South African application for provisional measures to the ICJ. Read pages 60-67 – which is a litany of Likud and IDF leadership public exhortations for ethnic cleansing and worse.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
Now ask yourself – how will the War Party prevent this case from being heard ?

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2024 15:56 utc | 3

North Korea and Gaza. Even if there were no connection the west and Israel will find it. The shelling has continued today and the country has warned against provoking it.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 7 2024 15:47 utc | 2
There is a connection: DPRK shells a tiny border island; preventing the US from withdrawing forces from the Far East to employ against Yemen/Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas. It’s no accident, whether it was arranged with Hamas’ knowledge and consent or not.
The west can’t defend all of its outposts, and everyone knows it. Any attempt to concentrate force against one opponent is an invitation for another to become active. The minions of the west see this and understand they can’t rely on US protection anymore. Expect defections. Expect more action in the Americas if the US commits more resources to the battles in the Old World. Expect more action in Africa as the colonial occupiers are forced to withdraw from their bases.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 7 2024 16:31 utc | 5

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2024 16:42 utc | 7
Harvard’s undergraduate body is over 30% Jewish.
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Wow! I had no idea it was that large. Can you give me a link so I can quote that statistic?

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 7 2024 16:47 utc | 7

john brewster,
Jewish American Harvard Grad analyzes ethnic composition of Ivy League
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2024 17:04 utc | 9

29,722 dead
About 8,000 missing
about 59,000 injured with most hospitals not operating and medical supplies being blocked by Israel.
So exactly 3 months after ground invasion, 1.7% of the population of Gaza is dead and about 4.4% are dead, missing, injured.
About 5680 new hostages taken by Israel since Oct 7.
Over 500 killed in West Bank in 2023.
Wael Al Dadouh, the AJ journalist who previously had his wife, daughter, son, a grandson, and a colleague killed, had another one of his sone killed today.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 7 2024 17:29 utc | 11

Expect more action in Africa as the colonial occupiers are forced to withdraw from their bases.
Posted by: Honzo | Jan 7 2024 16:31 utc | 6
As b wrote last year, the US wants France out of Africa so it can take its place. But what if the US has to get out of Africa to attend to its other business abroad? That prospect alone should get the rest of the continent behind the South African genocide case against Israel.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 7 2024 17:39 utc | 13

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/01/07/717785/Palestine-resistance-air-defense-IRGC-commander-Masjedi
One day Palestinians will be equipped with air defense: IRGC general
PressTV
January 7, 2024

A senior commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) says the Palestinian resistance groups will one day be equipped with air defense systems enabling them to repel Israeli airstrikes.
Iraj Masjedi, who serves as a top advisor to the commander of the IRGC Quds Force, said on Sunday the power of resistance groups in Palestine is increasing by the day.
“The Palestinians are fighting with rockets today but a day will come when they will not allow bombardments by the Zionists and they will obtain air defense weapons,” Masjedi said while addressing a conference in Tehran.
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This is a typical specimen of the sort of propaganda that exemplifies IRI and IRGC. This same IRGC has been unusually quiet as a mouse as we know during this entire normalized ultra violence programming by Cabal. But then they go and open their mouths and it is not MEMRI who then goes fishing it out, no, it is on the front page of PressTV. They want us to know about this general making counter productive noises.
It sounds like a promise but there is nothing there. It is the most stupid thing to say now as it simply gives Zionists excellent pretext — this from the Pretext Generating Regime of Cabal — to say “how can we allow them to stay in Gaza with AA assets?”
Seriously, is IDF going to ground their airforce? Why is there never been AA weapons shipped to Gaza when they managed to send all sorts of other crap?
Because Zionistan’s chosen resistance Hamas was not permitted by Zionistan to have these weapons.
Because anyone with this sort of armament has effectively grounded their airforce.
So to sum:
Gaza is flattened after months of daily bombardments and IRGC is saying “one day they will have AA”. IRGC did not give the resistance AA before this.
“One day the Palestinians will have air defense” – IRGC General
“They [IRI] will have a nuclear bomb and they will represent that.” – US President

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 18:04 utc | 15

Somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
There’s a land that I heard of
Once in a lullaby
Somewhere over the rainbow
Skies are blue
And the dreams that you dare to dream
Really do come true
Someday I’ll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemon drops
Away above the chimney tops
That’s where you’ll find me
Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
Birds fly over the rainbow
Why, then, oh, why can’t I?
If happy little bluebirds fly
Beyond the rainbow
Why, oh, why can’t I?

