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January 19, 2024

U.S. President Engages In Therapeutic Killing Of Yemeni Children

The President of the United States endorses the therapeutic killing of Yemenis, including their children.

Q Are the airstrikes in Yemen working?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, when you say “working,” are they stopping the Houthis? No. Are they going to continue? Yes.

But why? What's the strategy?

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Why? Because, when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jan 19 2024 9:18 utc | 1

Could be comedy if it were not so tragic. Has Yemen suffered more than enough? Yes. Is the west to blame? No.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 9:27 utc | 2

They need human sacrifices To Satan.

Posted by: Surferket | Jan 19 2024 9:27 utc | 3

A long time since he understood the consequences of anything he's initiated.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 19 2024 9:31 utc | 4

Interesting comparing his long detailed intelligent (not) answers at a presser to Putin at a presser.
The genocide show must go on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 9:50 utc | 5

QUOTE “The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone.


Quote from World not j Congress Founder Nahum Goldman 1895-1982-

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6

There is something in the American psyche that loves carnage. The Empire feeds off suffering. If there were not dismembered bodies, the bombs bursting in air would be no different than any 4th of July. It’s not only in the national genes, it’s in the national anthem as well.

The addiction to war is actually an addiction to bloodshed. One sees it in the high murder rates on the streets and one sees it in the movie theatre screens. Americans themselves are terrified of their government and fearful of each other. The loud American one encounters overseas is the American trying to give himself courage.

Posted by: Moses22 | Jan 19 2024 10:03 utc | 7

It’s about trying to encourage retaliation so that the world media and opinion can be manoeuvred into the ‘counter response’ that would allow for mass murder of the retaliators.

It’s never going to be ‘our’ fault for starting the shitshow - even though that is proved easily. It’s always going to be ‘their’ fault for having retaliated!

The bully reasoning, learnt from childhood , in this instance the imperial childhood going back centuries. Perfected and repeated through the ages by the elite officer classes.
‘Let them eat cake’, ‘putting down rebellion’ , ‘stiff upper lip’, ‘never admit, never apologise’, etc

Because ‘we’ are the Few and ‘they’ are the Many.

Power is maintained by ultra violence. And self righteous smug sheeple believing they are civilised and the row are the barbarian at the gate.

It’s got so Old now and so ingrained in our psyche it’s not a surprise that potus can utter such banal evil and we don’t blink an eyelid - just nod and slaver in our Pavlovian stupor.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 19 2024 10:07 utc | 8

Wouldnt it be a good idea for houthies to sink some english ship with a russian rocket?

Posted by: Lubomir | Jan 19 2024 10:21 utc | 9

Here's a new Alastair Crooke you all might have missed it's only on Rumble:

Netanyahu’s Gamble: Is Israel preparing for another war?

https://rumble.com/v47q2wr-live-new-rules-podcast-w-alastair-crooke.html

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 19 2024 10:44 utc | 10

Until the War Party engaged with ‘Operation Genocide Guardian’ - shipping flowed smoothly in the Red Sea with sole exception of Israeli linked ships/cargos. …

The War Party gets a twofer by bombing Yemen:

1) scores points with the Likud
2) Destabilizes Europe by shutting Red Sea completely

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2024 10:45 utc | 11

Why? Because, when your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jan 19 2024 9:18 utc | 1

Jeremiah 50:23 New Century Version (NCV)

Babylon was the hammer of the whole earth, but how broken and shattered that hammer is now. It is truly the most ruined of all the nations

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jan 19 2024 11:20 utc | 12

#7

It's because America has never had to fight a war against an enemy that threatened their existence. Their soldiers never had to think what would happen to their families if they couldn't hold the line. Their civilians never had to hide in a bomb shelter while their homes were being razed to the ground by bombs, artillery, missiles, etc. They never had to dig through the rubble in search of their loved ones. The two oceans and their weak ass neighbors have made sure the USA was inoculated against the horrors of a real war.

Posted by: Jo P | Jan 19 2024 11:25 utc | 13

THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, the President wants to put a — the former President wants to put a ban on Arabs coming into the country.

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Read it again. The truth. Out of Biden's mouth. Even Biden knows who the President should be.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 11:25 utc | 14

Why? Simple. A well-known mental condition called "Psychopathy", that's why.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 11:26 utc | 15

Joe thinks he’s a tough guy, a street fighter. He actually believes the Corn Pop story.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 19 2024 11:35 utc | 16

Meditation #11

Some in the "West" proclaim loudly that 'Israel' is the only democracy in the middle east.
However on closer inspection it's Lebanon that's the only democracy in the middle east.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 11:49 utc | 17

There is no reverse gear with these people.

Posted by: Jl555 | Jan 19 2024 11:52 utc | 18

This is not an easy situation for the old U S of A, and if Trump becomes President it will not change one iota.

You need to remember that these people (the followers of the p@dophile) enjoy nothing more than killing and being killed. They do it all the time among themselves, Israel only being the excuse they use to prevent the entire Arab world from exploding. If they did not have Israel, they'd find a way to kill more Yemeni, or to split internally, and keep having fun with their favourite hobby.

So, Yemen is one of the poorest Countries on earth, and these people find a way to start another conflict, because hey, that's what they do. However, it would be an illusion to think that a couple (or many) missiles can solve the issue. As Israel is (very impressively) showing, if you want to solve the problem you need to put boots on the ground. A diffused threat cannot be countered with surgical attacks. You need to either go all-in, or be smart and stay out.

In this case, "all-in" would mean at least 300,000 US soldiers and a huge financial and logistical effort. I doubt the US could, in 2023, easily mount (logistically and financially) something anything like what they did in 2003. Plus, their soldiers are demotivated and unwilling to die for DEI and for the assorted deviants among them. Plus, the US would need a massive rearmament program for which they are, industrially and culturally ("learn to code!"), ill-equipped. Plus, the war would be very unpopular in the US, it being impossible to persuade the voters that ducking half- Yemen is vital to protect the US interests and its shipping lanes.

In short, I think the US have gone at this the wrong way, without thinking of the consequences. This is, in fact, very Biden.

If I were a security adviser at (Trump's) White House, my suggestion would be to let Egypt suffer (serves them well), navigate around Africa (which is fairly cheap in the great scheme of things), and punish the dusking Houthis in the smart way (e.g. selling, not giving, weapons to the Saudis, thus following the honoured tradition of Arab mutual killing).

Then I would give (not sell) *more* support, and *more* weapons, to the little heroic people in Israel, in another big finger raised to those fanatics in Yemen. The big finger would say: "you wanted to harm israel, you now have to deal with a stronger one".

