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January 18, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-019

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The ancient skills that haven lost..
One that has carried through the millennia though is gold leaf. Used to decorate various wooden artifacts in the pyramids and and burial places. One small company in UK or Europe still beats out gold leaf by hand. Exactly the same skill as was used at the time of the pyramids and beyond.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 13:16 utc | 301

RUSSIA’S SANCTION SAGA… AVIATION
https://rg.ru/2024/01/17/letat-na-svoih.html
More than 600 aircraft are planned to be built in Russia in six years: the Russian government has approved a program to expand the production of aircraft, engines and instruments.
The basis of the Russian fleet will be made up of “Superjets” and the flagship MC-21. According to the authorities, it is planned to transfer 142 SSJ-New, 270 – MS-21-310, 70 – IL-114-300, 115 – Tu-214 and 12 – IL-96-300 aircraft to air carriers.
State support for the project will make it possible to expand the production of domestic aircraft. So, what are these boards…

Posted by: MD | Jan 20 2024 13:22 utc | 302

Oliver Krug | Jan 20 2024 13:13 utc | 300
One of the Euro twits just in the last day or so said how dangerous it was if Trump wins. Trump is up against not just the five-eyes deep state but the combined European elite. I can’t see them alowing him to win under any circumstance. If they cant take him down by lawfare, more direct means will be used. Either that or start a major war and cancel the US elections.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 13:29 utc | 303

THE FOREIGN FIGHTERS IN RUSSIA’S SMO/WAR – UKRAINE
https://m.vz.ru/society/2024/1/16/1245290.html
…Currently, there are a significant number of foreign volunteers from Serbia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, France and Armenia in the SVR zone. Many volunteers come from Latin America and Africa.
…Over time, more and more foreign citizens began to enlist in the ranks of the Russian army and volunteer units.
By February 2023, as reported by the chairman of the movement “We are together with Russia” Vladimir Rogov, there were several thousand such applicants from more than 40 countries of the world.
And in 2023, the number of foreign volunteers in the special operation zone increased seven-fold, Sergei Shoigu said at the final (December) board of the Defense Ministry…

Posted by: MD | Jan 20 2024 13:39 utc | 304

https://letter.palladiummag.com/p/why-civilization-is-older-than-we
Article about civilizations existing much earlier than conventional history has imagined.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 14:18 utc | 305

Haven’t seen this posted: Harbin war museum sees soaring visits

The Museum of Evidence of War Crimes by Japanese Army Unit 731 in Harbin has witnessed a growing number of visitors since the beginning of this year.
The 10,000-square-meter museum is divided into six exhibition areas. It is devoted to examining the secret biological and chemical warfare research base established by Japan in Harbin in 1936 that served as the center of its biological warfare efforts in China and Southeast Asia.
Unit 731 conducted experiments on people to test germ-releasing bombs and chemical weapons, among other atrocities during the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression (1931-45).
At least 3,000 people were used in human experiments by Unit 731, and more than 300,000 people across China were killed by Japan’s biological weapons.

Posted by: Another Brother Ma | Jan 20 2024 14:18 utc | 306

https://www.rt.com/business/590907-russia-uk-fishing-agreement/
The Grand Duchy of Fenwick (UK) won’t have any steel mills (using raw materials) soon. They admitted that they don’t have any supply vessels for their Navy but must rely on allies to get food, fuel and ammo to where ever they’re deployed.
And soon, they might not have fish and chips either.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 20 2024 14:52 utc | 307

lots of fantasies flying around,

IDF is the first outfit targeting civies

Fact
FUKUS pioneered the 21C art of war,
The holy grail of urban warfare, required reading at West Point.

Jews are cartoonist evil

Harod PInter is definitely not, nor Jeffrey Sachs, nor William Blum, Ofer Cassil…..
NATO killed AT least 20M civies since WW2
Following the same logic, What does it make the whites out to be ?
pop

How do we break the matrix ?

Been saying many times
Nobody can bring down the MIC/BIG PHARMA/BIG OIL/BIG AGRI/BIG BANKS COMPLEX, Except those in the belly of the beast.
One thing is sure, squatting at the bar 24×7 whining about China, that dreadful alternative to pax americkka, certainly wont cut it.
Looks suspiciously like aiding the beast IMHO

Posted by: denk | Jan 20 2024 15:02 utc | 308

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 3:11 utc | 257
Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 2:36 utc | 250
Human social structure… we are mammals so I look at what we are as mammals in the natural environment. Animals in the wild live in the natural environment and domesticated animals do not so some difference can be seen.
Different mammals have different social structures so we have look at what as primates is the natural human social structure. That can be seen in the hunter gather peoples.
Australian aboriginal people are a window into the far distant past, very conservative and little changed since they migrated here. Their society structure has all the essential basics many of which have been forgotten or discarded in the era of so called civilized world.
Here in the west, we are moving into the absolute madness of the woke, everything essential to the human social structure discarded. For an old and advanced civilization with high density population, China still has much of that.

Two points in reply:
1. Yes about hunter-gatherers etc and their providing a window. But also even today there is a big difference between rural and urban in the same nation, let alone third world rural versus first world rural. By this I mean that some people in low population density (often small tribal) zones lead very simple lives. In Mexico where I live have passed through many coastal communities in the South whose houses are one-room shacks with outdoor kitchens, dug hole toilets, and many of the inhabitants spend most of the very hot hours swinging or snoozing in their ubiquitous hammocks shaded by trees which are the main things in their yards for that purpose dressed in little more than underwear. They eat locally caught fish, bananas and coconuts (from those same trees), chickens and their eggs and little else. (The chickens descend from Chinese varieties imported who knows when.) All this ‘primitive life’ only a few hours drive away from the modern cities of Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco.
The point being that it’s not necessarily that all humans thousands of years ago lived in primitive rural conditions. Because of course there were also highly organized towns and cities, we just don’t know much about them any more. Probably due to axis shifts and earth crust discombobulation burying everything. The book Forbidden Archeology you might enjoy.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 15:10 utc | 309

Re the POP’S CHiwawa
I invited the punk to join the discussion.
Whats better than koing me to redeem his gawd, too bad, The coward was yellow.
Now the punk brags about going around breaking peoples bones. !
Some tough guy !
This rabid chiwawa had his chance and blew it.
Now it goes into my bozo file and is zipped up for good,.