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 18:16 utc | 17

Quite a lot has been written about Epstein’s connections to Harvard. This for starters:
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-harvard-summers/
I can’t help thinking Ackman is scared of something that might come up.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 7 2024 18:31 utc | 19

Of course everybody who is anybody knew and remembered how Afghanistan’s Mujahedin defeated the Soviet occupiers of Afghanistan with AA Stinger missiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
That looks pretty compact to me. Fits in a tunnel, that’s for sure.
So puzzle me this: how is it that no one (!) ever (!!) has shipped a single lousy MANPAD to Gaza ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system
Not a single one of these in black market to be had to give to the Palestinians? Or black market arms merchants are not permitted (by whom?) to do this as a cartel?
“an open enemy” …
open: Transparent, in sight, observable, discernible.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 18:42 utc | 21

Of course everybody who is anybody knew and remembered how Afghanistan’s Mujahedin defeated the Soviet occupiers of Afghanistan with AA Stinger missiles.
So puzzle me this: how is it that no one (!) ever (!!) has shipped a single lousy MANPAD to Gaza ?
Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 18:42 utc | 24
Why not ask our mutual friend Alastair Crooke??
Wikipedia:
“Crooke later worked for nearly 30 years in the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6)[8] under diplomatic cover in Northern Ireland, South Africa, Colombia, Pakistan and the Middle East. His early work included helping provide weapons to jihadists fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan and assisting in the Northern Ireland peace process.[6][9]”
ICJ:
The Feb 19th ICJ hearing on Palestine is important. It seems that while the ICJ Advisory Opinion of 2004 established that Israel as an occupying power, had no right to self defense under article 51, is responsible for protecting civilians, must pay reparations etc. nobody bothered to see if the occupation itself was illegal and why it’s been going on for so long.
Occupations are not supposed to be forever things.
The only dissenting opinion on the ICJ 2004 opinion was the US judge Burguenthal, yet another Holocaust survivor.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 7 2024 18:59 utc | 23

RE: Posted by: JB | Jan 7 2024 18:42 utc | 23
It’s just a “hearing” to see if enough evidence to “accept” the case. Nothing more. They then have 1-2 weeks to make a recommendation on the “provisional” request.
Interesting of a week ago, France penciled in a UNSC meeting scheduled for January 23:
“Under the French presidency, the Security Council will continue to monitor the situation in the Middle East, Ukraine, West Africa, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, Cyprus, Nagorno-Karabakh, Haiti, Colombia and Central Asia. Major humanitarian crises will also be on its agenda.
France will organize several important meetings in this regard:
On January 23, Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs Catherine Colonna will chair an open ministerial debate on the situation in the Middle East to which international and regional partners will be invited. This event will help us move toward a political, security and humanitarian resolution of the crisis.”
Add 2 weeks to 11-12 “hearing” , you have January 25-26.
Obviously West looking to get case dropped.
Trying to set up situation that “no determination” is made and case “dropped” because “provisional” measures are no longer needed. “Ceasefire” has eliminated need for provisional measures.
Then somewhere in the “reviewing” of the case over the next 18-26 months, it’s withdrawn.
There are a lot of people who believe the ICJ is “stuck”. I believe it won’t do anything except “further” deliberate” and “examine” the evidence further, and stall out till off PR radar.
I’d prefer to be wrong.
I’d prefer a decisive judgement & quick address to provisional action.
But it looks to me that Borrel, France, Blinken & other nation state heads, are already “gaming out” how to back burner the whole affair & then remove entirely.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 19:09 utc | 25

CV of Aharon Barak
https://www.academy.ac.il/SystemFiles/19706.pdf

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2024 19:18 utc | 27

I see my original post has been removed.
It would be useful to know if it was simply too long, or if the content was somehow unacceptable.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 7 2024 19:26 utc | 29