This way, Israel profits from the antics of the Houthis. The followers of the pedophile can dedicate themselves to their favourite pastime. American soldiers do not die in the desert.

You are welcome

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 11:58 utc | 19

Meditation #12

Many commentators in the West proclaim loudly that Ansarallah's targeting of ships in the Red Sea is non-discriminatory and therefore criminal in nature.

These people forget that Ansarallah is only doing to the Western world a mild form what was done to them for almost a decade - the violent blockade of Yemeni shipping and subsequent starvation of the Yemeni population.

If it was 'legal' for the West to embargo Yemen in this way, why is it not similarly 'legal' for Ansarallah to do something similar to Western shipping?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 11:58 utc | 20

Some possible points that come to mind on why:

* Closes down Red Sea for all ships, not only UKUSIS, thus denying competitive advantage in transit to China and Russia, hurting Egypt and the EU.
* Creates the deceptive idea that they have not lost this one as well.
* Wastes weapons, but this only means more orders from and more money to MIC.
* Maybe the most important one: they don't know what else to do.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 19 2024 12:01 utc | 21

The followers of the pedophile can dedicate themselves to their favourite pastime.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 11:58 utc | 19

You must mean the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein followed by Ehud Barak, Bill Clinton and other 'luminaries' of the Western power structure ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:03 utc | 22

In response to another reporter, who asks why Israel is sufficing with attacks on Iran's proxies rather than attacking Iran directly, Netanyahu responds, “Who says we aren't attacking Iran? We are attacking Iran.” (Times of Israel)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 12:07 utc | 23

Wouldnt it be a good idea for houthies to sink some english ship with a russian rocket?
Posted by: Lubomir | Jan 19 2024 10:21 utc | 9

No matter where the rocket came from, it would always be presented to us as originally Iranian, including debris with Iranian characters and a few whiskers.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 19 2024 12:09 utc | 24

* Maybe the most important one: they don't know what else to do.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 19 2024 12:01 utc | 21

This is it.

For the (perhaps) first time in it's existence the West has encountered an enemy that has no fear at all.

One that cannot just be bombed into oblivion.

One that cannot be invaded without great pain.

One that grows stronger the harder it's attacked.

What does one do with such an enemy?

Easy: Beat your head against the wall.

And slowly go mad doing it ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:10 utc | 25

* Wastes weapons, but this only means more orders from and more money to MIC.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 19 2024 12:01 utc | 21

The same MIC that cannot keep up with Ukraine's demands for weapons ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:13 utc | 26

Quote from World not j Congress Founder Nahum Goldman 1895-1982-

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6

These quotes accord almost perfectly with what is found in the alleged forgery the "Protocols of Zion".

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:17 utc | 27

Then I would give (not sell) *more* support, and *more* weapons, to the little heroic people in Israel, in another big finger raised to those fanatics in Yemen.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 11:58 utc | 19

For a second I thought you were going to say "the little heroic people in Yemen, in another big finger raised to those fanatics in Israel".

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 12:40 utc | 28

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:17 utc | 27

Nahum Goldmann was critical of Israel for what he saw as its over-reliance on military might, and for not making more concessions after the 1967 Six-Day War, advocating a position that the only chance of long-term survival for Israel was to accept the rights of the Palestinians as a people.

He repeatedly advocated peaceful co-existence between Arabs and Israelis, saying: "There can be no future for the Jewish state unless agreement is reached with the Arabs."

In October 1967, he met Yugoslav leader Josip Broz Tito, and asked him to inform other Communist leaders, as well as Arab leaders, about his ideas for a peaceful settlement. In early 1970, he was invited to talks by Egyptian president Gamel Abdel Nasser but was stopped by the Israeli government. Attempts to contact PLO leader Yasser Arafat, in 1974, were even seen as high treason, an extreme view Goldmann thought foolish. In 1982, he called on the Israeli Prime Minister not to reanimate anti-Zionism and antisemitism with the invasion of Lebanon.

In 1977, Goldmann expressed his frustration with Israel's approach to the peace process:

"In 30 years, Israel has never presented the Arabs with a single peace plan. She has rejected every settlement plan devised by her friends and by her enemies. She has seemingly no other object than to preserve the status quo while adding territory piece by piece."

In 1981, he criticized the tactic of using the Holocaust to justify atrocities and murders:

"We will have to understand that Jewish suffering during the Holocaust no longer will serve as a protection, and we certainly must refrain from using the argument of the Holocaust to justify whatever we may do. The use of the Holocaust as excuse for bombing of Lebanon, for instance, as Menachem Begin does, is a kind of "Hillul Hashem“ [sacrilege], a banalization of the sacred tragedy of the Shoah [Holocaust], which must not be misused to politically doubtful and morally indefensible policies.

Sounds like a decent man to me.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 19 2024 12:45 utc | 29

"We will have to understand that Jewish suffering during the Holocaust no longer will serve as a protection, and we certainly must refrain from using the argument of the Holocaust to justify whatever we may do. The use of the Holocaust as excuse for bombing of Lebanon, for instance, as Menachem Begin does, is a kind of "Hillul Hashem“ [sacrilege], a banalization of the sacred tragedy of the Shoah [Holocaust], which must not be misused to politically doubtful and morally indefensible policies.

Sounds like a decent man to me.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 19 2024 12:45 utc | 29

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Perhaps he also worried that people would recognize that Zionists were extreme hypocrites in that they were co-perpetrators of the Shoah, and also that the Zionist co-perpetrators were protected by "Israel" after the war.

Posted by: librul | Jan 19 2024 12:55 utc | 30

Actually "homeopathic killing" would be nice, it's equivalent to nothing. Currently the French are the largest manufacturers of nothing. For the question "why?", the answer is the same everywhere: because they can, it's what they want, and (at least for the moment) there's no one who can stop them. They all pretend to "attrition" or something, but in fact is ineptitude. Actually on Thursday, Biden threatened again that if funding for Ukr isn't approved, he'll send soldiers there. So the gang isn't only fighting other countries, doing anything they please with zero consequences, but internally they also rule with unlimited power.

Posted by: rk | Jan 19 2024 12:58 utc | 31

Is the attack by the MIC upon Yemen just a bureaucracy being the machine that it is, a machine on auto-pilot?

Posted by: librul | Jan 19 2024 13:00 utc | 32

"Shut up and look busy! The boss is watching!" -- Biden worried about USA's billionaire donors

Or maybe Biden is less bitch-made high street hooker and instead a true believer in all the sniffable children he'll get to have after this blood sacrifice?

