!”
Around the same time in 2022, I wrote about the need for Russia to escalate for the sake of de-escalation. This is a little different from what Sergei Karaganov writes about, not about the need for nuclear strikes on NATO targets in Europe. This is perhaps the ultimate case of escalation.
But Russia had to show its determination to win in Ukraine and show the inevitability of this victory even then. Since then, the West has escalated the situation with deliveries of heavy equipment and weapons to Ukraine, attacks on Russia’s deep rear areas, and the West is still ready and intends to destroy Russia.
As Karaganov correctly writes, no reconciliation is possible here. And Russia must lower the excessively high threshold for the use of nuclear weapons. But even without the use of nuclear weapons, Russia may well show its determination to fight.
By launching conventional strikes against NATO installations in Europe on Ukraine’s western border that are involved in supporting the war with Russia. And there will be no nuclear response from the United States to this strike.
They will not risk a Russian retaliatory strike on their territory because of the war in Europe. If NATO cannot stop this war on its own, it must be stopped. And here we must understand that the further the escalation of the war on the part of the West moves, the more radical and specifically nuclear strikes will be required from Russia to stop these actions.
If Russia does nothing to stop NATO, then Russia itself will be dealt not a warning, but a disarming, destructive nuclear strike. This is where we are today. Not very fun, I agree. But you will remember Russia’s peaceful demands for security guarantees in 2021, which were rejected by the West. Everything could have happened without war.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 15:01 utc | 128

shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 14:44 utc | 126:
The US set it up in such a way that it will be a lose-lose for Russia no matter what.
The Americans just think that you can’t live a humane life other than the way they do – and of course the Europeans do, to a certain extent. But Russia has managed without the entire West for many decades – and the same applies to China – and even in Cuba, which has been under sanctions for decades, life shouldn’t be that bad, if there is even a life without Porsches and Mercedes. The total inability and unwillingness of those in power in the West to put themselves in the position of others will inevitably cost them their asses.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 23 2024 15:03 utc | 129

Posted by: aletsan | Jan 23 2024 13:26 utc | 123
Ah, Greasemonkey, I used Tampermonkey, which I already have. It didn’t provide an empty field, so for total amateurs like me Greasemonkey offers the simpler way to do things. Thanks again!
Back on topic, I’m waiting on more in depth commentary, with more confirmations, of the possibly very important developments of the front between the AFU and the Russian led coalition forces. Yadda yadda yadda, I see it as possible that, as was predicted here and elsewhere, Russia’s tactic/strategy of maneuvering, feinting, and engaging, all up and down the line of contact is paying bigger dividends now. I think Ukraine growing short of artillery barrels as being a big factor in Russia gaining an advantage.
Once Russia knows where the AFU was unable to provide a full customary complement of artillery, they seek to deploy a strong advantage of their artillery, and then capitalize on that.
Having an advantage in drones, artillery, and aircraft deploying bombs, is a big part in exploiting this advantage, imo, as Russia often can eschew actually following through with attacks, and instead merely pick off the Ukrainian assets that get hurriedly scrambled over land to reinforce the threatened positions. It must be unnerving to be part of the Ukrainian command and control that has to keep their forces optimally deployed in an environment where the foe is continually maneuvering its assets about.
And it must be infuriating that the Russian have an incredible line of defenses to operate from behind, so they generally risk little when moving assets away from a position. This is basically the opposite of the Ukrainian situation.
“The Eastern front is a house of cards!” – I think that was a line voiced by James Mason in Cross of Iron as he played Oberst (Col.) Brandt. That indicated the German forces had been reduced to the point that all they could was play defense, they had no reserves to use for offensive maneuvering. I might be remembering a scene from a different film though.
Ha, a quick search indicates that could be the case, lol. 😉
https://quotefancy.com/quote/1218296/Heinz-Guderian-The-Eastern-front-is-like-a-house-of-cards-If-the-front-is-broken-through

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 23 2024 15:10 utc | 130

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 14:44 utc | 126
Russia won’t ‘rebuild Ukraine’, they will just beat on the AFU until the state fails, and isolate the collapsing state from itself. And then exercise tight filtering of whoever is allowed to enter Russia.
When the smoke settles, we will see what’s left.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 15:16 utc | 131

In his view, by the way, both Ukranazistan and Russia have already lost because of the deaths, destruction and hatred caused by the fighting.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 112

Complete framing. This is how the US will sell their defeat to its people: America and NATO got their ass kicked, but it’s Russia who lost, because she killed so many Ukranians.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jan 23 2024 15:20 utc | 132

Philip Roddis quotes Andrew Korybko today on the meaning of that strike on French “mercenaries” in Ukraine. He calls it a massive blow to France’s prestige. To put that in perspective, it follows a year in which France was pretty comprehensively kicked out of West Africa by the natives. More than a blow to ‘prestige’ that had a substantial economic cost for France’s predatory ruling class.
“…Russia carried out a successful strike against dozens of mercenaries in Kharkov last week that ended up killing at least five dozen of them, the majority of whom were reported to be French. Moscow blamed Paris for their deaths by turning a blind eye to them traveling to Ukraine, which Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu claimed that his country is powerless to prevent because “we are still a democracy”. That sheepish response lent credence to the Kremlin’s claims and left the Elysse with egg on its face.
https://steelcityscribblings.uk/wp/2024/01/23/the-french-mercenaries-slain-in-ukraine/
“What just took place was a powerful blow to French prestige since it represents the largest single loss of its mercenaries in recent memory. It remains unclear exactly how qualified each of the deceased were, such as if they were naïve self-styled “volunteers” or had prior experience with their armed forces, but Russia’s strike nevertheless taught France a lesson that it won’t soon forget. Turning a blind eye to its citizens’ mercenary activity in Ukraine backfired by leading to a major loss of prestige instead of the expected gains.
“Paris thought that the dispatch of its citizens to that country would imbue their own with “glory” after they came back from their “safari” with a bunch of stories to tell about how many Russians they killed. Fighting against Russia isn’t the same as fighting against non-state actors in Africa, however, since the first has the technological prowess to kill these mercenaries before they even know what happened. That’s exactly what occurred after they took Russia’s media-reported “weakness” for granted….”
https://steelcityscribblings.uk/wp/2024/01/23/the-french-mercenaries-slain-in-ukraine/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 15:40 utc | 133

