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January 3, 2024
Palestine SitRep – Hizbullah’s Response To Assassinations By Israel In Lebanon

The war on Gaza has not proceeded the way the Netanyahoo government had planned. Fierce resistance continues and Israeli Occupation Forces are taking relatively high losses.

Haaretz is reporting (archived) that the military leadership does not agree with the government plans:

A large, almost unbridgeable disparity exists between the understanding that the Israel Defense Forces are already in the midst of deployment for the third stage of the war in Gaza, and what the political decision makers are projecting outwardly.

Five brigades, mostly consisting of reservists, have been pulled from Gaza and will be demobilized. But the military expects the war to continue throughout the year if on a lower level.

The Israeli government plans to ethnically cleanse the Gaza strip. It has held talks with Congo and other African countries to take in the involuntary refugees. Bribes will flow and some governments will agree to take in whoever comes.

Pushing Palestinians out by making all living in Gaza unbearable is the underlying tactic to achieve that goal.

The U.S. government is publicly opposed to those plans but does nothing to prevent their realization.

Netanyahoo has recognized that a victory in Gaza, and the dismantling of all of Hamas, is not really possible. But he needs a victory to keep  a chance to survive in the government and to not go to jail for the various cases of taking bribes.

He attempts to achieve this by expanding the war into Lebanon. Several border provocations have so far not incited Hezbullah to respond with a larger war.

But yesterday an Israeli drone assassinated a leader of the Palestinian Hamas in Beirut:

The Deputy Chief of the Political Bureau of the Hamas movement, Saleh al-Arouri, was martyred on Tuesday evening, as a result of an attack that targeted the Southern Suburb of Beirut.

Lebanon's National News Agency reported that "an Israeli drone targeted an office of the Hamas movement in Msharafieh" while "ambulances reached the area to transport casualties."

Al Mayadeen's correspondent reported that an Israeli drone targeted the building with three missiles, resulting in the martyrdom of six individuals.

Saleh al-Arouri had been involved in hostage negotiations in Qatar with Israel.

In August last year Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah had publicly announced that any Israeli assassination in Lebanon, no matter of whom,  would be responded to in kind. He can not let yesterday's event pass without responding. Israel would otherwise feel free to assassinate more and more people in Lebanon.

Today, at 16:00 UTC, Nasrallah is expected to give a speech. This was originally planned as a commemoration of the assassination in 2020 of the Iranian General Qassam Soleimani and the Iraqi resistance leader Abu Mahdi al Muhandis by U.S. forces. PressTV will have live coverage of the speech. Nasrallah will surely include a response to yesterday's attack.

Hizbullah must respond carefully to not give Netanyahoo a reason for a wider attack on Lebanon. On the other side the response must be strong enough and soon enough to give Netanyahoo some trouble.

But what kind of operation he will chose to do is yet unknown. I for one expect an unexpected but serious surprise in a direction that Israel has not foreseen.

Comments

RE: “I agree but what will be the reaction if the resistance groups were to say that? “
Posted by: pq | Jan 3 2024 16:11 utc | 73
I’m not sure. The short human history we have had has shown that neither “legalism” nor “moralism” has stopped or prevented massacres, genocide or terrorism.
It’s true that some nations have simply gone bankrupt & thus certain tyranny ceased.
But overall, only force against force stopped warring campaigns.
If the “modern world” now thinks it’s found a better way via “ multipolar strategic patience “ till the “Empire” falls…
Well, I doubt I’ll be around to see the historical human change, as it is nowhere within any realistic range atm.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 3 2024 17:16 utc | 101

I urge you all to review BadEmpanada’s analysis of the “genocide” charge against the Zionist Jewish Occupation, in which he analyses The Actual Genocide Convention (AKA “The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide”) in depth and concludes that it clearly supports the classification of ‘Israel’s’ actions in Gaza as “A Genocide”.:
Israel is Guilty of Genocide in Gaza
Empanada’s analysis is lengthy, comprehensive, factual and heaviuly supported by rational analysis and references to historical fact.
His argument leaves no room, in my mind, that Izzrael is guilty of Genocide. No further analysis is needed. Case closed.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 17:17 utc | 102

whirlX@1708
“Have a tequila. Have a tequila. Drink one down. Two will do too. Two will do too. Drink one down”. Sung to the tune of that $abra favorite: Havana Gila.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 3 2024 17:17 utc | 103

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 3 2024 17:08 utc | 96
You forgot the nukes. Which are pointed at DC, London and Brussels. In fact Israel probably has the US nuclear codes And any other ICBMs serve a secondary purpose.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:18 utc | 104

The normalization of targeting civilians:
With Israel’s deliberate bombing and shooting of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank; the EU’s and US’s claims that Kiev has a “right to defend itself” and bomb civilians in Belgorad; and the West’s total acceptance of the terrorist act in Iran that killed 100 civilians, the US, EU and Israel are “normalizing” the targeting of civilians which, up to now, has always been considered a war crime. These rogue nations have thrown out all rules of war and have made the world a more dangerous place for all. This is what dying empires look like.

Posted by: Janet | Jan 3 2024 17:21 utc | 105

“Israel did it!”?
I assume either a blind antipathy,
(quite popular both before and after the latest horror show)
substitutes for logic.
OR
flat out catapulting a major chestnut that serves a classic purpose.
Im not sure what the difference is
but blaming Israel for inciting global conflict as if
there was no one else in the room,
perhaps only the trail of a wake
from a departing carrier.
I think some sick bastards like to celebrate violent anniversaries.
breathless attribution that reads the Big Lie loudly
floods us.
with no small assist from goobers.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 17:23 utc | 106

the ashkeNAZIS are obviously trying to instigate because that’s ALL THEY EVER DO.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/1/3/iran-blasts-live-deadly-explosions-target-soleimani-killing-anniversary
for example, not just killing a revered general but bombing civilians near his grave. it’s almost as if they’re spineless pussies who need their US sugar daddy to keep them from getting what they deserve.
and it might be their last chance; i’ve witnessed first hand quite a few otherwise nice people who had zero issues with jews suddenly releasing their inner himmler in conversation. even if it’s generational there’s going to be a “red line” with hoi polloi westerners where they stop allowing their tax dollars to fund child murder and leave these subhumans out to dry.

Posted by: so lame many | Jan 3 2024 17:25 utc | 107

for example, not just killing a revered general but bombing civilians near his grave. it’s almost as if they’re spineless pussies who need their US sugar daddy to keep them from getting what they deserve.”
Is there a parallel history in play here?

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 17:31 utc | 108

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 17:23 utc | 105
Huh? If you are talking about the bomb in Iran, yes Israel fucking did it. Maybe in conjunction with MEK but Israel fucking did it. Wake up.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:32 utc | 109

” As Bevin argues, this level of control by the fiew is not the result of a pre-planned conspiracy but the exploitation of a systemic weakness of the financial process made possible by the off-shore banking from the UK and through abuse of power by the US through the dollar monopoly. ”
Such control meets the definition of a conspiracy whatever it is the result of, in as much as it is a joint enterprise kept secret from someone else. It may be the result of the explotation of a systemic weakness of the finanacial process but that explotation must take the form of a conspiracy unless it can be done by one person acting alone or by more than one person acting without secrecy.
Why are ‘conspiracy’ and ‘the explotation of a systemic weakness of the finanacial process’ presented as mutually exclusive explanations? The presence of one does not demonstrate the absence of the other and we should expect to find them together because weaknesses of the finanacial process present means, motive and opportunity to engage in conspiracy. Without such weaknesses there would be little to conspire about. The weaknesses themselves might be the result of conspiracyby a few of the few.
Is ‘pre-planned conspiracy a tautology’?

