Has anyone been following the UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) saga unfolding in the USA (testimony of Dave Grusch under oath in Congress of crash retrieval of various "Non-human Intelligence" crafts over the past decades, the ensuing SCIF sessions and statements from senators etc.)?

If so, I'd be curious to see what you make of it.

My thoughts on possible scenarios are:

1. This is indeed real and some people who want disclosure have finally gained enough power or have seen cracks in the system through which they can push for it.
2. This is a psyop, which would explain why Grusch is still alive and speaking, with the purpose of creating a new threat that can keep the hoi polloi under fear and acceptance of draconian measures.
3. This is a fantasy stemming from circles that wish to push for money for the Pentagon either to face a possible threat or to "study the phenomenon".
4. This comes from competitors of some companies that have received unappropriated funds (Lockheed Martin, Raytheon etc.) and can now be held accountable and face scrutiny.
5. This is a power struggle between high-ranking people, in a game I don't have enough info to understand.
6. This is a psyop aimed at enemy governments, trying to convince them that the USA has undefeatable weapons.

I am personally agnostic on the issue. I think all of the above are possible, even a combination.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 15:10 utc | 1

It just boggles the mind that the US has entered a war against Yemen
for the purpose of supporting Genocide in Gaza.

War of Terror

Posted by: librul | Jan 28 2024 15:45 utc | 2

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 15:10 utc | 1

non-farm jobs saved and created
the end.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 28 2024 15:52 utc | 3

Lathe Biosas @1: "Has anyone been following the UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) saga unfolding in the USA...?"

It is normal for a society that is going off the rails with hysteria to "see things". Find an excited crowd in such a society and shout "Look! A UFO!" while pointing at absolutely nothing and at least half the crowd will swear on their favorite holy item they saw a mysterious object in the sky.

It's just another data point for tracking the post-Enlightenment degeneration of western culture into a new Dark Ages of mysticism and superstition. The economic engine of western society, capitalism, is moribund and directionless, but western society hasn't matured to where it can step up to the next economic paradigm, so as a result it will descend into a degenerate and benighted era until a new Renaissance dawns.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 28 2024 15:54 utc | 4

Seeing is believing
Believing is seeing

Posted by: li | Jan 28 2024 16:00 utc | 5

It just boggles the mind that the US has entered a war against Yemen
for the purpose of supporting Genocide in Gaza.

War of Terror

Posted by: librul | Jan 28 2024 15:45 utc | 2

It would be more mind-boggling if the united states of epstein didn't start a war for the purpose of supporting and creating more genocide. Especially when the jews are in question.

Posted by: Michael A | Jan 28 2024 16:00 utc | 6

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/01/russia-and-iran-finalize-20-year-deal-that-will-change-the-middle-east-forever.html

I didn’t see this article in b’s weekly roundup, so I’m posting it here. Important agreement between Russia and Iran.

Posted by: KMRIA | Jan 28 2024 16:13 utc | 7

"It just boggles the mind that the US has entered a war against Yemen
for the purpose of supporting Genocide in Gaza.

War of Terror

Posted by: librul | Jan 28 2024 15:45 utc | 2"

It makes more sense than attacking a big powerful country like China. Less dangerous by far!

Besides, Yemen is in the Bible, which appeals to Fundamentalist Prot voters. Supporting Israel eliminating the Canaanites will help speed up the Second Coming of Jesus, the End of the World, the Judgement. After that, the Fundies get to rule everyone else with rods of iron. Jews who don't turn Christian die along the way, but who cares?

Posted by: lester | Jan 28 2024 16:18 utc | 8

The Sahel is rising.

Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso quit ECOWAS regional block

Reuters
January 28, 20243:52 PM GMT+1Updated 37 min ago

NIAMEY/BAMAKO, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Three West African junta-led states Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso said on Sunday they are immediately leaving the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), a regional economic bloc that has been urging them to return to democratic rule.

The decision by the three countries, announced in a joint statement read out on Niger national television, is a blow to the bloc's regional integration efforts after it suspended the three countries following military takeovers.

...

"After 49 years, the valiant peoples of Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger regretfully and with great disappointment observe that the (ECOWAS) organization has drifted from the ideals of its founding fathers and the spirit of Pan-Africanism," Colonel Amadou Abdramane, Niger junta spokesman, said in the statement.

...

The three countries are also members of the eight-nation West African Monetary Union (UEMOA) that uses the West Africa CFA franc currency pegged to the Euro.
The monetary union, following decisions by ECOWAS leaders after the coups in Mali and Niger, had cut off their access to the regional financial market, and the regional central bank. It later restored Mali's access but Niger remains suspended.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/niger-mali-burkina-faso-say-they-are-leaving-ecowas-regional-block-2024-01-28/

Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2024 16:19 utc | 9

It is normal for a society that is going off the rails with hysteria to "see things".

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 28 2024 15:54 utc | 4

Thanks for the reply. Indeed, but I'm not referring to individual sightings, but to a former intelligence officer going the inspector general of the intelligence service with data about a program, and the latter deeming there is substantial allegations for further inspection.

This is the Congressional hearing I refer to, for those who don't know about it and are interested.

I don't think it's a coincidence this is coming out now, hence I've been following it closely for the past few months.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 16:28 utc | 10

The Oilprice article:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Russia-And-Iran-Finalize-20-Year-Deal-That-Will-Change-The-Middle-East-Forever.html

..was deservedly rebuked by A. Martyanov recently, and i can only agree, (despite often finding much of his commentary tainted with anti-European hatred and pro-Russian naivety and bias).

The simple reason being, Brahmos is an Indian missile, not Russian, while Avangard is a strategic nuclear missile, the likes of which would never be shared even with Iran, particularly since Iran has no nukes, precisely what the Avangard was designed to carry. The fact both are mentioned legitimately brings into question the author's competence and understanding of the subject matter he is trying to report on.

Posted by: Rubiconnned | Jan 28 2024 16:30 utc | 11

Lathe Biosas @10: "...I'm not referring to individual sightings, but to a former intelligence officer going the inspector general of the intelligence service with data about a program..."

"Intelligence" officers, huh? I'll bet they think those UFOs hacked the elections for Trump too, and secretly gave them "traumatic brain injuries".

On second thought, it was all just crickets.

"Intelligence" is just a brand name where these incompetent asshats are concerned, not a character trait.

Don’t underestimate the hysteria nor how deeply it is rooted in the Establishment.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 28 2024 16:40 utc | 12

@1 Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 15:10 utc

There's always been all kinds of weird stuff in the sky.

1b. It's real and the US gov is desperately trying to hide the fact that it doesn't have a clue.

Posted by: S.O. | Jan 28 2024 16:42 utc | 13

Dockers stop ZIM boxship from berthing in Melbourne

Great news. This is how you stop a genocide. Let every port worker internationally learn from these guys. A small revelation of the solution!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 28 2024 16:48 utc | 14

I’m adding this article from Gilbert Doctorow from last week, even though I think it I was linked by another barfly (Bevin?), because I think it’s related to the article I posted above: Posted by: KMRIA | Jan 28 2024 16:13 utc | 7

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2024/01/24/is-putins-decency-inviting-a-world-war-comments-on-a-new-article-by-paul-craig-roberts/

I found it surprisingly hawkish for Doctorow, but I agree wholeheartedly with his assessment, which might be boiled down to a belief that Putin needs to “shit or get off the pot”, as my grandmother might have said.