Posted by: Pq | Jan 7 2024 18:59 utc | 23
I don’t know the ‘ex-spook’ you refer to. Speaking of spooks:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/books/john-le-carre-book-the-pigeon-tunnel-stories-from-my-life.html
Le Carre has a theory that the best spooks are inherently damaged people. I personally see the attraction but the ethical and moral hazards are off the chart.
Spooks, former or otherwise, regardless of flag or cause, must accept as true the doctrine of ‘End justifies the means’. Whoever swallows that lie has already gone stray imho. Nothing short of total and final rejection of that lie will make the ‘ex-‘ meaningful beyond an indication of active service and allegiance.
But not character.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 19:28 utc | 31

https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1744052709953593803
The Iraqi Resistance Forces launched a cruise missile against Israel’s most important port, Haifa
The missile fell near Haifa port and was not intercepted

Posted by: Baol Sigokra | Jan 7 2024 19:32 utc | 33

Haifa is the site of the second of 2 oil refineries in Israel. The first refinery is just north of the Gaza Fence.
Watch this space

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2024 19:39 utc | 35

RE: There will be a judgment. Israel can not escape it.
Posted by: JB | Jan 7 2024 19:45 utc | 36
That is the hoped for outcome 🍻.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 19:50 utc | 37

RE: Posted by: JB | Jan 7 2024 19:45 utc | 36
Full Finklestein ICJ assessment. About 10 minutes.
For what it’s worth .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu3jxj1tXAs&pp=ygULRmlua2Vsc3RlaW4%3D

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 20:12 utc | 39

The Aaron Mate piece linked in the summary is a good round-up of the case at ICJ.
It’s obvious the western countries feel they can public-relations their way to maintaining the status quo vis-a-vis Israel and the occupied territories, like they have in the past, but now likely wishful thinking. Israel’s “defence” is basically:
1) we are letting in humanitarian aid (while UN affiliated agencies on the ground say totally inadequate)
2) we have reduced civilian casualties (from 250-300 a day down to 100-150 a day – technically correct but still abhorrent)
In Qatar, Blinken tried to assert some leadership over the hostage negotiations only to be told the process had been severely set back because Israel blew up the main Hamas negotiator on this issue – an act the US publicly endorsed. Maybe the most bone-headed Sec State ever.

Posted by: jayc | Jan 7 2024 20:19 utc | 41

KusaMahshi reposted
Mariam Barghouti مريم البرغوثي
@MariamBarghouti
10:18 pm local,
A really big invasion of Ramallah is taking place right now. All over the city. Noting we’ve been under a partial siege from all over the entry points to and from the district closed for last 3 days.
Israeli forces are well deep into Ramallah, downtown in the city.
There are not only military soldiers invading but also special operations unit as well. These are known to be the most brutal and violent within the Israeli forces.
https://twitter.com/MariamBarghouti/status/1744091114691235968

Posted by: Menz | Jan 7 2024 20:24 utc | 43

Wut? We gotta fake Arch now?
Go away fake James.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 7 2024 20:28 utc | 45

Quds News Network
@QudsNen
Daughter of Wael Dahdouh during journalist Hamza’s funeral: “Please stay for us, no one is left but you.”
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744008397555466610

Posted by: Menz | Jan 7 2024 20:33 utc | 47

Re: As a Judeo-christian I am commanded to stand with Israel…
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 7 2024 20:17 utc | 40
Are you sure that’s correct? There’s certainly no uniformity of opinion amongst Christians on this.
Woulld you support Israel? No matter what they do?

