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January 31, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-036

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Also it’s worth pointing out that according to Gore Vidal, Truman was paid 2 million in cash for his services at the UN. A week later he had second thoughts and tried to have the decision reversed.

Posted by: liveload | Jan 31 2024 23:48 utc | 101

Ring any bells?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 31 2024 20:19 utc | 53
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Sorry, no!

Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:51 utc | 102

News of US embassy in Iraq evacuating. Could just precautionary move against retaliation or 1st steps towards withdrawal.
Too early to tell.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 31 2024 23:55 utc | 103

“The United States is allegedly considering recognizing Palestine as an independent country.”
Only reason the USA would do so would be in order to formally declare war against it, but the USA no longer bothers with war declarations.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2024 23:58 utc | 104

A picture paints a thousand words.
https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1746594320549920832

Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 1 2024 0:08 utc | 106

by malenkov | Jan 31 2024 23:58 utc | 104
If true, that would be the American way out of genocide/real estate development they got themselves in, so naively pulled in by local and a remote Zion. I hope they respect UN resolution from 1947/8.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 1 2024 0:12 utc | 107

The history of Vladimir Jabotinsky disagrees with the statement about the USSR not knowing. If I recall correctly, the USSR had to be forced to stop occupying Iran in 1949. The UK had already withdrawn by that point.
Posted by: liveload | Jan 31 2024 23:37 utc | 97
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If I remember correctly, the US threatened to drop an atomic bomb on Russia if they didn’t pull out of Iran. Nice way to treat an Allie, don’t you think? The US is still in Germany and Japan don’t you know?

Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 0:16 utc | 108

Anyone with a heart and a conscience needs to flee these two parties ASAP and start a new one; the world can’t survive two genocide war Parties in the US at one time.
Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 21:49 utc | 70
And therein lies the dilemma, the systems in dual party states are specifically designed to ensure no 3rd party can ever eventuate. Even if one did, as in so many revolutions, the money boys just go in and corrupt the new group.
I suspect we haven’t reached the level of disgust and revulsion with our current corrupt regimes for a truly grass roots alternative to emerge. In Oz a few have tried, one group called the citizen’s party runs regular YouTube hour long discussions, too long for the modern attention span, and drawing miniscule numbers, credit to them for trying.

Posted by: Organic | Feb 1 2024 0:16 utc | 109

I also read this, unconfirmed:
The United States is allegedly considering recognizing Palestine as an independent country.
I doubt it’s true, but I mention it in any case.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 31 2024 23:46 utc | 100
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This morning the Brits (David Cameron) said the same thing. Somewhere else (can’t remember where) I read that there are a lot of strings attached to such “recognition,” like who would be the government of Gaza and the West Bank, limits on police and military (?) if even allowed. There was a lot more so stay tuned, something is cooking, and it does not bold well for the Palestinian people or their sovereignty.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 0:34 utc | 110

@ DuchessAndBob @ 75:
Actually, I’m kind of surprised at the large numbers of politicians in the collective west and Israel who continue to live unharmed myself. God knows, they are killing enough of the rest of us to warrant it.
@ Paul from Norway @ 80:
I think we are going to hear a lot of stories about this sort of thing as more time goes on.
Speaking of which, I just read this piece from CNN:
We are dying slowly:’ Palestinians are eating grass and drinking polluted water as famine looms across Gaza
31 Jan, ’24
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/middleeast/famine-looms-in-gaza-israel-war-intl/index.html
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I know the above is a long article, but it should be read in full.
I don’t think that things are repairable any more. The destruction that has been inflicted on Gaza is unlikely to be repaired for years, even if Israel stood down right now, today. The Palestinians will suffer health consequences for a generation, even if Israel stood down right now, today.
They are not at ‘risk of famine’ – they are in famine. They are starving to death now. If your children are eating grass and drinking salt water you are, ipso facto, starving.
If CNN, of all places, is publishing this, things are beyond the point where they can comfortably be hidden any longer. This shit is making even CNN squeamish about running cover for the Biden administration.
I cheer on the al-Qassam Bridgades of Hamas from afar. I read these articles and learn new and horrible stuff about what the assholes in my country (US) are willing to impose on other parts of the world and I write to my members of Congress. I pray, you know, just in case the Big Dude has his ears on. But it is hard to imagine what life is really like for the Palestinians at this point. It is unbearable; beyond the comprehension of anyone who has not lived through such things themselves. I don’t personally know anyone here in the states who has ever had to face this kind of situation. And I don’t know what I can do to make it stop.
I’m just devastated. Aghast. Appalled. Damn Biden and Netanyahu to the pits of hell.
(Sorry. This is why I don’t comment much. I do tend to get wound up.)

Posted by: Teri | Feb 1 2024 0:35 utc | 111

I know MoA is full of bloodthirsty armchair warriors, the Groanin Dunces and Bungling Archers of this world shouting for regime change faraway. They want to watch the fireworks as the gleaming towers of the Gulf burn.
Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 22:59 utc | 85
Your emotion has morphed into obsession.
Your obsession has made you unbalanced.
Unbalanced, you now create lies.
Like the very Zionists you rail against.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 0:37 utc | 112

I suspect we haven’t reached the level of disgust and revulsion with our current corrupt regimes for a truly grass roots alternative to emerge. In Oz a few have tried, one group called the citizen’s party runs regular YouTube hour long discussions, too long for the modern attention span, and drawing miniscule numbers, credit to them for trying.
Posted by: Organic | Feb 1 2024 0:16 utc | 109
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Unfortunately, you are correct. It would require a long process of class conscience building, but the US media owned by the 1% has a lock on America’s consciousness today. AI promises even more control by the 1%.
However, the 1% in the United States are so arrogant and full of themselves, they will probably crash and burn, taking most of us with them, before class-consciousness can save us. But perhaps the rest of the world can look on and learn something from our failures.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 0:47 utc | 113

I’m just devastated. Aghast. Appalled. Damn Biden and Netanyahu to the pits of hell.
(Sorry. This is why I don’t comment much. I do tend to get wound up.)
Posted by: Teri | Feb 1 2024 0:35 utc | 111
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You strike me a person with a good heart and good perspective. So please comment more often, it is appreciated.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 1:00 utc | 114

Ed | Feb 1 2024 0:34 utc | 110 ….
Sure the Israeli’s concentration camp Gaza / “artificial island”
scheme (more accurately, scam) will reappear at some point.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 1 2024 1:10 utc | 115

The IDF Rfid chip story is not far fetched. It’s a tale fact from a decade or so ago. There were kidnappings of soldiers and it was seen as a way to negate that. 2011 articles such as this quote
“received an order for its VeriChip microchip to be used for disaster preparedness and emergency management by the Israeli Military.
The VeriChip microchip was cleared by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 2004 for patient identification. The company’s integration partner intends to provide the microchips to the Israel Defense Forces, the State of Israel’s military force.”
One has to think those seals had the same device so can’t get lost either. Chips were touted as safety for children promoted heavily in Latin America where kidnappings for ransom are common. But obviously never got traction.its been rebranded for banking purposes. The most interesting thing I ever read was soros was heavily invested in rfid chip companies and kushners dubiously funded 666 building housed such a company at one point . Then came along gates and his bioluminesence luciferase , for vaccine I’d data and soros moved his money into this more promising tech.

Posted by: Hankster | Feb 1 2024 1:21 utc | 116

Trita Parsi reposted
Trita Parsi
@tparsi
My God.
Is the Biden campaign resorting to barring Muslims from attending his campaign events, fearing they will protest against his support for the slaughter in Gaza? And this will convince voters that he is different from Trump?
https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1752506285365264414

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 1:33 utc | 117

Russia, China, Iran, Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah. Don’t take the bait. Keep intelligently doing what you’re doing. Slowly attrit Ukraine. Slowly attrit Israel. Respond only incrementally to the outrageous war crimes that Israel and Israel’s controlled United States are committing against you.
Further understand. The American people are with you. Yet also understand. The Talmudic demons fully control the governments, banking and media of the West. Especially the United States.
Recognize what is going on. The Jews of the Ukraine, Israel and the West have been unmasked. Let them continue exposing themselves. The world is beginning to understand these Talmudic demons for who they are. Their only salvation is a world war. To either distract the world from who they are. Or to burn the entire world down with them.

