Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 25, 2024
After U.S. Again Bombed Yemen, Houthi Attack DoD Transport Ships

Two days ago I discussed the reported hope the Biden administration has to get China’s help in the U.S. conflict with Yemen.

To Hope That China Will Help With Yemen Is Delusional BullshitMoon of Alabama, Jan 23, 2024

Chinese ship do not get bothered by Yemini forces. They only targeted ships were related to Israel and, since the U.S. and UK bombed Houthi positions, ships related to those countries are also under attack.

We have now learned why U.S. officials had expressed hope for Chinese help. The Financial Times reports of previous backroom talks with China about the issue.

US urges China to help curb Red Sea attacks by Iran-backed Houthis (archived) – FT – Jan 24, 2024

The US has asked China to urge Tehran to rein in Iran-backed Houthi rebels attacking commercial ships in the Red Sea, but has seen little sign of help from Beijing, according to American officials.

Officials have repeatedly raised the matter with top Chinese officials in the past three months, asking them to convey a warning to Iran not to inflame tensions in the Middle East after Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel and the ensuing war.

US national security adviser Jake Sullivan and his deputy, Jon Finer, discussed the issue in meetings this month in Washington with Liu Jianchao, head of the Chinese Communist party’s international department, according to US officials. Secretary of state Antony Blinken also raised it, said a state department official.

This is so laughable that it is nearly sad.

Again, Chinese ships do net get bothered by Yemen. That other ships now have to avoid the Red Sea route and take an extra 14 days to sail around Africa gives China’s container fleet a business advantage. So why did anyone in the White House even thought about asking China for help?

As Lambert Strether at Naked Capitalism snarked about asking for Chinese help:

Before we go to war with them, or after?

Last night the U.S. Navy tried to escort two U.S. owned and flagged container carriers, the Maersk Detroit and Maersk Chesapeake, through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait into the Red Sea.

The Yemenis responded by firing three anti ship missiles at them. Two missile were intercepted by a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Gravely, but one exploded near to one of the container carriers:

The U.S. Central Command confirmed details of the incident in a statement posted to “X”.

“On Jan. 24 at approximately 2 p.m. (Sanaa time), Iranian-backed Houthi terrorists fired three anti-ship ballistic missiles from Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen toward the U.S.-flagged, owned, and operated container ship M/V Maersk Detroit, transiting the Gulf of Aden. One missile impacted in the sea. The two other missiles were successfully engaged and shot down by the USS Gravely (DDG 107). There were no reported injuries or damage to the ship,” the statement said.

These were not purely civilian ships involved in the private transport of consumer goods:

The Maersk Detroit and Maersk Chesapeake are operated by Maersk Line, Limited (MLL), Maersk’s US-flag subsidiary. Both ships are enrolled in the U.S. Maritime Administration’s Maritime Security Program and Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement (VISA) with the U.S government.

Maersk said the vessels are carrying cargo belonging to the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Department of State, USAID, and other U.S. government agencies and “is therefore afforded the protection of the U.S. Navy for passage.”

As a result, Maersk Line, Limited has made the decision to suspend transits in the region in until further notice, a significant development considering MLL’s role in transporting U.S. military and government cargo. MLL is not only the largest owner and operator of US flag vessels trading internationally, but also the largest participant in the VISA/MSP programs.

These ships were most likely carrying munitions for Israel. The U.S. Navy lost the battle as the ships could not pass.

The incident happened twelve hours after the U.S. and UK had bombed Yemeni positions for the 9th time.

CENTCOM reported of the strike:

On Jan. 24 at approximately 2:30 a.m.(Sanaa time), U.S. Central Command forces conducted strikes against two Houthi anti-ship missiles that were aimed into the Southern Red Sea and were prepared to launch. U.S. forces identified the missiles in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen and determined that they presented an imminent threat to merchant vessels and the U.S. Navy ships in the region. U.S. forces subsequently struck and destroyed the missiles in self-defense. This action will protect freedom of navigation and make international waters safer and more secure for U.S. Navy vessels and merchant vessels.

