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As an American, I have never seen the horrifying prospect of civil war closer than I have seen it today. I hope and pray that someone with sanity in the Federal government takes actions to stand down from this impasse over Texas. Is illegal immigration the hill the Democrats want to die on?
Posted by: mtw | Jan 26 2024 15:47 utc | 1
Genuine question for US barflies:
How far do you think Texas is willing to go with the border dispute with the Federal government? What will be the consequences thereof?
Posted by: Down South | Jan 26 2024 15:48 utc | 2
Sanctions appear to be working alright, it’s a complete shit show over in the Russian Federation right now.
Here in the USA we are getting a 10% discount on Chinese goods due to the discounted energy China gets from Russia now.
Russia needs to go back to doing what Russia is good at. Selling cheap oil and gas to the West so we can keep making all the good stuff and further humanity.
Posted by: Neld | Jan 26 2024 15:54 utc | 3
No privacy in totalitarian UK
(I tried to post this in the previous open thread, but the spam filter blocked it. This time I will leave out some of the links.)
An interesting story appeared a few days ago in the British media.
British man Aditya Verma appears in Spanish court over plane-bomb hoax – BBC
A British man accused of public disorder after joking about blowing up a flight has gone on trial in Spain.
Aditya Verma made the comment on Snapchat on his way to the island of Menorca with friends in July 2022.
The message, sent before Mr Verma departed Gatwick airport, read: “On my way to blow up the plane (I’m a member of the Taliban).”
Mr Verma’s message was picked up by the UK security services who flagged it to Spanish authorities while the easyJet plane was still in the air.
A court in Madrid heard it was assumed the message triggered alarm bells after being picked up via Gatwick’s Wi-Fi network.
Mr Verma is not facing terrorism charges or a possible jail term, but could be fined up to €22,500 (£19,300) if found guilty and the Spanish defence ministry is demanding €95,000 in expenses.
Searching for Snapchat and encryption I found this page:
Does Snapchat Encrypt Data? – newsoftwares.net
Yes, Snapchat encrypts data to ensure the security and privacy of its users’ information. When you send messages, photos, or videos on Snapchat, the content is encrypted in transit and on the servers. This encryption helps protect your data from unauthorized access and ensures that only the intended recipient can view the content.
Snapchat uses end-to-end encryption for its messages, which means that the messages are encrypted on the sender’s device and can only be decrypted by the recipient’s device. This ensures that even if someone intercepts the messages during transit, they won’t be able to read the content.
Snapchat also employs encryption for user login credentials and other sensitive information stored on their servers. This encryption makes it difficult for hackers or unauthorized individuals to access user data.
Others have been wondering about the same questions. This Reddit post from yesterday was the first result to my Google search
Isn’t snapchat end-to-end encrypted? – Reddit
I just bumped into this article describing how someone’s snapchat message got flagged by Spanish authorities because of a plane-bomb hoax/joke.
It is explained that the message got “picked up by Gatwick’s wifi” before being reported to the authorities.
Does anybody know how this is possible? Isn’t a snapchat conversation supposed to be end-to-end encrypted?
When secretly or illegally obtained surveillance information has been used to prosecute someone, Anglo-Saxons have had the decency to use “parallel construction” to hide the secret or illegal origin of the incriminating material. No more so.
My comment on Twitter:
#Briefgeheimnis is dead in UK:
1) No crime: private message cannot cause “public disorder”.
2) #Snapchat communication encrypted, need signed but fake TLS cert & MITM to eavesdrop.
3) Secret UK warrantless surveillance exposed, no “parallel construction”.
What is Briefgeheimnis?
Before Europe lost its sovereignty to the American occupation regime, Europeans had a constitutional protection and right to secrecy of correspondence or Briefgeheimnis. The concept, and the related German concept of Rechtsstaat, remain largely unknown in the Anglo-Saxon world. Late 20th century European constitutions extended this protection to all communication, including electronic communication.
(This lack of Anglo-Saxon understanding of the concept is clearly demonstrated by the fact that I had to write the Wikipedia article on the topic in 2006, and that it has seen little development since.)
As a constitutional protection, secrecy of correspondence gives an absolute expectation of privacy, at least in cases of law. Only God, and maybe the NSA, are allowed to know what is in the message and they are not allowed to reveal it to anyone.
There is no explicit guarantee for secrecy of correspondence in the US Constitution or in the Bill of Rights. All that is protected is a the home and the papers within. Outside the home privacy is limited by a “reasonable expectation of privacy”. Before Edward Snowden Americans believed that they were safe from warrantless surveillance. That is no more the case. By openly admitting that they listen to all communications, Americans have also abolished the constitutional protection of secrecy of correspondence.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 16:01 utc | 4
How far do you think Texas is willing to go with the border dispute with the Federal government? What will be the consequences thereof?
Posted by: Down South | Jan 26 2024 15:48 utc | 2
I don’t know. That’s what scares me. I have no faith in the Biden administration to do the right thing and the 25 governors are tired of the FedGov failing to enforce the law of the land are not willing to back down in the need to restrict illegal immigration. I don’t see any effort at conversations between the two parties. I am reminded of the quote from the movie Hunt for Red October by (fictional) Admiral Painter: “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
Posted by: mtw | Jan 26 2024 16:06 utc | 5
Snapchat’s end-to-end encryption and Briefgeheimnis
The spam filter again blocked my attempt to post. Luckily b has manually approved my previous attempt to post on the topic in the older open thread. See here.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 16:07 utc | 6
I read commentary last autumn which connected this orchestrated migration ( adverts are placed worldwide by cartels who then funnel people into Mexico and then into the southern border of US) to banking and money laundering.
Simple version. If international banks did not wash the money the cartels extract from migrants, then the flow of immigration would slow as that would reduce the cartels to holding their extorted cash in armed bunkers. They would then probably prey on each other, raiding each other’s cash stashes, slowing their game.
What is the relationship between the labour market, level of wages paid, and a reserve army of illegal immigrant workers, easily exploited? Plus they provide a potential reserve army of exploitable mercenaries to serve various state and private interests. So some corporate interests, some state interests and some private interests (exploitable cheap domestic labor) seek this inflow? States immediately responsible for the quality of life of their people to whom they are more directly responsible than the central misgovernment are saying, enough.
I don’t remember the source of the banking money laundering article. Perhaps Consortiumnews.
Posted by: suzan | Jan 26 2024 16:20 utc | 7
Posted by: suzan | Jan 26 2024 16:20 utc | 6
………………..
Corporates involved no doubt, mainly by NGO fronts, but this is a tactic designed to collapse US society from within, not dick around with wage levels. Americans need to wake up.
Governor of Oklahoma is asked whether there might be a “force on force” conflict between Gov. Greg Abbott’s Texas National Guard and federal border officials.
If America breaks apart what would it look like? Helpful website for creating a map: https://divorcethenation.com/
Posted by: sweeps | Jan 26 2024 17:12 utc | 9
Posted by: mtw | Jan 26 2024 15:47 utc | 1
There will be no civil war. The reasonable part of the – still white – majority population will be pushed further and further against the wall to submit to any insanity and they will do just that. They did so in 2020 when they accepted the stolen election and they did so under the Covid restrictions and vaccination mandates.
And for a civil war to begin you always need parts of the military to support such a conflict from the other side as well. But there is no split in the military and there won’t be. No matter what atrocities DC will command against the population – they will obey. Just look at the brass and what’s inside those uniforms.
Like in the army all of the opposing voices were weeded out in the police as well and the remainders are willing executioners just “following orders”. Look at the FBI, ATF and now the up-gunned IRS. When the orders come they will kill you and your family. Doesn’t matter if they lock you up without due process, burn your place down or shoot you dead.
Just look how that black thug in uniform mudered Ashley Babbit in DC on Jan 6th. THAT’s the ONLY kind of reaction you’re going to see from ALL of these people wearing a uniform. Your nation has been stolen from you. But it was broken a long time ago and cannot be repaired at this point.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.
Posted by: Zed’sDead | Jan 26 2024 17:13 utc | 10
The border is nothing but distraction.
Why did Gov. Abbott wait till an election year to notice the open border? Why did he send immigrants deep into the interior on busses as retarded conservatives laughed at the thought of the yankees suffering these economic refugees? Never mind the effect this has on the average person who has unbeknownst to himself forfeited any say in his government to this theater of the absurd.
Does Abbott and the south have what it takes to usher in a balkanization movement to gut the federal beast? As long as football games don’t intersect, maybe. But the thought of no homoerotic tribalism replete with black men bearing their midriffs for us is too much of a cross to bear.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 26 2024 17:17 utc | 11
“Russia needs to go back to doing what Russia is good at. Selling cheap oil and gas to the West so we can keep making all the good stuff and further humanity.’
Posted by: Neld | Jan 26 2024 15:54 utc | 3
Russia has hypersonic missiles, the US does not, yet the “West makes all the good stuff.
Really?
