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January 22, 2024

Ukraine Open Thread 2024-025

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Posted by b on January 22, 2024 at 16:05 UTC | Permalink

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This is current typical thinking in the NATO, from Slavyangrad forwarded by Geroman (that tells the time) X:

Ukraine should behave "aggressively" towards Russia and launch as many strikes as possible, including strikes against civilians, if this will lead to a final victory over Moscow. With such a statement on the air of the Ukrainian YouTube channel "Vyshka" was made by Harry Tabach, former chief of staff of the NATO military mission in Moscow.

The retired U.S. Navy captain of the first rank believes that all means are good for defeating the enemy, so Kiev does not need to "shy away" from strikes on civilians. He believes that the more ordinary people die, the faster victory will come. As an example, he cited the destruction of half of the population of the "Third Reich" and the dropping of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Ukrainian army should behave in the same way, because the enemy's aggression can be stopped by even greater aggression.

Yes, definitely invited to try.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 16:19 utc | 1

What is likely to happen to the average American's mindset when Russia wins?

We've had two solid years of wildly inaccurate propaganda filling western minds with garbage. What is the shock/cognitive dissonance going to look like when Russia annexes Odessa and Kharkiv and imposes neutrality on the defeated rump state? When Russia rebuilds a peaceful and prosperous Novorussia?

Will it just be forgotten, like the humiliating retteat from Afghanistan? Or will it have some tangible impact?

Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2

Slavyangrad has a link on how huge the Open Society Soros-linked mafia has become, posted just now around 16:35 UK time.

Budget above $100 million a year. Dozen of offices. Promotion of everything that is wrong, including their own pervert brand of "inclusion".

Please spread the news among your friends, those who still think.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 22 2024 16:37 utc | 3

Yes, definitely invited to try.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 16:19 utc | 1

And who is going to stop them?

Zakaharova will once again express outrage and issue yet another stern warning, which will so, so scare NATO away from ever doing it again (the previous two years of the same didn't, but trust us, this time they will listen)?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 4

Afternoon all,

Just a thought b, can we have the name of the poster at the head of the post so we can choose, quickly, whether to scroll past and find reasoned arguments instead of ploughing through reams of shite.....
There are many here who have asked previously to ban certain commentators, this option seems a simple solution without upsetting anyone`s sensibilities.

Happy Monday everyone, have a small beer on me. Much love from France x

Posted by: extremebuilder | Jan 22 2024 17:12 utc | 5

And who is going to stop them?

Zakaharova will once again express outrage and issue yet another stern warning, which will so, so scare NATO away from ever doing it again (the previous two years of the same didn't, but trust us, this time they will listen)?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 4

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The RF will simply continue the destruction of the Ukr proxy, and whatever mercs & sheep-dipped NATO forces are present. Plus some indirect stuff.

The reason NATO's bloviateing gasbags are woofing so loud, is because they're losing. So they express both true impotent rage and calculated obfuscation, to create an impression of virility & strength.

It's pretty funny you (pretend) to take their s**t seriously. They blew their wad in 2022. The RF was supposed to crack then, it didn't.

There's no backup plan, nor any means to rebuild the strength of withering NATO armies.

That why Britain for example woofs loudest by the way, because the domestic situation in the UK in socioeconomic & political terms is going from stagnation to decay.

The British military of course is ahead of everything else in that regard. The idea it could fight Yemen is a joke, never mind Russia.

No-one actually wants to die for these neo-s**t-lib regimes.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jan 22 2024 17:15 utc | 6

Idiot Zelensky continues to send ukrainians to slaughter in Krynki across the Dnieper.

https://t.me/xoxol_uk/20731
https://t.me/xoxol_uk/20741

Posted by: Psycho | Jan 22 2024 17:16 utc | 7

"We've had two solid years of wildly inaccurate propaganda filling western minds with garbage."

did you mean decades or generations?

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 22 2024 17:25 utc | 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXqNfF4-IlI

Interesting video shows Austin story is not credible. Question is, why are they lying?

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 22 2024 17:25 utc | 9

Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2

Funny, I thought about that too. But the show must go on. A small, unforeseen defeat here, forget about it, we'll take on Iran next. But we're going to do it nuclear right away so that there are no doubts about the final victory - and besides, we had no other choice, we had to protect our extremely precious Israel.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 22 2024 17:41 utc | 10

@ Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 16:19 utc | 1

Add some geo-political context here. Washington needs to "fix" Russia along the NATO-Ukraine frontier znd away from the looming Middle-East war front. That is the job the US likely asks the European leaders and NATO to work on.

Posted by: Richaard L | Jan 22 2024 17:51 utc | 11

by shаdοwbanned | Jan 22 2024 16:51 utc | 4

You should follow stuff more around Putin and his remarks from various holiday parties. Probably smart move to deliberately place it about, but you missed the message.
Putin told his military to do stuff and he doesn't need victory advertisements and victorious reports, just things done.

Why do you always imply that Russians are stupid, over-polite, inert, afraid and such? That is a banner flying of a "defeatist 85" Strelkov & Prigo Style, aka haste and many irrational claims and deeds done.

Yesterday Zakharova was bordering to being a vulgar to Germans in general, mainly on Gaza, but the West got burned pretty much too.
Russians will soon stop talking. That it becomes dangerous.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 17:52 utc | 12

fwiw I have the script thing that lets me block users (only show their handles with a line through them), and have blocked some people (for posting BS), and then I open this thread and 3 of the first 4 the text is not showing. A new record, sort of.

Their feeds told them a MoA thread had dropped. Just like my feed did. since they are blocked I have not read those comments. so of course I can't be sure what they wrote. There seems to be two possiblities. Either they are trolls getting desperate who want their crap at the top or they are posting to say they are sorry they have been wrong the whole time and want everyone to know :)

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Jan 22 2024 18:08 utc | 13

by JustSomeOldGuy | Jan 22 2024 18:08 utc | 13

Hack, but it is just a discussion board, not a fairy tale filter on a pink polarized glasses.

AI summarizer script would be better.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 18:17 utc | 14

Sorry, my last comment about blocking commenters was too harsh. I should have stopped after the 1st paragraph and just linked to the script (which needs also a extension like Tampermonkey)
https://pastebin.com/bUs3tq95
I am fine if anyone blocks me.

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Jan 22 2024 18:18 utc | 15

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 17:52 utc | 12

When someone is paid to post stupidities as an agent provocateur, there is no reason for him to stop.

CQFD.

Posted by: Naive | Jan 22 2024 18:19 utc | 16

did you mean decades or generations?

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 22 2024 17:25 utc | 8

No argument there. I meant specifically since 2022, referringjust to the war. But, more broadly, Russia became the bad guy in 2014, and even more so in the 2016 election, and then in shrill, way over the top terms in 2022.

Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 18:20 utc | 17

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Summary for 22 Jan 2024 by 20:15⚡️

🔹In #Kherson Direction, our forces note a decrease in the intensity of the AFU's strikes. Mortars and tanks have been striking from the right bank for the past few days. Perhaps this is a sign of their shell starvation. Dense fire is maintained only in #Krynki from the direction of #Tyaginka. Taking advantage of the warming weather, the AFU tried to rotate and supply the springboard in #Krynki. They were met with increased fire of our army from all types of weapons and suffered losses, at least 80 people and a lot of different equipment.

🔹In #Zaporozhye Direction, the parity of forces remains unchanged. Our side is actively changing the composition of the military on the frontline, guys are sent to rest. Hopefully, with the arrival of new forces our offensive will become more active.

🔹In #SouthDonetsk Direction, in the #Maryinka sector, our forces advanced a few hundred metres further in #Georgiyevka from the side of the temple. At #Novomikhaylovka our troops took two more heights.

🔹In #Donetsk Direction, in the south of #Avdeyevka, after taking control of the Tsarskaya Okhota fortified area, our forces are moving southwest along Sobornaya Street. The street is long and in the northwest it runs into St. Nicholas Church and Avdeyevka Station. Further advance will allow us to occupy the Khimik neighbourhood. And this is the key to the AFU positions in the area of #Severnoye and #Tonenkoye. It should be understood that the AFU's fortifications are located in a dense urban area, with buried concrete fortifications. On the northern flank, heavy fighting is ongoing in the grey zone of #Stepovoye, where the AFU are holding back our breakthrough to #Berdychi.

🔹In #Bakhmut Direction, in #Bogdanovka, the AFU control the western third of the village. Our army's immediate task is to drive the enemy out of the forest belt parallel to #Bogdanovka, from where the AFU are shelling our forces in the centre of the village. At the same time, the enemy retains the potential for counterattacks. The AFU are taking advantage of the fact that our forces do not have full control over the heights yet and are pulling up their forces. Between #Kleshcheyevka and #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye), there is a fierce battle for the prospect of fire control over #Ivanovskoye.

🔹In #Svatovo Direction, from the #Seversk sector, Ukrainian sources report that our forces are using tunnels, suddenly appearing at AFU positions from underground. We have heard from our own that the AFU near #Seversk is also using deepening tactics to store fuel tanks in order to minimise losses in the event of our strikes. In the #Liman sector, our aviation and artillery are working powerfully on AFU positions in the #Kremennaya forests. In the #Kupyansk sector, our forces expanded their zone of control north of the N-26 motorway. They managed to get closer to #Kislovka and #Kotlyarovka. These actions support the recent advance of our army near #Krakhmalnoye, where the AFU is now trying to counterattack.

💥Our forces struck the industrial zone in #Kramatorsk. The AFU used it to store military equipment. An attack on the air defence complexes in #Odessa is also expected, the results are still unknown.


https://t.me/sitreports/21607

Posted by: Down South | Jan 22 2024 18:22 utc | 18

the great slide.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 22 2024 18:23 utc | 19

Question is, why are they lying?
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 22 2024 17:25 utc | 9

They are always lying – there is no reason why they should tell the truth.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 22 2024 18:23 utc | 20

by Naive | Jan 22 2024 18:19 utc | 16

I have 1/8th of a Russian patience gene, and still not too convinced that he is paid. Who will do that?

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 18:25 utc | 21

Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2

The same thing as always happens - the newest edition of Kardashians will be released which will consume all the attention within a week.

Scott Ritter has said it a gazillion times - no one in the US cares about Ukraine any more than the CNN tells them to care about it. And CNN cares about Ukraine only to the point it's useful to the MIC complex, which it soon won't be.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 18:34 utc | 22

Eighthman @ 9

I forgot all about Austin, already down the memory hole, as intended. Good vid.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 22 2024 18:45 utc | 23

Scott Ritter has said it a gazillion times - no one in the US cares about Ukraine any more than the CNN tells them to care about it. And CNN cares about Ukraine only to the point it's useful to the MIC complex, which it soon won't be.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024

perhaps literally. but those Americans who know how much they are out of pocket for this distant adventure, while living through the squalor of what the domestic agenda has produced may not be indifferent.
Particularly when the bills come due.
That is a shallow point to make, equates uninformed taxpaying voters with a consolidated medias inherent fictions and mendacity.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 22 2024 18:47 utc | 24

Lavrov speaks:

https://reseauinternational.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/La-France-implore-la-Russie-de-cooperer-en-Afrique-Lavrov-d.mp4

Unlimited arrogance from the western countries. And at the same time no self-esteem and stupidity. They are here humiliated,

Posted by: Naive | Jan 22 2024 18:53 utc | 25

Eighthmann,

One thing I don't get about the "Austin is dead" coverup theory is why would they cover it up, if he were killed in Kiev?

You would think that would be a useful "casus belli" for the DC war machine to whip up support for more Ukraine aid, which looks to be seriously in jeopardy, having been stalled for months.

Maybe I am missing something, but for the never let a crisis go to waste crowd, Austin's death could have been an opportunity, not something to cover up.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

What is likely to happen to the average American's mindset when Russia wins?

. . .
Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2

What is likely to happen? Absolutely nothing. First of all, the US media will not tell the public that Russia has won, and if they are not told, it never happened. Anything can be spun to look like something it isn't. Second, the US public (speaking in broad generalities here) will only be outraged over what happens in other countries if they are told to be outraged by the propaganda machine. Otherwise, they just don't give a fig. The only thing that will generate grass roots outrage in the American public is if all the goodies they have been used to having are no longer in reach. When they can't buy a loaded pickup truck with all the bells and whistles or afford to put gas in it, then you will see real outrage.

Posted by: Mike R | Jan 22 2024 18:56 utc | 27

by Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

Spot on. It is a interesting incident obfuscated completely by both sides.
The only hidden option there was that Russia indeed did the hit on a HVT and instead of bragging about it sends through a backstage channel a message to the USA - 'This. And what are you going to to about it?'
Austin, at the end of a ballad, dies of complications with a prostate cancer. No man, no problem.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 19:08 utc | 28

Maybe I am missing something, but for the never let a crisis go to waste crowd, Austin's death could have been an opportunity, not something to cover up. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

US has a tendency to hide things that aren't to its favor. Even if someone hit the US congress with a missile, they would simply say a Comet hit it, if they don't think their MIC could benefit from that particular war.

Since they aren't prepared to fight Russia, they will hide anything. But if they think they are prepared to fight Russia, they would simply cook up a narrative of an attack in USA, it doesn't really need to even happen.

See how they are covering up all the strikes on US bases in Iraq and Syria? US knows if they grab the bait, Iran will obliterate all their bases including aircraft on the tarmac, which is why they simply say nothing is happening in Iraq or Syria.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 19:30 utc | 29

@29

For a similar reason Nato article 5 doesn't really work against Russia and anyone bold enough to 'test it out' will probably regret it pretty soon.

