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January 25, 2024
After U.S. Again Bombed Yemen, Houthi Attack DoD Transport Ships

Two days ago I discussed the reported hope the Biden administration has to get China’s help in the U.S. conflict with Yemen.

To Hope That China Will Help With Yemen Is Delusional BullshitMoon of Alabama, Jan 23, 2024

Chinese ship do not get bothered by Yemini forces. They only targeted ships were related to Israel and, since the U.S. and UK bombed Houthi positions, ships related to those countries are also under attack.

We have now learned why U.S. officials had expressed hope for Chinese help. The Financial Times reports of previous backroom talks with China about the issue.

US urges China to help curb Red Sea attacks by Iran-backed Houthis (archived) – FT – Jan 24, 2024

The US has asked China to urge Tehran to rein in Iran-backed Houthi rebels attacking commercial ships in the Red Sea, but has seen little sign of help from Beijing, according to American officials.

Officials have repeatedly raised the matter with top Chinese officials in the past three months, asking them to convey a warning to Iran not to inflame tensions in the Middle East after Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel and the ensuing war.

US national security adviser Jake Sullivan and his deputy, Jon Finer, discussed the issue in meetings this month in Washington with Liu Jianchao, head of the Chinese Communist party’s international department, according to US officials. Secretary of state Antony Blinken also raised it, said a state department official.

This is so laughable that it is nearly sad.

Again, Chinese ships do net get bothered by Yemen. That other ships now have to avoid the Red Sea route and take an extra 14 days to sail around Africa gives China’s container fleet a business advantage. So why did anyone in the White House even thought about asking China for help?

As Lambert Strether at Naked Capitalism snarked about asking for Chinese help:

Before we go to war with them, or after?

Last night the U.S. Navy tried to escort two U.S. owned and flagged container carriers, the Maersk Detroit and Maersk Chesapeake, through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait into the Red Sea.

The Yemenis responded by firing three anti ship missiles at them. Two missile were intercepted by a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Gravely, but one exploded near to one of the container carriers:

The U.S. Central Command confirmed details of the incident in a statement posted to “X”.

“On Jan. 24 at approximately 2 p.m. (Sanaa time), Iranian-backed Houthi terrorists fired three anti-ship ballistic missiles from Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen toward the U.S.-flagged, owned, and operated container ship M/V Maersk Detroit, transiting the Gulf of Aden. One missile impacted in the sea. The two other missiles were successfully engaged and shot down by the USS Gravely (DDG 107). There were no reported injuries or damage to the ship,” the statement said.

These were not purely civilian ships involved in the private transport of consumer goods:

The Maersk Detroit and Maersk Chesapeake are operated by Maersk Line, Limited (MLL), Maersk’s US-flag subsidiary. Both ships are enrolled in the U.S. Maritime Administration’s Maritime Security Program and Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement (VISA) with the U.S government.

Maersk said the vessels are carrying cargo belonging to the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Department of State, USAID, and other U.S. government agencies and “is therefore afforded the protection of the U.S. Navy for passage.”

As a result, Maersk Line, Limited has made the decision to suspend transits in the region in until further notice, a significant development considering MLL’s role in transporting U.S. military and government cargo. MLL is not only the largest owner and operator of US flag vessels trading internationally, but also the largest participant in the VISA/MSP programs.

These ships were most likely carrying munitions for Israel. The U.S. Navy lost the battle as the ships could not pass.

The incident happened twelve hours after the U.S. and UK had bombed Yemeni positions for the 9th time.

CENTCOM reported of the strike:

On Jan. 24 at approximately 2:30 a.m.(Sanaa time), U.S. Central Command forces conducted strikes against two Houthi anti-ship missiles that were aimed into the Southern Red Sea and were prepared to launch. U.S. forces identified the missiles in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen and determined that they presented an imminent threat to merchant vessels and the U.S. Navy ships in the region. U.S. forces subsequently struck and destroyed the missiles in self-defense. This action will protect freedom of navigation and make international waters safer and more secure for U.S. Navy vessels and merchant vessels.

This is, again, clear evidence that bombing the Yemeni Houthi government forces has zero impact on their capabilities and motivation. It, in fact, encourages them to try harder.

The whole U.S. policy of ‘helping Israel’ by (unsuccessfully) countering the Houthi blockade of Israel related ships was wrong from the very beginning. The unsuccessful blockade run by U.S. DoD transports proves that it has failed.