Posted by: Araj | Jan 7 2024 20:38 utc | 49

Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
This is undoubtedly one of the most extraordinary interviews of a former senior US government official on Gaza.
This is Chas Freeman, former Assistant Secretary of Defense and former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.
Key points in the video:
– He agrees that many of the victims of Oct 7th were killed by the Israeli army in the form of “undisciplined fire by helicopters with hellfire missiles or by tanks with incendiary rounds directed at buildings”. In the case of the victims of the music festival he even says they “were largely killed, it appears, by hellfire missiles and by other undisciplined fire by Israeli forces”. To him this “disgrace in military terms” stems from a “lack of discipline and training necessary to respond” but also from the IDF’s “Hannibal directive”, which “says that rather than get into bargaining over hostage exchange you should just kill the Israeli hostages along with their captors.”
– He says that with Oct 7th “Hamas had 2 objectives”: 1) “Put the Palestinian self-determination issue back on the global agenda”, something he says they’ve “succeeded” in doing since they’re is “widespread recognition outside Israel that only self-determination for Palestine in the form of a 2-state solution can provide security to Israel”. He says that even in “the US, which has a larger Jewish population than Israel, many Jews have come to realize that this is the case. Younger Jews in particular in the U.S. are very disillusioned with Zionism and don’t want to suffer contagion from it in the form of antisemitism, which is actually growing now as a result of Israeli actions”.
2) “Give Hamas enormous popularity among Palestinians because they are seen as having stood up, as having been willing to accept death rather than captivity”. He refers to Norman Finkelstein’s “analogy of slave revolts in the U.S.” and particularly the “1831 revolt by Nat Turner, a well-educated very intelligent enslaved African who led a slave revolt in Southern Virginia which had as its objective the murder of every white person they encountered.” He says it “raises a moral question: ‘Is the violence of the slave-owner morally the same as the violence of the slave trying to end that violence?’. The same moral question arises with Israeli oppression of Palestinians versus Palestinian resistance to oppression.”
– All in all he concludes that much like the violence against African-Americans that followed slave revolts in the 19th century, the Israeli vengeance against Palestinians “won’t be remembered fondly by anyone in the future”. In fact he goes as far as saying that “when people think of Israel in the past they thought of it as a refuge for the victims of the Holocaust… now they will think of it as the home of perpetrators of genocide. When they think of Israel, they will think of burned buildings and dead babies. This is an image problem of a fundamental nature and from the point of view of Israel it strips Israel of its protection by charges of antisemitism against anyone who is critical of Israel because to be critical of people who are carrying out genocide cannot be antisemitism, it cannot be considered immoral. Antisemitism is a despicable attitude but to oppose genocide by Israel is not.”
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1743865744218358216

Posted by: Menz | Jan 7 2024 20:44 utc | 51

20 years ago I predicted to a friend that Israel would destroy itself one Palestinian at a time. Looks like I was spot on so far.

Posted by: Vortex | Jan 7 2024 21:02 utc | 53

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 20:23 utc | 42
Either it was you posting/posing as FakeArchBungle or you aren’t aware of the name thieving hasbara and ukronazi trolls infesting MoA.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 7 2024 21:06 utc | 55

RE: Posted by: Pq | Jan 7 2024 20:35 utc | 48
January 16 would be nice. I agree.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 21:28 utc | 57

As if a baseline were needed for almost 30,000 killed and 8,000 missing / under rubble in only 3 months.
. . .
Posted by: Pq | Jan 7 2024 20:35 utc | 48
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Surely, besides the horrendous stats, the clear statements of genocidal intent will decisively differentiate the Gaza case from the (ridiculous) charge against Russia.
Also, we now know more details Russia’s good-faith efforts to resolve the issues with Ukraine and avoid the SMO (sabotaged by Boris Johnson and others) and Ukraine’s constant lethal attacks on civilians in the Donbass, plus Ukraine’s expressed intent and plan to commit genocide in the Donbass.
Surely this new info casts quite a different hindsight light on Ukraine’s self-serving charges against Russia.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 7 2024 21:43 utc | 59

Izzies wants to move on Lebanon.
Having 100,000+ misplaced needy, whiny entitled Zionist settlers is creating a nightmare for the regime.
I sincerely hope the stupid Izzies jump from the frying pan into the fire.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 7 2024 21:49 utc | 61