The Living Legend Lavrov Lets Loose:
“Sony Thang
@nxt888
9h
🇷🇺SERGEY LAVROV:
“The Western curators of the Kiev regime, who were behind the anti-constitutional coup in Kiev ten years ago, not only failed to rein in the leaders of the Kiev clique during all this time, but also took advantage of the Minsk Package of Measures to arm Ukraine and to prepare it for war against Russia.
We know this for a fact from the confessions of the individuals who were directly involved in this, who drafted and signed the Minsk agreements and submitted them to the UN Security Council for approval.
The reason for the West’s cynical and criminal behaviour is obvious.
Washington and other capitals have recently been clear that the West is waging a war with Russia, which must be ‘put in its place’ by the hands of the Ukrainians without losing the lives of its own soldiers.
President Biden even called this situation a great investment.
Similar thoughts have been expressed by other US officials and their counterparts in the UK.
In the attempts to get their opponents in Congress to agree to a new aid package for Ukraine, the representatives of the current administration sound even more cynical.
From their speeches we have learned, in particular, that 90 percent of the military budget allocated by the Americans to the Kiev regime remains in the United States and is used to expand the country’s defence sector and to upgrade weapons.
The obsolete equipment is sent to Ukraine.
Most major Ukrainian plants and companies, including lithium facilities, have been sold to the Americans.
Fertile land has been leased to them on an indefinite lease for very little. One of the striking examples is the acquisition by Soros-controlled entities of black earth soils to bury the waste of the Western chemical industry.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken emphasises that continued aid to Ukraine guarantees the creation of new jobs in the United States as if he is talking not about financing a war which has already claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in Ukraine, but a lucrative business project.” “
https://nitter.net/nxt888/status/1749679823545602164#m
Oh and by the way Putin signed documents saying Alaska is Russian along with other lands stolen by the West! ie ‘we can play that game too’.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 16:10 utc | 134

How is public France going to conceal the death of 60 people in the army?
How are they going to prevent people from talking?

Posted by: g wiltek | Jan 23 2024 16:27 utc | 135

@ Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 15:40 utc | 133
Did the sage of seven hill steel city miss the report that a son of a major general and maybe other such scions of French military families got minced?
Which sort of explains the pointless bombing of civilian market on Sunday morning.
They ain’t no ex miltary , they WERE the elites, masquerading as mercenaries. Though they have always been mercenaries going back centuries – many still butt hurt by Napoleon’s defeat and eventual capitulation to the Russians in Paris!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 16:30 utc | 136

The Russian forces in the south of Avdeevka used a several kilometer long tunnel or pipe (unknown to the Ukrainians) to enter the urban district in the sw portion of the city in force. They surprised the Ukrainians, beat back reinforcements and disrupted the rotation process, and cut off the forces in the air defense base to the south which they then captured. Quite an effective operation.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jan 23 2024 16:39 utc | 137

the pessimist @ 137

Russian forces in the south of Avdeevka used a several kilometer long tunnel or pipe

Latest Dima does a very good job laying out that battle, this time worth watching. Saw on TG that the tunnel was 80cm, imaging crawling with equipment through that for 2Km, something like 100 men went through. One day Ruskies will make a movie, hopefully it’ll play in theaters across the west.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 23 2024 17:14 utc | 138

djuric_zlatko on X: The son of a brigadier general of the French army was killed by a strike by the Russian Armed Forces at a point of temporary deployment of foreign mercenaries in Kharkov. His partner (also killed) came from a hereditary military dynasty in France.
According to Mash, the name of the Frenchman eliminated by a high-precision strike is Sabastien Claude Remy Benard. He served in the RICM (formerly the Moroccan Colonial Infantry Regiment) in the Marine Light Armor unit. For reference: it was these groups that equipped the famous AMX-10RC wheeled tanks, which Paris proudly sent to Kiev as military aid. During the process, this scrap metal was deemed unsuitable for mechanized combat.
Benard first arrived in Ukraine in 2022, but did not receive the desired position in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and returned to his homeland. A year later he tried his luck again and joined the 5th Assault Brigade. On July 3, in the Bakhmut area, he participated in the medical evacuation of his wounded fellow countryman Maxim Leconte (a rifleman from the International Legion of Terrestrial Defense), who publicly admitted that the much-hyped Ukrainian counteroffensive turned out to be a bloody failure. On January 16, he was killed by a Russian missile strike.
His partner is Alexis Drion. He is the son of Frédéric Drion, who became a brigadier general in the French army in 2001. Alex joined the Ukrainian Armed Forces no later than last year. He served in the 2nd Battalion of the International Legion. Also was killed on January 16th.
The remaining 60 killed and about 20 wounded mercenaries are recognized activists of Nazi groups in France and other EU countries. Each of them served in the army and even belonged to a battalion of alpine hunters. Many were fired for inappropriate behavior, after which they left for Ukraine. In total, more than a hundred mercenaries from France died during the fighting in the SMO zone

https://t.me/vicktop55/20515

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 23 2024 17:20 utc | 139

“The majority of adds on youtube now seem to be for Ukraines main export. The blurb for one such ‘sponsored video’.
Discover Slavic Women Looking for Love
Connect with Ukrainian Singles Today and Start Your Romantic Journey Join Our Dating Site.”
I have always been amazed that what I perceived to be Ukraine’s most crucial export- porn and trafficked women, never gets mentioned.
Except maybe by Hunter Biden?

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 23 2024 17:23 utc | 140

Biden postponed the State of the Union Address until March 7. This is to give the neocons an extra month to end the Ukraine war. He’ll declare “victory” for “stopping Putin from conquering Ukraine” and then move on. Most people will forget there was a Ukraine war by 2 weeks later. The Ukraine War is a big problem for the Dems, and they need it well shutdown before the election.
They’re probably also pulling strings to get Biden a Nobel Peace Prize for ending the Ukraine War.

Posted by: JackG | Jan 23 2024 17:27 utc | 141

It seems to me that the subject of war between Russia and US is no longer a matter of “if” – Biden has in fact started war with Russia.
Not sure if he is aware.
The question is now: How will Russia respond?

Posted by: jared | Jan 23 2024 17:30 utc | 142

@ JackG | Jan 23 2024 17:27 utc | 141
This most likely has more to do with domestic politics, especially seeing that Super Tuesday in the primary process occurs two days before on 5. March. The DNC and Biden’s other backers probably would not want unchurned sour news from Ukraine or the Middle East or a poor State of the Union performance to influence the bleaters – I mean voters.

