Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 23, 2024

To Hope That China Will Help With Yemen Is Delusional Bullshit

The lunatic Biden policy with regards to Yemen will obviously fail to reach any positive results. The White House and Biden know this and he has even publicly admitted so much.

Last night the U.S.and UK again bombed Yemen:

Monday night’s moves marked the eighth round of allied attacks on the Houthis since the first on Jan. 12. American and British forces said they hit eight targets, including an underground storage site and locations for launching missiles and carrying out air-surveillance.

I doubt that the U.S. or UK knows anything about Yemeni 'underground storage sites' or other missile locations.

It simply does not have such information:

A third senior official said on Monday that figure may have crept up to 30 to 40 percent after at least 25 to 30 precision-guided munitions successfully hit their targets on Monday. But other U.S. intelligence officials who have been briefed on the size and scope of the Houthis’ arsenal say analysts are not sure how much weaponry the group started with.

American and other Western intelligence agencies have not spent significant time or resources in recent years collecting data on the location of Houthi air defenses, command hubs, munitions depots and storage and production facilities for drones and missiles, the officials said.

The delusion in the White House is that 'doing something', like bombing random targets In Yemen, will change things continues. This question is still unanswered:

How to stop the Houthis - Politico, Jan 22, 2024

A senior administration official laid it out as follows. The U.S. attacks on Houthi targets will degrade the militants’ abilities to keep shooting at ships, as will the interdiction of vessels carrying weapons to Yemen. Last week’s redesignation of the Houthis as terrorists will increase the sanctions pressure on them, starving fighters of the resources that bankroll operations.

Eventually, the official continued, regional countries and other nations with an interest in open sea lanes — China, for example — will demand an end to the shipping crisis that has inflated prices and imperiled lives. Meanwhile, Israel’s plan for more targeted operations in Gaza could mean fewer civilian casualties, which would weaken the Houthis’ case for rising to the Palestinians’ defense. An end to the war would remove that rallying cry.

The White House is obviously not even reading the news by the media it directly controls:

Houthis Won't Target Chinese, Russian Ships in Red Sea - Voice of America, Jan 19, 2024

A senior official of the Iranian-backed Houthi terrorist group says Chinese and Russian vessels will have safe passage through the Red Sea.

Mohammed al-Bukhaiti, a member of the Houthi political leadership, said in an interview with the Russian outlet Izvestia that the shipping lanes around Yemen are safe to ships from China and Russia as long as vessels are not connected with Israel, Agence France-Presse reported Friday, citing Izvestia.

The Houthis have said they are acting in solidarity with Palestinians amid Israel’s war against Hamas militants in Gaza and have carried out more than 30 attacks in the Red Sea.

All western container carriers who have serviced the Asia-Europe lines will now lose container booking from Chinese exporters to Europe. The big Chinese container lines, which have openly announced to not service Israel, will now receive those transport orders. They can offer a shorter and much cheaper trip through the Red Sea while western carriers must go all around Africa to be able to reach their destination.

China and to an extend Russia will again profit from such basic U.S. policy mistakes. To hope that they will somehow intervene to end that situation is simply absurd.

Politico concluded the part quoted above with this paragraph:

But even if all those various elements lined up, it’s still not clear the strategic picture the Houthis care about will shift radically enough for a course correction.

That is written to sound nice but it essentially means that the policy is utter bullshit.

As Caitlin Johnstone summarizes:

We live in a dystopian world where it’s completely normalized to subvert human interests to commercial interests, to toss tens of thousands of lives into the incinerator for wealth and convenience. Where war profiteers rake in vast fortunes for selling instruments of mass murder to genocidal governments, and where the most powerful empire in history declares a war to defend shipping containers at the cost of human life.

Don’t ever let these sick freaks convince you that this is normal.

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American and other Western intelligence agencies have not spent significant time or resources in recent years collecting data on the location of Houthi air defenses, command hubs, munitions depots and storage and production facilities for drones and missiles, the officials said..

Of course they wouldn't.

Everyone knows ragheads don't have nice things and just run around throwing stones all day.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 10:45 utc | 1

In 1973 America and Britain were prepared to accept oil prices quadrupling and the destruction of our economies (as they were) to ensure Israel’s survival. Don’t expect any difference now, then the Zionists only had Kissinger and a few others now they have Biden and every western govt under there thumb.
Israel will be the end of all of us.

Posted by: Mark A | Jan 23 2024 10:47 utc | 2

If only China weren't such a cypher and would make its positions clear.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 3

Saudis waged war against Houthis for years. All of their intelligence assets, air force, equipment etc. etc. were western (US and UK primarly). To say US and UK now have no information whatsoever is admitting they were useless in the first place.

Posted by: Abe | Jan 23 2024 11:15 utc | 4

Here is one of the bastard gatekeeping presstitutes and one of her thieving, murdering bastard slave masters FAILING - as an erudite doctor gets past the controlling narrative and bluster to get the message across in an interview on TV. They’ll not be having her on again! Well played Dr Myriam François 🙌
—————-
“sarah
@sahouraxo
10h
“I’m sorry your Amazon packages are delayed, but you know, there’s a genocide…”

“How dare we have a conversation about trade when there are children right now being treated without anaesthetic.”

Dr Myriam François rips Western hypocrisy as US-UK bombs rain on the poorest country in the world, Yemen, while there is a genocide in Gaza. ‘

https://nitter.net/sahouraxo/status/1749593098852655413#mI’m
———————
The Zionazi, smirking and letching at her, whilst trying to lie that inflation in the Collective Waste will get worse because of the extra cost of transporting cheap Chinese goods!
Sly bastard. Sky bastards. MSM bastards. They don’t care their lies are on record and their lord HaHa poisonous propaganda is going to condemn them for posterity. Never to be forgotten ! Where will they hide from justice?

Btw Inflation in Europe has actually been manufactured by cartel price increases. Cartel interest rate increases. Cartel controlled government sanctions on cheap Russian Energy supply replaced by expensive cartel owned supplies. And Nordstream blown up to boot!

That’s what is known as Chutzpah - bare faced lying to convince the buyer to buy your shit!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 11:25 utc | 5

The aim of the US-UK alliance is to disrupt the trade between China and Europe, to put an end globalization (at least for now), and to raise a new iron curtain.
Also they are trying to lure China in some quagmire as they did with Russia in Geoirgia, Syria, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan etc.
If China really wants to assert its free standing, it must react, like Russia did: sitting idle is not an option in the long run.

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:28 utc | 6

Hurry! deploy the Chinese flagged, Hong Kong crewed, jewish owned container ships to the red sea so this becomes chinas problem as well !

Posted by: ryanggg | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 7

If only China weren't such a cypher and would make its positions clear.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 3

“To Hope That China Will Help With Yemen Is Delusional Bullshit”

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 23 2024 11:44 utc | 8

If China really wants to assert its free standing, it must react, like Russia did: sitting idle is not an option in the long run.
Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:28 utc | 6

It's that a euphemism for attritable "tactical" nuclear capabilities?