Oh dear, I am letting current events coarsen me... :(

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 19 2024 13:19 utc | 33

@ Quote from World not j Congress Founder Nahum Goldman 1895-1982-

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6

These quotes accord almost perfectly with what is found in the alleged forgery the "Protocols of Zion".

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:17 utc | 27

They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34

"Homeopathic"? In the sense of little pill quackery?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 19 2024 13:38 utc | 35


Sounds like a decent man to me.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 19 2024 12:45 utc | 29


by words and actions and deeds you will know them.

nice guy


In 1915 Nahum Goldmann wrote a book called The German War: The Spirit of Militarism (in German)

Nahum Goldmann went on to found the Memorial Foundation for Jewish Culture MFJC which in its words has has been promoting the global regeneration of Jewish culture The MFJC has supported scholars, rabbis and emerging leaders in 72 countries ,16,000 scholars, artists, filmmakers, rabbis and Jewish communal leaders Also 53 recipients of the Israel Prize were supported during their careers by the MFJC The Israel Prize is an award bestowed by the State of Israel

The German Marshall Fund has “Leadership Programs” which mold young impressionable youth to follow the “Goldmann Protocols” These include

Marshall Memorial Fellowship
Transatlantic Inclusion Leadership Network
Manfred Wörner Seminar


1) Elimination of all frontier borders

The establishment of the European Union the Schengen Agreement etc in Europe , visa on arrival ,Open border policies by certain groups , NGOs in Europe encouraging immigration from black nations (they dont offer any support for intra Europe white immigration)

2) Elimination of nationhood and culture

3) Elimination of public policy ethical barriers

4) Elimination of traditional social norms

5)The persuasion of the general masses in joining in the task of destroying their own traditional society and economic culture

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 13:38 utc | 36

No war will stop as it is a stimulus package . And when they decide , parts of it are over , then the reconstruction will be the next one . With the same criminals profiting . Inflation is the new tax to balance the books . The other factor is they can round up the actual degenerates and ‘faithful to the ruse ‘ and kill them . You know those undesirable ones ‘ that they set up and slaughter . The difference being , the idiots in this blowback , reckon Yemen is Israel …. So to Mecca ! The cult of the Pink cow knows no bound . P.s my Jewish friends , orthodox , told me that those that ‘burnt ‘ them in public , those tunnels in ZNy … they got put in by Zionists angry at their non script . After all they are the ones Zionists sacrificed , and the ones that believed in Communism ! Yemen , poor souls , running inflation for empire whist weeping for Jerusalem that someone is desecrating with the plan .

Posted by: Paleologos | Jan 19 2024 13:55 utc | 37

@ Quote from World not j Congress Founder Nahum Goldman 1895-1982-

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6

These quotes accord almost perfectly with what is found in the alleged forgery the "Protocols of Zion".

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:17 utc | 27

They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34

I don't know the provenance of the "Protocols of Zion" other than that of Henry Ford's publication early in the 20th century..

However, Arch's excellent point that the quotes almost perfectly coincide with that 'alleged ' document seals the deal for me: ie. "The Protocols of Zion" are not a fabrication.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 19 2024 14:01 utc | 38

sometimes Angels are there when you need them I myself had Angels save me in the past a few times

https://twitter.com/i/status/1748129802878677179

Israel is a satanic cult that must be dealt with otherwise our planet will be destroyed within this decade

Posted by: 🌶️Mike | Jan 19 2024 14:03 utc | 39

I agree with other comments: "they [the MIC] don't know what else to do".

Came across an older post of mine. Bidet had an example set for him by Bomber Obama.

Days after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize Obama marked the occasion by slaughtering dozens of Yemen women and children,
ostensibly in a failed attempt to attack an organization that wasn't even an FTO (Foreign Terrorist Organization).
That's right, it wasn't "legal". Had Secretary of State Hillary failed to do her job? The designation was made a month later,
after the bombs had already been dropped.

Julian Assange to the rescue.

Wikileaks gives us a cable about a post-bombing meeting between Pentagon monsters and the government of Yemen.

Here is the older (24 months ago) post:
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The cable summing up a meeting between General Petraeus and President Saleh of Yemen
discusses laundering weapons to get around the 'American "bureaucracy"'.
Was this standard operating procedure? We sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and they
transfer them to President Saleh of Yemen to use against the Houthis.

https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10SANAA4_a.html

"The U.S. could convince Saudi Arabia and the UAE to supply six
helicopters each if the American "bureaucracy" prevented
quick approval, Saleh suggested. The General responded that
he had already considered the ROYG's request for helicopters
and was in discussions with Saudi Arabia on the matter. "We
won't use the helicopters in Sa'ada, I promise. Only against
al-Qaeda," Saleh told General Petraeus."

Saleh *'promised'* to use the helicopters only in war #1 and not war #2.

In the same meeting the Yemeni made a joke about lying to their own Parliament.

""We'll continue saying the
bombs are ours, not yours," Saleh said, prompting Deputy
Prime Minister Alimi to joke that he had just "lied" by
telling Parliament that the bombs in Arhab, Abyan, and Shebwa
were American-made but deployed by the ROYG."

The lie was well appreciated by the American side who gifted the Yemeni
with an increase in U.S. security assistance.

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Have to include this too. General Petraeus demonstrates intimate knowledge
of the women and children he slaughtered, else complete shamelessness:

"4. (S/NF) Saleh praised the December 17 and 24 strikes
against AQAP but said that "mistakes were made" in the
killing of civilians in Abyan. The General responded that
the only civilians killed were the wife and two children of
an AQAP operative at the site,"

According to Amnesty International the December 17th attack alone was devastating:
"A Yemeni parliamentary inquiry found that 41 local residents, including 14 women and 21 children, and 14 alleged al-Qa’ida members were killed in the attack."

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I just noticed something else in the Pentagon cable:

"The General told Saleh that two fully-equipped 87-foot patrol boats destined
for the Yemeni Coast Guard were under construction and would
arrive in Yemen within a year."

After the Houthis took over Yemen did they make use of these patrol boats that we supplied?
Whatever equipment are they using that we gave to the previous government of Yemen.


Posted by: librul | Jan 19 2024 14:12 utc | 40

?
My post at 14:12 was meant to include a link to Amnesty after the quote:

According to Amnesty International the December 17th attack alone was devastating:
"A Yemeni parliamentary inquiry found that 41 local residents, including 14 women and 21 children, and 14 alleged al-Qa’ida members were killed in the attack."

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2010/12/wikileaks-cable-corroborates-evidence-us-airstrikes-yemen/

Posted by: librul | Jan 19 2024 14:17 utc | 41

@b Thank you for the link!

"
Q What do you make of these attacks between Iran and Pakistan?