This is, again, clear evidence that bombing the Yemeni Houthi government forces has zero impact on their capabilities and motivation. It, in fact, encourages them to try harder.

The whole U.S. policy of ‘helping Israel’ by (unsuccessfully) countering the Houthi blockade of Israel related ships was wrong from the very beginning. The unsuccessful blockade run by U.S. DoD transports proves that it has failed.

But the whole operation has increased the cost for transporting goods between the Europe and Asia and endangers ships unrelated to the conflict.

The Houthi announced their blockade for Israel related ships in the Red Sea on December 9 2023. The U.S. announced, on December 21, a coalition to protect Israeli related shipping in the Red Sea. Only after that had happened did the traffic through the Suez channel decrease.


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Now ask how the populations in Europe (and Asia) will feel about the U.S. operation when price inflation, induced by such U.S. actions, will again hit them where it hurts them most.

Comments

pq you imo are completely misunderstanding what just happened.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:52 utc | 201

The director of the CIA, the head of the Qatari government, the head of Egyptian intelligence, the head of the Mossad, and the head of the Shin Bet will meet in Europe.
Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 26 2024 9:21 utc | 160

These guys can now talk about the ICJ judgement amongst themselves.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 12:52 utc | 202

The International Criminal Court in The Hague states that South Africa has shown enough evidence that the case against Israel is valid, that genocide is possibly being comitted, and that provisional measures will be taken
“Israel’s actions in Gaza following October 7 may constitute genocide, with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a particular ethnic group, the Palestinians’
‘There is an immediate risk of irrepairable harm to the Palestinians as an ethnic group’
0International Criminal Court announces provisional measures
Israel must immediately cease:
1. Killing members of the ethnic group (Palestinians).
2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
3. Deliberately inflicting measures upon the group that could indirectly result in harm.
4. Preventing births from happening within the group.
The court orders Israel to report to the ICC within one month, to submit proof that it has taken the necessary action to abide by the provisional measures as ordered by the court

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 26 2024 12:52 utc | 203

International Criminal Court in The Hague:
– The court has ruled 15 to 2, that the State of Israel must immediately abide by all the provisional measures as ordered by the court.
– The court has ruled 16 to 1 that anyone who incites genocide against the Palestinian people must face immediate punishment by the Israeli authorities.
– The court has ruled 15 to 2 that the State of Israel must prevent the destruction, and commit to the preservation, of any evidence of its crimes against the Palestinians.
– The court had ruled 15 to 2 that the State of Israel must immediately stop any action that could possibly fall under the scope of genocide

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 26 2024 12:53 utc | 204

i dont know who the hell the Ugandan judge is, why is she so invested in protecting genocide?
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:45 utc | 191

Did you miss that whole Idi Amin thing?
And then there’s that Idi-adjacent Paul Kagame thing….

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 12:53 utc | 205

Also thanks and congrats to South Africa for presenting such a watertight case to the ICJ!!!

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 26 2024 12:54 utc | 206

why? they are supporting the SA case in almost every respect.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:50 utc | 197
Exactly, support it in every respect but the main one: ceasefire. What aid can be distributed if Israel continues bombing and sniping and killing?
Saying “prevent killing” is meaningless.
It’s a huge victory for Israel. And Hamas was ordered to release hostages but Israel was not ordered to release hostages WHO ARE BEING TORTURED.
This is really bad.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:55 utc | 207

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 12:53 utc | 205
the Idi Amin thing is not evidence for why Uganda would support Israel, since Israel attacked him. of course the Liberty incident didn’t dissuade the US, but i dont think Amin ever changed course on Israel.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:56 utc | 208

South Africa will not be happy with the courts failure to order a cease in hostilities.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 12:56 utc | 209

When you put this ruling together with the HUGE ARMS SHIPMENT sent to Israel it’s clear:
nobody outside Empire is allwoed to challenged Empire.
Telling Israel to prevent killing is like telling Israel to consider Palestinians as equal to them.
This is exactly what Craig Murray had feared.
How hard is it to say: CEASIRE NOW. CEASFIRE YESTERDAY!!!!