I hope not, because last year Jens Stoltenberg said to NATO Ministers of Foreign Affairs,

...The reality is that the Strategic Concept we agreed in Madrid reflects NATO's or, as I say, a new recognition of what China means for our security, because I think we need to realize that NATO has come a long way when it comes to China. In the Strategic Concept we had until last summer, China was not mentioned with a single word. Then, in the Strategic Concept we agreed in Madrid, in June last year, we made important decisions. We don't regard China as an adversary. But we stated clearly in the Strategic Concept that China's assertive behaviour poses a challenge to our interests, our values, our security...

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 11:46 utc | 9

Love how the American Pravda outlets anyways say "precision missles" so that their audience can feel that innocents aren't being hurt.

Also, the fighters will be starved due to the sanctions but no mention of the people at large

Posted by: My Comment | Jan 23 2024 11:46 utc | 10

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:28 utc | 6

When US is forced to leave Syria or Iraq (either voluntarily or in body bags), Iran will have a much easier time maintaining shipping lanes to Yemen. That enables turning it into an impregnable fortress, which will forever remove the empire and its shipping companies and navies from that corner of Tellus.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 11:48 utc | 11

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:28 utc | 6

If China really wants to assert its free standing, it must react, like Russia did: sitting idle is not an option in the long run.

The PRC is nowhere sitting idle. It may not speak a language that you (or I or the West) understands well but it acting decisively.

Common Russia-China patrols in the Pacific
Military exercises with *mixed* troups

China is diplomatically much less cautious than they used to, too. But their real target audience isn't the West, it is the rest of the world. And I think they're winning that discussion fair and square.

Posted by: Konami | Jan 23 2024 11:51 utc | 12

This has nothing to do with the Houthis stance towards China. US and UK now threaten to interrupt Chinese and Russian traffic through the Red Sea. That is what their presence is about, that is what their air strikes are about.

Either China deals with the Houthis, or no more access for Chinese ships - The US and UK may not be able to defeat the Houthis, but they certainly can deal with Chinese shipping. But that is something they will not publish in their media.

And even if the Chinese don't pressure the Houthis, the blackmail is working - that's why the EU suddenly decided to support US and UK operatios in the Red Sea.

Posted by: Martina | Jan 23 2024 11:58 utc | 13

If only China weren't such a cypher and would make its positions clear.
Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 3

China has made its position clear, it's just that the MSM doesn't report on what goes on at the UN or what diplomats like Lavrov or Wang Yi say. Because Washington doesn't do diplomacy, it only knows to bully, blackmail, and bomb.

The Palestinian envoy to the United Nations called China “a true friend ready to do everything they can to help the Palestinian people” on Thursday, days after Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi pledged Beijing would provide more assistance and push for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3248981/israel-gaza-war-palestinian-envoy-un-thanks-china-true-friend-its-support

As for China (COSCO) shipping no longer servicing Israel, the MSM also has kept mum about such maritime details. John Helmer has pointed this out, suggesting it has to do with, more generally, major shipping companies wanting to keep it opaque, and IIRC that there are things going on like arms shipments moving from South Korea to Ukraine that they want to keep hidden behind the byzantine structures of maritime ownership and registration. Helmer has emphasized that Ansar Allah has been able to uncover the veil to identify Israeli shipping interests.

Posted by: Mastameta | Jan 23 2024 12:04 utc | 14

I saw a report on US telling YPG to make good with the government to 'fight ISIS'. Could be just bullshit, but there is also the possibility the bombing of Yemen is to draw attention away from pulling out of Syria/Iraq. Time will tell.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 12:16 utc | 15

"different" and "forward-leaning"

Israel proposes 2-month fighting pause in Gaza for release of all hostages, Jan 22 "pause concept"

Israel has given Hamas a proposal through Qatari and Egyptian mediators that includes up to two months of a pause in the fighting as part of a multi-phase deal that would include the release of all remaining hostages [dead and alive] held in Gaza, two Israeli officials said.
[...]
President Biden's adviser Brett McGurk travelled to Egypt on Sunday and will continue to Qatar afterward for talks aimed at making progress in the negotiations to secure the release of hostages held by Hamas.
[...]
Two Israeli officials said the Israeli war cabinet approved ten days ago the parameters of a new proposal for a hostage deal, which are different from past aspects of deals rejected by Hamas and more forward-leaning than previous Israeli proposals.

•Israeli officials said they are waiting for a response from Hamas but stressed they are cautiously optimistic about the ability to make progress in the coming days.
• According to the proposal, the deal would include the release of all remaining hostages who are alive and the return of the bodies of dead hostages in several phases. The first phase would see the release of women, men over the age of 60 years old and hostages who are in critical medical condition, the officials said.
• The next phases would include the release of female soldiers, men under the age of 60 years old who are not soldiers, Israeli male soldiers, and the bodies of hostages.

Blinken acknowledged deep divisions over the pause concept. (o7.11.23)

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 12:37 utc | 16

Maybe I'm just too cynical, but the shipping companies are in business first, last and always. It's hard to believe that there aren't plans, at least on some level to just buy these guys off.
Some sort of intermediatory goes to some other intermediatory and says something to the effect of, "This is my ship, it's just carrying doodads and widgets from Guangzhou to Rotterdam, sailing this time, this route with this transponder code. Here's a very nice "transit fee". 25% now and the rest when it's safely in port, would you like that in cash, bullion or crypto?"
Kick back 10% for the Big Man and not even the White House will complain.

Posted by: Jake Dee | Jan 23 2024 12:38 utc | 17

Organ Harvesting in Gaza…..

Earlier in November (2023), Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor expressed concerns about possible organ theft from Palestinian corpses, citing reports by medical professionals in Gaza who examined some bodies after they were released by the Israeli occupation.

The NGO said it has documented Israeli occupation forces confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the Al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south.

It reported that medical professionals found vital organs, such as livers, kidneys and hearts, alongside cochleas and corneas were missing.

The Euro-Med Monitor described the Zionist entity as one of the “world’s biggest hubs for the illegal trade of human organs under the pretext of ‘security deterrence’”.

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2032032

Comment - not the first time ….article from 2009

Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent

Ian Black, Middle East editor @ian_black
Mon 21 Dec 2009 10.10 EST

Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families - a practice it said ended in the 1990s - it emerged at the weekend.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 12:54 utc | 18

Organ Harvesting in Gaza…..

Earlier in November (2023), Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor expressed concerns about possible organ theft from Palestinian corpses, citing reports by medical professionals in Gaza who examined some bodies after they were released by the Israeli occupation.

The NGO said it has documented Israeli occupation forces confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the Al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south.

It reported that medical professionals found vital organs, such as livers, kidneys and hearts, alongside cochleas and corneas were missing.

The Euro-Med Monitor described the Zionist entity as one of the “world’s biggest hubs for the illegal trade of human organs under the pretext of ‘security deterrence’”.

