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January 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-005

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Posted by: watcher | Jan 8 2024 21:58 utc | 191
You are not alone in auto-scrolling. For last year been in habit now of looking to see who’s the author before reading if the post is more than couple lines, saves time, as there are a couple that are just on perpetual repeat, or constantly dragging things OT (at least the ‘MMT’ talks in ukraine threads has died down in recent days).

Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 8 2024 22:57 utc | 201

Normally I wouldn’t bother as these stories are so common, but this one struck me as particularly bold.

The rear colonel sent 170 million for the products of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the companies WIFE, MOTHER-IN-LAW and DETAIL-IN-LAW, and then withdrew from ATMs😂
▪️The head of the central food supply department of the Logistics Forces Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel Alexander Kozlovsky, modestly stole 170 million UAH for the purchase of food.
▪️According to the publication “Our Pennies” and materials from the SBI investigation, from March 16, 2022 to June 13, 2023, several companies received money from the Ministry of Defense, and then transferred it to Kozlovsky’s wife’s company “Eco Trade Ukraine” (UAH 113 million), father-in-law ( 56 million UAH) and the colonel’s mother-in-law (2 million UAH).
▪️All this money was withdrawn either from accounts or from ATMs in Khmelnitsky. Kozlovsky’s wife personally withdrew 14 million UAH.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/59974

Thought this was interesting in the ‘what a difference a year makes’ in terms of what’s ‘allowed’ to be said in a public. That said I wouldn’t be opening any packages anytime soon if I were them.

Zelensky is “politically already dead,” – Secretary of the Rada Committee on National Security
▪️At a meeting of the National Security Committee of the Verkhovna Rada, a discussion of the government bill on mobilization took place with the participation, in particular, of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny and the Minister of Defense Umerov.
▪️”Now President Zelensky must understand for himself that he will never be president again… He must understand that politically he is already dead. And now he must make those decisions that have the opportunity to preserve this state,” and not those that will allow him to be re-elected, Kostenko said in an interview with NV radio.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/59971

Posted by: knighthawk | Jan 8 2024 23:20 utc | 202

karlof1 | Jan 8 2024 22:53 utc | 200
Still haven’t been able to post a comment at your substack. Keeps telling me to update my profile. Very much agree with what you wrote there. Patrick Armstrong some years back wrote something about “everything we have been told is a lie” and coming to the realization of that.
The brits resorting to low cost terrorism in the war against Russia, the American fleets departing the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. It is like we are approaching the eye of the geopolitical storm.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203

The Rada has announced the “death of Zelensky as a political figure”
Secretary of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security, Defence and Intelligence Roman Kostenko has accused the Ukrainian president of withdrawing from comments on the draft law on mobilization.
MOSCOW, January 8. /tass/. Secretary of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security, Defence and Intelligence Roman Kostenko has criticized President of the Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky for his silence on the draft law on new rules of mobilization and said that the Ukrainian leader had died as a political figure and would not be able to resume the post of head of state.
“I believe that now President Zelensky should understand for himself that he will never be president again, that this is his one and only term of office. He [Zelensky] must understand that he is already dead politically”, he said in an interview with Radio NV.
Kostenko, who represents the Golos faction, accused the Ukrainian president of distancing himself from comments on the draft law on mobilization. In his opinion, Zelensky does not want to take responsibility, but only seeks to maintain his political rating. “This is a problem for all of us, … because we see now that … [Zelensky’s] desire to maintain his own ratings is stronger than [the desire] to take responsibility”, he said.
The draft law on new rules of mobilization was submitted to the Rada late in the evening on 25 December, 2023, and it caused a serious resonance in Ukrainian society. Among the main innovations of the document are the restriction of rights for non-appearance at a military enlistment office up to blocking accounts, reducing the age of those subject to mobilization from 27 to 25 years, and the ability to send out summonses in electronic form. The Ukrainian authorities also intend to mobilize disabled people of group III.
Those Ukrainians who do not arrive at the military registration and enlistment offices in accordance with a summons shall be temporarily prohibited from travelling abroad, from carrying out transactions with movable and immovable property, from the right to drive their own vehicle and from obtaining a driver’s license, as well as from using and disposing of money and other valuables, and shall be denied conclusion of credit agreements and loans and the provision of benefits and government services to them shall be suspended. It is also proposed that conscription be abolished and universal military training introduced.
tass

Posted by: chop | Jan 8 2024 23:23 utc | 204

Thanks knighthawk for the info.
Ukie air defense successes are exaggerated but the trend is unmissable. Ukies have less and less AD capabilities.
Russia should overwhelm existing Ukie AD systems particularly in Kyiv and Lviv before sending in swarms of Ka-52s and Su-25s to annihilate Ukie tanks, HIMARS launchers, troops and IFVs.
Glad to see Russia has restarted attacking Ukie railway tracks that can both disrupt fast weapons and troop transport and create bottlenecks that can be busted by the VKS.

Posted by: Jason | Jan 8 2024 23:44 utc | 205

Can’t recall which troll posted the rubbish about a supposed nephew of Putin losing his house. Now I am pretty certain Putin has no nephews, since his two brothers died in WWII – before he was born. So some poor sod with the name Putin may have had his house burnt down. Had the name Roman apparently which seems more Balkan than Russian

Posted by: watcher | Jan 8 2024 23:58 utc | 206

https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index4490.htm
“Immediately prior to the shock announcement that Secretary of Defense Austin was in critical condition in a hospital intensive care unit, this report notes, Russia conducted massive missile strikes throughout Ukraine, after which it was reported: “Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was allegedly killed in Kyiv on January 3 when Russian cruise missiles peltered a command bunker where Austin and Lieutenant General Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander in chief of the Ukrainian Army, met secretly to discuss mounting an asymmetrical offensive to “bring Vladimir Putin to his knees”, claims a Russian FSB source…Austin and a bevy of Ukrainian brass were tucked away in what they thought was a secure military command center 20 feet beneath the streets of Pecheskry District in central Kyiv”—is a claim of Secretary of Defense Austin’s death attributed to so-called FSB agent Andrei Zakharov, who in factual reality is a journalist for British state broadcaster BBC, about whom it was previously revealed in 2022: “A Russian court has suspended prominent investigative journalist Andrei Zakharov’s “foreign agent” status pending his dispute of the restrictive designation, his employer BBC Russia reported Tuesday”—and this claim was made at the same time the British press began pumping out articles like “HOTEL BLITZ British Journalist Among 17 Wounded In ‘Deliberate’ Missile Attack On Hotel In Ukraine After Russia Vowed Revenge”.
As to why the British intelligence services would release propaganda about Secretary of Defense Austin being killed by a Russian missile strike in Ukraine, this report continues, has its origins in the world’s most powerful private intelligence organization Stratfor (aka “The shadow CIA”) branding the socialist Obama-Biden Regime overthrow of the democratically elected Ukrainian government in 2014 as “The most blatant coup in history”—a blatant coup accomplished by blaming the Ukrainian government for deliberately firing upon and killing dozens of protesters, but on 18 October 2023, the only trial examining what really happened concluded by throwing out all of the manufactured evidence of this false flag event—and with the Ukrainian peoples now knowing the truth, world-renowned American international expert Gordon Hahn, in his just released open letter “CRISIS POLITICS IN UKRAINE: Regime Split, Pre-Coup, Pre-Revolutionary Conditions”, grimly assessed: “Kiev is now gripped by crisis politics…With the Ukraine’s defense lines and army in slow-motion collapse and extreme discontent among top military commanders and across the political elite, Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskiy is fighting for his political and personal survival…More importantly, the stakes could not be higher for the Maidan regime’s coalition of nationalists, neofascist, corruptionaires, new oligarchs, and the occasional republican…Meanwhile, the young Ukrainian state, based on still poorly consolidated quasi-republican institutions and a nationalist ideology, is at risk of disintegration, dissolution, and even disappearance…It’s surrounded by growing threats: the Russian army, angry Ukrainian soldiers and commanders, Kiev’s financial and economic insolvency and dissipation, popular desperation, and the risk of palace or military coups, even a new ‘Galician’ civil war”.”