THE PRESIDENT: As you can see, Iran is not particularly well-liked in the region.

Q Yeah.

THE PRESIDENT: And where — where that goes, we’re working on now. I don’t know where that goes.
"

But i have an idea.

Posted by: 600w | Jan 19 2024 14:37 utc | 42


They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34


In 1915 Nahum Goldmann wrote a book called The German War: The Spirit of Militarism (in German)
i have a copy 1923 i think it is the printing
who is the fraud sir the khazar squeeth or the 1920s english printer the words and deeds of satans friends

"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it."

(THE CENTURY MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1928, Vol. 115, No. 3, pp. 346-350.) marcus ravage a friend of a well known frankfurt banking family

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 14:45 utc | 43

"This is not an easy situation for the old U S of A, and if Trump becomes President it will not change one iota."
...
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Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 11:58 utc | 19

I beg to differ. Trump tried to suck up to the Jewish Lobby by bending over backwards for them and got shat on by The Lobby for his trouble. He was obstructed from appointing his preferred aides till the end of his term.

He won't make that mistake again. When he becomes Prez next year he'll rip the jews a new asshole, cut off their US gravy train and tell them to go fly a kike kite.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 19 2024 14:51 utc | 44

They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34

They aren't fabrications either.

You can't fabricate something that's unfolding as written before our very eyes on countless media channels as we speak ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 14:53 utc | 45

It seems like a way to put more pressure on Egypt (shut down the Suez canal) to take in the Palestinians, while pretending to do something else. Plus we hate Ansar Allah. Thus, a twofer. And Biden always mouths off, and then he can't publicly back down. Come to think of it, looking for rational explanations for this may be a mistake. But Egypt agreeing to take the Palestinians off the Izzies hands for a suitable bribe might look like the only acceptable resolution to Biden. In any case if Biden does not attack Yemen, the Red Sea traffic will decline a bit but not disappear, and that will keep the focus on Israel.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2024 14:55 utc | 46

Israeli president targeted with criminal prosecution while in Switzerland

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-president-targeted-criminal-prosecution-while-switzerland?nid=334146&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war&fid=498281

Comment - the ability of Likudniks and possibly all IDF reservists to travel overseas will be reduced over time. If the ICJ approves provisional measures, then 87% of the world will be off limits to Israelis.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2024 14:56 utc | 47

I have not heard of Nahum Goldmann before but isn't the destruction of the west what many on MoA are also wishing for?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 48

It seems like a way to put more pressure on Egypt (shut down the Suez canal) t

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2024 14:55 utc | 46

Shutting down the Suez canal may put pressure on Egypt but it will absolutely wreck the West ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 49

I thought it was a stroke of genius for Iran and Pakistan to covertly agree to eliminate each other's resident ter'rists. The only downside would have been mustering enough mock outrage to keep internal supporters of the crims happy. It seems to have worked well enough to justify repeating the exercise.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 19 2024 15:09 utc | 50

zio
goy shoah


From the days of Spartacus, Weishophf, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenburg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th Century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
Winston Churchill

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 15:10 utc | 51

They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34


In 1915 Nahum Goldmann wrote a book called The German War: The Spirit of Militarism (in German)
i have a copy 1923 i think it is the printing
who is the fraud sir the khazar squeeth or the 1920s english printer the words and deeds of satans friends

"You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it."

(THE CENTURY MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1928, Vol. 115, No. 3, pp. 346-350.) marcus ravage a friend of a well known Frankfurt banking family

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 14:45 utc | 43

Thanks Todd for the reality check.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 19 2024 15:11 utc | 52

"I have not heard of Nahum Goldmann before but isn't the destruction of the west what many on MoA are also wishing for?"

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 48

I can't speak for all the bar flies but in my opinion mot of them do not want the 'destruction of the West'; what they want is the destruction of the Elite's power and, as such a reform of Western Imperialistic policies.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 19 2024 15:14 utc | 53

McCaum, Chair of House Foreign Affairs Committee:

"And, to your point in the Red Sea, we've had commercial vessels shot down in the Red Sea. This is causing a 450% increase in shipping costs that will add to inflation, add to energy crisis, and it's so irresponsible but so dangerous."

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:15 utc | 54

Apologies for typo, I meant

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:18 utc | 55

have not heard of Nahum Goldmann before but isn't the destruction of the west what many on MoA are also wishing for?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 48

The destruction of the west will result in the loss of too many innocent lives.

Most here on MoA seek a multi-polar world order within which small, weak states may obtain security by navigating between the "poles". For that to happen:

1. Western control over non-Western societies must be destroyed (i.e, the total destruction of the last remnants of Western colonial power)

2. Western military forces must be destroyed where they are located outside the borders of Western countries.

3. The potential of Western states to hold military or economic leverage over the RoTW must be destroyed.

i.e: It is not "The West" that must be destroyed but instead the exorbitant privileges the West are afforded over the global order. Forever.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 15:18 utc | 56

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 14:53 utc | 45

The "Protocols" are totally fraudulent and there is no need to boost the propaganda of the Zionist scum by promoting them. It is absolutely not a coinidence that they were used by Hitler and his cohorts to justify his genocidal goals and actions form the mid-20s onwards. In that context, the poster "todd" aims to discredit MoA.

Not to mention the obvious, that the current chaos and the goal of full spectrum dominance doesn't require any malevolent Jewsih plotters. The British then, Anglo-American now, globalist elites would seek such a thing without a psuh from fanciful secret cults. In short, this type of thinking has been a splendid excuse to divert blame from the culprits. Any Jews that are part of the criminal scum that threaten humanity as a whole operate on the basis of class values and not on tribalist ones.

Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:19 utc | 57

3 videos of Gaza fighting from 18.Jan
https://southfront.press/israeli-army-takes-more-losses-in-gaza-videos/

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2024 15:20 utc | 58

"..A long time since he understood the consequences of anything he's initiated..." jpc@4

Very kind of you to say so, but I disagree. As his faculties diminish Biden is reduced to his essentials- his total amorality being one of them. When he was sharper and smarter he took care to disguise his utter disregard for the lives of others- always on show in his political activity- with the usual sort of crocodile tears and hypocrisy.

Now he no longer has the energy or the intellectual power to pretend concern or work out what others want to hear from him. He is reduced to an animal state, he has appetites but no conscience, all his finer feelings, never more than superficial affectations, are gone.
What you see is what he is. And what he says is what he thinks.

All of which is to the good. People can no longer pretend to be puzzled by the callousness and sadism of US policy- it has always been that way, Now it is simply shorn of the bible thumping, psalm chanting hypocrisy that has always been the other side of the genocidal coin on which that 'Noble Experiment' has been founded.
On the one hand rejection of the 1763 Royal Proclamation. On the other much cheap talk about human liberty and the offense that Kings represent to the idea of equality.