IMO, while the US is not a paper tiger, it seems to me that Putin may be overestimating the abilities of its military. Also, our industrial capacities are stretched to the limit and American society itself is under so much pressure that it’s impossible to miss the signs of unraveling. I won’t make this a long screed, there are enough excellent pieces on the topic already, but the decline I’m seeing around me is frightening and accelerating. This all to say that it seems to me to be the right time to make big moves to counter American attempts to preserve hegemony.

Posted by: KMRIA | Jan 28 2024 16:51 utc | 15

thanks b.... the article @ Ahenobarbus | Jan 28 2024 16:48 utc | 14 highlights is the first one i read... kudos to the aussies!

thanks for your post from today as well - War On UN - West Retaliates Against ICJ Order By Defunding Humanitarian Mission For Palestine..

right on @ William Gruff | Jan 28 2024 16:40 utc | 12 - sanity in an insane world is a nice change..

Posted by: james | Jan 28 2024 16:56 utc | 16

Ahenobarbus | Jan 28 2024 16:48 utc | 14

Harry Bridges was born near Sydney, might have been Melbourne though. Then there was the Jolly George:

'On 10 May 1920, dockers working on the East India Docks in east London refused to load munitions destined to be used against the Bolsheviks onto the Jolly George ship.

"Dockers threatened to walk out if bosses brought in troops to load the ship. The Jolly George sailed without its deadly cargo on 15 May..."

Posted by: bevin | Jan 28 2024 17:00 utc | 17

Re the Boeing whistle blower, it sounds like the very stereotype of Agile Project Management in practice.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Jan 28 2024 17:04 utc | 18

https://www.southfront.press/columns-of-military-equipment-heading-to-texas-border/

its about to happen folks..

Posted by: snake | Jan 28 2024 17:07 utc | 19

Attack on Al-Tanf US military base, 3 Officers dead, 24 personal wounded

Well, US didn't withdraw fast enough it seems. Resistance getting more confident and US getting drawn deeper into a war they can only lose.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 28 2024 17:09 utc | 20

Attack on Al-Tanf US military base, 3 Officers dead, 24 personal wounded

Well, US didn't withdraw fast enough it seems. Resistance getting more confident and US getting drawn deeper into a war they can only lose.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 28 2024 17:09 utc | 20

Elsewhere, it is described as "small US military base in NE Jordan near Syrian border, Tanf zone is in Syria and borders Jordan and Iraq. I wonder if we learned more details before subsequent attacks on US unwanted military in Syria, Iraq and Jordan.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 28 2024 17:14 utc | 21

Jordan says the base is not in Jordan.

Perhaps relevant is a recent Jordanian attack on "drug dealers" in Syria.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 28 2024 17:17 utc | 22

Lathe Biosas @1: "Has anyone been following the UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) saga unfolding in the USA...?"

It is normal for a society that is going off the rails with hysteria to "see things". Find an excited crowd in such a society and shout "Look! A UFO!" while pointing at absolutely nothing and at least half the crowd will swear on their favorite holy item they saw a mysterious object in the sky.

It's just another data point for tracking the post-Enlightenment degeneration of western culture into a new Dark Ages of mysticism and superstition. The economic engine of western society, capitalism, is moribund and directionless, but western society hasn't matured to where it can step up to the next economic paradigm, so as a result it will descend into a degenerate and benighted era until a new Renaissance dawns.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 28 2024 15:54 utc | 4

My thoughts exactly. It's a testament to an undermined educational system which teaches very little beyond state propaganda outside of the few stem offerings for a small number of students numerate and literate to actually learn something.

UFOs are just a distraction the media produces when the shit hits the fan militarily for the ruling class.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 28 2024 17:18 utc | 23

Continuing: "At least 34 personnel were being evaluated for possible traumatic brain injury, a U.S. official told Reuters." Why are all attacks on US military personnel in the region evaluated for "possible traumatic brain injury"? Peculiar weapons, peculiar helmet construction, peculiar shelters (shouldn't they be all padded by now)???

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 28 2024 17:19 utc | 24

"..It just boggles the mind that the US has entered a war against Yemen for the purpose of supporting Genocide in Gaza..." librul | Jan 28 2024 15:45 utc | 2

It is an unusually rational move on Washington's part. Yemen is setting the pace, if it can hold out, and I believe that it can, it is going to start an avalanche which will bury Zionism.
Already the attacks, in support of Gaza and Ansarullah, on the penny packets of US military personnel scattered over the Arab nations, have begun.
The only response has to be withdrawal, retreat: the US cannot bomb Syria and Iraq any more than it has done already. And bombing civilians has been -ever since Billy Mitchell's theories and the RAF's bombing in Iraq and Yemen- what the US always does to relieve pressure on its forces.
The Arabs have been at the 'nothing left to lose' stage for a long time. Now they are at the "world to win' stage.
It is up to the people of the imperial heartlands to put all the pressure they can on their governments, not to do anything positive, that's beyond their capacity, but to withdraw the automatic support that Israel has grown so used to getting that it no longer pretends to be democratic, liberal or humane.
The US, Canada and Europe will support it whatever it does- it wasn't long ago that the world was horrified at the crimes of Baruch Goldstein, now it meets genocidalist cabinet ministers under the murderer's portrait.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 28 2024 17:22 utc | 25

Jordan says the base is not in Jordan.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 28 2024 17:17 utc | 22

---

Update

The number of injured as a result of the attack has increased and 34 military personnel are being examined for possible brain injuries

https://t.me/s/SabrenNews22

Also, SabrenNews22 says the strike happened in Jordan.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2024 17:23 utc | 26

In case a link has not already been posted, here are
comments on ICJ findings by Craig Murray.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 28 2024 17:30 utc | 27

Continuing: "At least 34 personnel were being evaluated for possible traumatic brain injury, a U.S. official told Reuters." Why are all attacks on US military personnel in the region evaluated for "possible traumatic brain injury"? Peculiar weapons, peculiar helmet construction, peculiar shelters (shouldn't they be all padded by now)???

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 28 2024 17:19 utc | 24

I wonder about that too, it reeks of dissembling. Traumatic brain injury could mean a wide variety of harms, from nothing too much to dead.

I am guessing from the news that Biden wants to hype it, this attack.

The question then is why, what for does he want to do that? Who is he going to bomb next?

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 28 2024 17:33 utc | 28

Iraqi resistance forces have targeted six US-occupied military bases in Syria and neighboring Iraq in retaliation for Washington’s support for the Israeli war on the Gaza Strip and in a show of strong solidarity with Palestinians.

Sabereen News, a Telegram news channel associated with Iraqi anti-terror Popular Mobilization Units, reported that the al-Tanf base in southeastern Syria near the border with Jordan and Iraq had come under attack by armed unmanned aerial vehicles.

Separately, an explosive-laden drone had struck the US-run facility in al-Shaddadi town, situated about 50 kilometers (31 miles) south of Syria’s northeastern city of Hasakah, on Sunday morning.

There were no immediate reports about the extent of damage at the sites, and possible casualties.

Earlier, combat drones had targeted the US-occupied bases in Khirbat ‘Adnan village in Hasakah province, and at the Rukban district in southeastern Syria near the Jordanian border.

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq, an umbrella group of anti-terror fighters, in a statement published on its Telegram channel on Saturday evening, claimed responsibility for the drone strike on the US-run Ain al-Asad Air Base in Iraq's western province of Anbar.

In a separate statement, the group announced that a salvo of rockets had slammed into a military base housing US occupation forces at Conoco gas field in Syria's eastern province of Dayr al-Zawr.

...