Posted by: kvp | Jan 23 2024 18:02 utc | 143

Posted by: JackG | Jan 23 2024 17:27 utc | 141
Biden can’t declare the war to be ended unless they make some sort of agreement with Russia (which with 90% certainty will not occur within next 3 months).
Of course he can say the war has ended without making an agreement, which will effectively probably mean that Ukraine will be split into two or more parts, the larger portion which will effectively become a Russian protege.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 18:06 utc | 144

How is public France going to conceal the death of 60 people in the army?
How are they going to prevent people from talking?
Posted by: g wiltek | Jan 23 2024 16:27 utc | 135
Very easy: all medias are under control, and Russia Today and Sputniknews are banned.
True, those sites are available through a VPN, but only pro-Russian people will access them, when the great majority of the population only looks, listens or reads the lying medias.
The given information is: Russia is lying. And most people believe it.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 23 2024 18:41 utc | 145

Apparently the French were hit in Kharkov again. French defense ministry officials as well as more mercenaries were struck in Kharkov, as they were receiving back unidentified French mercenary bodies.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1749827191737602070

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 18:47 utc | 146

Please no. This platform is low tech with a purpose. Otherwise we will be tracked and identified. No anonymous posting anymore.
Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 7:12 utc | 93
Every post is filled with snowflakes demanding a safe space, so that they don’t have to scroll past posters they don’t like.
it’s like being on a college campus, with the Woke demanding that no dissident voices be heard.
But the demands that B actually change to a format that discourages people from commenting?
That sounds familiar. I heard that a lot from the Davos crowd. It was one of their main themes. And I hear it from the likes of Obama and Nikki Haley.
So who are the actual trolls? Those who post criticisms of Russian policy, or those who call for censorship and banning of dissenting voices?

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 23 2024 19:02 utc | 147

Marianna Vyshemirskaya speaks of her experience when she was used by the ukronazi propaganda as a pregnant woman in Mariupol. She will vote for Putin.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/4575

Posted by: Naive | Jan 23 2024 19:11 utc | 148

Promo video for defender 24, the largest Nato exercise since end of cold war. Exercise in which article 5 has been triggered.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1749864943552204823
These exercises will with certainty contain dummy attack runs against Russia. Perhaps one will be the real thing thing but the sure thing is that this is designed specifically as a provocation, to try and provoke Russia into launching a strike.
That coupled to the obvious publicly spoken intention of assorted Euro elites to have a war with Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 19:13 utc | 149

He’s back(?) This snippet of boilerplate drivel could have been made any time, this is Austin’s return to form? Face seems a littler thinner though, what a weird confused, confusing country the USA has become:
US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin, in his first public appearance since being hospitalised, opened a meeting of the Ramstein Group of Kiev’s supporters via video conference.
He called on allies to provide Ukraine with “more life-saving ground-based air defence systems and interdiction assets”.
Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh said the US could not provide its assistance now, but US colonies partners would continue to do so.

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/15532

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 23 2024 19:31 utc | 150

The theft has begun.

Victor vicktop55
@vicktop55
Belgium will transfer €611 million (58.3 billion rubles) to Ukraine from income received from interest on frozen Russian assets.
The information was confirmed by the head of the Belgian Ministry of Defense, Ludivine Dedonder (pictured), Belga News Agency reports.
The total amount of frozen Russian assets in the EU is about €180 billion (17 trillion rubles), most of them are located in Belgium, the agency clarified.

Once this is over, unless the west is a glow in the dark sheet of glass, it will be repaying everything it has stolen.
The recent Russian presidential decree, I assume covers things like the various consulates and so forth that were owned by Russia in the US along with the current currency theft. If it also covers private assets that have been stolen, the list to be repayed will be long.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 19:31 utc | 151

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 23 2024 19:02 utc | 147
Yes, this is the only place on the web that I dare comment. And I remember the days decades ago when this tech was the only way to comment. It was superb, the discussions were super and there were no weak players. You had to do an effort to say something meaningful and that filtered out most of the chaff.
Nowadays there is absolutely no way one can have a multi-part multilateral discussion remotely. Except here.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 19:39 utc | 152

@ unimperator | Jan 23 2024 18:47 utc | 146 with the report of the new strikes on those forces that France say don’t exist…..
Thanks for that. So now are the French going to deny that they are grieving their dead?
Its idiots all the way down.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 23 2024 19:45 utc | 153

The pessimist @ 137
Russian forces in the south of Avdeevka used a several kilometer long tunnel or pipe
Latest Dima does a very good job laying out that battle, this time worth watching. Saw on TG that the tunnel was 80cm, imaging crawling with equipment through that for 2Km, something like 100 men went through. One day Ruskies will make a movie, hopefully it’ll play in theaters across the west.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 23 2024 17:14 utc | 138
Yes, I get sick of Dima’s gossip after awhile then, like now, he redeems himself and puts out great content like the pipeline scheme in Adeevka..
Although he said ‘the Ukrainians knew nothing about the pipeline “- that did seem strange since they have occupied that area for 10 years?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 19:54 utc | 154

@canuck | Jan 23 2024 19:54 utc | 154

Dima’s work ethic overshadows his tendency to fantasize.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 20:00 utc | 155

canuck | Jan 23 2024 19:54 utc | 154
There has been a large ‘turnover’ of staff at Avdeevka so it may have been forgotten. I would assume a pipe from Soviet times. But then again, much of what Dima says has to be taken with a bit of salt. Difficult to separate fact from fantasy.
There was something earlier about Russian forces getting into the northwestern edge of Avdeevka via tunneling so may be something in this report.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:02 utc | 156