You are utterly -Trigger Warning- retarded: you contradicted yourself in the same sentence. I can’t see anyone paying for dross like that.
mtw (15h47 GMT) […hope and pray that someone with sanity in the Federal government takes actions to stand down from this impasse over Texas. Is illegal immigration the hill the Democrats want to die on?…]
Both of your political parties, like the mainstream parties in the rest of the `west`, go through the motions and mouth the words of concern about `illegal immigration` while quietly welcoming and facilitating it, thank you very much. It provides a loyal base of residents (whether/when they become citizens and whether/when they become enfranchised). Illegals are least likely to rock the boat and most likely to be thankful for morsels like handouts, charity support, bureaucratic blind-eye-turning. If it comes to war, these residents are most likely to volunteer and provide handy canon fodder. Increasingly now, another cause for celebration by these clandestine enablers… the falling trends in fertility and desire for `starting a family` among the educated and disillusioned citizenry in the developed countries.
Posted by: petra | Jan 26 2024 17:22 utc | 13
https://divorcethenation.com?mymap=25
(So far 62 million people live in US states with governors who have shown willingness to deploy troops or militia at the Texas-Mexico border in conflict with the federal government agents)
OK: Appearing on conservative-leaning network Newsmax, Stitt described the situation in Texas as a “powder keg worth of tension,” insisting “we certainly stand with Texas on the right to defend themselves.” He added: “You’ve got Oklahoma and Florida and Tennessee, and you’ve got all these other states that would send our National Guard to help and to support the efforts of Governor Abbott because every state is a border state.”
TN: Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee, who’s sent hundreds of National Guard troops to the border over the last three years, said, “we will continue to offer Texas our strong support. States are playing a powerful role in national security while the federal government fails to act.”
FL: Gov. DeSantis addressed the possibility of the State Guard being sent to assist Texas with immigration issues at the Mexican boarder during a news conference in Central Florida on Friday. “I think that what’s happening in Texas is not just the Texas issue. It’s an American issue,” DeSantis said. “I think it’s good policy to be able to allow us to fulfill requests from other states with either the National Guard or the State Guard.
Posted by: sweeps | Jan 26 2024 17:45 utc | 14
US Civil War timeline
As an American, I have never seen the horrifying prospect of civil war closer than I have seen it today.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 26 2024 15:47 utc | 1
I (with a few others) maintain a web site at A Closer Look On Syria. Generally we keep record of events as they happen. We also have some pages on future events. Recently I have stopped updating the page on World War 3, as it has turned into a current event. There is also a page on the second US Civil War, that I have been maintaining from 2017. See:
US Civil War – A Closer Look On Syria
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 17:46 utc | 15
USA bombs NS2, Germany builds expensive LNG terminals. Russia delivers gas over 50 years, US won’t deliver for 50 weeks
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/26/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-temporary-pause-on-pending-approvals-of-liquefied-natural-gas-exports/
As a east German I find this extremely amusing
Posted by: Ali | Jan 26 2024 17:48 utc | 16
How far do you think Texas is willing to go with the border dispute with the Federal government? What will be the consequences thereof?
Posted by: Down South | Jan 26 2024 15:48 utc | 2
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It is not a dispute with the Federal Government. It is a dispute with the Biden Administration.
There has never been a weaker president than Joe Biden.
Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 17:59 utc | 17
Zed’s Dead is a reactionary ideologue who presents nothing much logical in his facile statements. He like the entire Trump legal team has no evidence the election was stolen. Sixty court cases thrown out due to lack of any evidence while the Orange Blunder persisted with the lie. Also, again showing his limitations he prattles on with his risible nonsense about vaccinations as he sounds like another tedious scientific illiterate bore with a silly opinion. Truly pathetic commentary only exposes stupidity and ignroance.
Posted by: Chris Greene | Jan 26 2024 18:01 utc | 18
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1750935245107442096
BREAKING:
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There are reports that the Biden administration is now threatening military action against the Texas National Guard unless they remove the National Guard from the border by 1 pm EST!
Posted by: wtf | Jan 26 2024 18:02 utc | 19
Re American civil war- to look at and single event and say that won’t cause a war is missing the picture. It will be an accumulation of causes. US is at the point any extra causes puts it on the brink. Looking at the map of states backing Texas, it is rural conservatism vs the woke yuppies. That is the major divide in the US.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 18:02 utc | 20
There are reports that the Biden administration is now threatening military action against the Texas National Guard unless they remove the National Guard from the border by 1 pm EST!
Posted by: wtf | Jan 26 2024 18:02 utc | 18
Shares in a popcorn factory may well be a good investment if made quickly. I will cheer both sides until there is only one man standing. Us would then no longer be a threat to the world.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 18:08 utc | 21
Shoot the next 50 people who ILLEGALLY cross the border (i.e., invade the USA). Keep shooting until the invasion stops. Everything else is words and posturing…
“The border is nothing but distraction.
Why did Gov. Abbott wait till an election year to notice the open border? Why did he send immigrants deep into the interior on busses as retarded conservatives laughed at the thought of the yankees suffering these economic refugees? Never mind the effect this has on the average person who has unbeknownst to himself forfeited any say in his government to this theater of the absurd…..”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 26 2024 17:17 utc | 10
I don’t live near the border, so it is not a distraction for me. Indeed, the International Court ruling in the genocide case against Israel is front and center in my mind. But I can answer your first question, in that the timing for this action on the part of Texas’ governor is appropriate.
I myself, way back in the day, happened to be in a very large group of would be citizens on an election year. We were one thousand all told, and all, with the exception of myself and one Russian lady sitting beside me, were from south of the border. And as we exited the hall, there were the tables to sign up party affiliation. It was just before Bill Clinton’s second term, so most would have been eager (as I foolishly was) to vote for the president who had offered and then given them US citizenship.
I will leave others to tell what is presently happening and has been happening at both the Texas border and the New Mexico border. I have nothing against our Governor in New Mexico, but I don’t follow politics; I just hear the rumors. And I wouldn’t call myself a conservative, but I also would not call any such retarded. That’s as wrongheaded as was whoever blasted the national anthem at much much more than full volume at us back in that enormous hall as we patrotically stood at attention. I don’t think my eardrums have ever recovered from that unwelcoming onslaught — me, who attended Francis Scott Key’s alma mater as a student! (Ironic that, I’ve always thought.)
That was a theatre of the absurd if you like, Nemesiscalling. I’m really ashamed of how I voted, given that it was the beginning of the end of the unravelling of Constitutional adherence. You could well have called me retarded then; you would have been within your rights as a citizen to do so.
Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2024 18:33 utc | 23
@23 juliania
Thx as always for your thoughtful replies.
Here is a link to a great unz article yesterday categorizing and defining the various braches of conservative rather presciently as the book in question was written 30 years ago.
But the prophecy of the book has come true and a movement being born as we speak (more or less the Donald Trump-phenomenon-sans Trump) that will finally give a hard look at what Paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot have been bleating about for decades. Unfortunately, the situation is at such a point that disgusting racism has supplanted the appeal to reason of a once-85% white-European country pointing to the obvious that there must be a reason why the Federal gov’t is allowing this to occur – the reason being that our white European heritage detests overhanded government and we are far less malleable than mestizos, blacks, etc..
The only way that this replacement can occur or could occur was with an appeal to the other two retarded, conservative worldviews that the article describes: the economic conservative and the moral ones. Offshoring was sold because it created a massive surge of white collar employment and this was seen as an economic good. Interventionism abroad was done because America was fundamentally good and we had a “right to protect.” All of this is bullshit as you and other astute individuals here understand completely well.
Now what is left is the Paleoconservative question of “inwardlookingness” that is anaethma to the faux-conservatives aforementioned that got us here.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 26 2024 19:32 utc | 24
The Houthis hit a British oil tanker SE of Yemen. It’s now on fire.
https://t.me/s/llordofwar
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 26 2024 19:34 utc | 25
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1750961012407194094
Biden Admin Sells Federal Helium Reserve, Threatening US Industry & National Security
The US government is selling off the Federal Helium Reserve, which is a large subterranean stockpile located in Amarillo, Texas.
The Helium stockpile provides up to 30% of the nation’s reserves of this rare element with critical purposes for the medical field, industrial manufacturing, and national security.
The top bidder will own about 425 miles of pipelines spanning Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma, as well as around 1 billion cubic feet of the only element on Earth cold enough to make an MRI machine operate.
Posted by: guest | Jan 26 2024 19:45 utc | 26
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 17:46 utc | 15
Thank you for your Civil War link. From one of the articles from July 2020 during the BLM riots used to destabilize the country before the upcoming elections:
New Intel: Communist China providing automatic weapons to Antifa, Black Lives Matter… some stored in democrat-run government buildings including East End Complex Capitol building in Sacramento – Block 174
07/03/2020 / By Mike Adams
We have bombshell new intel to share with you today that connects some recent dots on the emerging violence (and civil war attempt) from Black Lives Matter, the militant terrorism wing of the Democrat party.
