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January 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-005
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: watcher | Jan 8 2024 21:58 utc | 191 Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 8 2024 22:57 utc | 201 Normally I wouldn’t bother as these stories are so common, but this one struck me as particularly bold.
Thought this was interesting in the ‘what a difference a year makes’ in terms of what’s ‘allowed’ to be said in a public. That said I wouldn’t be opening any packages anytime soon if I were them.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 8 2024 23:20 utc | 202 karlof1 | Jan 8 2024 22:53 utc | 200 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203 The Rada has announced the “death of Zelensky as a political figure” Posted by: chop | Jan 8 2024 23:23 utc | 204 Thanks knighthawk for the info. Posted by: Jason | Jan 8 2024 23:44 utc | 205 Can’t recall which troll posted the rubbish about a supposed nephew of Putin losing his house. Now I am pretty certain Putin has no nephews, since his two brothers died in WWII – before he was born. So some poor sod with the name Putin may have had his house burnt down. Had the name Roman apparently which seems more Balkan than Russian Posted by: watcher | Jan 8 2024 23:58 utc | 206 https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index4490.htm Posted by: Richard Ham | Jan 9 2024 1:02 utc | 207
Yeah, unfortunately, none of that is objectively true. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 1:10 utc | 208 Zelensky has become a sort of opposite of the image or meme of Christ. Instead of one man who dies to save everyone, everyone remaining in Ukraine must die to preserve him. Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 9 2024 1:16 utc | 209 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Jan 9 2024 1:24 utc | 210 Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203– Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203–Cont’d– More delusional bullshit from the Western foreign policy blob, from the Atlantic Council, “To defeat Putin in a long war, Ukraine must switch to active defense in 2024”. Sorry, could not provide the link as B’s blog did not like it for some reason.
It is Russia that is bleeding Ukraine 10:1 with its massive advantages in artillery, drones, aircraft, helicopters and tanks and it is only getting stronger! Yes, please Ukies stay in one place so that we can easily blow you the shit up! Utterly delusional. Russia is under no pressure for victories, it is happy to slowly bleed out Ukraine with low casualties. More utter crap!
The offensive completely failed, there will be no more offensives against Crimea! Then this garbage:
The “Battle of the Black Sea” LMFAO, a few meaningless pin pricks does not a battle make! That the Atlantic Council publishes such drivel on its site shows just how pathetic its NATO overlords have become. And Mr. Bielieskov should perhaps move to writing phantasy novels.
Another ill-mannered buffoon. Go to the article. Search for Putin. It’s right there:
Not only did he mention that Putin had direct communication with CIA, he also maintains that this ‘encapsulates the entire dynamic of the war.’ @ karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:34 utc | 211 who asks Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215
Thanks for sharing your perspective. SMO is a pinning strategy, holding the Hegemon’s attention whilst the larger strategy is to undermine the West from within …. karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:34 utc | 211 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 9 2024 2:49 utc | 218
Donetsk has been hit daily for two years. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 2:52 utc | 219 I was wiping my bottom today and it looked just like jewkrania. On second glance it looked like Washington…or Brussels…or London. Not sure what it matters…sheet is sheet. Get ready for oblivion. Posted by: nook | Jan 9 2024 3:02 utc | 220 Yes, the vaunted Ukrainian air defense. That’s why RuMoD published a video today of using unguided bombs in the Kremmenya direction. Posted by: Lex | Jan 9 2024 3:18 utc | 221 I just heard an exciting rumor while I was sleeping. In a stunningly brilliant move Netanyahu and Zelenskyy have hit on the stratagem of thwarting their political opponents, and their nation’s electoral laws, by agreeing to support each other as they run for the job that each of them currently holds. Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 4:24 utc | 222 From https://unherd.com/?p=487346
Which is where it always belonged. Europe always viewed Russia with hatred, racism and contempt. So much so that the first Neandertal skeleton ever discovered, which belonged to a deformed individual, was at first identified as that of a Russian soldier.
Why would Russia want “reconciliation” with the decrepit and American-enslaved Europistani Union, which has repeatedly betrayed Russia? What possible value does Europistan, well on the way to resuming is historic place as a destitute irrelevant backwater, bring to Russia? Why should Russia, given the choice of engaging with the East, which does not hate it, choose the disintegrating and backstabbing west?
It is generally a good idea to read over your article before posting to make sure you’re not contradicting yourself. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:27 utc | 223 @shadowbanned 219 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:34 utc | 224
Thank you for that thorough reply. It sounds much worse than I thought. I don’t follow the kinetics partly because there is just too much along a huge front and partly because most of what is out there is incomplete, disinformation, misleading or I misinterpret it not being a military person. (I also don’t follow any of the stuff on the ground in Gaza – the only video I watched there was a military person holding open a gap in the Gaza wall for Hamas personnel in fatigues to go through on motorcycles on Oct 7 – maybe; maybe it was something entirely different.) In any case, your description sounds far more extensive than my admittedly vague impression.