But the whole operation has increased the cost for transporting goods between the Europe and Asia and endangers ships unrelated to the conflict.

The Houthi announced their blockade for Israel related ships in the Red Sea on December 9 2023. The U.S. announced, on December 21, a coalition to protect Israeli related shipping in the Red Sea. Only after that had happened did the traffic through the Suez channel decrease.


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Now ask how the populations in Europe (and Asia) will feel about the U.S. operation when price inflation, induced by such U.S. actions, will again hit them where it hurts them most.

Comments

>…”Something is Fishy About the Missing SEALS in Somalia…”
12min. Basically, his conjecture is two Seals were KIA and are now MIA.
They were trying to board a fishing boat that was transporting missile parts….
His conjecture is the U$ doesn’t want it known they were KIA because the U$ would be forced to retaliate, further escalating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitF22Eur9M

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 25 2024 22:14 utc | 101

Why fire warning shots? That’s both a waste of missiles and dumb. Imagine the PR victory the Houthis would get if they manage to sink a ship that’s supplying the evil Zionist regime! They’d become heroes in ME overnight. And what would USA or anyone else do? Bomb them harder? KEK
Houthis are fighters and fighters aim to kill. Only thing I’m curious about is whether the missile that landed in the water was tracked as a guaranteed miss or everyone involved just got lucky.
Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 21:10 utc | 81
Why fire warning shots? To achieve the goal without fueling massive escalation. Houthi are not looking for a PR victory, they are working toward a victory victory, and they’re making quite a bit of progress, along with others. Think Tankers are floating ‘leaks’ about the US withdrawing from Iraq, and if that happens, US will have to withdraw soon from Syria as well. Why escalate when you’re winning?
As for what the US would do- who knows? But it might try to replicate Gaza all over Yemen. Would the US lose such a conflict eventually? Absolutely, but in the meantime tens, perhaps hundreds, of Yemeni civilians would die.
The Houthi have been fighting the US and its proxies for eight years. They, unlike you, have carefully researched their options, and made plans that will achieve the most with the least cost to their own people.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 25 2024 22:17 utc | 102

Jane@95
Read about Jordan’s 1970 “Black September” military conflict and consider asking the King of Jordan what he thinks. This event is part of the reason why no Islamic countries are in a hurry to welcome Palestinian refugees (along with the high financial cost this humanitarian move would incur).
Observer@99
Russia has an S-400 system and multiple Pantsir systems in Tartus. There appears to be an unwritten agreement that these systems will not fire on Israeli jets if Israel does not attack Russian assets. I have seen no information that an S-400 couldn’t handle 5th generation fighters. Have you?

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 22:21 utc | 103

https://consortiumnews.com/2024/01/24/bidens-war-on-yemen/
The unspoken premise for U.S. airstrikes against the Houthis’ is that an active genocide should be permitted to continue, argues Caitlin Johnstone.
A comment by “lester” to the article linked above: “It is the only thing they know how to do, and it is automatic”

Posted by: Taras 77 | Jan 25 2024 22:21 utc | 104

I have commented in the previous article by b on this topic, and will reiterate my point again. Never underestimate the empire and its vassals’ desire and tactics to drag China into the mess. They may play with some existing “rules” like increase the insurance cost (which are still mostly determined by the West). If that doesn’t work, they will come up with new “rules” (e.g. custom clearance regulations at their ports, etc) or even covert operations (remember North Stream 2) involving Chinese interests. Although Houthis has declared that it won’t attack Chinese and Russian ships, don’t be surprise to see some mysterious “terrorists” accidentally firing some missile/drones at Chinese ships transitioning in the areas.

Posted by: d dan | Jan 25 2024 22:22 utc | 105

Honza@102
Houthis are already getting bombed and droned regularly. What “massive escalation” are you talking about? A ground invasion? I wouldn’t be surprised if the Houthis would WELCOME this because it would mean more money and weapons being sent to them by their allies. On top of this it’s safe to say there is broad consensus would be incredibly painful if not outright disastrous to USA. So again I ask: “what massive escalation”??
>hundreds of Yemeni civilians would die
Are you implying they are not dying already from GAE bombing attacks? Or are you saying that the Houthis have some kind of “democracy” where they could get “voted out” if they lose civilian support?
I don’t know who or what you are carrying water for, but to say that Houthis are not trying to actually SINK ships is, at best, incredibly naive.