Posted by: johnny Conspiranoid | Jan 3 2024 17:33 utc | 110

but blaming Israel for inciting global conflict as if
Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 17:23 utc | 105
HAHAHA. What a complete dingbat ewe are.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 17:34 utc | 111

RE: Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 3 2024 17:06 utc | 95
I don’t know, since Bush, through Obama, ect the strategy of tension and division has been greatly expanded and intensified. I’ve been hearing about our coming “civil” war for a decade at least.
Don’t kid yourself, political uprisings are exactly what’s desired, carefully crafted to incite the public, preferably as “red & blue” nation states (race or other issues are fibexas well) with the intent of Balkanization of the U.S., which would in turn create smaller more controllable statelets, and at the same time, get rid of that “Constitution” and pesky “Bill of Rights”.
They want the perception of a totally dysfunctional, too big and will fail, Central governance that needs to be broken up.
Of course the likes of Black Rock, Vanguard, Monsanto and others would get to “privatize” and control said Balkanized statelets by assisting in the creation of their new “constitutions”.
They strategy of tension, subversion, division are nothing new for State Dept & CIA as we’ve implemented them in foreign nation after foreign nation. Those citizens were too stupid to see it as it was being implemented and fell for the muck.
As such our own citizens are too stupid to see the design and plan.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 3 2024 17:34 utc | 112

the ashkeNAZIS are obviously trying to instigate because that’s ALL THEY EVER DO.
Posted by: so lame many | Jan 3 2024 17:25 utc | 106
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History is replete with examples of Ashkenazis stirring up conflict. It’s not Judaism the religion. It’s something cultural. Ethiopian Jews don’t behave like that. Most Orthodox Jews don’t behave like that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 17:36 utc | 113

Is there a parallel history in play here?
Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 17:31 utc | 107
Hmm…parallel history. Like what? I always know someone is disingenuous when they refuse to be direct. A “parallel history” like:
1. Assassinating Iranian scientists?
2. Attacking Iranian assets in Syria?
3. Constantly threatening to attack Iran and constantly egging the USA on to attack Iran?
4. Assassinating Iranian generals (Seyyed Razi Mousavi)?
5. Constantly using covert operations in the ME to promote instability where Iranian relations are concerned?
Oh, but I’m sure it was the CIA right? And that the CIA is completely un-infiltrated by Israeli interests. Acting completely independently. On only Gentile concerns. LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:38 utc | 114

With Israel at war, Netanyahu’s judicial coup is back with a vengeance
The original judicial overhaul plans may be on hold, but the government has even more dangerous room to extend its powers unchecked and unnoticed. The public is distracted, busy panicking or rallying round the flag. (Haaretz)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 3 2024 17:39 utc | 115

It’s not Judaism the religion. It’s something cultural. Ethiopian Jews don’t behave like that. Most Orthodox Jews don’t behave like that.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 17:36 utc | 111
White people, man. White people.
Just sayin’ …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 17:41 utc | 116

by Israel Wins Again! | Jan 3 2024 16:16 utc | 75
When you demonstrate such evil actions that the entire world comes to hate you, this cannot be called winning.
I pity Israelis for the seeds they are sowing, first and foremost in their own selves, because when they reap them, they’ll be bitter, and in their ignorance and immaturity don’t see that.
Look at the USA. It has become as broken, violent and poor in infrastructure as all those countries it’s bombed throughout the years. It’s Israel’s turn now.
Israel is doing the same mistake.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 3 2024 17:44 utc | 117

His argument leaves no room, in my mind, that Izzrael is guilty of Genocide. No further analysis is needed. Case closed.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 17:17 utc | 101

BadEmpanada highlights and debunks the common hasbara claim that the Gaza death count can’t be trusted because they are “Hamas figures”:

– The IDs of all (I assume “most”) of the dead included in the count were provided by medical professionals.
– The statistics were provided by medical professionals operating in Gaza’s hospitals [often from multiple nationalities, e.g Norway].
– The statistics and data were analysed in The Lancet a reputable (read, “as reputable as anything the West has to offer and more reputable than anything the hasbaranim have to offer”) and found to accurate within reason.

Basically, his argument and referenced facts leave me with no reason to question the account and statistics provided by the Gaza Ministry of Health.

The IDF spokesorganisms on the other hand …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 17:48 utc | 118

Another blast in Iran just now. That is what both Ukraine and Israel are resorting to: something to grab the headlines while the tide is turning against them.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 3 2024 13:26 utc | 14
The objective of both Ukraine’s attacks and Israel’s is to provoke a retaliatory response from both Russia and Iran, respectively, and to literally kill the negotiator for releasing the hostages.
Netanyahu is hoping the response is big enough to force Biden to increase American involvement and possibly troops, and Zelenski more aid.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 3 2024 17:52 utc | 119

laguerrre @ Jan 3 2024 15:16 utc | 48
I am not sure a rational resource calculation will have much impact. Netanyahu is committed to providing security and tied his own survival to that.
The “overton window” both in Israel and for the resistance does not allow for peace, however rational.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.(Upton Sinclair)

Posted by: SOS | Jan 3 2024 17:54 utc | 120

Three months on (almost).
Israel keeps winning, and the number of senior Hamas pigs now transformed into halal sausages is increasing daily. No sign of abating in the operation. In fact, they might bitch slap Hizbollah too, just for good measure.
But no, the deluded bar flies here play the Ukrainian redditor and join every day in a huge circle jerk, inventing imaginary Israeli losses and trying to persuade themselves that things are going just fine.
It’s just as deluded as reading r/Ukraine and, frankly, just as fun.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 3 2024 17:56 utc | 121

Israel keeps winning, and the number of senior Hamas pigs now transformed into halal sausages is increasing daily.
Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 3 2024 17:56 utc | 120
I just see many kosher sausages getting shipped out of Gaza.
IDF has yet to produce one picture of a dead Hamas fighter.
What are we to conclude?
The IDF ground troops can’t handle HAMAS in direct attacks.
They can only rely on the IAF to bomb and guess that some HAMAS fighters were killed.
All their HAMAS casualty numbers are dice rolls …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 18:00 utc | 122

The one thing that Donald Trump said or did that was not disputed was taking credit for the abominable murder that occurred three years ago.
Some serious revisionism in play and it appears one country in particular is being held harmless at the moment, despite sending money in a big rush.
Its not Israel, Sherlocks.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 3 2024 18:02 utc | 123

I am not sure a rational resource calculation will have much impact. Netanyahu is committed to providing security and tied his own survival to that.
Posted by: SOS | Jan 3 2024 17:54 utc | 119
The question I was addressing is whether Netanyahu’s aims can be achieved. I’m sure Netanyahu aims to create a secure Greater Israel, in a final outright push, under pressure from the extremists in his government. The issue obviously is whether it can be achieved, or whether Israel will fail, and thus downturn into a decline.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 3 2024 18:06 utc | 124

Hilarious analysis of IDF combat footage by US special forces soldier
https://twitter.com/gregjstoker/status/1741659645201047708

Posted by: Exile | Jan 3 2024 18:06 utc | 125

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 3 2024 18:06 utc | 123
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Netanyahu’s goals are as achievable as Hitler’s 1,000-year Reich.
That’s not a Nazi reference.
It’s about the scope and scale of psychopathic megalomania.
Crazy people say crazy things, and over time, believe them.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 18:10 utc | 126

An even worse state sponsored terrorist action occurred today in Iran, where bombs were detonated to kill mourners at Qassem Soleimani’s gravesite observing the fourth anniversary of his assassination ordered by President Trump. Clearly the US and Israel want Hezbollah and Iran to retaliate so war can be escalated on these two targets of Western imperialism. Western war planners must be astonished at the restraint of these two objects coveted for destruction. Nasrallah and Iran know they cannot win outright wars at this time and must withstand the incredible terrorist provocations used to intimidate them and their people. Shiites continue to demonstrate a profound reluctance to engage in war, which shames Christians and Zionists, infuriating them to betray the teachings of their prophets and deities.