It's like a fire insurance. If the fire is small enough, the insurance company might say OK, here's your insurance money. If the fire is huge, and results massive, potentially bankrupting liabilities for the Company, they will dig up one of the 1000 different clauses and say, 'hey guy's, seems you missed this prerequisite requirement in maintaining your house fire safety, sorry, we can't cover ya, see ya'.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 19:35 utc | 30

Ghost of Zanon @ 26

The SecDef is a civilian, his travels and meetings, each and everyone is documented, he's accountable to congress and the public, he can't just go off on secret missions, whatever he discusses can be secret but not his whereabouts. If Austin really was secretly in Ukraine it would be impossible for Biden not to know it and he would have sent him, and it would be impeachable.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 22 2024 19:37 utc | 31

Big Israel Border Bulletin, Jan 22
Volodymyr Zelensk* instructed to draw up an action plan to preserve the national identity of Ukrainians in Russia

[...]
The document states that for centuries, Russia has systematically destroyed national identity, oppressed Ukrainians, and violated their rights and freedoms, in particular in the lands historically inhabited by them in Kuban, Starodubshchyna, Northern and Eastern Slobozhanshchyna within the modern Krasnodar Krai, Belgorod, Bryansk, Voronezh, Kursk, and Rostov regions of the Russian Federation. At the same time, Russia must comply with its international obligations to ensure that Ukrainians < wipes tears > living in its territories, including those historically inhabited by ethnic Ukrainians, have the right to education in the Ukrainian language and its free use, civil, social, cultural and religious rights, access to Ukrainian-language media, and the right of peaceful assembly.

"The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine with the involvement of international experts, representatives of the Ukrainian World Congress, scholars, and the public, shall elaborate and submit to the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine an action plan to preserve the national identity of Ukrainians living in the Russian Federation, including the lands historically inhabited by them (Kuban, Starodubshchyna, Northern and Eastern Slobozhanshchyna within the modern Krasnodar Krai, Belgorod, Bryansk, Voronezh, Kursk, and Rostov regions of the Russian Federation)," the decree states.

1967 borders "control over the entire territory west of the Jordan River"
The action plan shall envisage, inter alia, the collection and examination of evidence and testimonies about crimes committed against Ukrainians who live (lived) in the territories of Russia historically inhabited by ethnic Ukrainians, about the policy of forced Russification, political repression and deportation of Ukrainians, the restoration and preservation of historical memory, including the establishment of a center for these issues.
1991 border
In addition, cooperation between Ukrainians and the peoples enslaved by Russia shall be developed. Together with the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, the preparation and dissemination of materials on the more than thousand-year history of Ukrainian statehood, the historical ties of the lands inhabited by ethnic Ukrainians with Ukrainian national state formations in different historical periods shall be ensured.
[...]
President of Ukraine initiates a key bill that will enable the introduction of multiple citizenship
[...]
"Today I am submitting to the Verkhovna Rada a key draft law that will allow the adoption of comprehensive legislative amendments and the introduction of multiple citizenship. And it will allow all ethnic Ukrainians and their descendants from around the world to have our citizenship. Of course, except for citizens of the aggressor country," Volodymyr Zelensk* noted.
The Russian language was deprived of its rights indefinitely (09.12.23), COE.int Convention for the Protection of National Minorities (01.02.98)
[...]
As the President emphasized, since the beginning of Russia's full-scale aggression against Ukraine, the multimillion-strong diaspora of Ukrainians around the world has stood up for the interests of our country and has been helping us despite being hundreds and thousands of kilometers away from their LOL! homeland.
[...]
I warned y'all about shipping European war 'fugees with rotten beefs to the "New World." It's a bad habit.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 22 2024 19:38 utc | 32

reply to 29

I think you're right. The real military is power doesn't want war and neither does the MIC. Using weapons risks exposure and defeat. A nice retirement is the better option. If anyone doubts this, I think they could have given F-16's and Abrams tanks to Ukraine a long time ago and encouraged their use. Instead, they ordered their vassals in the EU to provide weapons leading to Euro-embarassment.

All this said, there is always the chance that a General Jack E. Ripper exists somewhere and decides to launch a missile or two on his own and start WWIII. You never know.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 22 2024 19:42 utc | 33

«He believes that the more ordinary people die, the faster victory will come. As an example, he cited the destruction of half of the population of the "Third Reich" and the dropping of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Ukrainian army should behave in the same way, because the enemy's aggression can be stopped by even greater aggression.»

Declaration by Churchill in a speech on 14 july 1941:

“if tonight the people of London were asked to cast their vote whether a convention should be entered into to stop the bombing of all cities, the overwhelming majority would cry, ‘No, we will mete out to the Germans the measure, and more than the measure, that they have meted out to us.’”

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 22 2024 19:46 utc | 34

Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2

The same thing as always happens - the newest edition of Kardashians will be released which will consume all the attention within a week.

Scott Ritter has said it a gazillion times - no one in the US cares about Ukraine any more than the CNN tells them to care about it. And CNN cares about Ukraine only to the point it's useful to the MIC complex, which it soon won't be.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 18:34 utc | 22

But CNN has less than 600k viewers during prime time; Joe Rogan gets over 10MM per episode; Tucker Carlson as an independent get 3.5 MM.

The public is waking up such that MSM viewership is, finally, on a steep decline.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 19:48 utc | 35

🤷‍♂️🇺🇸❓🇺🇦☠️An official representative of the State Department told RIA Novosti that he was not familiar with the situation surrounding the death of the American Gonzalo Lira, and suggested “redirecting the question to Kiev”.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/99244

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 22 2024 20:01 utc | 36

Declaration by Churchill in a speech on 14 july 1941:

“if tonight the people of London were asked to cast their vote whether a convention should be entered into to stop the bombing of all cities, the overwhelming majority would cry, ‘No, we will mete out to the Germans the measure, and more than the measure, that they have meted out to us.’”

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 22 2024 19:46 utc | 34

I imagine that you're aware that the British initiated the bombing of cities in WWII. It wasn't part of the German war plan, they had not developed any kind of strategic bombing capability, and their response to the British was very weak by comparison to the USUK air campaign against German cities.

This is not to claim the moral high-ground for the Germans, they were well prepared to use dive-bombers against Polish towns and cities. I'm just saying, Churchill is just being his usual lying sack of shit.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 20:10 utc | 37

no one in the US cares about Ukraine
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 18:34 utc | 22

Except US congress critters
US Congressional Ukraine Caucus
Bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus
bought by
Ukrainian Congress Committee of America.

I warned y'all about shipping Europe war 'fugees with rotten beefs to the "New World." But y'all insist those hyphenated ancestral homelands are "vassals", not clients. Cracks me UP!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 22 2024 20:13 utc | 38

https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/438

The senior Ukrainian drug addict made a simple propaganda move, caused by a failure at the front. Ruthlessly blowing a double dose, he signed a decree on territorial claims against Russia on lands “historically inhabited by Ukrainians.” There is nothing to comment on here, since Ukrainians are Russians, and Little Russia is part of Russia. And it’s time for the main “Ukrainian” to quit. So he will soon annex Canada...

