https://t.me/pushilindenis/4204

As a result of artillery fire from the VFU in the Donetsk microdistrict Tekstilshchik, 27 civilians were killed, another 25 people were injured of varying degrees of severity, including two teenagers.
Also in the Kuibyshev region, the driver of a repair crew, a man born in 1990, was injured as a result of ammunition being dropped from a UAV. In the same area, as a result of shelling, a man born in 1979 was killed and a man born in 1957 was wounded. In the Nikitovsky and Kalininsky districts of Gorlovka, three local residents were injured.
In total, 28 people were killed today and 30 residents of the region were injured.
11 residential buildings were damaged in the Kirovsky and Kuibyshevsky districts of the capital, the Central City and Kalininsky districts of Gorlovka, the Central City and Kirovsky districts of Makeyevka, as well as nine civil infrastructure facilities in the Petrovsky (school), Kirovsky (market, shopping center, store) districts of Donetsk, Nikitovsky (school, two power lines), Kalininsky (boiler room, gas pipeline) districts of Gorlovka.
The enemy carried out 27 attacks, fired 82 rounds of ammunition, used 152 mm and 155 mm caliber artillery, and an attack UAV. Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka, Yasinovatsky district are under fire from the Air Force.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 21 2024 20:00 utc | 103

Re the term Russian speakers. Zelensky was a Russian speaker when becoming president. He could not speak the Galician dialect and had to learn it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 21 2024 20:04 utc | 105

2) We can dismiss the local saboteur theory because these weren’t small commercial drones that a single person can sneak in anywhere
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 21 2024 17:16 utc | 46
Wrong! You don’t “sneak” such drones in as whole units. They are brought in in small parts, put together at some location a few miles outside the target area, then used.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 21 2024 20:07 utc | 107

I think there is a kind of internal wish in Europe, a kind of psychological urge to go, destroy and plunder Russia. Like described at the end of the film “White tiger” in the hypothetical monologue by Hitler after the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wjMmeNS9wA

Posted by: zorge | Jan 21 2024 20:20 utc | 109

Honzo @ 48

The Germans have no revolutionary consciousness, and it’s going to be hard to develop in the thought-control regime that is taking over the west.

Japan dared break its chains in the 1980s when instead of recycling it surplus through Wall Street and the Fed it decided it could actually invest them in a way profitable to itself (what China is now doing w/ the BRI) it was crushed to never recover in the 1985 Plaza Accord. Sadly, its people never rose up and the country’s leadership became even more docile and obedient, I’d say terrified, exactly as the USA predicted. Germany will be the same, a docile ignorant public, what protest there are will be provincial like the farmer protests, and its political class will have whatever initiative and ambition they had completely scared out of them.
The breaking of Germany served an extremely important purpose in the integration of the EU as a anti-democratic superstate, Germany was a prima donna, it had created its own fiefdom in eastern EU to supply its industry with cheap parts and outsourced labor and established political allies in N.EU, it was then taking its euro surplus and instead of recycling into the eurozone according to European Stability Mechanism rules it invested it abroad in non EU countries in the ex-Warsaw pact, plus Russia and China. Germany was beggaring its eurozone neighbors, enriching itself to push its weight around politically, for the last 20ys EU policy was German policy, what was good for Germany was what was good for the EU, and it was interfering with the Brussels Atlanticist WEF Eurolandia project while pissing on the Emperor’s shoes.
With NS2, sanctions on its Russia trade, and being burdened with the major part of UKR war financing all adding up to the destruction of its economy, the USA-UK and their Atlanticist collaborators broke the German prima donna’s legs, its star career is ended, from now on Germany will have to go hat in hand to Brussels for the money it needs to run the country exactly like the periphery and exactly what we are presently witnessing with Hungary which is hogtied by EU demands, it monies confiscated, it voting power to be annulled unless it does as it’s ordered.
Germany has been cowed and broken like the rest of the EU, one among equals now, supposedly that’s a good thing but the EU project is to break national identities, culture, and political will and power (that’s what excess immigration is about). Remember the EU has no Treasury, no fiscal way to tax and recycle monetary discrepancies, no way for bottom up democratic pressure to influence and moderate top down political will, the goal is to create the perfect anti-democratic neoliberal techno-feudal corporate superstate that is bound and subject to the USA. Like Japan it looks like the goal is achieved.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 21 2024 20:23 utc | 111

as our respective politicians steer us determinedly towards the lunatic Cold War II that’ll follow on from the Ukrainian defeat, but more than I had known of.
Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 21 2024 18:38 utc | 69
I don’t about you, but I think that Cold War II is the least lunatic thing western leaders are likely to do. I prefer it immensely to immediate escalation to global nuclear war.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 21 2024 20:41 utc | 113