Summary of what you’ll find in this article:
Communist China is supplying full auto AR-15 “mods” to Black Lives Matter militants in America, and a shipment was recently interdicted by Customer and Border Protection (CBP).
California Gov. Newsom is involved in a trillion-dollar money laundering operation with communist China to keep him in power. He’s funneling taxpayer money to China, and they are laundering it and funneling money back to him. (See Los Angeles Times link below.)
Using the laundered money, Gov. Newsom is stockpiling automatic weapons, ammunition and gold in the underground storage complex at 1616 Capitol Ave. in Sacramento, the East End Complex building – block 174. (Sourced from a former employee who worked there.)
Gov. Newsom is plotting with China to have communist troops invade America (via California and other states) and to overrun and occupy the United States, turning it over to communist Chinese rule.
China’s EMP weapons, developed using technology stolen from the USA, are planned to be the first wave “Pearl Harbor” event that sets it all off. (Official report to the White House, see link below, or visit https://emptaskforce.us ).
Obama helped set up a civilian military force using Operation Fast and Furious gun smuggling to arm the narcos. (Full timeline link below.)
Those same narcos are now trained by communist Chinese military instructors and are prepared to invade America with the aid of heavy weapons. (DHS sources via Hodges, link below.)
The civil war America is facing won’t be lightly-armed “soy boys,” but rather heavily armed, full-auto wielding Black Lives Matter militants, Mexican narco gangs and communist Chinese troops operating under the protection of Gov. Newsom.
Hundreds of companies across corporate America are now directly funding or overtly supporting Black Lives Matter terrorists as part of this civil war effort to destroy America. See the full list of 269 companies here [link].
https://www.terrorism.news/2020-07-03-communist-china-providing-automatic-weapons-to-antifa-black-lives-matter.html
I have no idea how accurate any of this is, but it was clear at the time that this was organized/coordinated. Whether or not the ‘Chinese communist government’ was involved as described, they would no doubt be working with networks within the US, the real movers and shakers, who unfortunately are not described.
The illegal influx of 10,000 mostly single, young adult males in the past few years is going to factor into upcoming civic unrest in this election year except chances are it will make the BLM events look like a practice run. They may be used to somehow justify a martial law crackdown against the FBI’s oft-proclaimed Nr 1 threat: ‘white supremacists’ aka ordinary middle class Americans voting for reform.
Now, finally, there is more hooting and hollering about the border, and Texas’s dispute with the Federales may or may not prove significant, but a ginormous illegal influx has already taken place, opaquely organized of course, the fruits of which are now ready to ripen whether or not they belatedly close the barn door.
Biden blocks Texas LNG exports
Poor Europe:
- Biden blocks Texas LNG exports.
- Ukraine blew up Baltic LNG terminal in Ust-Luga, Russia.
- Yemen blocks UAE shipments to Europe via Red Sea.
- Ukraine ended Russian gas transit on January 1, 2024.
- Biden blew up Nord Stream 1 & 2.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 20:18 utc | 28
Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 20:18 utc | 28
I believe a gas line also runs through Poland which was blocked by Poland.
I wonder though if blocking the Texas LNG exports has more to do with current domestic issues – Feds vs Texas.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 20:26 utc | 29
Correction on Ukraine gas transit
4. Ukraine ended Russian gas transit on January 1, 2024.
I was wrong. Transit of Russian natural gas through Ukraine will continue until the end of 2024. See this TASS article from Yesterday.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 20:29 utc | 30
Posted by: Chris Greene | Jan 26 2024 18:01 utc | 18
Ah, thank you for the fun posting! I had a hearty laugh from the bottom of my heart!
But, Chris Greene, you should really set a sarcasm-marker or else some of the barflies here think you’ve actually mistaken this place for the NYT. You know, outside of your safe space and into reality where there’s no safety net. And, as most of the people here know reality has a VERY reactionary tendency!
Anyway, I wouldn’t vote for Trump if a shotgun was pointed to my head. The US are bust and nobody can and will fix this place in our lifetime. The establishment (to which Trump belongs btw) wants to play the globalist game for a while longer (their WEF-front has made it very clear) and the “left” think they can have their version of communism on earth by following that bunch. Well, good luck with that!
The only thing I regret is sitting a bit closer to the center of this circus. And since the clowns are already running the show we’re getting sprayed with water continuously and it’s not funny.
But maybe NIST can show us a model that proves that the elections were straight and this is all just a bad dream…
Posted by: Zed’sDead | Jan 26 2024 20:32 utc | 31
Ghost of Zanon | Jan 26 2024 19:34 utc | 25
Where the strikes against shipping are occurring is I think the most interesting aspect of all that is currently occurring. Majority of incidences are in the gulf of Aden and the narrow straight with very few in the Red Sea bordering Ansar Allah held coastline. Somalia is also in this somewhere. But the question is – who controls south Yemen that borders on the Gulf of Aden? UAE?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 20:34 utc | 32
I may be wrong, but I believe that this gas line alone is enough for Germany to go into the Winter of 24-5 with full reserves. But the other items, together, are alarming. There is a definite thrust to crumpling the West, though the who’s, how’s and why’s are hard to discern. Quite possibly this is mass institutional managerial class stupidity, but one would expect stupidity to sometimes get things right, even inadvertently, but no, everything is consistently going wrong.
My guess is that Biden’s contribution is less about serving US national interests (he has already almost emptied the Strategic Oil reserves for no reason, including making sales to Russia I believe) and more about further damaging Europe.
In the West, looks like events may well turn explosively destructive this year one way or another.
Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 20:29 utc | 30
Re Ukraine gas transit. I* believe one infeed line was stopped by Ukraine, halving the amount of gas transiting through the main line that leaves Ukraine.
Two infeeds, one in I think Donetsk oblast, the other through Luhansk? The line through Luhansk was stopped, Ukraine saying that being due to a compressor station there was outside their control regardless of the fact the compressor station continued to operate..
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 20:40 utc | 34
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1750970248671731999
Senior Border Patrol official says they stand tall with Texas and have “no plans” to take down razor wire from the southern border.
America stands with Texas.
According to Fox News, a Border Patrol official told them that their relationship with Texas “remains strong.”
“The relationship between Border Patrol, Texas DPS, & TMD remains strong… Bottom line: Border Patrol has no plans to remove infrastructure (c-wire) placed by Texas along the border. Our posture remains the same,” @GriffJenkins
reported.
The Border Patrol Union also chimed in.
“Rank-and-file BP agents appreciate and respect what TX has been doing to defend their state in the midst of this catastrophe that the Biden Admin has unleashed on America.”
Posted by: guest | Jan 26 2024 20:41 utc | 35
Scorpion | Jan 26 2024 20:37 utc | 33
With all Germany’s energy intensive industry closed down, the country’s gas requirements will be greatly reduced.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 20:47 utc | 36
What is happening right now in Texas is quite interesting. As it was already pointed in above posts why now, and not 6 months ago or 1 year. Is this to provoke martial law in US or unrest during election or a move to prevent coming elections from being stolen or something else like prevention of remotely hired crime groups from entering US at purpose to create unrest during elections? Clearly, timing is always important. I don’t beleive in coincidence. It is either preventive move against something going happened or move to achieve its own goals. The LNG shipment freeze authorized by Biden few days ago did hit Texas gas exporters and can be regarded as element of internal fight going on in US.
Posted by: asehi | Jan 26 2024 21:24 utc | 37
British oil tanker MARLIN LUANDA has been hit by a missile and is on fire.
https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1750959062315946361
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 26 2024 21:35 utc | 38
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 26 2024 19:32 utc | 24
Much of that I couldn’t understand, NemesisCalling, but you won’t find a lot of ‘white European heritage’ in New Mexico, thank goodness, as the Anglos(including me) are of late arrival historically speaking. We are multicultural and I love it that the pueblos (native) own a lot of land hereabouts, keeps it beautiful. All history is fraught with turmoil, and change is not always welcome. This country, the US, HAS changed since I sailed in under the Golden Gate, and hopefully it is going to change again. For the better.
There are changes now, internationally speaking, but there’s not much I can do about that. Being from a small country helps keep me humble – we can’t throw our weight around and that’s a good thing. I’m what a friend of my mother used to call an ‘odd ode’ and laugh – not at me but at some old codger living down the street – that’s me now. And this country was good to me for the most part, growing up, good schools, raising a family. So, no prognostications – not that I don’t enjoy reading them from others here. I’m an odd ode that loves to read, always have.
And off to the library I’m headed, for a trundlerful of books!
Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2024 22:08 utc | 39
Posted by: Zed’sDead | Jan 26 2024 17:13 utc | 10
Things won’t happen until there is pain at the dinner table.
Before that happens, the Zionist occupier government will do whatever it wants.
After that happens, anything happens.
You sound like a demoralization shill, TBH.
I hope you enjoy what’s to come in the most heavily armed country in the history of the planet.
Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 26 2024 22:42 utc | 40
Re: Ukraine gas transit
I believe one infeed line was stopped by Ukraine, halving the amount of gas transiting through the main line that leaves Ukraine.
Two infeeds, one in I think Donetsk oblast, the other through Luhansk? The line through Luhansk was stopped, Ukraine saying that being due to a compressor station there was outside their control regardless of the fact the compressor station continued to operate.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 20:40 utc | 34
When Ukraine first stopped the Lugansk infeed line in May of 2022, it was because the Sokhranivka gas metering station and the Novopskov compressor station were under “Russian” / LPR control.
There is also one compressor station in Spirne (Спірне) on the border of LPR and DPR. It has been right on the front line since the Ukrainian Kharkov counteroffensive. The station has now been completely destroyed. I thought the destruction of this station might also effect gas supplies to Europe, so I checked the map. I see that there is also another gas pipeline west from Novopskov that could in theory supply gas to Europe.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 26 2024 22:59 utc | 41
@39 juliania
Sorry about the readibility. Was on my lunch break and sometimes my mind races after an idea. In this case it was that the questions of paleoconservatism are coming to the front after decades of hostile repression as a result of the U.S. being top-Dawg and by the elite’s ability to buy the population’s approval.
The DJT-phenomenon, in my mind, is really these questions appearing or reappearing as new as a result of empire’s inability to stifle this power, or spirit that is reemerging.
It was always a devil’s bargain with Trump because even if he was going to be a good lad for the MIC, his method of wooing the population was in reality fraught with peril, like kindling on an unquenchable ember. So you can have a DJT-phenomenon regardless of the Don’s appearance in such a happening. Iow, the genie is out of the bottle.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 26 2024 23:19 utc | 42
We have bombshell new intel to share with you today that connects some recent dots on the emerging violence (and civil war attempt) from Black Lives Matter, the militant terrorism wing of the Democrat party
Communist China is supplying full auto AR-15 “mods” to Black Lives Matter militants in America, and a shipment was recently interdicted by Customer and Border Protection (CBP).
California Gov. Newsom is involved in a trillion-dollar money laundering operation with communist China to keep him in power. He’s funneling taxpayer money to China, and they are laundering it and funneling money back to him. (See Los Angeles Times link below.)
Using the laundered money, Gov. Newsom is stockpiling automatic weapons, ammunition and gold in the underground storage complex at 1616 Capitol Ave. in Sacramento, the East End Complex building – block 174. (Sourced from a former employee who worked there.)
Gov. Newsom is plotting with China to have communist troops invade America (via California and other states) and to overrun and occupy the United States, turning it over to communist Chinese rule.
China’s EMP weapons, developed using technology stolen from the USA, are planned to be the first wave “Pearl Harbor” event that sets it all off. (Official report to the White House, see link below, or visit https://emptaskforce.us ).
Obama helped set up a civilian military force using Operation Fast and Furious gun smuggling to arm the narcos. (Full timeline link below.)
Those same narcos are now trained by communist Chinese military instructors and are prepared to invade America with the aid of heavy weapons. (DHS sources via Hodges, link below.)
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 26 2024 20:05 utc | 27
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Such patently obvious BS,
what the hell is this clown smoking ?
The bombshell here is this..
Why nobody is challenging this lying piece of shit ?
How many times must he be exposed , why is this lying piece of shit still enjoying a cult following here ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 2:26 utc | 43
Maybe the Biden administration is doing something at least somewhat intelligent.
Doing nothing.
Don’t cut razor wire.
Don’t nationalize the Texas National Guard.
Don’t force a showdown.
Do nothing.
Blame it on Congress not passing revised border legislation (What’s wrong with current law? Never mind that.).
Sooner or later, everybody has to go home. OK National Guard. Other state’s troopers. Trucker convoys. FBI informants.
The resistance energy will be spent. And of course names will be collected from those who participated.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 2:29 utc | 44
The bombshell here is this..
Why nobody is challenging this lying piece of sh*t ?
How many times must he be exposed , why is this lying piece of sh*t still enjoying a cult following here ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 2:26 utc | 43
The fact that thousands upon thousands of illegals (including people of Chinese descent) have been let in to the US without vetting and without control opens the door for all sorts of conspiracy theories because anything is theoretically possible no matter how unlikely we may consider the conspiracy theory to be or how little proof there is of the assertions.
That is one of the reasons why polls show illegal immigration to be the current most hot button topic in the election. Will it stay there? No idea.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 2:37 utc | 45
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 2:37 utc | 45
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anybody who believe PRC would invade USAss is a fucking moron.
Are u one ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 2:39 utc | 46
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 26 2024 20:05 utc | 27
That web page by Petri Krohn contains a few hundred links. The word “China” appears exactly once on that page, which is the link your post is about.
Your redditoid mission to cast China in a negative light in any context is transparent.
Posted by: Another Brother Ma | Jan 27 2024 2:44 utc | 47
anybody who believe PRC would invade USAss is a fucking moron.
Are u one ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 2:39 utc | 46
I don’t think I am. If you read my response carefully, I didn’t put ANY credibility on the Chinese invasion allegations. I just pointed out that unbridled illegal immigration opens the door to all sorts of conspiracy theories because you don’t know for sure who has been let in to the country and that uncertainty allows those with an agenda to come up with conspiracy theories aligning with said agenda.
The original article referenced was from 2020, more aligned with that election than the current one.
I don’t think China is stupid enough to invade the US. They play the long game and do it well.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 2:53 utc | 48
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 2:53 utc | 48
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that clown suggests PRC is orchestrating these WMM into USAss.
Show proof or scorpion is a fucking liar.
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:00 utc | 49
@Scorpion | Jan 26 2024 20:05 utc | 27
https://www.terrorism.news/2020-07-03-communist-china-providing-automatic-weapons-to-antifa-black-lives-matter.html
I have no idea how accurate any of this is, but it was clear at the time that this was organized/coordinated. Whether or not the ‘Chinese communist government’ was involved as described, they would no doubt be working with networks within the US, the real movers and shakers, who unfortunately are not described.
Mike Adams of Natural News is not a reliable source for anything — even though he has been right on a number of issues.
I have included the article not for the stated facts, but for the delusional tone. It is precisely this paranoid and delusional thinking that is widespread in the US that I see as a precursor to civil war. People on both sides have lost touch with reality. This one aspect my page tries to demonstrate.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 27 2024 3:01 utc | 50
Anybody else confused about recent changes in South America, e.g., Argentina, Ecuador? I found this Strategic Culture article by Eduardo Vasco does a nice job of connecting the dots (although I cannot vouch for accuracy):
A Silent Continental Coup Carried Out by the U.S. Is Underway
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jan 27 2024 3:10 utc | 51
“that clown suggests PRC is orchestrating these WMM into USAss.
Show proof or scorpion is a fucking liar.
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:00 utc | 49”
It’s not up to me to prove whether anyone is a liar or not. All I can do is testify to the truth that I know. All I did was point out the role illegal immigration is feeding into conspiracy theories (like was posted).
“Mike Adams of Natural News is not a reliable source for anything — even though he has been right on a number of issues.
I have included the article not for the stated facts, but for the delusional tone. It is precisely this paranoid and delusional thinking that is widespread in the US that I see as a precursor to civil war. People on both sides have lost touch with reality. This one aspect my page tries to demonstrate.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 27 2024 3:01 utc | 50”
This is a good point. I am living in a powder keg (America) that is being heated up and a civil war breaking out in a heavily armed country is not my idea of what I want my country to devolve into.
The unbridled immigration is. IMHO, fuel on the fire under the powder keg. I believe the vast majority of illegals are desperate hardworking people seeking a better life in America. Some are likely to be criminals. Who exactly are they all? We have NO IDEA. That’s a problem.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 3:12 utc | 52
Mike Adams of Natural News is not a reliable source for anything — even though he has been right on a number of issues.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 27 2024 3:01 utc | 50
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Thats typical of many ‘alt media’ these days,
limited handouts, get something right to garner some street cred, then dosing out sugar coated poison.
PS
I didnt notice the scorpion is quoting you !
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:16 utc | 53
It’s not up to me to prove whether anyone is a liar or not.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 3:12 utc | 52
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Like I say, how many times must the scorpion be exposed as a liar ?
Im still waiting for the lying pos to substantiate the following…
China is anti religions
CPC using brutal police tactics to intimidate its citizens
denk is a serial liar
Now he’s digging a deeper hole for himself with this bombshell [sic]
since he’s playing dumb, may be one of his disciples would care to comment ?
How about that yapping chiwawa who threatens to break up people’s bones ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:26 utc | 54
Instead of name calling, I think it’s better to refute illogical points that are being alleged as possible facts.
A Chinese invasion with a BLM vanguard would be the ONE thing that would get Red and Blue states to come together. Even inner city gangs would rise up knowing that their existence under Chinese rule would be…non-existent. US troops even if ordered to stand down by a treacherous government would fight. And how could the long supply chain from the PRC be maintained against the one fairly effective force the US military has (submarines)? God knows how many gun nuts would turn into partisans. That’s not even mention the nukes (at least those that still work). The basic premise doesn’t make sense.