Posted by: denk | Jan 20 2024 15:12 utc | 310

Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 14:18 utc | 305
The article started off well, very much along the lines of what I am looking at but then I run onto utter rubbish like this. All the hunter gatherer peoples still existing must be ignored to write this sort of crap.
“Rather than small bands of hundreds of people, societies in the tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands seem to best fit our extended phenotype, at least once domesticated. The environment of evolutionary adaptation for Homo sapiens as we now know ourselves wasn’t the wild savannah; rather, it was complex society all along.”
This thing called civilization – civilized people… cannot be separated from the history of war. the two are one and the same. The woke west has discarded the last remaining shreds of the laws of nature for a human society that the hunter gathers understood or naturally fell into, perhaps a bit of both but they fully understood the dangers of inbreeding and that sort of thing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 15:19 utc | 311

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 3:11 utc | 257
2. China is the oldest continuous, high population civilization with hundred million plus populations in the world. I believe (the odious) Klaus Schwab is right in describing them as our model for the future. Obviously some ‘Chinese characteristics’ won’t export well but there are basic organizational principles that other nations will adopt as they too find themselves comprising hundreds of millions or billions. This is more about logistics than ideology.
Most Western States feature 18th century ‘town and country’ mindsets dragged into modernity by post-industrial central government behemoths – a confused and confusing combination, moreover terminally wounded by criminal cartels who have been parasitically sucking them dry for centuries. Deep reform is long overdue.
My guess is that one of the first changes will be to jettison the multi-party approach in favor of China’s style of local community democracy capped by a stable, relatively authoritarian leadership class, essentially a merit-based aristocracy (‘rule by the best’) which is actually a traditional, if not (officially) hereditary, class system despite all the marxist talking points. Bottom line: it works.
No doubt there is a certain degree of nepotism and corruption, because there always is, but they clearly have a stable, flexible, intelligent, responsive, dynamic system that manages well over a billion quite nicely. The level of progressive change in China the past half century is breathtaking and they are understandably proud.
The real test comes when the boom times end, but given Eurasian BRI expansion, that may be far in the future.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 15:43 utc | 312

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 15:19 utc | 311
Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 14:18 utc | 305
The article started off well, very much along the lines of what I am looking at but then I run onto utter rubbish like this. All the hunter gatherer peoples still existing must be ignored to write this sort of crap.

Yes, he’s a bit too conventional / Darwinianist / materialist for my taste, but still some interesting observations. None of us is perfect or has all the answers!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 15:45 utc | 313

Sorry, botched the formatting:

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 3:11 utc | 257

2. China is the oldest continuous, high population civilization with hundred million plus populations in the world. I believe (the odious) Klaus Schwab is right in describing them as our model for the future. Obviously some ‘Chinese characteristics’ won’t export well but there are basic organizational principles that other nations will adopt as they too find themselves comprising hundreds of millions or billions. This is more about logistics than ideology.
Most Western States feature 18th century ‘town and country’ mindsets dragged into modernity by post-industrial central government behemoths – a confused and confusing combination, moreover terminally wounded by criminal cartels who have been parasitically sucking them dry for centuries. Deep reform is long overdue.
My guess is that one of the first changes will be to jettison the multi-party approach in favor of China’s style of local community democracy capped by a stable, relatively authoritarian leadership class, essentially a merit-based aristocracy (‘rule by the best’) which is actually a traditional, if not (officially) hereditary, class system despite all the marxist talking points. Bottom line: it works.
No doubt there is a certain degree of nepotism and corruption, because there always is, but they clearly have a stable, flexible, intelligent, responsive, dynamic system that manages well over a billion quite nicely. The level of progressive change in China the past half century is breathtaking and they are understandably proud.
The real test comes when the boom times end, but given Eurasian BRI expansion, that may be far in the future.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 15:46 utc | 314

Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 15:10 utc | 309
By what you say, there are certainly connections to and earlier past in close proximity to the modern or current, but that earlier past can be measured in centuries. Always the start is hunter gatherers. There is the possibility that a people that had already moved passed the hunter gather stage migrated across the pacific, but what ever the case may be, there is still unchanged hunter gathers in south America. In the Americas the area of early civilizations appear to be above the isthmus and down the west coast of the south give or take a bit.
My thought is that what you see there is an earlier stage of civilization mixed with a later stage civilization re the Spanish. He we have the recent civilization contrasting with hunter gatherer indigenous people.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 15:52 utc | 315

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 15:52 utc | 315
My thought is that what you see there is an earlier stage of civilization mixed with a later stage civilization re the Spanish. He we have the recent civilization contrasting with hunter gatherer indigenous people.

I live in an Olmeca area with pyramids so old they look like overgrown hills. The people living in the hill country village area I’m slowly moving into (because of affordability not whimsy) are the descendants – presumably – of those who built those pyramids and cities, but they have no knowledge of them at all. So some civilizations and cultures die, but the people live on. Sad but true.
Maybe there is deep-down memory. I think what many of those early human groups possessed which we now lack is heightened non-verbal faculties, including the ability to blend dream and awake worlds. Some still can access those ways.
There was a conference of shamans in Mongolia a few years ago. A shaman friend of mine participated. Some Australians were there too I believe. At the end of the conference they did a famous old trick the Buddhist and Hindu yogis used to play during their conferences: they stopped the sun in the sky for a day. As his plane took off to return back to the Americas, he could see the sun still there in the same place.
Those people back then could do ‘miraculous’ things like that though the heavy lifting was in meetings with remarkable spirits and visions that those of us tethered only to the waking world tend to regard as superstitious twaddle.
After our cities have crumbled, who is going to have the last laugh…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 16:21 utc | 316