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2032032

Comment - not the first time ….article from 2009

Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent

Ian Black, Middle East editor @ian_black
Mon 21 Dec 2009 10.10 EST

Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families - a practice it said ended in the 1990s - it emerged at the weekend.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 12:54 utc | 19

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 12:37 utc | 16

I couldn't believe it when I heard it last night: give us our hostages back, we will keep the 11,000 Palestinians we have, as soon as we get the Israelis out we will start the genocide again ... this time for real.

Why are people even pretending this makes sense?

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 13:02 utc | 20

All is not well in the middle kingdom.

The "one child policy" had a profound effect on their population, and because they became "psychologically invested" in that policy they now have no wish for multiple children.

And.

Because Chinese were poor they want to "save" and "invest". And being nominally communist, they had few choices as to how they could save and invest. The most legally acceptable way to save and invest was residential housing. So the average Chinese person saves 10 times more than the average American and that savings is invested in "tofu dregs" (shoddy construction) housing that no one is making babies to populate.

And.

After 30 years of the rich West (Old World Order) moving their capital into China to build factories, now the rich westerners are moving their capital and manufacturing elsewhere, out of China creating an unemployment crisis.

I expect more than half of all the vast wealth the Chinese people have saved to be found to be worthless. This is a really big deal and in creating unrest!

Now, more and more Chinese are "laying down flat" and not participating in what has become a proverbial rat-race to get ahead

If "Taiwan" (Republic of China) plaid their cards right, they might position themselves to benefit from the growing unrest and actually take over the mainland if there is a revolt against the Communists Party.

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 21

Israel trying to fast track law to execute Palestinian hostages

Tel Aviv (Quds News Network) – The Israeli Ministry of Justice is working on fast-tracking legislative measures for a new law related to the arrest and trial of thousands of Palestinians who have been detained from the Gaza Strip following the Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7. The new law is expected to include the death penalty, according to Israeli reports.

The new law aims to amend the current detention, investigation, and trial systems outlined in the existing arrest laws. In the meantime, a set of new laws will be enacted due to the “difficulty in collecting and documenting evidence in the field,” as reported by the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth on Tuesday.

One of the challenges the new law will address is the difficulty of determining the party that targeted each of the Israeli fatalities.

Investigations published by the newspaper in the past two weeks confirmed that on October 7, Israeli forces received orders to execute the “Hannibal procedure,” which involved firing upon anyone returning from the Gaza envelope region into the Gaza Strip. This included shooting at Hamas fighters, Palestinian civilians, and Israeli hostages who were held and being transported to the Strip.

The new legislation will also tackle the question of whether all detained Palestinians will be charged with everything that occurred on October 7. The law will determine the nature of the judicial body that will handle the cases of the detainees, whether it will be a regular central court, a military court, or a special court...

Full story on site of qudsnen dot co

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 13:10 utc | 22

Hannibal Directive again. IDF appeared deliberately to bomb its own Tank :

Hamas military wing, Al-Qassam Brigades, announced that its fighter targeted a tank in Khan Younis, adding that the enemy’s war jets struck it after the ground troops failed to pull it due to the clashes.

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2031680

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 13:11 utc | 23

Re "If only China weren't such a cypher and would make its positions clear." and similar.

Russia China Iran all have different cultures and strengths. Each works to there own strengths but coordinating their actions/strategy with the other two. Same as with the "Iran backed" entities.
If push comes to shove, we will see a high tech version of the peasant army that drove the mighty US back to the 38th parallel in Korea.

To much expectation at times for other countries to do a US and appoint themselves the sheriff of the world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:11 utc | 24

Dr Myriam François rips Western hypocrisy as US-UK bombs rain on the poorest country in the world, Yemen, while there is a genocide in Gaza. ‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 11:25 utc | 5

Impressive. She must be of Irish origin ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 13:15 utc | 25

There is another battle. One that we are all participating in.

A false-flag does not come without a cover up. It cannot remain a false-flag if people figure it out.
In other words, the perps of the Oct 7th stand-down false-flag went into it with a cover up plan.

We are seeing it. There are those selling "hubris and incompetence" as the reason that there was a multi-point failure on Oct 7th.
This is the cover up that was planned ahead of time.

And then there are those that recognize that Oct 7th was a day of treachery and betrayal on the part of the Israeli leadership.
It was a stand-down false-flag.

If the latter wins out - it is widely recognized - then it is doomsday for those Zionists in power.

You can participate.

Posted by: librul | Jan 23 2024 13:16 utc | 26

Hannibal Directive again. IDF appeared deliberately to bomb its own Tank :

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 13:11 utc | 22

If all allies forsook Hamas they would still have izzrael's Hannibal Directive on their side.

Potentially their most effective ally to date.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 13:19 utc | 27

@ In 1973 America and Britain were prepared to accept oil prices quadrupling and the destruction of our economies (as they were) to ensure Israel’s survival. Don’t expect any difference now, then the Zionists only had Kissinger and a few others now they have Biden and every western govt under there thumb.
Israel will be the end of all of us.

Posted by: Mark A | Jan 23 2024 10:47 utc | 2

OPEC used the zionist war of 1973 to put its prices up because of the loss of the value of the dollar after it became a petrocurrency.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 23 2024 13:21 utc | 28

Squeeth | Jan 23 2024 13:21 utc | 27

US required that to push through legislation for the Alaska pipeline. It had been held up due to various court actions, environmental and so forth. The legislation basically banned court/legal actions against it. The Alaska pipeline was crucial to going from the gold backed dollar to the petro dollar. Kissinger was very much involved in that strategy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:27 utc | 29

PetarAU,

Did you read through a bit of that thread about Remi the crazy not-sailor ?

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 13:44 utc | 30

"If "Taiwan" (Republic of China) plaid their cards right, they might position themselves to benefit from the growing unrest and actually take over the mainland if there is a revolt against the Communists Party."

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 20

Wow!

Can you please send me whatever you are smoking as it is , obviously, extremely powerful stuff!!!!

How about Canada taking over the US is that in the cards too?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 13:49 utc | 31

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 13:02 utc | 19

Exactly! I hear the gears grinding in the belly of the mechanical elephant: HAMAS has only themselves to blame for HOLDING human shields and OBSTRUCTING the War Cabinet's GENEROUS effort to "minimize damage to civilians"!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 14:07 utc | 32

"If push comes to shove, we will see a high tech version of the peasant army that drove the mighty US back to the 38th parallel in Korea.

To much expectation at times for other countries to do a US and appoint themselves the sheriff of the world."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:11 utc | 23

MacArthur, in my opinion, was an excellent general but in Korea (after the Inchon landing which was a remarkable military success) at the end he severely messed up.

He targeted all the bridges over the Yalu river (which separates North Korea from China) and blew them up with air power so that Chinese reinforcements could not aid the North Korean army-so MacArthur ordered the 8th army to move forwards.