Posted by: Richard Ham | Jan 9 2024 1:02 utc | 207

Ukie air defense successes are exaggerated but the trend is unmissable. Ukies have less and less AD capabilities.
Russia should overwhelm existing Ukie AD systems particularly in Kyiv and Lviv before sending in swarms of Ka-52s and Su-25s to annihilate Ukie tanks, HIMARS launchers, troops and IFVs.
Glad to see Russia has restarted attacking Ukie railway tracks that can both disrupt fast weapons and troop transport and create bottlenecks that can be busted by the VKS.
Posted by: Jason | Jan 8 2024 23:44 utc | 205

Yeah, unfortunately, none of that is objectively true.
The last time RU sent planes over Ukrainian territory was the first weeks of the war. It has been totally off limits since then.
And the Ukronazis have in fact gained capabilities in the last year. Were they downing Russian planes over Russian territory previously? No. Now it happened twice (over Bryansk in May and in December over Kherson). Sure, we can talk about those being one-off well planned ambushes, etc, but the fact is that they did happen. Whatever legacy S-300s they had didn’t have the range to do it, the latest Patriots they have been give do have it. Objective fact.
Airspace is off limits to such an extent that Russia is not even sending UCAVs to bomb trains and other key rear targets.
When is it going to open up sufficiently for UCAVs to be able to do that? Likely never, the place is so infested with old Soviet and more modern NATO mobile air defense units and with MANPADs that it is impossible to clear them all any time soon.
Forget about ever having Su-34s dropping dumb bombs deep into Ukrainian territory in the coming years.
P.S. Railways can be completely disabled within a day, at most a week, of the decision being made to do so. This isn’t a technical problem for which you need to fly directly over — you need that to hit moving trains, but disabling the railways is a different task. You hit the key nodes and the key railway electric grid elements, thus you paralyze the network, then you destroy the locomotives in the depots and the locomotives stuck on the tracks with missile and Geran strikes, and the Ukrainian railways are finished. The locomotive manufacturing plant they used to have in Lugansk, and it has been shut down for a decade anyway, the West doesn’t have enough replacements, plus they are a different gauge too, and if they dare send some, you repeat the exercise. This not having been done is a purely political decision. Which has cost the lives of many thousands of Russians…
And no, they did not suddenly decide to start targeting the railways yesterday. We have seen that movie many times — an image of torn up tracks shows up and we all get excited that finally, this time you see, Putin has had an epiphany and has decided to do something to isolate the battlefield. Then the Ukrainians proceed to transfer men and equipment right to the front lines without anyone interfering, just as before.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 1:10 utc | 208

Zelensky has become a sort of opposite of the image or meme of Christ. Instead of one man who dies to save everyone, everyone remaining in Ukraine must die to preserve him.
He’s a dead man walking. He can’t stop, he can’t negotiate, he can’t run for election, he can’t leave office, he can’t stop lying about Ukraine ‘winning’. Otherwise, they would imprison or hang/shoot him.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 9 2024 1:16 utc | 209

Some videos for today.
The Kiev regime shelled a hospital in Donetsk on (Orthodox) Christmas Eve:
https://rutube.ru/video/a9279b6bae8efa9acb581e0f99d2554d/
Russia thermobaric TOS-1A system obliterates enemy position near Krasny Liman:
https://rutube.ru/video/d9285bc33b893714dd490eaa3ff02739/
Precise Russian drone strikes destroy enemy infantry on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/d9285bc33b893714dd490eaa3ff02739/
Russian Su-34 destroys enemy fortified position near Krasny Liman with two FAB-500 bombs:
https://rutube.ru/video/b77ac8eea91fdcb1447335c84de92f1e/
Russian mortar team fires on enemy position near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/7e3c5dc8c61cb86df50d96e605694cae/

Posted by: Nate | Jan 9 2024 1:24 utc | 210

Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203–
Thanks for your reply. I can’t understand why you can’t comment, but at least you can open and read what’s there. Of course, many musical lyrics are about our world of delusion/illusion, and have explained much for many years. I highly suggest this interview with Sergey Karaganov for it echoes much of what Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev, Ryabkov, and others have said about relations with Europe and what that means for Russia’s future. It also begs the question as to who will provoke the next Great Catastrophe; yes, the West but who within the West. And a related question: How long will it take for the overall Western Narrative to be replaced by something resembling reality? And if the current stock of Western elites are so poor, then why the assumption that in a generation (20 years) they will improve? And I need to add this short under 10 minute video interview by Tucker Carlson that I found at Global South, “Tucker Carlson and Bret Weinstein: Has the West Already Fallen?”: Is Weinstein’s confidence warranted?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:34 utc | 211

Peter AU1 | Jan 8 2024 23:21 utc | 203–Cont’d–
Just discovered that short video is at the end of a much longer interview that I’m certain you’ll want to watch. The link to the video and its transcript is here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:55 utc | 212

More delusional bullshit from the Western foreign policy blob, from the Atlantic Council, “To defeat Putin in a long war, Ukraine must switch to active defense in 2024”. Sorry, could not provide the link as B’s blog did not like it for some reason.
From Mykola Bielieskov who used to be with a Kiev think-tank, now with a Ukrainian charitable foundation, Come Back Alive. What the hell does he think Ukraine is currently doing?! This kind of garbage:

With this in mind, Ukraine’s military strategy for 2024 should focus on holding the front line and ensuring continued control over the approximately 82% of the country that remains in Ukrainian hands. A strategic shift to active defense would play to Ukraine’s current strengths while buying valuable time to regroup and rearm ahead of what are likely to be more advantageous conditions in 2025.
Crucially, a more defensive posture would allow Ukraine to exploit Moscow’s pressing need for victories. With the Russian army under huge political pressure to advance, Ukrainian commanders would have plenty of opportunities to steadily bleed out Putin’s invasion force, much as they are currently doing at Avdiivka.

It is Russia that is bleeding Ukraine 10:1 with its massive advantages in artillery, drones, aircraft, helicopters and tanks and it is only getting stronger! Yes, please Ukies stay in one place so that we can easily blow you the shit up! Utterly delusional. Russia is under no pressure for victories, it is happy to slowly bleed out Ukraine with low casualties. More utter crap!

Adopting an active defense in 2024 will not prevent Ukraine from conducting specific offensive actions. The most likely focus of Ukraine’s offensive operations during the coming year will be the Russian-occupied Crimean peninsula. This was confirmed by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in his recent interview with The Economist.

The offensive completely failed, there will be no more offensives against Crimea! Then this garbage:

Ukraine’s success in the Battle of the Black Sea has showcased the potency of Western weaponry when combined with the skill and ingenuity of the Ukrainian military. Further breakthroughs in Crimea and at sea in 2024 will hinge on the willingness of Ukraine’s partners to supply the necessary long-range missiles and other weapons.

The “Battle of the Black Sea” LMFAO, a few meaningless pin pricks does not a battle make! That the Atlantic Council publishes such drivel on its site shows just how pathetic its NATO overlords have become. And Mr. Bielieskov should perhaps move to writing phantasy novels.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 9 2024 2:02 utc | 213

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jan 8 2024 16:20 utc | 143
It shows how there is communication at high level between CIA and Putin.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 8 2024 15:02 utc | 135
First of all it clearly demonstartes that you are a liar, because the article by Simplicius says nothing of the kind. FSB or GRU communicating with the CIA behind the curtains? Might be. They have been doing this for decades, would do this now. Putin? In your wet dreams only, liar.

Another ill-mannered buffoon. Go to the article. Search for Putin. It’s right there:

But the key portion of the article, which comes next, is the admission that Biden dispatched CIA director Burns to Russia on the eve of the invasion in late 2021. They had been watching Russia’s troop buildups, and in essence sent Burns to deliver a final warning of consequences should Russia proceed with an invasion. Though Putin ended up “snubbing” the CIA head by staying in a Sochi resort and refusing to meet him in person, he did take his secure phone call from Sochi.
What comes next is the heart of the entire article and is one of the most significant and remarkable admissions of the entire war. It is a must read: https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67391189-89b2-4fa9-a75a-871839c1e4d2_1032x774.png [image file]
Read that several times to comprehend the gravity of it, as this one statement alone single handedly explains and encapsulates the entire dynamic of the war.

Not only did he mention that Putin had direct communication with CIA, he also maintains that this ‘encapsulates the entire dynamic of the war.’
So what is it Poslan1: are you a liar yourself as you so freely and ill-mannerly accuse others of being, or just a moron? It’s one or the other. (Or are you trying to gain street cred from some of the more childish trolls on this board?)
An apology of course would be nice but have learned that especially in anonymous forums people who exhibit bad manners never do so.
Presumably, those who do not value truth and honorable conduct in themselves do not value it in others and so, by their boorish conduct, deliberately contribute to our ongoing civilizational decline. Pity.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 2:08 utc | 214

@ karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:34 utc | 211 who asks

Is Weinstein’s confidence warranted?

I watched the short interview and couldn’t help but notice that the shots of Tucker that they went back to from the middle to the end of the Weinstein talk that mostly showed Weinstein had Tucker’s brow with a serious and constant furrow.
I expect you to have resonated with Weinstein’s call for people like yourself, him and other like our host Bernhard (who we have not read of and so need to send good energy to), to do what you can to tell the public what is really going on.
I agree that the medical community has been radicalized by Covid criminality and that they are intelligent but I am not as confident that community understands about our civilization war over public/private finance.
What I keep thinking is that the results of the Ukraine SMO and the Occupied Palestine Gaza genocide are going to result in a historic “moment of opportunity” for the nations of the West to throw off the jackboot of private finance. If our species is to evolve beyond barbaric patriarchy, it will be necessary for all nations to eventually deprecate private finance in favor of sovereign finance as a public utility. I would like that to happen quickly but expect I won’t live to see the end of private finance in our world but hope to see it lose its dominance.
So, lets see a Tucker Carlson/Michael Hudson interview, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 8 2024 22:23 utc | 195
Imagine that you are terror bombed daily and your government is either pretending it is not happening or just whining about it at the UN.

