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January 18, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-020
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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A Barfly posted this article on prior thread, I’m reposted here because it’s profound;
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/half-of-the-troops-simply-walked-out-israeli-army-crisis-deepens/ Posted by: Exile | Jan 18 2024 16:34 utc | 1 This comes from the Zionist publication MEMRI today: Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 18 2024 17:49 utc | 2 From Middleeasteye live feed today: Posted by: teri | Jan 18 2024 17:59 utc | 3
… interesting link embedded in that post …
If we consider that Isreali admissions are going to low ball the true numbers, then it seems that Arch’s back-of-a-napkin calculations might be more accurate than even he supposed when he posted them … Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 18 2024 18:24 utc | 4 Tucker Carlson who is the most popular conservative media personality in America and had the highest rated cable show until he was fired by Fox News in April gets as close as possible to naming Jewish donors, intellectuals, editors, and deep state officials as the reason the US is once again nearing a war with Iran. Posted by: sevenfields | Jan 18 2024 18:25 utc | 5 From a previous thread – am thinking many will want to bookmark and share it forward: Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 18 2024 18:36 utc | 6 The Siege of Leningrad will have started 80 years ago on January 27th. Posted by: Veri1138 | Jan 18 2024 18:43 utc | 7
Ridiculous. One fingernail clipping of a jew is more powerful than a hundred goys. Talmud says so or something. Surely they don’t need training, spineless assassinations, extortion, child kidnapping, medical poison, a planetary banking cartel, bioweapons, hijacking every political organisation in the world, food embargoes, a hundred years of overwhelming media torture, weaponry that’s a century ahead of their targets, hundredfold manpower advantage, every lawyer in the western hemisphere, intentionally picking off children and old people, bombing across borders, helicopter gunships, epstein setups, orange trumps, or tormented golem nations with million-man armies, just to win against a handful of cattle? Chutzpah! Posted by: Michael A | Jan 18 2024 18:46 utc | 8 This headline is also from MEMRI. Note the whataboutism: Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 18 2024 19:04 utc | 9 nearly half of a newly-formed battalion has simply refused to go to Gaza claiming lack of training Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 19:16 utc | 10 Posted by: Michael A | Jan 18 2024 18:46 utc | 9 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jan 18 2024 19:22 utc | 11 From the river to the sea. Remember that is now banned phrase in a few nations . Well Netanyahu just says it for himself. Posted by: Hankster | Jan 18 2024 19:26 utc | 12 I have not been a huge fan of the BLM nor the DEI but do we realize what is now happening? Now that South Africa is making waves and the former president of Harvard, who was made to resign because of condoning “antisemitism” on campus, was black, the BLM, which was THE thing not so long ago, and the DEI seem to be becoming totally uncool. I can’t see how Israel is going to pull this one off. Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 18 2024 19:43 utc | 13 tangentially related.. Posted by: james | Jan 18 2024 19:44 utc | 14 Veri1138 | Jan 18 2024 18:43 utc | 8 Posted by: Joseph B | Jan 18 2024 19:49 utc | 15 The genetic geographical origins of the Caucasian looking trespassers in the illegal apartheid entity in the Levant is now trending throughout the social media sphere. Young people are pointing it out! Like a naked emperors hairy arse. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 18 2024 19:51 utc | 16 RE:Hankster @ 13, Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jan 18 2024 19:53 utc | 17 The cover-up is underway. Posted by: librul | Jan 18 2024 20:14 utc | 18 @ (real) James at Jan 18 2024 19:44 utc:
Here’s the link again: Iran-Russia Strategic Alliance Ready to Sign Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 18 2024 20:44 utc | 19 psychohistorian | Jan 18 2024 20:19 utc | 44 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 20:55 utc | 20 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/98976?single Posted by: Scot1and | Jan 18 2024 20:57 utc | 21 time for the arab states to encourage courageous men and peacenicks to emigrate and welcome them Posted by: Minaa | Jan 18 2024 21:07 utc | 22 Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jan 18 2024 19:53 utc | 18 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 21:10 utc | 23 The Oct 7th “stand down” false-flag is being explained away as Izzy: Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:10 utc | 24 The genetic geographical origins of the Caucasian looking trespassers in the illegal apartheid entity in the Levant is now trending throughout the social media sphere. Young people are pointing it out! Like a naked emperors hairy arse. Posted by: Michael A | Jan 18 2024 21:12 utc | 25 Thanks Tom and james. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 21:12 utc | 26 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/98976?single Posted by: Michael A | Jan 18 2024 21:15 utc | 27 Posted by: james | Jan 18 2024 19:44 utc | 15 Posted by: pq | Jan 18 2024 21:16 utc | 28 Bhadrakumar also used the term Anglo Saxons. There was some debate over it here when Lavrov and Putin were commonly using the term. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 21:24 utc | 29 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 18 2024 20:44 utc | 20 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:26 utc | 30 Mq9 reaper shot down in Iraq. Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:27 utc | 31 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:10 utc | 25