As to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion they were a provocation designed to inspire pogroms- massacres of families that is. By insisting that they are genuine communications their protagonists, following the Okhrana, indicate an appetite for pogroms themselves. The spirit of the KKK, the lynch mob and Jim Crow is never very far away when Americans discuss things. It was one of the aspects of this society that Hitler greatly admired.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:21 utc | 59

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 15:10 utc | 51

And with that post you have officially entered the neo-Hitlerite parade. What don't you man up and mention Mein Kampf in the list of books whose quotations you post? Doubtlessly you praise the latter work's Austrian author as a defender of the west and its traditional values. He spouted the exact same crap as you.

Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:24 utc | 60

They aren't forgeries, they are fabrications. You can't forge something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 19 2024 13:34 utc | 34

They aren't fabrications either.

You can't fabricate something that's unfolding as written before our very eyes on countless media channels as we speak ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 14:53 utc | 45

Point and match.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 19 2024 15:25 utc | 61

Shutting down the Suez canal may put pressure on Egypt but it will absolutely wreck the West ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 49

It will further enslave/impoverish Europe, and really put the squeeze on Al Sisi. True, it won't be good for Israel either, but Biden is pissed at them by now, they never got along.

I'm not suggesting this might work, mind you.

Bibi needs the war to go on, Biden needs it to end.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2024 15:26 utc | 62

At substack Andrew Korybko writes

"Debunking The Theory That Iran & Pakistan Secretly Coordinated Their Strikes Against One Another"

"Many among the Alt-Media Community have an over-simplistic view of International Relations whereby they tend to imagine that all countries that support multipolarity are on the same side, which is why they chalk up “politically inconvenient” developments like last week’s tit-for-tat strikes between SCO members Iran and Pakistan as being part of a “5D chess master plan”.

"Iran and Pakistan’s tit-for-tat strikes against groups in the other’s territory that each designated as terrorists-separatists was the worst military escalation in these two’s history, yet many among the Alt-Media Community (AMC) are convinced that this exchange was secretly coordinated between them. The very serious statements released by each government contradict that claim, but it’s nevertheless gone viral on social media, hence the reason why it’ll be debunked point-by-point in the present piece.

"Cross-border strikes are a major matter that can’t honestly be downplayed by any observer. In Pakistan’s case, Iran joined the ranks of America and India as the only countries to carry out airstrikes against it, while Pakistan became the first country to bomb Iran since Iraq in the 1980s. Each’s prestige was harmed since Pakistan is a nuclear-armed state while Iran is just a threshold one unlike the US and India, and Iran regularly threatens a crushing response if the US or Israel bombs it yet none followed Pakistan’s strikes.

"Their tit-for-tat therefore discredited one another’s respective deterrence policies, which could give their rivals a reason to wonder whether a similarly mild response could be expected from each if they were to carry out limited cross-border strikes against them too. Neither’s national security policymakers would ever risk emboldening their rivals in such a way, and those few that might theoretically do would be kept in check by their colleagues, who understand the importance of upholding the integrity of these policies.

"It's also unrealistic to imagine that Pakistan’s Chief Of Army Staff (COAS) Asim Munir and Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who are one another’s ultimate decisionmakers, would ever authorize a convoluted secret operation with one another that entails such counterproductive self-inflicted damage to their security. Objectively speaking, it would arguably amount to treason, and patriotic elements within their permanent national security bureaucracies could revolt by disobeying orders or worse to stop them....

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:26 utc | 63

Comment on videos:

The first 2 videos are the typical ones we‘ve been seeing = oblivious IDF getting ambushed at point blank range

The 3rd video is new - it shows a couple of incredibly homespun rocket/mortar launchers that appear to be using captured IDF shells as the round. Can not imagine these are anything but nuisance attacks.

Would like someone experienced with mortars to check out the 3rd video and comment. Thank you

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2024 15:28 utc | 64

Just a rough check shows that the Protocols of the Elders have three converts on this thread already, Arch Bungle, canuck and ToddL.

What it is harder to discern is whether their enthusiasm is real or part of a conspiracy to discredit the frank and uncensored discussions of important questions (which do not include the nonsense of this century plus old screed cobbled together by Tsarists) and the exchange of suppressed information thsat characterise this forum.

I suspect that in most cases it is just a desire to shock grown ups.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:37 utc | 65

The answer is there is no strategy.

He's just hoping Israel will stop then the houthis will stop.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 19 2024 15:43 utc | 66

Houthis are the legitimate government of Yemen and they have been fighting the oppressive western backed government since 2014. Just another proxy war, nothing to see.They say it was Saudi war but there is no Saudi military without 100% 24/7/365 support from US.

Not unlike the 500,000 children we slowly starved to death in Iraq the US has fomented civil war, applied sanctions and enforced them on Yemen "The U.N. estimates that the conflict in Yemen has caused over 377,000 deaths, most of which were due to hunger and lack of health care".

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/09/14/1196420876/theres-a-glimmer-of-hope-on-yemens-war-front-yet-children-are-still-dying-of-hun

Posted by: jef | Jan 19 2024 15:46 utc | 67

The Skwawkbox has a video of Clare Daly- how proud Irish people must be that she is a fellow countrywoman- telling the truth in the European Parliament.

'Utter lunacy and an absolute disgrace'
"Irish MEP Clare Daly has condemned the EU's supposed 'ceasefire motion' regarding Israel's mass slaughter of Palestinians as a 'green light for butchery' and 'utter lunacy', after right-wing Irish party sabotaged the motion with an amendment that changed it to a call for the slaughter to end when Israel has everything it wants from it:

"In a joint statement with fellow Irish independent MP Mick Wallace, Daly explained further:

"The resolution passed by the European Parliament today on #Gaza is not a "call for a permanent ceasefire." It is an open-ended license for genocide.

"Read our press statement on how @EPPGroup and @FineGael have given Israel a green light to keep going:https://t.co/o3Y3wREuCP pic.twitter.com/GxFIUrzawc— Clare Daly (@ClareDalyMEP) January 18, 2024

"Today, Daly pointed out how Israel's mouthpieces are celebrating the motion, confirming that it did nothing to protect Palestinian civilians from a genocide that has already killed around 33,000 people, three quarters of them women and children:

"Israel reps spent yesterday trumpeting satisfaction with the Parliament's resolution. Tells you everything! It was NOT a call for a ceasefire! It was a green light for Israel to keep going. Why did @FineGael MEPs vote for the 'Netanyahu amendment'? — Clare Daly (@ClareDalyMEP) January 19, 2024

"Daly and other Irish left-wingers have been among the few principled EU politicians genuinely standing up against Israel's war crimes.

https://skwawkbox.org/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:49 utc | 68

There is something in the American psyche that loves carnage.
Posted by: Moses22 | Jan 19 2024 10:03 utc | 7

What we actually love is winning, and we are not alone in that regard. And sence winning in a violent confrontation is the most dramatic, that tends to be a popular form of winning.