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 22 2024 20:17 utc | 39

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 18:34 utc | 22
«Scott Ritter has said it a gazillion times - no one in the US cares about Ukraine any more than the CNN tells them to care about it. And CNN cares about Ukraine only to the point it's useful to the MIC complex, which it soon won't be.»

As usual I wish people made a difference between "home front morale" propaganda, which comes and goes and does 180deg turns whenever needed ("We have always been at war with Eastasia!"), and the long term geopolitics of the USA strategists.

The USA strategists sanctioned and destabilized in every way the USSR from 1949 to 1989, 40 years, and have pursued regime change in Ukraine since the first military cooperation agreement in 1993, achieving partial success in 2004, full success in 2014, and achieving beyond their greatest expectations in 2022, while working hard to also destabilize and regime-change Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Armenia (succeeding in Georgia and Armenia so far), etc.

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 22 2024 20:21 utc | 40

The British military of course is ahead of everything else in that regard. The idea it could fight Yemen is a joke, never mind Russia.

No-one actually wants to die for these neo-s**t-lib regimes.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jan 22 2024 17:15 utc | 6

Just watched a YouTube channel.
The British no longer have any auxiliary support vessels in their navy.
In essence they are an inshore navy.
To operate globally its assumed allied nation's will supply fuel munitions etc.
Big bet.
The jet's that hit Yemen flew from Cyprus across Israel and down the red sea.
For how much longer will this murderous nonsense be indulged by the Egyptians and Saudi's.
The direction and assistance in operations against Russia aren't forgotten I'd imagine.
And for all the hubris.
The EU don't cut them any slack anymore.
Play silly dangerous games.
Get lethal prizes.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 22 2024 20:26 utc | 41

It's like a fire insurance. If the fire is small enough, the insurance company might say OK, here's your insurance money. If the fire is huge, and results massive, potentially bankrupting liabilities for the Company, they will dig up one of the 1000 different clauses and say, 'hey guy's, seems you missed this prerequisite requirement in maintaining your house fire safety, sorry, we can't cover ya, see ya'.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 19:35 utc | 30

Very interesting perspective.
And it's plausible
Would the Russians test it if there's a grevious enough provocation?
There's a lot of nuclear power plants through Russia.
Would that be enough.
Or as been posited more than once hit a npp in Ukraine and blame it on Russia.
There's a clique crazy and evil enough to justify such an outrage.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 22 2024 20:38 utc | 42

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 19:35 utc | 30

That sounds like any western insurance provider. Ever tried to use dental "insurance"? In quotes for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 20:45 utc | 43

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 20:10 utc | 37

You’re either dissembling or ignorant, ironic that the desire to blame Churchill is so great with some posters they waive the German strategic bombing that directly targeted civilians (not dive-bombers, but strategic bombers, whose crews had cut their teeth in the SCW). British raids did not specifically target cities, (that came later), CEP (Circular Error of Probability) was 5 miles at night and industrial targets were initially chosen. The first retaliatory raid, for the bombing of UK civilians, was a German military airbase (floatplanes actually). Of course the Nazis were only following on in the footsteps of their ancestors, who used naval/aviation assets to target civilians (check out Liege and Hartlepool).

Posted by: Military | Jan 22 2024 21:03 utc | 44

Posted by: Military | Jan 22 2024 21:03 utc | 44
You won't disprove a lie with a lie.

Posted by: irish al | Jan 22 2024 21:19 utc | 45

Honzo@37
To call Churchill a "lying sack of shit" is very insulting...to shit. He was much worse than that.

Posted by: AJ | Jan 22 2024 21:25 utc | 46

Military@44
What strategic bombers did Germany possess in WW2? Britain was bombed with He111s, Do17s and Ju88s, none of which had the payload or the range to qualify as strategic bombers.

Posted by: AJ | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 47

Interesting things from Military Summary. More Ukr. surrenders across the front. An acceleration of soldiers killed and Ukr. may be starting to depend on horses.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 48

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 20:45 utc | 43
«That sounds like any western insurance provider. Ever tried to use dental "insurance"? In quotes for obvious reasons.»

I discovered in a business magazine article that virtually no retail (consumer level) "insurance" provider is actually willing to provide insurance, because every customer is treated as profit centre, that is there is no risk pooling among customers except for a few traditional areas (fire insurance, life assurance).

As a consequence most "retail" insurance accounts are regarded as if they were loan facilities, where every payout is considered merely an advance that must be at least fully prepaid (via premiums) or repaid.

That's why employer or other group insurance contracts are much cheaper than individual "insurance": because they do have a risk pool of all the members of the account.

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 22 2024 21:35 utc | 49

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We've had two solid years of wildly inaccurate propaganda filling western minds with garbage. What is the shock/cognitive dissonance going to look like when Russia annexes Odessa and Kharkiv and imposes neutrality on the defeated rump state? When Russia rebuilds a peaceful and prosperous Novorussia?

Will it just be forgotten, like the humiliating retteat from Afghanistan? Or will it have some tangible impact?

And when exactly do you think that will be?

Posted by: Julian | Jan 22 2024 21:35 utc | 50

Blissex 34: “if tonight the people of London were asked to cast their vote whether a convention should be entered into to stop the bombing of all cities, the overwhelming majority would cry, ‘No, we will mete out to the Germans the measure, and more than the measure, that they have meted out to us.’”

Ah yes, with 62,000 civilian deaths in England in the entire Second World War, and at least 1.2 million Germans, which as usual is still a low estimate, Churchill once again shows himself for what he has always been.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 22 2024 21:48 utc | 51

Will it just be forgotten, like the humiliating retteat from Afghanistan? Or will it have some tangible impact?

you have to think about it in hollywood terms.
afghanistan lacked a central villian. sure, some goatherding "terrorists" were there, but nobody cares about that.

now russia on the other hand.. they have putin! evil. dastardly. scheming. handsome.
evil incarnate. i bet he and peskov eat kittens before going to bed. (this is all sarcasm btw)

memoryholeing such a central figure will be hard, especially in europe. the eu is hellbent on spewing propaganda at every single opportunity. liverwurst scholz even had to add putin in his newyears speech! putin stole the new year!

and dont forget biden, blaming "puddn" (im not sure if that idiot is talking about putin or pudding) also on everything, televizied.

no, i dont think they will be able to simply switch to the next thing this time. as long as putin is alive or in politics, this is going to haunt them and people are going to ask questions.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jan 22 2024 21:49 utc | 52

Sobre o bombardeamento de cidades na 2a WW.
Seja lá quem átacou primeiro, havia uma enorme diferença de doutrina entre alemães e ingleses, consubstanciada nas capacidades de seus bombardeiros.
Enquanto os He-111 e Ju-88 alemães não ultrapassavam 1.000 Kg de carga e tinham pouca alcance operacional; os Stirlling, Lancaster e Hallifax ingleses, além de maior alcance, carregavam todos mais de 3.500 Kg de bombas

Posted by: Soviético | Jan 22 2024 21:50 utc | 53

Posted by: Military | Jan 22 2024 21:03 utc | 44

In some fields there was a lot of discrepancy between what was the theoretical official policy/doctrine and what pretty much everybody knew would actually happen. When it comes to the RAF I would say the the ghost of Douhet loomed over it well before the war...