Russia and China are Melding | Dmitry Orlov on Dialogue works:
Very insightful/interesting interview. Jan 6,2023
Says in about as many words: The world is coming together, while the USA & it’s partners in crime are falling apart due to all the extreme corruption, endless wars & big lies. Says concern for civil war in the USA is growing.
~Apologies if this has already been posted:
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~20:36 Israel is starting to evaporate… half a million Israelis have fled the country since… the beginning of the conflict… the same as the number of ukrainians who decided to become Russian and arrive in Moscow and are processed and eventually get Russian citizenship become indistinguishable from the general population… Israel can lose people at this rate for maybe a year but in a year Israel if it keeps going at this rate Israel will be basically gone… it’ll evaporate it… it’ll be renamed Palestine
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~31:17 “Democratic party is is not a party… it’s not my opinion you can you can look it up… it’s nonprofit corporation.. a private Corporation
it’s not a public entity and it’s it’s closely held by a small group of insiders they’re the ones who picked Joe Biden – stuck him in the white house for four years knowing that he would decide nothing.
Biden’s cabinet … was picked for him is Jewish… very much aligned with Israel…. basically it’s the Obamas and the clintonites and and various other people who have so many skeletons in the closet it’s not even funny… They’ve killed so many people over the years that if all of those cases were actually investigated… the entire top of the quote unquote Democratic party would be in jail for life… so these people are fighting… for their lives they they can’t really afford to lose power… The United States has become one of these banana republics where you know if if a government gets
replaced… then it goes to jail….all of the laws get tossed and and and basically the country starts over um so that that’s the state of of us politics right now…
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Russia and China are Melding | Dmitry Orlov (36.5 minutes)
Dialogue works
https://youtu.be/JBz4fOUk37Y?si=on3JlXh2AP0V67mt

Posted by: Toby C | Jan 7 2024 22:29 utc | 63

Has anyone heard Finkelstein give a Palestine talk a) without mentioning the Holocaust AND
b) saying “we don’t know what happened on Oct 7, all we have are IDF allegations. Israel did not allow independent investigation and it seems the IDF also killed Israelis under the Hannibal Directive.
Is it just a coincidence that when he allegedly defends Palestine, he simultaneously detracts from the cause by reminding everyone of Jewish-only WWII suffering and fueling negative stereotypes about Palestinians? . Barflies won’t fall for it but much of the general public will.
His viral soundbite from his Piers Morgan interview? “It’s OK for Palestinians to be full of hate because my mom hated the Nazis”. Takeway for general public = Palestinians are full of hate.
Chas Freeman is great but it’s NF who gave him the Nat Turner Slave rebellion analogy. Why not say “military raid” as Scott Ritter did? Why not a generic slave rebellion. Why bring in Nat Turner? The issue of moral (non?)equivalence enters IF AND ONLY IF there is evidence of atrocities after an independent investigation…which Israel did not allow.
(As for the suggestions that “other people” followed Hamas into Gaza, that’s a ludicrous assumption. No unarmed man would risk going to military bases and armed kibbutz for a jaunt. They would expect IDF to kill them. We don’t know even how much of the IOF footage of random guys released in the weeks after Oct 7 really is from Oct 7. I remember new videos were released after Al Ahli hospital bombing).
NF’s analysis of ICJ judges on Katie Halper reveals the Israeli view that ICJ is a mini-UNSC with a supporting cast of stooges (fair enough).
NF says: Russia “may open a Pandora’s Box as they are accused of genocide in Ukraine”. Does he understand that the arrest warrants are from ICC (not ICJ) and they are not for genocide?
War crimes are one of four crimes under the Rome Statute along with genocide, crimes against humanity and crimes of aggression.
ICC March 17, 2023: arrest warrants for Putin and Lvova-Belova for “the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute).”
NF then alleges that Russia, China and India are all guilty of genocide, throwing the word around like confetti: “everybody knows” about China. No, Norman. I do not “know about China”. I know only that the Collective Waste suddenly loves Muslims only when they are trying regime change and destabilization. (Bosnia, Chechnya, Xinjiang, Myanmar). Muslims in Xinjiang are doing very well.
I never share anything Finkelstein because I find him to be a double edged sword.
I recommend this analysis of the ICJ application and likely response with an actual expert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3KErJkZf_Y
Ardi Imseis, a Queen’s U law prof has worked in Gaza with the UN.
In this other interview, he discusses his book, The United Nations and the Question of Palestine: Rule by Law and the Structure of International Legal Subalternity discusses how the UN is set up so as to put countries in a subaltern position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p7XnS-FXlI
Both interviews are by Mouin Rabbani, himself a Palestine expert. One of the many eloquent Palestinian voices that never seem to get as much airtime.