The violence in our current era is due primarily because the Collective West is losing its grip. Colonialism started with military conquests, shifted to subversion, and now is losing control. If we were smarter than we are, we would withdraw slowly, preserving what privilege we could manage. Instead we are fighting the thing in a way that works to nobody's benefit.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 19 2024 15:50 utc | 69

And with that post you have officially entered the neo-Hitlerite parade

Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:24 utc | 60

sir the quotes are from the most upstanding men of the last century so called great men all of whom to put it mildly where not fans of hitler or so we are told.
quoting khazarian turkic russio ashkanazim zionist non semite that self indentified as you know who,quoting the satanic words of turkic pirate does not make me new hitler or one of his henchmen.


talking of hitler i am still waiting for the bbc documentary about hitler in russell square london and visiting his brother in liverpool
you see if hitler had a brother who lived in the home town of the beatles and had london banking friends should we not know?

wall street the city of london and the rise of hitler and the bolshevik revolutions

a weird circus bankers parade indeed

read the book mentioned above i am not the author that book is kosher you can take that to the B I S Bank

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 15:51 utc | 70

https://skwawkbox.org/

Has a video of Clare Daly telling the truth about Gaza:
"EU ‘ceasefire motion’ is ‘green light for butchery"

My post has been caught in the filters so go to Skwawkbox.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:53 utc | 71

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:37 utc | 65

The poster "toddl" may well seek to discredit the blog. He isn't engaged in invectives against Zionist supremacists and criminal Jewish champions of the Anglo-American empire, but in the archetypal ravings of the old school neo-Nazis. Witness the names of the "evil Joos" he posted and you get the gist. He would be in good company among the neo-Nazis in Maidan.

As for the others, they seem to find it difficult to associate the overpowerful and unaccountable Anglo-American and western elites with goals of global domination, all factual and well recorded and appear convinced that such aims would require plotters from specific ethnic groups. Apparently, such tendencies are not class-based and identified on all human societies, but the characteristic of one ethno-religious group exclusively.

Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:57 utc | 72

"isn't the destruction of the west what many on MoA are also wishing for?"

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:05 utc | 48

I'm guessing by comments that the majority of barflies appear to be in the West so why would we wish for suicide? I would want the complete overhaul of dysfunctional and corrupt Western institutions. At the supranational level this involves things like the UN, IMF, WB, WHO, WTO, OECD, ICC, ICJetc. Many Western corporations need to stop getting the subsidies and tax breaks they get.

We rarely see OECD in the MSM. It is how bad policy is meted out to member states.

At the national level it is upto each country to fix what is broken. Be it "democracy", central bank, do nothing government departments, media and so on.

Much of Israel, EU and 5 Eyes wealth comes from artificially inflated currencies based on military power and a stranglehold over the "Rules Based Order" which includes favourable conditions for their own corporations (including almost free capital).

When you travel the world you see other economic models are possible and successful. There's no one size fits all. Both market based models or "nationalized socialist" models can function assumning they're properly implemented and not subject to nefarious external pressures.

Words are powerful and rational debate and analysis gets toxic and goes off course when emotive language is introduced.

For example, we could speak of "destroying the IMF" or "writing down all debt it is owed and closing it down.".

As humans we are wired for fear. That's fine if we are facing real tigers or the psychopathic Israeli army.

I see so much fear around me around imagined threats which are almost never realized: terrorism and immigrants are the big two. Yet nobody sees the Bank of International Settlements and banking policies of the Fed and ECB as a threat. Dafuq

My question is (not for you specifically): if one thinks someone is out to destroy the West, what is that entity?

Palestinians are struggling for survival. They're not out to destroy Israel nor do they have the means to do so. But Israel claims they are being destroyed by Palestinians. The reality is Israel is subsidized by others and has all the power. Yet Israel is the one behaving like barbarians. That's what fear and prejudice do to a people.

In a way, Israel is a microcosm of what the fearful West has become. It sees threats everywhere, lives above its means, and then squeals in protest when the obvious is pointed out. While killing and torturing others justifying itself with the 22 year War of Terror narrative.

Speaking for myself I just want to see and end to double standards and hypocrisy.

Posted by: pq | Jan 19 2024 16:00 utc | 73

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 15:15 utc | 54

Very typical of right-wing American politicians (including Joe Biden). Never do a root cause analysis. In the case of shipping, that'd be the Yemeni's justified blockade on ships used to support the genocide. In the case of the border crisis, that'd be Donald Trump and Joe Biden's attempted economic genocide of Venezuela.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 19 2024 16:00 utc | 74

He won't make that mistake again. When he becomes Prez next year he'll rip the jews a new asshole, cut off their US gravy train and tell them to go fly a kike kite.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 19 2024 14:51 utc | 44

Lol yeah the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and whose daughter is a convert to Judaism is gonna “rip the jews a new asshole.” Keep dreaming man.

Posted by: Gengar | Jan 19 2024 16:12 utc | 75

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:26 utc | 63

Korybko has lost it. The Balochis targeted are waging a western-backed insurgency against Pakistan and Iran. They have committed numerous terrorist attacks against Pakistan and Iran. The Pak-Iran 'tit for tat' is only 'weak' if you believe it was directed at each other, which neither of them do. The message is for the west, in particular for the CIA, MI6, Mossad and their pet terrorist- They are not immune.

Korybko came to my attention during the Syrian war, with a very well written piece on color revolutions. I have not particularly kept up with him since, but from time to time I see some weak piece like this one from him. I have begun to suspect that his insight into the forms and purposes of western hybrid war is due to truly 'inside' information, and that that first piece was a limited hangout.

What we are seeing is the hybrid war strategy of the multipolar resistance to imperialism. Indeed, there is a lack of ideological unity there, but there is a bond of shared experience as victims of imperialism. Pakistan is in grip of American puppets for now, but its policies and actions still must acknowledge the desires of the people, who are in any case on the verge of throwing the puppets out. This 'tit for tat' manages both to appease DC, and to show solidarity with Iran, while addressing a very real problem for Pakistan that is largely, as usual, a product of CIA meddling.