What MacArthur hadn't anticipated was an early freeze on the Yalu river and the poorly equipped Chinese infantry crossed the Yalu and fucked up the eighth army.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 14:09 utc | 33

Basically if a foreign country was flying high altitude bombers like the B-52 over Manhattan dropping huge bombs as Washington does over Yemen and if foreign tanks were crushing inhabited homes in a NY suburb like Israel does in Gaza what would be the reaction of the MSM outlets?

The US military has been arbitrarily bombing others almost since I was born while claiming the moral high ground. They flew the B52 over Vietnam when I was 20 and they are now flying them over Yemen. They won't stop doing that until they experience the same treatment themselves at home I guess. If I were losing workd dominance as the US currently does I would have interest to be friendly with others but those who feel in power in Tel-Aviv and Washington don't need friends. They are excludihg themselves from the future.

Posted by: Richard L | Jan 23 2024 14:13 utc | 34

"If "Taiwan" (Republic of China) plaid their cards right, they might position themselves to benefit from the growing unrest and actually take over the mainland if there is a revolt against the Communists Party."
Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 20

A redux of the same delusion that NATO/Ukraine complex would collapse Russia/Putin.

These people surely are one-directional trouble makers.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Jan 23 2024 14:13 utc | 35

because of the loss of the value of the dollar after it became a petrocurrency.
Posted by: Squeeth | Jan 23 2024 13:21 utc | 27

LOL! Was that before or after Nixon dumped the gold standard? Was that before or after the UNGA passed Resolution 2758? Was that before or after the UNGA passed Resolution 3202? wtaf happened in 1973??

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 14:19 utc | 36

in open sea lanes — China, for example — will demand an end to the shipping crisis that has inflated prices and imperiled lives. Meanwhile, Israel’s plan for more targeted operations in Gaza could mean fewer civilian casualties

Got to love the hasbara chill talk. What's fewer? One child only dismembered instead of dying instantly? What's "more targeted"? That they're running out of bombs and only have the ones for real emergencies and the special ones to turn half the continent into a radioactive wasteland?

How about
Meanwhile, Israel’s plan for more targeted adrenochrome operations could mean fewer (Up To A Whopping 1-3 Less Per Year) children tortured to death

Posted by: Michael A | Jan 23 2024 14:34 utc | 37

If only China weren't such a cypher and would make its positions clear.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 3

China's positions are perfectly clear: An end to western hegemony, multipolarism, improving the lives of the mass of those living on the earth.

It's their means for achieving this that are baffling to westerners. Not surprising, since few know anything about China, now or in the past; and fewer still understand communism.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 23 2024 14:35 utc | 38

Don’t ever let these sick freaks convince you that this is normal.

Much as I like Caitlinn Johnstone, she's quite mistaken; this is how nations/states/empires have always behaved.

ie, this is perfectly normal for psychopaths in leadership positions of polities prosperous (and big) enough to be militarily adventurous.

We need to radically reduce the size, scope and power of our governments and standing militaries, and institute citizens' militias for national defence a la Switzerland

Posted by: Observer | Jan 23 2024 14:45 utc | 39

Impressive. She must be of Irish origin ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 13:15 utc | 24

“François was born in Camden, London, to an Irish mother and a French father”

(quoting CIA-pedia)

… and Arch wins another round!

Posted by: tawharanui | Jan 23 2024 14:46 utc | 40

So, why is Pravda saying that Russian ships are also suffering from the Houthi blockade and that Russian oil will now be more expensive?
https://english.pravda.ru/world/158756-russia_saudi_arabia/

Posted by: Janet | Jan 23 2024 14:58 utc | 41

Either China deals with the Houthis, or no more access for Chinese ships - The US and UK may not be able to defeat the Houthis, but they certainly can deal with Chinese shipping ...

Posted by: Martina | Jan 23 2024 11:58 utc | 13

The Chinese are not going to use force against the Houthis - they're not even prepared to deal with the US Navy in their own claimed "nine-dash line".

The Chinese solution to every problem is always to build around the issue, not try to bomb the issue. Every time, without fail.

Moreover, the Chinese are well aware of the loss of face that will result in getting tangled up with a nation of street brawlers on the other side of the world and well aware that getting on the wrong side of the Houthi will mean decades (centuries?) of ill-will between the Yemeni people and Chinese shipping.

Are there going to be Chinese boots on the ground in Yemen? Nope. The Chinese are smart enough to realise the absolute imbecility of that idea.

Are the Chinese going to start bombing targets in Yemen? Nope. The Chinese are not for wasting good missiles on patches of dry dirt and giving the Americans a good dump of signals intelligence into the bargain.

After all, the Americans and Brits have already done them the favour of showing just how 'effective' bombing Yemen is for getting what you want. China is all about learning from the mistakes of those who move first ...

The Chinese will think a century ahead - unlike the White Man.


For China, any option is better than confronting the Houthi - even going around the Cape of Good Hope. After all, if they sit this one out, once the dust has settled, no matter who wins, they can just go back to shipping through the Red Sea again.

No need to take up the White Man's Burden gratis.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:14 utc | 42

Love how the American Pravda outlets anyways say "precision missles"...
Posted by: My Comment | Jan 23 2024 11:46 utc | 10

Well, somewhat less ridiculous than the old euphemism, surgical strikes.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jan 23 2024 15:14 utc | 43

… and Arch wins another round!

Posted by: tawharanui | Jan 23 2024 14:46 utc | 40

Whoa! My equal-opportunity racism yields predictive results!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:16 utc | 44

... Russian oil will now be more expensive?

Posted by: Janet | Jan 23 2024 14:58 utc | 41

Is Russian oil being more expensive a problem Putin would like to fix, do you think?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:17 utc | 45

Thanks Canuck
I was going to respond to hot pants but I was left speechless by his ignorance of China must be an american where our educational system is going through free fall.

Posted by: Susan | Jan 23 2024 15:20 utc | 46

"If "Taiwan" (Republic of China) plaid their cards right, they might position themselves to benefit from the growing unrest and actually take over the mainland if there is a revolt against the Communists Party."

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 20
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Jan 23 2024 14:13 utc | 35

What's more likely to happen is that one of the many juntas that will arise in China will decide it's time Taiwan joined the mainland again at whatever necessary cost.

The Taiwanese better hope to high heaven that junta is not in possession of the nuclear activation codes.

In fact, the Taiwanese better hope mainland China remains stable for as long as they plan to be effectively independent from the mainland ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:21 utc | 47

@ Jake Dee #17

"It's hard to believe that there aren't plans, at least on some level to just buy these guys off."

Sending payments to a designated terrorist organization could have consequences for a business.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-relists-houthis-terrorists-response-red-sea-attacks-2024-01-17/

Using this sort of thing to generate billions in fines is a significant profit center for the USG so it should
not be taken too lightly.

Posted by: Billb | Jan 23 2024 15:22 utc | 48

Just to point out the obvious: the blockade is not currently caused by the Houthis, who slightly damaged a few ships, but by the large military action by USA and UK. Ships are not passing through because it is now an area of military operation.

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 15:31 utc | 49

How about Canada taking over the US is that in the cards too?