Posted by: pq | Jan 7 2024 23:04 utc | 65

Veri1138 @62
The half truth that Hamas was encouraged by Israel as a counterweight to Fatah is getting out of hand. Israel has been Hamas’s deadly enemy for at least twenty years- or do you think that the attacks on Gaza are part of a plan cooked up bty the Muslim Brotherhood and Zionists?
Toby@63
Thanks for the links. Orlov is always interesting and an original thinker.
Has anyone worked out the most likely casualties on October 7? We haven’t yet heard (or have we?) how many Palestinian militiamen were killed. But it seems that about 200 Israeli ‘civilians’ plus about seventy immigrant workers were killed. Which leaves about 8-900 to be accounted for. About 350 of them appear to have been IDF personnel, leaving 400-500 likely killed by the IDF following the Hannibal doctrine.
Those are very rough guesses from someone who really has not been counting (and can’t anyway).
It is one of the ironies of the entire Israel situation that one part of the world which understands that you cannot trust a word that the IDF or its myriad media outlets say is the Israeli population. In this they are at one with the other Palestinians.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 7 2024 23:08 utc | 67

Re Finkelstein on the ICJ judges –
I have great respect for Finkelstein, but he sees the ICJ as a political body not a court, hence he thinks the judges will decide cases before them (vote) in line with the politics of the state they are from.
There is no evidence of that, according to research of voting patterns and nationality of judges. Some researchers found that nationality of judges at the ICJ plays almost no role in their decisions.
From 6 February 2024 ICJ has a new composition of judges, since five new judges were elected last November to replace the ones whose terms end on 5 February this year.
For the first time, there will be no Russian judge.
The Court’s composition on 6 February 2024 will be as follows (terms expire on 5 February of the year in parentheses):
Ronny Abraham (France) (2027); Dalveer Bhandari (India) (2027); Antônio Augusto Cançado Trindade (Brazil) (2027); Xue Hanqin (China) (2030); Yuji Iwasawa (Japan) (2030); Georg Nolte (Germany) (2030); Nawaf Salam (Lebanon) (2027); Julia Sebutinde (Uganda) (2030); Peter Tomka (Slovakia) (2030); and Abdulqawi Ahmed Yusuf (Somalia) (2027); Hilary Charlesworth (Australia) (2033); Bogdan-Lucian Aurescu (Romania) (2033); Sarah Hull Cleveland (United States) (2033); Juan Manuel Gomez Robledo Verduzco (Mexico) (2033); and Dire Tladi (South Africa) (2033).

Posted by: JB | Jan 7 2024 23:17 utc | 69

Suresh @61, ” jump into the fire” Harry Nillson.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jan 7 2024 23:29 utc | 71

Nikki Haley shamelessly jumped on the Zionist ethnic cleansing wagon stating Palestinians should be moved to neighbouring Arab states like Qatar. Hope her day in court arrives soon for all her meddling in the UN for Zionist crimes over the years. But alas she’s touted as the next president

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 7 2024 23:37 utc | 73

As a Judeo-christian I am commanded to stand with Israel…
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 7 2024 20:17 utc | 40
My conversion to your hokey Middle Eastern cult from Buddhism has been greatly exaggerated …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 7 2024 23:49 utc | 75

Israeli Knesset today

Posted by: liveload | Jan 8 2024 0:29 utc | 77

Liveload 77
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Holy s—!!!