Notably, Pakistan announced shortly after 10/7 that if anyone used nukes in the ME, Pakistan would respond with its own. Since the US and Israel are the only ones in the ME with nukes, the message was clear. 10/7 has forced many leaders who have been subservient to the west to shift their positions- gradually, and carefully, so as not to be attacked, but nevertheless the shift is occurring, because of popular pressure and the material fact that the US can no longer attack ME nations with impunity, and those that side with the US cannot defend themselves from the people the US/Israel attacks.

If the current Pak government took military action against Iran per se, without doing anything substantive to stop the genocide in Gaza, it would be overthrown, and no amount of CIA bribery could prevent it.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 16:12 utc | 76

At substack Andrew Korybko writes

"Debunking The Theory That Iran & Pakistan Secretly Coordinated Their Strikes Against One Another"

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:26 utc | 63

Some white dude thinking he knows what goes on in the heads of Persians and Pashtuns ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 16:12 utc | 77

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 19 2024 15:50 utc | 68

I think the problem with western colonilism, especially in the modern era, is that it has infected a segment of the world's population, specifically a large number of westerners starting with their elites, with a disturbing notion of permanent supremacy over all. It isn't the territorial, economic and political control they exercised - that has happened by many imperial and tribal entities throughout history, but the notion that they are entitled to to the wealth of all others who are to be treated as human cattle.

In this sense, they perceive themselves to be some sort of species aristocracy, the "Homo Occidentalis", no longer attached specifically to a racial concept, but a cultural one. Hence the effort of the propagandists to present to the wester citizenry those aligned as part of the club (such as the Ukrainians, the Israelis), while dehumanizing those targeted for destruction and exploitation.

Moreover, there is an imperative need for endless virtue-signalling, not least because the criminal western policies benefit mostly their elites and not the populace at large. Thus, the latter must be convinced to support such criminality and depravity, since such astance is a mark of the elevated status of the western citizen.

In the end, the greater enemies of western values that could pass as a positive contribution to civilization (and there are numerous such) are the western powers themselves. Ho Chi Minh had a positive view of the French ans US American culture, while Marx and Lenin praised the American Revolution to high heavens. It is the detractors of such personages who have proven to be the archenemies of whatever could be perceived as positive in the west.

Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 16:13 utc | 78

A thousand children have had limbs amputated in Gaza without anaesthetics.
That is the sort of people our MPs and Congressmen are

Gaza Horrors: 1000 Amputations with No Anesthesia
by Dr Marwan Asmar

https://countercurrents.org/2024/01/gaza-horrors-1000-amputations-with-no-anesthesia/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 16:15 utc | 79

These quotes accord almost perfectly with what is found in the alleged forgery the "Protocols of Zion".

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 12:17 utc | 27
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I have always found the "forgery" charge re the Protocols somewhat nonsensical. What about the texts is "forged"? Was someone's handwriting forged? WAs it copied from an original? Was it presented to the world as an ancient text?

The forgery charge seems to be premised on the idea that the Elders of Zion actually exist, but someone used their name without their permission!

If the Elders are the presumed authors, who is the assumed audience for the work?

Obviously, someone did write the text. It doesn't really matter who. Basically the text is a warning. Who would have written that?

The text has considerable predictive and even instructive value (like a recipe). If this were not the case, no one would care who actually wrote them and the idea that old Jewish guys wrote them would be laughable or ignored.

What is also odd to me is that actual Talmudic texts that indisputably are of Jewish origin are suppressed, while this "rogue" text of unknown provenance is given prominence by the shrieking about the supposed author(s)---to direct attention away from the actual text and disincentivize anyone's reading it?

I am sure someone has done a treatise on the Protocols as seen through a propaganda or psy=op lens. Would love to read this.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 19 2024 16:17 utc | 80

Exile | Jan 19 2024 15:28 utc | 64

Look to be the standard short range multiple launch type missiles. Possibly an artillery shell mounted on a purpose built rocket. Hair trigger fuse as can be seen by the way the fuses are installed only after the rockets are loaded in the launcher. They will detonate on the surface of soft ground rather than burying in before the fuse is deformed enough to detonate. they looked to have a press button fuse rather than a soft metal fuse.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 16:23 utc | 81

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Posted by: Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:57 utc | 71

you need to calm down take a breath
powers and principalities God and the lies of satan you wanted and tried to burn the books of good and bad men i say unto you let us read everything old then make a final judgement.

go look at the so called quotes from the talmud or any hero of tewl aviver history and you will find the treatment being dispensed against the children of gaza is normalcy another day at the offices wall street geneva vatican city city of london district of columbia.

white phosphorus bombs burning babies to the bone and poor incontinent constantine is having a fit over word quotes from his zio crime syndicate


Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 16:24 utc | 82

Posted by: bevin | Jan 19 2024 15:37 utc | 65

I think it's worthwhile to ask whether everything that is not true is a lie. 1984, for instance, is not factual. It is true, though, in showing the methods of propaganda and oppression that are a well document part of real policy both before and since. Orwell was a bourgeois socialist anti-communist and collaborator with British Intelligence- very much a character from his own book. The claim is made that his book was aimed at the Soviets, but in practice, it was much more a description of western methods and ideology than Soviet. Perhaps he was not 'turned' as effectively as his intelligence handlers believed, or perhaps he was. Either way, what he wrote has a deep truth to it that points directly at the oppressive security states of Britain and the US and their lackeys.

In that light, regardless of the authenticity of the Protocols of Zion, or the uses to which they have been put, it's legitimate to ask if they reflect an underlying truth that the Zionists themselves would never reveal but given (false) authority by claiming they produced it. This is a standard political practice for a number of reasons, not all of them malign. As we can see from the Protocols case, this practice often backfires and undermines its own intentions, so I don't defend it, as I don't defend the Protocols, but if Arch Bungle thinks it corresponds to what is unfolding now, that it reveals ideological and programmatic truth based on current events, that doesn't make him a Nazi.

Arguing from invented authority, most notably in the form of God, is a prominent feature of western and middle eastern cultures, and, I'm sure, others. Depending on the audience, sometimes it's the only form of argument that gets results, and this is not dependent on what the desired results are, or their moral value.

How should we feel about the movie Idiocracy? Satire when it was released, it reads like prophecy now. In a culture rapidly losing its ability to discriminate between fact and fiction, it may well be considered factual in the not so distant future as more and more of its predictions come to pass, and that might be a good thing, because by then, it will be impossible to change people's beliefs with reason and evidence. Oh wait...

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 16:34 utc | 83

The goal isn't necessarily to stop attacks on shipping.