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/01/28/719017/Iraqi-resistance-targets-five-US-bases-in-Syria,-Iraq-in-solidarity-with-Gaza

Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2024 17:37 utc | 29

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 15:10 utc | 1 etc. etc.
(US Intelligence wonks possess alien space craft)

Don't worry. The Yanks love Science Fiction as much as anyone else, and make regular and ongoing contributions - such as this one.
Unfortunately, Astro-physicists, Fusion researchers and Quantum Mechanics researchers are soaking up ALL of the available Blue Sky research cash.
And no-one has found a Goldilocks planet within 100 light years from Earth.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 28 2024 17:59 utc | 30

Posted by: bevin | Jan 28 2024 17:22 utc | 25

US troops are scattered all over Iraq and Syria. If their supply route to Gulf port bases are disrupted, that will significantly disrupt supply of all those scattered bases. They will run out of whatever air defense munitions quickly against cheaper drones and after that a higher proportion of hits will start producing body bags (as it is now).

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 28 2024 18:10 utc | 31

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 15:10 utc | 1

2. This is a psyop, which would explain why Grusch is still alive and speaking, with the purpose of creating a new threat that can keep the hoi polloi under fear and acceptance of draconian measures.

3. This is a fantasy stemming from circles that wish to push for money for the Pentagon either to face a possible threat or to "study the phenomenon".

----

My choices are 2 and 3. There is a lot of publicity about "Skinwalker Ranch" - one of those places where "spooky" things happen.

Hardly coincidentally, SR is owned by a long-time UAP nutcase named Robert Bigelow. He used to own an aerospace company. Check out this Wired magazine story from 2010:

Inside Robert Bigelow's Decades-Long Obsession With UFOs

The hype is to attract funds for unspecified "advanced technology" research.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 28 2024 18:18 utc | 32

regular and ongoing contributions
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 28 2024 17:59 utc | 30

I've lost count of how many times D.C. monuments have been blown to smithereens in sci-fi flicks.

strana.ua capped ICJ's performance by promoting the April premiere of Civil War, directed by Alex Garland. That's some top drawer trolling, for sure! [OFFICIAL TRAILER]

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 28 2024 18:21 utc | 33

Lathe Biosas might like this story from my childhood:

My best friend was in central Melbourne during school holidays. He noticed a small crowd gathered around a man who was jumping and clapping his hands together as high as he could reach.

A man in the crowd asked him what he was doing and he replied "Catching Gnumphs."
My friend was hooked and asked "What do they look like?"
To which the jumper replied
"Dunno. Haven't caught one yet."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 28 2024 18:26 utc | 34

And no-one has found a Goldilocks planet within 100 light years from Earth.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 28 2024 17:59 utc | 30
...................,....

Acc. to some old texts there are limitless number of such realms but they are in parallel dimensions, not this one; akin to dream worlds.

Also within the Earth, many other parallel worlds.

Some adepts separately visit such realms, have conversations and encounters there with each other which they can recall later in this world, comparing notes as it were.

Imo this is a more likely way of 'space travel': dimension shifting.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 28 2024 18:56 utc | 35

Piotr [email protected], besides the obvious, your brains just got scrambled and your best friend in the cot beside you has a ceiling girder protruding from his chest.....,yeah, suck it up soldier.

Cheers M

....padded, is the room they put you in when you can't escape the ghosts of the dead that roam your head ....

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 28 2024 18:57 utc | 36

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015795/Tigers-rampage-Russia-killing-humans-eating-dogs.html

Blame Putin ! He saved tigers and they are eating Russians (and dogs) ! It's all his fault !

Seriously, this Russophobic nonsense knows no bounds. Maybe he should release them in Galicia.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 28 2024 19:05 utc | 37

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, barflies.

Of course this whole UAP thing could be indications of a crumbling milieu, or simply BS. Indeed this should be on the list, as well as 1b S.O. mentioned. I've included those in my "list".

I have a gut feeling there's more in this story, so much publicity is not wasted without an underlying cause. I guess the future will show.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 19:11 utc | 38

Your second MacGregor / American Conservative link is broken
2024: The Coming Foreign Policy Peril

2024: The Coming Foreign Policy Peril - Macgregor / American Conservative
The explosive situation in the Middle East threatens to lay bare our strategic weaknesses
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/2024-the-coming-peril/

Posted by: The Owl | Jan 28 2024 19:38 utc | 39

The position of the Australian government has nothing to do with the general feeling among the people. There has never been more than minuscule support for Israel - we got taught the holocaust was bad but the Zionism bug never caught on like our American bully/brother.

As I’m sure most know…just feel the need to say because god damn our name is on some disgusting lists at this point.

Posted by: Rae | Jan 28 2024 19:45 utc | 40

Thanks for the link, The Owl 39. By the way, Andrei Martyanov takes issue with the Simon Watkins assertion in that Oil Price article, particularly where it says:
“Selected IRGC [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] personnel will be trained on the latest Russian upgrades of several short- and long-range missiles - the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal, the Iskander M, the RS-26 Rubezh, the BrahMos3, and the Avangard - before the plan to manufacture them under licence in Iran begins, with the aim being to have 30 percent of them stay in Iran, with the rest being sent back to Russia,”
It quotes a "senior E.U. security sector source". Really? Hmmmm...

Posted by: Maracatu | Jan 28 2024 19:48 utc | 41

Hello - asking this here as some of you might be aware of the War News Update aggregator blog. Anyone know what's happened to Victor Lamp? He hasn't updated the blog in over a week which is very unusual.

Posted by: Teal | Jan 28 2024 19:53 utc | 42

There are no parallel dimensions required to conceive encounters with other beings in a realm "beyond this world".

In fact, "this world" is a signifier relating to experience made in a subset of all the experience that is actually possible, and actually being made. This is not an empty statement. Here goes the argument:

1 - Note that it is logically incorrect to assume any objective outside world without complimentary awareness; all "things" are either contingent on their experience (like physicists' experiments), or they are pure imaginations. The apparent stability of many (or most) phenomena we come across daily does not preclude the point; cf. quantum mechanics.

2 - Objective outside world processes, however notional or real they may be, cannot possibly satisfy the assumption that our awareness [nous; the ability to have experiences] is a however complex structural alignment of such processes. It's called the mind/body problem, and affirmation of the naturalist/materialist answer would necessitate a proper argument ("proof"). This is impossible for reasons that concern the framework of any such argument itself, mathematics, where this inability of the method can be shown using its own methodology, and so even in various ways. Goedel's theorem is one of them, Poincaré's theorem is another, and the axiom of choice (reflecting the role of synthetic apperception in any constitution of "things") is yet a third.

3 - If the above is true, we need to ask if time and space are of the nature Kant ascribes to them ("synthetische Urteile a priori") - the idea being that time and space are preconceived notions of a sort that is not by itself derived from experience - or whether they might be not. Since spatio-temporal dimensional realms are insufficient to produce - "describe" - objective experience on both sides of the noesis/noema moment of awareness, in its essence, I suggest to drop the idea.

4 - It follows that time and space are generalizations of a specific type of experience we make (an applied case of logical concept); the point being that we must see them as a subset of all possible experience. The presence of the individual now (being-here-ness) tied into a transcending notion is what CG Jung wonderfully named synchronicity; it happens upon telepathic contact, in precognition, and even in swinging jazz bands playing along freely.

5 - There are countless reports from all times where people experience paranormal phenomena like telepathic contact, possibly even with spirits whose presence is not tied into a spatio-temporal physique, like ancestors, angels and demons, and aliens; or, more commonly experienced, your pal on the telephone (and sometimes your mama, telling you that you're pregnant), or simply your dog or horse (as both animals seem quite fond of psychic understanding to me). There are also cleanly made empirical studies on the subject which provide clear results on experience being made transcending both space and time.