Posted by: Satepestage | Jan 22 2024 22:15 utc | 54

The times, they are a'changin' so fast. Once I was a Russian Bot, yet now I'm an Iranian Proxy. What shall I be tomorrow to such "official" airheads? Betwixt and between such madness are truth and its seekers. ;)

Maybe if I am well behaved and patient I may aspire to be an Iranian Bot or a Russian Proxy! :o)

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 22 2024 22:25 utc | 55

Posted by: Pq | Jan 22 2024 16:01 utc | 15

Thank you for providing/ introducing the very interesting

bollyn.com

An reporter who was in prison for his work exposing
Estonia and the illigal weapons transport to an unknown country in the middel east
Obama and his link to
Zionizm
and linking much of these and other big events together

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jan 22 2024 22:32 utc | 56

Posted by: AJ | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 47

It’s Milites, don’t know what happened there. Strategic bombing does not require a strategic bomber, the German mediums you mentioned were perfectly capable of performing the role, just as their early RAF counterparts were. It was only with the introduction of the heavies that the term was used for a specific class of bomber.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 22 2024 21:48 utc | 51

‘The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.’

Bomber Harris

Couldn’t say it better myself, and I’m sure you haven’t forgotten the role the ADD and the 18th Air Army in the strategic bombing of cities.

As for the respective loss ratios, it wasn’t for want of trying by the Germans, just their inadequate methods that kept the toll mercifully low, that and the excellent UK civil defence infrastructure. Your figure of 1.2 million Germans is a 100% increase over the maximum figure most sources agree to disagree about.

Posted by: Milites | Jan 22 2024 22:42 utc | 57

So when will Ukraine's front finally collapse? Even with the foreign equipment apparently throttled, there's still no acceleration on the front line. No big arrows, attrition war continues. For how much longer?

Posted by: catdog | Jan 22 2024 22:46 utc | 58

Posted by: Milites | Jan 22 2024 22:42 utc | 57

In retrospect, Germans would have probably fared far better in the Battle of Britain had they focused instead of escorted bomber raids on British air fields from the get go, they could have maybe sent independent fighter sweeps over the airfields while bombing the radar installations on the shore of the channel.

After the British lose their 'eyes', after that the bombing raids on airfields would fare much better.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 22:48 utc | 59

Young woman from Kiev, originally from Lugansk, relocated in 2014. Her words.

Hi, things have changed a lot now. now all Ukrainians have understood who Zelensky is, he is the most important corrupt official in the country. he deliberately prolongs the war and throws people into the war in order to stall for time in order to take as much money as possible that comes from the United States

We've all learned and seen it. He plays the role of an actor, a poor president who fights for justice. But that's not the case. Now everything is falling into place, now everything becomes clear why YarmaK is still working there, and so on.


In any case, Ukraine has turned 360 degrees, and most likely . . .

Posted by: Dante | Jan 22 2024 22:55 utc | 60

ne thing I don't get about the "Austin is dead" coverup theory is why would they cover it up, if he were killed in Kiev?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

I think because admitting he had been killed would be a great embarrassment to the US. After all, only they and Israel have the skill and intel to assassinate prominent individuals from a distance.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 22 2024 23:19 utc | 61

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 22:48 utc | 59

The BoB, was virtually un-winnable by the Germans, as it exposed every single weakness of their strategic implementation, that previous successes had concealed. Yes, a more concerted attack on the radar chain, more fighter sweeps and bombing of airfields would have yielded better results, but the RAF would just have shifted fighter squadrons from other less stressed regions. In the end, it was a monumental folly that achieved little at great cost, symptomatic of the German strategic failings that doomed their initial operational victories.

As for the conduct of the battle one senior lecturer at JSCSC Shrivenham summed it up by saying, ‘the British fought with the ruthless determination we usually expect from the Germans, and the Germans fought with the amateurish bravado we normally expect from the British.’

Posted by: Milites | Jan 22 2024 23:20 utc | 62

Watching the general big picture and it seems the Russians are now waiting. General pressure all along the frontline in Ukraine - basically the methodical destruction of anything holding or operating a weapon. I read the Geroman twitter as it often has links ect to the big picture but more often than not swamped with useless frontline maps.
I guess the Russians are waiting to see what the Euro twits will pull next.

Russia China Iran - at the moment keeping the US stretched and chasing its own tail. US debt skyrocketing. Iraq running guerrilla style harassment against US bases.

... the long wait to see what breaks next - Europe, Middle east, China front still not on the horizon with US immersing itself in the middle east again....

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 22 2024 23:21 utc | 63

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 22 2024 23:21 utc | 63

Ukraine seems to be imploding in on itself as a functional state. It is already pretty much lawless and dysfunctional. No need to rush in to take this or that city, just wait and see what happens.

The corruption is through the roof, everyone involved in subcontracting for the government is stealing whatever they can, buying luxury villas in places like Switzerland, Croatia, Germany, Italy etc. Zelensky and his team themselves are skimming off massive amounts of cash from aid, the last news they bought two yachts worth $70 million.

Meanwhile they don't have money to pay salaries for soldiers and probably soon they won't have money to run public services, or they will print money and collapse the hryvnia.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 22 2024 23:41 utc | 64

Meanwhile...

The son of a brigadier general of the French army was killed by a strike by the Russian Armed Forces at a point of temporary deployment of foreign mercenaries in Kharkov. His partner (also killed) came from a hereditary military dynasty in France.

According to Mash, the name of the Frenchman eliminated by a high-precision strike is Sébastien Claude Remy Bernard. He served in the RICM (formerly the Moroccan Colonial Infantry Regiment) in the Marine Light Armor unit. For reference: it was these groups that equipped the famous AMX-10RC wheeled tanks, which Paris proudly sent to Kiev as military aid. During the process, this scrap metal was deemed unsuitable for mechanized combat.

Bernard first arrived in Ukraine in 2022, but did not receive the desired position in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and returned to his homeland. A year later he tried his luck again and joined the 5th Assault Brigade. On July 3, in the Bakhmut area, he participated in the medical evacuation of his wounded fellow countryman Maxime Leconte (a rifleman from the International Legion of Terrestrial Defense), who publicly admitted that the much-hyped Ukrainian counteroffensive turned out to be a bloody failure. On January 16, he was killed by a Russian missile strike.