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 22:26 utc | 106

d dan | Jan 25 2024 22:22 utc | 105 “They may play with some existing “rules” like increase the insurance cost (which are still mostly determined by the West).”
That may no longer be the case. With the sanctions from hell on Russia, I believe new centers of shipping insurance were created. Russia China for sure and as India has a lot of trade with Russia, likely India as well.
Although I haven’t heard much on it for some time, it is virtually a certainty that Russian and Chinese shipping no longer rely on western insurance.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 25 2024 22:28 utc | 107

Peter AU1 | Jan 25 2024 22:13 utc | 100–
Thanks for your rather funny reply. Yes, it’s a jobs program. What they could do is to build it, then dismantle it, they rebuild it, dismantle it, and so forth to keep that jobs program running while the others can be made into museums. Or better yet, turn the interiors into massive homeless shelters, where they’d serve some purpose.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 22:42 utc | 108

I don’t know who or what you are carrying water for, but to say that Houthis are not trying to actually SINK ships is, at best, incredibly naive.
Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 22:26 utc | 106
I don’t think you’ve been paying very much attention. There has not been a single attack anywhere near the waterline of a vessel. That’s what you attack when you want to sink a ship. Their goal is to scare vessels away from the Red Sea and Israeli ports, and their tactics are working quite well.
Ansar Allah started out by sending cheap drones against the top side of vessels. Once Yemen was attacked, the ante was upped to ballistic missiles. There has NEVER been a ship sunk by a ballistic missile in wartime, and Ansar Allah’s usage is a first. This is a big data gathering exercise for a new class of weapons.

Posted by: First Time Poster | Jan 25 2024 22:49 utc | 109

oldhippie | Jan 25 2024 21:27 utc | 91
True; you probably remember Theodore Postol’s dim assessment of US ADM capabilities. I think he rated the patriot at something like 20 -25% success rate (I don’t know if he went into the Aegis and the Phalanx systems that most USN ships are using).
What’s really significant is the counter strategy; overwhelm the not-so-easily-replenished-overpriced defence systems with old offensive stock, then nail them with the good stuff.

Posted by: robjira | Jan 25 2024 22:51 utc | 110

“…I was surprised to learn sometime back that US has a law that obliges them to always have a fleet of at least 11 aircraft carriers. Very similar to the sort of groups that only wear clothing or use technology from a certain point in history…” Peter AU1@100
That is very funny: a bit like the Yeomen of the Guard-still wearing the same gear five hundred and twenty odd years after their boss Henry VII died.
Its Star Wars in the real world and the USA is still preparing to defend Port Moresby against Yamamoto and his mates.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 25 2024 22:56 utc | 111

No privacy in totalitarian UK
I wrote a long post in last Sunday’s open tread, but it failed to appear. If it does not show up here, I will try to repost it in the next open thread.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 25 2024 23:00 utc | 112

The world will know that Israel, as a Zionist project, is finished on the day that the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan stops acting as a southern version of the Palestinian Authority.
And that will be days before the PA stops acting like the IDF’s Military Police.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 25 2024 23:01 utc | 113

Escobar has a new Cradle item, “How Yemen’s ‘asabiyya’ is reshaping geopolitics”:
“The Arabic word Asabiyya, or ‘moral strength,’ is a soundbite in the west, but taken very seriously by the globe’s new contenders China, Russia, and Iran. It is Yemen, however, that is mainstreaming the idea, by sacrificing everything for the world’s collective morality in a bid to end the genocide in Gaza.”
Pepe points out that it’s the Outlaw US Empire that’s driving up the cost of shipping not Ansarallah. But the key point is the discussion around the word/concept of asabiyya as it’s clearly present in Houthi culture and seems to exist in Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iraqi Hezbollah to varying degrees. I’d also say the concept includes the Arab sense of honor, for what else is honor and its relation to duty but “moral strength”? And when it comes to honor, the West is bankrupt.
Russia is another place where I see moral strength currently being exhibited by its citizens and soldiers. Russia has lots of friends. Who will be friends with the Outlaw US Empire when the events in Palestine and Ukraine end? Canada, maybe?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 23:08 utc | 114