Lev Davidovich | Jan 21 2024 17:35 utc | 57
Your courteous tone (65) is exemplary but the points that you make are of too great importance not to be defended.
You are correct to date the beginning of the reaction as being in 1945 or ’46 with the election of the 80th-thoroughly reactionary Congress.
The tendency, to which I have been as prone as anyone, to date the reaction from the mid-seventies and the neo-liberal cult, is mistaken in that it forgets the totalitarianism of the Truman-Eisenhower years in which the Trade Union movement (starting with the United Electrical Workers) was comprehensively smashed and, through the series of trials, exemplified by the judicial lynching of the Rosenbergs, McCarthyism and the Loyalty Oath movement, not only the people of the United States but, at a moment in which the US was hegemonic, much of the world were purged of “Communists” and dissidents of every kind questioning ” Free Enterprise”.
Which, of course, the New Deal had done-in spades.
There was a massive purge, in terms of numbers far larger than anything Yezhov ever managed.
‘If someone insists that there is discrimination against negroes, in this country, or that there is inequality of wealth, there is every reason to believe that that person is a Communist..” said Spokane’s Albert F Canwell, Chair of the Joint Legislative Unamerican activities committee of the Washington State legislature.
According to Canwell 150 faculty members at the University of Washington were Communists. The purge of the University, one of the first in a wildfire of conformism that spread over the United States, was supported by the Board of Regents. And then emulated in California and elsewhere.
It was an era from which neither the United States nor the rest of the Empire have ever recovered, as we see, threequarters of a century later, by the difficulties American critics of their government have in shedding the anti-communist hysteria which has coloured their (our) lives.
Those who claim that everything was reversed in the ’60s probably weren’t there, because then and ever since all has been coloured by the fundamental acceptance of anti-communism (anti-stalinism?) which has been taken for granted in all reforms.
For example the Civil Rights movement, in so far as it succeeded at all, did so at the cost of losing its militants-most of whom were eliminated by government assassins or maginalised in a Black community that is now the electoral base of the Clinton-Biden Democrats.
The Great Society- LBJ’s return to the New Deal- was part of a polity in which anti-communist wars were the dominant feature. Which was one reason why it was so easily and rapidly demolished by his successors- who had built their careers of anticommunist demagogy.
Hollywood, now an adjunct to the Pentagon’s crudest propaganda, was emptied of a generation or two of talent and intellect as Directors, scriptwriters and even actors were driven into exile. And everyone left had got the message.
History is nothing if not a connoisseur of ironies. And the reality is that much of the reason why the United States is declining quickly, and has been in decline for decades, lies in the licensing of bigotry and folly which began in the wake of the World War, intensified during Korea and has been simmering ever since.
In fact has been worsening: the lost generation of exiled genius orphaned an entire generation-the Baby Boomers- from a crucial part of their intellectual heritage. They went to University in unprecedented numbers but what they got when they arrived there was the milquetoast of Hannah Arendt, and her myriad siblings, the narrow minded anti-populism of Hofstadter, founded on the academic school of Arthur Schlesinger Jr and the voodoo economics of the Chicago Boys recycling the discoveries of the economists who had reached their conclusions when Franz Joseph occupied the throne in Vienna.
And they are with us still, those intellectuals who had learned the narrow bounds within which enquiry was allowed. Worst, their students, who flirt with ‘libertarianism’ because it is allowed and nobody will call it ‘out of date’ (the way that ‘everyone knows’ Socialism is) instead of addressing capitalism, insist on the existence of conspiracies featuring bankers, The City and minor European ethnic groups.
The City was effectively demolished in Mrs Thatcher’s Big Bang. Ever since it has been nothing more than a conveniently located-jurisdictionally and geographically- branch office of Wall St. Or the Hedge Funds that own it.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 21 2024 20:43 utc | 115

the west is preparing a new and bigger war.
Mobilization in Finland, Poland and preperation in Sweeden. Dutch and German officers are promoting mobilization.
Not a word about security, de-escalation and diplomacy.
Pls. read the important article by Jan Øberg:
https://janoberg.me/2024/01/08/sweden-prepares-for-war-in-the-hands-of-calm-hysterics/
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jan 21 2024 19:27 utc | 88
The west is preparing to suppress opposition to their puppets in the Baltics when the war in Ukraine is lost. There is a simple binary in terms of widening the war directly against Russia- either it leads to more western defeats, or it leads to global nuclear war. As hot headed as some neocons and born-agains are, the real power is the core group of financiers, and global nuclear war is very bad for profits.
The secondary purpose of NATO activity in the Baltics is to create a potential to interfere with a sudden Russian advance in Ukraine. Actually using this potential would be suicidal both for those NATO troops and for the Baltics as independent nation states, but since we all know how much the real powers care about the Baltics or their own troops, it can’t be discounted, so Russia has resources tied down to prevent it.
From a military point of view, forward deployment of NATO forces for a conventional attack on Russia makes no sense whatever, in the Baltics or anywhere else. Any country unwilling to sacrifice their own troops would not even send them to the Baltics to begin with, which should be a wake up call to NATO forces in general.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 21 2024 20:54 utc | 117

Weird as it sounds the only safe locations in this world for the next 8-10 years will be countries with massive land area and minimal populations. Good choices for those looking to stay well away from built up cities so this will include stark, desolate and remote harsh wilderness. This will be very safe for survival but of course will only be beneficial for outdoorsy folks with some bushcraft skills.
Best locations will be Russia, Canada, Argentina, Angola, Namibia and Chile (Patagonia).
I myself have 50 acres of land just north of Sudbury where entry involves an ATV or Argo.