His partner is Alexis Drion. He is the son of Frédéric Drion, who became a brigadier general in the French army in 2001. Alex joined the Ukrainian Armed Forces no later than last year. He served in the 2nd Battalion of the International Legion. Also was killed on January 16th.

The remaining 60 killed and about 20 wounded mercenaries are recognized activists of Nazi groups in France and other EU countries. Each of them served in the army and even belonged to a battalion of alpine hunters. Many were fired for inappropriate behavior, after which they left for Ukraine. In total, more than a hundred mercenaries from France died during the fighting in the SVO zone. - FRWL reports

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/01/i-talk-headlines.html#comment-6373123967

Posted by: rpst | Jan 22 2024 23:55 utc | 65

Unimperator@59
Milites@62
Germany did start with attacking ports, railway hubs, airfields, factories, etc. Only shifted to bombing residential areas as revenge for Allied terror-bombing of German civilian targets. This was a monumental error as It allowed Britain to recover sufficiently to continue fighting.

Posted by: AJ | Jan 23 2024 0:02 utc | 66

Dante@60
A 360-degree turn is a full circle, meaning that one is still going in the same direction...

Posted by: AJ | Jan 23 2024 0:06 utc | 67

Just a thought b, can we have the name of the poster at the head of the post so we can choose, quickly, whether to scroll past and find reasoned arguments instead of ploughing through reams of shite.....
There are many here who have asked previously to ban certain commentators, this option seems a simple solution without upsetting anyone`s sensibilities.

Posted by: extremebuilder | Jan 22 2024 17:12 utc | 5

The Disqus comment system would allow people to easily block others and allows easy replies to others and a subtopic to have it's own distinct path as replies go below the comment they are replying to.

Posted by: Simon | Jan 23 2024 0:06 utc | 68

AJ@67

She is a farm girl from Lugansk. I report her notes as she wrote them, not as I would have.

Posted by: Dante | Jan 23 2024 0:19 utc | 69

Stephen Bryen speculates on Ukraine's retreat to Lwow, Budanov sabotaging a nuclear reactor and US scrambling to 'save' the regime and prevent Russian connection to Europe (them cutting own deals with Russia).

https://weapons.substack.com/p/rumors-ukrainian-general-zaluzhny

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 0:20 utc | 70

Dante@69
Thanks for the clarification. Let's hope that the Ukrainians indeed learn the truth about the war and figure out how to incorporate the words "Zelenskiy", "rope", and "lamp post" in a single sentence.

Posted by: AJ | Jan 23 2024 0:42 utc | 71


@Whirl 1
The Ukrainian army should behave in the same way, because the enemy's aggression can be stopped by even greater aggression.

Yes, definitely invited to try.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 16:19
He is right. Russia will do nothing that is why English controlled nato dares to sink Russian war ships and kill Russian civilians while Putin pretends that he is not in war with the anglos.

utc | 1

Posted by: Sam | Jan 23 2024 0:42 utc | 72

unimperator. I was considering posting the whole thing, but...

Folks, this is an important article.

"Stephen Bryen is a former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense and is a leading expert in security strategy and technology. Bryen writes for Asia Times, American Thinker, Epoch Times, Newsweek, Washington Times, the Jewish Policy Center and others."

He's thinking clearly here and sees the writing on the wall - and it's not pretty for US/NATO.


https://weapons.substack.com/p/rumors-ukrainian-general-zaluzhny

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 23 2024 0:45 utc | 73

AJ @ 66
When you realize that Hitler was an agent of the City and his brother lived in England then it all falls into place.

The German High Command were more interested in protecting or attacking targets close to "home". They basically had no intention of bombing England at the beginning since Hitler spoke at many of his meetings of staying out of any big war with France and England. Germany built up it's army to defend their homeland AND to take back the territories stolen from them by the horrid and unfair Treaty of Versailles. The Jewish question was forced on them when world Jewry declared economic war on Germany in 1932 from a massive Jew Congress in NYC.

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 23 2024 0:46 utc | 74

@wvirlx 12
Quote "Why do you always imply that Russians are stupid, over-polite, inert, afraid and such? That is a banner flying of a "defeatist 85" Strelkov & Prigo Style, aka haste and many irrational claims and deeds done.
"

Cassad was right, types like Martyn or saker acted as enemy and not real friend of Russia.
Putin must not win next election-he is incompetent.

Our government, unable to achieve a military defeat of Ukraine on the battlefields, decided to act on the principle: “Beat your own people so that others are afraid!”. She decided to shut the mouth of people who support the military actions in Ukraine, but are highly critical of the way they are carried out.

Didn't Igor Strelkov from the beginning of the NMD shout about the need for mobilization in order to achieve at least parity in manpower with the enemy?
Didn't Igor Strelkov call for a ban on "meat storms" that led to a wave of thousands of funerals in the homes of our fellow citizens?
Didn't Igor Strelkov warn about the lack of adequate support for our troops in Ukraine and the need to mobilize not only the army, but also our defense industry? What about society as a whole?
Didn't Igor Strelkov warn for many months about the danger of the presence of the Wagner PMC on the front and the possibility of any illegal actions on her part, including a rebellion? Isn't Igor Strelkov demanded an end to hatred propaganda on federal TV channels, which essentially work for the enemy and instead of forming a defense consciousness, lulling our citizens that everything is going according to plan and our victory will happen any day?
Didn't Igor Strelkov warn about the danger of constant "agreements", "grain deals" and concern for ammonia pipelines in combination with gas pipelines, as well as treacherous concern for bridges across the Dnieper?

In this situation, I, Colonel Alksnis, express solidarity with my colleagues Colonel V. Kvachkov and Colonel I. Strelkov.

Do what you must, and be as it will be!

Posted by: Sam | Jan 23 2024 0:51 utc | 75

What is likely to happen to the average American's mindset when Russia wins?
Posted by: team10tim | Jan 22 2024 16:35 utc | 2
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No one is likely to notice in the US, unless a discussion starts about 'Who lost Ukraine?' The news is already off the front page. There are many distractions.

MSM and Blinken are already positioning that the Ukies did not do what we told them to do when they still had plenty of weapons. They squandered them and their people. Too bad, so sad.

By the time November rolls around many other newsworthy items will fill the void. Biden's replacement, Israel/Gaza, Yemen, whatever else blows up or is blown up by the US. GDP growth will be minimal and the economy will just limp or move along.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 23 2024 0:58 utc | 76

@Posted by: Blissex | Jan 22 2024 19:46 utc | 34
Cburchill that ugly toad like crude vulgar war criminal who Hitler by error trusted and fell for English bas-rd's words.