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:58 utc | 210

The ICJ has stood up for International Law, in contrast to the US’s farcical “rules-based order”.
I honestly expected the ICJ to fold under IS/US/uk pressure.
Thank the heavens that I was wrong.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 12:59 utc | 211

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 12:56 utc | 209
i dont think it can right now, because it is not addressing the merits of the case yet but what it did order is an immediate cessation of possibly genocidal actions by Israel, which in effect is the same thing, no? now what effect this will have on Israel’s actions is another question, Israel has already said it would ignore the court.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:59 utc | 212

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:55 utc | 207
pq it ordered Israel to immediately cease genocidal actions. that would include indiscriminate bombing.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:01 utc | 213

No one has given a proper update on how the every day Israelis feel about the British government called Israel in the middle east and in the USA white house? Seems to me the British gave up the pound hedgemon at Bretton Woods in exchange for military support and dollar support from the USA for British Interest worldwide?
I blame the British for WWI, WWII, and WWIII. and for the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine.
Posted by: snake | Jan 26 2024 12:39 utc | 190
Blame the City controlled by the Anglo Zionists for the world wars the British government has little to do with it.
“I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls the British money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”
Nathan Rothschild 1815

Posted by: canuck | Jan 26 2024 13:01 utc | 214

I’m looking at the judgment quoted by Hankster and am seeing a clear demand from the ICJ for Israel to end its destruction of Gaza.
But so many here are saying it will be allowed to continue.
What am I missing?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:02 utc | 215

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 12:59 utc | 211
correct, i was wrong. I was expecting the ICJ to cave in. it was a complete reversal of what I expected it to do. and 15-2 or 16-1 yet. the only opponents were the Israeli judge (shock) and the Ugandan judge.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:03 utc | 216

Neither the Palestinian hostages in Israeli jails nor the Israeli hostages were even part of this case. The court had no need to mention them.
Fucking gutless judges.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:03 utc | 217

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:59 utc | 212
The court has taken the Bosnia option rather than the Maymar option especially since there is a need of desperation.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:04 utc | 218

@ pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:56 utc | 208
Paul Kagame, and a historically challenged remembrance by Idi’s successors about what the man was truly responsible for. Rather like those folk who fondly memorialize Pinochet, as our recently murdered Ukrainian correspondent once did.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:07 utc | 219

What am I missing?
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:02 utc | 215
Saying ceasefire now is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from saying “prevent killing”.
Ceasefire now means no airstrikes, no blowing up stuff in Gaza, no executions by sniping, no tank shelling.
Prevent killing means, oops so sorry we dropped a bomb and killed 500 people. But we are sure we got 1 Hamas guy.
This is Israel we are talking about.
The country where you get to be a prime minister (Yitzhak Shamir) for assassinating a UN mediator (Folke Bernadotte) because you didn’t like his peace plan.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:07 utc | 220

Today’s rulings will do little to decrease numbers maiming and killing of Palestinians in both the Gaza and The West Bank.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:08 utc | 221

An interesting ruling. I want to note that they did not procrastinate.
Somebody wanted to give the Izzies a chance to reform and just fight Hamas.
The court saves some credibility, and does give orders, but avoids calling it genocide outright, just yet.
The ball is in Israel’s court now. What can they say? Isn’t the very fact it has come to this a loss for them?
Perhaps this will get somebody to do something about Bibi and his crew now.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 26 2024 13:08 utc | 222

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:04 utc | 218
the need for urgency is precisely why the court almost unanimously supported the SA case.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:09 utc | 223

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:07 utc | 219
or just simple bribery.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:10 utc | 224

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:08 utc | 221
but that is not on the court, that is on Israel which already said it would ignore the court’s ruling. there is no ruling that the court could have made that would effectivly stop Israel from killing if it decides, as it will to continue the genocide. I don’t think the court could legally call it genocide till it considers the merits of the case. this was more like a request by Israel to dismiss the charges, and Israel lost on every count. It’s kind of like a preliminary hearing, maybe the court could step outside the normal procedures and declare it a genocide right now, but the ruling it made has that legal effect.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:14 utc | 225

@ pq:
“Ceasefire” ==> “stop firing weapons”
Yeah, legalese will likely predominate the corporate media, but no sane person will fail to recognize what has been demanded by the ICJ, and what the response shall be by the Empire of Chaos (apt and useful; thanks, karlof1 )

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:15 utc | 226

The War Party will ignore and disemble
Watch for Sanctions talk from the BRICs – the 87% of the world is where the rubber meets the road.
Every Israeli musician, artist, professor, athelete is a member of the IDF – travel ban anyone ?