Sorry for again riding my horse through town, but it's hard to resist sometimes ...

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 28 2024 20:06 utc | 43

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 28 2024 16:28 utc | 10

No UFO. No Extraterrestrials! Why would them exhibit themselves only to the US Air Force radars ?

It was nothing more than flying robotic devices, drone or balloons, which the Chinese used for electronic spying.

They were stealth, and fitted with a smart transponder which simulated the distance from the american radar. Hence the incredible speed and acceleration.

In the military bureaucracy of USA, the observers of such "UFOs" had nothing to gain in reporting their "sighting". Neither was the hierarchy willing to seriously understand what happened. Therefore the Chinese kept undetected for many years while they spied the US military.

Two or three years ago, the Pentagon understood how much it has been played for many years by the Chineses. Then it feared (reasonnably) the Chineses could use that history to ridicule and humiliate it.

For half the public, it's enough if the Pentagon denies that chinese history.
But the other half would prefer to think that the pentagon is hiding something. Therefore the pentagon gives them a reality show, where "the pentagon is hiding UFO", as an ersatz of hidden truth.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Jan 28 2024 20:09 utc | 44

Concerning again the Oil Price piece, I just now saw Rubiconnned's [11] acknowledgement of Martyanov's response. And furthermore, if you read the first comment to Naked Capitalism's reproduction of the Oil Price piece {hat tip to KMRIA [7]}, Des Hanrahan nails it as do the follow up comments by The Rev Kev and Polar Socialist.

Posted by: Maracatu | Jan 28 2024 20:12 utc | 45

A few years ago, that Simon Watkins of oilprice announced an important Iran-Russia deal. Something like a russian naval base on the Iranian shore. It stinked bullshit, and I perfectly remember when I discovered here in MOA that bernhardt had taken the pain to disassemble the Watkin's fantasy.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Jan 28 2024 20:28 utc | 46

@ persiflo 43

Very intriguing comment. I have some anecdotal real life stories, what happened in my immediate family, of either 'precognition' or 'happenstance', "Zufall" - which are too long to describe here.

My 'take' on this subject is - there could be 'forces' or 'fields' or other intangible phenomena in the universe which are not known to humans; just like the electrical/magnetical fields were not known until relatively recently.

Posted by: fanto | Jan 28 2024 20:33 utc | 47

bevin @17
I was not aware of the Jolly George incident. I will have to read up on it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Posted by: AJ | Jan 28 2024 20:34 utc | 48

@fanto - Are you aware of Rupert Sheldrake's work? What you hint above seems close to his suggestion of what he calls morphogenetic fields.

Sheldrake is a class act of a scientist, he's written many books and gave great talks and interviews. He's very open, sincere and meticulous in his reasoning; I can only recommend to check him out.

But his basic point is, in the end, insufficient. The fields are spatio-temporal (actually, a "vector" force field is the most general idea of spatio-temporal relations that are measured in terms of real numbers); hence, a reductionist approach should be sufficient to "catch" a signal going from one telepathically entangled being to the other -- I'm basically quoting himself here.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 28 2024 20:48 utc | 49

“Lavrov brought cookies for the Texas revolution”
https://t.me/myLordBebo/21148

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2024 20:59 utc | 50

@ persiflo | Jan 28 2024 20:06 utc | 43 and 49 about paranormal behavior...thanks

I wish I had my copy of the book but it is lent out and not back yet. I am talking about Becoming Psychic by Jeff Tarrant

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Becoming-Psychic/Jeff-Tarrant/9780757324789

He is my healer and way into EEG science. This book can explain to you what are bodies do when we are being psychic but it is just the epiphenomena of whatever it is our bodies are doing, the brain waves that these people consistently exhibit when they are being psychic.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 28 2024 21:03 utc | 51

"Like strings connecting us, and us with God, the planets and the ancestors; but not from Stoff" - Mani, a persian prophet, about connections of light, called lihme; itself a coptic or possibly arabic word (L-H-M) that also denounces the sticky strings when making a dough, and the network of irrigation canals people built. Berlin dwellers might appreciate the conncection to lahmacun (turkish pizza).

I see the lihme as spatio-temporal representation (probably "coming to the senses" at times) of what would be encounter between beings in a realm of pure nous. Again CG Jung has a word: the collective subconsconsious.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 28 2024 21:03 utc | 52

@ 23 Ahenobarus, Gruff, @ persifilo 49

I am inclined to agree with Walker Percy when he quotes Nietzsche that man is the only creature in the universe that is an alien to himself.

I guess that proves Chesterton right when he wrote that so many people are consumed with objects and beings outside themselves, forever interested in things to classify and categorize. But Chesteron knew that of everything knowable in the universe, man's being was the only thing worthy of the mysterious, indelible image of God.

From Percy's 'Lost in the Cosmos,' I always remember the chapter of the human space shuttle making radio contact with an alien planet. Knowing the human planet had all but perished in a nuclear war while the astronauts were out, the aliens beat around the bush about communicating this truth to the astronauts in the dark, finally sending them on to another planet with another race of beings who had mankind's peculiar problem of unawareness and, as a result, inherent violence.

No alien race capable of lightyear travel would dare set foot upon this rock because they know who they would be communicating with would be stone cold crazy.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 21:10 utc | 53

If all you did was the 'week in review' it would still be the best news site around. Thanks for tireless efforts again b.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 28 2024 21:33 utc | 54

Norwegian | Jan 28 2024 20:59 utc | 50--

Can't read it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 28 2024 21:34 utc | 55

@karlof1 | Jan 28 2024 21:34 utc | 55

For some reason you need Telegram to see it. It is obviously a joke, returning the services of Victoria Nuland. I copied the image to https://postimg.cc/0r3BZ9Ww

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2024 21:42 utc | 56

From Taibbi's piece (Racket News): The piece quoted an array of former high-ranking officials, all insisting Trump will misuse the Department of Defense to execute civilian political aims.

You have to laugh: the USA's 20th century prosperity was built on the "misus[ing] the Department of Defense to execute civilian political aims". The New Deal, WW2, everything the military has been used for since 1945, etc, etc.

What purpose do people think the military serves if not to be the muscle of the state, in turn the muscle of the ruling class? Oh, that's right, freedomfreedomfreedom...

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 28 2024 21:44 utc | 57

"I am inclined to agree with Walker Percy when he quotes Nietzsche that man is the only creature in the universe that is an alien to himself."

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 21:10 utc | 53

Below is a quote unattributed as I had copied it sometime ago and lost the authorship , anyways I thought it wise:

"Nietzsche differentiates human from animal with respect to the fufillment of potential, however, is such a statement valid? Nietzsche is seeming to say that our ability to reason has consequently lead to a hesitation to reach our fullest potential, however, societal expectation requires a conformity to norms which creates a tradeoff between potential and social integration. Something that animals doesn't need to contend with. As such, can we truly reach our fullest potential independent of the requirements of societal expectations?"

Posted by: canuck | Jan 28 2024 21:50 utc | 58

I would also like to thank b! - As you can see in my arguments above, they *cough* work out because I carefully tread a line from the side of what can actually be guaranteed as known. Even if this faults, which at times must happen, you can revisit the argument and find the error.

I swear that I learned this style of thinking from b, here on the Moon of Alabama.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 28 2024 21:55 utc | 59

@ 58 canuck

I was just reading something by Susan Sontag about Riefenstahl, the German filmmaker. I don't agree entirely with Sontag's take on the director, and the postwar narrative of her involvement with the Nazis parralels Heidegger's. It's an interesting question to examine.