He’s also ignoring the fact that many warnings of several different types were ignored. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 21:32 utc | 32 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:27 utc | 32 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 21:33 utc | 33 pq | Jan 18 2024 21:16 utc | 29 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 21:34 utc | 34 Also, with respect to October 7th, this hasn’t gotten much traction here at MoA, but also speaks to (nearly exact) foreknowledge. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 21:35 utc | 35 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 21:34 utc | 35 Posted by: pq | Jan 18 2024 21:39 utc | 36 Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:10 utc | 25 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 21:42 utc | 37 Honzo and Tom_Q_Collins, Posted by: librul | Jan 18 2024 21:59 utc | 38 indian punchline today.. Decoding Iran’s missile, drone strikes Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 18 2024 21:59 utc | 39 pq | Jan 18 2024 21:39 utc | 37 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 22:00 utc | 40 This will spark some discussion (if it wasn’t already posted in a different thread):
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 22:04 utc | 41 If only the Palestinians weren’t paying such a heavy price for all of us to be allowed into a better future. Humanity owes them more than we can ever repay. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2024 22:09 utc | 42 Seems that, for the moment, the strategic goal of torpedoing Israel-Saudi normalization has been fulfilled. From Middle East Eye: Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 22:12 utc | 43 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 21:32 utc | 33 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 22:23 utc | 44 From what I’ve seen it is an American ship, ‘Chem Ranger’, which was struck by Yemeni missiles in the Gulf of Aden Posted by: Hankster | Jan 18 2024 22:25 utc | 45 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 22:04 utc | 42 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 22:34 utc | 46 Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:10 utc | 25 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 22:34 utc | 47 veri1138 Posted by: bevin | Jan 18 2024 22:34 utc | 48
Note to NATO propagandists: this is how you demonstrate an aerial object has been destroyed. Evidence. I realize your societies have been faith based for some time, but the concept of verification should not be a foreign one. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 18 2024 22:39 utc | 49 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 21:27 utc | 32 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 22:44 utc | 50 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 18 2024 22:23 utc | 45 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 22:45 utc | 51 On the day that Saudi Arabia issued a statement to the effect that there could be no ‘normalisation’ of relations with Israel until Israel commits itself to the founding of a Palestinian state, Netanyahu had confirmed that Israel is officially committed to the positionthat there won’t be a state for Palestinians-not in Palestine anyway. Posted by: bevin | Jan 18 2024 22:50 utc | 52 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 22:34 utc | 47 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 22:50 utc | 53 Netanyahu had confirmed that Israel is officially committed to the position that there won’t be a state for Palestinians-not in Palestine anyway. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 23:11 utc | 54 Both Pakistan and Iran claim that a a couple of children were killed in both attacks…god only knows what really went down but I hope the score stays at 1-1. Don’t need more drama. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 23:17 utc | 55 Nothing changed. Basically, he just said the quiet part out loud this time …
In his speech, he says that he must say “no to his friends”. Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 23:38 utc | 56 Tom Collins @ 42 Posted by: Jane | Jan 18 2024 23:41 utc | 57 Bbc Radio 4 news at 10 pm Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 18 2024 23:49 utc | 58 If only the Palestinians weren’t paying such a heavy price for all of us to be allowed into a better future. Humanity owes them more than we can ever repay. Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 23:51 utc | 59 We think its israel cold bloodedly murdering Palistinians, it isnt its england and america. Full stop Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 18 2024 23:58 utc | 61 Can someone from America explain why Tulsi Gabbard is not running for anything? Also how negative she is, towars Russia and China? What i could follow she seemed almost to Ritter’s, Johnson’s etc. scope. But she also sounds very Trumpist – that is bad for Ukraine, but somehow better for Israel, if she ever was. Posted by: whirlX | Jan 19 2024 0:30 utc | 62 “… The White House responded by saying the US would continue working towards a two-state solution and that there could be no Israeli reoccupation of Gaza when the war concluded.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 0:54 utc | 63 Time to seize our land and our destiny…ocean front property in Gaza is going for a good price (only for Jewish Winners of course!)… Posted by: Hebrew Conqueror | Jan 19 2024 1:14 utc | 64