I’ve never been to China so I can’t comment on the reality there. Many I have read who live there or have been there speak well of it, that’s all I know.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 3:46 utc | 55
nstead of name calling, I think it’s better to refute illogical points that are being alleged as possible facts.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 3:46 utc | 55
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Name calling, u mean ad hominen ?
BS
I believe in calling a spade a spade,
scorpion is a proven serial liar.
Would u wanna challenge that ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:56 utc | 56
“Hu Shuli, a renowned Chinese journalist, has become a formidable Xi opposition force. During the last week of 2023, “the most dangerous woman in China,” published two articles that openly challenged Xi Jinping. Her writings were quickly removed, and the content of her social media account was deleted. On January 4th, she started to hint at her anticipated exile. Her media outlet published another explosive report 10 days later. Who is Hu Shuli? And why does she have the courage to publicly oppose the CCP leader?”
A Chinese Seymour Hersh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVIcvyCcaw4
Posted by: Antonym | Jan 27 2024 3:59 utc | 57
Name calling, u mean ad hominen ?
BS
I believe in calling a spade a spade,
scorpion is a proven serial liar.
Would u wanna challenge that ?
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 3:56 utc | 56
Yes, I agree, I believe it is ad hominem.
You can just call someone a liar, or provide convincing arguments that show that someone is a liar.
Which do you think is more effective?
I’m not defending anyone. I’m just remembering what b told us to do in HIS rules for HIS forum.
Posted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 4:05 utc | 58
I’m not defending anyone.
osted by: mtw | Jan 27 2024 4:05 utc | 58
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U didnt challenge his patent BS
EVEN parroting the part about Chinese WMM,
I standby what I say
scorpion is a serial lying pos
thats a fact
Why is that upsetting your more than the scorpions’ cow dung ?
u are right of course this is B’s SITE,
iM NOT contravening b’s admonition, cuz
Im helping b to do house cleaning .
I rest my case
signing off
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 4:21 utc | 59
January 22, 2024: “The Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Ford Foundation and the MacArthur Foundation together donated about $10.2 million directly to the Chinese government and to organizations headed by top-ranking CCP members, according to tax disclosures.”
https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/22/chinese-government-charities-us-funding/
They get US tax exemption as charities to subsidize rich CPC top families. WEF, wef, waf, waf.
Posted by: Antonym | Jan 27 2024 5:41 utc | 61
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 2:26 utc | 43
Thanks and the thread goes … I thought it was Godzilla myself, he invades every time he gets enough rads and Hollywood is out of ideas
Posted by: Hankster | Jan 27 2024 5:58 utc | 62
Scorpion | Jan 26 2024 20:05 utc | 27
That web page by Petri Krohn contains a few hundred links.
The word “China” appears exactly once on that page, which is the link your post is about.
Your redditoid mission to cast China in a negative light in any context is transparent.
Posted by: Another Brother Ma | Jan 27 2024 2:44 utc | 47
My thought too when I saw Scorpion’s post.
@ mtw | Jan 27 2024 4:05 utc | 58
Bashing China, especially the CPC, is so transparently part of Scorpion’s agenda that to point it out can not possibly be taken as ad hominem. Denk has provided many, many examples over the course of Scorpion’s time here.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 27 2024 6:01 utc | 63
@ waynorinorway | Jan 27 2024 6:01 utc | 63 about Scorpion
At least he is not fawning over monarchy recently that I have skimmed.
And I can’t remember him ever having a bad word for private property/finance/inheritance compared to the China public cast on those things which he just doesn’t trust.
He used to be the thread hogger but has competition now….I am thinking about how to shame those folks and another commenter gave me a code script starting point but I haven’t coded in years….we will see. I need to upgrade my own web site that I haven’t touched in probably 10 years or so and need to invest the time in ramping back up enough to do what I want to do……I was a techie for work and not sure how much I want to be a techie for play/retirement.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 27 2024 7:02 utc | 64
@ psychohistorian | Jan 27 2024 7:02 utc | 64
“At least he is not fawning over monarchy recently”
Right, but claiming facts are just opinions opens the door to ridiculous claims.
E.g. “socialism leads to fascism”. Imo, he’s not an asset to MoA.
“He used to be the thread hogger but has competition now”
I saw the code script posts but don’t think much can be done.
Hogs have no shame, that’s how they got to be hogs.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 27 2024 7:31 utc | 65
Ah ha ha ha ha! Oh my sides!
Using the laundered money, Gov. Newsom is stockpiling automatic weapons, ammunition and gold in the underground storage complex at 1616 Capitol Ave. in Sacramento, the East End Complex building – block 174. (Sourced from a former employee who worked there.)
Hoarding automatic weapons, ammo, and gold everybody! The state governor, who has a state national guard to use, is hoarding an armory! In a room! By the state capitol! With a pile of gold too! — because insurrection budgets run on the gold standard, y’know!
Oh my, this is paranoid delusional sounding “confession through projection”. This Mike Adams of Natural News sounds like a hoot and a half. Does he also sell male vitality supplements, Meals Ready to Eat, and gold coins (now .9999 pure! that’s four nines!) commercials to supplement his site?
“Good gawd, not hoarding guns and ammo! What’s next, he’ll hand it off to the ChiComs!? Hoarding guns, gold, and ammo is for me, not thee!”
Posted by: titmouse | Jan 27 2024 10:24 utc | 66
Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 26 2024 22:42 utc | 40
> Things won’t happen until there is pain at the dinner table.
How much longer do you want to wait? They’ve been heating up the pot quite a lot in the last 8 years and the frog still hasn’t jumped out of the water.
> Before that happens, the Zionist occupier government will do whatever it wants.
The Zionists are not “leading” the US they’re the front behind which the establishment is hiding. Until 1945 they never cared about the jews, the jewish religion etc. Quite the contrary. Not a single American bomb was ever dropped on Auschwitz. But once the victim status of the jewish people could be used to commit ANY crime in the book things changed. Suddenly “everybody” in the upper crust of the United States “remembered” his jewish origins. And now it’s a habit and the whole state of Israel being a close ally is based on it. Point towards the Holocaust, then demand victim status and commit another crime. The end of Israel will not be the Arabs coming to rout them but the Americans no longer needing them as an excuse.
> You sound like a demoralization shill, TBH.
Shill for what? For the evil fascists from the right that murdered 3+ million people in Iraq and Afghanistan? Or the other bunch of evil fascists that currently murder yet another bunch of women and children in the Middle East?
> I hope you enjoy what’s to come in the most heavily armed country in the history of the planet.
Yeah, I sure will. First they will come for every registered gun owner and then every gun club and militia will be next on the list. And don’t think a civil war will start with half of the population – RIGHT IN YOUR MIDDLE – wanting to end YOU for wrong think. On the contrary! Members of your own family may even help them. Just think about those traitorous sons and daughters that betrayed their own parents to the police and FBI for being “MAGA-extremists” after Jan 6th! Ever wondered what became of those families? Most idiots forgave their offspring believing they were just “young and inexperienced”. No, they were thoroughly indoctrinated and will do it again and again. And you think such a split and twisted people will rise up against this state? Wake up!
Only street gangs and criminals (and agent provocateurs) are supposed to own guns in the future because this fascist state needs them armed for you to come and plead for its help (look at the UK if you don’t believe me). We Europeans had this shit going since the 19th century. Where the state spied on the middle class in the cities at every corner – while you couldn’t even travel parts of the country without getting robbed by highwaymen. Read up on Austria under Metternich if you don’t believe me.
Cheers!
Posted by: Zed’sDead | Jan 27 2024 12:30 utc | 67
Re the pop…
The idea that China supporting armed insurrection anywhere is for nincompoop, never mind tryhing it in USAss of all places.
OMFG
An idea so bizarre not even the CIA/MI6 assholes dare to dream up !
Really?
Thats exactly how FUKUSA orchestrated the bloodbath in Indon, 1965 !
The Foreign Office replied: “We certainly do not exclude any unattributable propaganda or psywar [psychological warfare] activities which would contribute to weakening the PKI permanently. We therefore agree with the [above] recommendation… Suitable propaganda themes might be… Chinese interference in particular arms shipments; PKI subverting Indonesia as agents of foreign communists”.
U.S. officials were particularly interested in linking the September 30th plotters to Beijing. They helped to spread stories about China’s alleged involvement and reported on caches of weapons purportedly “discovered” by the Indonesian army with the hammer and sickle conveniently stamped on them.
“We have bonanza chance to nail chicoms on disastrous events in Indonesia,
https://monthlyreview.org/2015/12/01/the-united-states-and-the-19651966-mass-murders-in-indonesia/
Tip of an iceberg.
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 13:09 utc | 68
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 4:21 utc | 59
You are out of control. You aggressive, blunt prose only illustrates your lack of subtlety, charm or civility.
kindly please ensconce your arguments in a civil form or shut the fuck up.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 27 2024 13:11 utc | 69
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I dont ask anybody to fuck off, not even scorpion the pop.