Posted by: Exile | Jan 26 2024 13:15 utc | 227

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:10 utc | 224
Mark my words, only a ceasefire can decrease the number of Palestinian women and children being killed. The Zionists have hearts of stone.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:15 utc | 228

pq it ordered Israel to immediately cease genocidal actions. that would include indiscriminate bombing.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:01 utc | 213
I hope you are right but I fear airstrikes will get even harder now Israel has a greenlight.
This is what RSA requested. I will be VERY HAPPY if I am wrong. I hope I am wrong.
If they were sincere, they would order the first two points.
This from RSA document
(1) The State of Israel shall immediately suspend its military operations in and against Gaza.
(2) The State of Israel shall ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be
directed, supported or influenced by it, as well as any organisations and persons which may be
subject to its control, direction or influence, take no steps in furtherance of the military
operations referred to point (1) above.
(3) The Republic of South Africa and the State of Israel shall each, in accordance with their
obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide,
in relation to the Palestinian people, take all reasonable measures within their power to prevent
genocide.
(4) The State of Israel shall, in accordance with its obligations under the Convention on the
Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, in relation to the Palestinian people as a
group protected by the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
Genocide, desist from the commission of any and all acts within the scope of Article II of the
Convention, in particular:
(a) killing members of the group;
(b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to the members of the group;
(c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part; and
(d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
(5) The State of Israel shall, pursuant to point (4)(c) above, in relation to Palestinians, desist from, and take all measures within its power including the rescinding of relevant orders, of restrictions and/or of prohibitions to prevent:
(a) the expulsion and forced displacement from their homes;
(b) the deprivation of:
(i) access to adequate food and water;
(ii) access to humanitarian assistance, including access to adequate fuel, shelter,
clothes, hygiene and sanitation;
(iii) medical supplies and assistance; and
(c) the destruction of Palestinian life in Gaza.
(6) The State of Israel shall, in relation to Palestinians, ensure that its military, as well as any
irregular armed units or individuals which may be directed, supported or otherwise influenced
by it and any organizations and persons which may be subject to its control, direction or
influence, do not commit any acts described in (4) and (5) above, or engage in direct and public
incitement to commit genocide, conspiracy to commit genocide, attempt to commit genocide,
or complicity in genocide, and insofar as they do engage therein, that steps are taken towards
their punishment pursuant to Articles I, II, III and IV of the Convention on the Prevention and
Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
(7) The State of Israel shall take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the
preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of Article II of the
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide; to that end, the State
of Israel shall not act to deny or otherwise restrict access by fact-finding missions, international
mandates and other bodies to Gaza to assist in ensuring the preservation and retention of said
evidence.
(8) The State of Israel shall submit a report to the Court on all measures taken to give effect
to this Order within one week, as from the date of this Order, and thereafter at such regular
intervals as the Court shall order, until a final decision on the case is rendered by the Court.
(9) The State of Israel shall refrain from any action and shall ensure that no action is taken
which might aggravate or extend the dispute before the Court or make it more difficult to
resolve.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:18 utc | 229

Saying ceasefire now is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from saying “prevent killing”.
Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:07 utc | 220

Ceasefire is for the security council to demand. ICJ provisional relief is limited in scope to following existing provisions in law.
Proceeding with the genocide case against Israel puts any Security Council member that vetos a ceasefire resolution in jeopardy of conspiracy to commit genocide.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:20 utc | 230

Like ukraine israel gets all its strengh and power by proxy from the west, namily america and england.
Were lookinging at yoooou now US UK (points finger)
Will they supply arms in the knowledge they are now facilitating Genicide. Ditto funding Israel.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 13:23 utc | 231

that would include indiscriminate bombing.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:01 utc | 213
“Indiscriminate”. There’s that weasel word again …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 13:23 utc | 232

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:15 utc | 228
right, but the court can’t stop Israel, it can order Israel to stop. the only external force that can enforce a ceasefire is the US government; it can cut off aid immediately, stop attacking Yemen and support the court. We all know it won’t, but this is a step to making Israel an albatross. Glad Finkelstein was wrong about the Chinese and Russian judges (iirc).