by Sam | Jan 23 2024 0:51 utc | 75
Yes, I do agree certainly on some points, sure. But, I also try to explain how I see it.
I mean Strelkov, Gonzo etc. are not smarter than an average eloquent or not poster here at MoA. We all could see that it was a hasty operation at the minimum cost and personnel that SMO was meant to be done with and how it got transformed to a mega-operation now.
Russian army and a society needed a shake up and such ‘filtering’ of events, eventually got it there.
After the embedded NATO troops and Ukrainian Nazis started firing back, killing Russian soldiers and destroying the tanks around Kiev, only then it was clear to RF (Putin, Lavrov and Duma) that a quick Istanbul treaty would buy the time to reshuffle military capacity and introduce another posture. Failing that, and already withdrawn from Kiev, smeared with Bucha-land, still one can give the cudos to RF, on how they balanced all that out, by using proper and aggressive hybrid war on all fronts, slightly upping the ante on the front-lines in a pretty steady curve. Also not just in Ukraine but in Syria and the worldwide.
I just hope that this conflict will make Russian Military more flexible, as indeed it has been a monolith difficult to move, but when it does – it revolutionizes itself.
What I understand, it shed some Cold War personnel, some ‘festina lente’ disrespecting officers, it created the deal between the State and Military that no private army is doing a proper Military job. The State also kept the promise to pour the resources in properly equipping and arming the Military, surely cutting the corners, but at the end getting there.
From the military point Artemovsk/Bakhmut storming was very stupid move, but it helped the State to fulfill the promise given to the Military. Private military is gone and outlawed.
I would disagree that Martyanovs and Johnsons did more damage to RF than an average Strelkov, or Prigo, even Sladkov that was tamed throughout.
I think nowadays RF media posture seems in order and certainly some Westerners reporting, were briefed, over the time, after the Russian media and social journos’ meeting with Putin.
It would be better to have a current military, organized and supplied, starting SMO some 2 years ago. Sure thing.
But from the previous wars, we know that it takes some time for the military to become combat operational, instead of combat ready.
So, as far as the complex situation is, it would be a fair to say that, so far, Russia did pretty good and have learned a lot on all of the levels.
So, dooming makes a bad mood, as it is unfair to many people working in the support of Russia, China, Palestine and justice in general and it is very counterproductive in discussion.
However, in order to win over the evil, I understand that one just has to be a bit more evil. Or, we change to a different formula?

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 23 2024 20:03 utc | 157

Nowadays there is absolutely no way one can have a multi-part multilateral discussion remotely. Except here.
Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 19:39 utc | 152
The only change I would like to see in the comments is for the rare times when b deletes a comment. It would be better if the comment spot was left as a placeholder with the notification that the text was removed for violation of policy. That way the following comments would not be frameshifted with the replies referring to comment numbers that are now off.

Posted by: Mike R | Jan 23 2024 20:09 utc | 158

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 18:47 utc | 146
Taking out ministry of defense officials, that is a cheeky move. The west just doesn’t seem to understand that Russia has escalatory dominance in Ukraine.

Posted by: Mike R | Jan 23 2024 20:15 utc | 159

I’m surprised that Dima hasn’t been deplatformed, but maybe greed wins over fellating the MIC over at Google.
They’re making good money off of advertisements on his channel.
Pretty crazy that a guy in Belarus can do better than CNN, the NY Times, and Faux news in reporting the truth. Sure, he might occasionally wander too much into speculation, but that’s a lot better than lying liars who suck big government dick.
He’s earned his moment and 205k followers.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 23 2024 20:17 utc | 160

whirlX | Jan 23 2024 20:03 utc | 157
You haven’t taken into account the bio and nuke sites that were a primary target in the opening week. All pro Russian maps at that time just painted sections of Ukraine in broad swathes of red which was very deceiving. Ukraine map makers showed narrow lines of advance. I went back to these after the Rus mod briefings on capture bio docs began and all lines of advance headed directly towards bio and nuke sites.
In hindsight it becomes obvious that the US quickly twigged as to the targets of the advance and set up artillery ambushes taking out the leading columns.
There was one bio lab in the center of Kiev but six around its outskirts, some of which Russia would have captured, another to the north that was captured. Zap NPP. Fourty tons of enriched uranium and thirty tons of plutonium according to Gossi. What was it doing there. Ukraine does not make its own fuel rods.
Placing a threat on Kiev tied up a large number of Ukie forces that could have been used to prevent capture of Mariupol and linking of the land bridge. Ukraine opened negotiations on the second day – the 25th I assume and Russia pulled its forces back from Kiev once the basic peace agreement had been signed.
Three purposes to the move on Kiev, none of which was the capture of Kiev. Though Russia of course would have taken it if Ukraine simply capitulated.
Then there is the fact, which Russia has proved in a number of cases that they agree willing to risk lives to end conflict as peacefully as possible.
At no time did Russia have to pull forces from other sectors of it borders to reinforce e the Ukraine grouping. Recall at the time of the pullback from Kherson there was and exercise in the east I think involving 50,000 troops and of course much hardware.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:22 utc | 161

Does anyone else find it odd that there has been no mention by the leaders of the Russian Federation concerning the 100 anniversary of the founder of the Russian Federations death. This blog has also been remarkably silent.
https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/russians-gather-to-mark-100-years-since-lenin-s-death-dc9c9d0e

Posted by: zargo | Jan 23 2024 20:23 utc | 162

Ghost of Zanon | Jan 23 2024 20:17 utc | 160
Dima is ok but often wanders into tin foil hat territory. This showed up strongly on Lira’s round tables where the round table would consist of three or four war commentators. History legends bloke and similar would be consistently factual.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:27 utc | 163

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 18:47 utc | 146
Taking out ministry of defense officials, that is a cheeky move. The west just doesn’t seem to understand that Russia has escalatory dominance in Ukraine.
Posted by: Mike R | Jan 23 2024 20:15 utc | 159

That runs counter to the prevailing opinion here, which states that Russia should not antagonize NATO out of fear of retaliation. So far Russia’s actions have been timid and rather demonstrated it’s NATO which has escalation dominance.
To recall :
– NATO has provided Ukraine long range missiles to attack Russia proper
– NATO specialists have operated systems hitting Russian cities and Russian strategic air bases
– NATO has provided access to all its ISR means so that Ukraine can strike Crimea
An equivalent would be Russian specialists operating in Belarus to hit Polish or German bases. That would be relatively easy to do, and no less deniable than what the West is currently doing with Ukraine. A minimum would be to waste the Rzezow base, which has been an important hub. That would be escalation.
But the fact Russia has gone out of its way to avoid giving NATO a casus belli is clear proof they fear the reaction.