Posted by: RLTW | Feb 1 2024 1:40 utc | 118

UNRWA
@UNRWA
“We’ve lost a health clinic, major shelters- facilities that were supporting the people of Khan Younis”
@TomWhiteGaza
explains how @UNRWA
along with thousands of the already displaced #Gaza population have been forced to flee Khan Younis due to intense fighting over last 8 days.
https://twitter.com/UNRWA/status/1752648739422937233

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 1:42 utc | 119

Yanis Varoufakis
@yanisvaroufakis
The objective is now made abundantly clear in this NYT article: Abolish UNRWA. Render Palestinian refugees citizens of other countries. Then, hand over their land to Israel’s settlers. In short, defunding UNRWA is part of Israel’s ethnic cleansing plan.
https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1752473906084987356

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 1:47 utc | 120

World of Statistics
@stats_feed
BREAKING: Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE confirm they are joining the BRICS.
10 BRICS members:
Brazil 🇧🇷
Russia 🇷🇺
India 🇮🇳
China 🇨🇳
South Africa 🇿🇦
Egypt 🇪🇬
Ethiopia 🇪🇹
Iran 🇮🇷
Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
UAE 🇦🇪
https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1752735277960036825

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 1:51 utc | 121

I’ve been thinking about this “drone strike on Tower 22”, and I suspect that the confusion coming from Washington is well-founded.
Because I am certain that ALL these events in the Middle East are being coordinated within the BRICS+ group, and so while the Biden Administration has been knee-jerking all their responses, the BRICS+ players have gamed out all their responses.
And I think the smarter people in the White House know that, and are desperate not to knee-jerk to this latest event.
Here, an example of what could go horribly, horribly wrong for Genicide Joe.
Biden: We have determined that the drone was a Shahed drone of the type made by Iran
Biden: I therefore hold Iran directly responsible for this act and have instructed the Pentagon to prepare…
Putin: It was one of ours.
Biden: … to …. err, what? What did you just say?
Putin: It was one of ours. You know we make them under license, right?
Biden: [mouth opens and shuts, no sound]
Biden: But. But. But. Why did you give them one of your drones?
Putin: We didn’t. I said it was one of ours, I didn’t say we gave it to them.
Biden: But, then… how did they…
Putin: [Points towards Kiev, smirks]
It doesn’t matter if what Putin says is true, the mere fact of saying it puts Biden in an impossible position.
He can’t possibly attack RUSSIA over these deaths, even if Russia was responsible.
He can’t possibly attack IRAN over these deaths if Russia has taken responsibility for that drone.
He can’t possible accept Putin’s explanation in order to back down, since that skewers Ukraine.
He’ll be stuck in an impossible position of his own making, simply because he knee-jerked his reaction to this attack.
I’m not saying this is LIKELY, but it is POSSIBLE, and if I can think of this then so can the Russians, and so can the Americans.
DON’T DO THIS, BIDEN, BECAUSE IT’S A TRAP.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 1:53 utc | 122

In short, defunding UNRWA is part of Israel’s ethnic cleansing plan.
Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 1:47 utc | 120
Bingo.
But it gets worse (or better, depending on your perspective):
If destroying UNRWA doesn’t work, the next step will be to destroy the UNGA, having already infiltrated and corrupted most other UN organs (for example the OPCW).
Yes. Literally destroy the entire UN system.

In hindsight, one could conclude that the sole accomplishment of the entire U.N system, from inception to present day, has been to midwife the creation of ‘Israel’.

That is literally it’s only *significant* achievement.
Everything else has been mere salad dressing.
Now, the U.N has served it’s purpose and it’s becoming more of a barrier to ‘Israel’s’ objectives in the middle east.
So it’s time for the controlled demolition of the U.N system to take place, beginning with UNRWA.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 2:05 utc | 123

“If he doesn’t, then he’s just a provocateur and the best thing we can do is ignore him.”
Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 31 2024 18:59 utc | 36
You are right, that’s the correct way to deal with Pi- I was a dumb hothead.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 1 2024 2:05 utc | 124

Only reason the USA would do so would be in order to formally declare war against it, but the USA no longer bothers with war declarations.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2024 23:58 utc | 104
Exactly. I suspect that this ties in with the fact that the IDF is losing the battle on the ground in Gaza.
Moreover, they are losing the battle on the Hezbollah front.
Further, it’s become clear that this notion of “Eretz Israel” is dead in the water because the IDF is a damp squib when it comes to ground warfare. It cannot take on the ground forces of Syria, Jordan, the PMUs of Iraq, the Resistance forces of Lebanon and certainly not HAMAS in a ground battle without air support and steady American supply lines.
All this leads to one conclusion: American (“coalition of the willing”) forces will be required to not only secure Occupied Palestine’s ‘borders’ for the Zionists but achieve it’s aims of territorial conquest.
This is the only reason why David Cameron of the UK and the USA would ever float such a notion.
What would be interesting is what borders they propose the State of Palestine to be recognised upon. That would be the final “tell”.
Aside:
I say ‘borders’ because the Zionists have no intention of ever demarcating the borders of ‘israel’ regardless of what happens to the Palestinians. They would want to forever retain the option of taking whatever they deem valuable from whatever country they wish, even up to the borders of Iran.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 2:27 utc | 125

PQ @85
QUESTION: HOW should Arabs who want to extricate themselves from Empire parasites do so without
1. Setting their own homes on fire
2. Having their assets frozen
3. Getting themselves assassinated
4. Setting off the civilization war that Crook keeps blabbering about.
For #2 I would suggest Saudi Arabia announce that since the US/UK has defended the Palistinianan relief agency that they are stepping up to fulfill that role. Of course resources for this project will have to come from savings. And because we don’t know how much it will take, we are liquidating all of our US investments to make sure we can meet the responsibility

Posted by: Trumpeter | Feb 1 2024 2:31 utc | 126

Wolfgang Streeck, in a recent interview linked with here recently, wondered aloud where the IDF’s POW camps were?
This looks like the answer:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/handcuffed-and-executed-30-bodies-found-in-northern-gaza-school-video/
The current assault on Gaza is establishing new precedents all the time for bestial and disgraceful affronts to the oldest laws of conflict. What Israel is doing in Gaza has not been done since the einsatzgruppen followed up the Barbarossa forces.
Except that it is worse- Israel is not singling out the Communists and the Jews it is killing them all.
If there are no consequences for this behaviour-except for replacement ammunition being rushed to the executioners- our society crumbles. The idea that critics of power should be allowed to live, let alone voice their opinions cannot long survive our collective approval of what is being done in Gaza.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 1 2024 2:33 utc | 127

DON’T DO THIS, BIDEN, BECAUSE IT’S A TRAP.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 1:53 utc | 122
Huh? What is wrong with you? This is very woolly thinking.
Biden, do it do it do it ……. please do it!
Biden please please please put US ground troops in Israel and Gaza …. do it do it do it.
Biden please bomb the hell out of Yemen …. do it do it do it
Biden please put US ground troops in Ukraine, and tanks and artillery and F35s and B2 Bombers, please everything you got….. do it do it do it
Biden please put Nukes aimed at Russia in Ukraine Latvia Lithuania and Estonia and Finland …. please do it do it do it.
Biden please launch a landing assault on North Korea with US NATO Sth Korean marines …. please do it do it do it.
Biden please close the Red Sea and Persian Gulf to all Chinese Shipping, and close the Straits of Malacca as well as put US Ground troops, US fighter aircraft, US Naval ships in their ports, and Patriot missile batteries inside TAIWAN …. please Biden do it do it do it.
Right Now!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 2:36 utc | 128

Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 18:55 utc | 33
The Hamas document, pdf:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf
Posted by: JB | Jan 31 2024 19:31 utc | 46
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Thanks, JB.
I am currently reading the document.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 1 2024 2:40 utc | 129