Posted by: Wilikins | Jan 3 2024 18:11 utc | 127

Nasrallah gave an important speech. It was difficult to follow live on Press TV, Odysee and Rumble because of constant interference. I listened to the last part on Sky News without interference but the translation wasn’t that great.
Nasrallah ended with the assassination last night in Beirut by saying something to the effect that it was grave and that Hesbollah will not stay quiet, which will be seen in the next nights and days.
To get a rough idea of what Nasrallah said see:
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/war-on-lebanon-to-be-without-limits–extremly-costly–sayyed
I hope there will be a full transcript soon.

Posted by: JB | Jan 3 2024 18:12 utc | 128

– Here is a suggestion for Nasrallah: Send some suicide bombers to Europe to attack over there an israeli / US embassy or any other israeli or US target.

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 18:16 utc | 129

Just reading through AL Manar reported speech.
Obviously would appreciate any English link when available of speech if anyone sees anything.
First 40 minutes or so is focused on Martyrs & accomplishments.
Then timeline like this: (Bottom to Top for Order)
19:07 Sayyed Nasrallah: When we observe the grandiosity of the outcomes of the ongoing confrontation with the Israeli enemy, we will become satisfied and more determined to continue
19:03 Sayyed Nasrallah: Axis of resistance has been facing the most serious challenge since the start of the Zionist war on Gaza on October 8
19:00 Sayyed Nasrallah: Axis of resistance is joined by masters who take their decisions independently, not servants who obey regulations blindly
18:58 Sayyed Nasrallah: Some political writers and analysts think that Iran orders all the axis of resistance, as some regimes do with the groups they control
18:55 Sayyed Nasrallah: Resistance groups in the region act according to the conditions of the country they exist in despite the strategic agreement on identifying the enemies, friends and targets
This part seems to, IMO, at first glance, conveys how resistance groups are “working their own turfs, loosely aligned, and all are facing “a serious challenge”. As victories mount, more confidence is growing.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 3 2024 18:21 utc | 130

Here is a suggestion for Nasrallah: Send some suicide bombers to Europe
Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 18:16 utc | 128
Who do you think hizbullah are? Terrorists?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 18:24 utc | 131

You forgot the nukes. Which are pointed at DC, London and Brussels. In fact Israel probably has the US nuclear codes And any other ICBMs serve a secondary purpose.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:18 utc | 103
Pollard probably gave them those, as well as eavesdropping capability for encrypted traffic.

Posted by: defanger | Jan 3 2024 18:25 utc | 132

Roughly the IDF sent in 20 brigades to Gaza and are withdrawing 5 brigades of weekend warriors.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 3 2024 18:25 utc | 133

malenkov | Jan 3 2024 15:31 utc | 54
*** I dunno, Arch. Seems increasingly as if “Israel” wants to exterminate the rightful population, or at least drive it out. That would explain the increasing fondness for importing people from developing countries such as Thailand to do the shit jobs.***
That way the workers being exploited in future, being foreigners, could have no claim on the oil and gas that’s presently owned by the Palestinians the Zionists are presently trying to eradicate.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 3 2024 18:28 utc | 134

Posted by: Exile | Jan 3 2024 18:06 utc | 124
LoL, thanks, that was entertaining, under the circumstances.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 18:28 utc | 135

Pollard probably gave them those, as well as eavesdropping capability for encrypted traffic.
Posted by: defanger | Jan 3 2024 18:25 utc | 131
I think encrypted has moved on quite some way since Pollard’s time …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 3 2024 18:30 utc | 136

CLEARLY, neither Hezbollah nor Hamas want to really hurt Israel…!
IF they wanted to hurt Israel, they would ALREADY have blown one of Israel’s 5 desalination plants.

Posted by: Joseph B | Jan 3 2024 18:33 utc | 137

@ by: psychohistorian | Jan 3 2024 16:06 utc | 70
I listened to the speech.
There were perhaps eleven “titles” — here are a few takeaways i heard.
He described the method and philosophy of the Axis of Resistance as sown by General Solemani — decentralized, autonomous, self reliant, decision-making based on the peoples’ interest in each of the Resistance’s countries, and cooperation across the Axis in sharing knowledge, etc; aka nobody a slave, no top-down hierarchy.
He also said what Alastair Crook has been saying for weeks w.r.t “the Zionist entity.” Namely that the promise of security for its people has been demolished due to its egregious behaviour, waging genocide; and that its land is poor land, not good for much. The izzies with means will flee if they haven’t already. If “the prophet killers” continue with their crazed madness and cross a res line in Lebanon, then the response will have no rules, no limits, as it is now apparent to all that the world’s international mechanisms are useless in protecting human rights and national sovereignty.
When the zionist entity attacked Lebanon in 2006 they had “blinded sight.”
Today they have “blind hearts.” [Prolly includes the enabler US. As Whitney Webb said last month, the NSS of the two countries are not separate.]
Much more than this.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 3 2024 18:33 utc | 138

Someone really wants Iran to enter the fray. Lots are pointing out at Israel or US for the recent bombing, but despite that, I’m not sure the usual suspects have something to gain from it. (It never stopped them to do dumb thing before but ..)
Anyway, Iran might took it’s time to get all the bits and might only retaliate wisely via one of its numerous proxies.. and why not in a non-kinetic way ?
An hacked AI Israel will be fun to watch 🙂

Posted by: Savonarole | Jan 3 2024 18:34 utc | 139

Here is a suggestion for Nasrallah: Send some suicide bombers to Europe
Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 18:16 utc | 128
That is the job of Mossad, CIA and MI6. Why would Hezbollah muscle in on their turf.

Posted by: pq | Jan 3 2024 18:35 utc | 140

Forgot this last time:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/
List “17 Outcomes” from Oct. 8 resistance through timeline speech. Very good reminders.
States unequivocally Israel had every intention of going to war with Lebanon (was planned) and not “defending” Gaza and Lebanon would have insured a “surprise” Lebanon attack.
States yes, they are keeping things “limited” but “limits” will disappear if they are attacked.
As usual with Hasan. A very well detailed account and informative as well as inspiring thoughtful address.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 3 2024 18:38 utc | 141

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 18:16 utc | 129
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Tell me you’re a child without telling me that you’re a child.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 18:40 utc | 142

“More than 100 killed in ‘terrorist attacks’ near tomb of Iranian Guards’ Soleimani” ~from the web.
There is tactic, and then there is strategy. Terrorism is a tactic, it does not alter strategy. The strategy remains, exodus of the empire from the region.
The empire is impotent in the Red Sea. The empire is a sitting duck in Iraq and Syria. The empire is a sitting duck in Persian Gulf.
As Madeline Albright said, and I’m paraphrasing, what good is the best armed forces, if you can’t use them. Well, you can’t use them, because, see above. Or, some perhaps forget all the ‘head traumas,’ at Ein-al-Asad and say screw it, we’re going all in. Well then, as W43 said: bring it on.
I was going to write something in remembrance of the good general — Soleimani that is — but now will have to remember the new martyrs as well. May they RIP, as the world in 2024 may not be that peaceful.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 3 2024 18:42 utc | 143