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:24 utc | 233

This is what the ICJ quickly threw out in 18 days against Russia. This is the most similar recent case. You can see from my comment above that South Africa requested EXACTLY what the Court ordered Russia to do. And Ukrainian civilians as a whole were not suffering like Gaza. Not even close.
By pretending to care but not caring, ICJ has done the worst possible thing.
The Court considers that, with regard to the situation described above, the Russian Federation must, pending the final decision in the case, suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine.
In addition, recalling the statement of the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations that the “Donetsk People’s Republic” and the “Lugansk People’s Republic” had turned to the Russian Federation with a request to grant military support, the Court considers that the Russian Federation must also ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be directed or supported by it, as well as any organizations and persons which may be subject to its control or direction, take no steps in furtherance of these military operations.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/182/182-20220316-SUM-01-00-EN.pdf
Allegations of Genocide under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Ukraine v. Russian Federation: 32 States intervening)

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:27 utc | 234

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:20 utc | 230
right, the only problem I have is the order for Hamas to immediately release hostages without a requirement that Israel also release all its hostages. dunno what the legal justification for that is.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:28 utc | 235

The 70+ year war over Palestine has just taken a giant step forward in favor of the Palestinians.
Let us all move forward into the firing line an raise our linked hands in prayer: the world is closer to justice for these oppressed peoples than at any time in the last 80+ years.
The ICJ verdict, however imperfect, is a huge step towards justice for the Palestinian indigenes, who continue to suffer profound pain in pursuit of international justice.
Zionist imperialism has suffered a mighty blow, today. It will not admit this failure, but it is a profound defeat of the Zionist scheme, nonetheless.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:29 utc | 236

“indiscriminate” is not a weasel word. it lays the basis for a charge of genocide on the merits.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:30 utc | 237

the order for Hamas to immediately release hostages
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:28 utc | 235

There was no such substantive Order. Hamas’ hostages were mentioned as Facts.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:33 utc | 238

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:27 utc | 234
isnt that what the court is ordering here? a suspension of the activities complained of by SA? is there a distinction here?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:34 utc | 239

Those duel passport jews and freands of israel in govenment positions (all partys) should now be put under close screwteny, retrospectivly.
Did they vote not to have a ceasefire thus aiding Genicide ?
Have the jews lobby groups been culpable on instagating Genicide ?
Ditto govenment funding in the past ?
Endless similar fall out implications.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 13:36 utc | 240

Aljazeera reports that Netanyahu has banned his Ministers from commenting on the Court’s decisions.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:36 utc | 241

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:30 utc | 237
It provides an excuse for the colonial occupier to bomb the legitimate civilian resistance movement called “Hamas”.
In fact, the use of the word “indiscriminate” is deceptive because there is, from inception, nothing to “discriminate” between.
The word suggests that if that the IDF took care to “discriminate”, all would be good. Which is patently false.
Neither the legitimate anti colonial resistance nor the non-combatant portion of the occupied population are legitimate targets.
Therefore, what is it that must be discriminated?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 13:37 utc | 242