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 21 2024 20:56 utc | 119

@zorge
“I think there is a kind of internal wish in Europe, a kind of psychological urge to go, destroy and plunder Russia.”
Sorry, that’s bullshit.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jan 21 2024 21:09 utc | 121

Honzo @ 120
REALLY??? Wtf!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 21 2024 21:17 utc | 123

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 21 2024 20:54 utc | 117
I know some Estonian people. A lot of them are in actuality scared sh#tless – not from Russia itself, but because what could happen as a result of their lunatic politicians.
In northern Europe, generally the nazis are a minority, they are just the most vocal one and other opinions are suppressed through an unwritten regime of fear. Of course, the media is mostly US corporate media proxies so the news is mostly what you’d expect.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 21 2024 21:22 utc | 125

The NATO dim-wit Bauer who stated the other day that “civilians will have to play a role” in this new era of Russian Aggression and “there will be a need for mobilization of the civilian population is complete fuqueing bollocks!
These turd-brains need to think again. The armies of the western world are lacking new recruits for a reason and it’s NOT just because they’re fat, drug-addled and brain-dead.
The young people of today are sick and tired of being sick and tired of war. They mostly are becoming somewhat anti-establishment these days as can be seen with the overwhelming support for the Palestinian cause and the complete lack of empathy and support for European politicians and their Ukro agendas. No, there will be many, many more youth of today sitting in prison cells if a mandated conscription should happen to appear in their countries. Shaking my head at the delusion of these so-called leaders of the free world!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 21 2024 21:26 utc | 127

What you advocate here under the pretence of supporting Russia, is a recipe for international terrorism, which would alienate the African, Asian and South American countries which are poised to become part of the BRICS axis, and give retroactive justification all previous such murderous illegalities from the US/NATO. Either up your game or get lost.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 21 2024 18:21 utc | 65

The ‘international terrorism’ ship sailed with the destruction of Nordstream. All Russia needs is plausible deniability, like the West. A billionaire’s yacht is lost in a storm. Terrible tragedy.

Posted by: Mike R | Jan 21 2024 21:44 utc | 129

…. how all this is a game for most people here. They are from the West, and they are mostly enacting various fantasies of their own through the imagined eventual Russian victory. But that means they don’t actually care at all about Russia or the people who are paying the ultimate price for all this.
shаdοwbanned | Jan 21 2024 19:56 utc | 101

Ouch. In many ways, unfortunately, this sounds about right. It’s a fair reasonable point to draw ‘overall’. The exceptions prove the rule iow.
and the @ https://t.me/pushilindenis/4204

In total, 28 people were killed today and 30 residents of the region were injured.
11 residential buildings were damaged in the Kirovsky and Kuibyshevsky districts of the capital, the Central City and Kalininsky districts of Gorlovka, the Central City and Kirovsky districts of Makeyevka, as well as nine civil infrastructure facilities in the Petrovsky (school), Kirovsky (market, shopping center, store) districts of Donetsk, Nikitovsky (school, two power lines), Kalininsky (boiler room, gas pipeline) districts of Gorlovka.
The enemy carried out 27 attacks, fired 82 rounds of ammunition, used 152 mm and 155 mm caliber artillery, and an attack UAV. Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka, Yasinovatsky district are under fire from the Air Force.

The same goes for the West Bank (+400 killed) and Gaza (+25000killed). Not only recently today, but for 100 years. Though better late than never, I suppose. I also hear many ‘lectures’ being given daily. Too many.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 21:54 utc | 131

“I myself have 50 acres of land just north of Sudbury where entry involves an ATV or Argo.”
Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 21 2024 20:56 utc | 119
I have property just east of Salton.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 21 2024 21:56 utc | 133

Germany [apropos snake about 16h20 GMT] seem to have been secretly holding the Morgenthau plan dear to their hearts and awaiting the perfect circumstances to put it into effect. Still, if it leads to that outcome of revitalised pragmatic co-operation between the RF and the German one, so much the better for helping the world resist that nasty persistent blight infecting it from the far west.