I’m not going to try to anticipate the reaction militarily, just give my own reaction to the assasinations in Lebanon and the memorial gathering in Iran. I think these will resonate far more than so far we seem to have comments about. And Iran doesn’t need nukes. They are really obsolete at present, so anyone advising such is way behind, and thank God for that.
My deepest sympathy goes to both Lebanon and Iran for these additionally atrocious murders most foul. There is insanity in this, because it will only make things worse for those who are the perpetrators. In an all-seeing world we will find that out soon enough.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 3 2024 18:43 utc | 144

Netanyahu is hoping the response is big enough to force Biden to increase American involvement and possibly troops, and Zelenski more aid.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 3 2024 17:52 utc | 119
I doubt Netanyahu would do that because that would be crazy.
Sarcasm.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 3 2024 18:43 utc | 145

aristodemos | Jan 3 2024 16:28 utc | 79
*** Do please bear in mind that just the other day, the U$$A pulled the USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier, and presumably its escorts and supply elements out of the eastern Med. That was a signal to Israel that any false-flag created by the Zionist Entity will not be countenanced…***
Not necessarily — Israel has its own airforce … some comments point out that the Ford’s crew had completed an extended tour … and it was replaced with a troop-carrier of 2000 marines.
Which could indicate a possible US land attack on Lebanon.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 3 2024 18:45 utc | 146

RE: Posted by: Exile | Jan 3 2024 18:06 utc | 125
Was really good vid & post. Thx.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 3 2024 18:46 utc | 147

So I gather MEK will get the blame in proxy wars on this one . Vice president of NATO tweets support for the Beirut assassination. How becoming of the higher civilisation
https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1742557174088241258?s=20

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 3 2024 18:52 utc | 148

The reactions to the assassinations in Lebanon and the state sponsored terrorist bombing at the memorial gathering in Iran must come from the respective citizens of Israel and the US, who must try and imprison their leaders and war lords if they are to break the subjection that controls their lives. Retaliation from America’s and Israel’s victims in Iran and Lebanon will be used to further subjectivize Americans and Israelis for total war, and these peoples are too obedient and enraged to respond in any other way at this time. Organizers must educate these peoples to recognize their leadership jeopardizes their well being and the world’s ability to sustain them if peace is to be achieved.

Posted by: Wilikins | Jan 3 2024 18:59 utc | 149

by Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:18 utc | 103
Nukes, yes. I doubt that Israel is in possession of any keys of the US ICBM.
I would say it is the other way around.
Yitzak Rabin, killed by the elements of a current government, spoke about that,
as Arafat pressed him hard on that during peace talks.
Funny, as Arafat owned 3 very big building companies in Oman before he became a Palestinian leader, he could have benefited in rebuilding destroyed areas throughout Middle East. Not that he did. Bad joke, anyway.
The general understanding is that all the nukes belong to the USA, since mid 90s.
But those guys are never to be trusted, anyway.
For Israel is not practical to nuke Gaza, if that is what people imply, as it is so small area that a fallout would make the whole southern Palestine unlivable including West Bank occupied areas and a Negev.
Also, if Israel has a few hidden free fall nukes, that is possible and probable, but very capable Armageddon style ICBMs – it does not really have anything of that sort.
If they go for a David option, they will be annihilated in no time. On a very small piece of land, it is not an effort, at all, and one doesn’t need much tactical effort to pancake it.
by aristodemos | Jan 3 2024 17:17 utc | 102
Hava nagila, yes. I do not get the tequila part, but that song has an amazing empty soul poetry.
Let us rejoice, let us sing and let us be awake (alert). More Nazi Nigun Haiku than that, is really hard to find.
Usually sung during the encouragement ritual before going to kill civilians and destruct something.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 3 2024 19:02 utc | 150

– Here is a suggestion for Nasrallah: Send some suicide bombers to Europe to attack over there an israeli / US embassy or any other israeli or US target.
Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 18:16 utc | 129
Europe had LOTS of bombings between say 1960 and 1990. So, why not do it one or more times more right now.

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 3 2024 19:07 utc | 151

suzan | Jan 3 2024 18:33 utc | 138
(quoting Nasrallah) *** If “the prophet killers” continue with their crazed madness and cross a red line in Lebanon, then the response will have no rules, no limits, as it is now apparent to all that the world’s international mechanisms are useless in protecting human rights and national sovereignty.***
Could be a reference to the Dimona nuclear setup.
Israel has been warned before now that if they go too far, it would be a target.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 3 2024 19:13 utc | 152

robinthehood re: the domain URL presstv.com:

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Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:16 utc | 153

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 3 2024 19:02 utc | 150
To be honest, I’m pretty sure Israel is in control of her own nukes and that the primary ICBMs are aimed at Moscow, Beijing, DC, and London. The idea would be to trigger the greater launch and Armageddon that the Zionist and Christian Zionist end-timers seem to desire so much. Again, we’re not talking about rational people here. These are psychopaths.
As far as US nuke codes, do you really dismiss Mossad’s ability to get ahold of them? That said, I’m sure certain firewalls and even air gapped systems exist, but I don’t know enough about it to do much more than speculate (and frankly, I don’t care). 🙂

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:19 utc | 154

@ suzan | Jan 3 2024 18:33 utc | 138 with the response and speech summary…thanks for that
I am going to wait for the actions now. We have been watching genocide for two months now in Gaza and I am not seeing the response from the Arab community I expected. I knew going in that most Arab states have neutered leadership but I thought their religious connection would unite them…..guess not
I believe there is still enough resistance force in the region to stop Occupied Palestine and its back stoppers but China/Russia need to be included in the fray if it escalates beyond the region.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 3 2024 19:20 utc | 155

Israel has no need nor do they have anything strategic to gain from nuking any part of Palestine. They can (and are) level(ing) Gaza with conventional munitions, assuming they don’t run out first. You noted the tactical reason – namely massive nuclear fallout right in their tiny backyard.
When thinking about Israel’s greater hardline MO, you have to keep in mind that blackmail and subterfuge are their primary operational methodologies for global level considerations.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:22 utc | 156

Jeffrey Epstein was both the perfect personification and asset of Israel. A massive blackmail scheme, aimed at western military and financial power centers and politicians.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:23 utc | 157

The death of Empire by a thousand cuts will not be diverted into provoked retaliation battlefield , as has been inflicted on Gaza.
We are dealing with ancient civilised Peoples here not cowboy NuttyYahoos.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 3 2024 19:27 utc | 158

Posted by: OldFart@12
As I often remind my colleagues, “I won’t eat paper (currency), and I can’t eat gold.” There is however, an ample supply of catfish, squirrel and acorns (if I run out of venison) just outside my front door…
The problem with that logic, my brother, is that someone with a bigger gun than you may come along someday and decide to take that self sufficient paradise of yours, don’t you think? If society devolves into anarchy and starvation then jungle rules are in play no matter how remote the abode. Let’s pray it never comes to that.

Posted by: UBAH | Jan 3 2024 19:29 utc | 159

Most Orthodox Jews don’t behave like that.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 17:36 utc | 111
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I wish people would stop saying that; it’s simply untrue. some — SOME — ultra-orthodox Jews (or Haredim, if you prefer) are non- or even anti-Zionist. But most orthodox Jews, especially those in Israel, are fiercely Zionist: the Hasidim and Datiim, for starters.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 3 2024 19:29 utc | 160

IF they wanted to hurt Israel, they would ALREADY have blown one of Israel’s 5 desalination plants.
Posted by: Joseph B | Jan 3 2024 18:33 utc | 137
And IMO the reason they haven’t is NOT that they don’t want to hurt Israel, necessarily, but that Uncle Scam sent his navy incl. aircraft carriers to the area with the not-so-implied threat that he’ll step in, in the event of any serious attack (especially pre-emptive) launched against Israel.
Also notable, Israel is likely running very low on military supplies (i.e., weapons) as a result of their ongoing genocide bombing of Gaza. Interestingly, Uncle Scam may also be running low as a result of his proxy war in Ukraine.
The Iranians and Hezbollah are far more patient than their western foes, as is Russia and China. They don’t think in terms of fiscal quarters, but rather 10-30 year periods.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:29 utc | 161

Posted by: Jane | Jan 3 2024 16:26 utc |

I hope the tables are turned and Israelis find themselves in danger of being arrested if they travel abroad, indicted for crimes against humanity, and brought to justice publicly.