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:34 utc | 239
I believe the language ICJ used is deliberately too generic and we are talking compulsive liars who are genocidally psychopathological.
Compare RSA vs Israel to Ukraine vs Russia
What South Africa explicity asked for and did not get:
(1) The State of Israel shall immediately suspend its military operations in and against Gaza.
(2) The State of Israel shall ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be
directed, supported or influenced by it, as well as any organisations and persons which may be
subject to its control, direction or influence, take no steps in furtherance of the military
operations referred to point (1) above.
What ICJ ordered Russia to do:
The Russian Federation must, pending the final decision in the case, suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine.
In addition, recalling the statement of the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations that the “Donetsk People’s Republic” and the “Lugansk People’s Republic” had turned to the Russian Federation with a request to grant military support, the Court considers that the Russian Federation must also ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be directed or supported by it, as well as any organizations and persons which may be subject to its control or direction, take no steps in furtherance of these military operations.
Both cases refer to Allegations of Genocide under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
South African Foreign Minister:
“I was hoping that international justice would issue a ceasefire decision in Gaza
International justice resolutions will not be effective as long as there is no ceasefire in Gaza.
Now it is up to people everywhere to hold their own governments to account, especially the ones that are cheering on Israel.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:40 utc | 243

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/1/26/live-icj-to-issue-preliminary-ruling-in-south-africa-genocide-case-against-i?update=2650776
Riyadh Maliki, Palestinian Minister of Foreign Affairs, has issued a statement responding to the International Court of Justice’s ruling on the emergency measures requested by South Africa in its genocide case against Israel over its war on the Gaza Strip.
Here is his full statement:
“Palestine welcomes the significant order by the International Court of Justice in South Africa’s case against Israel under the Genocide Convention. In light of the incontrovertible evidence presented to the Court about the unfolding genocide, the ICJ ordered these provisional measures.
The ICJ ruling is an important reminder that no state is above the law or beyond the reach of justice. It breaks Israel’s entrenched culture of criminality and impunity, which has characterized its decades-long occupation, dispossession, persecution, and apartheid in Palestine.
Israel failed to convince the Court that it was not violating the Genocide Convention. The ICJ judges saw through Israel’s politicization, deflection, and outright lies. They assessed the facts and the law and ordered provisional measures that recognized the gravity of the situation on the ground and the veracity of South Africa’s application. Israel is accused of destroying an entire people and will now stand accused of Genocide, the crime of all crimes.
Palestine calls on all states to ensure respect for the order of the International Court of Justice, including by Israel. Governments must ensure they are not complicit in this genocide, starting with stopping arms trade with Israel. Governments must also endeavor to stop the industrial slaughter and destruction in Gaza. This is now a binding legal obligation.
The Palestinian people and leadership will be forever grateful to the people and goverment of South Africa for taking this bold step of active solidarity. We are also grateful to the millions of people who have not stopped taking to the streets around the world to protest the genocide and champion Palestinian rights to life and freedom.
Palestine will continue to work with allies to ensure an end to the genocide, accountability for the atrocious crimes, and the protection of our collective rights as peoples of the world to equal human rights, justice, and freedom. This is a fight for humanity the world cannot afford to lose.”
It isn’t yet victory for Palestine day, but none of us expected that, did we? It IS PROGRESS at last for Palestinians Day. The ICJ has handed the world the means to prosecute “israel”s” enablers for aiding and causing genocide! Racist terrorist “israel” will do what racist terrorists do, but now the world can (must?) legally intervene using force if necessary to stop genocide, right?

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 26 2024 13:40 utc | 244

Also: Trump just absorbed a huge number of anti-Israeli voters, all of whom utterly detest Biden and his Hillary/Obama junta.
If Trump “loses” this next election then a true wave of “conspiracy theory” is going to grip the US as has never before been seen; not since the War Between the States, not since Lincoln and Garfield.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 13:41 utc | 245

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:33 utc | 238
The Court did suggest that the hostages be released unconditionally.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:42 utc | 246

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 13:37 utc | 242
you’re 100% wrong. it doesn’t lay a basis for genocide. try to focus here, the court is considering the South African case against Israel for GENOCIDE. it does not attempt to resolve all the other issues. ask yourself, does “Genocide Joe” or anybody in the State Department or anybody in the Israeli government consider this ruling a victory? nope. the court didnt used the word you are so worried about, but it said that in effect. why you people are so intent on finding flaws with a legal victory is beyond me. logically, opposing indiscriminate bombing does not preclude opposing “discriminate” bombing, but that is not what the court is considering here. again the issue is GENOCIDE and anything that legally has the effect of stopping that is a victory for Palestinians. and that is what this ruling does. Again, with the proviso that requiring Hamas to do something it doesn’t require Israel to do is a problem but notice it did not lay any basis for accusing Hamas of genocide. there is a reason for that, and if Israel complies (it won’t) it will stop the genocide. That is what my immediate interest is, make it harder to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Does it mean ICJ is a legitimate court? NO, but this ruling supports the SA case in almost every particular.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 13:47 utc | 247