Posted by: petra | Jan 21 2024 22:01 utc | 135

“The Baby Boomers got the most Ideological-Free education of the last century, it was ALL downhill from there…” bisfugged@122
You mean ideology free, like yours was? Meaning believing all the crap that Rotarians in Bancroft believe is not an ideology?
As for your remarks regarding the City- assertion however loud is no substitute for argument. If you look at who runs The City you will soon discover that it isn’t the Rothschilds it’s the same people that run Wall Street and the United States.
They of course prefer to keep it quiet- if there are any peasant revolts in prospect they would like nothing better than the riots to take place in London and the pitchforks to be aimed at straw men named after those who died in the 1840s.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 21 2024 22:08 utc | 137

‘No making friends, no human contact with the Germans, who by the war crimes they have committed place themselves outside of the society of civilized nations’
…from the Allied propaganda booklet, 1945.
(also used by Die Krupps, “Germaniac” song)
So, that was denazification approach in the old times. Now, all that basically, can be used again on Ukrainians and Israelis.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 21 2024 22:27 utc | 139

watcher | Jan 21 2024 22:35 utc | 140
Church of Rome vs Church of Constantinople. It also runs deep in the European elite.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 21 2024 22:44 utc | 141

First, because they are psychopaths
Second, because they don’t fear any consequences for themselves.
As long as the people responsible for this do not fear for their lives, it will continue.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 21 2024 17:08 utc | 41
Shadowbanned has been right about things for a long time now. NATO and the Ukronazis are getting bolder and bolder against Russia and aren’t even pretending that killing civilians is collateral damage.
Russia needs to get smarter and bolder against the Ukronazis and the NATO agents helping them. Bases in Romania, Bulgaria, etc. which are used in the attacks are legitimate military targets, as are U.S. satellites involved.
I think Russia should also close down some of the foreign embassies in Russia and kick out all foreign personnel of particular countries. It also needs to shut down those who are sponsored by George Soros or similar foreign NGOs which are still pushing anti-Russian propaganda. I notice many of these people have youtube channels where they harass Russians and then use the videos to make fun of them.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jan 21 2024 22:54 utc | 143

Posted by: zorge | Jan 21 2024 21:25 utc | 126
It’s not 90,000 combat troops, it’s barely 11,000 if you take into account the T3R (Tooth to Tail Ratio), of 8:1, ie how many support troops are needed per combat soldier. I doubt that such a small force could achieve anything meaningful, apart from securing a perimeter around some key locations, as such a deployment becomes a ‘self-licking lollipop’.

Posted by: Milites | Jan 21 2024 23:14 utc | 145

If similar attacks continue people in newly reclaimed parts of Russia will lose faith in Russia.
Ukraine must be prevented from attacking them.

Posted by: Jason | Jan 21 2024 23:19 utc | 147

The Australian public couldn’t tolerate a few deaths, so the Taipan helicopters were retired early.
Ukraine got wind that a bit of scrap metal was going spare, and launched a pressure campaign on the Australian govt to “hand ‘em over”.
For once, or, at the moment, the Aussie govt is saying, “nope”, understanding the machines can’t fly, and making them operational is a ridiculous waste of money.
4 years ago:
>…MRH90 Taipan soars with the Australian Defence Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0q7U2DlsSA
Expensive vanity PR vid.
>… 2 years ago
“Australia to scrap Taipan army helicopters | 7NEWS”
“Australia’s defence force will scrap its fleet of Taipan defence helicopters, replacing them with Black Hawks and Seahawks from the US.
It means the army and navy will replace 47 European-designed Taipans, and bring in 40 US helicopters, at a cost of $7 billion.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD7Rc8HAr90
>… 3 months ago
Australia’s MRH-90 Taipan helicopters retired early in wake of Whitsundays crash | ABC News
The Australian Defence Force’s MRH-90 Taipan helicopter fleet — one of which was involved in a fatal military training exercise in the Whitsundays — has been retired early.
The decision comes after the crash which killed four defence personnel in Queensland during a military exercise, and other well-documented concerns about the aircraft’s airworthiness.
Defence Minister Richard Marles confirmed on Friday morning the Taipans will not return to flying operations before their planned withdrawal date of December 2024.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkx7-lRvVHM
>… 3 weeks ago
Defence dismantles Taipan helicopter fleet
The Defence Force has reportedly begun dismantling its grounded fleet of Army MRH-90 Taipan helicopters.
According to the ‘Asia Pacific Defence Reporter’ (APDR), the decision was signed off in secret to destroy them rather than try to sell them.
The publication suggests some expensive components such as gear boxes are being sold to New Zealand.
The dismantling process is expected to take several months, before parts are buried in what’s been dubbed ‘a large defence landfill site.’
Defence Minister Richard Marles said on Friday: “We are looking at all the options available for maximising the value which sits within the Taipan fleet”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDS9qDNeO2w
>…This weekend
The Defence Force has reportedly begun dismantling its grounded fleet of Army MRH-90 Taipan helicopters.
According to the ‘Asia Pacific Defence Reporter’ (APDR), the decision was signed off in secret to destroy them rather than try to sell them.
The publication suggests some expensive components such as gear boxes are being sold to New Zealand.
The dismantling process is expected to take several months, before parts are buried in what’s been dubbed ‘a large defence landfill site.’
Defence Minister Richard Marles said on Friday: “We are looking at all the options available for maximising the value which sits within the Taipan fleet”.
Shadow Defence Minister Andrew Hastie has called on Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles to “stand up and explain” to the Australian people why he has chosen not to give Ukraine access to Taipan helicopters.
His comments come as Australia has formally rejected a request from Ukraine to access Australia’s fleet of the now-retired Taipan helicopters.
The government said none of the aircraft were in “flying condition” and are being dismantled.
“Richard Marles, the Deputy Prime Minister, needs to stand up and explain to the Australian people why he has chosen not to give the Taipan helicopter to the Ukrainian people,” Mr Hastie told Sky News Australia.
“Ukrainians are in for the fight of their lives.
“We need to step up, we need to support them, they’ve asked for the helicopters.”
Starts at 6:45m. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lWQXtOuZwI
>…”Help now’: Ukraine calls out for assistance from a silent Australian government”
Ukraine “needs more help now” as requests mount for retired helicopters from the Australian government but no response has been given, Ukrainian World Congress Vice President Stefan Romaniw says.
“We believe that these Taipans, these helicopters would be of great need in Ukraine – for us, very, very important that we get the message across to the Australian government.
“Ukraine needs more help now.”
The U$ was smart to use Ukraine as a giant landfill for old useless gear.
If Australia was smart we’d grant the Ukrainian wish. Let them dispose of them for cheap.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 21 2024 23:33 utc | 149