Thanks for sharing your perspective.
About ‘terror bombed daily’. How much of that stuff is going on? I don’t follow the kinetics but get the impression that they are scattered, sometimes a hit in Crimea, sometimes a drone on the Kremlin, occasionally a ship, occasionally a building. Is this a wrong impression? Is there ‘constant daily terror-bombing’? (Or is that just in Donetsk?)
The criticism from the patriot-conservative demographic is the voice of the people suffering wounds or loss of loved ones; for them this is not a geopolitical exercise but something raw and real. It certainly seems that for him the SMO is a pinning strategy, holding the Hegemon’s attention whilst the larger strategy is to undermine the West from within whilst changing the outer narrative wherein the West is no longer a moral or civilizational leader – a significant victory at the mind level of this ‘war’. There is more to be done on this front, but already much has been achieved.
The West’s Ruling Class uses conflict with monsters abroad to both hide their deficiencies whilst, under cover of emergencies, justify breaking the social contract and further entrenching a corrupt finance-fuelled plutocracy – making it almost child’s play for Putin to string them along.
However, real Russians are paying a heavy price for this. It is right that they object.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 2:34 utc | 216

SMO is a pinning strategy, holding the Hegemon’s attention whilst the larger strategy is to undermine the West from within ….
should be:
SMO is a pinning TACTIC, holding the Hegemon’s attention whilst the larger strategy is to undermine the West from within

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 2:39 utc | 217

karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 1:34 utc | 211
I watched the Carlson Weinstein – interview – just a bit of a comment before going to your link at 212. He was looking for individuals. The apex controller so to speak.
The problem I believe is much wider. A class of people. There is also the old saying of wealth is power which is very true and so there are those with wealth that are amongst or are the decision makers and then there are the wannabes that believe in them, the same as there were protests in Russia in support of the oligarchs when Putin was taking them down.
If wealth is power we have to look at Black Rock but that is not just one person then there are other centers of wealth in the west so more a cartel perhaps. How much profit did the likes of Pfizer make from covid? By my very rough estimates, at least 100 billion.
The collapse of the west will be far different to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Most of the current leadership of Russia went through Soviet schooling which was one of or the best in the world. It was only ten years of collapse before Putin came to power and put Russia back on its feet.
Western schooling has gone through a long period of dumbing down, starting perhaps in the seventies or eighties. More propaganda and less education. And this reinforced by some centuries of supremacy over other cultures.
At to that a western world operating on quarterly profits and election cycles. Add to that climate and gender ideology which has literally become a religion for many.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 9 2024 2:49 utc | 218

About ‘terror bombed daily’. How much of that stuff is going on? I don’t follow the kinetics but get the impression that they are scattered, sometimes a hit in Crimea, sometimes a drone on the Kremlin, occasionally a ship, occasionally a building. Is this a wrong impression? Is there ‘constant daily terror-bombing’? (Or is that just in Donetsk?)
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 2:34 utc | 216

Donetsk has been hit daily for two years.
Along the whole pre-war border it has been daily since May 2022.
That was ignored because it was small villages.
What is also ignored is the plight of the people close to the front in Kherson, who also get shelled regularly. Now with FPV drones too, just for fun.
Then the AFU actually destroyed most of Shebekino with Grad strikes in May 2023, and Shebekino is not a tiny village, but a 40,000 city. That was also ignored.
Now they brought the extended-range Czech Grad, the RM-70, and started hitting Belgorod city, beginning on the evening of December 29th (repelled), then the massacre on December 30th when several rounds got through, and it has been daily since then. Mostly repelled, but fragments fall down, and occasional shells go through, and there are injured people nearly every day. A Grad salvo is 40 small rockets, it is very hard to shoot all of those down. So unless something is done to stop this ASAP, it will be the new normal.
But Belgorod is definitely not a village, nor even a 40,000 town, but a half a million major city, and one of the more prosperous ones too.
Also, the Crimean bridge is currently working only half of the time. It gets closed due to missile launches towards Crimea several times every day. It has been constant such attacks the last ten days or so. The fact that you don’t even know about it shows you how normalized it has become.
P.S. IF Putin allows Belgorod to be terrorized like that, the next step is cruise missile attacks on Kursk, Bryansk, Voronezh, Tula, etc., eventually even Moscow.
If that gets normalized, one day there will be a massive such salvo and it won’t be conventional warheads, but nobody will launch a second strike before it’s too late because it will be assumed it is conventional, as it has been before.
For that reason, and also because several of the cities I listed above host a lot of very sensitive military industrial facilities which will be prime targets for missile attacks, the last conceivable red line is missiles flying towards pre-war Russia. That MUST be answered kinetically, otherwise Russia is finished.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 2:52 utc | 219

I was wiping my bottom today and it looked just like jewkrania. On second glance it looked like Washington…or Brussels…or London. Not sure what it matters…sheet is sheet. Get ready for oblivion.

Posted by: nook | Jan 9 2024 3:02 utc | 220

Yes, the vaunted Ukrainian air defense. That’s why RuMoD published a video today of using unguided bombs in the Kremmenya direction.
Of course Ukraine still has air defenses. And with the full signit potential of NATO on its side it remains a formidable adversary for Russia. But every day one side is attrited to a degree the other is not. Those mathematics are exponential over time.

Posted by: Lex | Jan 9 2024 3:18 utc | 221

I just heard an exciting rumor while I was sleeping. In a stunningly brilliant move Netanyahu and Zelenskyy have hit on the stratagem of thwarting their political opponents, and their nation’s electoral laws, by agreeing to support each other as they run for the job that each of them currently holds.
As a Jew Zelenskky has the right of return, and so as an Israeli citizen can become Prime Minister. Unlike Netanyahu, he has no criminal record, nor is he under investigation, in Israel, so it will be clear sailing for him, especially as he will be bringing along a battalion of Azov “advisors” to help convince Likud party officials to back him.
Netanyahu as President of Ukraine would have the benefit of his Rolodex full of names of people in Washington to call, and all the files Jeffrey Epstein gave him to use as motivation.The money would soon start rolling in again to Kiev.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 4:24 utc | 222

From https://unherd.com/?p=487346

:Russia has had to abandon three centuries of efforts to identify with Europe and instead pivot to China, India, the Islamic world and Africa.”

Which is where it always belonged. Europe always viewed Russia with hatred, racism and contempt. So much so that the first Neandertal skeleton ever discovered, which belonged to a deformed individual, was at first identified as that of a Russian soldier.

“Reconciliation with a seriously alienated European Union will not come easily, if at all. Russia may not have lost on the battlefield or been weakened or strategically isolated, but it has incurred huge opportunity costs.”

Why would Russia want “reconciliation” with the decrepit and American-enslaved Europistani Union, which has repeatedly betrayed Russia? What possible value does Europistan, well on the way to resuming is historic place as a destitute irrelevant backwater, bring to Russia? Why should Russia, given the choice of engaging with the East, which does not hate it, choose the disintegrating and backstabbing west?

“Russia’s armed forces have proven unable to conquer Ukraine, still less the rest of Europe….Russia, in the meantime, has been educated in how to combat American weapons systems and has developed effective counters to them. It has been militarily strengthened, not weakened.”

It is generally a good idea to read over your article before posting to make sure you’re not contradicting yourself.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:27 utc | 223

@shadowbanned 219
The Crimean bridge is not used for military traffic. Even if it were closed down totally it would have no effect at all.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:34 utc | 224

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 2:52 utc | 219
For that reason, and also because several of the cities I listed above host a lot of very sensitive military industrial facilities which will be prime targets for missile attacks, the last conceivable red line is missiles flying towards pre-war Russia. That MUST be answered kinetically, otherwise Russia is finished.