Posted by: Micron | Jan 23 2024 20:30 utc | 164

I think the Biden administration is nauseous over the idea that the United Nations International Court of Justice might decide it’s worth the time to investigate if Israel has created genocidal conditions in Palestine, at the same time its proxy army in Ukraine is getting obliterated by Russian led forces, and while the Houthi thumb their nose at American might, and openly hamper shipping in protest of Israel’s genocide.
Biden does not want to deliver applause lines at a State of the Union Address about Israel that only all the Republicans will cheer for*, nor does he want to put purple state Democrats in the position of having to cheer on the war in Ukraine, not while Zelenskyy is getting subsidized so heavily with tax payer funds, yet seemed to be losing his war.
Team Biden is probably hoping for a deal to be made on aid to Ukraine, and border security, so that he can tout bipartisanship while ignoring Palestine. Ideally he’ll want the conflict in Ukraine to be mostly frozen as the AFU sits in fortified positions, and Netanyahu is made to understand that the IDF has to chill out in the week prior to his speech, so his administration can have its compliant media lie that a peaceful solution is getting closer.
*If notable Black members of Congress are seen sitting on their hands while Biden praises Israel, and Republicans cheer, it could be disastrous for Biden’s hopes to get out the Black vote in a yooge way. Ditto that if Biden doesn’t have a deal to close the border, yet still has to talk about the situation there. Here in America the deluge of illegal migrants has strained the resources of cities where lots of Black voters live, alongside other displeased Democrats as well.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 23 2024 20:34 utc | 165

WMG | Jan 23 2024 12:29 utc | 118
*** NATO is going to hold the largest military exercise EVER ??? Is this meant to hide/to postpone the confroantation with the fact that NATO has lost/is losing the war in Ukraine ???***
More likely just the cover for a massive LGBT++whatever orgy at taxpayers’ expense.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 20:41 utc | 166

“My friend Misha in Kiev informs me that it is still easy to bribe your way out of conscription, as long as you still have money. The moment you don’t have it, though, you’re done.
Also he says that most people have totally emotionally disconnected from the war. They don’t give a damn how it goes, just as long as it stops. They’ll happily settle for Russian rule, what they want is an end to the killing.
[To be clear, this is someone I know in real life who’s stayed with me in my house more than once. He told me back in early February 2014 that the Maidan “protests” would break up the country. Over the years he told me about the nazification of Ukrainian society, unlike the delusional crap of people like the Faker who insisted Ukrainians would rise up against the nazi regime the moment Russia arrived at the door. He’s been very accurate so far.
In his view, by the way, both Ukranazistan and Russia have already lost because of the deaths, destruction and hatred caused by the fighting.]
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 113″
I believe you. However, this raises the question of what is anyone going to do about it? As long as the secret police in Ukraine will shoot when ordered to do so, Zelenskii has nothing to fear from the populace.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 23 2024 20:46 utc | 167

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:02 utc | 156
The tunnel is in the southern part of Avdieievka.
https://t.me/russosphere/43761
The tunnel is the red line on the maps.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 23 2024 20:48 utc | 168

“How is public France going to conceal the death of 60 people in the army?
How are they going to prevent people from talking?
Posted by: g wiltek | Jan 23 2024 16:27 utc | 135”
simple – they don’t care. Since people of influence and authority weren’t hurt, it doesn’t matter how many expendables died.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 23 2024 20:49 utc | 169

Naive | Jan 23 2024 20:48 utc | 168
I realize this is about a tunnel in the south. In the northeast sometime back, Russia took something there – coke plant?- via a tunnel according to info at the time.
Thanks for the link. I assume most pipelines running east west in the area of the now nine year old frontline would have been shut down long ago. If Dima is correct then its a simple matter of breaking into the pipe in Russian lines and breaking out of it behind Ukr lines. Though in practice, breaking out without being spotted would be the hard part as the breakout point would most likely be where the pipeline is on the surface.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:57 utc | 170

But the fact Russia has gone out of its way to avoid giving NATO a casus belli is clear proof they fear the reaction.
Posted by: Micron | Jan 23 2024 20:30 utc | 164
no. they refuse to give nato a casus belli not out of “fear”, but because everyone knows that nato wants said casus belli.
so the russians just ignore the bait. must be frustrating for you guys, eh?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jan 23 2024 20:59 utc | 171

zorge | Jan 23 2024 12:46 utc | 119
*** Poland is an immense reservoir of such would be soldiers.***
Disposable NATO cannon-fodder.
Cannot understand why the Poles don’t realise that nowadays Russia — not the US controlled and ever more dictatorially wokist/green-cult EU — is its only potential friend with sufficient power to resist social and economic wrecking by the US-empire of lies and exploitation.
Perhaps they will belatedly realise that when attacked by the Galician Ukronazis.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 21:10 utc | 172

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jan 23 2024 20:59 utc | 171
Quite right, the cowards are the western supporters of the ukronazis, not the Russians.
They prove it day after day.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 23 2024 21:18 utc | 173

@164
I think it’s much simpler. RF didn’t go after NATO provocation. Simply keep bleeding afu and NATO and they will reach their target, get part of Ukraine and let the rest in economic and demographic misery.

Posted by: Mario | Jan 23 2024 21:22 utc | 174

Posted by: Micron | Jan 23 2024 20:30 utc | 164
US military policy has always been reckless and Russia understands that well. That is why US puppet NATO engages in these provocative actions, thinking they will intimidate Russia. Russia is playing the long game, and understands that it has the upper hand, so it’s not about to jump several steps up the escalatory ladder just because the West does stupid things. In this case, 1) Russia hit a hotel with French fighters 2) Ukraine (with NATO backing) shelled a marketplace in Donetsk city 3) Russia hit back with another missile strike, this time taking out French defense officials. It would seem that the French arseholes have to wonder at this point, what happens next if Macaroon greenlights another strike against Russia/Donbass/Crimea. The West keeps taking head shots, most of which miss, while Russia delivers body blows, which are now taking their toll. Russia is well aware that the West is delusional and erratic, and wants to avoid tapping too deep into the crazy. The West has to be brought to the point where it is bruised, battered and too exhausted to keep the fight going.

Posted by: Mike R | Jan 23 2024 21:33 utc | 175

@169 : Absolutely correct! Remember, Medvedev was right when he recently qualified the frenchies as connards! 85% of the french population are morons, They are just happy with McDo, Netflix, an unpaid Tesla or a pick-up! Remember 80 years ago, there were 15% resistants either Communist and/or Gaullist, the others were supporting Petain and the Boches. They are like the ostriches, burying their head in the sand! I’m not proud to be french!