by unimperator | Jan 21 2024 22:48 utc | 142
Yes. To run Ukrainian state per month, Zelensky needs $ 4.6 bil. Every month, just for the state to function.
Not military, not weapons.
So, if left alone, Ukraine (“at the end” – literary is that what it means U-kraine in a brutal translation) is dead and done within 2-3 month, if it stays as is. If EU prints money and gives a truck or two of Euros aside, Ukrainian state can survive on a planned EU budget for about a year, some speculating the grain exports and some electricity could make it just as an interest rate. But, I doubt that happens.
Fico from Slovakia and Orban leading the blocking EU wave, assuming some more eastern Europeans in EU to step-up and EU is blocked, probably for some time to come. They have no mechanism to combat this.
Finally one can await the period where actually MSM is going to be right and straight on reporting from the ever retreating Westwards frontlines. This is the only language they recognize – a merciless might. I expect nothing less, really.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 21 2024 23:35 utc | 151

bevin | Jan 21 2024 20:43 utc | 115–
Yes, total denial of reality and manufacturing of the Major False Narrative that’s been the major feature of the West ever since. Objective historians attempting to correct the record are smeared as “revisionist” when that’s the nature of all history. It’s very discouraging to discover you’re living within a Big Lie while trying to discover the Truth. It’s becoming easier to spot those who appear on these threads to mount a defense of the Lies of the Past and the falsity of the current Narrative.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 21 2024 23:44 utc | 153

Russia can resort to some psychological measures.
For example, test detonation of a nuclear weapon.
That could maybe make the west afraid.
But I doubt. The West has no fear. Specially the EU citizens.
They are ready to march on Moscow.

Posted by: zorge | Jan 22 2024 0:20 utc | 155

Paul from Norway | Jan 21 2024 19:27 utc | 88
the west is preparing a new and bigger war
Yep.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 21 2024 23:19 utc | 146

But they are reluctantly dragging their feet. Do they have a stockpile? I am convinced, they do. Do they have ‘the meat’ to man those? Not yet, but it is planned. Do they have amazing R&D and secret, already built stuff? None.
To plan for the war in a long run, one has to nationalize big factories, create bonds and awash the whole layers of society with money. To do that one needs at least 10 years of stable economy and government that knows what it is doing. None such found. They are too late. Next time.
However, apparently there is a big struggle between EU and the USA in the NATO HQ.
I think that the USA is now trying to make all kind of promises on weaponry, energy and products, as long as it takes, one more time, this one addressing EU.
Also, if NATO intervenes, who is going to strike first, how, where? One can imagine, that many generals would love to try. There are geniuses over there thinking:”What Model, Klug, Horst, Guderian? We can do it!”
It is, as I wrote yesterday, a very dangerous game. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a pre-premptive Russian kinetic security measure action to prevent that from happening and send the message. I mean if Zakharova from MFA, is particularly tough on Germans today – witty? Yes, but almost losing it to a vulgar. I think everyday Russia is getting very annoyed a bit more, and it shows. It’ll be not easy to stop Russians, once they start rolling and shooting their general’s plans about. It also could be messy, at least in the beginning.
The only way to quickly take the NATO down is to granulate it by nations and have it in dismay and maintain the internal conflict, as fighting the united, motivated and committed NATO would be a hard job.
Does anyone think that Russia will just passively observe the West Nazifying and arming themselves to rinse and repeat the history? China doesn’t want that, that is clear, Arabs are not happy there, certainly Africa has gotten rid of Stockholm syndrome towards ex colonizers, so anything hypersonic, in the general Western direction is welcome, sure. What else?