I remember that Tzipi Livni cancelled multiple visits to foreign countries.
British court issued Gaza arrest warrant for former Israeli minister Tzipi Livni
Guardian; Mon 14 Dec 2009
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/14/tzipi-livni-israel-gaza-arrest

A British court issued an arrest warrant for Israel’s former foreign minister over war crimes allegedly committed in Gaza this year – only to withdraw it when it was discovered that she was not in the UK, it emerged today.
Tzipi Livni, a member of the war cabinet during Operation Cast Lead, had been due to address a meeting in London on Sunday but cancelled her attendance in advance. The Guardian has established that Westminster magistrates’ court issued the warrant at the request of lawyers acting for some of the Palestinian victims of the fighting but it was later dropped.

Did war crimes summons force Tzipi Livni to cancel Brussels trip?
The Electronic Intifada; 19 January 2017
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/did-war-crimes-summons-force-tzipi-livni-cancel-brussels-trip

Israel’s former foreign minister Tzipi Livni has canceled a visit to Brussels scheduled for next week.
The news comes as Belgian prosecutors confirm that Livni was due to be questioned in an ongoing investigation for war crimes.
Livni was expected in Brussels on 23 January for a conference at the European Parliament, but she has pulled out citing illness, according to the Belgian newspaper Le Soir.
Livni was apparently not too ill to speak to the New York branch of the Israel lobby group the Anti-Defamation League on Wednesday.
Israeli officials, including Livni, have a history* of cancelling** foreign visits if they fear arrest.
* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/05/israeli-minister-moshe-yaalon-visit
** http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/fear-of-arrest-still-prevents-israeli-officials-from-visiting-britain.premium-1.433452
Thierry Wertz, a Belgian prosecutor, told Le Soir that federal judicial authorities “planned to take advantage of Tzipi Livni’s visit to try to move the investigation forward.”
According to Le Soir, Wertz’s comments indicate that prosecutors planned to formally summon Livni for questioning.

SA Jewry Furious Livni Visit Could Be Canceled
Haaretz; Jan 19, 2011 — paywalled!

A cancellation of the trip would deal a ‘devastating blow’ to the local Jewish community, says chairman of South African Jewish Board of Deputies.
The leading body representing South African Jewry slammed the striking members of Israel’s foreign services this week for obstructing opposition leader Tzipi Livni’s planned visit to the country.

War crimes suit filed in Switzerland against former Israeli minister
swissinfo.ch; May 31, 2017
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/swiss-visit_war-crimes-suit-filed-in-switzerland-against-former-israeli-minister/43224320

According to the Le Temps newspaper, Livni has been named in a legal suit filed on Monday by the Geneva-based Urgence Palestine activist group in relation to her role in the Israeli military’s “Operation Cast Lead” in the Gaza Strip between December 2008 – January 2009. She was foreign minister and acting prime minister at the time.
The Attorney General’s Office confirmed to swissinfo.ch that this ‘[legal] request is presently being studied’.

Posted by: scanalyse | Jan 3 2024 19:30 utc | 162

especially those in Israel, are fiercely Zionist: the Hasidim and Datiim, for starters.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 3 2024 19:29 utc | 160
And if I’m not mistaken, neither the Hasidim or Datiim are required to serve in the IDF, seek a technical education, or basically participate in any “modern” functions of society. Correct me if I’m wrong on any of that.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:31 utc | 163

Jeffrey Epstein was both the perfect personification and asset of Israel. A massive blackmail scheme, aimed at western military and financial power centers and politicians.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:23 utc | 157
The coverup is extraordinary. As is the motivations. Probably with involvement of Black Cube, last I heard of them was in Rowan Farrow’s expose in the New Yorker.

Posted by: defanger | Jan 3 2024 19:33 utc | 164

Tom_Q writes: “Israel has no need nor do they have anything strategic to gain from nuking any part of Palestine.”
Indeed. As Martin van Creveld pointed out, the nukes are pointed at European capitals: “Assist our genocide, or Rome becomes radioactive glass.” To say nothing of Tehran, of course.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 3 2024 19:33 utc | 165

The quote to which malenkov refers re: “the Samson Option”:
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force.”
― Martin Van Creveld

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:39 utc | 166

Madeline Albright made a noise ..
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 3 2024 18:42 utc | 143
There is an alternative analysis.
As you may know, Biden stated in one of his typical unguarded remarks, to an Iranian-American activist, during the Mahsa social unrest period, quote:
“But they will have a nuclear weapon. And they will represent that”.
USA can not nuke Iran per script with that pretext. They’ve been waiting for ages for this bomb — “she’s pregnant, baby due in 6 months!!!!” — but alas IR is sitting on that egg. Warming it, sure, but alas nothing has hatched.
When the decisive moment has arrived (elsewhere ..) a signal will be given and baby will be born. Now when someone is “representing” a “rogue nuclear capability”, all “Permanent Members” get righteous and place the offending nation in a LEGAL BOX. Laws vary. Some laws demand execution for the offending party.
“The E3/EU+3 and Iran reaffirm their commitment … “[JCPOA]
In case the bar has forgotten, the nation of Iran (not “IRI” btw) has been subjected to an oversight (that basically shits on sovereignty of the Iranian people) unlike any other nation on earth. Based entirely on the pretexts provided by IRI.
The final curtain call act of IRI is to provide pretext for nuclear attack on Iran.
Will the end of IR “of” Iran — “of” like in disease “of” some vital organ — spell the end of BOXES for Iranians (who it turns out were SEMITES “5000 years” ago)?
> “The E3/EU+3 and Iran reaffirm their commitment …” [in JCPOA]
IANAL thanks be to God but I noticed this strange reluctant to refer to “IRI” instead of “Iran”. For example, it says E3 (so it can name them but it won’t) and EU is 27 nations, but when it comes to “Iran”, the BOX requires the name “Iran” and not “IRI”.
> “The E3/EU+3 and IRI reaffirm their commitment …” [not in JCPOA]
IR occupying Iran has a role to play. There is a script, as you may have heard: ‘Epic rumble in “the neighborhood”‘. It is not a good look and definitely not a “global cathartic moment” if the lone superpower drops nukes on a people who do not “represent” such “rogue and dangerous actors”.
Lies have consequences. There was once a man named Saul, he got tired of killing Christians so he went for a trip. On the way Saul saw a vision, but alas there was no one else to given account. This same Saul then became Paul, and went on to “like a father” deliver Goyim to the Cabal. Now he is know to all as (((Grand Ayatollah Saint Paul the Pharisee)))
This Jewish psyop, to control the minds of pepple of Provinces of Rome, did not sit well in ROME. But the Romans admired the Hebrew approach and decided to run a fake op themselves.
So, then one day a Roman Emperor, tired of fornicating and orgies, sets out on a trip East. On the way, alas again no one there to give witness, a Shining Cross and a “Mission” from “God”. Constantine then became ‘holy’, and we might as well call him too (((Ayatollah Grand Emperor Constantine the Debauch))).
Now then Rome took over from Ayatollah Paul, just like Ayatollah Paul had pushed aside our brother Peter-Simon (RA), who was foretold by the Messiah of Israel (which _remains a holy name_ given by none other than ALLAH to JACOB …) that he would “deny me” 3 times “before the Dawn”.
Now the Pharisees didn’t take this lying down. They penetrated “Rome” via court and market and taxes. And a few centuries later — all good things come to those who are patient — a useful friar named Luther opened the doors for Pharisees Takeover Part Two.
Btw, as an Iranian, I must say I was impressed by the tolerance of Rome to religious practice. They had all sorts of cults in Rome. This and the fact of their coming hard on Pauline Christians in Rome is what stood out. The ‘cracks and telltale signs’ are always there but one needs to be “God Fearing” to have “Wisdom” as Solomon (AS) said.
In this we see that USA, the n-th attempt at rebooting ROME, had far less thoughtful elite than Rome. In Rome, the Emperor took over the church and they had a nice purge of inconvenient people and books and rewrote the doctrine. In USA, they didn’t and now 1/2 of the population is under the grip of MIND CONTROL.
Tell me:
What will become of those who corrupt the message of God and use mind control to “Lord it” over the people?
They will come to no good end. Count on this. And it matters not what “flag” they velcro on their Turbans …