Thank you for that thorough reply. It sounds much worse than I thought. I don’t follow the kinetics partly because there is just too much along a huge front and partly because most of what is out there is incomplete, disinformation, misleading or I misinterpret it not being a military person. (I also don’t follow any of the stuff on the ground in Gaza – the only video I watched there was a military person holding open a gap in the Gaza wall for Hamas personnel in fatigues to go through on motorcycles on Oct 7 – maybe; maybe it was something entirely different.) In any case, your description sounds far more extensive than my admittedly vague impression.
I was a great fan of Putin before covid which raised questions for me about many things, including multipolarism etc. Am not sure what else he could or should have done and certainly don’t think he is primarily to blame, but the loss of about 100,000 young Russians and 500,000 Ukrainian almost-Russians represents failure on his part along with all other leaders involved. That said, evil was spreading from the West which has been taken over by demonic psychopaths enabled by a dumbed down, disoriented and fragmented citizenry. These things usually don’t get sorted out without death and disaster; sadly, I think we are still only at the beginning and things will get far worse before they begin to get better.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 4:34 utc | 225

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 2:08 utc | 214

And you are lying again because the quote you provided does not mean anything what you claim Simplicius says, that there is “It shows how there is communication at high level between CIA and Putin.”
Double down all you want, liar, it does not change the fact that you are deliberately distorted someone else’s words to prove your own agenda.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jan 9 2024 4:58 utc | 226

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 4:24 utc | 222
Bravo! Thanks for the laugh.
Apparent the streets of Kiev are flooded by “brown” water. Just like the verbal diarrhea spewing from the likes of Shadowbrain and cohorts.
This is wrong thread, but cross over episodic.
“Also Monday, the Axios news site reported that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed rebuffed a request from Netanyahu for Abu Dhabi to pay unemployment benefits to the Palestinian workers who Israel has refused to allow to return to their jobs since the Gaza-ruling Hamas terror group’s onslaught on October 7.
“Ask Zelensky for money,” bin Zayed reportedly told Netanyahu, sarcastically suggesting that the Ukrainian president could foot the bill with all of the international support Kyiv has been getting since Russia’s invasion.” – https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-brass-said-to-warn-political-leaders-that-west-bank-on-brink-of-violent-eruption/
Looks like other head of states are trying out their comedic chops.
NATO’s weak attempt at war, proxy or otherwise is pure farce.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2024 5:17 utc | 227

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 8 2024 22:53 utc | 200
Call me an optimist, karlof1, but I enjoyed your summation at the end of the substack you have compiled here. I wasn’t able to access all the parts of the Christmas video from Putin’s gathering with the young people families affected by loss during the SMO but what I saw during and after the Christmas service was beautiful in its simplicity and intimacy.
I myself just before Christmas was watching an ‘old’ movie – a Harrison Ford as president on Air Force One leaving Russia, the pilot thanking Moscow. Old? From another era? Well, I hadn’t seen it before,so kept looking for a nasty subliminal corporate message. Maybe I’m just a sucker, but there they were, actors with familiar faces and they were saying all the right things.
Of course, movie stuff, high drama, but family values, Constitutional issues being debated, respect for a Kennedy type actively involved leader vs. terrorists and a sympathetic Russian leader with a defense secretary eager to one up the presidential authority — made me cry, because that was the world we were supposed to be in. Nothing about MAGA; instead, cooperation with the then Soviets, what this country thought it ought to be, daughter proud of her father, air force working with leadership . . .
Those are real values we have lost, but I thank God Russia has them. Young people proud of their parents, missing the ones who have sacrificed for them. Eager to achieve. Love of country. We had that once. And it wasn’t so long ago.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 9 2024 5:21 utc | 228

psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215–
Peter AU1 | Jan 9 2024 2:49 utc | 218–
Thanks for your replies. I looked for the entire interview and found that plus a transcript that all can be read here, “Bret Weinstein/Tucker Carlson Interview.
Yes, power and control but far more.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 9 2024 5:55 utc | 229

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2024 5:17 utc | 227
I’m glad you got a laugh, and thank you for the compliment.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 6:12 utc | 230

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin
#207
>>Immediately prior to the shock announcement that Secretary of Defense Austin was in critical condition in a hospital intensive care unit, this report notes, Russia conducted massive missile strikes throughout Ukraine, after which it was reported: “Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was allegedly killed in Kyiv on January 3
>>As to why the British intelligence services would release propaganda about Secretary of Defense Austin being killed by a Russian missile strike…
Given how much our government lies about stuff, it is possible that Austin got injured in Ukraine, shipped back to the United States, and then put into intensive care. That would account for the late reporting of his condition: they didn’t want to report that he got injured in Ukraine. Thus somebody had to invent a cover story and they didn’t decide what to report quickly. One wonders how Lieutenant General Valerii Zaluzhnyi is doing.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 9 2024 6:18 utc | 231

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 9 January 2024; pub. 06:58📍
🎯 Over the past day, the RF Armed Forces launched a massive missile attack on the territory of the #Kharkov, #Khmelnitsky, #Zhitomir, #Dnepropetrovsk, and #Zaporozhye regions. Strategic aviation and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles were used. The main targets were military industrial facilities. By nightfall, ground-based missile strikes were repeated in the #Kharkov region, and powerful explosions were reported in the region. In public reports, the Air Defense Forces of the AFU began to note that most targets could not be shot down.
▪️ In the #Kherson direction, the exchange of artillery strikes and the destruction of the AFU landing force in #Krynki continues. Once again, during the crossing, enemy boats with manpower were destroyed.
▪️ On the #Zaporozhye front near #Verbovoye, a group of enemy infantry was destroyed; the actions of the parties are complicated by deteriorating weather conditions: cold weather and wet snow. Our aviation operated FABs with UMPC in the #Orekhovsky section.
▪️ In the #Kurakhovo direction, the RF Armed Forces are pushing through the enemy’s defenses in #Georgiyevka, moving from #Maryinka. To the south, near #Novomikhaylovka, the enemy announced that he had managed to push back our troops at the village.
▪️ In #Avdeyevka sector, on the southern ledge of the front, in #Pervomayskoye, our troops are conducting active operations, trying to advance in the populated area. Fighting is reported east of the Coke Plant.
▪️ In the direction of Chasov Yar, the “creeping” offensive of our troops continues. The enemy has retreated to the outskirts of #Bogdanovka in the north (? southwest) of the direction. At the settlement of #Khromovo, the enemy is resisting stubbornly.
💥 Enemy strikes against the civilian population of the #Belgorod region continued. In the regional capital, after an MLRS strike, three wounded civilians and damage to residential buildings were reported. The town of #Shebekino was shelled. In the #Bryansk region, the village of #Lemeshovka, Sevsky district, was under attack by the AFU; households and cars were damaged. Two aircraft-type UAVs were destroyed over the Klimovsky district. In the #DPR, in #Gorlovka, a woman born in 1961 was wounded.
🎬 The “poultry houses” were identified and destroyed. Our UAV crew identified the opponents, and for this we spent several days in reconnaissance. We found the take-off point, the escape route, and, in fact, the “bird’s nest” itself.👇

https://t.me/sitreports/20773

Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:27 utc | 232

There are rumors that squabbling is intensifying within the country, since Bankovaya wants to control everything in the country before the crisis worsens and the mood of protest against Zelensky and Ermak matures even more.
The attack now on the “Sorosyat” oligarch Fiala is a bad step for Ze, which may escalate if the parties do not agree. Bankova may go too far and receive a complete refusal from the West to support Kyiv, which will lead to defeat.
Based on gossip, they attacked Fiala, because the OP is afraid of the Maidan, which the Soros kids can organize. They wrote a long time ago that the Soros were fighting for portfolios, which the OP really didn’t like.

https://t.me/ZE_kartel/8203

Bankova’s attack on the Sorosyat oligarch and the owner of an entire pool of Ukrainian top media is a game by Zelensky and Ermak to neutralize the threat of Maidan-3 from the Sorosites and Western partners. We have been talking about this for a long time.
The Office of the President even conducts surveillance on everyone who competes with them and is a danger to them. They even tried to plant a bug on Zaluzhny.
Political bickering in the country will intensify. The main beneficiary of these swings and purges are Ze and Ermak, who are afraid of losing power.
Everyone knows that Ze has developed paranoia, that they want to dump him, and he suspects everyone of this.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17027

Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:52 utc | 233

The Ukrainian authorities fulfilled the next demand of the IMF; no one cares about the fact that the war is in full swing, and 80% of citizens are below the poverty line!
The Cabinet of Ministers lifted the moratorium on turning off electricity and charging fines to Ukrainians for utility debts.
The corresponding resolution was adopted by the government on December 29.
The exception applies only to active combat zones.
“In the occupied territories, it is prohibited to charge fees for housing and communal services starting from the date of occupation,” the resolution says.
There is an increase in tariffs for housing and communal services ahead, which is also being pushed by the IMF! Western help to our country comes down to one thing – impose taxes and tariffs on Ukrainians!

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21120

Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:54 utc | 234

Posted by: scanalyse | Jan 8 2024 15:48 utc | 140
No problem

Posted by: Down South | Jan 9 2024 6:58 utc | 235

@208
„This not having been done is a purely political decision. Which has cost the lives of many thousands of Russians…“
U nailed it!
Kremlin is occupied by traitors!

Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 7:06 utc | 236

@NemesisCalling – 56
“All the back and forth about ww2 seems to point to the greater question that is being pried out from hiding by Russian intervention into the Borderlands: that is, what is the west at this moment? How can we identify it and with what terminology?
Communists will say that the west is fascism or end-stage capitalism which is what they seem to correlate. But this begs the question: why did the west choose to annihilate the National Socialists who, according to communist logic, are a mirror image to advanced-capitalism which the liberal west embodied at the same time? Why didn’t the two capitalist entities (the west and the Nazis) team up to annihilate the Soviets?
As a person who tries to work through problems, I have offered up an answer to this question already in a prior post: simply, these two capitalist powers were warring mafiosa families and the west thought it better to secure western Europe and take on the Soviet Power after the other mafiosa family (the Nazis) had been eliminated.
But the answer above to this question (why did the west go after the Nazis instead of the communists?) only brings about the next question: if we are talking about warring mafiosa families, we can not say then that they are proper exemplars of fascist/late-stage capitalism ideology at all,for these powers must exhibit unifying thread where they would have identified each other as an ally similarly to the depiction of the pod people in the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. When one would come into contact with another, they could recognize each other via perhaps an ultrasonic frequency. Ideology, then, was not a uniting force between the west and the Nazis. But the Nazis did absorb many statelets into its fold similar to the pod people method of group ideology/belonging.
This throws a light onto the west. What is it if it can not be fascistic or National-Socialist?
The answer I believe we can find from Martin Heidegger who identified both the Soviets and the modern west as being utilitarian to the absolute detriment of Dasein or the individual’s “being-here.” He points towards technicity as a force that is not a tool nor can be appropriately harnessed by man. For instance: the urge to develop greater and greater means for killing humans seemingly can not be stopped. And no, Heidegger put forth that neither the Americans nor the Soviets had the ability to manage this driving power that is bringing us to cataclysm through the route of utilitarianism.
Again: his interview with Der Spiegel “Only a God can save us” is a great place to start once you are at this point in your thinking.”
Answer:
* Key here is that DECEPTION is a pillar in warfare.
– Sun Tzu’s proverbs in the Art of War will clarify a lot of your questions!
– Warfare AGAINST HUMANITY would thus involve “false flagging” operations and a “controlled opposition”.
– The Axis (& Japan) were controlled opposition (of the ancient Illuminated elites) due to Germany’s central geographical position (Japan’s position is strategic in a defensive sense similar to Great Britain’s).
– The more multi facetted you/Illuminated ancient elites make it seem in existential form, the more deceptive.
– Generals never move without proper (material) arrangements and (immaterial) preparation.
– The difference between tactics and strategy is that the former is the means to win a battle whereas strategy is how you win the war, and which may require to lose a battle.
– Accordingly, the Germans and Italians were sacrificed.
* The End Goal of the 2 (!) “warring mafiosa families” was thus not WWI nor WWII but WWIII
– The GWB adminsitration called WWIII “The 70 Year War/The Long War”.
http://www.ourladyisgod.com/i-third-secret-of-fatima-wwiii.php
– They use Hegelian Dialectics to bring about gradual changes —> stealth = deception.
* The “unifying” thread between the “mafiosa families” is their Extra Terrestrial genealogical origin.
* Hindu scriptures (+5000 year old) explain that the 2 families are:
– The Naga Serpent led Alliance —> Feudal Trinity in ALL parts of the world (incl. Maya, Inca, Aztec).
– The Rakshasa Serpent race —> Banker led Mercantilists/Liberals in ALL parts of the world.
– Feudalists controlled the land —> static.
– Bankers/Mercantilists control the crafts, trades and communication/distribution —> movement.
– Movement is a pillar in warfare.
* Key difference between the 2 “mafiosa families” is their (spiritual) philosophies:
– Feudalists are Kabbalists.
– Liberals are Talmudists/Qabbalists.
– Together they are the Cabal and who internally compete but are united against Humanity.
– Ideology merely serves as a material veil —> matter is given and hence cannot be veiled.
– Spiritual = etheric = metaphysical = electromagnetism = generative Force and Consciousness of the Universe = Heideger’s “Dasein”.
– Cosmic Reason/Universal Consciousness = Dasein.
* Hindu scriptures explain that Humanity are children of the 600 million Apsaras = Castless —> who were born out of a “milkbath” = genetically created, and who they call the “prostitutes”.
* Russia/Soviet Union experienced:
– February Revolution of 1917 —> which probably was Talmudic —> they who killed the royal Romanov family.
– October Revolution of 1917 —> which probably was Kabbalist.
– Lenin was probably a Kabbalist and was sponsored by $20 million (way over $480 million today).
– Bolsheviks claimed the gold came from the Catalan Spanish revolutionaries… But how could Barcelona’s workers TODAY afford to gift $480 million, never mind 1917 Catalan peasants…
– Gold sponsor was the Rothschilds in Swizerland and Lenin’s train was allowed to pass through warring Germany during WWI…
– Stalin was a Kabbalist – and very pious/humble with material possession according to true spiritual beings.
– Trotskij – as Stalin’s nemesis – was thence probably a Talmudist.
– Trotskij was sponsored by the Rockefellers who then were the right hand of the Rothschild dynasty in the Americas (today it’s George Soros).
* Sun Tzu explains the above (paraphrasing):
– “The Acme of Skill is not to imperil the enemy in 100 battles out of 100. The Acme of Skill is to imperil the enemy without him even knowing.”
– How?
– From within.
– If you’re an Extra Terrestrial you breed yourself in among the Apsaras so to look Human…
– And by controlling not only one side —> Nazis or Fascists or Liberal Capitalist or Feudalist —> but ALL sides including the Communists & Anarchists.
– You definitely control the Green Parties —> think Germany —> Anna-Lena Baerbok & Olaf Scholz —> belicose against Russia.
– Side note: today’s Moscow, Beijing, Tehran Axis of Resistance, Cuba, North Korea, 6 Latin American countries of ALBA incl. Venezuela are truly ANTI-Hegemonic nations.
* The West is Fascist in the New Age sense = Liberalism 3.0
– Walter Benjamin noticed the promotion of the “Fascist aesthetic”
– In 2021 the coin fell…
– Fascist aesthetic = New Age conception of “Love” = positive vibration (and nothing but).
– Fascist aesthetic = “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. A Law of will, will under love.”
– In 2019 the Illuminati (Talmudists + Kabbalists = Extra Terrestrial bloodlines, i.e. “star seeds”) reprogrammed the Constitution & Law of the Universe (I’ve whistle blown about this but mass media has a gag on us all…).
– Fascist aesthetic is now Cosmic/Natural Law.
– Fascist aesthetic = Do what thou wilt IF and only IF you vibrate positively (>250Hz).
– Fascist aesthetic = narcissist driven sociopathy = modus operandi of Modernity (albeit subtle due to Hegemonic presence within all of us).
* Monist Cosmic Matrix (Constitution + Law) of 2019 = Solipsist Moral Nihilist Utilitarian Hedonist.
– Cosmic Constitution of 2019 is Monist = quantum (computer) = 11 positive realms (all negative emotion & throught is now ILLEGAL).
– Cosmic Constitution up to 2019 was Dualist = dual core (computer) = 7 positive realms of Yang + 7 negatie HELLISH realms of Ying.
– Fascist aesthetic = utilitarianism = maximization of happiness/positive vibration for YOU whatever the cost…
– If Your happines means you have to wipe out Humanity in nuclear WWIII then Cosmic/Natural Law of 2019 has your back!
* We have the means to steer us away from the driving force of hedonism;
– OneSmallTown.org
– OneSmallTown.org/tokens
= both grass roots organizing method & payment method backed by Human equity! (not FIAT/Bitcoin/inflative gold)

Posted by: rockwool | Jan 9 2024 8:27 utc | 237

💸 Ukrainian media report that citizens are massively closing their bank cards and withdrawing all the money from their accounts.
All this is happening ahead of the adoption of the law on increased mobilisation, which the Ukrainian parliament is expected to pass on January 9 or 10. The law will impose financial and property restrictions for evaders, including the freezing of bank accounts and cards.
@ukraine_watch

The economy in Ukraine is vaporizing. There is nothing more left in the economy than bribes. The government rats have left the sinking ship, Klitschko himself owns two luxury apartments in Hamburg, and more recently the subcontractor of soft supplies (food etc.) for AFU has been buying luxury hotels in Croatia.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 8:39 utc | 238

More…

A rear colonel sent 170 million hryvnia, intended for food for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to the companies of his wife, mother-in-law and father-in-law.
Afterwards, all the money was withdrawn from accounts and through Khmelnitsky ATMs.
Now the head of the central department of food supply for the rear of the Command of the Logistics Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel Alexander Kozlovsky, has become a defendant in a criminal case. The investigation is being conducted by the State Bureau of Investigation.
@ukr_leaks_eng
“>https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/8918

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 9:11 utc | 239

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 1:10 utc | 208

Ukie air defense successes are exaggerated but the trend is unmissable. Ukies have less and less AD capabilities.
Russia should overwhelm existing Ukie AD systems particularly in Kyiv and Lviv before sending in swarms of Ka-52s and Su-25s to annihilate Ukie tanks, HIMARS launchers, troops and IFVs.
Glad to see Russia has restarted attacking Ukie railway tracks that can both disrupt fast weapons and troop transport and create bottlenecks that can be busted by the VKS.
Posted by: Jason | Jan 8 2024 23:44 utc | 205

Yeah, unfortunately, none of that is objectively true.
The last time RU sent planes over Ukrainian territory was the first weeks of the war. It has been totally off limits since then.
And the Ukronazis have in fact gained capabilities in the last year. Were they downing Russian planes over Russian territory previously? No. Now it happened twice (over Bryansk in May and in December over Kherson). Sure, we can talk about those being one-off well planned ambushes, etc, but the fact is that they did happen. Whatever legacy S-300s they had didn’t have the range to do it, the latest Patriots they have been give do have it. Objective fact.
Airspace is off limits to such an extent that Russia is not even sending UCAVs to bomb trains and other key rear targets.
When is it going to open up sufficiently for UCAVs to be able to do that? Likely never, the place is so infested with old Soviet and more modern NATO mobile air defense units and with MANPADs that it is impossible to clear them all any time soon.