ICJ order from today.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf
Israel must, in accordance with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular: (a) killing members of the group; (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about blah blah blah.
Compare to:
The Russian Federation must, pending the final decision in the case, suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine.
Is better than nothing but the ball is now in OUR court. We need to start calling our politicians in the Collective Waste.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:48 utc | 248

All of a sudden Yemens actions in the red sea demanding israel stops bombing Gaza becomes legitamate and not terrorist activity, whilst the western fleet becomes hostlile and against ligitmate yemen action. that fleet becomes ilegale. Aiding and abetting Genicide.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 13:48 utc | 249

The next step will be a Security Council resolution for a ceasefire. It will be interesting to see if the is any change in the USA’s vote.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:50 utc | 250

The Court did suggest that the hostages be released unconditionally.
Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:42 utc | 246

Suggest. Light as a feather. Carries practically no weight whatsoever.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:50 utc | 251

or Veto

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:50 utc | 252

Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:50 utc | 251
Agreed

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 13:51 utc | 253

It will be interesting to see how Israel and the US respond to this. My thoughts”
Israel: unjustified, meritless, antisemitic, but, but “the Holocaust”
US: unfounded, warrant-less, detached from reality

Posted by: ctiger | Jan 26 2024 13:52 utc | 254

Suggest. Light as a feather. Carries practically no weight whatsoever.
Posted by: too scents | Jan 26 2024 13:50 utc | 251
The Court did not suggest 😉 It “called”
85. The Court deems it necessary to emphasize that all parties to the conflict in the Gaza Strip
are bound by international humanitarian law. It is gravely concerned about the fate of the hostages abducted during the attack in Israel on 7 October 2023 and held since then by Hamas and other armed groups, and calls for their immediate and unconditional release.
This shows bias. These people were not part of the RSA case and since this is armed conflict, the remaining hostages are “prisoners of war” as all civilians have been released.
The RSA case DID mention the 11,000+ Palestinian hostages in Israeli jails including over a hundred children. And the ICJ forgot about them.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:55 utc | 255

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 13:55 utc | 255
Thanks for the correction, I was relying on my memory.

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 14:02 utc | 256

Meanwhile top milatery spokesmen is calling for conscription in the uk.
Siteing Russia. On bbc radio 1pm news near end.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 14:04 utc | 257

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 26 2024 4:40 utc | 147
good post, thanks for taking the time to write.
Maybe the ICJ ruling will give the US the figleaf to stop its unconditional support of Israel. I can only hope…

Posted by: ctiger | Jan 26 2024 14:10 utc | 258

All of a sudden Yemens actions in the red sea demanding israel stops bombing Gaza becomes legitamate and not terrorist activity
Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 13:48 utc | 249
Well, it was that before, but at least they can refer to an actual ruling by the ICJ court now … if that was even needed.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 14:13 utc | 259

Posted by: Zet | Jan 25 2024 18:55 utc | 50
Prompted by the above, maybe if the US got the fuck out of Taiwan – literally and metaphorically – then there might be a sympathetic ear. Then again, ultimately, the US has fuck-all to offer, and China even less to gain.

Posted by: horseguards | Jan 26 2024 14:30 utc | 260

Posted by: Dalit | Jan 25 2024 19:45 utc | 60
Really? Has the US been holding back on all types of weaponary since WWII, thus avoiding victory anywhere and everywhere, in order to “bluff” enemies?