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 13:49 utc | 31

Militia ground forces are currently being assembled in Hornepayne Ontario.

Navel transport is gathering on Manitoulin Island.

Air forces are consolidating after a massive number of giant balloons were purchased from China.

We will push them south driving them from the 44th parallel.

Smoke them if you got them

Posted by: Angelo | Jan 23 2024 15:41 utc | 50

The additional cost to sail around the Cape of Good Hope is not actually that high in percentage terms. Nowhere near proportional to the additional distance.

Posted by: Sentient | Jan 23 2024 15:44 utc | 51

b (quoting Politico):
"But even if all those various elements lined up, it’s still not clear the strategic picture the Houthis care about will shift radically enough for a course correction."

++++++++++++++++++++++++

"course correction"---does that sound as smug and patronizing to others as it sounds to me?

Gag me with a spoon!

As for "Meanwhile, Israel’s plan for more targeted operations in Gaza could mean fewer civilian casualties, which would weaken the Houthis’ case for rising to the Palestinians’ defense. An end to the war would remove that rallying cry." (Politico)

Tell me, Politico, how many "fewer casualties" would be acceptable to the Houthis, do you think, and "weaken their case"? This language is completely amoral but the writers don't seem to notice.

And who defines "end of the war"? The Zionist (and by extension British) war on Palestinians has been ongoing since prior to 1948.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 23 2024 15:45 utc | 52

Dun Groanin @ 5
"Dr Myriam François rips Western hypocrisy as US-UK bombs rain on the poorest country in the world, Yemen, while there is a genocide in Gaza. ‘

https://nitter.net/sahouraxo/status/1749593098852655413#mI’m
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The creep in the video looks like the certified international Zionist creep Bill Browder. The name in the caption looked like Bill Rutter (ha ha) or something.

If it is not Bill Browder, it is a separated at birth twin.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 23 2024 15:53 utc | 53

@ 16
"Israel has given Hamas a proposal through Qatari and Egyptian mediators that includes up to two months of a pause in the fighting as part of a multi-phase deal that would include the release of all remaining hostages [dead and alive] held in Gaza, two Israeli officials said." (quote)

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Surely that would entail also the release of all Palestinians detained by the Zionists . . . No??????

Wasn't one of Hamas's aims on Oct. 7 to take hostages to trade for their own people?

I can't imagine Hamas will go for releasing their hostages while thousands of Pal men, women, and children remain in Is detention, many of them being seriously mistreated (unlike the Pals' hostages).

This whole thing is a PR disaster for the Is govt.
Why should Hamas agree to fix their problem?
Only to be attacked anew after relinquishing the gains made on and since Oct. 7?

Israel's offer is beyond cynical.
Israel is the one holding all Palestinian and especially Gazan lives hostage, not Hamas.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 23 2024 16:04 utc | 54

If it is not Bill Browder, it is a separated at birth twin.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 23 2024 15:53 utc | 53

It's Bill Browner, the shittier version of Bill Browder.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 16:05 utc | 55

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:27 utc | 29
In addition to what PeterAU1 says about the alaska pipeline and the petrodollar the shah of Iran revealed that it was the US and not OPEC who requested the price rise. The rationale was that the gains made by the oil sheiks were to be invested in the west

William Engdahl writes about it in a previous edition of Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics & the New World Order
I dont know what he altered in the edition from 2021

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jan 23 2024 16:22 utc | 56

The CCP is interested in self preservation more that anything else. They care more anout absolute control of their population (just like zionists in ghe US). They are afraid to do anything, perhaps with good reason. Imagine if China had the heart of Russia, or Yemen - the heart of a lion. But greed and selfishness are diametrically opposed to that ethos.

Posted by: Áobh Ó'Sheachnasaigh | Jan 23 2024 16:30 utc | 57

thanks b....

caitlin johnstone in that one line says a lot - ...."and where the most powerful empire in history declares a war to defend shipping containers at the cost of human life." this is another aspect to the descending empires collapse...

Posted by: james | Jan 23 2024 16:42 utc | 58

The US and UK may not be able to defeat the Houthis, but they certainly can deal with Chinese shipping.

Posted by: Martina | Jan 23 2024 11:58 utc | 13

How can they deal with Chinese shipping? Attack a Chinese vessel in a false flag? There are Chinese warships there, they have a base on the opposite shore in Africa and can send more ships from China itself.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 16:45 utc | 59

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 21

Anti-China MSM talking points copy/pasted here. The give away is the use of the term “communist party”.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 23 2024 16:47 utc | 60

While I don't trust China not one bit, it is to the benefit of both Russia and China that their vessels are allowed to pass unhindered through the Red Sea. But will the West stand idly by while most of the movement of trade goods accrues to Russian and Chinese shipping? Nope, the West will not stand by and look on while most of the world's trade is transported via Russian and Chinese shipping while the West's ships stand idle. The West was built on sea power and sea trade after all.

But the West cannot do anything to stop the situation, yet allowing such a situation to continue would be admitting that the West's hegemony days are over. So the West will just double down on supporting its shipping and Israel's, in the hope that something will come long in time which will rescue the West from this ghastly situation. Hopefully b is correct about China. Keep up the good work Houthis.

The West will of course start targeting Russian and Chinese shipping with captured / cloned Houthi drones and then blaming it on the Houthis, but the Russians and Chinese can build ships faster and cheaper than the West can.

Posted by: gT | Jan 23 2024 17:01 utc | 61

Phil Miller at Declassified UK gives the details of Britain's involvement. The present Prime Minister is the ninth in less than a century to authorise the bombing of Yemen.
In fact Yemen has the world record for being an imperialist target- going back to 1928 when the mountain city of Dhalla was bombed in the hope of restoring British allies in the Aden Protectorate to office.
In fact Aden's military was run by the Royal Air Force because the only threat that the British saw came from the predecessors of the Houthis, encouraging their fellow countrymen to throw off British rule.
My guess is that the entire Saudi war in recent years was a British project, and that it was a way of pumping oil money out of Riyadh into the British economy.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/rishi-sunak-is-ninth-uk-prime-minister-to-bomb-yemen-from-air/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 17:06 utc | 62

@ bevin | Jan 23 2024 17:06 utc | 62

Axtually, Yemen was targeted even during the Ottoman Empire, and the Yemeni tribes saw the Ottomans off.

They are notorious for being tough and lacking fucks to give.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 23 2024 17:12 utc | 63

Here is the only deal the Palestinians should accept:
- Permanent cease fire
- Return of the 11K West Bank and Gaza political prisoners held in IDF prisons in Israel.
- Release of all hostages
- Complete opening of the Rafah crossing point to all food, water and medical aid - no daily truck restrictions allowed
- Allow international medical teams immediate access to Gaza
- Complete withdrawal of all IDF forces from Gaza and the West Bank

No deal ? Then no hostage release!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 23 2024 17:20 utc | 64

@ bevin | Jan 23 2024 17:06 utc | 62

good overview on the warmongering nation of uk...thanks..