I simply shoot down his BS and expose the liar that he is.
Are u able to do that ?
Try challenging my points , not my style dummy
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 13:23 utc | 70
A Silent Continental Coup Carried Out by the U.S. Is Underway
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jan 27 2024 3:10 utc | 51
Good catch, Farm ecologist. Strategic Culture has added two latino writers whom I had never heard of: Lucas Leiroz, a young Brazilian, and Eduardo Vasco the one you linked to. Both impress me.
The border crisis reveals the massive metastatic outbreak of the terminal imperial demise: the peons living south of the border are fleeing for their lives because the feudal system is no longer sustaining them. The break-up we are now witnessing in Texas is already far advanced in Latin America as street gangs and cartels expand to control growing portions of each region. Peons don’t have the luxury of identifying as “Mexican, Guatemalan”, etc. Ask any 12 year old boy down there who he is and he will immediately feel the pressure to profess affiliation with the local power group/gang/cartel, depending on who is asking the question. Want a preview of life in the US? The people coming across the border can give you an idea.
The above article you linked is loaded. He focuses on Lula as a target by the hedgemon. I agree. The hit list is out there: AMLO (or his successor), Maduro, Xiomara Castro, Petro, Arce, Diaz-Canel, Fernandez Kirchner… Trump might try and retreat to this hemisphere which would be terrible for the Latin America. I hope he doesn’t but his record is not good. Over time the people will emerge victorious. We’re talking years, not months. Meanwhile, the US election will trigger more horror stories from the border along with blue team pearl clutching and red team hissy fits. Neither side is prepared for what they are proposing.
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 27 2024 13:30 utc | 71
E.g. “socialism leads to fascism”.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 27 2024 7:31 utc | 65
With all due respect ‘socialism does lead to Fascism.’
Let me give three examples: the Nationalist Socialist Party won the 1933 German election led by Adolf Hitler.
FDR began the New deal in the US in 1933 as well , Lyndon Johnson unveiled the Great Society in 1966 and after 1990 US became full Fascist.
Mussolini started as a socialist:
” Who Is the Ideological Father of Fascism?
Practically everyone knows that Karl Marx is the ideological father of communism and socialism and that Adam Smith is the father of capitalism and economic liberalism. Do you know, in contrast, who the mind behind fascism is? It’s very likely that you don’t, and I can tell you in advance that the philosopher behind fascism was also an avowed socialist.
Giovanni Gentile, a neo-Hegelian philosopher, was the intellectual author of the “doctrine of fascism,” which he wrote in conjunction with Benito Mussolini. Gentile’s sources of inspiration were thinkers such as Hegel, Nietzsche, and also Karl Marx.
Gentile went so far as to declare “Fascism is a form of socialism, in fact, it is its most viable form.” One of the most common reflections on this is that fascism is itself socialism based on national identity.
Gentile believed that all private action should be oriented to serve society. He was against individualism, for him there was no distinction between private and public interest. In his economic postulates, he defended compulsory state corporatism, wanting to impose an autarkic state (basically the same recipe that Hitler would use years later).
A basic aspect of Gentile’s logic is that liberal democracy was harmful because it was focused on the individual which led to selfishness. He defended “true democracy” in which the individual should be subordinated to the State. In that sense, he promoted planned economies in which it was the government that determined what, how much, and how to produce.
Gentile and another group of philosophers created the myth of socialist nationalism, in which a country well directed by a superior group could subsist without international trade, as long as all individuals submitted to the designs of the government. The aim was to create a corporate state. It must be remembered that Mussolini came from the traditional Italian Socialist Party, but due to the rupture with this traditional Marxist movement, and due to the strong nationalist sentiment that prevailed at the time, the bases for creating the new “nationalist socialism,” which they called fascism, were overturned.
Fascism nationalized the arms industry, however, unlike traditional socialism, it did not consider that the state should own all the means of production, but more that it should dominate them. The owners of industries could “keep” their businesses, as long as they served the directives of the state. These business owners were supervised by public officials and paid high taxes. Essentially, “private property” was no longer a thing. It also established the tax on capital, the confiscation of goods of religious congregations and the abolition of episcopal rents. Statism was the key to everything, thanks to the nationalist and collectivist discourse, all the efforts of the citizens had to be in favor of the State.”
As Plato noted, presciently, there are cycles of governments: “aristocracy, timocracy, oligarchy, democracy, and tyranny,’ and that cycle will go on as long as humans are still around.
Well – I thought this was funny, British humour maybe.
ICBC’s The National’s The Moment from two nights ago featured an underwater battle between a seal and an octopus. (I see this in light of the news I shared on the Week in Review thread, ultimately arriving at the UK refusing to negotiate a trade deal any longer with the naturalized Canadian citizen from British Hong Kong, who became an MP, and is negotiating on behalf of Canada.)
Comment @194
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/01/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2024-022.html
https://youtu.be/h2Q4Apvp8cw (About 2 mins)
Goldy Hyder, head of the non-profit Business Council of Canada, encouraged the return to negotiations, and noted on BNN Bloomberg: “Businesses on both sides of the Atlantic need certainty, reliability and predictability.”
In the meantime, as I reported in that other comment, Canadians are encouraged to shop at IKEA which really says something about the situation. And sending 1,000 Canadian troops overseas is a deployment not participation in a NATO exercise, I think, after thinking about it.
La Presse has an opinion piece on Hydro Quebec –
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/editoriaux/2024-01-27/il-faut-des-etats-generaux-sur-l-energie.php
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 27 2024 13:38 utc | 73
Here is a quote from Military Times. You could read the same thing dozens of other places.
People might just quickly glide their eyes over the quote without noticing something.
On any given day there are at least 900 U.S. forces in Syria, along with an undisclosed number of contractors.
900 US Forces aaaand an “undisclosed number”.
Yep, they are hiding something. (Aren’t we all surprised…NOT)
As best as I can tell the Pentagon doesn’t want anyone to know official numbers. But in 2018 (a one time occurrence?) the Pentagon gave official numbers. (There is probably a back story as to what caused/forced them to release these official numbers.)
https://www.injuredoverseas.com/dod-u-s-contractors-syria/
The Pentagon did not give a break down of how many were in Syria and how many Iraq, but the number was 5,500 contractors.
Politically, contractor deployment, and more importantly contractor casualties, do not count in official reports. That makes the DoD’s footprint and the risks that its personnel face look smaller. A semi-popular conflict, like the one in Syria, thus becomes easier to sell to civilian brass.
Got that? Contractor casualties do not count in official reports. When you read in the news about contractors in Syria being killed they are only telling us this because there were too many deaths to hide. What they can do is a shell game and report “two deaths” when the number may have actually been twelve, for example.
Posted by: librul | Jan 27 2024 13:44 utc | 74
Posted by: canuck | Jan 27 2024 13:30 utc | 72
Forgot to notate the article I presented in 72:
1. https://fee.org/articles/theres-no-denying-the-socialist-roots-of-fascism/
“Got that? Contractor casualties do not count in official reports. When you read in the news about contractors in Syria being killed they are only telling us this because there were too many deaths to hide. What they can do is a shell game and report “two deaths” when the number may have actually been twelve, for example.”
Posted by: librul | Jan 27 2024 13:44 utc | 74
Yeah the Us has been doing that-using contractors and not disclosing their casualties since the Iraq war in 2003.
One thing is for sure they will paying the contractors much, much more than they pay their soldiers.
“We have bonanza chance to nail chicoms on disastrous events in Indonesia,
https://monthlyreview.org/2015/12/01/the-united-states-and-the-19651966-mass-murders-in-indonesia/
Tip of an iceberg.
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 13:09 utc | 68
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Any day now, FBI assholes ‘discover’ arms cache from China, ‘destined for the BLM’, complete with the hammer and sickle conveniently stamped on them.
wn go berserk, rise up to topple the serial lying ptb assholes genocide the Chinese americans.
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 14:14 utc | 77
January 27, 2024: “Nine Pakistanis were killed in Iranian city of Saravan on Saturday, according to Pakistan’s envoy in Tehran, Ambassador Muddasir Tipu”
https://www.dawn.com/news/1809103/9-pakistanis-killed-in-iranian-city-of-saravan-confirms-diplomat-in-tehran
Those damn Zionists at it again, right??
Posted by: Antonym | Jan 27 2024 14:18 utc | 78
@ denk
Looking for racial discrimination outside of mainland China? Go no further than Indonesia 1998: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/article/3009984/may-1998-jakarta-riots-against-chinese-we-cannot-heal-what
I call that jealousy by the way.