But the Sun did not stop for all. That would have been news. But it does stop for some, which is our clue.
Subjective Reality is subject to influence and manipulation.
The Prophet (SAWS) identified 3 categories of manipulation of :
1 – The Cross representing (in general) mind control via religion. The cross (‘the crux’ …) is representative of projection of numinous unconscious (archetypes) unto the ‘the world of appearances’ of the conscious ego. Yes, Uncle Joe looking down at you from the wall is an example of Cross. So are pictures of ((((Ayatollahs))) in streets of Iran and Lebanon.
2 – Pigs. Pigs represent degenerated, self-satisfied, and vain intellect. Chess was mentioned in relation to pig’s blood. We can fold most of absolutist materialist thought right here.
3 – Majoos (Magicians): The Cabal. The cabal uses magic. This uses divine words and symbols (c.f. Golden Calf and “dust of Moses’ sandal” used to make the calf talk to Israelites) but twists them to mean its opposite. Contemporary example being (((Israel))) and (((Zion)))
We can discuss the mechanism of projection and its relationship to Maya and the Cosmic Man

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 17:11 utc | 317

Could someone please explain why Russia is not banning strikes on Syria when Iran is a major help in the fight against Ukraine/NATO

Posted by: Emile67 | Jan 20 2024 17:13 utc | 318

We Are The Problem
We are Masters of the Universe
Rulers of the Earth
and We decide who lives or dies
what laws and lies are birthed
Here is your new leader
we chose him just for you
the other guy is gonna die
and we’ve arranged a coup
Our good and faithful minions
share all of our opinions
so if you wanna live
here’s what yer gonna do
Arrest our competition
and buy our submarines
and force your population
to submit to our vaccines
We’ll take your sons and daughters
to do with as we like
accept our global slaughter
We are the Jewish Reich
Do as you are told
don’t make us use the stick
cuz we can be quite ruthless
when we wanna be a prick

Posted by: ld | Jan 20 2024 17:19 utc | 319

Carl Gustav Jung’s model of the psyche and the theoretical framework he built around it is informative.
In his Mysterium Coniunctionis, Dr. Jung dived deep into the structure of numinous complexes of the collective un-conscious. These univeral givens govern the Cosmic Man, Adam, who is “God’s vice-regent on Earth”, meaning Adam, the Realized Man, has full control over his domain. He is “Lord”, Seyyed, Master, Guru, Guide.
https://iaap.org/resources/academic-resources/collected-works-abstracts/volume-14-mysterium-coniunctionis/

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 17:30 utc | 320

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 17:11 utc | 317
But the Sun did not stop for all. That would have been news. But it does stop for some, which is our clue.
Subjective Reality is subject to influence and manipulation.
The Prophet (SAWS) identified 3 categories of manipulation of :
1 – The Cross representing (in general) mind control via religion. The cross (‘the crux’ …) is representative of projection of numinous unconscious (archetypes) unto the ‘the world of appearances’ of the conscious ego. Yes, Uncle Joe looking down at you from the wall is an example of Cross. So are pictures of ((((Ayatollahs))) in streets of Iran and Lebanon.
2 – Pigs. Pigs represent degenerated, self-satisfied, and vain intellect. Chess was mentioned in relation to pig’s blood. We can fold most of absolutist materialist thought right here.

At a certain level, that which is subjective is not separate from all and everything. Our objective universe is a type of spell wherein seemingly separate entities remain forever intertwined whilst forever meeting and parting. Like watching wave action on a lake. Or clouds forming, moving, transforming, dissolving. So the sun did not stop moving and yet thousands saw it stay still in the sky that day. I doubt this ‘trick’ could have taken place in New York. But in Mongolia, where shamanism is still very much alive, or in the Amazon, or in part of Mexico, or in the Ozzie bush….who knows. I neither believe nor disbelieve but as far as I know my friend is not a liar and people invite him all over the world because they find him helpful. I just like to barbecue large filet minons and crack jokes with him in my execrable Spanish. We get on great. (He wants to sacrifice goats to protect us and I keep desperately refusing!)
2. Pigs. I have NO IDEA what that meant, but it sounds cool!
3. The Cross. I saw a diagram illustrating how the cross made of thick members is an unfolded cube. It seems to relate to the large stone in Mecca somehow and somehow tells me that all the Religions of the Book are like cousins in the same family. Though they speak with symbols I do not understand.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 17:37 utc | 321

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 17:37 utc | 321
> Oink oink
“Life is in the Blood” we read in the Torah. The Prophet (SAWS) compared a chess player to a man “dipping his hand in pig’s blood”. PIg is an intelligent animal whose life and condition do not reflect its intelligence. Pigs.
> At a certain level, that which is subjective is not separate from all and everything. Our objective universe is a type of spell …
We are told this right in the beginning of Al-Quran, “the Book that makes things clear”. This first Sura is called “Fatiha” meaning Opening and yes, it “opens” “the Illuminating Lecture” (another name of Qur’an). (Here is a good point to remind that God is —very sublte— and you should not be satisfied with superficial readings of His ‘Book’ which is not just the matter you hold in your hands).
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
Alhamdu lillaahi Rabbil ‘aalameen

Let’s focus on the second line here: Praise be to Allah (Rab) Lord of “al-Aalameen”. Now this quoted word is usually translated as “the worlds”. But Allah sent the guidance in Arabic for a reason. Arabic has the wonderful feature of ‘roots’ that ‘relate’ semantics. (Persian (Farsi) for example permits ‘overlaying distinct and surprising’ in language which is useful for ‘coded communications’ from the Masters of the past for respectufl and appreciative student readers of future.)
Ein. Laam. Mim. are the root letters here.
So Aalmeeen has always read as “Sentient Knowing Realms” for me. And in the Opening, Allah teaches us to “praise” Allah as Lord of these realms.
Each Son of Adam is a Universe. You are a Universe, but “how low has Adam fallen, into the lowest levels”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
So ALLAH is “LORD” of the Multiverse. Rab al-Aalameen.
Each sentient being, given a ‘mind’ and a ‘heart’, is engaged in what Lispers know as “REPL”: Read, Evalutate, Print, Loop. A continuous ‘reading’ of ‘subjective realtity’ that “Prints” (images and forms perception).
In Qur’an we are informed that Allah is continually creating. The World would “perish if he took off His gaze”. At each interstitial point you are given Choice. Our choice (whether thought, speech, or action) affects the ‘space of possibilities for the future’. Choices open doors and close doors. Karma, which as an Iranian it readily reads as “Kar-e man’, or My Works.
It pays to know the way to correct and timely choices. It is a critical matter as the nature of our true being is a-temporal and the “hearafter” is a type-space. You know, like with like, the good with the good in a good place, and … etc.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 18:01 utc | 322