Posted by: Berenkopf | Jan 23 2024 21:36 utc | 176

by Mike R | Jan 23 2024 20:15 utc | 159
Russia just does stuff and is not talking about it,
That is how it should be. It just waits for NATO to enforce some fake preamble to the Article 5. on personnel loses that triggers some whatever. Nobody cares. If NATO really uses out-of-Ukraine assets to attack Russia in Crimea or otherwise, I do not believe that Russia will knee-jerk on that, but it will send accumulated massive answer when and where appropriate.
Russia creating the buffer, not far from Kharkov. Just does the stuff.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 23 2024 21:41 utc | 177

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 113
This is right. It’s going to be awful. It won’t end at the end. The average Azov Nazi the not dead ones will still be supplied with and be able to send a drone into Russia.
Also the sale of Alaska included conditions that have not been met.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 23 2024 21:44 utc | 178

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 7:12 utc | 93
«Please no. This platform is low tech with a purpose. Otherwise we will be tracked and identified. No anonymous posting anymore.»
It is *psudonymous* posting, the major security services most likely track and identify every pseudonym here, unless exceptionally skilled techniques are used (VPNs like Tor and others are probably not sufficient without great precautions like “burner PCs” or “burner cellphones”). Even more generally:
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1186271838386774018
NN Taleb, 2020: “every financial transaction done on Planet Earth since 2005 is traceable (the aftermath of Sep 11). Even if one uses prête-noms. Even if one uses cryptocurrencies, art work, etc. You cannot hide anything anymore.”
“Live unnoticed” “The nail that stands out will be hammered”

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 23 2024 21:56 utc | 179

Donbass coal miners, who make up part of the DPR militia, now part of the Russian forces, have dug two other tunnels recently, as I recall, in order to bypass parts of Kiev regime forces embedded on their land in Adeevka.
I may be assuming a lot here, but I assume that they dug another one, not that they used some super duper secret tunnel that the Nazis hadn’t discovered in the last 10 years.
And they went for a special elite forces, bypassing other troops. I may be assuming a lot here also, but I’m guessing that kidnapped conscripts were put in front of the “elite” (Banderist) troops, in order to protect their sorry asses.
Go coal miners!

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 23 2024 21:57 utc | 180

Posted by: Micron | Jan 23 2024 20:30 utc | 164
It’s so obvious that the Russian leadership fear an overreaction by the west and they are wise to do so. Imagine they flatten Kyiv as the west would have done what do you think would happen? My guess is they would all pile in on Russia and then it’s nuclear war. It’s unfortunate that soldiers are dying for what seems like a small sliver of land but Russia doesn’t want it all. They didn’t really want the Donbass. They wanted peace. But that became an impossibility. The USUK don’t. One has to take the psychosis of the other side into consideration.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 23 2024 21:58 utc | 181

wagelaborer | Jan 23 2024 21:57 utc | 180
In the first part of the SMO until the original Ukr/Nato army was destroyed, each Rus MoD briefing contained many instances of headquarters being hit. Second Nato army, all frontline radio traffic was in foreign languages. In the Kharkov sector it was English, in the center on the north south line it was Polish. I did not here of any particular language used in the southern sectors other than they were foreign. This indicates virtually all frontline officers and NCO’s had been destroyed. Any officers now will be foreign or fillings from the ranks of conscripts that due to the time it takes will not have the experience of NCO’s nor the military education of officers. That is amongst the Ukies, the rest being foreign.
With Russian instigated turnover of Ukie staff, it is possible a pipeline has been overlooked.
And where there is tunneling to be done, your thought on the coal miners has much merit. Cornish coalminers were used at Messines ridge and no doubt miners used for tunneling under frontlines would have occurred a number of times in various wars.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 22:14 utc | 182

The multi-polar world … each for himself.
@ Posted by: rk | Jan 23 2024 9:12 utc | 101
I understand your frustration and I have no quick reply. However I have witnessed over the years the West under the strong leadership of Washington applying sanctions and pressure on most continental Asian countries. Those countries have, over a generation, developed strong links. That was done piece by piece without fanfare. There is a very interesting series on Chinese television called yuanfangdejia; a television team traveled all around China and then in all countries where China has projects in Africa, Kazakhstan, Belarus and so on. Those projects are roads, railways, factories.
Flour and water make a weak mass just after they are mixed together. The mass becomes strong if you pound it repeatedly. The US pounded on Asia and Asia becane strong as a result. People from the West see Asian countries as an amorphous mass, but a geheration of pounding has transformed Asia; the people are educated, creagive and very efficient. I lived close to five months in a college in China among very enthusiastic students while I studied the language with young people from Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan,Thailand, Korea and Jaoan. No one from North-America or Europe there.
If I were Washington or Israel I would be polite with my Palestinian and Yemeni neighbours.

Posted by: Richard L | Jan 23 2024 22:27 utc | 183

I have criticized Putin for not responding to NATO crossing of Russian red lines throughout this conflict. However, after the Belgorod cluster munitions attack and the possibly downing of the A-50 the gloves seem to have come off. Ukraine has become a dangerous place now for western military “advisors/mercenaries”.
The attack on the French in Ukraine was a response Putin and the Russian leadership was a response to a red line being crossed. There was an article that was being referenced that the CIA had established ground rules with Putin and his leadership which Putin in my opinion had been following to his own detriment and that of Russia, the Belgorod cluster munitions attack seems to have violated said agreement as perhaps it indeed was a NATO launched operation from within Ukraine and not necessarily a Ukraine military attack which happens from time to time depending on the frustration levels of the Ukrainian military. It’s almost clear to see how the Western military assets felt very safe under the agreement as they were clearly massing in hotels and clustering which to my uninformed military mind would be a no non, unless you knew you were not in danger of being hit.
I think we are about to see a new phase of the conflict were the Russian military is going to get more agressive in taking out Western military assets including on the ground personel, western command centers in Ukraine, ISR( in Ukraine), air defence, etc.