DON’T DO THIS, BIDEN, BECAUSE IT’S A TRAP.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 1:53 utc | 122
What is wrong with you?
This is exactly what you should want him to do … and more. US aircraft and naval ships with Marines and ground troops inside Israel/Gaza, Taiwan and Ukraine, Lebanon, and an invasion of North Korea would be great!
As well as banning Chinese shipping from the red sea, Persian gulf and the straits of Malacca and entry into any US or NATO Port.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 2:41 utc | 130

Positioning US Nukes in all 3 Baltic states Moldova and Finland ….. icing on the top!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 2:43 utc | 131

The US Navy gate crashing the Black Sea through the Bosporus Absolutely Fabulous!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 2:44 utc | 132

https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-fails-to-destroy-hamas-tunnels-report
This is incredible- but stories i have read lately about Jew’s in the ZZ and Wermacht sacrificing their own? Well…
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jan 31 2024 22:50 utc | 80
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The one comment under this article questions the whole tunnel narrative.
I myself have wondered why Hamas doesn’t build tunnels under the wall, to emerge in Israel proper. And I also wondered why more civilians couldn’t shelter in the tunnels.
There are probably obvious answers.
But they say the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask, so I would like to hear some answers.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 1 2024 2:49 utc | 133

Re 80, chips in hands,
Perhaps the Zionists put chips in the hands to raise the soldiers’ morale—be assured that they can be found under the rubble they create, and saved.
Whereas actually the chips serve as body detectors to eliminate them. Macabre thought. Good enough for a movie plot, though.
Honestly, who is going to venture into that kind of hellscape to rescue injured soldiers. How? Israel already showed that they would blow away their own who escaped.
And who came up with the name Hannibal Directive?
Is the eponym Hannibal the General?
Hannibal the Cannibal seems more likely.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 1 2024 2:57 utc | 134

Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 1:00 utc | 114
I’m just devastated. Aghast. Appalled. Damn Biden and Netanyahu to the pits of hell.
(Sorry. This is why I don’t comment much. I do tend to get wound up.)
Posted by: Teri | Feb 1 2024 0:35 utc | 111
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You strike me a person with a good heart and good perspective. So please comment more often, it is appreciated.
By me as well.
I’m beyond being appalled. But I have it on good authority that Biden , Netanyahu and others in their jerking circle presented themselves to Lucifer with the object of securing their spots in Hades. Old Lucifer let out a hideous growl and told them that the aura of blatant lies around them ponged to high heaven and was overwhelming repellent to him and the attendant demons. In no uncertain terms he told them to piss off and consult Yahweh and his followers in heaven where their lie stench would be appreciated as perfume.
“They thrive on lies and invented history there, so begone you gaggle of frauds and try conning the competition.”

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 1 2024 3:06 utc | 135

100 and 110
The UK and the US would do this only to try to get out ahead of something they see rolling up behind them.
To get control of it if they can’t abort it.
As they did with the Fatah and the PLO.
Be sure to castrate the Palestinian infant even before birth.
I don’t see Hamas falling for this.
I think they, and all Palestinians, understand what self-determination means. Too late, Bro’s!

Posted by: Jane | Feb 1 2024 3:14 utc | 136

I’ve been thinking about how to put this question, so as not step on any sensitivities. Alas…
Price/value of a life
In the past few hours we’ve seen the emperor pulling his middle finger away from the red button — some sort of de-escalation is afoot.
My question is: If the emperor was willing to start WWIII over the death of three US Americans, how many of equivalent value of the ‘other’ will it take to start such a war?
The ‘other’ — Lebanese, Palestinians, Iranians, etc, well, you know, the ‘other.’

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 1 2024 3:37 utc | 137

Jane @133
Looks like when the chips are down, the IDF are struggling.

Posted by: AJ | Feb 1 2024 3:43 utc | 138

Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 1 2024 0:08 utc | 106

A picture paints a thousand words.
“>https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1746594320549920832

Did you actually watch the video?
Two French ladies in colonial Vietnam cast little gifts (candy? wrapped coins?) among a gaggle of local kids who enthusiastically pick them up. The ladies and the kids are relaxed and enjoy the occasion – obviously some traditional observance that was organized in advance.
The paired slogans written in Chinese on the doorposts behind the ladies indicate that the location is a Buddhist temple. The occasion is probably Lunar New Year (Tet) or a similar traditional occasion for giving little gifts to children. In other words, the French ladies are honoring and following local traditions.
Unfamiliar with the cultural background, and ignoring the joyous atmosphere (and the absence of adults picking up any gifts), the ever-wordy Trita Parsi scowls that “This was how France treated the Vietnamese.” Would that the French had more consistently exhibited this kind of patrician benevolence!
The always wordy Trita Parsi claims to see “This was how France treated the Vietnamese.

Posted by: Pacific Observer | Feb 1 2024 3:48 utc | 139

The ‘other’ — Lebanese, Palestinians, Iranians, etc, well, you know, the ‘other.’
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 1 2024 3:37 utc | 136
Many more than 6 million!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 4:00 utc | 140

fyi
https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1751569978380153283
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi – Prof of English Literature in Tehran
When Israel murdered 152 UNRWA employees, there was no Western condemnation.
After the ICJ ruling, Western regimes stopped funding the UNRWA, which feeds starving Gazan kids. They referred to claims made by the genocidal regime regarding 12 employees.
This is sickening revenge.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 1 2024 4:06 utc | 141

PQ @85 @ Trumpeter | Feb 1 2024 2:31 utc | 126
QUESTION: HOW should Arabs who want to extricate themselves from Empire parasites do so without
1. Setting their own homes on fire
2. Having their assets frozen
3. Getting themselves assassinated
4. Setting off the civilization war that Crook keeps blabbering about.
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My Question is: HOW should WESTERNERS who want to extricate themselves from Empire parasites do so without
……….. ???

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 4:07 utc | 142

5. Being arrested and Jailed?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 4:08 utc | 143

…. I myself have wondered why Hamas doesn’t build tunnels under the wall, to emerge in Israel proper.…..
There has been evidence all along, since 2.Oct, that Arab raiding parties emerge from tunnels outside the wall .

Posted by: Exile | Feb 1 2024 4:10 utc | 144

Did everyone forget to put on their skeptic’s hats today? RFD chips cannot be detected from more than a few inches away from the detector. Unlike chips in cell phones, which utilize the phone battery to power a signal that can be detected from hundreds or thousands of meters away, implanted chips are not intrinsically powered. Anyone who has worked in a modern RFID controlled access building has experienced this truth. [The battery is in the reading device, not the RFD containing card.] Even if Hamas did remove the chips (yeah, sure, they had plenty of time to do this—buy my bridge), the IDF would have to be mere feet away to detect them
THEREFORE THE CRADLE ARTICLE IS WRONG, although it would be a good idea for the IDF or any military to implant them in soldiers so they can rapidly identify their dead soldiers who have been burned to a crisp along with their dog tags and fingerprints.
Karlof1 can make his own defense for referencing Allister Crooke’s views, but really, the man deserves some respect for his diplomatic career in the Middle East. He speaks carefully, but I think he has recently referenced the Palestinian struggle as one of national liberation. None of us commenters on this site, self included, seem particularly skilled at applying methods of historical materialism to the present conflict, but there do seem to be a number of different frames of reference that are useful to understanding today’s changing world. Here’s a few:
1. Civilization conflict (Crooke, Aleksander Dugin): The Muslim World, for all its schisms and sects, seems to be in process of abandoning its flirtation with western(European) culture and values and is seeking internal unity and independent stances from the west.
2. The Global South is in process of freeing itself from the colonial imposed style of debt controlled and severely restricted development. (Michael Hudson)
3. Civilizational conflict between human religions based values vs. globalist decadent values (Martyanov, Dugin)
4. Present period is simply the continuation of the internecine struggle between capitalist countries for markets and resources (most Marxist or socialist leaning folks) and a period of intensification of the many internal contradictions inherent in capitalism.
5. Continuation of the Great Game for control of the Asian continent(Mackinder)
6. Related to 4, the present period is a continuation of the process of decolonialization and a quickening of the end phase of the Age of Empires.
7. An end to the unipolar moment and the start of a new era of opposing political and economic blocs (probably a lot of western politicians and ‘realists’ like Mearsheimer)
To the extent any of these views portray aspects of the reality, they may be useful frames from which to view the dynamic changes happening in the world today.