He CISPO – you again…
I assume you are referring, among other things, to 3 Su-34 from 22.12.23
you missed the downed Tu-22M3 from 29.12.23
or is this lie of your colleagues too primitive even for you ?
btw there are even another pair of downed Su-34/30 on 24.12.2024 — about which even Z fabulated
( https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1739266492766601617 )
you quoted fighter_bomber about the incident on 22.12.23 — why not also quote fighter_bomber about the fake on 24.12.23
Fighterbomber from 25.12.2023 | 06:56
“…No Su-30 and Su-34 Ukrainians yesterday and today did not shoot down…”
about infested Airspace:
are GLBM, GLCM, ALBM, ALCM, FPV drones, shaheds, lancets … not enough, so you have to introduce UCAVs ?

Posted by: ghiwen | Jan 9 2024 9:54 utc | 240

Posted by: ghiwen | Jan 9 2024 9:54 utc | 240
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 1:10 utc | 208
Obviously, the way airstrikes, especially with gliding bombs work is usually the aircraft have to take more or less same routes to the releasing points. Naato will always make notes what route they are flying, and when it becomes routine enough, AFU can sneak in an AD system closer to the front and manage a sneak attack the next time AC makes a bombing run. Like for example in Krynky.
The problem is the same it was from beginning of SMO. Nato AWACS aircraft can act as the flying radar feeding data into some netcentric network. This enables AFU S-300 or Patriot PAC-3 to keep their active radar off, and thus avoid detection. What is the solution to Nato AWACS? There might not be any solutions, for now, RUAF is simply sucking it up with occasional ambushes (I wouldn’t say this is a serious problem now). And they can hope to occasionally locate and hit some of those PAC-3s or IRIS-T which occasionally are brought forward (much closer to front). I believe there was a Lancet strike or two on IRIS-T systems within the last 30 days in Kherson area.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 10:07 utc | 241

… Nato AWACS aircraft can act as the flying radar …
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2024 10:07 utc | 241

https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15320

Actually a screenshot of the Virage-Tablet air situation system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
I already wrote about it, I’ll add some notation.
Pink circles with a white stripe are airfields with an approximate takeoff and landing course and landing sites.
Red airplanes with sticks coming out of their noses. – air targets. They can be any air object. Plane, helicopter, rocket – fuck it.
Stick from the nose – vector of target movement.
Blue airplanes are aircraft that the Ukrainian Armed Forces consider theirs. It could be an airship, a sports or military transport aircraft, or the ass of an average Ukrainian flying into orbit.
The numbers in brackets next to the airplanes are the commander’s call signs or target numbers.
What does (a), (p) I xs mean.
The boundaries highlighted in blue are areas of responsibility.
The dotted line is a hotel, or in other words, a “ribbon”.
Below the stat. Cursor coordinates in two systems. Relief height, magnetic declination, number of targets being tracked.
Something like this.
I don’t claim to be true, but in my opinion it is so.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 10:19 utc | 242

Thank you for that thorough reply. It sounds much worse than I thought. I don’t follow the kinetics partly because there is just too much along a huge front and partly because most of what is out there is incomplete, disinformation, misleading or I misinterpret it not being a military person. (I also don’t follow any of the stuff on the ground in Gaza – the only video I watched there was a military person holding open a gap in the Gaza wall for Hamas personnel in fatigues to go through on motorcycles on Oct 7 – maybe; maybe it was something entirely different.) In any case, your description sounds far more extensive than my admittedly vague impression.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 9 2024 4:34 utc | 225

Interesting that you say you were not aware of the real situation.
That might explain the attitudes of many here, that I am continuously baffled by. They may simply not have the information either. Now that I think about it, the usual pro-Russian Western sources don’t spend much, or really, any time discussing these things, and if they do, they just brush it off.
I saw The Duran the other day discussing what Russia would do when the cruise missile strikes against pre-war Russian territory start, and their consensus was that they will just suck it up and continue doing what they are doing, which is “winning on the ground”. Yes, that was the expert conclusion.
Of course, there is no “winning on the ground” to be seen at the moment — they can’t even take Sinkovka, Novomikhailovka and Stepovo above Avdeevka, let alone Kupyansk, Avdeevka, or Chasov Yar. And it is all because of sucking it up and allowing the AFU to be rearmed.
Now they will start taking hits on their core military bases and industrial facilities and that will be no problem? What world are these bozos living in?
And this isn’t even the major problem, the really big issue here is, for the 2343543654th time, that if you accept missiles being lobbed at you, one day they may not be conventional, but you will not respond, having being accustomed to not responding because these have all been conventional missiles, thus inviting a first strike. Which has been discussed many, many times in the past, by Putin himself, and by some Western analysts, scarce as they are (Ray McGovern seems to know his nuclear war game theory, but most of the commentariat is clueless).
This is such obvious boiling of the frog to death. The only way to prevent it is to jump out of the cauldron on time.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 10:49 utc | 243

There is yet no courage in Russia to declare a total war.
But Ukraine does not lack this courage. They are mobilizing 50000 women, and maybe a million men says Dima.
Russia cannot defeat such a huge army.
At least I cannot see how such a huge army with total western support can be defeated. So phrases such as “Ukraine is finished” are unfortunately not true.
Russia needs to learn from Israel.

Posted by: zorge | Jan 9 2024 11:38 utc | 244

Zorge 244: “At least I cannot see how such a huge army with total western support can be defeated.” – The combat deployment of so many people leads to such a high demand for goods that it can only be made possible through war economy. Which country in the West will be the first to put all its industry at the service of Ukraine ??? Exactly, none.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 11:47 utc | 245

Zorge 244: “At least I cannot see how such a huge army with total western support can be defeated.” – The combat deployment of so many people leads to such a high demand for goods that it can only be made possible through war economy. Which country in the West will be the first to put all its industry at the service of Ukraine ??? Exactly, none.
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 11:47 utc | 245

Germany would be the first. Germans are ready to sacrifice everything for this war. Almost two-thirds of Germans in the survey expressed a desire for current German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to hand over his post during the current legislative period to current Defence Minister Boris Pistorius.
Germans want a war leader, a soldier-Chancellor.
Poland would be the next.
The whole EU would follow.
Ukrainians would not need much, all these women eat less them man soldiers.

Posted by: zorge | Jan 9 2024 12:02 utc | 246

Posted by: scanalyse | Jan 8 2024 15:48 utc | 140
Likewise, no problem.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/44614

First attack of the Shahid jet: It flew to the middle of Ukraine at a speed of more than 500 km/h.
Enemy resources write about this with alarm:
“The first photos of parts of the Shahed kamikaze jet UAV (probably 238) on the territory of Ukraine. The first Iranian gasoline version had the index “M”, while the jet version has the index “MJ” (jet).”

https://t.me/milinfolive/114002

Most recently, the Shahed-238, which is a jet version of the well-known Shahed-136, was demonstrated at an exhibition in Iran.
The new Shaheds with jet engines fly faster, which in the long term means a significant reduction in the fire efficiency of Ukrainian mobile air defense groups armed with machine guns and small-caliber anti-aircraft guns.
The year had barely begun, and already new North Korean missiles and new Iranian drones were flying. What a year of new things.

https://t.me/milinfolive/114000

It is reported that the photo shows a unified planning and correction module (UMPC), which was given to the enemy in its entirety.

https://t.me/milinfolive/114017

A spent RBK-500 cassette with UMPC, found by Ukrainian soldiers.
It seems that the bomb worked normally, since at the crash site there are no submunitions that fell out of the burst hull; the RBK-500 itself does not have a tail section, from where they are fired when approaching the target.

https://t.me/milinfolive/113999

It is reported that a respected partner, France, can supply Ukraine (or has already supplied) another 85 Scalp-EG aircraft cruise missiles, in addition to the previously supplied 50 missiles transferred in 2023. source: @bmpd_cast

(After which there are the Taurus cruise missiles, 910 if the Wikipedia info is correct)

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 12:14 utc | 247

@zorge | Jan 9 2024 12:02 utc | 246
But what is your problem? Let Ukr send women. Let EU countries send any weapons they want. I’m pro sending back refugees, directly to the front line, both men and women. 10k-20k per month is very doable by train. Since I’m generous, those willing to donate an organ can delay the front line by one year.

Posted by: rk | Jan 9 2024 12:17 utc | 248

Germany would be the first. Germans are ready to sacrifice everything for this war. Almost two-thirds of Germans in the survey expressed a desire for current German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to hand over his post during the current legislative period to current Defence Minister Boris Pistorius.
Germans want a war leader, a soldier-Chancellor.
Posted by: zorge | Jan 9 2024 12:02 utc | 246

Bullshit!
Half of the Germans don’t even want to send weapons to Ukraine.
The Party of Scholz and Pistorius is down to 17%.
You confuse the Germans with the German Establishment.