OT
@ Filemon | Jan 20 2024 8:36 utc | 284
One way to view this developing relationship between denk who has been in hot pursuit of Scorpion for a long time now, calling him out of his name, is through a karmic lens. denk, perhaps unbeknownst to him, is pursuing and forging a solid karmic tie which may yield great surprise! whilst at the same time sincerely voicing his opinion.
Scorpion can stand up for himself and take whatever blows are thrust.
denk stands up for himself in punching outward with energy. It’s a lot of energy there. IMV it is best to allow the tumultuous waters calm of their own (e) motion. More energy added from us just roils the waters.
denk could voice his opinion in a manner which does not attack Scorpion, but it seems, like some other personalities here with other foci which seem elaborated beyond consideration courtesy or need to me, that is not his wont. It is his choice. Just sain’
None of us has perfect skills or wisdom.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 20 2024 18:17 utc | 323

@Moonie 88
Quote I do not get it – as America tethered on the ”
First WW plotters.
As America teetered on the brink of entering World War II, Charles A. Lindbergh gave a fateful speech that did more damage to the America First movement for peace than all the propagandistic efforts of the pro-war groups he named in Des Moines that day. In his oration, the great aviator and American hero sought to define who and what had brought us to the point of no return:
“The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish, and the Roosevelt administration.
“Behind these groups, but of lesser importance, are a number of capitalists, Anglophiles, and intellectuals who believe that the future of mankind depends upon the domination of the British empire. Add to these the Communistic groups who were opposed to intervention until a few weeks ago, and I believe I have named the major war agitators in this country.”
“This act [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. … When the President signs this act the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust investigation, will be legalized. – Charles A. Lindbergh Sr speaking to Congress after the Federal Reserve was passed, December 22, 1913 [C]

Posted by: Sam | Jan 20 2024 18:45 utc | 324

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 18:01 utc | 322
Arabic has the wonderful feature of ‘roots’ that ‘relate’ semantics. (Persian (Farsi) for example permits ‘overlaying distinct and surprising’ in language which is useful for ‘coded communications’ from the Masters of the past for respectufl and appreciative student readers of future.)
Ein. Laam. Mim. are the root letters here.
So Aalmeeen has always read as “Sentient Knowing Realms” for me.

That is a very appealing explanation of Farsi etymology. Me gusta! Thank you.
And that phrase ‘sentient knowing realms’ is the same notion as a ‘Buddha Realm’ which combines subjective (Buddha = ‘The Knowing/Awake One’) with objective (Sanskrit dhatu = realm, space, field, zone). So-called ‘reality’ is indeed a ‘sentient knowing realm’. Exactly. And every child knows this instinctively (why their stories are so much better than what’s on Netflix!) but for some reason sophisticated modern people have collectively lost the plot and even get insulted if you point this out to them.
I wonder if traditional Persian culture is at odds with modern materialism too, or did you have those battles centuries ago? (And if so, who won?!)
Pigs: in a French village I lived in decades ago they used to squeal terribly and for a long time before being slaughtered. Ghastly. But I shamelessly still enjoyed the rillettes any time I could get some.
Every week or so where I live now a HUGE Puerco with larger-than-grapefruit testicles walks down the lane in front of our rental house, accompanied by his much smaller owner holding a flimsy piece of dirty string as leash, presumably on his way to ‘service’ some grateful Lady Puerca.
They both walk into town with purposeful gravitas but seem much more relaxed and nonchalant on the return journey!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 19:05 utc | 325

> They both walk into town with purposeful gravitas but seem much more relaxed and nonchalant on the return journey!
That was funny!
> Bhudda
The Lotus Sutra speaks to me and I find it in concord with Qur’an. Sura 55 ar-Rahman in Qur’an touches on the Eastern guidance (after all there is only One ..) and I recommend reading it with that in mind and your grasp of Bhudda’s teachings. (The Balance is The Tao, Yin|Yang btw ..)
Our clue in that Sura is that very good things and very awful things are both presented as “Blessings from ALLAH” …
“Which of the favors of your Lord you twain deny?”
My rule of thumb when reading is inexplicable first pass indicates a necessity for a re-think of the ‘model’. That sura demands it.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 19:28 utc | 326

> They both walk into town with purposeful gravitas but seem much more relaxed and nonchalant on the return journey!
That was funny!
> Bhudda
The Lotus Sutra speaks to me and I find it in concord with Qur’an. Sura 55 ar-Rahman in Qur’an touches on the Eastern guidance (after all there is only One ..) and I recommend reading it with that in mind and your grasp of Bhudda’s teachings. (The Balance is The Tao, Yin|Yang btw ..)
Our clue in that Sura is that very good things and very awful things are both presented as “Blessings from ALLAH” …
“Which of the favors of your Lord you twain deny?”
My rule of thumb when reading is inexplicable first pass indicates a necessity for a re-think of the ‘model’. That sura demands it.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 19:29 utc | 327

> I wonder if traditional Persian culture is at odds with modern materialism too, or did you have those battles centuries ago? (And if so, who won?!)
What happened (imho) is that Persian propensity for metaphysical meaning, due to social disruptions and shocks of Mongols (which drove say Rumi and his father’s family from Khorasan to Anatolia thus “Rumi” as in Roman) degenrated into supersition. As for modern materialism, I don’t know. I will not touch foot in Iran until the abomination is gone.
(Have you ever read Attar besides the “Language|conference of the birds”? He wrote extensively about the nature of reality in his other works.)