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 0:40 utc | 157

Posted by: zorge | Jan 22 2024 0:20 utc | 155
What a load of codswallop.
Which Europeans? The spoiled children of Boomers – no way too old. The even more spoiled grandchildren of boomers. It might mean getting out of bed before midday. The naturalized/born children of immigrants from Africa and the Middle east. Not sure how their patriotism will stack up against an ancient European enemy, but not one an enemy for them. Indian and Pakistani immigrants /descendants. I wonder?
Yes Baltic nations and Poland will fight but I would not count on too many from Germany, France or the UK or Italy. The Greeks could be a big problem – might find NATO officers being fragged. They are after all an Orthodox nation.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 22 2024 0:45 utc | 159

@zorge 2:
Apart from the fact that they are vicious nazis, it has a perverted logic:
1. To force Russia to commit troops to the Donetsk front instead of say Kupyansk.
2. To enrage Russian soldiers so that they begin killing surrendering Ukrainians. Remember Volga 149.200 has been extremely effective at persuading Ukrainians to give up. Stopping Ukrainian surrenders is very important for the nazis.
3. To enrage Russian civilians so that they attack Ukrainian refugees, hopefully prompting an exodus back to places where they can be cannon fodderised by Elensky.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 22 2024 1:21 utc | 161

One list of French soldiers form Kharkov:
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/9728
And another one:
Partial list of French “mercenaries” in Ukraine. More important information (dead or alive, military rank etc.) will be disseminated later as well as other identities.
Albert Aymeric (22.12.1999)
Alexis Drion (13.06.1986)
Berenger Guillaume Alain Minaud (30.12.1978)
Charles Bertin Roussel (01.09.1996)
Emmanuel Tanguy Kenneth Delange Grandal (26.09.1998)
Gilles Bernard Sylvain (27.10.1980)
Jacques-Pierre Gabriel Evrard Philippe (29.09.1987)
Jean-Pierre Bonnot Chris Heraid (17.07.1999)
Marcellin Demon (23.05.2002)
Maris Andre Dubois Clement (28.09.1995)
Sabastienne Claude Remy Benard (04.04.1974)
Thomas Jeremy Nathan Gourier (24.02.1996)
Valentin Dupoy Mel (02.01.1994)

Posted by: Naive | Jan 22 2024 1:44 utc | 163

“…Actually using this potential would be suicidal both for those NATO troops and for the Baltics as independent nation states,..” Honzo | Jan 21 2024 20:54 utc | 117
That is pretty well the history of the Baltic outpost/states during the past four centuries.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 1:55 utc | 165

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 22 2024 1:24 utc | 162
Shadow is obviously a paid disruptor, and probably many of his very long posts are in fact AI – not all- you can tell the ones when he is real.
He has a clear plan and motive – undermine support for the Russian Government and spread disillusion and despair. He also deliberately tries to provoke over reaction and Russian response that will trigger WWIII or a nuclear response from NATO. You see he/it knows that NATO does not wish to be the first to use nukes but they desparately want to. So they are trying everything to goad Russia into using them first. it is so bloody obvious that his repetition is very annoying.
Every single post is the same. indeed I am thinking that I might try to post early on in every new post spot and summarize what Shadow is about to say, before he says it. Then nobody needs to bother reading his posts.
He is boringly bad – occasionally makes sense but increasingly it is repetitious rubbish

Posted by: watcher | Jan 22 2024 2:03 utc | 167

by Naive | Jan 22 2024 1:49 utc | 164
It is a bit harsh to say that. It is just that projecting doom and gloom is not very productive business. I just do not like lack of understanding on nuclear use and a reasons why not.
Cheering for that can be interpreted this or that way, but in general he does express impatience, and a haste, and even the things move fast on all of the fronts, so much has to happen to be even close to the ‘Ruzzia, must nukes them’.
Some issues he has on the point, never the less.
If he is Navaly’s stooge, than he must be a racist, and shaddow x.x.x. is not of such a timber.
I think he is a very Westernized dewd, but from the Balkans.
Impulsive is all right to say.
I just think it is stupid to frame someone as an agent …yes, of its own conciseness perhaps.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 2:05 utc | 169

Desculpe Bevin.
Maldito corretor de texto…

Posted by: Soviético | Jan 22 2024 2:07 utc | 171

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I’ll give 7 days before Avdeevka falls completely.

Well, you will 100% be wrong then – I’ll even give you until the end of the month – and you’ll still be wrong!