Posted by: mjh | Feb 1 2024 4:10 utc | 145

@129 Lavrov’s Dog I cannot agree. The Thing we should ll wish for is that the USA gets decked by a deft judo throw, not that it lose a 15-round bare-knuckle boxing match.
The USA would lose either way but the latter results in buckets of blood, the former does not.
What is wrong with you?
What I think BRICS+ is trying to do is outmanoeuvre the neocons so that they are EJECTED from the Middle East.
They do not want to beat the USA to a bloody pulp INSIDE the Middle East.
Who in their right mind wants that?

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 4:16 utc | 146

Posted by: Jane | Feb 1 2024 2:49 utc | 132
It makes sense to me:
>I myself have wondered why Hamas doesn’t build tunnels under the wall, to emerge in Israel proper.
That’s where the IDF would have their most sensitive monitoring equipment. Tunneling would be detected almost immediately here.
>And I also wondered why more civilians couldn’t shelter in the tunnels.
1. The risk of infiltration among civilians by mossad operatives in the strip would give the entire tunnel system away.
2. Putting the civilians in tunnels would give yet another excuse to mass murder civilians under the excuse of “using military infrastructure for civilian purposes and vice versa”
3. Putting civilians in tunnels would allow the IDF to murder thousands in one go: Simply flooding the tunnels or sealing them or pumping ZyklonB would make the act of Genocide much more efficient. (Then we can all blame Hamas for “creating infrastructure to enable genocide” and create conspiracy theories about how Hamas and Mossad were probably colluding in the genocide /s)
4. Putting civilians in the tunnels for a multi-month conflict would result in their early mass starvation or death by disease. Nothing spreads faster than a viral outbreak in a suffocating tunnel environment where every breath of air is essentially recycled 9 times from other breathers …
… I could go on.
The Short and skinny: The act of sheltering Gaza’s civilians in the single available combat infrastructure available to the Palestinian resistance would turn that defence infrastructure into a literal engine for their demise.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 4:17 utc | 147

He’ll be stuck in an impossible position of his own making, simply because he knee-jerked his reaction to this attack.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 1:53 utc | 122
Just imagine how awkward it would be if the drone/missile was of US origin and had been sent to Ukraine, only to be sold on the black-market to whomever. And now – after some forensic investigation – it’s mangled fragments have been identified in the Tower 22 bomb crater.

Posted by: largolaw | Feb 1 2024 4:42 utc | 148

The Thing we should ll wish for is that the USA gets decked by a deft judo throw, not that it lose a 15-round bare-knuckle boxing match.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 4:16 utc | 144
I do not know of any nation in modern times who have managed to throw off the yoke of American imperialism without a “15-round bare knuckle boxing match”.
All Resistance strategy utilises time and endurance to compensate for lack of weapons and technology. All resistance strategy puts up blood as collateral instead of fiat currency and gold.
While I would prefer the “deft judo throw” you speak of, it is not something I have seen concretised in the current reality.
Which leaves the only option, other than bloody resistance, as meekly remaining a footstool for Empire while the Empire erodes your identity, independence, fighting spirit, history and wealth.
The longer a nation remains under the boot of empire, the weaker it gets until eventually all capacity for resistance and desire for freedom is erased.
Eventually the choice has to be made and the price for freedom paid.
And, if you want to know what a “deft judo throw” would look like, it would probably be something that would horrify you even more:
A covert nuclear weapons program carried out under the noses of American occupiers, announced with a test in an occupied country followed by a request for American forces to leave. This again is another fantasy scenario – one can’t expect occupied people to still have the wherewithal to develop an entire covert nuclear weapons programme.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 4:44 utc | 149

https://twitter.com/decensorednews/status/1752825048845480109
“NEW: South Africa to the UN Security Council: “We reiterate that the international community CANNOT proclaim the importance of international law and the importance of the UN Charter in SOME situations and not in others, as if the rule of law only applies to a select few.”
“For international law to be credible, it should be uniformly applied, and not selective.””

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 1 2024 5:10 utc | 150

Posted by: turd | Jan 31 2024 19:03 utc | 38
I understand your points and they do make much sense, if in the US/UK those in power were sane. Problem is they are not, they have proven time and time again they are psychopathic liars and murderers, UK has a much linger history of rape and pillage than US but US is trying to surpass by a mile.
Deeds not words. Compare what Russia and especially China have been doing for the past 20+ years – they match nearly word for word what they espouse in policy papers and goals. US/UK/zionists and their minions are proven liars as soon as they open their mouths.
Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 19:27 utc | 43
what would you say to the idea that maybe Russia and China don’t abuse their power like the US does simply because they do not have the ability to?
Another way to put it might be, if you think Russia, China, or some other country would be better than the US, what would the reason for that be? do you think a different race of people would act in a more ethical way or something? Why would it be any different? fundamentally wouldn’t the nulands of the world just find themselves in those same positions of power, controlling the world, but this time it would just be in a Russian in Chinese government instead of a US one?

Posted by: turd | Feb 1 2024 5:20 utc | 151

Another way to put it might be, if you think Russia, China, or some other country would be better than the US, what would the reason for that be? do you think a different race of people would act in a more ethical way or something?
Posted by: turd | Feb 1 2024 5:20 utc | 149
A different culture. The west is still stuck in the 500 year plus Westphalia or Holy Roman Empire culture. Russia and China plus many non west nations have moved forward with time rather than stuck in the past and relize the world of empires is a relic of the past.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 1 2024 5:29 utc | 152

RE: flooding tunnels
Propaganda nonsense. If the IDF was capable of this they’d have long since done it.

Posted by: luther7718 | Feb 1 2024 5:41 utc | 153

I am considering to start any conversation with anyone, with the question – “are you for or against the ceasefire in Gaza?”

Posted by: fanto | Feb 1 2024 5:51 utc | 154

Chris Hedges has a new article out. In it he quotes a University Professor‘s statement:

As a faculty member at UCSF, disgraced dermatologist Howard Maibach exposed and injected over 2,600 imprisoned Black and brown people with chemicals in experiments that echoed the experiments put on trial at the Doctors’ Trial just a few years before he went to medical school in Pennsylvania. There he studied under Albert Kligman, who taught him how to exploit Black people for medical experimentation,

This simply can not be true. Does anyone have background on this episode ? Link to article
https://www.unz.com/article/the-silence-of-the-damned/

Posted by: Exile | Feb 1 2024 6:06 utc | 155

I enlisted in Infantry in 1989. There were some standards still back then. Just a little. Then Clinton was elected. Ashamed to say I voted for him as a 2LT out of OCS. But the alternative wouldn’t have been any different. We all understand that now.
There was a girl. Utterly unqualified. Whom they pushed into the cockpit of an F-14 Tomcat. First woman fighter pilot they declared! Kara Hultgreen. Promptly flew that Tomcat off the side of the carrier and died. Male co-pilot ejected and lived (that nervous motherfucker had his hand on the ejection handle since day one of that sociology experiment). Totally covered up.
Fast forward today: 70 iq women, blacks and trannies are flying your commercial airliners. I’m done flying. Used to be when I boarded an aircraft and looked into the cockpit I saw retired Maverick and Iceman with thousands hours of Airforce flight hours. Now I see Lafonda and Jamal. Who are barely literate and think that 2+2=5 because math is racist.
Nope. Ain’t flying anymore. It’s one thing when that 70 iq affirmative action toad is fucking up your driver’s license renewal at the DMV. It’s a whole new level of “oh shit” when you see him in the cockpit of your 737 commercial airliner.
So where am I going with this? Standardized IQ. And the repercussions there of. Being a man of the Army, from Enlisted to NCO to Officer, I know for a fact that the US military has consummate records and studies. I spent three years at the JFKSWCS selecting and training Green Berets.
I know of what I speak. Bare minimum for a man to even be considered for SFAS was 115. Don’t what it is now.
Bluntly. 85 iq is the known minimum military standard for trainability. In Vietnam McNamara sought to expand draft numbers by lowering the iq standard to 80. McNamara drafted 100k in that category. Damn near all blacks. They were known as “McNamara’s Niggers.”
They required four times more time, money and resources just to train to basic 11-B, E-1 standards. Most tragically, they died at 2.5 higher rate.
Domestically the military also used to recognize the fact that 83 iq was the minimum required to be able to comprehend and acclimatize into a modern industrial Republic.
Problem:
American blacks an average iq of 80.