Posted by: james | Jan 23 2024 17:32 utc | 65

Feral Finster | Jan 23 2024 17:12 utc | 63
Absolutely. Yemen is the one unconquered nation within thousands of miles. And not because it has not always been a very tempting target. It is hard to conceive of the Yemeni using planes- I think that Mussloini sold them a couple in the thirties- in war.
They would regard it as dishonourable to kill women and children because you dare not face the men on the ground.
That is a measure of how primitive and uneducated they are!

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 17:36 utc | 66

"China's one-child policy, low fertility, high rate of saving and investment, and its over-extended housing sector..."

China's low fertility rate, even as the one-child policy was relaxed, has not been due to a "hangover" from the one-child policy. The fertility rate is low for the same reasons that fertility is low among other East Asian populations and among ethnic European populations: children are increasingly viewed as too expensive, and people have sought other means to finance retirement. The high rate of saving and investment is likewise found among other East Asian populations. To be sure, the housing sector is massively over-extended, but economic growth can continue, and there is plenty of scope to raise the official retirement ages for men and women (which are currently well below Western standards). Accounting standards need to be strengthened to build trust in stock markets to replace housing to some extent as an investment vehicle. Teenage unemployment is currently a problem, but companies in major cities now offer free delivery of all kinds of goods and services, and young people have many opportunities to work to bring products conveniently to people's doorsteps.

Just returned from a multi-month stay in Shanghai. As an American, it was refreshing to see so many well-behaved people and a no-nonsense approach to crime and even driving offenses.

Posted by: greg | Jan 23 2024 17:49 utc | 67

Intel agencies in the US at least have a huge problem and, in fact, have had this problem for quite some time. If accurate information undermines the current political balance of power in an administration it will likely be ignored. If you use a variant of game-theory you will find that the movement is always towards telling the higher-ups what they want to hear even if the opposite is true. There is a lot of upside to bullshit and a lot of downside to the truth. This always happens in authoritarian power-relations and has always happened. We don't have an Emperor as such (the POTUS is no longer the central authority) but we have an oligarchy with certain interests that must always be asserted. If you tell the wrong person what you really believe that goes contrary to policy you will never have a good career or will lose out in either the military, intel, State Department or, in more recent times, the media. I've been around the Washington milieu.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Jan 23 2024 17:51 utc | 68

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 10:45 utc | 1

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It is laughable because most Americans have no idea of the safety, cleanliness, and standard of living in the developed parts of the Middle East. They think New York and Los Angeles are elite modern cities in the world.

Don't get me started on San Francisco or Chicago ...

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 23 2024 17:57 utc | 69

It should be clear to all that The Hostages are not an effective bargaining chip.

Hannibal Directive; NuttyYahoo, Creep Zio Biden and all the ziocreeps.

They care only about The Trade, the Shipping, the petro products at Gaza.

The hostages serve as a prop.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jan 23 2024 18:11 utc | 70

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Jan 23 2024 17:20 utc | 65

No deal ? Then no hostage release!

- State of Palestine recognized by the UN with seat on UNGA
- Security protection pledged from Turkey-Iran-S.A.-Russia
- Withdrawal by all Israelis out of all West Bank communities,
no more checkpoints or barriers; Gaza open, no Israeli checks in Egypt, free protected passage between it and West Bank;
- $50 Billion reparations for Gaza and West Bank damage to lives and infrastructure payable immediately.

Otherwise, no deal!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 23 2024 18:12 utc | 71

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 3

Make its position clear. The US is the bellowing jackal followed by its pack. China is the forest and the mountain.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 23 2024 18:16 utc | 72

If "Taiwan" (Republic of China) plaid their cards right, they might position themselves to benefit from the growing unrest and actually take over the mainland if there is a revolt against the Communists Party.

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 23 2024 13:08 utc | 21

I have been reading forecasts about the imminent fall of the PRC for x & y plausible sounding reasons since I got on the internet at the beginning of the century, back when the best the PLAN could muster was a couple of import Sovremenny DDGs and they still had steam in mainline service but this one takes the cake. Did you come up with it on your own?

Posted by: Satepestage | Jan 23 2024 18:17 utc | 73

Usuk bombed Yemeni storage sites, conveniently located in tunnels under Yemeni hospitals...

Posted by: Peter b | Jan 23 2024 18:43 utc | 74

Monday night’s moves marked the eighth round of allied attacks

You mean "All Lied" attacks.

Posted by: c matt | Jan 23 2024 18:49 utc | 75

Israhell is self sufficient in nothing so this scenario is far more devastating than MSM lets on. Especially as most of their industry is based on JIT, just in time logistics. LOL A wrinkle that I find intriguing is that vessel operators are reflagging their vessels as Chinese. In droves. Chinese vessels are safer basically, because of the countrys actions on the international stage. Their insurance costs WILL eventually reflect this because thats how the industry works. Sal at Whats New With Shippping IMO correctly observes that this is a type of hybrid warfare never seen before. The implications are enormous. What are the implications when the majority of sea transport on the planet is Chinese? I am strongly suspicious that this is part of a worldwide plan to dethrone the Hegemon.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jan 23 2024 18:53 utc | 76

MK Bhardakumar is always worth reading. Today's column should not be missed.
He is discussing the importance of the relationship between North Korea and Russia. He starts at the beginning with Stalin's deliberate provocation of the US to join the Korean war. That succeeded. And now, decades later, the original vision-of an alliance betwen Russia, the North Koreans and China- is bearing fruit.

"...What distinguishes great powers like Russia is the sheer profundity of their historical consciousness to co-relate time past with time present and to comprehend that the germane seeds of time future are largely to be found embedded in time past. After all, time cannot be treated in abstraction but as the vital ground of human reality. That must be one reason why there is such agonising speculation in the US today regarding the recent surge in Russia-DPRK ties.

"The White House’s senior director for arms control Pranay Vaddi said last Thursday that the nature of the security threat posed by North Korea could change “drastically” in the coming decade as a result of its unprecedented cooperation with Russia. “What we’re seeing between Russia and North Korea is an unprecedented level of cooperation in the military sphere,” Vaddi told Washington’s Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank. He added, “And I say ‘unprecedented’ very deliberately — We have never seen this before.” ....

"...In politics, the underdog often starts the fight — and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win, but seldom does. Hamas, the Houthis, Kim — it’s always fun to surprise people. For, it puts less pressure on them, as they’re only a winning mindset away from battles that could transform an underdog into a champion and achiever. Putin’s journey to Pyongyang will be carefully watched by the Biden administration.

"Andrey Sushentsov, a prominent Russian pundit, wrote recently, “Our confrontation with the Americans will last for a long time, although we will see certain pauses… Russia’s task will be to create a network of relationships with like-minded states, which may even eventually include some from the West. The US strategy is to forcibly extinguish points of strategic autonomy, which Washington succeeded in doing in Western Europe in the first phase of the Ukraine crisis, but that move was one of the last successes in this regard.."
https://www.indianpunchline.com/geopolitics-is-moving-north-koreas-way/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 19:31 utc | 77

Stopping the houthis is simple, as they themselves have spelled out.