It's to show Iran that the US will protect its satrapies Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Israel.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 19 2024 16:35 utc | 84

Honzo | Jan 19 2024 16:12 utc | 75

Years ago I read him for a bit and found he wasn't worth reading.
Balochi are tight with India and India are tight with Zion. Hindutva looks at muslims in the same light as the zionists. Subhumans or pest humans that require extermination.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 16:40 utc | 85

The goal isn't necessarily to stop attacks on shipping.

It's to show Iran that the US will protect its satrapies Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Israel.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 19 2024 16:35 utc | 83

If that's so, they've already failed. Before this current conflict broke out, the Houthi demonstrated that the US cannot protect Saudi Arabia- the result: Chinese facilitated rapprochement between KSA and Iran. Operation Preposterous Gaudyan demonstrates that the US cannot protect shipping in the Red Sea, and so obviously not in the Persian Gulf. The escalation by the USUK was replied to with attacks on US and Israeli intelligence centers and proxies in Pakistan, Iraq and Syria, and Iran-backed militias have already made the US withdraw from at least one base in Iraqi Kurdistan. Who, exactly, is the US able to protect?

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 16:43 utc | 86

THE PRESIDENT: I think the vast majority of members of Congress support aid to Ukraine. The question is whether or not a small minority are going to hold it up, which would be — which would be a disaster.

How does a small minority prevent a large majority from voting on any motion?

Posted by: Lantern Dude | Jan 19 2024 16:44 utc | 87

Constantine | Jan 19 2024 15:57 utc | 71

Regardless of username, it has been around off and on for long time. b used to zapp it a lot.

Not a standard troll. Always interesting trying to work out what its intentions are.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 16:44 utc | 88

Genocide Joe is a genocider - granted.

What does anyone propose to do about it?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 19 2024 16:49 utc | 89

" The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone.


Quote from World not j Congress Founder Nahum Goldman 1895-1982-

Posted by: todd l | Jan 19 2024 9:59 utc | 6 "

I'm pretty sure that when this gentleman talks about the destruction of existing nations, religions, cultures, and believe systems he plans on exempting one certain tribal group from said destruction. After all, Goyim are not fully human and non-Goyim are divine and god like.

Posted by: Moonie | Jan 19 2024 16:50 utc | 90

" Some white dude thinking he knows what goes on in the heads of Persians and Pashtuns ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 16:12 utc | 76 "


Is that like when some brown dude thinks he knows what goes on in the heads of Russians and Slavs ? Happy Friday Arch :)

Posted by: Moonie | Jan 19 2024 16:52 utc | 91

Years ago I read him for a bit and found he wasn't worth reading.
Balochi are tight with India and India are tight with Zion. Hindutva looks at muslims in the same light as the zionists. Subhumans or pest humans that require extermination.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 16:40 utc | 84

Zionists view Muslims and Christians as inferior to Jews ("God's only children") who need to be removed from the land of Israel in order to bring about the Coming of the Messiah and the prosperity and power it is expected to bring to the Jews as a group over everyone else.

Hindutva view Muslims and Christians as inferior to Hindus who need to be removed from the land of India in order to bring about the Coming of their Gods to Earth (especially Raam) and the solving of all their problems.

Frankly, I have always seen Muslims and Christians having more in common with each other in terms of values as well as allies instead of Christians allying with Jews and Hindus against Muslims.

Both have the same values Jesus taught, and both value human life above material possessions. Hinduism with its castes does not, Judaism only values "God's only children", "the Chosen people", above everyone else.

"Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoron - all Christian values flow from Jesus and his teachings, which Muslims follow and Jews do not. Jews use their control of governments and media to promote pursuit of materialism, homosexuality, pedophilia and pornography in Christian societies lowering the birth rate while weakening white rule through supporting mass immigration.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 19 2024 16:56 utc | 92

@canuck | Jan 19 2024 15:14 utc | 53

I can't speak for all the bar flies but in my opinion mot of them do not want the 'destruction of the West'; what they want is the destruction of the Elite's power and, as such a reform of Western Imperialistic policies.
You can speak for me on this issue. That is what I want, and what needs to happen if there is going to be any 'West' left.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2024 16:56 utc | 93

Johnny@48
Most decent folks are only looking for the destruction of the leadership, oligarchs and the usual suspects behind the problems in the West.

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 19 2024 17:02 utc | 94

But why? What's the strategy?

Posted by b at 9:16 UTC

I believe the strategy is, "kill them all and let God sort it out", which is about all the US administration understands.

Posted by: madmarc | Jan 19 2024 17:03 utc | 95

Re: The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion.

I've always assumed that the 'forgery' accusation is a nudge-nudge wink-wink non-denial denial by Zionists.

If it was written to "raise one's spirits" I wouldn't relish meeting any 'one' upon whom it had that effect...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 19 2024 17:04 utc | 96

Arch@49
I hope that some of the shipping vessels owned by China and Russia and India can still get thru so that the shipping companies worldwide don't continue to gouge for commercial freight from here on out.

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 19 2024 17:06 utc | 97

I dont know if this has been mentioned before, but it might another reason explaining whats going on in Gaza, Yemen, and the Red sea and why India is there. It might also explain Saudis Arabia's foot dragging on joining BRICS. I would be careful about India's and SA's intentions if I was Russia and China.


" The India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC) is a planned economic corridor that aims to bolster economic development by fostering connectivity and economic integration between Asia, the Persian Gulf and Europe. The corridor is proposed from India to Europe through the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel and Greece."

https://www.cfr.org/article/future-imec-hinges-stable-west-asia

Posted by: Moonie | Jan 19 2024 17:18 utc | 98

squeethie-poo@1334

For decades after significant cultural "inoculation" I did not deign to actually open up and read those "Protocols" which you claim to be a fabrication. After an acquaintance gave me a copy, I finally broke down and read it. Shocked a bit when I discovered that many of the plans depicted in that document turned out to be quite prescient.

Could that squeaminess on my part have had any relationship to my having been ensorcelled for decades by the JudieChristie MagickMindfuck?

My recommendation for all those historically informed individuals who had/have trepidations towards reading that document, like my own long induced outlook...to simply read the thing and then make up your own mind whether it was indeed a fabrication or rather a blueprint.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 19 2024 17:19 utc | 99

bevin@ 63 and 65
You post a nonsensical and too long excerpt from some gibble named Korybho to confuse the already agreed upon issue that Iran/Paki are working together and then you come out with this goofy and imbecilic rant about the non-existence of the Protocols when there has been so much evidence from many sources as to it's reality including HenryMakow.com that you won't look at even though I have mentioned it a few times already.

This is the kind of mindless misdirection they want!! Don't do their work for them!! FFS!

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 19 2024 17:19 utc | 100

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