Posted by: RLTW | Feb 1 2024 6:10 utc | 156

Positioning US Nukes in all 3 Baltic states Moldova and Finland ….. icing on the top!
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 2:43 utc | 130
Incidentally (?) Finland was one of the countries that cut funding to UNRWA

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 1 2024 6:18 utc | 157

While I would prefer the “deft judo throw” you speak of, it is not something I have seen concretised in the current reality.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 4:44 utc | 147
Good news, Arch! Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso have thrown off the imperial yoke with deft judo throws!
What does a deft judo throw consist of? Non-violence, nobody getting hurt? Not at all. It consists of defeating an opponent with his own energy. While the SMO and the fighting in Gaza are both brutal, they are nothing like the reality of total war. In both cases, the energy of the US/NATO/Israel is being employed to defeat them, and the Bidenites seem finally to have caught a clue that they harder they fight, the harder they’ll fall. If the Axis of Resistance strategy of frog-boiling succeeds- and so far, it’s doing very well and the US shows no ability to stop it- then the horrors of Gaza will seem a small price to pay compared to, say, Vietnam or North Korea. The Gazans are certainly taking a beating and the crimes against them are disgusting, but they won’t amount to but a small fraction of the casualties of the sanctions war against Saddam.
If the US leaves Iraq, it will soon have to leave Syria. If it leaves Iraq and Syria, it will have to leave Jordan, and Israel’s long eastern border will become insecure, and Israel will have to make real peace. That’s some deft judo.

Posted by: Honzo | Feb 1 2024 6:23 utc | 158

Yemen
Apparently the Yemini’s hit a US merchant ship off Aden -don’t know exactly where or whether the ship was damaged. Is there any more credible info?
On another tack, MSM frequently reports tha Western naval ships in and around the Red Sea are being targeted by “anti ship ballistic missiles.” I think this is bs for a number of reasons, but could reconcile these reports with the Houti’s using their old SCUD ground attack missiles in some sort of anti-ship capacity. Has anyone got further insight on this?

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 1 2024 6:26 utc | 159

Why would it be any different?
Posted by: turd | Feb 1 2024 5:20 utc | 149
NO. You don’t get to do that number so easily.
Why would it be the same?
Russia and China already exist here in reality. Please stop trying to defy reality with making up imaginative thought bubbles about some non-existent future that does not exist.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 6:30 utc | 160

What I think BRICS+ is trying to do is outmanoeuvre the neocons so that they are EJECTED from the Middle East.
They do not want to beat the USA to a bloody pulp INSIDE the Middle East.
Who in their right mind wants that?
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Feb 1 2024 4:16 utc | 144
Well sure, you’re for a soft landing, kind of a person. OK. That’s fine, if that’s what you really believe in. I can understand that.
But Me? I would like the USA to be beaten to a bloody pulp in every place they are located throughout the world, but particularly back home in nth America as well.
Why? Am I mad? Evil? No. Not at all. I am in my right mind! Because it is the only thing that will stop these evil psychopaths (and the American citizenry who enable them) from continuing with their death and destruction across the world.
For no other reason than that it is the only way to stop them. And stop them is what I want to happen.
Now would be nice. I do not care one bit how much blood is split. I am , the world should be, way beyond such considerations given the evil and death they have perpetrated since WW2 and especially post 1990.
3 million alone in Vietnam!
My response to the go slow be gentle be nice brigade is this – Go cry me a river! Enough!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 1 2024 6:42 utc | 161

Average Israeli IQ is 93. Might be a partial explaination why the IDF is performinb so poorly.
Imagine slicing and dicing your conscripts based on entry testing – the higher IQ ones go into Air Force and various EW branches. The next tranche of IQ gets mechanic and arty training. From a pool of 93 average IQ – the ground pounders and tankers must have IQs in the 80s.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 1 2024 6:43 utc | 162

A different culture. The west is still stuck in the 500 year plus Westphalia or Holy Roman Empire culture. Russia and China plus many non west nations have moved forward with time rather than stuck in the past and relize the world of empires is a relic of the past.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 1 2024 5:29 utc | 150
“moved forward with time rather than stuck in the past” that’s so vague that it’s meaningless; I’m not going to make your argument for you.
The culture in the US has changed drastically in the last 5-10 years. Also, how can the US be stuck in a 500 year anything when it didn’t exist 500 years ago? Even if there was a better culture in a different country, it would ultimately just get hijacked by the nulands of the world and turned into the “culture” that exists in the West now.

Posted by: turd | Feb 1 2024 6:46 utc | 163

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
Tory MP Tobias Ellwood: “Hamas would have made a lot of effort to try and infiltrate not just UNRWA but other agencies as well…”
Host: “Where is the evidence [for that]?”
Ellwood: “I’m not going to be able to show you any evidence from London”
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1752701551343473079

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 6:46 utc | 164

Yemen
Apparently the Yemini’s hit a US merchant ship off Aden -don’t know exactly where or whether the ship was damaged. Is there any more credible info?
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 1 2024 6:26 utc | 157
Hindustan Times claims the merchant ship “kol” has been hit. Here’s a video with the purported announcement by Brig. Gen. Yahya Sarea:
Houthi Missile Hits Israel-bound U.S. Ship, Another Misses Warship; 10 Drones Destroyed In Yemen

The U.S. Navy swung into action as Houthi rebels targeted ships in the Red Sea. In 24 hours, the Iran-backed rebels launched missile attacks on American merchant ship and destroyer USS Gravely. While the U.S. claimed that both missiles were shot down, the Houthis said that there were direct hits on both ships. Merchant ship Koi was reportedly enroute Israel when it was attacked in the Red Sea. Meanwhile, CNN reported that hours before the attack on Koi, a Houthi missile narrowly missed USS Gravely in first such close encounter. In response, the U.S. destroyed 10 prepared-to-launch drones in Yemen. The Houthis have warned that U.S., and UK ships in the Red Sea were legitimate targets since their ‘foolish’ attacks on Yemen.

Ansarallah claims both ships were hit. USS Gravely claims they missed. MV Koi (Kol?) is silent on the matter (probably too busy bleeding out).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 6:49 utc | 165

fyi
here we go again, another f*cking war under Biden & the Democrat knuckleheads in DC
I suppose they expect Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iraqi militias, the Houthis, and Iran to just sit and take it, eh?
All to support a barbaric apartheid state which everyone outside the Western powers truly hates, and whose days are now numbered….
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/01/31/report-us-plans-weeks-long-bombing-campaign-against-iranian-targets/
Report: US Plans Weeks-Long Bombing Campaign Against Iranian Targets
The White House says the US response to the Jordan drone attack won’t be a ‘one-off’
“US officials told NBC News that the US is planning to launch a weeks-long bombing campaign in the Middle East in retaliation for the drone attack in northeast Jordan that killed three American soldiers.
While the potential targets are not inside Iran, direct attacks on the Iranian military could provoke a full-blown war between the US and Iran…..
The officials said that the targets are expected to include Iranian targets outside of Iran, and the campaign will involve strikes and cyber operations. Other reports have said the US is considering targeting Iranians in Iraq and Syria or the Iranian navy…..
Iran has vowed to respond to any US attacks on Iranians in the region. “The Islamic Republic would decisively respond to any attack on the county, its interests and nationals under any pretexts,” said Amir Saeid Iravani, Iran’s ambassador to the UN.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 1 2024 6:49 utc | 166