Israel leaves the gaza strip and allows humanitarian aid in.

Therefore only Israel can stop it, by essentially declaring defeat in gaza. I'm not holding my breath as they are quite happy to starve every single person in there and don't give a shit about us and European interests.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 23 2024 19:33 utc | 78

I personally have absolutely no experience of war, tactics, etc., but even I can come up with the idea that Ansar Allah could erect fake missiles and launchers using merely lathes and canvas dug into uninhabited hillsides, which will be sufficient to fool satellite and drone reconnaissance, plus cheap radar sets in similar locations. They have been fighting the Saudis long enough to have learned that elementary lesson. If they are not doing that then they shouldn't be at war. I believe that they should be at war, in defence of Gaza, as no-one else seems to have the guts. These boys certainly do.

Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Jan 23 2024 19:35 utc | 79

A guaranteed way to lose a war is to assume your opponents are idiots.

America, Europe and NATO have been threatening China with war, for some years now.

How delusional must they be to assume that China would do anything, anything at all, to put them in a better position to start, let alone win, a war against China?

When China can instead greatly improve its position by doing nothing? Nothing but sit back, eat popcorn and watch the west destroy itself, waste its resources on pointless skirmishes and alienating the rest of world?

Posted by: Marvin | Jan 23 2024 19:38 utc | 80

Posted by: Observer | Jan 23 2024 14:45 utc | 39

"We need to radically reduce the size, scope and power of our governments..."

I have to disagree there. I'm inclined to support full citizen-led democracy with all decisions taken by consensus, which entails the "government" being equal in size to the entire registered voting population of each respective society, which, in turn, is actually enormous government. It's just that it is government without a corrupt minority controlling the levers.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jan 23 2024 19:58 utc | 81

That was quick!

ChatGPT-timesofisrael-APsplainin, Hamas said to reject Israeli offer of two-month pause in war for release of hostages, Jan 23 4 hrs ago

said a senior Egyptian official on Tuesday, speaking to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The official said that Hamas leaders have also refused to leave Gaza and are demanding that Israel fully withdraw from the territory and allow Palestinians to return to their homes.

Israel did not confirm the report. Channel 12 [!] news quoted unnamed Israeli officials saying on Tuesday evening that Israel has not been informed of Hamas rejecting the offer. Under Israel’s proposal, Yahya Sinwar and other top Hamas leaders in Gaza would be allowed to relocate to other countries.
[...]

LOL!
The offer stipulated that Israel will not agree to end the war completely, nor release all 6,000 Palestinian security prisoners, but Israeli officials told Axios that they were willing to release a significant number.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 20:02 utc | 82

"In 1973 America and Britain were prepared to accept oil prices quadrupling and the destruction of our economies (as they were) to ensure Israel’s survival. Don’t expect any difference now, then the Zionists only had Kissinger and a few others now they have Biden and every western govt under there thumb.
Israel will be the end of all of us".
Posted by: Mark A | Jan 23 2024 10:47 utc | 2

That’s very true. But their medias did not tell us, you have to pay for the Israel support of your gouvernment, they invented the Oil crises that came from heaven or evel Arabs to us.

The corrosive problem of the US empire is that they have to represent Israel's interests and their interests equally, although one has to ask oneself whether Israel's interests are not more important. In Iraq it was about Israel, in Libya, in Syria too, of course, and one day they will attack Iran too, that's for sure - so much they love Israel, or better the jewish Bilionaire Donors, who keep US-Politics shitting.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Jan 23 2024 20:37 utc | 83

... Russian oil will now be more expensive?

Posted by: Janet | Jan 23 2024 14:58 utc | 41

Is Russian oil being more expensive a problem Putin would like to fix, do you think?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:17 utc | 45

From what I can see as one of Russia's problem is getting paid in rupees. India buys the Russian oil in rupees at a significant discount and arbitrages it, sells most of it to Europe or whatever where they have oil sanctions/price fix on Russian oil.

Rupees don't have much liquidity and India doesn't produce enough stuff that Russia wants at this time so Russia gets stuck with unwanted rupees.

Modi is laughing all the way to be bank-he and Erdogan are masters at playing the double game between East and West...

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 20:39 utc | 84

US/UK strategy is very clear: to drag China into the game. But their tactic is lost to most commenters here: to increase the cost of Chinese products to Europe and most of the world.

The most obvious way is to increase military uncertainties in the Red Sea. But that itself probably doesn't work, and Chinese / Russian ships are not being attacked by Houthis. So, they would try to create bottleneck in the area, and to impede Chinese products in other ways, e.g. increase the insurance costs of their container ships. And if this still doesn't work, the West will sooner or later come up with legislation, custom clearance regulations or whatever rules they can think of, in their ports to restrict Chinese products (a.k.a. rule based order).

There are parallels to it. When Russia forbids airspace to Western/Japan airlines, Chinese airlines enjoyed advantages to fly to Europe and US. Eventually, the west comes up with rules to forbid Chinese airplanes the landing rights if they fly over Russian airspace.

The base line thinking is: if I am not doing well, won't allow Chinese to enjoy the rewards of their works.

Posted by: d dan | Jan 23 2024 20:39 utc | 85

Interesting. Note also that 'anti-semitism' is not an accusation you can level at the Chinese. Most Chinese have to have the concept 'Jew' explained to them, usually by analogy with diasporic Chinese populations! But it is precisely because China sits completely outside the sphere that tradition that its actions can direct attention toward the problem of Israel's behaviour. If you can't accuse them of hating Jews (what's a 'Jew'?) then one is left with a thoroughly human explanation: land grab, resource grab, trade routes, markets, etc. China has a historically unique capacity to debunk all the Zionist rhetoric here and should use it.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2024 20:42 utc | 86

Jon_in_AU | Jan 23 2024 19:58 utc | 82

I completely agree. And would add that the difficulties in the way of instituting such a system (re-instituting it really) in complex modern societies are all capable of being solved, easily.
If we do not develop such a real democracy we are headed inevitably to a tyranny of unprecedented and probably unbreakable solidity- the 'evolution' from the possibility of freedom to the life of a bee in a hive*.

* I use this as a metaphor I know nothing of the real lives of bees.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 23 2024 21:12 utc | 87

I cannot but praise Defence Politics Asia enough.

If you want to actually know what is going on on the Ukraine battle front it is the place to go. he is very, very, very careful to indicate his sources and tells us when the Ukrainian and russian sources agree and when they do not.