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 19:52 utc | 328

@scorpion
Realized I didn’t actually answer your question. Materialism was never accepted in Persian culture. Gnosism (Er’faan) has deep deep roots in Persian culture and mythology. And of course after Islam, rejection of materialism was reinforced. (Erfaan for exmple is an Arabic word, and it refers to Sura The Heights of Qur’an). However, the clerics never looked kindly on mystics (Aaref) and this was of course reciprocated. Officially, all if not most of these gnostic schools (selseleh, dynasty, chain) fix their frame of reference to gnostic knowledge communicated from either Ali (AS) or Abu Bakr (RA) but undoubtedly the Eastern imprint is heavily present in Sufi synthesis of Islam and Gnostism (which naturally had roots going all the way back to the fabled Magi). From what I hear, these are now being heavily persecuted in Iran (kinda like what happened to Sufis at some point in Ottoman empire). Gnostism is seen as dangerous by priests. Always.
I can see the merit of the priests’ argument, as you must know, there is a ‘thicket of confusion’ when we adventure off the plantation and venture on journey on our own. It really is a crapshoot to some extent. But their total suppression of this material and knowledge speaks of other motives.
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to Matthew 23:13
Please note Jesus (AS) is hinting that the Pharisees indeed knew (!) of the ‘mysteries’ but they neither taught it nor did they apply it themselves. Somethings never change, Scorpion.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 20 2024 20:23 utc | 329

“…The facts are this: The Taiwanese people have been self-determining their existence since 1945 after the Japanese left and the defeated KMT civil war army arrived.
“How is this in any way controversial?…” Lavrov’s Dog @ 267
It’s controversial because its not true. And the Taiwan separatists would be the first to confirm it. As soon as Chiang and the remnants of the KMT arrived the population of Taiwan became subject to a thoroughly authoritarian, plutocratic semi-fascist regime.
Any thoughts of separatism were quashed as Taiwan was re-defined as the Republic of China, and claimed a seat on the UN Security Council.
Far from determining anything, the people had to do as they were told. Any dissent was punished, many were killed.
So what you claim to be ‘uncontroversial’ is just not true at all.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 20 2024 20:27 utc | 330

I am real late to the party here but just read karlof’s #2, his Lavrov quote and half a dozen silly rejoinders.
Lavrov is plainly referring to histoire moderne. Or Modern History. Or Modern European History if you must. The period since 1492. For those who are not even vaguely familiar many events occurred in 1492 besides Columbus. Lavrov is a good historian and sometimes speaks in historian’s shorthand, as if he had an educated audience. Apparently this is not that audience.
Lavrov is not such an idiot as to imagine that 1492 and 1892 or 1992 were all the same. Go beat some other straw man.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 20 2024 20:54 utc | 331

Scorpion | Jan 20 2024 16:21 utc | 316 “At the end of the conference they did a famous old trick the Buddhist and Hindu yogis used to play during their conferences: they stopped the sun in the sky for a day. As his plane took off to return back to the Americas, he could see the sun still there in the same place.”
That’s the problem with looking into archaeology that does not fit the group think box. Very few look into without resorting to space aliens, hoodoo voodoo or gods.
Australian aboriginals arriving in Australia indicate sea travel was possible more than fifty thousand years ago. Oldest dugout canoe found to date, 13,000 years, keeping in mind it is to find any wooden artifact going back that far. As I pointed out to Moonie, the bronze age gizmo only requires precision maths, not precision machining of today. As for the precision rocks, all within the realm of good craftsmen. The site in turkey, the only old rock site to be dated is 13,000 years so both that and the canoe prior to the great sea level rise/climate change. The underwater achepelego stretch around to peru – how much of that was above water prior to sea level rise – I need to get hold of accurate barometric maps for that.
But turkey shows that carving and moving large chunks of stone was going on before the climate change and all that require is to be able to produce the food to feed the man hours required, so that requires farming/herding, so it is likely farming herding started at a much earlier date than official archaeology tells us.
Damascus steel – the secrets to that lost around 1850. The ore can be found to make the correct crucible steel alloy but a big part of those sword was in the forging of the steel ingot and that is a skill that has only recently been lost.
There’s nothing unexplained about the past, only the evidence is missing that would allow us to date it, to understand what was it an a culture or that ran through a number of related cultures that drove those people to waste time with rocks. All have a spiritual or religious/astronomy aspect but then all cultures before modern science put all nastural phenomena down to spirits.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 20:58 utc | 332

When you look up at the sky and see that puffy white cloud you are looking at a formation that may be as little as 0.00003% water vapor. That is four zeroes to right of decimal. That trace of vapor clearly interacts with radiation. You can see the cloud. The cloud is visible. Because solar radiation reflects white off the vapor.
Same cloud is roughly 0.04% carbon dioxide. Which is not visible. It does interact with solar radiation. Too many wish to deny that interaction. Because it does not smack them in the face – today – with a 4×4 they want to laugh at it.
Stop being so ignorant. Yes, Greta Thunberg is a Wallenberg and a Rothschild and she wants you dead. That is not an excuse to maintain ignorance.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 20 2024 21:05 utc | 333

oldhippie | Jan 20 2024 21:05 utc | 333
One thought there. visible clouds are water droplets, a liquid. Water vapour is a gas. A humid day does little to deflect the sun but if the water vapour a gas condenses in top liquid then it does block/reflect various frequencies in the sunlight.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 21:13 utc | 334

Atlantis. May or may not have existed.
If it existed it was likely more advanced than those who the story comes from.
Much depends where those telling the story were at in their stage of what we call civilization.
I look at this stuff and see beginnings for a current part/segment of the the world – starting through the Mespotamia, Persia, Egypt region, then the north med shore and right around the med but the Greeks then the Romans coming into play – the Holy Roman Empire moving out past the Roman Empire taking in a big chunk of Europe up past the forests of Germany.
Now we have all the gizmos, trinkets and technology under the sun yet we are still locked into the rise and fall of empires and civilizations.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 20 2024 22:45 utc | 335

Re: RU attacked Kharkiv hotel with 200 French “mercenaries” killed:
According to The Duran the event caused a diplomatic incident in Moscow. French Amb. was summoned to the RU FM.
Serious comments were exchanged. Apparently RUs saw not independent mercenaries but French regulars directly involved in attacks and drew a red line concerning covert personnel by hostile nations.
More from TC 35:30
https://theduran.com/rus-storms-avdeyevka-moscow-warns-macron-acts-of-war-biden-tells-congress-ukr-collapse-coming/

Posted by: AG | Jan 21 2024 1:24 utc | 336

bevin | Jan 20 2024 20:27 utc | 330
You’re missing the greater point Bevin. First the context begins with what Scorpion asked. That is the ‘geopolitical’ issue – and not every historical detail or nuance about Taiwan and it’s people Chinese or indigenous or ethnic Japanese. Or I would have written a book instead. 🙂

Far from determining anything, the people had to do as they were told. Any dissent was punished, many were killed.