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Pelham
@Resist_05
Israel bombed UNRWA refugee camps..
Israel bombed UNRWA schools..
Israel blocked UNRWA food aid..
Israel bombed UNRWA warehouses..
Israel killed over 10,000 children registered with UNRWA..
Now Israel says UNRWA is the terrorists, and they are the victims…🇮🇱
https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1752605190765838523

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 6:49 utc | 167

Good news, Arch! Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso have thrown off the imperial yoke with deft judo throws!
What does a deft judo throw consist of? Non-violence, nobody getting hurt? Not at all. It consists of defeating an opponent with his own energy.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 1 2024 6:23 utc | 156
Oh wow, Honzo! Thanks for that! I really didn’t have a clue.
Hey, would you do the Houthi, Libyans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Haitians a favour?
Would you take a trip down to each of those countries and let them in on your cool judo move? Maybe a couple of workshops and a slide presentation or two?
I’m sure they’ll reward you richly for your sage advice.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 7:00 utc | 168

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
Israels allies in the west suspend funding UNRWA.
The presenter spells it out.
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1752602183491535018

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 7:10 utc | 169

Apropros of very little, I happened to be looking at the CIApedia page for Yahya Sinwar. And naturally it did seem largely useless in terms of actual information (although I did find what I was looking for–Sinwar was born in 1962 in Gaza, his family had been expelled from Al-Majdal Asqalan (Ashkelon) in 1948 by Zionist terrorists). Anyway, I happened to look at the list of references at the bottom of the page. A real laugh. Here is the summary of sources:
1. Hamas website (Palestine)
2. Guardian (UK)
3. Reuters (UK)
4. Guardian (UK)
5. Washington Post (US)
6. US State Dept. website (US)
7. Economist (UK)
8. CNN (US)
9. Washington Post (US)
10. Economist (UK)
11. Palestinian Information Centre (Palestine)
12. Al-Qassam Brigades website (Palestine)
13. Sky News (UK)
14. Telegraph (UK)
15. New York Times (US)
16. Haaretz (Israel)
17. Business Insider (US)
18. Ma’an News Agency (Palestine)
19. Times of Israel (Israel)
20. TV7 Israel News (Israel)
21. Times of Israel (Israel)
22. Times of Israel (Israel)
23. MEMRI (US)
24. Al Jazeera (Qatar)
25. New York Times (US)
26. Reuters (UK)
27. Jewish Virtual Library a.k.a. American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise (AICE) (US)
28. Times of Israel (Israel)
29. Al Jazeera (Qatar)
30. Al Arabiya (KSA)
31. Bloomberg News (US)
32. Haaretz (Israel)
33. CBC (canada)
34. New York Times (US)
35. Times of Israel (Israel)
36. Reuters (UK)
Totals:
Zionist sources: 29
Non-Zionist sources: 7
You’ll also notice a bizarre bias in the type of publication:
Books: 0
Academic papers or articles: 0
Arabic-based news sites: 5
Anglo-sphere news sites: 18
Hebrew/Israeli news sites: 8
Zionist propaganda sites: 2
Governments involved in committing genocide in Palestine: 1
Resistance organisations: 2
So, we can all see how that works!

Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 1 2024 7:31 utc | 170

here we go again, another f*cking war under Biden & the Democrat knuckleheads in DC
I suppose they expect Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iraqi militias, the Houthis, and Iran to just sit and take it, eh?
All to support a barbaric apartheid state which everyone outside the Western powers truly hates, and whose days are now numbered….
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 1 2024 6:49 utc | 164
No problem. Honzo et al have a cool judo move that will work a treat for just this kind of situation.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 7:32 utc | 171

If Iran-backed Iran is attacked directly by the West’s obedient jew$lave$, Greater Israel will probably become known as Grated Israel…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2024 7:35 utc | 172

Iran, Russia. Soak up the impending strikes. Designed to provoke you. You are great enough and good enough to do this.
I declare this as an American soldier. I do not want to be your enemy. We should be your ally.
Recognize that the Jews own the United States Government lock stock and barrel.
But they do not own the American people. Much less the American soldier. The true soldiers. Soldiers of SOCOM.

Posted by: RLTW | Feb 1 2024 7:37 utc | 173

Pelham
@Resist_05
Israel has now backtracked on its original statement that 12 UNRWA employees were involved in the Oct 7 attack.
They now claim it was only 4 employees or 0.0003% of the UNRWA staff.
Literally nothing Israel claims has any truth attached… cutting funding is literally a death sentence for millions of Palestinians…🇮🇱🇵🇸
https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1752899870489550952

Posted by: Menz | Feb 1 2024 7:44 utc | 174

RLTW,
What’s the current mood among the US military enlisted and non-coms ?
Are there any murmurs of refusing to go on illegal deployments ? Any difference between the mood of Ready Reserve vs. Regulars ?
Another data point ; My cousin is a retired lifer (502 – battalion commander) absolutely refuses to say the least negative hint regarding the Pentagon or politics; but he and his wife both secured 2nd passports plus a ‘vacation home’ overseas a couple of years ago. Makes one think ….

Posted by: Exile | Feb 1 2024 7:49 utc | 175

“Is there a path forward to more productive global human cooperation? If someone says “yes and the answer is the US needs to pull out of every country that it’s in” then it’s going to be hard to believe some other empire wouldn’t just do the same thing, is the point.
Posted by: turd | Jan 31 2024 19:03 utc | 38″
What might work better is for the US to simply admit how many countries they are in and the fact that they have no intention of pulling out.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 1 2024 8:01 utc | 176

There was a lot more so stay tuned, something is cooking, and it does not bold well for the Palestinian people or their sovereignty.
Posted by: Ed | Feb 1 2024 0:34 utc | 110
I am thinking it may have also to do, apart from your points, with the legal responsibilities of being a state before the ICJ.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Feb 1 2024 8:15 utc | 177

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 6:49 utc | 163
Ansarallah claims both ships were hit. USS Gravely claims they missed. MV Koi (Kol?) is silent on the matter (probably too busy bleeding out).
Thank you sir

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 1 2024 8:25 utc | 178

turd | Feb 1 2024 6:46 utc | 161
The people have been dumbed down, but the mindset, the culture of the elite is unchanged.
“The culture in the US has changed drastically in the last 5-10 years.” as in child sex change, drag shows for children ect? Fentanyl…

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 1 2024 8:35 utc | 179

109 Organic. You have to start somewhere to end uniparty rule. It would be terrible mistake to vote for a Dem or repub pres considering all that’s happening, the genocide, etc. Vote Jill Stein, truly opposed to genocide. Americans must start there

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 8:53 utc | 180

So, we can all see how that works!
Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 1 2024 7:31 utc | 168
Excellent analysis there. If only that could be scaled out across the entire ‘net …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 8:58 utc | 181

Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 22:59 utc | 85
Cold morning here and the sea beneath is glittering like metal sheet and just on the right is a thousand years old city enclosed in the thick walls of stone.
Gives the perspective as I gaze upon it, upon the open sea.
Thank you for all carefully documented posts and for your intelligence…I appreciate and understand, I agree.It is nothing to do with religion, and many have sidetracked the discussion here with the bullshit, out of ignorance or just as they liked the sound of their voices.
If above resources were residing in the Buddhists territory it would be the same. Ghazans happen to be Muslims currently in the way of the hungry and maddened worldpart craving the resources. Pepe Escobar has simply called it ‘the pipelistan’ and he was right, everything is fight for the energy.Although, he is deceived with the story about the new multipolar ‘just’ world and sells it energetically.
For myself, I believed in it for a short while, until the genocide and until Lavrov opened his mouth, while
Putin remained like the sfynxs, condemning wrong things like terrorism in general, implying Hamas etc, you know it all. Huge disappointment, and finally I gave up on the ‘last hero’ image I had about Russia.
Simple: Do as you say, and say as you do. It does not fit anymore for me with Putin and similar speaking about new just world.They would be pinning for Europe still, if they were not snubbed.Forced to turn to East and embellishing it much.
This what is happening, while figures of the world who ‘have power’ could stop it and they do not, means that they are implicated directly or indifferent.Stopped by the greed.
Clue: oil for money which never actually stopped flowing from RF to EU, to Israel…This is why Russia shuts up.Money they need_
Thank you for all your posts, and actually Crook is not worth reading, but people in the west are very poor about the resources, they simply do not speak languages, this answers your question since a while. Why they do not read the Palestinian opinions, well, they can not. Like sheep stuck in the very small, small smelly barn.Comforting themselves thinking about their garden while they will be slaughtered.Our govts are desperate and they are already turning on their own citizens, while preparing to lunch another world war for the salvation. In wain, but the sky feels so ominous.
Cold morning here and the sea beneath is glittering like cold metal sheet and just on the right is a thousand years old city enclosed in the walls of stone.
Gives the perspective as I gaze upon it.
I can not cry anymore for the people of Gaza, but now have developed hard cold rage in my heart. Poetry does not suffice anymore.