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 23 2024 22:40 utc | 184

“You cannot hide anything anymore”
Posted by: Blissex | Jan 23 2024 21:56 utc | 179
This is a new variation on the usual craven submission to Big Brother. “I have nothing to hide, so I don’t care if they spy on me.”
What they want is an end to anonymity online. At this point, Big Brother may know, but his minions do not.
They want a government-issued ID to be required for people to access the internet, and for all comments online to be made with your official name, not a pseudonym.
That way, not only Big Brother, but your boss, your neighbors, the local Antifa group….can all use your opinions to fire, shun, or attack you. You would have to censor yourself or live in fear.
Maybe you don’t think that’s a big step forward towards total submission to the Empire, but I do.
And I don’t want to live like this.
“Live unnoticed” “The nail that stands out will be hammered” may be good advice when they roll out the increased monitoring, but it is no way to live, and it goes against human rights.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 23 2024 22:49 utc | 185

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 22:14 utc | 182
Do not forget Australian miners. There is a reason Australian troops are nicknamed “diggers.” It was General Monash’s idea I think. He was a very experienced civil engineer.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 23 2024 23:42 utc | 186

Apparently the EU decided against the seizure of RF central bank assets, it’s a losing proposition in every way. Another bluff called by the RF. Russians are now patrolling the skies over Syria, they just upped the ante against the USA, let’s see if Netanyahu is crazier than the Europeans and goes to war with Russia to further USA plans. It’s ok to spend the cookie jar money but never bet the farm.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 23 2024 23:45 utc | 187

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Not Russia fears!
Only chessmaster fears the bad publicity in his western partners countries.
Putin is a liberal who always tried to get into the exclusive liberal LGBT club of his western partners

Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 24 2024 0:15 utc | 188

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 15:40 utc | 133
Did you catch the latest news via Dima that after the initial attacks killing some 60 French fighters based in Kharkov (be they mercs or Foreign Legion), that France sent X number of *Military Officers* to sign for and receive the bodies but RF struck again and killed those Officers. Lol. Talk about a message of “Keep Out”.

Posted by: Jacko.Blanchard | Jan 24 2024 0:27 utc | 189

by Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 20:22 utc | 161
Yes, those are some of the details of a really complex operation.It was called a military-technical measures, not for nothing.
Probably much of the other stuff was grabbed and found, that we do not know of. Certainly, lots of data collection has been done and over the years.
Also
Soviets invaded and held Afghanistan with about 140k troops.
The almost the same amount RF used to liberate the territory the size of Great Britain, in just 62 days.
Was that a laboratory demolition campaign only going so deep and than retreating? We can only speculate.
I am not convinced on plutonium and about 30 tonnes of it. That would take some time to produce, never the less. But sure thing is that some murky nuclear stuff was going on in the Zap NPP.
Many strange things actually happened so fast, in just two years and to us it seems as some Kiev siege was almost a 10 years ago. Isn’t that strange? A “Dreamtime” should ring a bell to Australians, not?

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 24 2024 0:30 utc | 190

Phew. A normalish thread. Thanks all.
@ Posted by: zargo | Jan 23 2024 20:23 utc | 162
Not me. I have figured out over recent years that there was something askew with the Bolshevik ‘Revolution’. It was obviously externally coordinated – as the ‘Color’ things have been over the decades since. It was wire that Lenin ‘made’ the borderlands into the resurgent Khazaria…and he exterminated the Romanovs! An action that would have seemed unnecessary after their overthrow. Unless ordered by some greater masters.
I won’t be surprised if Kruschev, who did the same , is equally ‘venerated’ and Gorby and Yeltsin at their centenaries.
Weird about Stalin though. He did something similar post war with that borderland. The fact that Yalta was the place the ‘victors’ met to slice Europe – but the genius of stuffing Lenin and putting him on display in a cabinet, before he could totally hand over the whole RF – is in my mind one of the most amazing historical unexplained actions! I hope some explanations come before my demise.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 24 2024 0:45 utc | 191

A “Dreamtime” should ring a bell to Australians, not?
Posted by: whirlX | Jan 24 2024 0:30 utc | 190
Whitemans terminology for saying their oral history is bullshit me thinks.
My impression of those first two weeks was Russian forces were going to go as far and as fast as they could to secure nuclear and know biolabs, each line of advance only stopping when the leading armoured column was destroyed by artillery ambush.
Gossi is head of the UN nuclear watchdog. The enriched uranium and plutonium had to have been delivered there by US/UK/Nato.
Paveway said something about how a reactor can be easily converted to produce other elements required for a modern nuclear weapon and The ZNPP being shut down for maintenance quite often in the years after the US/UK takeover.
Then there is Russia passing a special law that stipulated ZNPP was now a Russian possession and would never go back to Ukraine.
Plenty of pointers towards something fishy going on there there, not to mention the comedians Munich speech about building nukes.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 24 2024 1:01 utc | 192

But the fact Russia has gone out of its way to avoid giving NATO a casus belli is clear proof they fear the reaction.
Posted by: Micron | Jan 23 2024 20:30 utc | 164
And the fact that NATO refuses to put boots on the ground in Ukraine is evidence they fear Russias response.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 24 2024 1:14 utc | 193

by DunGroanin | Jan 24 2024 0:45 utc | 191
Unless ordered by some greater masters.
Why there is a feeling that some Grand-Master is doing stuff about?
All that indeed gets pretty much crazy at one level, rewinding the old tapes and re-watching films.
Yalta is a bit magical on its own. It is oriental-Mideuropean and Victorian at the same time. Many castles and palaces and churches. It has been a favorite spa and sea holidays destination for the whole Soviet Union since the early 1920s. Stalin wanted to hypnotize Brits and Americans, seduce them and offer the best there is in food and drinks. He even managed to let the USA build two military bases in the South East Siberia after the war, but that was abandoned, as soon as they started building those. That deal was tied to a deal to divide the Europe along Stalin;s lines and that was not respected since. The Western Allies traded the whole Thuringia for measly West Berlin. How crazy is that? Yalta has a special energy.
Btw. I was always curious how did they all arrived there? Considering that the Luftwaffe was still pretty much operative.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 24 2024 1:20 utc | 194