Posted by: schkid | Jan 9 2024 12:32 utc | 249

psychohistorian | Jan 9 2024 2:11 utc | 215
*** What I keep thinking is that the results of the Ukraine SMO and the Occupied Palestine Gaza genocide are going to result in a historic “moment of opportunity” for the nations of the West to throw off the jackboot of private finance. If our species is to evolve beyond barbaric patriarchy, it will be necessary for all nations to eventually deprecate private finance in favor of sovereign finance as a public utility. I would like that to happen quickly but expect I won’t live to see the end of private finance in our world but hope to see it lose its dominance.***
If those who scream “anti-semitic” when the matter of money reform — debt-free money creation — is raised, are discredited into silence by their own war on Palestine (though which their true nature is indisputably exposed), that would be a major advance.
A major barrier to reform / replacement would be removed.
Even so, the big lie of Thatcher’s time — basically, that State and household finances operate the same way — will persist. With it, the false assertion that “there is no alter
Yet blatantly in front of the public is the USA’s prodigious debt … if like a household’s economy, the USA should be so broke as to be incapable of anything much at all.
But thanks to establishment mass-media and cartelisation of political control, that fact is still not allowed to trash the corporate owned drivel cultishly presenting itself as present day “orthodox” economics.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 9 2024 13:04 utc | 250

@ schkid | Jan 9 2024 12:32
I think 80% of East Germans are against delivery of weapons against russian army.
Danke für Ihren Beitrag.

Posted by: Oberbayer | Jan 9 2024 13:11 utc | 251

More:
https://t.me/readovkanews/72125

An explosion was heard in Orel
. Presumably, an explosion occurred in the Orelnefteprodukt area. Eyewitnesses share photographs showing a column of smoke rising from the explosion site. There have been no official statements on this matter.

https://t.me/readovkanews/72126

Two UAVs fell on a fuel and energy facility in Oryol – Governor of the Oryol region Andrey Klychkov Emergency services are working
at the scene , the situation is under control, and the fire has been localized.

https://t.me/readovkanews/72128

❗️Three people were injured as a result of a UAV attack on fuel and energy facilities in Orel – Governor Andrei Klychkov.
All of them suffered moderate harm to their health, they are now receiving medical care. Two people refused hospitalization.

This isn’t even directly adjacent to the border, it’s beyond Kursk and Bryansk…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 13:48 utc | 252

Apparent the streets of Kiev are flooded by “brown” water. Just like the verbal diarrhea spewing from the likes of Shadowbrain and cohorts.
Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2024 5:17 utc | 227
Lucky for them that RF is playing nice, imagine some geraniums with cholera…
They’d literally shit themselves

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 9 2024 13:51 utc | 253

re: “Guaranteed RF will take Kharkov and Odessa ..”
Posted by: | Jan 7 2024
RF’s Black Sea fleet has had its balls kicked by a country with no navy.

Posted by: CommiesGoFY | Jan 9 2024 13:52 utc | 254

https://www.southfront.press/breaking-kiev-is-shelling-russian-civilians-in-belgorod-with-czech-made-vampire-mlrs/
Shаdοwbanned | Jan 8 2024 19:52 utc | 168 reviews a sequence of eight events which challenge that Russia is a superpower, and that explain why the civilians in Belgorod think Putin is a clown? <==and==>
Then ryanggg | Jan 8 2024 20:14 utc | 169 picks-out three of those reasons to show the Kemlin is semitic.. ?
Then:shаdοwbanned | Jan 8 2024 21:53 utc | 190 says something like External forces are promoting bottom-up anger inside Russia against Putin. The anger is expressed in the view that Putin’s is chicken shit. Putin’s unwillingness to defend Russian interest against Westernized nation state intrusions may bring Putin down.
“Then Shadowbanned explains the west is crossing Russian Red lines, in order to make Russians unhappy with Putin.”
<=i think the above comments supports a question pertinent to the discussion: If Russia, China and Iran are so strong, why do they not defend their red line interest "against infringement by the internationally organized westernized nations when such nations attack them? Although Russian, China + Iran are against the Israeli infringement on Gaze, Palestine none of the three have put forth any force to contain the City of London controlled westernized states. <=IMO, This "easternized indifference to western infringements of red line is worthy of in depth study. I think Easternized indifference happens because those in control of the Easternized nation states care about the populations they govern. Justpassinby | Jan 8 2024 22:53 utc | 199 says Easternized nations cannot control westernized propaganda. Suggesting its not the strength of the army that defines international power but control over public opinion. The influence provided by westernized propaganda machinery far exceeds superior armed strengths of the Easternized nations? <=This suggest the people involved in designing, producing and distributing propaganda have made themselves legitimate targets for kinetic offensives. Hitting the HQs of news agencies and propaganda developers with rockets may no longer be off limit; because these people are no longer civilians, they have become belligerents? but then shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 2:52 utc | 219 argues "the last conceivable red line ...MUST be answered kinetic ally, otherwise Russia is finished." <=what bothers me is that maybe Russia is preparing to respond to the many red line infringements all at once, in a single blow? Babel-17 | Jan 9 2024 4:24 utc | 222 ads sex as weapon of warfare,, So we have sex, propaganda, and kinetics. Rockwool @ 237 responds to NemesisCalling - 56 argument that the question is What is the West at this Moment? Maybe two mafia families competing with each other? Posted by: schkid | Jan 9 2024 12:32 utc | 249 you confuse the Germans with the German Establishment. <=yes those in control of westernized nation states do not give a hoot about those the state governs. the City of London is in control.

Posted by: snake | Jan 9 2024 14:07 utc | 255

https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/28313

Russia has an advantage in electronic warfare with Ukraine – Financial Times
Russia is increasingly using electronic warfare to disrupt HIMARS missiles and Excalibur artillery shells. Electronic warfare is also used to simulate missile and drone launches to confuse Ukrainian air defense systems and determine their location.
The commander of a Ukrainian drone unit said “electronic warfare duels” with Russian troops were brutal and merciless. He described them as “invisible scissors that cut off communication.”

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/97949

🛸💥🇺🇦 Russian Forces use tricks, playing gunfire sounds recordings from drones to make Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers believe they are under attack, prompting them to leave trenches and expose their positions, according to NYT
Russian fighters force Ukrainian Armed Forces to retreat, abandon equipment, and positions.
The widespread use of FPV drones by the Russian army has mainly led Ukrainian Armed Forces to abandon vehicles in the front-line areas and operate on foot.

https://t.me/rybar/55731

🇹🇷🇺🇦 Colleagues from the Istanbul Wolf again raised the issue of the low efficiency of the Turkish “Bayraktars” on the so-called. Ukraine. And it’s hard to disagree with this, because their use has been reduced to a minimum in recent weeks.
If previously they were spotted at least every day with six to ten devices in the air along the LBS for targeting artillery and kamikaze drones, now there are even fewer of them: even the intensity of their flights over the Black Sea has dropped sharply.
It’s hard to say for sure what this is connected with. In some places, Russian troops successfully worked on drones, in others, poor-quality Ukrainian service and operating conditions had an impact, and in others, the weather does not allow drones to fly into the air.
🔻But Turkish UAVs demonstrate much greater efficiency in Africa. At the moment, 11 African states use Bayraktars to fight various gangs, which, against the backdrop of regularly published materials of their combat use, is quite a good indicator.
The armed groups operating on the continent virtually completely lack air defense systems. For the Bayraktar, with its good combat load and flight duration, such a theater of operations is a real expanse.
Therefore, Baykar’s plans will most likely be related to expansion in the African market. Moreover, the countries of the continent themselves have long been not averse to purchasing drones from the Turks.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 9 2024 14:41 utc | 256

@shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 13:48 utc | 252
“In war, sacrifices are necessary.” 🙂 And even though Ukraine is just a border skirmish in the borderlands, sacrifices are still necessary. You can’t fight a war or even a skirmish without casualties, the trick is to ensure that your own casualties are much, much less than your opponents. Putin is doing wonderfully in this regard.
About this business in the West that civilians are sacrosanct, that its a crime against humanity to kill civilians, is this a Christian belief? I very much doubt it as the West has never practiced that belief in their wars ever. So it is a BS belief, a belief created just for females. Its like with the Jews, the females are taught the Torah (old testicles) while the males ignore that rubbish as only fit for females and instead go for the proper stuff in the Talmud, which teaches that Jesus must boil in excrement and that a thousand goy lives are worth less than a Jews’s fingernail cutting. Yet time and time again, all this nonsense about civilians are sacrosanct, civilians are sacrosanct, civilians are sacrosanct, … , cry me a river, that is just for females. Sacrifices are necessary, some few Russian civilians kicking the bucket or some few places bombed in Russia is not the end of the world.

Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 14:45 utc | 257

Sacrifices are necessary, some few Russian civilians kicking the bucket or some few places bombed in Russia is not the end of the world.
Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 14:45 utc | 257

This is absurd post-hoc rationalization.
We are talking about the largest nuclear power in the world, and also about something with no end in sight under current policies.
And it is not necessary, it can end in a day.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 15:00 utc | 258

@shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 15:00 utc | 258

it can end in a day

Yes it can end in a day, but will that route lead to the smallest amount of Russian casualties, given
that it could start a nuclear exchange and WW3 ??????

Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 16:35 utc | 259

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-sky-is-falling.html
“Ukraine’s nightmare scenario is becoming a reality,” said Ben Hodges, former commander of the US Army in Europe. “Ukraine has almost run out of ammunition, and Europe and the USA are not willing to take their ammunition production to a new level,” said the retired US general. D. in conversation with the Editorial Network Germany (RND). While Russia is massively expanding its attacks from the air and on land, the Ukrainian soldiers on the front are running out of ammunition. Anti-aircraft missiles are in short supply and artillery shells are being rationed, leaving Ukrainian troops unable to cancel planned attacks and hold defensive positions. According to the Ukrainian military, some units have already had to reduce their rate of fire by 90 percent compared to the summer. Everything is missing – and in many places on the front the commanders don’t know how long they can hold their positions.”

Posted by: chop | Jan 9 2024 16:40 utc | 260

Yes it can end in a day, but will that route lead to the smallest amount of Russian casualties, given
that it could start a nuclear exchange and WW3 ??????
Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 16:35 utc | 259

It won’t, Russia can totally annihilate any European country and the US will not initiate a strategic strike, because that means the US dies too. NATO protection is a fiction and it is time for someone to call that bluff.
Putin’s “this is not a bluff” bluff was called, in case you have forgotten

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 16:48 utc | 261

@257
The sacrifice families say thank u!
What about u?
Don’t u want to sacrifice few of ur family members and place them in the Center of Belgorod or Donezk?

Posted by: SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 16:53 utc | 262

And it is not necessary, it can end in a day.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 3:00 pm UTC | 258
But if it ends in a day, then some time later it will start again where it started last time. But the goal must be to shake the conditions – i.e. the loyalty of the European vassals so that the USA can no longer rely on them because they have suddenly discovered that they neither want to starve nor die for the USA.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 16:56 utc | 263

Posted by: bevin | Jan 7 2024 21:11 utc | 36
And never to be surpassed.

Posted by: horseguards | Jan 9 2024 17:10 utc | 264

@shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 16:48 utc | 261
UK and France have nukes, why risk a war with someone with nukes. SloMO is still the the best route for minimum Russian casualties.

Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 18:01 utc | 265

UK and France have nukes, why risk a war with someone with nukes. SloMO is still the the best route for minimum Russian casualties.
Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 18:01 utc | 265

Because you are being attacked daily, and it is only going to become worse, and clearly the fact that you have nukes that you are not using is not acting as a sufficient deterrent.
So what exactly is left as a way to stop it?
If you have nukes but you have declared that you will essentially never use them, then you don’t have nukes. Simple as that.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 18:08 utc | 266

“UK and France have nukes…” They are small, centralized countries. If the russians nuke London and Paris tomorrow morning completely, noone will talk about GB, France and their nukes in the evening.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 18:51 utc | 267

UK is easy take out — at this point their SSBN fleet is in such a decrepit state that it’s not even clear they have a sub out at sea at all times.
If you catch them while all four subs are on the surface in port, they are left defenseless.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:11 utc | 268

@SlowSoft | Jan 9 2024 16:53 utc | 262
The sacrificed families are welcome. Pawns are always whining about their fate as pawns but can never do anything to change their fate as pawns, except to whine some more. Hence pawns do not matter, never have and never will, despite all the grandiose talk about democracy and human rights. Go look at how the West supports human rights in Gaza. Since this business concerns Russia I will answer with a Russian analogy. Stalin was not a pawn. When Stalin’s son was captured by the Germans Stalin told the Germans to shoot the wimp. When Stalin’s wife nagged him too much he had her executed, then got another wife.
Russians should be more like Stalin and not aspire to Western “values”.

Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 19:18 utc | 269

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:11 UTC | 268
Does anyone really believe that England, France or whoever could pose a risk to the USA, for example attacking Russia with nuclear weapons? As “World War victors” they are allowed to bask in the glory of their nuclear weapons – but they will only get clearance when everything in the USA is already in ruins.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 19:24 utc | 270

@shadowbanned
Since we are offering concern, my question would be at what point do the Ukrainian conscripts start shooting the SOBs who keep ordering them into the Russian meat grinder?
I mean you can die a meaningless death under Russian artillery. Or you can take out an officer or two. You’ll be executed for it but you just might make them think twice before they order your mates across the river.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 9 2024 19:31 utc | 271

@shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 18:08 utc | 266
@Oliver Krug | Jan 9 2024 18:51 utc | 267
Oh gawd, instead of SloMO and wiping out one country at a time, both of you want Russia in direct conflict with multiple countries in Europe at the same time. Let me see what is on the tv, even Hollywood will make more sense than the people on this MOA threat at the moment.

Posted by: gT | Jan 9 2024 19:34 utc | 272

I mean you can die a meaningless death under Russian artillery. Or you can take out an officer or two. You’ll be executed for it but you just might make them think twice before they order your mates across the river.
Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 9 2024 19:31 utc | 271

I am wondering that myself.
But you have to keep in mind that you are looking at it from the perspective of someone posting here.
While inside Ukraine the information control is total and the brain washing is thorough.
Many times captured Ukrainians tell how they were sincerely thinking they were winning the war. Even the ones sent to Krynki — they say they expected to just walk forward. That’s all the West needs — it doesn’t need to be winning the war, in fact that is very dangerous because then the Kremlin may really pull out the big guns, the ideal thing is for zombified Ukrainians to fanatically bash their heads against the Russian defensive lines, killing as many Russians as possible in the process. That’s a win. The Ukrainians themselves are disposable.
This again brings us back to the problems with how the Kremlin is waging the war, which is allowing the Ukronazi regime to maintain that illusion of winning it.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:45 utc | 273

Posted by: chop | Jan 9 2024 16:40 utc | 260
Wars of attrition involve every aspect of warfare, not just manpower. It’s why the Russians are constantly attacking, if not taking ground, and why reports of failed assaults are themselves a failure in reporting. Attacking an enemy with supply problems is often just an opportunity to force them to expend valuable ammunition, especially specialist munitions. It’s also why they will try to expand the front, instead of pushing inwards, longer lines of contact means Ukraine cannot stockpile logistics at key areas, as they are forced to distribute it.
Russia seems to have intelligence that NATO are contemplating, or already, cutting and running, since the latest planned campaign of strikes (nothing retaliatory about them) has seemingly targeted domestic production facilities. I’ve also noticed the flight lines on the two large airbases close to me, have suddenly become full of C-17’s and various ECM/ECCM platforms and refuelling tankers. Anecdotal evidence I know, but a possible indication that the Ukrainian project is about to reach the ‘tipping point’.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 9 2024 19:11 utc | 268
Calm down, no one’s going to be playing Nukem soon. The UK has plenty of ‘instant sunshine’ to ruin anyone’s day, that can be delivered by any number of platforms. Stop this fixation on using these weapons, they were designed as a part-replacement for the ruinously expensive conventional forces that would be needed to seriously threaten the border integrities of East and West. Hence some Russian commanders near-panic over Able-Archer, fearing that the superior US technological capabilities of their intermediate strike force might have tempted them to launch a coordinated strike, something Russia was unable to do, due to the relative inaccuracy of her comparative systems.

Posted by: Milites | Jan 9 2024 19:51 utc | 274

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 9 2024 4:27 utc | 223
Have you seen this?
https://globalsouth.co/2024/01/06/russias-european-journey-is-over/

After all, we [in Russia] are also part of European culture. But I hope that, through a series of crises, healthy forces will prevail on that side of the continent in about 20 years, let’s say. And it will wake up from its failure, including its moral failure.

The West is now closing the Iron Curtain, first of all because we in Russia are the real Europeans.

Of course, we will not cancel anything, including our European story. Yes, we have completed our European journey [in terms of integration]. I think it has dragged on a bit, maybe for a century. But without European inoculation, without European culture, we would not have become such a great power. We would not have had Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin or Blok.
So we will keep European culture, which the West of our continent seems to be trying to abandon. But I hope that it will not destroy itself completely, in this regard. Because Western Europe is not only abandoning Russian culture, it is abandoning its own culture. It is cancelling a culture that is largely based on love and Christian values. It is cancelling its history, destroying its monuments. However, we will not reject our European roots.

Under no circumstances should we forget the old sacred stones of Europe that Dostoyevsky spoke of. They are part of our self-awareness

We should not deny our European roots; we should treat them with care. After all, Europe has given us a lot.

It’s hard to say if Mr. Karaganov’s words speak for the average Russian, but from what I can gleam from this, that “Europe” viewed Russia with hatred, racism and contempt doesn’t make Russia any less European, and I frankly doubt that anyone here with a working brain would jump off a cliff if the self-proclaimed European elites, many of whom being in the payroll of certain non-European forces, did so.

Posted by: joey_n | Jan 9 2024 21:48 utc | 275