However, Riefenstahl's films often use mountain imagery as a metaphor for the will-to-power as well as the theme of individual versus society (her films often had a beautiful lead misunderstood by her village, etc.). Where am I going with this?

I am a Catholic but I will not dismiss wholesale the work of Nietzsche, nor Heidegger, nor Riefenstahl. There was a truth for the German people that Hitler touched upon and that was the absolute raw and murderous deal the Germans got by the British and the allies. That Germany skyrocketed to success in the face of such calamity through the NSDAP' ascension while the rest of the west languished in the post-depression years must have done something crazy to the average German's perception of the events around them. It must have seen like the Furher had truly broken through and that the Triumph of the Will to power had really occurred.

We can touch these writers and see what they may have been hinting at. But we can not judge them to be evil or good in a vacuum. Even Marx of which I am no fan has offered much to chew on, particularly I suppose his thoughts on alienation and technology.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 22:14 utc | 60

Now the 'hawks' are calling for direct strikes inside Iran in response to the Iranians (allegedly) targeting American troops in Jordan.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/28/gop-biden-iran-soldier-deaths

As far as the election goes, one wonders whether a war with Iran would help or hurt Biden and the Dims. What isn't in question is that it'd be a major disaster in the mid- long term.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:15 utc | 61

RE: the alien life form/technology stuff - Think about the timing. Would any of this shit have been headline grabbing (or manufacturing) "news" during the months of December 2021 - April 2022? I highly doubt it. They trot this shit out periodically to keep the masses occupied in between Imperial actions abroad and political "fake news" stories at home.

If this guy was really a whistle blower, he'd provide more details. What I have read in his testimony and commentary sounds like he's been watching too many sci-fi movies. And if in fact they have had access to alien tech all these years, where is the real world technology in use which only could have been developed with the advantage of recovered alien tech? Or how about medical advances?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:20 utc | 62

The hype is to attract funds for unspecified "advanced technology" research.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 28 2024 18:18 utc | 32

Agreed, and this "advanced technology" will conveniently find a use (whether in real life or for propaganda) against the Chinese.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:22 utc | 63

LOL. There's always a negative to anything positive attributable to Putin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13015795/Tigers-rampage-Russia-killing-humans-eating-dogs.html

Putin saves endangered species, BUT the species is now killing humans and dogs! Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:28 utc | 64

America is not looking for war with Iran; If there is a wider conflict with Iran, we will respond.

We are sure that we have the ability to respond in the event of a wider conflict.

If we have to enter into a wider conflict, we must act with caution.

🔹 Our goal is to deter and at the same time protect the American forces, not to enter into a large-scale conflict and full-scale war - IRNA
https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1751721169948946727

Translation:

Our logistic chains and production is so strained and messed up that we are afraid, no, we know, you will kick our butt.

The end result then has every potential to be the will then be Iraqi militias and people, US packing out of Syria and Iraq.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 28 2024 22:34 utc | 65

this is interesting. Houthis change the thousands of years old paradigm of naval blockades. Mulitipolarity shifts from Unipolarity.

Everything You’re Told About The Global Economy Is Wrong | Aaron Bastani Meets Philip Pilkington

Novara Media 1hr 30 if your up to it, set speed to x1.25 / x1.5, and skim to key issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exjLSxKenE

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Jan 28 2024 22:35 utc | 66

As far as the election goes, one wonders whether a war with Iran would help or hurt Biden and the Dims. What isn't in question is that it'd be a major disaster in the mid- long term.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:15 utc | 61

It’s worth noting that Americans have always loved war—as long as they think they’re winning.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 28 2024 22:36 utc | 67

Anyone see this yet?

https://dnyuz.com/2024/01/27/a-famed-analysts-final-forecast-is-the-fall-of-the-u-s-economy/

Last week, a few hours after completing a spot on Bloomberg television, the 83-year-old announced his retirement. He took that weekend off — and then jumped right back in. In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Bove (pronounced “boe-VAY”), who goes by Dick, shared a dire outlook on the U.S. economy and his former profession.

“The dollar is finished as the world’s reserve currency,” Mr. Bove said matter-of-factly, perched in an armchair outside his home office just north of Tampa, from which he predicted that China will overtake the U.S. economy. No other analysts will say the same because they are, as he put it, “monks praying to money,” unwilling to speak out on the mainstream financial system that employs them.

Many analysts are rewarded for coming up with unique but inconsequential and “arcane” ideas, he said, peppering his criticism with profanities. Mr. Bove worked at 17 brokerage firms during his career.

As he spoke, a technician was trying to restore his home internet after his final employer, the boutique brokerage Odeon Capital, pulled the plug on his last day.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:37 utc | 68

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 28 2024 20:06 utc | 43

2 Objective outside world processes, however notional or real they may be, cannot possibly satisfy the assumption that our awareness [nous; the ability to have experiences] is a however complex structural alignment of such processes. It's called the mind/body problem, and affirmation of the naturalist/materialist answer would necessitate a proper argument ("proof"). This is impossible for reasons that concern the framework of any such argument itself, mathematics, where this inability of the method can be shown using its own methodology, and so even in various ways. Goedel's theorem is one of them, Poincaré's theorem is another, and the axiom of choice (reflecting the role of synthetic apperception in any constitution of "things") is yet a third.

3 - If the above is true, we need to ask if time and space are of the nature Kant ascribes to them ("synthetische Urteile a priori") - the idea being that time and space are preconceived notions of a sort that is not by itself derived from experience - or whether they might be not. Since spatio-temporal dimensional realms are insufficient to produce - "describe" - objective experience on both sides of the noesis/noema moment of awareness, in its essence, I suggest to drop the idea.

4 - It follows that time and space are generalizations of a specific type of experience we make (an applied case of logical concept); the point being that we must see them as a subset of all possible experience.....

Very interesting post (as usual). Not sure I understand it all, but in response feel inspired to offer a description of time and space as I conceive them. My personal library – both digital on hardrive and hundreds of texts – vanished in flames years ago so am left only with what remains within, which is a both relative-particular and absolute-general experiential realm. What is often called ‘reality’ I call ‘experiential continuum’, a term have read nowhere else.

Continuum means it is without beginning or end, like the ever-present present ‘moment’ of awareness. Experiential means that it exists when some sort of awareness principle is in effect, or nous. This particular experiential continuum we are collectively dreaming, as it were, follows certain rules, some of which manifest to us as space and time (other rules or norms being colours, sounds, smells, touch, taste and more). Three dimensional space is a product of the experiential perception-creation of particular place, for example a ‘here’ versus a ‘there’. The relative world of experience features particularities, each particular point being different from any other, both in terms of location and manifest qualities (shape, movement, colour etc.). No two pebbles are the same, just as every one of us eight billion humans is unique. The very creation of location in space, of the dimension in which ‘here’ is different from ‘there’, of this versus that, of the multiplicitous Many, is perhaps what you mean by ‘type of experience we make’ but if not I would say that indeed such three dimensional space in which particularities can be experienced is indeed ‘made’ by us. We create it within an experiential continuum in which particularity is understood-perceived as such, otherwise there would only be formless cosmic consciousness without place or shape in which the Many is all One without differentiation-particularity.

