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January 31, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-036
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 15:59 utc | 1 Instead of criticizing a government credibly accused of genocide, a leading Democrat applies a debunked partisan smear to pro-Palestine protesters and wants the F.B.I. to investigate them, writes Elizabeth Vos. Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 16:13 utc | 2 Whenever I’m in the mood for cheap shits and giggles I take a look at Daily Kos, which enforces Dim Party policy among its participants with a rigor that most dictators only dream of. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2024 16:46 utc | 3 “More than 30 bodies, executed at point blank range with their hands tied to the back, have been discovered inside a school yard in Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza.” “Israel” is proceeding with its ‘courageous’ scheme to flood Gaza’s tunnel network with seawater. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 31 2024 16:57 utc | 5 Seems Biden has backed off striking whatever he was going to strike, wonder what did it? Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 31 2024 17:01 utc | 6 Sounds reminiscent of history, that horror of mass graves, Stonebird at post 4. Nightmares that never left us, allowed to fester and erupt over and over again. At least the West is unmasked as being a wholly bad faith actor, not worthy to listen to its pieties. Anyone who still believes them is choosing to do so in defiance of reality, and unlikely worth the time to educate. Posted by: titmouse | Jan 31 2024 17:03 utc | 7 https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-confirms-flooding-hamas-tunnels-in-gaza-with-seawater/ Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 31 2024 17:05 utc | 8 Pi, they are only flooding because Germany wouldn’t send them ZyklonB. Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 17:10 utc | 9 https://www.rt.com/news/591609-israel-flood-hamas-tunnels/ Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 31 2024 17:13 utc | 10 https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/4904 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 17:15 utc | 11 The ‘Democratic’ party showing its true colours? Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 31 2024 17:24 utc | 12 Suspend your belief system. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 31 2024 17:31 utc | 13 Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 31 2024 17:05 utc | 8 state.gov | Lemki Report, 30 Jan A/V, transcript
Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 31 2024 17:36 utc | 15 It sounds exactly like what Hamas would do. Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 31 2024 17:37 utc | 16 Lebanese TV reports: Posted by: Exile | Jan 31 2024 17:47 utc | 17 Well, the—do those operations include going into hospitals and murdering people in their beds regardless of whether they’re— Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 31 2024 17:47 utc | 18 Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 31 2024 17:05 utc | 8 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 31 2024 17:53 utc | 19 Helmer’s latest speculates the Americans do not actually know how the Tower 22 blast was facilitated, amidst concerns the air defense systems may have been compromised, possibly by EW capabilities. Posted by: jayc | Jan 31 2024 17:57 utc | 21 Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 31 2024 17:36 utc | 15 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 31 2024 18:00 utc | 22 Posted by: canuck | Jan 31 2024 17:32 utc | 14 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 31 2024 18:02 utc | 23 Comment – not added to tally of 156 Merkavas knocked out claimed since 2.Oct. This strikes me more as a damaged MBT only. Posted by: NoName | Jan 31 2024 18:05 utc | 24 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 31 2024 17:24 utc | 12 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 18:06 utc | 25 Was without the internet link for a while. Posted by: stranger | Jan 31 2024 18:10 utc | 26 @ sln2002 | Jan 31 2024 17:36 utc | 15 Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2024 18:10 utc | 27 @21 “And quiet in Yemen too it appears.” Posted by: golddigger | Jan 31 2024 18:29 utc | 28 Pi, they are only flooding because Germany wouldn’t send them ZyklonB. Posted by: MAKK | Jan 31 2024 18:42 utc | 29 It is not banality, as your own language has gotten high jacked. The horror is widely exposed and we can see it all, all of us in the remaining part of the world, 83%. of us.We against you. Posted by: stranger | Jan 31 2024 18:42 utc | 30 Need we dance to the same song of a familiar troll? Are none of you tired yet? A bit light mockery and let it fade like the non-entity it is. … Unless you are compiling their genocidal intent infractions for their Israeli book report to the ICJ at the end of this coming month. I mean, it’d be doing them a solid saving a few nights’ sleep before they become judicially hunted globally ever after. Posted by: titmouse | Jan 31 2024 18:44 utc | 31 And quiet in Yemen too it appears. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 31 2024 18:50 utc | 32 On the previous Palestine thread I think someone posted a comment with a link to a release from Hamas stating the goals of the Oct. 7 action. Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 18:55 utc | 33 It’s been 3 days now and so far no US retaliation for the 3 dead soldiers. Posted by: Rubiconned | Jan 31 2024 18:55 utc | 34 ” I feel sorry for the poor sap that compensates you for your obtuse nonsense.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 31 2024 18:57 utc | 35 My problem with Augusto Pi is not with his views, to which he is entitled. It’s with his unwillingness or inability to argue the case for them. He comes off sounding like a NAFO teenager yelling ‘go team’, while a true Israeli apologist would commit a serious attempt to refute the arguments of others here. That might be useful, if only to sharpen and strengthen one’s own position by sparring with him. But you can’t spar with that kind of twitter-esque nyah-nyah-ism. Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 31 2024 18:59 utc | 36 Rubiconned | Jan 31 2024 18:55 utc | 34 There are many groups of people who are on different levels in a tiger by the tail scenario where there is a history of basically anyone in power abusing the people they have power over. So complaining that the people in power are evil is all well and good but isn’t the next step to ask, OK, is what is going to replace that power any better? In general whoever is in power is going to abuse their power unless humans come up with a new form of global cooperation, right? If the west stopped doing their power projection all over the place, wouldn’t Russia or China or someone else just do basically the same thing? So yeah it’s bad that the US does it, but can you really expect them not to? Posted by: turd | Jan 31 2024 19:03 utc | 38 On the previous Palestine thread I think someone posted a comment with a link to a release from Hamas stating the goals of the Oct. 7 action. Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 19:09 utc | 39 Talk of sending American troops to help the IDF in Gaza: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 31 2024 19:22 utc | 40 in reply to Golddigger at #28 Posted by: crone | Jan 31 2024 19:23 utc | 41 Re: Merkavas Posted by: Exile | Jan 31 2024 19:27 utc | 42 Posted by: turd | Jan 31 2024 19:03 utc | 38 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 19:27 utc | 43 And quiet in Yemen too it appears. Posted by: NoName | Jan 31 2024 19:28 utc | 44 It’s tragic the Likud sends these fighters to their deaths. Posted by: too scents | Jan 31 2024 19:30 utc | 45 Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 18:55 utc | 33 Posted by: JB | Jan 31 2024 19:31 utc | 46 So IDF raided a West Bank hospital and killed patients and staff, and folks are surprised by this action? Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 31 2024 19:46 utc | 47 Arch Bungle, Posted by: Lysias | Jan 31 2024 20:05 utc | 48 @ Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 31 2024 19:01 utc | 37 Posted by: Rubiconned | Jan 31 2024 20:06 utc | 49 Posted by: canuck | Jan 31 2024 17:32 utc | 14 And, if so, the pledge by the Iraqi militia to effectively stand down may indicate the US armed forces, at least, were presented with a demonstration of capability followed by de-escalation measures. So far no reckless revenge bombings. And quiet in Yemen too it appears. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 31 2024 20:08 utc | 51 “The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That’s the only difference.” Yikes! Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 31 2024 20:19 utc | 53 @ hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 18:06 utc | 25 Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2024 20:23 utc | 54 Massive Indonesian Pro-Palestine Demo in Jakarta as 20 second video reveals. People all over the world liberated themselves with resistance and blood. Palestinians will be able to do so, and Israel is definitely losing in every possible way. Posted by: Animal | Jan 31 2024 20:35 utc | 56 Posted by: canuck | Jan 31 2024 20:11 utc | 52 Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 31 2024 20:38 utc | 57 Here you are Jane: Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 20:47 utc | 58 American army prof being grilled by a very sharp interviwer. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 31 2024 20:52 utc | 59 Blast from the past. Mark Ames (an American Jew) was targeted by the ADL in the 90s, as was pretty much anyone protesting South African apartheid in the 80s or “speaking out against Israel” in an illegal joint Israeli-ADL spying operation conducted in the United States. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 31 2024 20:52 utc | 60 I hope the Hamas bastards in the tunnels being flooded are good at holding their breath… Posted by: kupkee | Jan 31 2024 20:55 utc | 61 Oz PM ElbowKneezie is telling Oz that he has declined “Israel’s” request to send more weapons. Unfortunately, Oz.gov is just as jewed-up as the Rest Of The West so anything he says about “Israel” could be bs. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 31 2024 20:55 utc | 62
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/98411 Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 31 2024 20:57 utc | 63 Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 31 2024 17:05 utc | 8 Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 21:15 utc | 64 Further to my @ 59 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 31 2024 21:24 utc | 65 > It’s tragic the Likud sends these fighters to their deaths. Posted by: Abe | Jan 31 2024 21:27 utc | 66 to videos Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 31 2024 17:53 utc | 19: Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 31 2024 21:27 utc | 67 Great article on history of UNRWA, which aids Palestinian refugees worldwide, and why this aid group was set up by Israel to help the Palestinian community separately from the UN’s main refugee agency, the UNHCR. The article also explains why Israel is trying to disband it now. Posted by: teri | Jan 31 2024 21:33 utc | 68 Wondering why I haven’t seen mention of Palestinian resistance using FPV or other drones, which I would have thought suitable tech, obtainable and very effective in the current conflict. Posted by: Third Chimp | Jan 31 2024 21:47 utc | 69 Many of us (here especially) have known this is what the dems are since 1992, at least. The clinton regime was the catalyst for the melding of the 2 parties into one seamless oligarchy/zionist monster. Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 21:49 utc | 70