Posted by: stranger | Feb 1 2024 9:02 utc | 182

Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2024 7:35 utc | 170
Greater Israel will probably become known as Grated Israel…
….Gutted israel?
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mjh | Feb 1 2024 4:10 utc | 143
As you say, APE chips (“Access Privacy Electronically”, <= RFID chips) do not have batteries. They do not NEED them as they are passive receptors. They CAN be consulted and read from a distance and used for locating individuals if the reader is powerful enough. This "distance viewing" was the whole problem with them, and is one of the principal reasons for their rejection. ie Police surveillance, and also anyone with a "reader" could find out such useful things as your Bank account etc. or any other information that they contained or linked to. The idea was to create an "individual" code per person, with links to all Government held personal information (Health, status, Intelligence agency assesments, Tax returns). Remnants can still be seen in the efforts to create an "individual" Id on media services by Microsoft et al.
***
About your other good points and the changes in the world’s systems, maybe you could add one or two about Schwab, Soros and the “reset” that we have not heard about recently. Parts of which screw farmers, food supplies and the EUUKUS, or the Nation states v. Brussels, or African States v exploitation of their resources via “climate”.
I am not going to try and summarize all that, but it could be included in the generalized systemic destruction of commonly held attitudes (Law or Rule?). ie. As now shown by the countries defunding UNWRA and the genocide being carried out. They are also linked by the willingness of certain countries to supply weapons and money for a “war” that does not concern them in Ukraine, and an equal support for an Israeli killing machine (Money and arms), where they should know better.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2024 9:26 utc | 183

Turd @ all the above.
My simple answer to you….
The presant and past war for profit of the US is a failed buseness stratagy, for america and americans. Its possably sucssesful, for a small minority of elite and the food chain that feeds off of them. But for all the american people the country and the rest of the world its a failed buseness modle, an abomination, aborant to all normal sane humans. The world sees that.
Basicly the US is moraly bankrupt.
Russia, China, Iran know that FAIR trade is better for all.
hope that helps you, call it evolution.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 1 2024 9:27 utc | 184

See Mahmood_OD’s utube of Jan. 31 “WHAT?! Netanyahu DECLARES VICTORY! | Israeli Gov: “PREPARE FOR BLACKOUT” | AQB ROAST Merkavas!” He says Netanyahoo about to dump the far right, make the prisoner-exchange, ceasefire deal with Hamas (earlier-mentioned in previous thread) which would cause the far right to leave the gov’t. Then Netanyahoo can shed the right and appoint Justice Minister Yariv Lavin, take a different direction and save his political rearend.

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 9:31 utc | 185

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 9:31 utc | 183
What choice does Netanyahu have? All he has left are the psychopaths like Augusto Pee and the nutcase who unabashedly calls himself genocidal.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 1 2024 9:40 utc | 186

Posted by: Trumpeter | Feb 1 2024 2:31 utc | 126
I understand your logic.
1. They already make huge contributions.
KSA alone has put $6 billion into Gaza since the siege of Gaza began 17 years ago . That’s not including Qatar, UAE, etc. Just since October, the GGC are the ones who have been sending thousands of aid trucks into Gaza but Israel does not let it in. Arabs are already paying for one last meal for Palestinians before the bombs supplied by the Axis of Genocide kill Palestinians. .
Immediately after Oct 7, all the GCC countries started up collections for private citizens to donate to add to government contributions. Compare to the UK where people who donated to UNRWA had their bank accounts blocked.
The viewpoint of the Arabs is: why should we keep paying for everything that Israel keeps destroying?
Here’s my problem:
If Arabs are to provide aid, they need to be allowed to distribute it, to control it. Israel needs to get the FUCK out of Gaza and stop blocking trucks. They are taking the damn anaesthetics and painkillers out of the medical aid. Max Blumenthal reported it.
You can’t have it both ways.
If Israel wants to control the aid, they need to PAY FOR IT. If they want to have UNRWA shut down, they need to cough up and PAY for everything. They should be paying for everything anyway.
Most USAID projects to Palestine instead go to encourage Palestinians to betray the resistance, to make partnerships with Israel etc.
Axis of Genocide is providing bombs, arms and now blocking aid. And instead people ask Arabs to step in. This is so wrong in principle.

Posted by: pq | Feb 1 2024 9:47 utc | 187

US President Joe Biden is homing in on a new doctrine involving an unprecedented push to immediately advance the creation of a demilitarised but viable Palestinian state, The New York Times’ Thomas Friedman says.

The plan, Friedman writes, “would involve some form of US recognition of a demilitarised Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that would come into being only once Palestinians had developed a set of defined, credible institutions and security capabilities to ensure that this state was viable and that it could never threaten Israel,” Friedman said.
“If the administration can pull this together — a huge if — a Biden Doctrine could become the biggest strategic realignment in the region since the 1979 Camp David treaty,” Friedman added.

More BS jam tomorrow crap that leaves them isolated, defenseless and at the whim of the violent nazi psychos next door.

Posted by: Vortex | Feb 1 2024 9:48 utc | 188

183 Lavieja. Point is, it may be a gain for the Palestinians, imo, depending on what Hamas can get from Israel (if anything without too much risk) in the deal being negotiated currently.

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 9:49 utc | 189

Yeah Right @ all the above.
S’funny how when aprehended the violent criminals suddenly turn into the most violence hating induviduels in the room.
Around about the momment they realize there will be consequensis to their violent actions.
If americanes cant do the time they should’nt do the crime. Lap it up snow flake.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 1 2024 9:56 utc | 190

So today the sorry tale of genocide continues . Settlers attack truck drivers to prevent aid trucks at the only israeli crossing that is allowed . Israel’s Finance Minister, Bezalel Smotrich, says allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza goes against the goals of the Israeli war.
“I spoke to Netanyahu in this regard and this is going to change soon.”
How can Israel stand down its IJC obligations and not have consequences. Like everyone in the world we are appalled

