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January 28, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-033
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: turd | Jan 29 2024 1:30 utc | 99 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 1:40 utc | 101 Good point. Makes me feel dull-witted for not thinking of it first. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 1:41 utc | 102 Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 0:03 utc | 90 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 1:44 utc | 103 Those US troops at Al Tanf are there to act as a sacrificial lamb, so the neo con’s can justify a much wider ME war, and aid Israel directly by bombing Iran (Israel does not have the long range capacity to hit the Iranian targets they desire). Both Syria and Iraq have demanded that all US bases be closed and evacuated, in fact DJT ordered all such bases closed, and then his order was ignored by General Mark Milley and SDOD Esper, two died in the wool neo con deep state operatives. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 29 2024 1:45 utc | 104 Acco Hengst | Jan 29 2024 1:28 utc | 98 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 1:51 utc | 105 “I teach Classics and students fail it frequently…” Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 1:56 utc | 106 I had several non-engineering professors in college that I still remember and appreciate for helping me open my mind to things and ways of thought. Would never have read the book “Atlas Shrugged” if some wannabe libertarian right wing literature prof didn’t put it on the syllabus. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 1:56 utc | 107 Wouldn’t an attack on Iran shut down the Persian Gulf? Or at least hinder oil supplies? Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jan 29 2024 1:58 utc | 108 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 1:44 utc | 103 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:01 utc | 109 Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 1:56 utc | 106 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 2:01 utc | 110 Those texted words are/were perfectly composed. My heart was seriously impacted. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 2:03 utc | 111 Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 1:56 utc | 106 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:05 utc | 112 Attacking Iran is no cakewalk, they have a beefed up ADS, with multiple coverages of all vital facilities with S300 and S400 systems Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 2:07 utc | 113 Can we get back to discussing the ongoing genocide, resistance efforts, and potential start to a major war in the Middle East? Posted by: mtw | Jan 29 2024 2:10 utc | 114 Posted by: mtw | Jan 29 2024 2:10 utc | 114 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 2:13 utc | 115 Tom_Q_Collins @107 Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 2:15 utc | 116 but actually getting college credits for it? I dunno… Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 2:22 utc | 117 William can it Posted by: Susan | Jan 29 2024 2:23 utc | 118 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 28 2024 17:36 utc | 20 Posted by: Alchemist | Jan 29 2024 2:27 utc | 119 Tom_Q_Collins@100….nah, they’re just pissin’ up wind….do mind where you step. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 29 2024 2:28 utc | 120 Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:01 utc | 109 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 2:29 utc | 121 William Gruff 96 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 2:31 utc | 122 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 2:31 utc | 122 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:37 utc | 123 Jane | Jan 29 2024 2:31 utc | 122 “Can we agree that education in the modern world involves the use and examination of language so that it is a tool of critical thinking?” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 2:38 utc | 124 I accidentally posted before in the wrong thread . There’s been reporting that an Australian flagged ship carrying 2 million litres of diesel was captured by Iran last few hours Posted by: Hankster | Jan 29 2024 2:39 utc | 125 True. I will avoid get cranky will bad spelling too. Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:40 utc | 126 Tom @ 110 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 2:40 utc | 127 @ Alchemist | Jan 29 2024 2:27 utc | 119 with the request for contact about QEEG Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 29 2024 2:41 utc | 128 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 2:40 utc | 127 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 2:42 utc | 129 2024 is a year that has a serious nuclear prescient. Those who spent time studying and transliterating the ancient clay tablet records, which were buried under sand in Mesopotamia for approximately 4000 years, have detailed the destruction of five cities including Sodom and Gomorrah. An instant obliteration. Nuclear residue (U237) has been identified in the region and all pottery remains turned to glass from the heat. A “pillar of salt” is transliterated to a pillar of vapour as salt was recovered by vapourizing the water. This has been clearly date constructed through all historical manuscripts to a specific date, 2024 BC. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 2:59 utc | 130 Where’s robinthehood by the way? I’d have assumed at the mention of Iran he’d be all over this forum like a fat kid on a cupcake … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 3:07 utc | 131 ten years and I rarely missed reading a thread. Posted by: ld | Jan 29 2024 3:08 utc | 132 Language is communication. Critical thinking is altogether another arena. Each can exist without the other. Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 3:10 utc | 133 130 merv a meteorite can explain the same scenario. Even the background radiation. One of the mysteries of magic , is that it only works if you believe it, one form being witch doctor magic where they say your gods must be more powerful to negate mine, or card tricks where one only has to look to see the switch. Posted by: Hankster | Jan 29 2024 3:14 utc | 134 P.S. Some people are just smarter than others. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 3:17 utc | 135 Hankster, yes, when cognitive dissonance rules with greater authority than 4000 year old records written on stone, of course one can come up with magical fantasies such as a meteor without evidence. I wonder if we can discuss intelligence and knowledge rather than grammar. Perhaps not. I love the bar as 1d states, and I know this is a bit of a diversionary thought bubble, yet if one considers 4000 yr old records as facts to debate the cause of today’s events, one might see I’m right on topic. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 3:26 utc | 136 Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 3:26 utc | 136 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 3:34 utc | 137 A thought: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 3:37 utc | 138 Peter AU1, you’re better than that. Insults like these are commonplace on Facebook. I accept understanding these issues are difficult. Rather than insulting maybe do some research like reading up in the Enuma Elish, and extensive deciphered clay tablet record. There are tens of thousands. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 3:44 utc | 139 People didn’t used to go to “journalism school” to become journalists. Posted by: Honzo | Jan 29 2024 3:52 utc | 140 Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 3:44 utc | 139 “Peter AU1, you’re better than that.”