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 3 2024 19:41 utc | 167

#128
thanks # 140
That is the job of Mossad, CIA and MI6. Why would Hezbollah muscle in on their turf.
Hezbollah is two things, a political party – but also a philosophy. Hamas is in my estimation more of a national liberation philosophy than a military government movement.
The farm kids who are losing the farm in the EU, the plumbers kids in college watching the dismal future in the EU and even more so the minorities including Muslims in the EU who get 3/4 of a slice of pie are all ripe for grafting on whatever portions of relevant national liberation philosophy of Hamas that they choose.
IIRC for France and Germany both to threaten jail for saying the word Zionist is going to be “hoist with ones own petard.” People who climb or burrow under the fence and protest on top of the nuclear bunkers in Germany and Belgium rarely go to jail for it and when jailed it is for a relatively short time (and get furloughs on weekends). Threatening 2 years in jail for the wrong word is going to boomerang big time.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Jan 3 2024 19:43 utc | 168

Israel fucking did it. Wake up.
@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 17:32 utc | 109

TQC nails it again! You and (apparently) most barflies correctly cut to the nib of it with Occam’s razor. 48 absolutely depends of finishing the job, finalizing the Palestinian problem. Since this involves such an incredibly non-photogenic genocide, now is the perfect time for a huge distraction such as WWIII, via Iran.
Though USA publicly denounces plans for “voluntary migration” of Palestinians into the Sinai desert, or even Congo, USA’s national viability hinges on that of 48. We are no-daylight joined at the hip; 48’s essentials are also USA’s. We’re clearly (insanely) committed to unbounded escalation, all over the world.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 3 2024 19:46 utc | 169

“An even worse state sponsored terrorist action occurred today in Iran, where bombs were detonated to kill mourners at Qassem Soleimani’s gravesite observing the fourth anniversary of his assassination ordered by President Trump. ”
++++++++++++++++
This is like spitting on people.
Or necrophilia of some kind.
Maybe just blasphemy.
In fact, “blasphemy” seems to cover pretty all that Zionistan has done in Palestine in the name of its god.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 3 2024 19:47 utc | 170

Also, since Van Creveld is under discussion now, here’s an article from 2010 that touches on some very relevant and contemporaneous (to the present) subjects.
https://forward.com/opinion/133961/israel-doesn-t-need-the-west-bank-to-be-secure/
Of note:

Furthermore, in recent years Israel has shown it can deal with that kind of threat if it really wants to. Since 2006, when the Second Lebanon War killed perhaps 2,000 Lebanese, many of them civilians, and led to the destruction of an entire section of Beirut, the northern border has been absolutely quiet. Since Operation Cast Lead, which killed perhaps 1,200 Gazans, many of them civilians, and led to the destruction of much of the city of Gaza, not one Israeli has been killed by a mortar round or rocket coming from the Gaza Strip. Since mortar rounds and rockets continue to be fired from time to time, that is hardly accidental. Obviously Hamas, while reluctant to give up what it calls “resistance,” is taking care not to provoke Israel too much.

Emphasis mine, and emphasized because I don’t think Hamas’ aims really changed all that much between then and October 7, 2023. Again, that was primarily intended to be a hostage taking mission with a secondary goal of perhaps killing as many IDF as possible and reminding the world that Gaza still exists as a massive open air concentration camp. Which is important because 1) Elements of the IDF and Shin Bet were warned in great detail and likely had intimate knowledge of Hamas’s plans and 2) Utilized the timeworn Israeli “template for terror” as is evidenced by the partial prison guard stand-down and typically outrageous claims made in the media immediately thereafter. It all follows a well known script, if one can admit to oneself that conspiracies do, in fact, take place.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:47 utc | 171

“…Jeffrey Epstein was both the perfect personification and asset of Israel. A massive blackmail scheme, aimed at western military and financial power centers and politicians…” Tom_Q_Collins@157
I’m agnostic on this matter but does it seem likely that the head of ‘a massive blackmail scheme” of the sort described would die in a New York prison cell, allegedly at the hands of another inmate? Don’t sophisticated blackmailers always have a ‘dead man’s switch’?
I’ve always thought that he was probably just another highly placed pimp who was threatening to tell the truth in court.
If Israel has a blackmail scheme why would it be aimed at the captive American political caste? At Arabs perhaps, Russians or Turks, very likely.
‘ Anyway truth will out and the fabled little black book, when opened, will keep a lot of fabulists busy for a long time.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2024 19:50 utc | 172

And if I’m not mistaken, neither the Hasidim or Datiim are required to serve in the IDF, seek a technical education, or basically participate in any “modern” functions of society. Correct me if I’m wrong on any of that.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:31 utc | 163
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Not sure about the Hasidim but this is certainly the case with the Haridim. This is quite controversial in IS since the rest of the pop. have to support them and they are actually quite a PITA. But htey have a central role in the Israeli political balancing act.
There were a couple of links a few MoA threads ago to stories about this in I think Haaretz that stated that the Haridim were a bigger threat to IS than than the Palestinians.
Interesting pointlet is that 15% of the settlers are Haridim from Brooklyn. It seems like there are a lot of freeloaders in IS society.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 3 2024 19:52 utc | 173

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 3 2024 19:46 utc | 169
Indeed, and thank you. You mention Occam’s Razor and I previously listed just a few recent Israeli provocations of Iran. I should have noted the assassination of Gen. Soleimani, carried out under the Trump administration which was (and will be again) perhaps the most hardline Israeli Zionist-friendly cabinet in a long time. While we got years of Russiagate bullshit, we were distracted from the real “election interferers” – aka Israel, the Zionist lobby and hardline Zionist elites like Sheldon Adelson (who has since passed away, but I believe his offspring continue his mission).
That was an attempt not only to scuttle a peace process that fell outside the purview of Trump and Kushner’s Fake News peace process PR campaign known as the Abraham Accords, but also to – wait for it – provoke an Iranian response sufficient to “justify” a larger war. It was done in cahoots with Israel, in other words, no matter whether one wishes to admit it to oneself or not.
While Bidet is certainly a long-time supporter of the Zionist “Greater Israel” project: “If Israel didn’t exist we’d have to create it.”, Trump takes it to the next bizarre level. For this reason, if he’s elected to a 2nd term, I stand by my long stated prediction that a war on Iran will commence. Again, in (behind the scenes) cahoots with the Zionazis.
Pick your poison, I guess. While the Dumbocraps want to wrest Russian markets, resources for their paymasters (and make Europe even more reliant on American or American-owned energy) at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives, the Rethuglicans are more concerned with taking out Iran and “containing” China. Not that both wings of the uniparty like China very much – for many of the same reasons they don’t like Evil Pooty Poot.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:59 utc | 174

@Arch and others re: enslavement
I’m sure there are factions within supporting both stances.

Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Jan 3 2024 20:00 utc | 175

but does it seem likely that the head of ‘a massive blackmail scheme” of the sort described would die in a New York prison cell, allegedly at the hands of another inmate?
Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2024 19:50 utc | 172
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Epstein’s “death” is a very suspicious event, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 20:05 utc | 176

48’s Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel to Times of 48 on the “only [final] solution” to the Palestinian problem:

“At the end of the war, Hamas rule will collapse, there are no municipal authorities, and the civilian population will be entirely dependent on humanitarian aid. There will be no work, and 60% of Gaza’s agricultural land will become security buffer zones,” the minister said.
“The Gaza problem is not just our problem. The world should support humanitarian emigration, because that’s the only solution I know.”

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/israel-in-talks-to-facilitate-humanitarian-emigration-of-gazans

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 3 2024 20:07 utc | 177

Anyway truth will out and the fabled little black book, when opened, will keep a lot of fabulists busy for a long time.
Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2024 19:50 utc | 172
That should be interesting. I’m somewhat skeptical that anything “useful” will emerge, at least information “useful” to us plebes trying to make sense of the world and all of that. And as with all great conspiracies, if anything truly “useful” (i.e., dangerous to our ruling elites in any real way) is in that little book, it won’t be allowed to come out any time within the next 50 years, just like the JFK files. I s’pose we’ll see.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 20:07 utc | 178

bevin@172…..check congressional votes, all major US politicians are in on the Genocide currently being conducted against Palestinians. They do that out of love for Squatters and spiteful hate against Palestinians regardless of what religion they are? You’re not the ‘list’ are you, no need to make excuses for such human garbage.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 3 2024 20:09 utc | 179

The unexpected for Israel will be no retaliation IMO, it’s clear that Iran and Co are chomping at the bit but I believe their allies throughout the world are keeping their heads very cool.
The Israelis are nearly busted, they went all in expecting all out war and chaos in the middle east. It hasn’t happened and won’t happen if cool heads prevail.
They have no plan B yet, just like their fellow lunatics in London and Washington. Dangerous times ahead.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Jan 3 2024 12:15 utc | 2
The general’s assassination itself was a provocation, and Iran then did not take the bait. Hopefully it will not now.

Posted by: defanger | Jan 3 2024 20:17 utc | 180

Anyway truth will out and the fabled little black book, when opened, will keep a lot of fabulists busy for a long time.
Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2024 19:50 utc | 172
The black book has been public for a while now: https://epsteinsblackbook.com
Flight logs are here.
It’s the client list that is missing.
Epstein did not kill himself (let alone by his inmate), it was clear murder.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 3 2024 20:26 utc | 181

Look at how the Zionist friendly/owned corporate MSM struggled to obfuscate Israeli involvement in the Soleimani assassination.
May, 2021: https://news.yahoo.com/conspiracy-is-hard-inside-the-trump-administrations-secret-plan-to-kill-qassem-soleimani-090058817.html

In the six hours before Soleimani boarded his flight from Damascus, the Iranian general switched cellphones three times, according to a U.S. military official. In Tel Aviv, U.S. Joint Special Operations Command liaisons worked with their Israeli counterparts to help track Soleimani’s cellphone patterns. The Israelis, who had access to Soleimani’s numbers, passed them off to the Americans, who traced Soleimani and his current phone to Baghdad. (The Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., did not respond to a request for comment.)

Whoops!
December, 2021: https://www.axios.com/2021/12/15/trump-soleimani-strike-netanyahu-israel

Worth noting: A former senior Israeli official said other senior members of the Trump administration, including Vice President Pence, had expressed appreciation for the Israeli role in the Soleimani killing and its aftermath.

October, 2023 (!!!): https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-mischaracterized-israel-role-hit-iran-soleimani-rcna120368

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump this week falsely characterized Israel’s role in his administration’s assassination of Iran’s top general in 2020, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the planning of the operation.
Trump said Wednesday that Israel planned to be part of the January 2020 operation that killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani but abruptly backed out the night before it was to take place. In his remarks, delivered before an audience at his Mar-a-Lago club in South Florida, Trump sharply criticized Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for that decision after months of working with the U.S. on the operation.
But the U.S. officials familiar with the planning said Trump’s comments are entirely false. “They were never on board with it,” said a former senior White House official, referring to the Israelis. “They always thought it was a dangerous and destabilizing idea.”

What interesting timing, isn’t it?! Initial reports correctly pointed out that American and Israeli operatives were working shoulder-to-shoulder in keeping tabs on Soleimani through (almost assuredly Israeli) cellular phone spying technology, then Orange Man Bad got mad at Bibi (according to anonymous sources) for allegedly not taking a more active role. Cut to 6 days after the Hamas incursion on October 7, 2023 and suddenly NBC News (et. al) are obliged to inform us morons that Israel played no role whatsoever!
You can’t make this shit up.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 20:27 utc | 182

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 3 2024 20:26 utc | 181
Yes, that’s partially correct. One of the black books has been public for a while, despite the MSM refusing to comment on it much, if at all.
However what is slated for release starting today is a different (although containing many overlapping names) list of persons named in various lawsuits against Epstein.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-orders-release-documents-naming-jeffrey-epstein-associates-rcna130592
IOW, not his honeypot “clients” per se, but “associates” and victims (the latter will not be disclosed if minors or otherwise having petitioned the court to redact their names).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 20:33 utc | 183

Posted by: defanger | Jan 3 2024 20:17 utc | 180
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Some in the bar want Putin, Iran, and the Ummah to take the bait.
The sort of people whose best move in a chess match is flipping the table the first time they are put into “Check”.
God has advised patience and perseverance in the face of being disrespected and attacked.

Respond to evil in the best manner. God knows well what they say about you (O Prophet).
(23:96)

The best manner is patience and perseverance. As a Sheikh that I enjoy often says, “If a dog barks at you, will you get down on all fours and bark back?”
I’ve mentioned many times that the way the Prophet PBUH dealt with the Jews of Medina, who repeatedly broke agreements (after he guaranteed their autonomy and freedom), was with a very gentle hand.
Trusting God means trusting in the outcome, whatever it is. It’s secular folks who are so neurotic about their short and fleeting lives because that is all that they believe exists. IMO, if one can see a longer timeline, a greater meaning, life doesn’t need to be approached with so much fear and cowardice.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 20:35 utc | 184

Mr Market @ 128, 151:
In an age when drones are becoming more important as offensive weapons, and US and other Western military bases in the Middle East are staffed mostly by conscripts and officers promoted more for how well they suck up to their superiors than for their competence, there is no need for impulsive tit-4-tat reprisals leading into escalation towards outright war. Suicide terrorists by now should be a thing of the past for intel agencies, and there are easier pickings for Iran, not that Tehran would ever stoop to using terrorism now. The US must be forced to realise that having military bases all around the world makes it less secure and is a huge financial liability.
Why else would the perpetrators of the attacks on the pilgrims to General Qassem Soleymani’s grave have carried out such deeds, unless to try to incite Iran into a war that would then suck in the US and its allies, against Iran and its allies? Someone clearly hopes to clean up and clean out someone else’s bank vaults after much less has been made.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 3 2024 20:39 utc | 185

bevin@172…..check congressional votes, all major US politicians are in on the Genocide currently being conducted against Palestinians. They do that out of love for Squatters and spiteful hate against Palestinians regardless of what religion they are? ..” sean the leprechaun@179
That is really the point that I was making: that Israel has no need to blackmail the US political caste, with whom they have (completely) been hand in glove since the seventies and effectively for three quarters of a century.
As to “human garbage” have you been talking to Israelis recently?
It’s a concept alien to most of the world.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2024 20:40 utc | 186