That too is a choice. Read the US Declaration of Independence. The people never have to do as they are told. The recognised KMT Government self-determined on behalf of the people what transpired in 1945 and soince, and the People have been with them, their Govts, all the way ever since.
Just because there is a martial law, or a minority here and there disagree is meaningless in realpolitik – the ‘point’ I was making about what Scorpion was suggesting in comparing Donbass to Taiwan.
The Donbass people were being OPPRESSED and KILLED as well … but they did something about it. The Taiwanese, if what you believe is true, chose to NOT do something about it.
BOTH cases were self-determined. This is not, or should not be “controversial” imo. Cheers LD

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 1:36 utc | 337

Lavrov #2
oldhippie | Jan 20 2024 20:54 utc | 331
The quote specifically has Lavrov saying since 1945.
Your 1492 is off with the faeries in the Hippie Garden of Light and Love. Pack another cone! 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 1:40 utc | 338

@ bevin | Jan 20 2024 20:27 utc | 330
here you go — Pop says
“Im not championing TW independence, just wondering why they cant enjoy the right to self determination, like Donbass.”
TW, the Taiwanese people, have always had the ‘Right to Self-determination’ and make their own choices.
They have made their own choices and still are making them.
What Scorpion was saying is what is not true.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 2:00 utc | 339

AG | Jan 21 2024 1:24 utc | 336
With Macron now making lots of noise, that fits. These sort of things are usually true when you hear howls of anger coming from the west.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 21 2024 2:09 utc | 340

@ oldhippie_the_scientist | Jan 20 2024 21:05 utc | 333
You’re funny fish 🙂
CO2 is recorded in Parts Per Million currently peaking in 2023 at ~425 ppm, a new record going back millions of years, with a yearly growth rate record between 3.2 and 4.3 ppm (@ Mauna Loa CO2 levels)
What forms the Clouds, which we can see, are recorded in Parts per Trillion – typically 1 to 5 parts per Trillion.
That’s Trillion. Not Billion. Not a Million.
If we could see CO2, the atmosphere, air, and the sky would be pitch Black.
WE couldn’t even see ourselves let alone the Clouds. 🙂
You’re welcome.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 2:11 utc | 341

Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 1:36 utc | 337
You are being very dishonest: the situation in the Donbas in 2015 was quite different from that in Taiwan in 1949.
In Taiwan the entire army of the Republic of China-sustained economically by the US government-arrived on a small island, recently occupied for more than half a century by Japan, and militarily defenceless.
The people of Taiwan were in no position to assert themselves- any resistance would have been and was crushed by the enormous weight of the KMT apparatus and its ally the imperial hegemon.
If you think that the same conditions existed after the Maidan coup in eastern Ukraine you are wrong. If you have any idea of the actual conditions and you assert a parallel with Taiwan in 1949 you are being dishonest and wasting everyone’s time.
As to the US Declaration of Independence- it took enormous efforts for the colonists, allied to the powers of Europe, to assert their ‘rights’ over a regime three thousand miles by sailing ship to the east, corruptly governed by idiots and with a public opinion at least half of which favoured the colonists.
Again the situation of the Taiwan population in 1949 was completely different- anyone declaring either independence or a desire to re-unite with the Peoples Republic would have been hanged. And the US would have supplied the rope.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 21 2024 2:27 utc | 342

This essay by the Japanese scholar, researcher and author Kohei Saito was first published in Unherd on January 9, 2024. Saito has just published a new book: Slow Down: The degrowth manifesto (W&N, Orion Publishing Group.
“If religion was the opium of the masses in the days of Karl Marx, then today’s drug is the cult of green capitalism. The West has been fooled into thinking that a combination of futuristic green technologies and green growth will save humanity from the climate crisis. As long as we eat our broccoli stalks and refuse plastic bags, we can continue to turn a blind eye to the truth: that the root cause of climate change is capitalism, and that our current way of life will not only lead to ecological collapse, but in doing so exploit the labour and land of the impoverished Global South.
“And yet, rather than wake up to the fact that green capitalism is a myth, Western leaders are doubling down on their commitments to green growth. From President Joe Biden to former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis and British Labour leader Keir Starmer, public figures in both Europe and the United States have succumbed to the siren call of a Green New Deal: a miraculous renewable energy and electric car investment programme that will supposedly spur a transition to a sustainable green economy…..”
https://socialistincanada.ca/forget-the-green-capitalism-con-only-a-planned-economy-and-degrowth-principles-can-save-the-planet/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 21 2024 2:32 utc | 343

“I see the storm at MoA this has caused, which is odd since I’ve posted very similar writings before over the years and there was never so much hair pulling and feet stomping.”
What storm? What hair pulling? What feet stomping?
I see a lot of circular delusions going on though.
What an immature childish response but expected given the overinflated ego so brimming in self-importance and omniscience.
Thankfully Lavrov is nothing like that.
Which is why I admire him so much and have for decades without any help or spoon feeding from anyone else.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 2:38 utc | 344

I come from the school of life where one can’t be too humble or use too much self-deprecating humor. LOL

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 2:55 utc | 345

Which brings us to this cute little line:
“Do you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?”

