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January 17, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-018
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian says the country did not target any Pakistani nationals in its recent attack but rather targeted the terrorist group Jaish al-Adl. Posted by: Pq | Jan 17 2024 16:04 utc | 1 Day 103: 86,000 dead and injured Palestinians, >500,000 starving Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 17 2024 16:09 utc | 2 Just caught the tail end of a piece on China Global Television Network – there is finally medical aid being allowed to enter Gaza today? Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 16:16 utc | 3 https://t.me/FotrosResistance/4442 Posted by: Pq | Jan 17 2024 16:19 utc | 4 Let’s hope this author is wrong… Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 16:22 utc | 5 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 17 2024 16:09 utc | 2 Posted by: Pq | Jan 17 2024 16:23 utc | 6 How weird this sounds after Austen’s prostate cancer surgery: Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 17 2024 16:37 utc | 7 South Africa may have given the World Court a way out of ruling that Israel is plausibly committing genocide and must halt its attacks, writes Joe Lauria. Posted by: laguerre | Jan 17 2024 16:47 utc | 8 Hi and thanks pq – yes that piece ran again and said the agreement was brokered by Qatar and France and the meds let in were to be delivered to “israelis” via Red Cross (Crescent?) and some for areas in Gaza that have not had any since the genociding began. “israel” far right are fuming at the Netanyaho for allowing trucks to be uninspected. Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 16:53 utc | 9 Slavyangrad this morning had the IDF KIA data: Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 17 2024 16:55 utc | 10 ‘TEMPERATURE’S RISING’ IN IRAQ FOR >THE EMPIRE OF LIES< AKA U.S.A. !
Side effects of GENOCIDE-JOE's politics.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-base-evacuated-in-syria-due-to-repeated-iraqi-resistance Posted by: MD | Jan 17 2024 16:57 utc | 11 @Posted by: Augusto Pi | Jan 17 2024 16:55 utc | 10 Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2024 17:15 utc | 12 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 16:22 utc | 5 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 17 2024 17:19 utc | 13 Augusto Pi, I will give that (17:15) context. Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2024 17:21 utc | 14 Israel lost around 170 soldiers from the 8th October onward (the total number is around 520, but some 2/3 were killed on the 7th). Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 17 2024 17:31 utc | 15 How weird this sounds after Austen’s prostate cancer surgery: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 17 2024 17:35 utc | 16 @ Arch Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 17:36 utc | 17 The ICJ is not a done deal, international institutions are very compliant with the US. I hope they rule for South Africa, but if they want to duck the issue they will find a way, no matter how credible it is. Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 17 2024 17:44 utc | 18 Regarding ICJ case being dismissed on technical grounds argued by Israel – there is no dispute, hence no jurisdiction (todays consortiumnews article) Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2024 17:45 utc | 19 Jonathan W.@1637 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 17:48 utc | 20 Israel lied to the ICJ about the number of aid trucks per day. They told the court that the number of trucks had increased to 109 from a prewar level of 70 per day. But the prewar number was 500 a day accourding to the UN and AP. Posted by: team10tim | Jan 17 2024 17:50 utc | 21 Israeli murderers Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 17 2024 17:51 utc | 22 A. Pi @1655 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 17:51 utc | 23 Support for the Palestinian Cause
Massive salute to the Green Brigade. Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 17 2024 17:52 utc | 24 MD@1657 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 17:57 utc | 25 “Cretin.” Arch@1735 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 18:03 utc | 27 Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2024 17:45 utc | 19 Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 17 2024 18:04 utc | 28 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 16:53 utc | 9 Posted by: Pq | Jan 17 2024 18:05 utc | 29 pretzelattack@1744 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 18:09 utc | 30 aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 17:57 utc | 25 @27 Posted by: bevin | Jan 17 2024 18:12 utc | 31 Thanks for that Pq, I don’t recall ever reading anything in that vein but it makes a lot of sense. Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 18:12 utc | 32 Red Cross? I lost all respect for that pack of grifters after their behavior in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake. Shouldn’t have taken me that long, actually. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 17 2024 18:14 utc | 33 @ aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 18:03 utc | 27 Posted by: tawharanui | Jan 17 2024 18:19 utc | 34 Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 17 2024 18:04 utc | 28 Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2024 18:20 utc | 35 Iirc the MEK (Mujahideen E Khalq) , a terrorist group operating in Iran had been labelled a terrorist group by the US especially after they murdered American officers in Iran in the Seventies. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 17 2024 18:54 utc | 36 As a famous US President once said “[US Supreme Court Justice] John Marshall has made his decision; let him enforce it.” Even if SA wins its case and the ICJ completely agrees with SA, who will enforce the decision and how? Posted by: c matt | Jan 17 2024 18:58 utc | 37 Sometimes there are comical twists in deadly-serious events. Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2024 18:59 utc | 38 aristodemos mentioned that there are no coincidences and that C G Jung named them congruences, but more correctly Jungs concept was synchronicity not congruence. Synchronicity is an instance where two or more things happen (at the same time)and are connected with meaning(which necessarily includes perception of a consciousness), not causality etc. Posted by: Die Niemands… | Jan 17 2024 19:02 utc | 39 aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 17:57 utc | 25 @27 The Zionists have always encouraged antisemitism and violence against Jews because it encouraged reluctant Jews to support their project. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 17 2024 19:06 utc | 41 Is there really lacking a dispute between South Africa and Israel, as barrister Shaw alleged, which would allow the ICJ to turn down the request for intermediary measures? Posted by: Udkanten | Jan 17 2024 19:08 utc | 42 Pq | Jan 17 2024 16:19 utc | 4 Posted by: Joey | Jan 17 2024 19:11 utc | 43 TASS Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 17 2024 19:13 utc | 44 Canuck, the problem with your analysis is,if of the 30 guys in the room 29 are gay–your in a gay bar and the 6 HOT ladies are gay looking at each other and not your fat hairy hetro self Posted by: zargo | Jan 17 2024 19:17 utc | 45 Posted by: c matt | Jan 17 2024 18:58 Posted by: Caliman | Jan 17 2024 19:26 utc | 46 Thanks I hope the Red Cross are kept out of it. Imho, they leak info to Israel. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 17 2024 19:27 utc | 47 It’ll be interesting to see who rats out Empire by taking up Ansar Allah on their offer of safe passage.
Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 17 2024 19:29 utc | 48 RE:”Red Cross always safe and sound. How is this possible? Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 17 2024 19:42 utc | 49 8 laguerre.. clearly showing a deliberate intention to avoid the genocide convention rules and regulations and had signed up to those requirements .Cannot use “lost in the post…sorry we were busy (genociding oops).. amnesty international today on aljazeera says it has documentation to persue a case against USA for complicity suppling shells etc ….I wonder if there is a latrst list of participant states and various groups . aljazeera is taking action against loss of its journalists I think I saw. Posted by: Jo | Jan 17 2024 19:47 utc | 50 Various comments about King Chuck Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 17 2024 19:49 utc | 51 Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 17:36 utc | 17 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 17 2024 19:51 utc | 52 RE: Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 17 2024 19:49 utc | 51 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 17 2024 19:55 utc | 53 hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 16:22 utc | 5 Posted by: Joseph B | Jan 17 2024 19:56 utc | 54 20 Aristo.. check out the book on synchoncities Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle. (From Vol. 8. of the Collected Works of C. G. Jung) (Jung Extracts, 30) Posted by: Jo | Jan 17 2024 20:06 utc | 55 No, oldhippie…pegging is a solidly hetero act so you’re safe and contempt is shared by many! Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 20:13 utc | 56 laguerre @8 Posted by: Lawrence Miller | Jan 17 2024 20:30 utc | 57 Back when he was only Prince Charles, the King once told Lady Camilla that he wished he were her tampon — so the insertion would seem to go both ways. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 17 2024 20:31 utc | 58 Recent history of the war on Yemen — U.S. now stepping into KSA’s place. Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Jan 17 2024 20:35 utc | 59 tawharanui@1819 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 20:36 utc | 60 Old hippie @ 51 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 17 2024 20:39 utc | 61 C.Matt@1858 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 20:41 utc | 62 Die Niemands @1902 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 20:48 utc | 63 Canuck@1904 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 21:07 utc | 64 Who is going to enforce an ICJ convection against Israel? How would that even work? Posted by: jef | Jan 17 2024 21:08 utc | 65 It’s behind a paywall but according to WSJ it will take 7-10 years to rebuild Gaza and a year to clean all the rubble. That’s just the housing I think. Never mind all the schools, hospitals, libraries, and the universities. For being such a poor country Gaza has one of the highest literacy rates in the world. Posted by: pq | Jan 17 2024 21:20 utc | 66 Correction, Pq…the US taxpayers will foot the bill, izzys never pay for anything. Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 21:25 utc | 67 Major news: Posted by: JB | Jan 17 2024 21:26 utc | 68 anon2020@1929 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 21:27 utc | 69 Dean Ulich: You know, Coach. I’m going to let the Lambdas live over at the Alpha Beta house while you and your boys rebuild theirs! Posted by: hedlykarok | Jan 17 2024 21:28 utc | 70 Mea Culpa: Blame it on retirerdation. In my 2107 posting the Pope epigram was incomplete. Revision follows: Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 21:39 utc | 71 pq@2020 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 21:45 utc | 72 Please excuse my prolific postings. Sometimes it is a positive thing for an airing out of the sheets, so to speak. On occasion, we all need reminders of things we already understand at some level or another. Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 22:00 utc | 73 Rebuilding of Gaza: Posted by: jayc | Jan 17 2024 22:05 utc | 74 65.. I have posted before what happens if Isr does not comply ..if settlers and others decide to ignore..is axis of resistance entitled to take action…hence the current “hold off “at he moment”.. does the genocide convention go to UN GA .. UNSC etc for authorisations of action etc,???? Posted by: Jo | Jan 17 2024 22:12 utc | 75 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/17/israel-ramps-up-attacks-on-khan-younis-as-aid-for-gaza-arrives-in-egypt Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 22:12 utc | 76 Anyone who actually believes that the IDF has suffered only 170 KIA’s in the Gaza offensive, needs to consult the facts……… Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 17 2024 22:17 utc | 77 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 21:07 utc | 64 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 17 2024 22:18 utc | 78 just checked.. a series of Notes Verbale had been sent to Isr. by South Africa but had not been satisfactorily answered….. Posted by: Jo | Jan 17 2024 22:28 utc | 79 Another ship gets hit in the Red Sea. Off of Aden. The west just got an answer. Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 17 2024 22:39 utc | 80 Siddhartha@2218 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 22:44 utc | 81 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 17 2024 17:35 utc | 16 Posted by: Menz | Jan 17 2024 22:46 utc | 82 D&B@2200 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 17 2024 23:01 utc | 83 why is a meme of augusto pinochet still whitelisted on this site? shut the fuck up and find your own feedback loop to hide inside. i recommend others to simply ignore this fascist scum Posted by: B: warum? | Jan 17 2024 23:12 utc | 84 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 17 2024 22:00 utc | 73 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 17 2024 23:14 utc | 85 @ Delhiliterally | Jan 17 2024 19:06 utc | 41 Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Jan 17 2024 23:17 utc | 86 jef @# 65 “Who is going to enforce an ICJ convection against Israel? How would that even work?” Posted by: Willow | Jan 17 2024 23:51 utc | 87 Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 17 2024 17:52 utc | 24 Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Jan 17 2024 23:56 utc | 88 i recommend others to simply ignore this fascist scum Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:15 utc | 89 There is no medical evidence to suggest a link between gay sex and enlarge prostrates or prostrate cancer. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:20 utc | 90 Posted by: Menz | Jan 17 2024 22:46 utc | 82 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 0:25 utc | 91 Posted by: B: warum? | Jan 17 2024 23:12 utc | 84 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 0:28 utc | 92 https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1747770408386896245 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2024 0:35 utc | 93 Started off just one ship last week with its AIS saying no link Israel, now there’s more . Very powerful international message. Posted by: Hankster | Jan 18 2024 0:36 utc | 94 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:20 utc | 90 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 18 2024 0:36 utc | 95 Anyone who actually believes that the IDF has suffered only 170 KIA’s in the Gaza offensive, needs to consult the facts………
Assume just 1 IDF was killed in each of the above events: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:40 utc | 96 We’re conservatively sitting at around 10800 permanent plus recoverable casualties Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:42 utc | 97 Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 17 2024 16:37 utc | 7 Posted by: Morongobill | Jan 18 2024 0:44 utc | 98 Posted by: Siddhartha | Jan 18 2024 0:36 utc | 95 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 18 2024 0:45 utc | 99 Hot Takes from Davos
It was plucked from his “conversation” with the flatulent D.C. fixture Tom Friedman today. Evidently, OpenAI’s algorithm left quite a few tasteless one-liners on the table.
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To be sure, each non sequitur is a farcical representation of the PNAC, but taken together stake NATO’s tent to “facts on the ground”.
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