Time is (experientially) what it takes for us to move in (seeming three-dimensional) space from here to there through a series of seeming ‘moments’. Such moments don’t exist objectively and yet do experientially just as the distance between Here and There doesn’t actually exist objectively and yet does experientially. For that perception to occur we have to have folded universal formless space – without time, dimension or location – into a ‘particularity-relativity container’ such as a ‘mind-body organism’, some sort of ‘relative reference point matrix’ (known as ‘me’!). This operates according to certain rules otherwise we wouldn’t be able to share coordinates and all navigate through such the world together as we clearly do (including animals, insects, plants etc.).

The reason the ‘mind-body problem’ exists is that once we have folded (or collapsed) open-ended non-particularized experience into a particularity container we cannot also experience this as absolute universal formlessness at the same time. (Well, it is said that true mystics indeed do this, but when they do they cannot describe such experience using language and in states of being experiencing the relative experiential space-time framework, perhaps similar to how an eyeball cannot see itself.)

Put very simply: without nous/conscious awareness, there is no such thing as space or time. Time is easier to grock this way somehow but space is actually the same. We literally create it. (Which is why nemesis quote by Chesterston is right on the money – thank you.)

Indeed, my personal unverified assumption is that the physical human brain (and other organs) both sends and receives, in other words perceiving space and time even as it creates it, weaving it like invisible waves somehow manifest as sounds and shapes on a television screen; here, though, the screen is what we perceive-experience as four dimensional space-time itself, this our ‘experiential continuum’. We are literally dreaming it up and all creatures great and small, including inanimate objects like rocks, planets etc, are part of that particular warp and woof, or space-time rules-based frequency matrix which we all share.

(Which is why all life is sacred and why societies without awareness of the sacred founder into aimless, and then ultimately degraded, ignorance that is materialism.)

Now there could be other frequencies co-existing with our own knitting together different types of space and time altogether which would be quite different from psychic phenomena which have more to do with seeing past our own individuated patterning to pick up on the same patterning simultaneously going on in others all the time since we are all participating in the same ‘experiential continuum’. Something like that. But if so, they are beyond our ken so who cares?

(I couldn’t keep this to my usual 250 word limit, sorry!)

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 28 2024 22:43 utc | 69

21:01 GMT

Republican Senators Lindsey Graham, Tom Cotton, and John Cornyn called for the US to bomb Iran in response to the deaths, which they framed as the inevitable outcome of the presidential administration of Joe Biden being too soft on the Islamic Republic.

“I’ve long since lost confidence in the Biden national security team to deter Iran,” Graham told media. “If they do not change their policies now, more American service members in the region will pay the price. Hit Iran now. Hit them hard.”

“The only answer to these attacks must be devastating military retaliation against Iran’s terrorist forces, both in Iran and across the Middle East,” Cotton agreed, arguing, “Anything less will confirm Joe Biden as a coward unworthy of being commander-in-chief.”

“Target Tehran,” Cornyn wrote in a post on X (formerly Twitter).

Yes please Do it do it do it America! .... and then don't stop until you yourself are finally stopped and totally defeated with an Occupying Military Government installed in DC for at least two or maybe 3 decades, the destruction of all WMD in your possession and the means to deliver them are destroyed as well, your nation split onto four separate nations with new Constitutions voted on by the People, with non-aggression enshrined in them like Japan and Germany were, and strict UNSC ordered controls over the size of any defense forces and armaments with UN Forces stationed permanently in those nations for 50 years as an occupying supervisory force to ensure compliance.

Why? Because clearly the American People are incapable of governing themselves with outside assistance and control.

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Jan 28 2024 22:55 utc | 70

https://www.unz.com/article/huawei-5g-and-the-fourth-industrial-revolution/

Good article on 5G generally as well as Huawei in particular.

(And why I'm moving to a rural area where hopefully it won't be installed for many, many years to come, though this article doesn't go into the health concerns that the technology engenders.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 28 2024 23:09 utc | 71

Scorpion | Jan 28 2024 23:09 utc | 70

Any chance you could move someplace so remote from 5G you'll actually have no internet connection?

Just a thought. Planting seeds.

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Jan 28 2024 23:21 utc | 72

"We can touch these writers and see what they may have been hinting at. But we can not judge them to be evil or good in a vacuum. Even Marx of which I am no fan has offered much to chew on, particularly I suppose his thoughts on alienation and technology."

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 22:14 utc | 60

I took a course in school, "Kierkegaard and Nietzsche" taught by a German professor. I knew not much about either when I signed up (I was 21) but I first thought they were an odd pairing.

Much of what the erudite Professor pointed out to me was over my head, yet I did understand one thing-by total different paths both philosophers determined that man was his own agent-ie the beginning of "existentialism."

One of Nietzsche's ideas I found fascinating: his idea of Eternal Recurrence.

His idea was that materiel, now matter how much exists in the Universe, it is finite. Time is infinite. Hence, everything that can happen will happen. Not only that, it will happen over and over and over again for Eternity.

So one day maybe 10 trillion years from now a Hero will emerge and in the same day he or she will slay Biden, Sunak , Netanyahu and just for kicks Hillary, Van der Leyen and Schwab and he will appoint bevin to run the world..

It will happen.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 28 2024 23:24 utc | 73

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 28 2024 23:09 utc | 70

I have yet to see any legitimate data supporting the claims that 5G is effectively any more dangerous than other wireless RF transmission protocols/technologies, with a couple of disclaimers. As long as you don't live underneath a cell tower (of any kind), keep your phone as far away from yourself as possible when sleeping, and don't talk for an extended period with the phone pressed to your ear (I use speaker as often as possible), you should be fine. It remains to be seen how powerful the millimeter component of (some) 5g deployments will end up being once fully deployed. The technology doesn't necessarily need millimeter waves to work.

Disclaimer: That said, many of us already live in toxic wireless radiation environments, so adding 5G (which will replace other protocols, meaning the others mostly go away) to such environments will likely have a negligible additional effect. That said, I don't think "the science" is clear on just how bad it is for humans to be penetrated by non-ionizing RF radiation 24/7/365.

This is a somewhat interesting article on it with no real conflicts of interest:

https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/5g-health-risks-debunked-by-science/

Another perspective:

https://www.wired.com/story/worried-5g-health-effects-dont-be/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 23:27 utc | 74

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 23:27 utc | 73

Sorry, I meant to say that the first article didn't really contain any conflicts of interest, but the site and the guy running it definitely does, LOL. See his "Recommended Protections" page for example. I'm buying my anti-5g necklace pendant now...

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 23:30 utc | 75

Hoarsewhisper @ 30

Proxima Centauri at 4.2 light years from Earth has a hospitable planet for colonization...

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 28 2024 23:34 utc | 76

Excellent and much encompassing article on Boeing today at RT:

https://www.rt.com/business/591332-boeing-wall-street-profit/

Worth reading in its entirety, although the themes within will be well known to MoA readers.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 23:49 utc | 77

@ 72 canuck

Yes, a very odd pairing indeed but both deeply skeptical of societal norms and mores.

I have read and thought about Kierkegaard far moreso than Nietzsche.

Kierkegaard's greatest gift to future thought was his notion that anxiety can be a good thing. It can propel us on a path properly understood to be uniquely ours. The secular existentialists took this and ran with it away from God and towards all kinds of debauchery, but this was not what was intended at all, really, by the author.

The authentically religious life for Kierkegaard was the life to be most admired and venerated, but understanding what constitutes such a life is so incredibly hard as to be impossible. And so he began with Fear and Trembling, which is an attunement to the story of the sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham. For Kierkegaard, a religious life of faith was something so impossibly difficult that one might have to kill his only son, the son that he loved. Kierkegaard thought:

this sacrificing of Issac by his father meant that the charge of murder would have been leveled at Abraham by his peers who would not understand what Abraham had been called to do. This means that a religious life separates you from the others by the wholly Other. Contrast this notion to the idea that a religious life in Copenhagen at the time meant a good job, a decent wife, and 5.5 children. Not far removed from a modernist understanding of religious life, indeed! Kierkegaard meant to challenge the individual and the same can be said for Nietzsche, but for Kierkegaard this meant a far deeper relationship with God than understood conventionally.