What to say… Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 3:56 utc | 141 @ ld | Jan 29 2024 3:08 utc | 132 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 3:58 utc | 142 this place isn’t far away.. i figured they would have hit this place……….. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:00 utc | 143 At Tanf ISIS training and supply center. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 4:07 utc | 144 Israeli military and intelligence officials have concluded that a significant number of weapons used by Hamas in the Oct. 7 attacks and in the war in Gaza came from an unlikely source: the Israeli military. (New York Times) Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 29 2024 4:12 utc | 145 @ Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 4:07 utc | 144 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:16 utc | 146 name – map.. about the conclusion… some of those who the hannibal doctrine put into practice with israelis killing israelis.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:17 utc | 147 Peter AU1 “wow, his grammar and punctuation was pretty good actually!” Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 4:17 utc | 148 who – were…. geez, i need to look at what i write before i post.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:18 utc | 149 @ merv – just wait til that loser con gets in power…………. canucks are tired of trudeau and will definitely vote this loser in.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:19 utc | 150 here is simplicius talking about it.. with map inside.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:22 utc | 151 simplicius – exactly.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:24 utc | 152 James, yes, what a piece of work. Claims he isn’t a WEF member yet we have the documents. These “leaders” are in their respective positions due to the ability to control their mouth, through threats or even better, ego. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 4:26 utc | 153 Posted by: ld | Jan 29 2024 3:08 utc | 132 Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 4:34 utc | 154 Thanks so much thecelticwithinme at 15 for the link to the Consortium News discussion of the Court (my son says there are a host of coyotes outside tonight – haven’t heard them in a while) I will save that to follow in the morning. Posted by: juliania | Jan 29 2024 4:35 utc | 155 Israeli military and intelligence officials have concluded that a significant number of weapons used by Hamas in the Oct. 7 attacks and in the war in Gaza came from an unlikely source: the Israeli military. (New York Times) Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 4:39 utc | 156 Garbage now Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 4:41 utc | 157 @ Merv Ritchie | Jan 29 2024 4:26 utc | 153 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 4:45 utc | 158 The destabilisation of Jordan works to the benefit of the Palestinian Resistance as it will disrupt the matrix of control held by the Western Satrapy run by King Abdullah over the majority Palestinian population of that regime. Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 5:11 utc | 159
Posted by: suzan | Jan 29 2024 5:15 utc | 160 Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 2:15 utc | 116 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 5:17 utc | 161 @ Patroklos | Jan 29 2024 1:40 utc | 101 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 5:30 utc | 162 @ William Gruff | Jan 29 2024 1:14 utc | 96 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2024 5:33 utc | 163 ….. Israeli military and intelligence officials have concluded that a significant number of weapons used by Hamas in the war in Gaza came from an unlikely source: the Israeli military. (New York Times) Posted by: Exile | Jan 29 2024 5:38 utc | 164 What Pepe Escobar ‘s cynicism overlooks is that what’s good for the goose is also good for the gander . If there were no Palestinians now , there would be no restraint on khinzaling Israel. The Amelek- killers find the modern world of international law annoying, but the law takes no notice of what criminals like or don’t like. Posted by: Giyane | Jan 29 2024 5:39 utc | 165 Posted by: Exile | Jan 29 2024 5:38 utc | 164 Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 29 2024 6:01 utc | 167 Exile 164 Posted by: Giyane | Jan 29 2024 6:04 utc | 168 Whoa. I was looking for the MOA bar and accidentally wandered into a royal divorsion goan on in The Molotov Cocktail Lounge! Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 29 2024 6:10 utc | 169 The madman has armed the goldfish because his projected rage can no.longer tolerate the goldfish’s diffidence. Posted by: Giyane | Jan 29 2024 6:15 utc | 170 She identified herself as Palestinian. She sounded and looked like a very effective advocate for Palestinians. I was impressed. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 6:32 utc | 171 /cheep cheep Posted by: titmouse | Jan 29 2024 6:43 utc | 172 Posted by: Jane | Jan 29 2024 5:17 utc | 161 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 29 2024 6:50 utc | 173 Here from Middle East Eye (“Live: Tensions flare as U.S. troops attacked near Jordan-Syria border”) is today’s result on negotiation for a possible Hamas/Israel temporary ceasefire-prisoner-exchange deal: Karlof1 61. Business as usual for China. They can trade with the ROW, but that’s all they do. China doesn’t seem to have any other goal at this point in time. Do any flies or fleas have predictions as to how the Western forces will respond to the Al Tanf outrage? Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 29 2024 7:12 utc | 176 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 29 2024 7:12 utc | 176 Posted by: Grishka | Jan 29 2024 7:38 utc | 178 US navy logistics ship LEWIS B PULLER has been hit by a missile in the gulf of Aden. It is supposed to give support to US navy ships. Other claims say it is crewed by navy SEALs and delivering weapons to Israel. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 29 2024 7:43 utc | 179 Dick measuring contest thread, I see. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:43 utc | 180 Any ideas of timrframe? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:48 utc | 181 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 29 2024 7:43 utc | 179 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:56 utc | 182 Posted by: Grishka | Jan 29 2024 7:38 utc | 178 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 29 2024 7:58 utc | 183 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:48 utc | 181 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jan 29 2024 8:04 utc | 184 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:56 utc | 182 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 29 2024 8:09 utc | 185 I still think that Hamas is NOT dealing from weakness, but maybe this deal is simply dead. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 8:13 utc | 186 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | Jan 29 2024 8:15 utc | 187 Of course, US navy might simply start randomly sinking ships, marking its transition to a Somali pirate navy equivalent. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 8:18 utc | 188 Barrel Brown | Jan 29 2024 7:12 utc | 176 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 8:21 utc | 189 Megatron Posted by: Menz | Jan 29 2024 8:22 utc | 190 UN peacekeepers around Africa have been convicted of rape and sexual assault, Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 8:27 utc | 191 Larry Johnson’s latest video on the Jordan strike is not showing at his site but can be3 found here. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2024 8:38 utc | 192 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 29 2024 7:56 utc | 182 Posted by: Hankster | Jan 29 2024 8:39 utc | 193 About 90% of the container ships sailing through the Red Sea have been forced to divert from the crucial trade route since mid-December, according to shipping services and data provider Clarksons. (Nikkei Asia) Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 29 2024 8:46 utc | 194 james | Jan 29 2024 3:58 utc | 142 186 Arch Bungle. Around the time of the ICJ ruling this summit was initiated by Israel for 2 months’ ceasefire. “Israel considers this meeting crucial…”Not Blinken, but CIA director Burns in attendance for US. Hamas doesn’t attend. Hamas had said previously no more prisoner ( hostage) exchange without ceasefire. 2 months a small amount of time, but Hamas responds anyway, sending explicit non-negotiable requirements (through Qatar) that 100 to 1 prisoner exchange would be considered with a complete withdrawal of Israel from Gaza. Hamas also proposes from 10 to 14 days before prisoner exchange begins (making sure Israel out of the strip and no bombing imo – also imo, this withdrawal of Israel from the strip must be more beneficial to Hamas since Israel has to undertake all the re-positioning logistics. Regarding flow of weapons to Israel, this is happening whether or not there is a ceasefire (some hopefully interdicted by Houthis). The fallen US soldiers have the same function for the US as the hostages do for Israel: to justify genocide. And many more will undoubtedly die. Sure, it, too, will be packaged as the “right to defend itself” never mind they should never have been there in the first place. Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 29 2024 9:30 utc | 198 https://johnhelmer.org/the-tower-22-strike-in-jordan-triggers-us-israel-into-all-front-war-the-arabs-and-iran-are-ready-the-russians-too/ Posted by: Rubiconned | Jan 29 2024 9:37 utc | 199 Truer words… Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 29 2024 9:42 utc | 200 |
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