Posted by: horseguards | Jan 26 2024 14:40 utc | 261

A Yemeni Houthi official, Yahya Sari, has announced a missile attack on the British tanker MARLIN LUANDA.
▪️ Monitoring resources have confirmed that an attempted attack took place, but report that two missiles missed and exploded at a distance from the ship. The incident itself occurred 60 nautical miles from the port of Aden.
▪️ In addition to the attack on the MARLIN LUANDA, as announced by Yahya Sari, the tanker belonging to the oil trader Trafigura was hit, resulting in a powerful fire.
▪️ It is believed that another target of the attack was the tanker named Achilles.
❗️At least one of the attacked ships has sunk, and footage of the fire is widely circulating online.
Regardless of the results, we should expect new attacks on Yemeni barns in the near future by the US-led coalition.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jan 27 2024 1:29 utc | 262

pq 163
Thanks for your reply.
First going back to my other comment on asabiyya. I’ve only ever heard this word used in a derogative sense of racial prejudice.
Why is it now being used to mean Arab Unity?
I ask this question because the Israeli Genocide is Morally wrong, not Politically wrong. Islam is a system for deciding what is right and wrong and then doing it. We shouldn’t get distracted from morality into Political.interests IMO. That’s Erdogan’s stupid game, that he’s looking after Turkish interests to rob Iraqi oil for Israel.
Sorry not to answer you directly, but you seem to be saying that Islam.is only one label amongst many. Let me take you back to my Muslim brother, Eesa/ Jesus pbuh , yet to return inshallah soon. He is reported as saying in what remains of his teachings in the Gospels ,:
” ye are to be perfect “. Meaning of the highest standard of morality.
A society that strives for morality and God’s help is different to a society that strives for political.power , through lying, violence and financial corruption. It follows that there can be religious terrorism such as was deployed by the Taliban against the Western invaders in order to restore Islamic morality. But there’s no such thing as Political Islam for the sake of Power.
Hamas , whatever its roots , has been run by mafia style honchos in big cars and suitcases of Gulf loot. These international criminals also known as Political Islam serve USUKIS and have created the excuse for the Israeli Genocide of Palestinians. Qaradawi has authored dozens of pious books on the morality of Islam, but has also with another hat on created the genocide of Palestinians. You don’t attack your powerful enemy with no defence for the population and no weapons.
The Muslim Brotherhood is shackled by the arms and legs to a surgical platform to remove its Prostate by a surgical machine. MB drools as vast shipments of US weaponry arrive in Israel to carve up West Asian oil, with shares in the enterprise. Fuck ’em.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 27 2024 4:55 utc | 263

ZH has a posting up with the title
The United States Navy Essentially Lost A Battle At Sea This Week
The quote

What they neglected to mention was that it struck about a hundred meters from the Maersk Detroit, and that after the attack the convoy aborted the transit and retreated back into the Arabian Sea rather than press on into enemy fire. Was retreat the correct decision at the moment? Probably, the Gravely was shepherding two lumbering merchantmen and facing unsuppressed shore batteries of unknown strength and capability in broad daylight, quite possibly without adequate air cover given the ambiguities of the Eisenhower’s exact station in the Red Sea and the limited combat radius of its air wing.
Was this operational plan inadequate? Almost certainly – reading between the lines, it reeks of a complacent assumption that Houthi missile batteries had actually been suppressed by a few rounds of air raids and that a single AEGIS destroyer could handle anything the Houthis could throw at them with no need for additional contingency planning.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 27 2024 5:21 utc | 264

what options are left after US plan to overthrow Putin from power before going against China has failed ?
Could Putin trust to the new offer coming from US policy flip flop through Trump re-election to unite against China (which is a biggest Russia nightmare since 70x? I doubt a bit.
Yemen just shows the game of proxy war West is playing against Russia can be playaed against West as well.
Would US be interested in disrupting trading routes to harm China goods flow to EU and other countries? Only when it serves them. But there is another point – exposing US inability to solve Houties problem weakness is dangerous to the perception of other 3rd world countries of US’s selfassigned superpower role. That is why US needs a war to showup its strength and power to such countries as KSA, UAE and so on. Yet, such war will put US into vulnerable position if its targets won’t be reached.

Posted by: asehi | Jan 28 2024 19:34 utc | 265