Posted by: Hankster | Feb 1 2024 10:07 utc | 191

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2024 23:42 utc | 99
Ethnocentric supremacy is the driver of the Axis of Genocide. Thinking you, your thoughts, your knowledge is superior and you get to control who lives or dies “over there, faraway”. Is it the new norm to tell people to leave the bar because
1) I object to advocating for destabilization (resulting in death / destruction) in faraway places that are not responsible for Israel’s actions– while sitting on your couch in the Axis of Genocide.
2. I object to racist and bigoted statements in general, but especially hoping for the bombing of civilian centres because they don’t like the people over there or are so ignorant they believe “not much population” over there.
I have seen any number of racist comments against various groups. Should I forget Bungling Archer’s racist statements on Indians which I remember because they were so numerous? I think Hindutva is a dangerous ideology but there’s a way to write about it without resorting to racial slurs. Others insult indigenous peoples or blacks.
If you claim to be pro justice for Palestine but simultaneously advocate for destabilizing the Arab / Muslim world and / or constantly come out with bigoted statements about other ethnicities and Islam especially, what is the exact difference between you and the Genocide Joes of this world?
Economies on the Axis of Genocide are falling apart from 32 years of bombing Arabs / Muslims. A lot of people in the bar are upset about refugees and immigrants particularly non-white ones.
If you buy into Islamophobia and advocate for destabilization of Arab / Muslim countries you are feeding into the War of Terror narratives of the Axis of Genocide, which will mean more war, more refugees and more distress for your economy.
The farmers in Europe could protest saying: stop war, stop genocide, spend money at home and lower our taxes. But no. They don’t see the big picture. I support the farmer’s concerns. Without farmers nobody eats. But they are not addressing the root cause.
AnsarAllah has resisted without killing anyone. But at least 10 Yemenis have been killed. Israel can humiliate Palestinians because it has become normal to humiliate Arabs and Muslims and give insincere apologies 20 years later.
“The destabilisation of Jordan works to the benefit of the Palestinian Resistance” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 3:37 utc | 138
“The proxies will fall hard and fast . The emirates, Saudis…. Might as well enjoy the fireworks. Eh?” Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 29 2024 13:47 utc | 18
“Six months out of the year all those spiffy new cities are unlivable without AC, all Iran would have to do is knock out the energy plants to have a devastating region wide impact. Other than KSA not much population in the gulf countries, doubt there’s that much to take out. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 29 2024 17:52 utc | 96
I find these comments so troubling I wonder if I should ever return to this forum. The good contributions get lost. It’s good that people are not censored, but here we see a good cross section of society in the Axis of Genocide at large and you can understand why the Axis of Genocide chugs on even as it crumbles from within.

Posted by: pq | Feb 1 2024 10:11 utc | 192

Posted by: pq | Feb 1 2024 10:11 utc | 189
Careful, you’re losing your marbles like old SCCC, RSH and others who shone brightly for a while then flamed out in a blaze of self importance and distorted egoism.
I expect any minute now you’ll start raving about how everyone around here is stupid and doesn’t get it like you do.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 10:17 utc | 193

It is time to create not a notion , but a fact , that the Zionist is a inseparable delusion , and , caryatid of the lust of Fascism . Period ! Inseparable, lock step , binary , molten in the disregard of society . This is not a war against the ‘collective ‘ , although Likud sacrifices even a ‘fellow Jew , that doesn’t swallow the narrative ! Trolls – idiots fools …. unite ! Next time a psychopath decides to shoot up a school , can someone direct ‘them ‘ to instead make a real statement . And kill those that really made this happen ! If it is ok to shoot / kill people in the sanctuary of a hospital , well that all ‘rules off , isn’t it ‘ . Time for aggrieved persons to take ‘Humanity back ‘ ! Time to act as Individuals ! Tell them what will really happen in the END GAME , being played ! Revolution time ! They won’t let you start the big war … because , THEY STOPPED BELIEVING YOU ! Peace or a life waiting for REVENGE ! Ei Mani ! Min to Eipno fas !

Posted by: Paleologos | Feb 1 2024 10:27 utc | 194

184 Jonathan. Similarly to Us Biden pushing the Ukraine war for domestic political reasons of covering up for his and Dems collosal corruption and manipulation of Ukraine govt. Nutyahoo has pushed the genocide on the Palestinians to save himself from imprisonment in Israel. So he teams up with the lunatic serial murdering far right. But because of the Palestinian Resistance, the situation begins to turn against him, so he shape changes and goes with the Justice movement he earlier on kicked out of power and discards all his former goals (destroying Hamas, taking over Gaza etc., no negotiating with Hamas and seeks now for negotiation (from weakness). So let’s see what he’s willing to give. The far right has said they’ll leave the govt. If the deal in the works goes through, so Net.can ditch them and bring on the govt. faction he opposed earlier which will be supported because the war on Gaza not going well as planned and the successes Net. advertised not happening. And all this, imo, getting better for Free Palestine.

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 10:28 utc | 195

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 10:17 utc | 190
I said there are many good contributions but they get lost in drivel of which many of your comments are a prime example.
At the same time I have complimented you on some of your comments which I found to be excellent.
I wonder why you cheapen your innate ability with racial slurs.
Instead of predicting my words perhaps you should focus on more carefully curating your own?

Posted by: pq | Feb 1 2024 10:31 utc | 196

Posted by: stranger | Feb 1 2024 9:02 utc | 180
Thank you kind stranger. Nice to be able to look at the sea. I too had a lot of hope in Putin and Lavrov. I had to reevaluate my opinion with the recent statements after Putin announced he would run for election. Countries must put self-interest first. I understand Putin’s desire to ally with Europe. Is it possible to be friendly with someone who does not view you as an equal? My British friends view Russians as inferior.
I scan Crook once in a while to understand Empire’s plan. I believe he is trying to convince the “alternative” non-MSM audience that moves by Muslims should be viewed as a threat to “us”.
In Italy it seems that pressure from Israel led to all pro-Palestinian protests being cancelled on Jan 27. Official organizers cancelled the protest so as not to get into trouble with intelligence agencies. Some people went ahead anyway. Police pushed and shoved them around. Thesevideos were then on global media as “Muslim mob attacks Holocaust victims” or something similar. Everything is misinterpreted. It’s depressing.
Here is a very brave young man who inspires me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSiGbzD4yo
Motaz Azaiza is a 25 year old who with only his camera and courage singlehandedly woke up tens of millions in the Axis of Genocide with his raw photos. He helped with rescues. He didn’t even film the most horrifying things. With 20 million followers and fame (GQ Man of the Year etc.) came the death threats from Israel. He never went home fearing his family would be bombed. He was evacuated a week ago, the first time in his life he left the 45 sq km prison.
He was almost killed himself, his family, friends were killed. The friend who took the most famous GQ photo of his, Fouad Abu Khamash, was a volunteer with the Red Crescent who was killed in an Israeli strike.
His dream before the war was to get a new camera. Now that he’s safe while his family, friends and land are not, he doesn’t know how to dream. I hope justice comes soon and Palestinians will live their dreams again.

Posted by: pq | Feb 1 2024 10:46 utc | 197

181 Sonebird. Re. The farmers (Dutch and currently French out in force), Is it not true that US food corporations like subsidised Cargill have bought up the fertile land in Ukraine and are dominating the European market with their grains bankrupting the not so well govt – protected farmers. This was part of the reason the US wanted the Ukraine war in the same vein as their destruction of Nordstream pipeline clearing the way for US liquid gas to take over the European market.

Posted by: Lavieja | Feb 1 2024 10:46 utc | 198

pq | Feb 1 2024 10:11 utc | 189
“Jordan…emirates, Saudis….”
I always read the street in those countries supports the Palestinians and not their own corrupted governments. That’s the reason Jordan’s government is lying about the location of the attack. So who are you white-knighting for when you say those governments shouldn’t face destabilization if they keep fence-sitting?

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 1 2024 10:53 utc | 199

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2024 10:17 utc | 190
I will be short as I have to do things now.
I noticed your posts as I could not evade them, you really have time to flood this bar with them anytime everywhere, I try to scroll past them mostly now as they are irritating and clogging up the space. Rarely some substance in your posting.
As, if this was a RLife bar, I would get up from my corner where I am quietly sitting and getting irritated by your noise more and more and ‘wallahi’ you would suffer some damage (sorry b., will not do this again).
I also noticed your self satisfied attitude, albeit the lack of knowledge, especially about West Asia.I was kind enough to recommend some reading, I doubt you will have time for it.
In short, you are full of yourself and there is something very irritating in your attitude of recommending the others who btw have something substantial to say to cool down.
@pq
I come here for the knowledge and reason, you have it…
What some others who do not posses it think about you and bait you is not really important. Go on…Thank you.
NB Sorry b., I usually sit quietly in the corner and enjoy the clever talk, but sometimes it is too much…

Posted by: stranger | Feb 1 2024 10:54 utc | 200