That equation needs to be repeated. Conspiracies happen and many of them fail to be smooth operations. People pooh-pooh conspiracies’ existence because of the assumption they must be flawless in execution. Posted by: titmouse | Jan 19 2024 1:20 utc | 65 First time posting…a round & a toast…one reason for the carnage in Gaza…they want to destroy the deeds & titles of property ownership held by the Palestinians in places like Haifa…etc… Posted by: Prometheus1200BC | Jan 19 2024 1:23 utc | 66 Jonathan Cook on UK’s Ephraim Mirvis: Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 19 2024 1:26 utc | 67 by Hebrew Conqueror | Jan 19 2024 1:14 utc | 65 Posted by: whirlX | Jan 19 2024 1:31 utc | 68 Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 18 2024 22:44 utc | 51 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 1:46 utc | 69 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 22:45 utc | 52 Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 1:50 utc | 70 Can someone from America explain why Tulsi Gabbard is not running for anything? Also how negative she is, towars Russia and China? What i could follow she seemed almost to Ritter’s, Johnson’s etc. scope. But she also sounds very Trumpist – that is bad for Ukraine, but somehow better for Israel, if she ever was. Posted by: Honzo | Jan 19 2024 2:01 utc | 71 @ pq | Jan 18 2024 21:39 utc | 37 Posted by: Antonym | Jan 19 2024 2:03 utc | 72 .they want to destroy the deeds & titles of property ownership held by the Palestinians in places like Haifa…etc… Posted by: Jane | Jan 19 2024 2:12 utc | 73 An interesting development is Jordanian air force bombs a Syrian captagon drug dealer . Sounds like the usual Mafia enforcer move to solidify a turf but with jets and bombs not mobsters in black cars with Tommy guns Posted by: Hankster | Jan 19 2024 2:24 utc | 74 This a post from Aarsen Ostrosky, who Wikipedia describes ” Arsen Ostrovsky is a leading international human rights lawyer and CEO of the International Legal Forum” Posted by: Hankster | Jan 19 2024 2:46 utc | 76 I would like to posit this…the source of so much evil & warmongering emanates from Britain. Can we put forth the idea that the world should boycott Britain until is ceases planning wars, financing wars, implements wars, advocates for wars, propagandizing for wars, creates alliances for wars, this country must not be a pariah state until this is effectuated…also is there any brilliant barfly that can post all the wars this nation has implemented since say…1776…also…I think the Palestinians should sue Britain for a minimum of 30 trillion dollars for reparations…none of this genocide would be happening without this nation…and I insist on buying Jane a drink… Posted by: Prometheus1200BC | Jan 19 2024 3:08 utc | 77 by Honzo | Jan 19 2024 2:01 utc | 72 Posted by: whirlX | Jan 19 2024 3:11 utc | 79 A barfly posted this personal accpunt on the thread “Mainstream Media Lies” today. Worth surfacing again. Observations? Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Jan 19 2024 3:22 utc | 80 Honzo | Jan 18 2024 22:34 utc | 48 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2024 3:39 utc | 82 Yanis Varoufakis Posted by: Menz | Jan 19 2024 3:57 utc | 83 Menz @357 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 19 2024 4:04 utc | 84 James 15 Posted by: Giyane | Jan 19 2024 4:07 utc | 85 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 19 2024 4:04 utc | 85 Posted by: Menz | Jan 19 2024 4:10 utc | 86 The land titles are also kept online these days. No idea how vapid these electronic titles are. Agreed that the IDF blind rage attacks are intended to wipe out all traces of Arab inhabitants. The bulldozing of cemeteries and taking bodies from graves is the most clear sign of the Likud’s intentions. Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2024 4:16 utc | 87 Posted by: Antonym | Jan 19 2024 2:03 utc | 73 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 4:29 utc | 88
Ah yes, the trite comparison of a Israeli fascist. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 19 2024 4:44 utc | 89 Posted by: Minaa | Jan 18 2024 21:07 utc | 23 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jan 19 2024 4:46 utc | 90 It is ironic that Zionists like Dershowitz are trashing Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) while NYT’s DealBook runs stories about the need to tackle antisemitism – at the WEF in Davos. If you get to take your concerns to the WEF you may not be as oppressed as you may like to think. Some people’s delusion knows no bounds. Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 7:23 utc | 91 From the New York Times: Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 19 2024 7:28 utc | 92 https://www.timesofisrael.com/father-of-fallen-soldier-terrorist-decapitated-my-son-tried-to-sell-head-for-10000/ Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 8:12 utc | 93 Assal Rad Posted by: Menz | Jan 19 2024 8:28 utc | 94 Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 19 2024 8:12 utc | 94 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jan 19 2024 8:34 utc | 95 Though I have no doubt more than one here would pay for the decapitated head of a fallen Israeli soldier. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 8:37 utc | 96 Here’s hoping she wins the Australian Open: Posted by: Menz | Jan 19 2024 8:46 utc | 97
Had you blocked since the day you arrived, but I’m fairly sure everyone knows where YOUR HEAD is at! Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 19 2024 8:51 utc | 98 How both Shia Iran and Sunni Pakistan suppress a free (mostly Sunni) Baluchistan just like Israel is fed up with Hamas-Gaza: national security: https://www.dawn.com/news/1806777/trust-issues-why-are-pakistan-and-iran-up-in-arms Posted by: Antonym | Jan 19 2024 8:51 utc | 99 But, but … I thought Northern Gaza had been “cleared out” ?
I thought the Shebrew Warriors had sliced North from South, Left from Right and Coast from the hills …? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 19 2024 8:52 utc | 100 |
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