It certainly seems that the Russians are having some big breakthroughs in some areas, especially in Avdiivka.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 23 2024 21:43 utc | 88

Posted by: d dan | Jan 23 2024 20:39 utc | 86

The thing is, China is actually a socialist country, and they don't need trade for currency to realize 'profits,' as the capitalists do. Europe doesn't really have much of anything the Chinese need, and they can get what they do need from Russia, Iran and others. The point of China's swerve into capitalism was to acquire technology, build up the base of production, and build up an effective labor pool and educational/research establishment. That's all a done deal. The other thing the Chinese do with money is complicate the motives of their enemies, and help develop other nations. It's the west that needs China, because China makes stuff, and the deindustrialized EU can't eat Euros.

The Chinese approach is not to go to extremes to attack western economies, but let them injure themselves as much as they can stand, meanwhile keeping things as 'normal' as possible. This has been very effective so far, I see no reason to expect it to change any time soon.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 23 2024 22:09 utc | 89

- Seems the one and only goal of US government officials (Blinken, Biden, Sullivan, ..... ) right now is to make as much money as possible before the current administration is voted out of office.

Posted by: WMG | Jan 23 2024 22:17 utc | 90

"The offer stipulated that Israel will not agree to end the war completely, nor release all 6,000 Palestinian security prisoners, but Israeli officials told Axios that they were willing to release a significant number."

If the above is correct it signals a desire to deescalate. Even the two month offer to me signals a desire by the Israeli war cabinet to switch gears, in my opinion they have determined that the current situation is not working in Israeli favor, which is what others have been saying since the start of the conflict. The irony is most of the damage has already been done and is irreversible especially morally, Israel has lost all moral authority with the greater world at large.

I believe the US is also putting pressure on the Israeli's to end this as it looks like Russia is escalating in Ukraine and the Iraqi militias are showing the capability to get past Patriot PAC-3 air defenses as well as capability to bring down ISR(the Predator/Reaper downing), no doubt the same groups have been provided ManPads capability. This is capability the Iraqi insurgency and the Taliban could only dream of during their conflict with the USA. No doubt said militias also have drones at their disposal.

You couple this with the Houthis/Iranian/Hezbolah/Syria/Russia capabilities in the middle east and the fact that proxy groups abound whom modern weaponry can be funneled to, you have a situation which cannot be solved via military action.

Perhaps some in the US leadership have woken up to the fact they may have been led into a trap by the other side.

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 23 2024 22:26 utc | 91

- In the last say 3 months Blinken visited Ukraine and he said "we have made a investment" and now I start to understand what he meant. Blinken actually said "We are filling / lining our pockets"(with money).

Posted by: WMG | Jan 23 2024 22:28 utc | 92

Salaam-Tobias @65-good intentions,yeah OK! Now how is the "permanent ceasfire" to be monitored and by whom? Any enforceable penalties for violating said ceasefire? With a history like that of the Izzs,examples abound ,like the many UN resolutions they have kept by violating said resolutions? One state Palestine.

Posted by: 4q8 | Jan 23 2024 22:30 utc | 93

Houthis have a few things to learn from the Taliban how to beat the US, UK, etc. coalition.

The sooner they master sea mines the better.

Posted by: Jason | Jan 23 2024 22:43 utc | 94

CNN UPDATE!

Israel is ready to put out the fire 23 Jan

[...]
"Hamas" - on the way out
CNN sources give other details of Israel's LOL! peace proposal. Allegedly, the leadership of the Israeli special services, as part of the deal, offers to allow high-ranking representatives of Hamas to leave Gaza.
"The extraordinary proposal, which has not been previously reported, comes as Israel has struggled to achieve its stated goal of completely destroying Hamas. Despite its nearly four-month war in Gaza, Israel has failed to capture or kill any of Hamas's most senior leaders in Gaza and left around 70% of Hamas' fighting force intact, according to Israel's own estimates."
Israel's Mossad director of Intelligence, David Barney, met at least twice with CIA Director William Burns and Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abderrahman Al Thani to discuss a future truce [sic] with Hamas, according to the channel. The main point of negotiations was the ceasefire [sic], the release of [Israeli-*] hostages and the future of Gaza.
Among other things, there was an unexpected offer of guarantees that members of Hamas will be able to leave the besieged sector [ENCLAVE]. Since the beginning of the military operation in Gaza, Israel has not been able to capture or kill anyone from the top of the Palestinian group in the enclave. The biggest" loot " was the assassination of one of the leaders of the politburo [sic], Saleh al-Aruri, in Beirut.

CNN cites estimates from Israeli intelligence agencies: after almost four months of fighting in the Gaza strip, 70% of Hamas' combat forces remained intact. Most of the senior members of the Palestinian movement's politburo live in Qatar and Lebanon, not in Gaza. In November, Prime Minister Netanyahu said that he had "instructed the Mossad to act against the leaders of Hamas, wherever they are." And the head of Israel's internal security agency, Ronen Bahr, promised to "eliminate Hamas worldwide, even if it takes years."
[...]

suckers!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 22:44 utc | 95

If those Israeli ceasefire proposals are true, then it signals the internal Israeli leadership(War Cabinet, elites, etc) are ready to follow a different path the current scorched earth strategy. They may be coming to the realization that this was a trap, especially that Houthi strategy with the shipping, it's amazing to think that Houthis have managed to be the moral authority on this whole issue. If Israel is not careful, they may be on the end of a worldwide boycott much as South Africans were.

I wouldn't be surprised now if we see the proxies escalate to see if they can bait the Israeli's/US to keep their current strategy going. Russia is now patrolling the Syria/Israel border, the ballistic missile attacks which the PAC-3s cannot stop.

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 23 2024 22:59 utc | 96

Squeeth | Jan 23 2024 13:21 utc | 28
*** OPEC used the zionist war of 1973 to put its prices up because of the loss of the value of the dollar after it became a petrocurrency.***

Can recall reading years ago that the Saudi chief negotiator said his side were puzzled because the US officials were actually urging them to charge more than they had intended to.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 22:59 utc | 97

From Middle East Eye:

In a joint statement released on Tuesday, Britain announced that a coalition of 24 countries, including the United States, Germany, and Australia, carried out further strikes on Monday, targeting eight locations in Yemen's Houthi-held regions.

"In response to continued illegal and reckless Houthi attacks against vessels transiting the Red Sea and surrounding waterways, the armed forces of the United States and United Kingdom, with support from Australia, Bahrain, Canada, the Netherlands, and New Zealand, conducted additional strikes against eight targets in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen," a joint statement issued by the British prime minister's office said.

"These strikes were designed to disrupt and degrade the capability of the Houthis to continue their attacks on global trade and innocent mariners from around the world, while avoiding escalation."

Posted by: JB | Jan 23 2024 23:11 utc | 98

# The notion that China will intervene re Houthi blockade/attacks in Red Sea is pure nonsense

# The Houthis are thrilled to be attacked by US/UK - it simply lends legitimacy to their politics and ideology

@Ansar Allah

Respect. احترام

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jan 23 2024 23:51 utc | 99

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jan 23 2024 23:51 utc | 102

Most people don't understand the prime purpose of BRI is to secure land routes for China and not be restraint by sea routes where US has achieved complete naval domination.

Posted by: Surferket | Jan 24 2024 0:08 utc | 100

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