In many ways, Kierkegaard's thought is really a deconstruction of religious life, a ripping back from everydayness what has been stolen, given proper understanding again as a gift.

A final thought is that in his final years, Kierkegaard was so lambasted by the popular media and the city in which he lived that even children were told nasty things about that man in the street who would separate himself from his labor of writing to walk the city and talk with the people. "Soren" as a name was deeply unpopular for the next generation, and this tells you all you need to know about the way in which Kierkegaard suffered tremendously for his special talent. I am reminded of certain proverbs that rail against all those who speak so ill of the narrator. Kierkegaard truly was a Saint as he collapsed on the street one day and died shortly thereafter.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 23:54 utc | 78

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 22:20 utc | 62

They trot this shit out periodically to keep the masses occupied in between Imperial actions abroad and political "fake news" stories at home.

If this guy was really a whistle blower, he'd provide more details... And if in fact they have had access to alien tech all these years, where is the real world technology in use...

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Yes. You have to have been around the block a few times to recognize the recurrent nature of these scams. Each generation's curious people keep being sidetracked by the usual CT topics: UFOs/aliens, secrets of the pyramids, the Knights Templars and the Holy Grail, etc.

My favorite CT on UFOs comes from John Keel (The Mothman Prophecies). He says that the phenomenon (whatever it is) is Fortean - that is, the more you interact with it, the crazier it makes you. His advice is just to stay away from it.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 28 2024 23:56 utc | 79

Tom Q Collins @ 73
It's sooo weird that those looking to debunk a proven scenario are heard the loudest while the real, scientific articles get memory-holed.
There is even a Marine Intelligence account of the micro-burst weapon created on this tech but nobody wants to hear that when there's billions to be made in Communications!
Another tidbit of damning info is a graph that shows how much radiation (wave saturation) a human body can endure. European Safety agency shows safe exposure is 12 units per square metre while 5G upper band (18GHZ) has 160 units per square metre. Seriously hazardous!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 28 2024 23:58 utc | 80

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 28 2024 23:27 utc | 73

During a long, difficult journey with chronic Lyme Disease (undiagnosed for 10+ years) I discovered how harmful existing 4G cell phone towers and cell phones are for chronic conditions - and 5G is 4G on steroids. One well-regarded Lyme Doctor, Dr. Klinghart, won't even treat people if their houses are too close to cell towers and/or they don't disable their routers. Certain EM frequencies stimulate microbes, especially brain bacteria, promoting chronic inflammation/infection and all but preventing any cure. (This has been proven.)

Also, for a while I lived in a house with a smart meter on the outside of the bedroom wall only a yard away from my head which I believe caused truly vicious insomnia, the single most painful ordeal have endured this life until I outsmarted that smart meter by leaving the house (and State!). The previous occupant, the owner’s daughter, committed suicide less than a year later.

Presumably not all are as sensitive to such things, but doubtless many more than acknowledged by conventional doctors – and again this just with 4G and early model smart meters. So, respectfully, I don't care what any 5G studies conclude given what a lousy job they did viz 4G damage and notwithstanding your kind advice will still move to my recently built home where hopefully no such towers will be built in my lifetime!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 29 2024 0:10 utc | 81

Scorpion @ 80

There is now all manner of protective sheet sets and pillow cases made to stymie EM frequencies although I wouldn't pay the expense to test them out. One story from a friend that concerned me back in 2016 was this guy who suffered weird headaches, psychotic breaks and hallucinations from being yards away from his neighbourhood's huge cell tower. He moved away and was ok after that. Also, there is an article from a firefighter who said his station had many ills and strange episodes of emotion and instances of bi-polar displays cuz a tower was built right next door.

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 29 2024 0:22 utc | 82

"The authentically religious life for Kierkegaard was the life to be most admired and venerated, but understanding what constitutes such a life is so incredibly hard as to be impossible. And so he began with Fear and Trembling, which is an attunement to the story of the sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham. For Kierkegaard, a religious life of faith was something so impossibly difficult that one might have to kill his only son, the son that he loved. Kierkegaard thought:

this sacrificing of Issac by his father meant that the charge of murder would have been leveled at Abraham by his peers who would not understand what Abraham had been called to do. This means that a religious life separates you from the others by the wholly Other. Contrast this notion to the idea that a religious life in Copenhagen at the time meant a good job, a decent wife, and 5.5 children. Not far removed from a modernist understanding of religious life, indeed! Kierkegaard meant to challenge the individual and the same can be said for Nietzsche, but for Kierkegaard this meant a far deeper relationship with God than understood conventionally."

ted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 28 2024 23:54 utc | 77

Yeah you are bringing those 40 years old lessons back to me-I remember Gods test on Abraham's sacrifice of his only son was described by Kierkegaard, "the teleological suspension of the ethical"

The problem is that it essentially means, "the ends justifies the means" which can rationalize the Nazis not to mention Netanyahu.

Yes, Kierkegaard was profoundly religious.

I really felt sorry for the man who was so deeply in love with his fiancé yet he was so self absorbed and feeling not worthy of his future wife he broke it off the engagement.

Perhaps, if he had wed and become 'happy' we probably wouldn't still be studying him 150 years later as would he would have been content and not emotionally tortured which energized him to write his profound thoughts-the irony.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 29 2024 0:28 utc | 83

The Chinese are the great winners here as the US wastes so much time on the peripheral theatres of Ukraine (which it will eventually lose) and the Middle East (which is utterly destroying any soft power the West had left with the Other 7 Billion). The struggles of the US military to subdue the Houthis (whose actions can now be viewed as legal given the ICJ ruling) and the attacks on its bases spread throughout the region also underline the "paper tiger" image of the US. As unimperator @65 notes, the US has no real ability to attack the Iran in a way that will significantly damage Iran without triggering a much wider conflict that would be devastating to its interests. Better to quietly pull out and claim victory. In Africa, the West is rapidly losing ground. As too scents @9 covers with the start of the full collapse of the neo-colonial ECOWAS.

On the Eastern Front, the increasing pressure from the Russians seems to be causing the Ukrainian defences to buckle and give way - with significant breaches in southern Avdiivka and near the Oskol River. Biden seems to have thrown away any chance of an agreement on new funds for Ukraine with the border shenanigans, so Ukraine can only get weaker and weaker. Its not only arms, without the continuous flow of foreign money Ukraine will have to print huge amounts of money leading to domestic hyperinflation as another reason for Ukrainians to hate their government and favour a peace deal. Here is Military Summary on the breakthroughs.

With Trump now the presumptive nominee, and even the Financial Times starting to accept the probability of a Trump presidency (the Democrats have holed themselves below the water line with their own liberal base with respect to the Gazan genocide), the 2024 US shit-show is really starting to ramp up. Oh, and we can add the most recent Trump show trial and ridiculous award against him, together with the border control issue - or should that be "uncontrol"? I am still looking forward to the Democrat convention shenanigans which may throw out a "great liberal hope" candidate as Biden bows out - Michele perhaps, or the odious California Governor.