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 2:57 utc | 346

You are being very dishonest: the situation in the Donbas in 2015 was quite different from that in Taiwan in 1949.
@ Posted by: bevin | Jan 21 2024 2:27 utc | 342
Sorry. I generally appreciate your contributions here, but not this time.
I am not being dishonest, nor even very dishonest.
But you Bevin are being incredibly stupid and insulting.
I stopped reading your comment when I got to the word “dishonest”.
Please go back and READ WTF I wrote and to whom I was writing to and what it was about.
Or don’t. Frankly, my dear, I do not give a damn. 🙂
PLONK!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 3:01 utc | 347

This is the goat fantasy..

CHINA IS OUR TEFLON ENEMY

Fact…..
iN A discussion on China’s bridges and you find such comments…

tofu proj, will collapse in six months
Nice targets for USAF.

..
In A discussion on China’s infra structure achievement
troll

with 1.4 slave labors they sure can build it big

A travel blog depicting happy Chinese people having fun…
troll

Tell that to the Uighurs, those
Children squishing under tanks in TAM

TIP of an iceberg
rUNNER UP fantasy

Israel is a teflon country

Fact….
hundreds of UN resolutions
Global hate crimes targeting Jews
[eerily reminiscent of the FUKUS orchestrated hate crimes against Chinese since 2020 ]
Israel on trial at ICJ
Meet the goat teflon club
G7
heartland of the MIC/BIG OIL/BIG PHARMA./BIG AGRI/BIG BANKS MATRIX, !
total impunity,
0 UN resolutions
0 global hate crimes against whites
0 whites faced trial at ICJ
[WHICH prompted Africa to withdraw from the outfit….]
iS this how ‘the Jews/Israel control everything” ?
Are people being played ?
pop ask rheotically

How do we break the JEW Matrix

hint
Whether its Jew or wasp or martian controlled matrix.,
Spamming the bar with long drawn out philosophistry, anthropology, religious, ideological mumbo jumbo wont cut it
Nor questioning TW, TIBET’s legitimacy ,
Nor warning us about THE yellow peril
Why is the pop parroting G7 NARRative at the bar anyway, the last bastion of anti-imperialists, while the G7 BULLhorn already cornered 95% of ‘world opinion’ ?
Is he wittingly/unwittingly abetting the Matrix. ?
Unlike Israel who defend its case at the ICJ, FUKUS have been showing its finger to the UN for decades.
The last ICJ chief , an African who wanna investigate NATO atrocities was sanctioned by Trump and soon ousted.
Any attempt to break the impunity of G7 can only come from the grass root.
HERE again, Israel show the way.
MP Ofer Cassil oppose Tel Aviv’s policy in Gaza, he has garnered about 800 petitions to support the SA initiative.
Not much you say ?
More than one can say about the gardenist.
UNZ poster

Just a ploy to show that not all Jews are evil

Really ?
How about a gringo, or limey, step up to the plate to show not all whites are evil , just cuz NATO killed 20M since WW2?
If the pop really wanna break the matrix, its right at home,
Is he game for it ?
[Friendly warning, Cassil is taking lots of flak, ” a self hating Jew’ they say., much like gardenist call Pilger a self hating whtie]

Posted by: denk | Jan 21 2024 4:46 utc | 348

[a revised take] Regarding @ karlof1 | Jan 19 2024 16:52 utc | 161 and other comments since.
About @ Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 19 2024 7:57 utc | 134 (now 133)– which was a comment about what FM Lavrov had said in Karl’s quote in comment @ karlof1 | Jan 18 2024 16:40 utc | 2
Karl responds @161 with

Agreed, you pointed out the problem with absolutes–they are easily disproven. IMO, my interpretation is much better: …… [ snip the rest, a lengthy rave by Karl about Karl and Hudson which I was not interested in then, or now ]

My comment was about one sentence Lavrov. Not Hudson, and not Karl. But Karl’s reply completely threw me. It distracted me and confused me no end; to a point where I have totally misunderstood / misconstrued his opening remarks: “Agreed, you pointed out the problem with absolutes” — which was “Lavrov’s” absolutes – the basic ERROR I was pointing out at the beginning!
Karl was agreeing with me, but I missed that point completely. Doh! Because Karl went off on his long-winded (to me) unrelated tangent. And I have only now realized this. Hooray!
So my subsequent replies were confused and off-base because I didn’t see that “comment” clearly enough.
Because of that my next reply @ Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 20 2024 0:19 utc | 218 was all screwed up:

“Please stop talking in circles. You really seem to be incredibly sensitive anytime anyone points out a basic error in your commentary………… etc “

Talking in circles? Yes. Because the only thing I had raised was the specific comment by Lavrov himself, being:

“Since the adoption of the Charter in 1945, not a single foreign policy action of the West in the international arena has taken into account or respected the principle…. ”

And not Karl’s long winded comments about everything else. From then on it got even more confused. A total misunderstanding. But I am very happy now that I actually know and understand what happened, when, and why. (sigh) LD

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 6:06 utc | 349

Below are two quotes from Xinhuanet postings
https://english.news.cn/20240116/06fa0ce297f14cc49034aef158d3aaad/c.html
President Xi

To boost the country’s financial strength, it is important to adhere to the combination of the rule of law and the rule of virtue and cultivate a financial culture with Chinese characteristics, he said.
Such a culture adheres to the following principles: being honest and trustworthy; seeking gains through righteous approaches and avoiding a single-minded focus on profit; maintaining prudence and caution in work without succumbing to the lure of quick success; preventing funds from being diverted out of the real economy; ensuring compliance with laws and regulations, and refraining from reckless actions.

https://english.news.cn/20240120/9e777463c765486c8b1b4e7771288561/c.html
From another posting about finance

Data from China’s Ministry of Commerce show that in the first 11 months of 2023, the number of foreign-invested enterprises registered in China increased by 36.2 percent year-on-year. The actual use of foreign investment in China reached more than one trillion yuan, which is still at an all-time high.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 21 2024 6:49 utc | 350

In the end, US Patent law is applicable only as far as our armies can reach. And as it’s increasingly obvious the US army is no match for Russia, China, and perhaps Iran, our patents and intellectual property is not really enforceables there.