Posted by: Jane | Jan 8 2024 1:30 utc | 79

The man in the arena doesn’t have the option of delusion. Delusion will get the very best killed. Shut out the white noise and the group think. Focus on the bare facts before you. The enemy will tell you exactly what he is going to do. You only need but observe him.
All of Islam is united. Arab Sunni is sitting at the table with Persian Shia. Assad has been invited back into the fold. Erdogan is united with Assad. If you even understand a little of Islam then you will understand that this hasn’t happened in 1200 years.
And. All of Islam is united with Russia and China. And there is only one country that is standing behind the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
Basic military math. 7million genocidal Jews surrounded by 500 million Muslims whom the Jews have just declared to be sub-humans who must be exterminated.
Unlike western Christians, Muslims will not tolerate the genocide of their brethren. They have given Israel every opportunity for an off ramp and Israel has spit in their faces at every turn. The Muslim populace is demanding war.
People say that Israel will be the catalyst for wwIII. No. It will be the catalyst for the entire world waging war against the United States and Israel. By supporting Israel’s genocide we have burned all bridges.
Netanyahu and his cabinet have declared that Arabs are subhuman animals that must be exterminated. Palestinian women children and infants are no different from Hamas fighters and must be exterminated.
Given that rhetoric, when the world of Islam descends upon Israel do you think a single Israeli man woman or child will be spared? If Bibi or any of his cabinet or anyone in the IDF is captured alive they will be tried for war crimes and executed.
Bibi is counting on the paper tiger of the paper tiger of the US military to swoop in and save his ass. But Israel is a nuclear power! Yeah, so is Sunni Muslim Pakistan. But NATO will come to the rescue. Yeah, the most powerful military in NATO is Turkey. Listen to Erdogan. Who’s side do you think Muslim Turks are going to fight on?
Get ready for a whole new reality.

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 8 2024 1:42 utc | 81

Yes, I believe the Muslims will probably be merciful. In spite of all the hate we have visited upon them.

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 8 2024 2:04 utc | 83

Posted by: liveload | Jan 8 2024 0:29 utc | 77
Is that an Arab MP or a Jewish one?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 8 2024 2:47 utc | 85

RE: “Get ready for a whole new reality.”
Posted by: RLTW | Jan 8 2024 1:42 utc | 81
Not so fast. Yes, citizen support and views changing. But governances, as our own, are slow on the draw.
Consider this article in The Cradle.
These “facts” of “support” in the Muslim/Arab world for Gazans lay pretty bare for the world to see:
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/gaza-destroys-western-divide-and-rule-narratives
“The so-called ‘moderate Arabs,’ a misnomer for the western-centric, authoritarian Arab dictatorships subservient to Washington’s interests, have offered little more than lip service to the carnage in Gaza.
The Saudis called for support by hosting Arab and Islamic summits that were allowed to do and say nothing. The Emiratis and Jordanians trucked supplies to Israel that Ansarallah blockaded by sea. The mighty Egypt hosted delegations when all it needed to have done was to open the Rafah Crossing so Palestinians can eat. Qatar – once a major Hamas donor – now negotiates for the freedom of Israeli captives, while hosting Hamas ‘moderates,’ who are at odds with Gaza’s freedom fighters. And Turkiye’s trade with the Israeli occupation state continues to skyrocket (exports increased 35 percent from November to December 2023).
Palestine, for the pro-west ‘moderate Arabs,’ is a carefully handled flag they occasionally wave publicly, but sabotage privately”
It does factually show “change”. But that will be a very slow, metered one. And should the “war” enlarge? Then, who knows how the lines in the sands will be drawn.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 8 2024 3:12 utc | 87

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 7 2024 21:23 utc | 56
YW. Thanks for the heads up your ass.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 8 2024 3:30 utc | 89

Bottom line:
Israel is going to succeed in pushing the palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank and ….. As a Judeo-christian I am commanded to stand with Israel…
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 7 2024 20:17 utc | 40
That sounds like a pretty firm condemnation of your religion. I’m not sure others of your “faith” would agree with you. I’m quite comfortable with thinking that your so-called religion should be made extinct along with the other religions of the past, like the ancient religions of the Incas and Greeks that practiced human sacrifice.