I wrote a piece recently about the Chinese viewpoint of biding their time while the West and especially the US thrash around injuring and undermining themselves. Given the 2024 craziness, and the probable craziness in 2025 no matter who wins, it may be not until 2026 until the US ship of state can right itself enough to carry out a meaningful set of foreign policy and economic initiatives. Another two full years for China to continue growing and gaining dominance in the leading technology fields. By then they will even have peaked greenhouse gas emissions and be able to sell themselves as a climate change action and clean technology global leader. In the post-WW2 period the world looked up to the incredibly advanced, powerful and untouched US homeland, who will the Other 7 Billion, and a chunk of the Golden Billion, be looking up to in 2026?

Posted by: Roger | Jan 29 2024 0:28 utc | 84

Did you know if you protest for ceasefire, you are Putin’s agent.
Nancy P. says so, and she will sick FBI on you. Beware, beware of this old rabid dog. I'm too polite to call her a bi***.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 29 2024 0:51 utc | 85

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 28 2024 23:58 utc | 79

Not sure what you mean, but if you read the first article he presents several of the scientific papers you are likely to be mentioning and is clearly on the 5G is the devil train.

I'd like to see the measurements and experimental conditions for the radiation exposure you cite for 5G, as well as the frequency(ies) they measured.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 0:52 utc | 86

"There is now all manner of protective sheet sets and pillow cases made to stymie EM frequencies"

Modern tin foil hat technology.... those death rays.... dangerous stuff.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 1:03 utc | 87

Posted by: bisfugged | Jan 29 2024 0:22 utc | 81

Scorpion @ 80

There is now all manner of protective sheet sets and pillow cases made to stymie EM frequencies although I wouldn't pay the expense to test them out.

Lots of scams out there of course but I did look into this a little and there are interior paints and curtain fabrics which block EMF well - these primarily for homes too close to cell towers. There are hand held meters which accurately measure such things but again many fakes there too, plus some which work well but don't catch the right types. (My good one was stolen in a robbery recently - costs $500.) Best (IMO) to move away; near ocean with fresh air and breezes, sunshine, invigorating sea water, sea food - no worries! I hate tourist towns so headed to higher ground coffee country, now often in low-lying clouds and mist surrounded by macadamia nut, lemon, orange and banana trees. Bright red ripening coffee berries the closest I get to Christmas or snow.

To each his own.

PS IMO Everyone everywhere always should turn router off at night especially if it is strong and you are close by. Also turn off cell phone. Sleep will be much better. Sleep is nature’s best medicine without which all sorts of terrible things develop.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 29 2024 1:37 utc | 88

Larry Johnson has a new podcast on the impending war with Iran. He also goes through some history of US unilateral domination and how the motivation and capability for it has ended. The US political elites live in a complete drugged up fantasy land.

Whether it was an intended trap or not, US will get wrecked. And no one knows how the Russia-Iran defensive pact will come into play.

https://sonar21.com/my-podcast-on-the-impending-war-with-iran/

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 29 2024 1:45 utc | 89

Only thing I can recommend for RF blocking is if you have a car with keyless push button start. There is a robbery scheme where they bring with them an RF amplifier that picks up the signal your key always emits and allows the thieves to open and start your car from a distance, like in your driveway if your key fob is in your kitchen.

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/just-pair-11-radio-gadgets-can-steal-car/

They sell little RF blocking bags for keys.

Also wallets and laptop bags. Many credit and debit cards have a little chip in them that also uses a form of RFID that can be intercepted in close proximity.

Sheets? I dunno, seems like a waste unless they actually even work or are washable.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 1:52 utc | 90

Larry Johnson says US military leadership is acting emotionally, with professionalism gone completely out of the window.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 29 2024 2:10 utc | 91

I took a look on Amazon for a Trifield Meter and the prices have gone down so I just got new one. One of the reviews mentioned something I'd forgotten: if you spend a long time on laptops AND they are plugged in, there are very high readings, much more so than normal computers for some reason - probably the power unit, I don't know. Anyway, I'll use the new meter to gauge the new house. Mexican wiring is not the best and some outlets push out a huge amount of EMF whereas others hardly any. No big deal, but nice to know, especially in bedroom and study areas where spend much time. (And it might inspire me to get a desktop!)

One can get overly fussy about such things, of course, but it can make a huge difference for some people and because of endemic corporate-political corruption in our societies these things are not well covered. 5G is going to be causing large numbers of people significant chronic inflammation/illness/autoimmune problems. Wuhan was one of the first big cities in the world with full coverage. Just sayin'....

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 29 2024 2:45 utc | 92

PS. For the record: I didn't choose our area or the house site based on this RF stuff, but it was in the back of my mind and so on a mental list of positivos when we stumbled on the property by accident. For this and aesthetic reasons I tend to always look for places that are slightly out of or on the edge of town with nearby fields and no too-close neighbours. This one is the outermost house in a tiny, old village 5 kms on rough roads to the nearest small town (where we are now renting) and 50 minutes away from the nearest city, which to me is an ideal sort of situation. Neither too close nor too far from civilization.

Also, it is probably the only private property in Mexico previously owned by Buddhist monks, who constructed a small, round meditation hut of stone and plaster. Not something was looking for or need, but intriguing - at least for this buyer.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 29 2024 3:07 utc | 93

You want drums of war?

ZH is beating those drums with the posting title below

US Officials Believe North Korea Will Soon Launch 'Limited' Attack On South

It builds on a NYT piece with the same MO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 29 2024 3:22 utc | 94

........ it may be not until 2026 until the US ship of state can right itself enough to carry out a meaningful set of foreign policy and economic initiatives.
Posted by: Roger | Jan 29 2024 0:28 utc | 83

My goodness that's extremely ambitious.

How about never?

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Jan 29 2024 3:40 utc | 95

this is interesting. Houthis change the thousands of years old paradigm of naval blockades. Mulitipolarity shifts from Unipolarity.

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Jan 28 2024 22:35 utc | 66

So far, there is no blockade, just an inconvenience of circumnavigating Africa. But if Israel enters Lebanon, as it plans, the blockade can be completed by Hezbollah in the Mediterranean.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 29 2024 4:02 utc | 96

Piotr Berman | Jan 29 2024 4:02 utc | 95

I read something some time ago about a militia group in the vicinity of Gibraltar. If correct, they are waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 4:19 utc | 97

@ persiflo | Jan 28 2024 20:48 utc | 49
thanks for your response - I have not heard of Sheldrake (or have I? - something tells me that we may have had this discussion long ago and I have forgotten about it?) Anyway, I will try to find more about him and maybe even get his book(s).

Posted by: fanto | Jan 29 2024 4:32 utc | 98

There was such a lively discussion about education over at the Palestine thread -- I came to it late, (crocuses!) Here's one bit in a nutshell:

"...sometimes 'flowery language' is the difference between gibberish and a well-made argument."

Sure, but most of the time "flowery language" is used to deceive and hide lies.

William Gruff was the second voice, Patroklos the first. I have to say, Mr.Gruff,you win the point -- but ironically also so does he! It has taken me years to realize the trap that 'a good education' can be -- and I had one. But Patroklos hasn't fallen into the trap -- he didn't just 'get a good education' -- he thinks or he wouldn't be here. Everyone here (except the very few who probably shouldn't be here) thinks.

The world is educating us right now. Very scary stuff. Very mindbending. We all get to help all of us think, just as Socrates was doing walking around barefoot on the streets, copying the sophistic arguments in the Politeia for the youth of Athens so they would learn to think. College degree or no college degree -- we are little educators here, all of us.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 29 2024 5:04 utc | 99

In Germany the government is asking the people to protest against the opposition?

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 29 2024 7:11 utc | 100