Posted by: Antonym | Jan 27 2024 14:29 utc | 79
@ farm exologist
@ miguel jose
A Silent Continental Coup Carried Out by the U.S. Is Underway
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jan 27 2024 3:10 utc | 51
“…The border crisis reveals the massive metastatic outbreak of the terminal imperial demise: the peons living south of the border are fleeing for their lives because the feudal system is no longer sustaining them. The break-up we are now witnessing in Texas is already far advanced in Latin America as street gangs and cartels expand to control growing portions of each region…
“The above article you linked is loaded. He focuses on Lula as a target by the hedgemon. I agree. The hit list is out there: AMLO (or his successor), Maduro, Xiomara Castro, Petro, Arce, Diaz-Canel, Fernandez Kirchner…”
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 27 2024 13:30 utc | 71
There’s an error in that otherwise good overview of developments in Latin America. The clown puppet Milei, self-described anarco-capitalist wannabe jew, intends to dollarize Argentina’s economy, not de-dollarize it.
The horrors done to Latin America by Empire will intensify as the blob declines. It will also tighten its clenched death grip on US domestic population as they wake up. Most in US do not see the connections between past horrors done to other peoples and the current mass flows of people north, also people coming from other parts of the periphery, guided by money-grabbing cartels and facilitated by fat cats.
We live in a big surveilled entertainment park secured and patrolled by imperial outpost izzy-sold electronic fencing and izzy-trained guards. The Brit population sees its responsibility for the imperialist genocidal outpost in West Asia’s resource rich lands. I am not confident US population will reach similar understanding. much cultural brainwashing to overcome
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“While repressing popular opposition, Milei carries out the first measures of his program, such as cutting social programs, ending subsidies for the poor, privatizing state companies, dismissing thousands of public servants, censorship of the press (of course, not to the monopolies that elected him), the attempt (not yet implemented) to de-dollarize dollarize economy.”
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/01/24/silent-continental-coup-carried-out-by-us-is-underway/
Posted by: suzan | Jan 27 2024 15:15 utc | 80
Farm ecologist, i apologize for print error in your name!
Posted by: suzan | Jan 27 2024 15:18 utc | 81
Mike Adams is not my cup of tea usually, but he has the gumption to start his own scientific testing lab (his background) and a small media operation (brighteon) with uncensored content (which I hardly ever view). But in the article which has (surprise, surprise) got denk frothing and seething was linked the following:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/10800-assault-weapons-parts-seized-cbp-louisville
10,800 Assault Weapons Parts Seized by CBP in Louisville
Release Date Fri, 06/26/2020
LOUISVILLE, Ky—At the Express Consignment Operations hubs in Louisville U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers seized a shipment from China that contained over 10,000 Assault Weapons parts being smuggled into the country.
The shipment was seized on May 22. Officers inspected the item, which was arriving from Shenzhen, China, destined for a residence in Melbourne, Florida. The parcel was manifested as containing 100 Steel Pin Samples. This is a common practice of smugglers manifesting the contraband as a harmless or a legitimate commodity in hopes of eluding further examination.
“The importing of any type of munitions is regulated by the ATF,” said Thomas Mahn, Port Director, Louisville. “This smuggler was knowingly trying to avoid detection, however, our officers remain vigilant, ensuring our community is safe.”
My interest in this is because
a) 2024 is an election year and
b) 10,000,000 illegal immigrants since 2021 – a HUGE influx
c) many of them single men from Iran, China and so forth, not just Latin America.
Second, any lies told were by the authors of the article. Most children can understand this difference, but apparently not denk who loves to accuse others of that which he perpetrates himself.
In my comment I said ‘whether or not the accusations about the Chinese communists are true’ there must have been networks in the US coordinating the entire BLM phenomenon. (I feel the same way about the mass influx.) What this also means – for those who can think for themselves – is that even if the parts came from China as the Customs Agency officials state, this doesn’t mean ‘China’ was driving the subversive activities, rather private parties could be helping for profit or serving as cover for the CIA actually driving it all possibly.
Again, my interest is the potential for Big League political skullduggering in the US this election year. Deng is obsessed with China, I am not; he seems to feel it’s his job to call out any negative comments about China and vomit on any who offer them. This is the sort of thought or speech control which many attribute to the CPC. In this way, deng hysterically attacking others for holding different views from himself makes China look bad.
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 27 2024 13:30 utc | 71
A Silent Continental Coup Carried Out by the U.S. Is Underway
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jan 27 2024 3:10 utc | 51
I don’t follow or understand Latin American politics and generally respect Strategic Culture authors and articles but am confused by the Bolsonaro-Lula controversy in that Lula is described as pro BRICS etc. and Bolsonaro (along with Milei) as a Zionist champion, but when the latter was in office, he was also pro BRICS.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/22/brazil-election-china-economy-brics-bolsonaro-lula/ :
“For China, the Brazilian president [Bolsonaro] is an ally against the West.”
Is this disinformation or what?
That said, I suspect the thrust of the article is correct: as the US gets kicked out of Eurasia it will, understandably, want to consolidate all the Americas. If America can reform herself into a decent nation then all will be well; however if, as is more likely, she cannot then Latin America is in for a rough ride. I presume that Brazil is big enough to chart her own course. Did they finish building that huge highway through the Amazon to link up with the Pacific Coast and thus BRI shipping routes to China?
Plus: am I the only one who finds it weird that there are powerful ‘Zionist’ blocs in Latin America? For that ‘shitty little’ country in the armpit of the Mediterranean?
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 27 2024 15:51 utc | 82
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Classic scorpion weasel words…
I have no idea how accurate any of this is,
Then in the same breath…
but it was clear at the time that this was organized/coordinated. Whether or not the ‘Chinese communist government’ was involved as described, they would no doubt be working with networks within the US, the real movers and shakers, who unfortunately are not described.
Now this…
In my comment I said ‘whether or not the accusations about the Chinese communists are true’ there must have been networks in the US coordinating the entire BLM phenomenon
When one is in a hole , stop digging, my dear prof
[Im trying to be subtle , charming and civilised]
heheheh
Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2024 16:26 utc | 84
Plus: am I the only one who finds it weird that there are powerful ‘Zionist’ blocs in Latin America? For that ‘shitty little’ country in the armpit of the Mediterranean?
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 27 2024 16:23 utc | 83
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It’s not weird at all. There are significant Jewish minorities in several Latin American countries, especially Argentina, and it’s hard yo imagine they’re all poor and pro-Palestinian. Lots of Jews who fled Hitler and were denied entry into places like the USA ended up in Latin America. I went to elementary school with the daughter of a Jewish refugee who’d settled in Peru.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 27 2024 16:42 utc | 85
There is NO Left or Right.
There is ONLY the Top and Bottom.
The Above created left-right for the Below to keep them fighting between themselves for the tribulations imposed by the Above on all Below.
Some extreme slap fest like the Three Stooges.
The commies are supposedly Left and Red :the capitalists are supposedly Right and Brown.
Fascism is the controlling mechanism that ‘Bridges’ the Red-Brown supposed ‘opposites’.
Through Dog Whistles – patriotism, racisms, anti immgration, anti intellectualism, anti education, anti science , plain lies of religion, accusations of Witchery …
There is much on display with the Red-Brown agit prop infestation on MoA – it’s a badge of honour for b, that such efforts are expended by the likes of 77th, ii, Hasbara .. it must mean that the fascists are aware and slightly worried by the silent majority that must be visiting this site and are thus trying their best to control the narrative here btl.
So let’s move onto the woeful state of the British armed forces and its demographics – watch Historylegends Alex first. He does well but he has missed a couple of pieces. Maybe someone has already informed him on the comments – I haven’t checked most. He gets a lot.
https://youtu.be/tlTGBGPOblc
‘The British Armed Forces are facing a critical shortage of military personnel. What is causing this unprecedented recruitment crisis in the UK? ’
I’ll post my take later.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 27 2024 16:54 utc | 86
Canuck @72
What you just did is excellent public service. There are those who call everyone they have political disagreements with a fascict. There are many here who give you the communist/socialist interpretation of fascism. What you did was giving the fascist interpretation of fascism. Who better to know fascism then its founders. To understand it, one has to study the source. Gentile and Mussolini explaniin it best. The same applies to other popular movements, as well. To understand National Socialism, read Hitler. To understand Social Credit, read Major Douglas. To understand communism, read Marx and Lenin, etc. Don’t let others read and explain them for you, do it yourself.
Thank you, canuck!
Posted by: AJ | Jan 27 2024 17:29 utc | 87
There is a blackout on the news at the border in msm. I find out what’s going on through alternative media, which shows us why our ruling overlords are so intent on banning and censoring it.
The US has been overrun with illegal aliens, especially in the last three years. The virtue signalers like to talk about how we are all the children of immigrants (put to a stop from 1924 to 1964), and Hate Has No Home Here, and Diversity Is Our Strength, but look at them squeal with indignation when busloads of the Diverse are sent to their cities. They can’t afford them, doncha know? Send them to flyover country, and let the struggling people there feed and house them, and pay for ESL for their children. Just cut back on music and science classes and hire some more interpreters, you damn Deplorables.
When a few busloads were sent to Washington, DC., the mayor made a speech about how outrageous that was, and then she said “This is not the plan.”