And you are lying again because the quote you provided does not mean anything what you claim Simplicius says, that there is “It shows how there is communication at high level between CIA and Putin.” Posted by: Poslan1 | Jan 9 2024 4:58 utc | 226 Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 4:24 utc | 222 Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2024 5:17 utc | 227 Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 8 2024 22:53 utc | 200 Posted by: juliania | Jan 9 2024 5:21 utc | 228 psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215– Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2024 5:17 utc | 227 Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 6:12 utc | 230 Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 9 2024 6:18 utc | 231
Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:27 utc | 232
Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:52 utc | 233
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21120 Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:54 utc | 234 Posted by: scanalyse | Jan 8 2024 15:48 utc | 140 Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:58 utc | 235 @208 Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 7:06 utc | 236 @NemesisCalling – 56
The economy in Ukraine is vaporizing. There is nothing more left in the economy than bribes. The government rats have left the sinking ship, Klitschko himself owns two luxury apartments in Hamburg, and more recently the subcontractor of soft supplies (food etc.) for AFU has been buying luxury hotels in Croatia. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 8:39 utc | 238 More…
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 9:11 utc | 239 Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 1:10 utc | 208
He CISPO – you again… Posted by: ghiwen | Jan 9 2024 9:54 utc | 240 Posted by: ghiwen | Jan 9 2024 9:54 utc | 240 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 10:07 utc | 241 … Nato AWACS aircraft can act as the flying radar …
Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 10:19 utc | 242
Interesting that you say you were not aware of the real situation. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 10:49 utc | 243 There is yet no courage in Russia to declare a total war. Posted by: zorge | Jan 9 2024 11:38 utc | 244 Zorge 244: “At least I cannot see how such a huge army with total western support can be defeated.” – The combat deployment of so many people leads to such a high demand for goods that it can only be made possible through war economy. Which country in the West will be the first to put all its industry at the service of Ukraine ??? Exactly, none. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 11:47 utc | 245
Germany would be the first. Germans are ready to sacrifice everything for this war. Almost two-thirds of Germans in the survey expressed a desire for current German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to hand over his post during the current legislative period to current Defence Minister Boris Pistorius. Posted by: zorge | Jan 9 2024 12:02 utc | 246 Posted by: scanalyse | Jan 8 2024 15:48 utc | 140
https://t.me/milinfolive/114002
https://t.me/milinfolive/114000
https://t.me/milinfolive/114017
https://t.me/milinfolive/113999
(After which there are the Taurus cruise missiles, 910 if the Wikipedia info is correct) Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 12:14 utc | 247 @zorge | Jan 9 2024 12:02 utc | 246 Posted by: rk | Jan 9 2024 12:17 utc | 248
Bullshit! Posted by: schkid | Jan 9 2024 12:32 utc | 249 psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215 Posted by: Cynic | Jan 9 2024 13:04 utc | 250 @ schkid | Jan 9 2024 12:32 Posted by: Oberbayer | Jan 9 2024 13:11 utc | 251 More:
https://t.me/readovkanews/72126
https://t.me/readovkanews/72128
This isn’t even directly adjacent to the border, it’s beyond Kursk and Bryansk… Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 13:48 utc | 252 Apparent the streets of Kiev are flooded by “brown” water. Just like the verbal diarrhea spewing from the likes of Shadowbrain and cohorts. Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2024 13:51 utc | 253 re: “Guaranteed RF will take Kharkov and Odessa ..” Posted by: CommiesGoFY | Jan 9 2024 13:52 utc | 254 https://www.southfront.press/breaking-kiev-is-shelling-russian-civilians-in-belgorod-with-czech-made-vampire-mlrs/ Posted by: snake | Jan 9 2024 14:07 utc | 255 https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/28313
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/97949
Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 14:41 utc | 256 @shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 13:48 utc | 252 Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 14:45 utc | 257
This is absurd post-hoc rationalization. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 15:00 utc | 258 @shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 15:00 utc | 258
Yes it can end in a day, but will that route lead to the smallest amount of Russian casualties, given Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 16:35 utc | 259 https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-sky-is-falling.html Posted by: chop | Jan 9 2024 16:40 utc | 260
It won’t, Russia can totally annihilate any European country and the US will not initiate a strategic strike, because that means the US dies too. NATO protection is a fiction and it is time for someone to call that bluff. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 16:48 utc | 261 @257 Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 16:53 utc | 262 And it is not necessary, it can end in a day. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 16:56 utc | 263 Posted by: bevin | Jan 7 2024 21:11 utc | 36 Posted by: horseguards | Jan 9 2024 17:10 utc | 264 @shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 16:48 utc | 261 Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 18:01 utc | 265
Because you are being attacked daily, and it is only going to become worse, and clearly the fact that you have nukes that you are not using is not acting as a sufficient deterrent. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 18:08 utc | 266 “UK and France have nukes…” They are small, centralized countries. If the russians nuke London and Paris tomorrow morning completely, noone will talk about GB, France and their nukes in the evening. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 18:51 utc | 267 UK is easy take out — at this point their SSBN fleet is in such a decrepit state that it’s not even clear they have a sub out at sea at all times. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:11 utc | 268 @SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 16:53 utc | 262 Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 19:18 utc | 269 Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:11 UTC | 268 Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 19:24 utc | 270 @shadowbanned Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 9 2024 19:31 utc | 271 @shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 18:08 utc | 266 Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 19:34 utc | 272
I am wondering that myself. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:45 utc | 273 Posted by: chop | Jan 9 2024 16:40 utc | 260 Posted by: Milites | Jan 9 2024 19:51 utc | 274 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:27 utc | 223
It’s hard to say if Mr. Karaganov’s words speak for the average Russian, but from what I can gleam from this, that “Europe” viewed Russia with hatred, racism and contempt doesn’t make Russia any less European, and I frankly doubt that anyone here with a working brain would jump off a cliff if the self-proclaimed European elites, many of whom being in the payroll of certain non-European forces, did so. Posted by: joey_n | Jan 9 2024 21:48 utc | 275 |
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