Ahh..uhmmm…er… agree. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 31 2024 21:50 utc | 71 Incident I haven’t seen mentioned yet – IDF embedding GPS chips in the hands of its soldiers. Hamas found them in the first batch of IDF soldiers they captured, removed the chips and put all the chips in one building to set up an ambush for the IDF who would, of course, track the chips and come to rescue their troops. Posted by: teri | Jan 31 2024 21:52 utc | 72 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 31 2024 20:52 utc | 60 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 31 2024 21:52 utc | 73 Here you are Jane: Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 22:02 utc | 74 Posted by: teri | Jan 31 2024 21:52 utc | 72 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 31 2024 22:05 utc | 75 I’m quite frankly astonished that Nastyyahoo hasn’t been assassinated by a hostage’s or soldier’s family member. Does any other country have an equivalent to that sadistic Hannibal directive? Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2024 22:17 utc | 76 If you were the governor of a new colony on a new planet, charged with setting up the best possible society, would you make sure you allowed everybody to pursue unlimited fortunes and the devil take the hindmost? Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 22:19 utc | 77 Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 31 2024 20:38 utc | 57 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 22:24 utc | 78 But it does contain a sentence that I don’t understand concerning the fact that Qatar is now helping to fund Hamas, “in coordination with Israel”. What in the world does that mean? Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 31 2024 22:27 utc | 79 Posted by: teri | Jan 31 2024 21:52 utc | 72 Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jan 31 2024 22:50 utc | 80 https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/01/penn-palestine-protest-college-hall Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 31 2024 22:51 utc | 81 But it does contain a sentence that I don’t understand concerning the fact that Qatar is now helping to fund Hamas, “in coordination with Israel”. What in the world does that mean? Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 22:53 utc | 82 Unexpected de-escalation? Yves says “holy moly.”
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 31 2024 22:55 utc | 83 Gee, DuchessAndBob, you lost me at “unlimited fortunes.” Such thinking is why we have such disparity today on planet earth. Fortunes must be controlled or very quickly a few will control most of the wealth and the goverments as well. Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 31 2024 22:57 utc | 84 Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 31 2024 20:26 utc | 55 Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 22:59 utc | 85 All the time Netanyahu had no intention of having any brook with either “solution.” But I don’t think Israel has been financing Hamas for a very long time, or at least not since 2017, when the new leader of Hamus moved closer to Iran. But I could be wrong. Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:04 utc | 86 Ok Unpopular Opinion time: Who else thinks that Putin should announce that the USSR made a mistake in signing UN Resolution 181 and that it should be reversed in order to help achieve justice and eventual peace in the region. Posted by: liveload | Jan 31 2024 23:10 utc | 87 Here’s a longer piece on the cowardly and debased Israeli special forces attack inside a hospital. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 31 2024 23:12 utc | 88 Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 22:59 utc | 85 Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:12 utc | 89 And keep in mind, that hospital “raid” conducted in disguise, happened in the WEST BANK, NOT Gaza. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 31 2024 23:13 utc | 90 RE: A. Pi Posted by: skull ☠️ | Jan 31 2024 23:14 utc | 91 Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:12 utc | 89 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 31 2024 23:16 utc | 92 @ Paul from Norway | Jan 31 2024 22:50 utc | 80
https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-fails-to-destroy-hamas-tunnels-report Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 31 2024 23:18 utc | 93 Ok Unpopular Opinion time: Who else thinks that Putin should announce that the USSR made a mistake in signing UN Resolution 181 and that it should be reversed in order to help achieve justice and eventual peace in the region. Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:24 utc | 94 ps: Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 23:25 utc | 95 Posted by: liveload | Jan 31 2024 23:10 utc | 87 Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 23:27 utc | 96 Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:24 utc | 94 Posted by: liveload | Jan 31 2024 23:37 utc | 97 Posted by: Ed | Jan 31 2024 23:12 utc | 89 Posted by: pq | Jan 31 2024 23:42 utc | 98 “I know MoA is full of bloodthirsty armchair warriors, the Groanin Dunces and Bungling Archers of this world shouting for regime change faraway. They want to watch the fireworks as the gleaming towers of the Gulf burn. It will “help Palestine” they claim. How dare Desert Bedouins not know their place! But ffs don’t touch the gleaming skyscrapers of NYC, Frankfurt and London and collapse our lifestyles. We want to be comfortable here while we cheer on death and destruction in places we are envious of or hate. We’re not Lindsey Graham nutjobs or Genocide Joe. We’re pro Palestine so BOMB THE OTHER ARABS they say. That’s so not colonial.Deciding whom to bomb and whom to let live.” Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2024 23:42 utc | 99 And quiet in Yemen too it appears.
I doubt it’s true, but I mention it in any case. Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 31 2024 23:46 utc | 100 |
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