Hitler and WW II. An authoritative work I strongly recommend, despite the conservative American author's reflexive hatred of the USSR and Stalin which makes him unreliable as far as that goes, is Buchanan Patrick J. (2008-05). Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War.

contemporaneous evidence reflects that Hitler had no plans to attack, let alone rule, Europe or any non German speaking parts of Europe or Asia. In March 1939 Hitler told the German High Command that they need not plan for a near term war, as he only foresaw a possible brief but decisive conflict with the USSR in 1942.

Posted by: San | Jan 23 2024 1:02 utc | 77

@miketes 57
Bas-rd bomber Harris

Ardenne
Britain’s “Bomber” Harris, who led the RAF Bomber Command during its mass raids on Germany in the Second World War, cut his teeth devastating Kurdish villages in Iraq in the 1920s.


Heinz Guderian - master of the Blitzkrieg and father of modern tank warfare - commanded the German XIX Army Corps as it rampaged across Poland in 1939.

Personally leading the devastating attack which traversed the Ardennes Forest and broke through French lines, he was at the forefront of the race to the Channel coast. Only Hitler's personal command to halt prevented Guderian's tanks and troops turning Dunkirk into an English bloodbath. All because vily coward liar Churchill promised something to hitler only token resistance to his ultimate aim-to destroy russia and (thus from brutish point of view germans too.)

4th June, 2007.


President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.in fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM againstt Russia. BBc spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation.in other word accept fraudulent win of bush for sake of england ! “
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all ( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how germany was vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.

Posted by: Sam | Jan 23 2024 1:05 utc | 78

From Telegram reports

The ship "Ocean Jazz", damaged by the Houthis, took part in the transportation of American equipment transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the United States to Europe.

Amid the US failure to stop Houthi attacks, the EU announced it would strengthen its military presence in the Red Sea to protect shipping.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jan 23 2024 1:09 utc | 79

@73 daffyDuct - fyi the author of that blog spent en entire career hawking weapons and policy adviceto the DoD. I suspect he's simply pitching the reallocation of US resources to other areas of conflict that are of more interest to his colleagues.

I wouldn't put much weight on the many speculations, apparently pulled from the Ukro Twitter universe. Some random, some outlandish.

Safe bet is US will continue to shovel weapons over, with the only change being that you can forget about Air Defense, as that's now needed elsewhere. These transfers can be with or without counting them or letting Congress have a chance to haggle over some aspect of it. Given it's another tense election year, one figures it'll be kept out of sight.

UA has still enough breathing men to keep doing this for another year or two, and Russia seems resigned to more or less the current pace of action, notwithstanding occasional moments of crescendo such as the past few days.

Posted by: pxx | Jan 23 2024 1:14 utc | 80

Blissex | Jan 22 2024 19:46 utc | 34
*** Declaration by Churchill in a speech on 14 july 1941:
“if tonight the people of London were asked to cast their vote whether a convention should be entered into to stop the bombing of all cities, the overwhelming majority would cry, ‘No, we will mete out to the Germans the measure, and more than the measure, that they have meted out to us.’” ***

Note he didn't actually try asking all those he claimed to speak for.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 1:17 utc | 81

Busy day for my substack with three articles:

"Lavrov at UNSC Again, 22 January," https://karlof1.substack.com/p/lavrov-at-unsc-again-2..

"Russian State & Labor Relations," https://karlof1.substack.com/p/russian-state-and-labo..

"Alastair Crooke's Monday Activities," https://karlof1.substack.com/p/alastair-crookes-monda..

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 23 2024 1:57 utc | 82

Some videos for today.

Barbarous Kiev regime shelling massacred nearly 30 civilians in Donetsk yesterday:
https://rutube.ru/video/e5ea3cc4cb2d55740c5ed46a558bab5b/

Russian airborne troops storm enemy trench near the recently liberated DPR village of Veseloye:
https://rutube.ru/video/42c2c922594ad48171ab45bd59d5befc/

Russian Msta-S self-propelled howitzer opens fire on enemy position near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/17b87a9e0bedef9275ea8c6638060f16/

Russian BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle in action near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/27553fb72e301db8447e9c77fcdc4ef3/

Russian Ka-52 assault helicopter conducts strike near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/a9b654a95b7c001a2f786aa3d4572af2/

Posted by: Nate | Jan 23 2024 2:15 utc | 83

Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
There are whispers from Kyiv that Zaluzhny will be fired and CIA favorite Kyrylo Budanov is taking over the Ukrainian Armed Forces. If it’s true here’s why:

The real President of Ukraine, Victoria Nuland, needs someone crazy enough to blow up a nuclear power plant and Budanov is her guy. She needs a pretext for NATO troops to enter Ukraine, urgently. Russia is winning the US proxy war and Nuland is running out of options.

In her deranged mind the best way to get NATO involved is to harm Europeans with a radioactive cloud from a nuclear power plant that Russia allegedly destroyed. The Propaganda media would sell the story and suppress the truth as it has done throughout the war.

If Budanov executes Nuland’s dirty plan he would become the next Zelenskyy. That’s her promise and his ambition.

Zaluzhny would leave a vacuum. Ukrainian soldiers are burned out. Assistance from the West has dried up, temporarily. The window for Putin to end this war on Russias terms is now. Expect a major push.
Image

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1749380743124701558

Posted by: Menz | Jan 23 2024 2:39 utc | 84

Didn't Igor Strelkov...

[...]

I, Colonel Alksnis

Posted by: Sam | Jan 23 2024 0:51 utc | 75

This is old -- Alksnis has been battling serious malignant cancer for the last several months and I haven't seen him post almost anything regarding the SMO.

But it is 100% correct. Strelkov has been right about everything from the start. And he didn't have to be some unique visionary to be right about it -- it was obvious to everyone with a brain.

Also, what is happening with Alksnis illustrates the other sad aspect of the whole situation -- the people who are raising their voices against the regime from a patriotic position are almost all of that generation that is on its way out biologically. They knew the USSR first hand, and they simultaneously have the awareness of how it was versus how it is now and have nothing to lose, making it possible to take such a position publicly.

Everyone else is mostly staying silent once Strelkov was jailed. The likes of Rybar used to post highly critical about the conduct of the SMO materials. Then Strelkov was arrested, the Kremlin summoned the military bloggers to a few meetings, and, through a combination of presumed threats and buying them off by making them public figures with a state-sponsored star status, they have been now mostly shut down in terms of voicing dissent ever since.

Of course, we all still keep our fingers crossed that this time the Kremlin will come through decisively and bring real victory.

But does the available evidence suggest that strongly? Not really, unfortunately...

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 23 2024 3:32 utc | 85

One thing I don't get about the "Austin is dead" coverup theory is why would they cover it up, if he were killed in Kiev?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

Could be something far more embarassing. For example, peritonitis resulting from insertion of a huge foreighn object into rectum for the purpose of sexual gratification.

Posted by: averros | Jan 23 2024 3:36 utc | 86

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 22 2024 18:54 utc | 26

What if Austin was not killed by a Russian missile but in fact via an attack on Zaluzny which caught him.