Yes, this is the third release of material related to Epstein, made up of first hand accounts of victims. It is not Epstein’s client list, which would be the real deal, let alone all the CDs, videos etc. confiscated by the FBI in his NY house, which are still undisclosed.
On topic, Germany just warned it’s citizens to leave Lebanon asap, as reported by MEE. I read also about Canada and Sweden doing the same, but didn’t find reliable sources yet.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 3 2024 20:41 utc | 187

Bevin
Are you saying prince Andrew was’nt a freand of epstien, JPMorgan ceo or Barcleys not envolved.
Are you saying that the over 100 names a high court judge ruled could be made public are a fictitous conspracy ?
Your very cleaver but some times i worry about you.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 3 2024 20:48 utc | 188

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 3 2024 13:51 utc | 24
This force, comprised of ‘the West’, controlled through government and policy by Zion / Israel, and including Israel itself, are small. This force relies on the continued belief of other countries and their populaces in their invincibility, maintained by power projection, propaganda, bribery, and blackmail.
The ‘West / Israel’, in relation to the other superpowers and elite countries, has become a paper tiger. The citizens, who are in general despised by the elites (or twats if you prefer) lack any reason to sacrifice life and limb for what they no longer view in the same light, as ‘their’ country. Social engineering, and forced influx of migrants, while undermining the native populations, has seen to that. Not that diversity is not good – it is -, but there must be a common culture that the people as one can unite behind. A set of common values and ethics is essential.
In all-out war, determination and resilience of the infantry ranks is critical. Russia. Or Turkey, or Iran, even the Yemeni Houthis may God protect them, all show courage, determination and spirit to fight to the last breath. It is why Palestine still fights on, despite complete destruction of their schools, homes, infrastructure and the murder of their kith and kin. You cannot defeat that spirit, even by killing some. Israel / Ukraine/ Zion-US has lost the war against Russia, just as they will fail in their bid to genocide Palestine, just as they will lose against Iran, and against China.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Jan 3 2024 20:48 utc | 189

‘Negotiations with Congo’ remind me of Eichmann’s plan to ship Europe’s Jews to Madagascar, or Palestine for that matter—which is strangely what happened via circuitous routes…
Pushing people off land by conquest, coercion and intimidation is the dance played in West Asia since the widespread domestication of plants. Will it transpire differently here? As far as I can see the only certain outcome is tearing the veil from the the post-war global order and yet another reminder of the moral bankruptcy of historical capitalism. My guess is that by 2040 Gaza will be Israel’s Florida/Gulf state with sun lounges on the beaches and LNG platforms off the coast. Whatever population remains will be serving drinks for 50c/hr. Actually not a guess. This will be: ‘mate, ya can’t fight progress!’

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 3 2024 20:50 utc | 190

Brian Berletic of the New Atlas has a big picture analysis of the events unfolding in the Middle East. He posits that things are following long term plans for Israel and the US. Depressing indeed. But “misery loves company”, here is Berletic’s youtube podcast. “Israel’s Incursion into Gaza Continues as US Seeks Wider War with Iran”
https://youtu.be/MOg91s4D8r4?si=ceMOqMWgVVs53OKj

Posted by: Willow | Jan 3 2024 21:02 utc | 191

bevin@186….and my point, they all can’t vote the same, to green light killing babies under rubble without being on the take or blackmailed. Even Kennedy is on board.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 3 2024 21:05 utc | 192

The US must be forced to realise that having military bases all around the world makes it less secure and is a huge financial liability.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 3 2024 20:39 utc | 185
‘The US’ is a nonsense term. It refers to many different things, according to context, and the differences in referents are intentionally obscured. Military bases around the world are not a financial liability for the ‘US’ that owns the US and most of the global economy, because the people who pay for it are the ‘US’ that works for them when it’s not paying taxes- and those same kinds of wage-slaves in the various satrapies of the Empire. Any benefits that accrue go to the ‘Elite US,’ costs are borne by the wage-slave US and the foreign victims of those military bases.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 3 2024 21:05 utc | 193

Arch @ 1538
For several months now, I’ve become more and more leery about Berletic. One wonders who his paymasters must be. Seems like I’m ever suspicious of those who wear the bespoke uniform of the water-carriers: Neckties.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 3 2024 16:44 utc | 88

On YouTube. End of story.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 3 2024 21:24 utc | 194

I operate under a simple and extremely accurate theory of how Western governments work, what’s the dumbest, most cowardly and most shameful course of action the Western governments could take – WITHOUT an immediately disastrous impact on their nearest election. Accordingly, i believe the US will continue to him and ha, moving ships into and out of the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, while shoveling money and weapons into Israel, with sporadic airstrikes and terrorist attacks on Russian, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Lebanese and Yemenis territory. But, not actually building a major armed force in the region that could maintain long term operations. Thus the US and it’s vassals will end up with the worst of all worlds, major regional and world powers angry at the US over repeated attacks, with the means of hitting back at major US assets and the US with no ability to support or withdraw it’s own forces. wheather it takes 2 months or 20 months the US is going to blunder into another military disaster

Posted by: Kadath | Jan 3 2024 21:34 utc | 195

Hedges on the impending expulsion of Gazans:

The Palestinians are being forced to choose between death from bombs, disease, exposure or starvation or being driven from their homeland.
There will soon reach a point where death will be so ubiquitous that deportation – for those who want to live – will be the only option.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/12/31/israels-genocide-betrays-the-holocaust/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 3 2024 21:35 utc | 196

Ron Paul asks who’s behind the Iran terror bombing.
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2024/01/03/ron-paul-asks-whos-behind-todays-terror-attack-in-iran/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 21:41 utc | 197

While Bidet is certainly a long-time supporter of the Zionist “Greater Israel” project… Trump takes it to the next bizarre level. For this reason, if he’s elected to a 2nd term, I stand by my long stated prediction that a war on Iran will commence. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 3 2024 19:59 utc | 174
Perhaps you’re more a fine connoisseur of Zionist nuances than me. In my book, the obliteration of Gaza is so vastly greater a crime than the assassination of Soleimani that Biden ranks far above Trump, in Zionazi props. “War with Iran will commence” — sooner than later, perhaps.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 3 2024 21:46 utc | 198

by Patroklos | Jan 3 2024 20:50 utc | 190
I overheard that similar story being very young in early 80s from my grandfather’s regular with friends teatime discussions.
Apparently, initially Allies and through the UK, wanted to settle remaining Jews from Europe in South-West Uganda around the Lake Edward area and Stalin was against it, as he pushed for the Palestine.
He naively thought that he would move in and preposition Palestine via exported and armed Jews to a Soviet side after the Englishman has gone.
What a blunder.
However, true is that Idi Amin would be the right guy to deal with Zionism there.
I was never able to verify this story. But today same as even back then, everything seems possible.
Israel talking to Congo to accept Palestinian refugees? Wild stuff, indeed.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 3 2024 21:54 utc | 199

While we’ve been watching ukraine and the middle east, the jews took over america and england.
Lock stock and barrel.
Serously ! Think about it.
That was the israelie plan.
It will show up from now on with the fake elections, notice any oposition ?
Next will come a more fatal virus.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 3 2024 21:59 utc | 200