Posted by: 40 Thieves | Jan 8 2024 3:47 utc | 91

robinthehood 17
Yes there’s a parallel between Hamas not being given AA to hit Israeli planes and Ukrainians not being given thectools to fight USUKIS proxy war against Russia.
The parallel is the ensuing genocide.
Genocide happens all the time. Nice try by Dar ul Harb to try to limit the Gaza conflict to a mere genocide.
Alistair Crooke calls it a clash of civilisations, like Brits in Raj times telling their wives ‘ Spot of bother on the NorthWest frontier darling ‘.
It’s not a clash, it’s a USUKIS Crusade.
It’s a mowing of the scary to them ascendancy of Islam. When the Islam that is contained in the Gospels was opened up to Europe in the 15th century through translation, Feudal power was broken. Now, the relentless subjugation of Muslim countries for Oil has despatched Armies of Muslims to Europe.
USUKIS are so shit-scared of the Qur’an they have opened a Crusade against Islam at one of its weak points.
This isn’t about oil, or geopolitics. It never is. It’s about the roof falling in of their edifice of lies, Market forces Worship.of Mammon and all they are wearing is a little lace nightie of Fiat Banking.
It’s much worse than a genocide. It’s a terrified attack on the truth of Islam.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 8 2024 3:57 utc | 93

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 8 2024 2:47 utc | 85
Looks Like Ayman Odeh, a Palestinian Member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

Posted by: Menz | Jan 8 2024 4:26 utc | 95

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 8 2024 2:04 utc | 83
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It’s not mercy for mercy’s sake. It’s all been predicted in the Glorious Quran. Muslims believe that God has written the script on everything until the Day of Judgment (predestiny). That includes the future of the Jews as well as the future of the Holy Land.
Muslims believe that nothing is possible without Allah’s permission because everything falls within Allah’s remit.
So, while none of us are happy about it if someone bombs Gaza and kills 20,000 Palestinians, from an Islamic point of view, that is all as God intended it. Any Muslim who argues otherwise would be an apostate. One can dislike God’s tests, but a believer cannot deny that it is God who is doing the testing.
Yes, individual Muslims can and will do terrible things, they are human after all, and can match the Zionists and atheistic psychopaths blow for blow, but Islam qua Islam does not allow for that. Jews have always been the scheming, mischievous, and rebellious younger cousins of the Ummah (all Muslims as a nation under God). That is how God wanted it to be. Jews are also being tested, whether they follow the laws revealed by the Messengers and hold firm in their belief of their creator.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 8 2024 4:36 utc | 97

RT reports on Outlaw US Empire’s DIA assessment, “Israel would not win war with Hezbollah – US officials: The IDF would be spread too thin if it attempted to fight a war on two fronts, American spies reportedly believe.”

A secret assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in Washington has found that Israeli forces would find it “difficult to succeed” in a two-front war against Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Washington Post reported on Sunday.
The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have engaged in tit-for-tat exchanges of fire with Hezbollah militants since the start of the war with Hamas in October. Initially limited in scale, Hezbollah’s pounding of an Israeli intelligence base with missiles on Saturday in response to Israel assassinating a senior Hamas leader in Beirut several days earlier, has marked a significant escalation.
While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised to make a “fundamental change” to the security situation along the Lebanese border, American officials have privately warned him against opening a second front, the Washington Post reported.
“If it were to do so, a new secret assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) found that it will be difficult for Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to succeed because its military assets and resources would be spread too thin given the conflict in Gaza,” citing two anonymous officials and a classified report by the DIA.
Israel’s military is relatively small in peacetime, relying on reservists to swell its ranks in times of conflict. The IDF called up around 360,000 reservists when the war with Hamas began, although a senior Israeli official told Reuters last week that an undisclosed number would soon be released from duty.
Amid this drawdown, Hezbollah has been open about its role in the conflict. The group’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, claimed in November that his forces had tied up around a third of Israel’s troops along the Israel-Lebanon border, preventing them from being deployed to Gaza. He added that Hezbollah’s continued skirmishes with the IDF were causing “a state of anxiety, anticipation, panic, and fear among the enemy’s political and military leadership.”
“A full-scale conflict between Israel and Lebanon would surpass the bloodshed of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon war on account of Hezbollah’s substantially larger arsenal of long-range and precision weaponry,” the paper stated, citing officials who also warned that the militant group could launch missile attacks on Israeli petrochemical plants and nuclear reactors.
Washington also fears that such a conflict could draw in Iran – Hezbollah’s principal backer – and eventually the US, the paper’s sources said.

A fact rarely mentioned is that Netanyahu’s wife also faces prison along with him for corruption crimes. My bet is that he’ll do whatever it takes to keep him and his wife out of prison, and that means attacking Hezbollah.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 8 2024 5:04 utc | 99