Posted by: Julian | Jan 22 2024 3:27 utc | 173

Sorry – for millions it was the end of the world

Posted by: Green Hammer | Jan 22 2024 3:35 utc | 175

by unimperator | Jan 21 2024 16:46 utc | 35
Luckily when Russians plan something like this they know all the options and variations based on a memory of previous conflicts, and that is the reason for going smart, instead brave and stupid. Also on RF military academies, many veterans from Cold over Afghanistan to Chechnya to the SMO, are teaching and it is a massive pool of people and experiences.
So basically hard-liners are not needed anymore.
Red-lines are thick enough, for everyone to see, but also trip over. People who think the there is no answer to provocations are wrong. It is whack-a-mole game from Russian side, and stab from the NATO’s side. Plus a benefactor – the desired country where lots of money went, rent-a-Ukraine project is devastated.
I only know that this war will not end until, Ukraine is de-coasted and RF has a full dominance over the Northern half of the Black Sea and Danube Delta. Failing that, Russian security guarantees, with which they can live, will not be fulfilled.
RF will try everything to achieve that. Silk glove or a gauntlet applied, nobody should doubt that.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 4:09 utc | 177

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 22 2024 0:40 utc | 157
I’m not making a case U$Nato can or should start a bigger confrontation with Russia. I’m just reading the tea-leaves. One tea-leaf is Ben Hodges.
If you tell me he’s an idiot, I’d agree with you.
But he’s an idiot very determined to escalate and “defeat” Russia.
A while back I linked an interview Hodges gave, and IMVHO it was a blueprint for “next”.
You ask …if NATO intervenes, who is going to strike first, how, where?
Hodges tells us.
Crimea.
“They” are *determined* to prise Crimea from Russia.
I’m not saying this is a good, or wise, or reality-based plan. But that’s the plan.
Who is the next patsy after Ukraine?
Romania(Moldova)? Poland? or Ukraine 2.0 with “coalition partners” occupying the western sector?
Britain is signing “agreements” with countries… why are these needed when U$NATO exists?
Just because the intention for an escalated conflict with Russia is dumb dumb dumb and doomed. Doesn’t mean that’s not their plan.
Old Hodges interview that convinced me Brit-NATO is escalating in 2024….

The Kerch Bridge must be destroyed in 2024 | Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYZBcNuChRM
Crimea is still the prize. And Hodges believes Ukraine can still take it back.

“I think that bridge, at some point in 2024 will be gone… and if you can disrupt the other side’s logistics, prevent the flow of ammunition and fuel… then you’re going to win.”
The destruction of the Kerch Bridge is crucial to the liberation of Crimea and success of Ukraine in winning the war, explains Lieutenant General Ben Hodges.

Hodges reveals “Ukraine’s” winter strategy
§| Ukraine is probably going to do the following: number one, they’re going to keep pressure on Russian logistics, they’re going to keep pressure on Crimea.
I think we’re going to see continued sabotage efforts inside Russia as well as occupied Russian occupied parts of Ukraine.

Look at when Hodges was bloviating …. Look what’s happened since.
As of now we have attacks on Russian logistics *inside* Russia [SPB]… so Hodges was telling us back then the next moves…

§|~ Ukraine has enough people men and women military age to fight this war
but they do not have a good system for maximizing their available Manpower there are too many Ukrainian men and women military age fit and able that are walking the streets in Ukraine and frankly there are thousands of Ukrainian military aged males in Germany, Poland and Romania right now.. they need they need to fix the system and get those people back home where they can serve just on the cyber warfare point of view …
Reporter: General, if if you could have a word in the ear of General Zalhuzny, Ukraine’s military commander-in-chief, and away from the politics of it, just focusing on the military side of things for the next few months, what would you be advising him to focus on ….
Hodges: I would tell him that we are learning from him. I am sick and tired of people in the Pentagon 5,000 miles away criticizing what he’s doing he knows better than any American or Brit what what is needed, he knows the Russians, he knows the terrain, he knows the people, he knows how to fight them, and I really think it’s embarrassing when when you’ve got Americans or British officers saying, well, you know, they didn’t do it the way we taught them … that’s …. we would never send an American or British soldier into combat … that’s bullshit.
we would never send an American or British soldier into combat without having achieved total air superiority, provided them with endless amounts of breaching equipment and ammunition fire support we’d never do that, and yet to criticize ukrainians …
“well, you know, they should have focused on just one place” … this is not the desert where you can make choices of one two three or four axes … they’re defending their country and they have to of course think about how do they protect their people ……

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 22 2024 4:17 utc | 179

According to Defence politics Asia, Russia has just captured the high ground across a valley. A week is probably too short but it would seem a Bakmut situation emerging within a fortnight. How long it takes after that depends on the willingness of Ukraine to see a city destroyed
Posted by: watcher | Jan 22 2024 4:12 utc | 178
Avdeevka is already destroyed, and there’s no doubt that the Banderites would be fine with it happening again. How long it takes to fully capture Avdeevka depends on how much artillery and air defense Ukraine can commit to its defense and how many conscripts it can manage to get in there. When they stop reinforcing it, the Russians will just attrit the defenders until they surrender, as always. What’s the hurry?