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 24 2024 1:01 utc | 192
I have said it before (but a while ago so apologies for repetition) I think it is probable that the Russians were spooked into acting faster than they liked because of fear of a nuclear missile in Ukraine.
In the month leading to the SMO, I believed that Russia would not respond in Ukraine, but would deliver their “technical” response in Syria. I was surprised by the sudden decision to enter Ukraine.
Now it was just a very few days after the Munich conference where Z called for nuclear arms and the attendees from NATO all applauded and said yay!.
So my gut feeling is that they acted very swiftly to stop that event. They were NOT as prepared as they would have liked but the need for urgent action prompted an unusually swift action. They probably had intelligence that there was stuff in Zaporizhia.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 24 2024 1:48 utc | 195

Some videos for today.
Russian Tyulpan heavy self-propelled mortar opens fire on the southern DPR front:
https://rutube.ru/video/2b77c6c198b9f30d25442f045ec6917b/
Russian artillery pounds the enemy near Belogorovka:
https://rutube.ru/video/6857ca07ed4a34111ddc21724f681fea/
Russian self-propelled howitzer pounds enemy position on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/2d3341a986526ffbce504cceeda6bd73/
Russian Su-25s conduct strikes near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/6283f3fc5e5838a21d8ccd117692c635/

Posted by: Nate | Jan 24 2024 1:52 utc | 196

by watcher | Jan 24 2024 1:48 utc | 195
Yes. True. There was some awkward warning from the USA to RF not to use technology that was planted there. It was and still is bizarre:
As CNN, discloses.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 24 2024 2:18 utc | 197

“..I have figured out over recent years that there was something askew with the Bolshevik ‘Revolution’. It was obviously externally coordinated – as the ‘Color’ things have been over the decades since…”
DunGroanin | Jan 24 2024 0:45 utc | 191
Let’s face it by ‘figured it out” you mean that, with the help of all manner of trashy fascist and White Russian propagandists you have cobbled together a theory which you can pass of f in casual conversation as something that you have ‘figured out.’
The Bolzshevik Revolution was not ‘externally co-ordinated’ by the German General Staff, Jewish financiers, the British Secret Service or lizards from outer space.
If you look at the history of Russia it is obvious that it was what it seemed to be- in many respects the fruit of a series of accidents and miscalculations, capitalised on by Lenin and Trotsky an unbeatable combination at the time.
It is difficult enough for us-gathered together in this forum- to work out what is heppening but it is much more difficult when contributers like yourself salt your sensible and valuable thoughts with inventions that, to me, look designed to win the support of the conspiracy theorists who are trolls polluting reasonable discussion.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 24 2024 2:44 utc | 198

It’s so obvious that the Russian leadership fear an overreaction by the west and they are wise to do so. Imagine they flatten Kyiv as the west would have done what do you think would happen? My guess is they would all pile in on Russia and then it’s nuclear war. It’s unfortunate that soldiers are dying for what seems like a small sliver of land but Russia doesn’t want it all. They didn’t really want the Donbass. They wanted peace. But that became an impossibility. The USUK don’t. One has to take the psychosis of the other side into consideration.
Posted by: Inki | Jan 23 2024 21:58 utc | 181

Russia will never flatten Kiev (spell it right, please). They already had to destroy it once in 1943, and it was a much smaller city then. They have no intention of doing it again.
What can and should be flattened is Bankova Street, but even that is off-limits.
More importantly, DC absolutely doesn’t care enough about Kiev to start a nuclear war.
Not just about Kiev – Article 5 is a fiction. Nobody is sacrificing Boston for Poznan or Atlanta for Craiova. They won’t even do it for Berlin or Amsterdam.
Crucially, if they are crazy enough to be itching to press the red button, then they are going to start WWIII anyway, and there is little that can be done to stop it. Then the task is to hit first while being as prepared as possible to first, prevent, second, repel, and third, survive the second strike.
The current behavior of the Kremlin has many parallels with what it did in the 1930s — back then it was also a lot of effort to avoid war, create a common security framework (much of the current rhetoric is straight up lifted from that era), then it switched to trying to persuade Hitler to come to his senses, and we know what happened. Stalin was caught with his pants down. But at least he had strategically prepared for war, he was caught slipping tactically and operationally.
But there were no nukes back then, so who strikes first wasn’t as consequential. It still was monstrously consequential though — the USSR never fully recovered and eventually fell apart.
Now there are nukes, and the Kremlin is again in Leopold the Cat mode.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 24 2024 2:45 utc | 199

The attack on the French in Ukraine was a response Putin and the Russian leadership was a response to a red line being crossed. There was an article that was being referenced that the CIA had established ground rules with Putin and his leadership which Putin in my opinion had been following to his own detriment and that of Russia, the Belgorod cluster munitions attack seems to have violated said agreement as perhaps it indeed was a NATO launched operation from within Ukraine and not necessarily a Ukraine military attack which happens from time to time depending on the frustration levels of the Ukrainian military. It’s almost clear to see how the Western military assets felt very safe under the agreement as they were clearly massing in hotels and clustering which to my uninformed military mind would be a no non, unless you knew you were not in danger of being hit.
I think we are about to see a new phase of the conflict were the Russian military is going to get more agressive in taking out Western military assets including on the ground personel, western command centers in Ukraine, ISR( in Ukraine), air defence, etc.
Posted by: silverdog | Jan 23 2024 22:40 utc | 184

Such an agreement is absurd though.
It automatically places Russian in a subservient position. NATO military can be on the ground in Ukraine and can fight against Russia, but Russia can’t strike it? What kind of an arrangement is that???
Those NATO troops weren’t there just to give advice. The HIMARS, the Cesars, etc., are operated by them. And they killed a lot of Russians. That strike in Makeevka on New Year? How many dead Russians was that?
Worse, they weren’t going just after the Russian military, they were going after civilians almost from the start.
Belgorod was unique because it was so brazen and it was on official Russian territory.
Most people here don’t follow what was happening in the Donbass, Kherson and the Zaporozhye. I try to post the more brutal atrocities, but those posts rarely get any attention. And the Western commentariat ignores these things almost entirely, because they don’t fit with the narrative of the all-powerful Russia that is toying with NATO.
But the reality is that there were dozens of HIMARS strikes with anti-personnel rounds on bus stops, markets, and various other public places in the Donbas, as well as on hospitals, administration buildings, etc., and in Kherson they were firing at the pontoon bridge while civilians were being evacuated after the “difficult decision”.
That didn’t cross any red lines?
If Russia was a serious superpower, any NATO operative on Ukrainian soil should have been smoked the moment he was detected. Not doing so is a major sign of weakness.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 24 2024 2:47 utc | 200