The plan? Please tell us what the plan is then. But no one asked. No one seemed to care. Well, I care. I want to know exactly what their plan is. They brought in millions of people so far. Why? What for?
The war is not between the blue and red states, it is the ruling class, embodied by the Biden regime, backed by the media and those who slurp the media, against the working class, embodied by the Deplorables. Immigration has always been used to divide the working class. But this has been raised to new heights.
An entire family was hacked to death by an illegal in my county, and the response from the virtue signalers is “So? That’s just one guy. They don’t all hack people to death.” They tried to make this county a Sanctuary County! And when citizens of the town in which the massacre happened showed up to protest, they, of course, were derided as “racists”.
It’s only that one guy? And yet, my niece’s boss was also murdered by illegals. My sister, her mother, was unshaken from her liberal beliefs by that.
But not everyone is so blasé. The Texas National Guard will have backup.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 27 2024 17:40 utc | 88
Red Sea/Suez closing down, Year round northern route opening.
Slavyangrad
@SlavyangradSLG
❗️🇷🇺🛳️ From the next navigation period, the Northern Sea Route will be open year-round
📝 “Cargo navigation along the entire length of the Northern Sea Route (NSR) will become year-round from 2024.”
Alexander Novak, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, wrote about this in an article in the Energy Policy magazine on January 25.
This is the result of two factors – global warming and Russia’s growing number of nuclear-powered icebreakers capable of carrying ships even in winter.
Note: Today there are SEVEN nuclear-powered icebreakers of three types in operation:
1. “Yamal” and “50 Let Pobedy”, project 10520.
2. “Taimyr” and “Vaigach”, project 10580, whose service life has been extended until at least 2027.
3. “Arktika”, “Sibir” and “Ural”, project 22220.
The fourth icebreaker of Project 22220 “Yakutia” should enter into service by the end of this year and then we will have EIGHT nuclear icebreakers. The fifth “Chukotka” in 2026. Even the USSR did not have such a group. By the end of its existence there were only SIX of them.
By the way, today President Vladimir Putin took part in the laying of the next icebreaker of this project, “Leningrad”, which is to enter service in 2028 (and another “Stalingrad” is to be laid down next year).
And by the end of 2027, the giant icebreaker Russia, whose characteristics allow it to sail the Arctic Ocean anywhere at any time of the year, is due to enter service.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 27 2024 17:49 utc | 89
RFK Jr. went to the border and interviewed the people standing in line. They were mostly not from oppressed Latin American countries, the way we are told. They are from all over the world. They fly in, get bused to the border, and then get handed plane tickets, cell phones, and pre-loaded debit cards by Border Patrol. Why? What’s the plan? (And that explains why Border Patrol is pissed off and stands with Texas. I doubt they joined up to hand out bus tickets to illegals.)
I don’t think he found any Chinese men there. I could be wrong.
It was George Bush the First who opened the gates to the Chinese. After Tiananmen Square (the first color revolution), he offered citizenship to any Chinese citizen who came to America. They came by the boatload, literally. But they didn’t come to cause trouble. They came to make money.
The Bay Area in California now has a sizeable percentage of people of Asian ancestry. The Chinese now have citizenship. A lot of the others are H1B visa’d workers, who work for less money and fewer benefits than native born Americans.
I disregard any talk of an alliance between BLM and Chinese immigrants. That is laughable.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 27 2024 18:03 utc | 90
Peter AU1 @89
The Northeast Passage is entirely within Russian territorial waters, and sailing it will consist of convoys relying on Russian icebreakers, therefore trade through that route will be entirely under Russian control. This may not be acceptable to the powers that be, but the economic advantages vis-a-vis the traditional routes will be huge.
Posted by: AJ | Jan 27 2024 18:04 utc | 91
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/01/24/silent-continental-coup-carried-out-by-us-is-underway/
Posted by: suzan | Jan 27 2024 15:15 utc | 80
Good eye suzan. Milei appears to be a real piece of work.
The border story will be huge this year. We are clueless. We do not know why “they” are coming. We have no plan.
I never thought I would live to see the breakup of the US. Might happen…
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 27 2024 19:06 utc | 92
ZH article, breaking:
Border Patrol Says Agents Will Not Remove Texas Razor Wire Barriers
Tyler Durden’s Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, JAN 27, 2024 – 10:40 AM
Authored by Steve Watson via Modernity.news,
In defiance of the Biden Administration’s wishes, senior figures within Customs and Border Protection have stated that there are no plans to have Border Patrol agents remove razor wire barriers erected along sections of the border by the Texas National Guard.
Brazil
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 27 2024 16:23 utc | 83
As far as I can tell China and Russia don’t mess with other countries’ elections so China didn’t attempt to help Bolsonaro or Lula. However, Lula immediately reached out to China and has been very active in BRICS, championed Dilma’s appointment as head of the BRICS bank (in China) and has alienated Biden with his constant support for de-dollarizing. Biden supported Lula because Bolsonaro was a Trump fanboy and Biden looks at the world like a doped up hormoning 13 year old and he thought he could “turn” Lula. Didn’t work out for him.
As Suzan said, Latin America will be hurt by the Empire as they retreat from Eurasia and attempt to re-establish their grip on the Western hemisphere. Brazil has lots of arrogant, wannabe oligarchs who would sell out their country in a heartbeat to Trump, Biden, Kamala or whomever. Lula and every other non-sold out leader is in constant danger of being pushed out or killed and they all know it.
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 27 2024 19:26 utc | 94
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 27 2024 16:42 utc | 85
Plus: am I the only one who finds it weird that there are powerful ‘Zionist’ blocs in Latin America? For that ‘shitty little’ country in the armpit of the Mediterranean?
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 27 2024 16:23 utc | 83
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It’s not weird at all. There are significant Jewish minorities in several Latin American countries, especially Argentina, and it’s hard yo imagine they’re all poor and pro-Palestinian.
Fair enough, but still it’s one thing for some very small numbers of J’s in Latin America to take refuge there as you describe and quite another for them to be heavy-hitters in the region helping to determine who runs governments as the article describes.
Of course it is because they are connected to the ‘Cosmopolitan Empire’ animated by the geo-commercial power players within the Jewish diaspora who have roots as such going back millennia. I think few of us really know how these intra and inter national networks function and why they are so extraordinarily influential.
As indeed your answer evidences because no way would the tiny numbers you mention have so much influence unless they were part of something much larger.
The whole Jewish Question is a very deep topic which can only be understood along with understanding human nature itself at a profound level – which of course few of us do. But an essentially tribal collective that has survived for so long despite being exiled so often clearly knows how to persist and rise again.
Incidentally, my only real question about emerging multipolarity is where do Putin and Xi stand viz this Cosmopolitan Tribal Empire: For or Against?
Or put another way: have they (as I suspect) done a deal?
Time will tell.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 27 2024 13:30 utc | 72
Except NSADP only added socialist to its name for votes as it was the en vogue ism at the time. Same with Mussolini. Claiming The new deal lead to fascism is just wrong on so many levels as the embedding of Fascism in the US began immediately after (if not sooner) ww2 in the entire west. Socialism=Fascism is a mental midget take and the #1 reason behind why the west is so irretrievably confused today. What r u some type of disinfo agent? socialism is responsible for EVERYTHING good in Canada today. EVERYTHING!! Canada is Fascist today inspite of its socialist history not because of it.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 27 2024 19:44 utc | 96
wagelaborer | Jan 27 2024 17:40 utc | 88
What I find… well, hilarious, almost, about this whole situation, is that while everybody and their uncle should be allowed to enter a foreign country as they please in the south according to the open-border fanatics, every frigging car is still searched at the tightly controlled US-Canadian border, for fear someone might bring in a pack of cigarettes or something like that!
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 27 2024 20:06 utc | 97
Sorry if someone has already linked it:
German Party Congress Opens With Gratitude to Soviet Army For Liberating Auschwitz.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240127/german-party-congress-opens-with-gratitude-to-soviet-army-for-liberating-auschwitz-1116435370.html
Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Jan 27 2024 20:16 utc | 98
Posted by: AJ | Jan 27 2024 17:29 utc | 87
except the definition of fascism by a fascist (Benito) is it should be called corporatism. There’s no money is socialism hence its derision in the west and its true potential is obfuscated by mislabeling and other nonsenses. Just sayin. Socialism=Fascism is a shit take and only serves our rulers. You do u tho ok:)
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 27 2024 20:16 utc | 99
Here’s another knee slapper, Scotch. The same people devoted to open borders are the same ones screaming about climate change, and the need to lessen our carbon emissions. People who live in the USA emit more carbon per capita than any other country on Earth.
So why add more? Put in 6,000,000 more car drivers, meat eaters, and thermostat abusers, and think of the carbon they are pumping into the atmosphere.
It’s a clear sign of Double Think, the ability to hold two opposing ideas in the same mind, without a hint of cognitive dissonance.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 27 2024 20:44 utc | 100