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 22 2024 4:20 utc | 181

167
Peskov is it you?
Watcher is obviously a paid Kremlin relativizer & spin doctor. Always whitewashing every failure & painting everything in rainbow colors

Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 22 2024 4:34 utc | 183

I wake up middle of the night as stormy weather beats my window. Fell asleep as usual to one of the Duran Alex’s. It’s like a bedtime story. I used to read a book until nodding off .. these days have gone. Books are piling up. There’s so much news to pay attention to. So many Indy reporters. Being killed for recording the slaughter.
So much crap mainstream to ignore. And hate. Them slippery people. The self declared elite.
Before I return to sleep I have checked for some good news.
I see Lavrov has once again ventured into the lions den and is going to be attending the quarterly meeting on the ME at the UN !
It’s good to see such a ..mature.. fellow working so hard.
That’s a balm, something to focus on and fall asleep to.
The recent push on Avdeeka and other fronts is the arm wrestler showing their power.
The murder and bombing of innocents in a market is the usual natzio play – going back to Sebrenica and the Ulttras in Italy.
Natzios are fucked , their surviving rat mercenaries not returning in big enough numbers to pass on the new methods to their 90k collected , babel horde gathered in the artic circle regions. Methods they are copycating from the RF !!! Because they didn’t win with their video games.
Captured mercs begging for forgiveness and being allowed to return home.
Killers in many illegal escapades around the world. Trainers. The fucks.
This will time they should get no quarter. Like they did after azovstal.
I dont want cold blooded , xenophobic, trained and experienced killers back in my hood. Where they will terrorise the neighbours, that give them nightmares.
They have forfeited any rights to a peaceful life. Which they will never be able to live.
3 days in NY. He is waiting for the Losers to do what they must , surrender, unless they are so frothing demented that they will sacrifice the to the last natzios. Idiots who hate Russia and Xi and never think twice about unconditional support for the child killers. The slinky tv ads have started. A life as a submariner, from the industrial northern wasteland to some glamorous life. Playing footbal oh ice with the sub parked next to it. Swimming in tropical seas from their sub. Hush hush bit so happy to have escaped their neighbours, new friends! But never will be an officer or admiral. Thats beyond your class, peasant!
Yup it looks like no reverse gear is the only option.
Well so be it. Die.
You Zionazis and the natzios.
Die of a thousand cuts far from any eyes.
Like you killed.
Lavrovs there for 3 days. This can be over. But it requires a surrender. H may even give soma face saving terms on behalf of the multipolar.
Ah the storm has abated I will check back in the morning.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 22 2024 5:05 utc | 185

Russia has just captured the high ground across a valley.
Posted by: watcher | Jan 22 2024 4:12 utc | 178
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High ground is not just for artillery placement anymore.
It also gives antennas the best reach.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 22 2024 5:15 utc | 187

Posted by: g wiltek | Jan 22 2024 5:08 utc | 186
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 22 2024 4:39 utc | 184
This was my simple take on covid and the vaccine
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Crazy person: “My seatbelt doesn’t work unless you wear your seatbelt”
Me: “Never talk to me or my family ever again. This is your one warning”

Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 22 2024 5:22 utc | 189

Another question: Does anyone know what area Northern Military District fighters are in? I assume, because of its name, that it is in the part of Ukraine north of the Donbass, and I guess that would be the part along the border with Russia where the Ukrainians shell Belgorod from?
Perhaps Shadowbanned knows. People complain about him here, but he knows many specifics others don’t seem to know or share.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jan 22 2024 5:30 utc | 191

Hey guys, propaganda runs both ways, you have no idea what the Ukies are firing at in Donetsk, both sides play the same game…..that civilians get killed……chosing to live in a conflict zone has risks.
That said, looking at some Russian strikes on the 404 rear, regular Joe’s Jane’s in the Ukraine are also dying…..lost to the fog of war.
Pray for an end to this carnage…..the human toll alone is sickening.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 21 2024 15:31 utc | 11

I will ask you a simple question: Assume you are in command of artillery. Would you waste a 1.000.000$ missile that you can produce only 10-20 per month just to hit civilians on the other side of Ukraine?

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Jan 22 2024 5:54 utc | 193

SlowSoft | Jan 22 2024 4:34 utc | 183
Watcher is obviously …
Plz go fuck yourself. Watcher is a known poster from Saker Vineyard days.
@bar.
Futile plea, … but can we collectively cease with the schoolyard “nah-nah, you’re a smelly troll” ad homs.
Yes. Paid saboteurs post. Unpaid zealots post. Retards post.
And more than a few well read, deeply thinking and intelligent posters contribute.
Plz engage discretion and activate scroll bar. It’ll reduce your reading time and blood pressure.
Find the value posts and plz skip over the troll droppings.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 22 2024 6:34 utc | 195

#39 Honzo- Jak se mas? Jsi dobrej ve vojenskej analyze….

Posted by: sejmon | Jan 22 2024 6:52 utc | 197

In no particular order
– a bit bemused by countries in Africa being described as safe havens. Angola FFS
– all this safe haven stuff sort of assumes you are able to even enter
– given what NATO has done to its military it would be interesting to see the actual composition of this 90,000 force exercise
– has there been a sighting of Austin yet? I see blah, blah about being released from hospital, being called to testify to Congress but zero recent visibility of the man in question.

Posted by: yarpos | Jan 22 2024 8:38 utc | 199