Whatever the explanation it certainly is not the prostate cancer story - although quite possibly he did have some treatment booked.

Something is definitely up. Thing is that if he is alive and moderately well, he could appear and the prostate story might stick, but his absence is suspicious. However I am not convinced he is dead, since they could simply have had the story of him dying in ICU, held a funerals etc.

So my guess is he is alive but badly disfigured ie not injuries consistent with prostate cancer or an infection.

Of course perhaps there has been a coup in the whitehouse and nobody has told us.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 23 2024 3:55 utc | 87

The Russian Armed Forces are fighting in Avdeevka itself.

According to Come and See , the Russian army managed to enter and gain a foothold in Avdeevka itself.

“The fighting is on the faces of Avdiivka. The Russian army reached Sobornaya Street,” a channel source said.

According to him, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are attempting to counterattack.

“At the moment, all enemy counterattacks have been repulsed,” he notes.

The strategic goal of the Russian Armed Forces remains the same - to cover the Avdeevsky fortified area from the flanks and destroy the Ukrainian Armed Forces group.

The liberation of Avdiivka is important not only strategically, but also psychologically. It is from there that a significant part of the attacks are carried out on the civilian population and civilian infrastructure of Donetsk.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jan 23 2024 4:02 utc | 88

Heavy is the albatross that is Ukraine upon the neck of The West's Wallet... Around $5 billion a month minimum. Why punch another nation's people indiscriminantly when you can punch a cabal's wallet and liquidate their true believer guardians? ;) Only incompetents grossly target innocents in the line of fire.

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 23 2024 4:36 utc | 89

Milites #62, good summary of BoB. The unspoken result of the BoB was the loss of crew who were irreplaceable. Ditto panzer crews in Poland and France. By Barbarossa the sharp hard pros were diminished.

Posted by: Nick | Jan 23 2024 4:47 utc | 90

Our government, unable to achieve a military defeat of Ukraine on the battlefields...

Do what you must, and be as it will be!

Posted by: Sam | Jan 23 2024 0:51 utc | 75

So... why exactly are you not on the battlefield, armchair warrior asshole? Your tiny hat prevents you from volunteering?

Posted by: averros | Jan 23 2024 5:03 utc | 91

Posted by: extremebuilder | Jan 22 2024 17:12 utc | 5

Just a thought b, can we have the name of the poster at the head of the post so we can choose, quickly, whether to scroll past and find reasoned arguments instead of ploughing through reams of shite.....

I strongly support this thought and hope b will consider it if the platform that he uses (Typepad) can accommodate it.

Posted by: Alchemist | Jan 23 2024 6:15 utc | 92

Posted by: Alchemist | Jan 23 2024 6:15 utc | 92

Please no. This platform is low tech with a purpose. Otherwise we will be tracked and identified. No anonymous posting anymore.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 7:12 utc | 93

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 23 2024 4:36 utc | 89

EU controlled Europe is wrecked. They stripped a lot of their other budgets in order to fund Ukraine, or put another way, they dismantled a lot of their other budgets to give money to Raytheon. Since Raytheon wants profits, they don't actually build significant amount of new production, they just utilize the existing line they have to the max to make more profit.

This has led to a potentially decade long order queue of weapons, but the volume isn't going to be much higher vs. 2021 and before.

EU has also lost a vast portion of its historical industrial crown jewels, especially in Germany.

Meanwhile US is chasing its own tail in the Middle East, debt is piling up, they have to keep the Israeli black hole afloat as well, Iran is hitting US bases on a weekly basis and they are scared to do or say anything because Iran can also cause more critical damage.

Ukraine is like the rock tied to the foot - fancy for a nice swim?

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 7:39 utc | 94

… The retired U.S. Navy captain of the first rank believes that all means are good for defeating the enemy, so Kiev does not need to "shy away" from strikes on civilians. He believes that the more ordinary people die, the faster victory will come. …

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 16:19 utc | 1

This has been the subtext from the outset, certainly since the first shells landed on ZNPP to so little objection from Ukraine’s sponsors and especially since the destruction of Kakhovka HPP.

A lot of the other criminality could be written off as lower level commanders exceeding their authority (even though it wasn’t) but attacks on ZNPP and Kakhovka HPP are mega-crimes with political backing.

The Harry Tabachs of this world aren’t close enough to the front.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 23 2024 7:43 utc | 95

Reporter's question:

- Putin signed an executive order declaring the sale of Alaska to the United States in 1983 illegal. How do you respond to this?

US State Department Deputy Press Secretary Vedant Patel:

"Let me get this straight. Did he sign a document stating that the sale of Alaska is illegal?

- yes.

"I think I can say for all of us in the U.S. government: of course, he won't get it back.


https://t.me/jnb_news/42504

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 7:52 utc | 96

Posted by: Milites | Jan 22 2024 22:42 utc | 57

Looking around and listening, that quote seems still quite apt.

“The Nazis (russians, that is) entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else (Ukrainians), and nobody was going to bomb (or attack with drones) them”

See? with few modifications, rings very true.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Jan 23 2024 8:23 utc | 97

(OT, but I’ll make an exception for a nonagenarian)
@ Posted by: Alchemist | Jan 23 2024 6:15 utc | 92 re: poster at the head of the post

Been suggested a zillion times. Not gonna happen here. And that's jes' fine, imo.

My method is to start at the end of a comment section and skim backwards to find out which
discussions I want to pursue. Then I open extra windows for as many pages as needed and
follow the discussion from the start. It takes some time but overall is efficient.
(plus I can totally ignore shadowbanned at warp speed)

That's why too it's most important to copy and paste the entire 'Posted by' line when referring
to other posts.

I also usually keep a Word doc. open and copy comments to that to isolate discussions and make notes.
It was a lot easier when just us boomers were here but now with all the millenials, xers, trolls, and
wannabe intellectuals, chaos R us.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 23 2024 8:28 utc | 98

[ Album ] ❗️This is the result of the "professional" Ukrainian air defence in Borshagovka, in the Svyatoshynsky district of Kiev. And in the Darnitsky district of Kiev, missile debris fell on the roof of a multi-storey building and near a kindergarten, local authorities said.

@ukraine_watch
https://t.me/llordofwar/281596

...

❗️According to reports from a number of sources, the Russian armed forces launched a missile attack on the military and logistics infrastructure of the Zelensky's regime in Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Kharkov, Kiev and a number of other regions of Ukraine.

https://t.me/levangudadzeopinion/14100

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 8:34 utc | 99

Posted by: Alchemist | Jan 23 2024 6:15 utc | 92

There is a small script that someone posted and I use on my iPad Safari, which puts author’s name on top of a comment. I lost the url unfortunately. Could post the script it’s so short. Not sure if it’s allowed.

Posted by: RB | Jan 23 2024 8:36 utc | 100

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