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 21 2024 9:26 utc | 351

Interesting propaganda article by some Italian, translated to English, that still can’t help admitting that Russia is totally invigorated and that the young look up to…..
….Stalin.
https://harpers.org/archive/2024/01/behind-the-new-iron-curtain/
(Also sanctions were the best thing to happen to Russia in over 30 years. And caviar these days is harvested from farmed and living fish, who are not harmed in the process.)

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 21 2024 11:23 utc | 352

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 20 2024 21:05 utc | 333
My vote is that we keep burning fossil fuels. Why?
When you burn, you get ash and smoke.
Nature has ways to handle ash and smoke.
Solar cells and glass fibre reinforced windmill blades, not so much.

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 21 2024 12:58 utc | 353

@Peter AU1 340
Mercouris said the same thing.
Those French press complaints however were of course not reported in FRG.
Nor the possible background.

Posted by: AG | Jan 21 2024 13:55 utc | 354

“In the end, US Patent law is applicable only as far as our armies can reach. And as it’s increasingly obvious the US army is no match for Russia, China, and perhaps Iran, our patents and intellectual property is not really enforceables there.”
Posted by: Passerby | Jan 21 2024 9:26 utc | 351
You are right about the unenforceable bit yet Russia would not have gone to this drastic action if there were no sanctions.
The sanctions provoked the response.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 21 2024 14:05 utc | 355

@ 338
If someone misses the point entirely that is just par for internet.
OTOH there are times when it is best to quit the playpen. Bye. Hope having the shitspace to yourself is what you wanted

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 21 2024 15:40 utc | 356

the goat misdirection

Jew’s war on China.
We’r fighting Israel’s wars
blah blah blah

What bollocks !
War on China has been FUKUS driven ever since the ENA, Up to the very G7 TODAY
ENA
SEATO
IPAC
CANZUK
NATO
NAATO
FIVE LIARS
NINE LIARS
FOURTEEN LIARS
FUKUSA aka AUKUS
G7
https://citizensparty.org.au/friends-these-fake-concern-australias-winemakers
https://citizensparty.org.au/media-releases/media-buries-china-scandal-revealed-victorias-branch-stacking-inquiry
https://cybernews.com/resources/5-eyes-9-eyes-14-eyes-countries/

Posted by: denk | Jan 21 2024 17:01 utc | 357

canuck | Jan 21 2024 14:05 utc | 355
I believe canceling Patents ect in Russia was only applicable to companies that ceased their operation in Russia due to sanctions. That allowed new Russian owners to keep producing the same goods. I don’t think it applies to all patents held by unfriendly countries.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 21 2024 17:17 utc | 359

oldhippie | Jan 21 2024 15:40 utc | 356
Ignore the dog. It blew in like a fart on the breeze and will blow away in the same fashion at some point.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 21 2024 17:19 utc | 360

A glaring omission…
The QUAD !

Posted by: denk | Jan 21 2024 17:20 utc | 361

@ 338 – If someone misses the point entirely that is just par for internet.
@ oldhippie | Jan 21 2024 15:40 utc | 356
Sounds like we are experiencing the same problem.
Not that you’d know or care in the least old hippie. Obviously.
BTW ” 🙂 ” means I am smiling – with you – not at you!
But who would care about that around here where ‘The Holy Church of the Big Egos’ convenes? 🙂
Oh well, whatever. Your f…..g loss man, not mine.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 21 2024 21:22 utc | 362

re my @349 (and possibly oldhippie @331 too)
I noticed this:
Karl himself also says (my bold):

That the entire West are Outlaws, “not a single foreign policy action of the West in the international arena has taken into account or respected the principle (as stated in the Charter),” is a new tact, which is 100% correct.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 18 2024 16:40 utc | 2

Aha. Yes — it is no wonder I became so confused later. I really do get it now. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 22 2024 2:17 utc | 363

pop

white man dindunuthin, its the Jews !

urgh, !
Jew’s ENA’s war on China continues…
As per P &I
THE jp are keen to join FUKUSA aka AUKUS,

JAUKUS would ‘soften the image of a white man posse’

[sic]
[aint jp ‘honorable white man ?]
German writer [no more original]

Germany had atoned for its wars and make peace with its past victims,
Whereas the jp are still unapologetic and at odds with its neighbors, preferring to suck up to distant western powers.

Which is true of course.
Ironically
The Shortz Baerbock, Leyen led Germany is reverting back to its old way, joining the 21C ENA, [1]

Luftwaffe’s ‘Eurofighter’ Jets Fly to Japan for the First Time
The three Eurofighter jets are part of 3 months of exercises Germany is carrying out to demonstrate its commitment to Indo-Pacific security.

There’r ws [white supremacists] at UNZ who gushed at this revival of ww2 AXIS powers and an reinvigorated McCarthyism all across anglophone
If G7 is so fond of the good ole days, why not add the Mongols to make it G8,
?
Hey presto , the 21C ENA !
For G7, Mongol’s GDP might not cut it, but its sinophobia is no doubt NATO interoperabLE !
G6 [past victims of yellow peril]+ Mongol [the original bona fide yellow peril] + jp [the 2nd yellow peril] to counter the ‘threat’ from China [the past and present victim of yellow/white peril]
The plot is so convoluted,
YOu cant make this shit up babe !
[1]
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Posted by: denk | Jan 22 2024 4:44 utc | 364

“It’s not just political Berlin that is mourning the late CDU politician. The French president practiced German for weeks in order to pay tribute to Schäuble in front of the Bundestag.” – FAZ.
That’s when tears come to my eyes.
Why wasn’t Karl-Heinz Schreiber invited?

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 22 2024 17:58 utc | 365

Emile67 | Jan 20 2024 17:13 utc | 318
*** Could someone please explain why Russia is not banning strikes on Syria when Iran is a major help in the fight against Ukraine/NATO ***
Perhaps because Putin (and presumably other high up people in Russia including Oligarchs) is notably close with the Lubo cultists and other Zionists?

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 22 2024 21:14 utc | 366

93 93/93

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 25 2024 2:04 utc | 367