International
– Sputnik Intern
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Israeli Economy Minister Nir Barkat said Wednesday that Iran has become a “legitimate target” for Israel’s missile strikes for supporting armed movements opposing Israel.
“Iran is a legitimate target for Israel … The head of the snake is Tehran. My recommendation is to adopt the strategy that [US] President [John F.] Kennedy used in the Cuban missile crisis. What he basically said then was a missile from Cuba will be answered with a missile to Moscow … And we should very very clearly make sure the Iranians understand that they will not get away with using proxies against Israel,” Barkat said in an interview with

Posted by: Jo | Jan 25 2024 23:10 utc | 115

First Time Poster | Jan 25 2024 22:49 utc | 109–
Those are good points. Ansarallah also used some of its cruise missiles but they met the same fate as their drones. The one thing proven was the decent ability of USN AD systems, although if attacks were properly planned, they could have depleted the AD system’s ammo supplies leaving USN ships naked. However, that doesn’t seem to be a goal. As Escobar and many here have written, the goal was to stop shipping going to Occupied Palestine, or at least to drive up the cost of doing so. That strategic goal’s accomplished and being aided by USN and HMS activities; so, the missiles don’t need to hit anything, although they have scored a few but have yet to sink anything.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 23:19 utc | 116

Jo | Jan 25 2024 23:10 utc | 115–
There’s been Huff & Puff talk like that aimed at Iran for years. Of course, the snake is Zion.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 23:23 utc | 117

Observer 99
Israel has created Hamas purely to have an excuse to massacre innocent Palestinians attacks moment in history that the US is still powerful and Islam is till weakened by the corruption of the Islamists who helped USUKIS destroy West Asia / Middle East.
For example, my government pays me tax credits if I have a job, I use the tax credits to pay my wages but my business is inactive. It’s not a profitable business but it sucks money from government for Party Political dogma.
If all USUKIS want is a permanent base in the Middle East, why not create one in some uninhabited place? Why constantly recycle the British lies about Israel’s right to exist on the site of its former importance? This is a scam, not a viable business.
The truth is that USUKIS only wants a base in West Asia as a Crusade against Islam. The Israeli genocide of Palestine is purely a Crusade, on the flimsiest of artifical pretexts.
The British have found out about the total corruption and violence of its history, the hard way through defeat. Americans have still got some kind of taboo about admitting that their country’s aims are purely Racist and pernicious. Americans will never admit their country’s Crusade against Islam, until they are defeated by Islam.
There’s an easy way and a hard way to see the truth. The US and UK detest any system.of government that looks after the people’s interests. The love Feudalism, Fascism and Force.
It’s as inevitable as night follows day that USUKIS recognises that they are against the truth of Islam and the freedom of choice to Worship and obey God. There’s no protection from God. Whom He likes, he inflicts on them the small humiliation of self- awareness.
Whom.He does not like, He leaves to rot in their own ignorance until death. Then punishes them for their choosing ignorane

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 25 2024 23:24 utc | 118

A large transfer of US weapons systems to Israel indicates a much larger war approaching as these are not the ground systems – tanks and so forth – Hamas is taking a toll on. A large transfer like this would likely mean training many more Israeli’s on these systems so I assume this will be like Ukraine where US/Nato forces are listed as mercenaries. Possibly for strikes on Iran but I assume Hezbollah/Lebanon is the next target. And as with Gaza and Yemen, the civilian population will be the primary target.
Clash Report
@clashreport
#BREKAING Massive Israel-U.S. military deal has been signed
The deal was signed in the last day in Washington, Israeli media reports.
As part of the deal, the following will be transferred to Israel:
– A squadron of F-35 jets (25 aircraft)
– F-15AI squadron (25 aircraft)
– Apache squadron (at least 12 combat helicopters)
– Many thousands of weapons are expected to arrive in the coming days.
The deal has been agreed and the supply of the planes will be provided as soon as possible, also from within the American military.
The armaments are expected to arrive within days. Officials in the Israeli delegation say: This is a really dramatic deal.
Israel is asking the Americans to prioritize supplies, given the development of the campaign and the possibility that it will develop into a multi-arena war.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 25 2024 23:34 utc | 119

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 23:08 utc | 114
Thanks, karlof1. He does get around, doesn’t he? And a touch of Plato, too — thanks, Pepe. We’ll all be philosophers yet!

Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2024 0:13 utc | 120

He does not like, He leaves to rot in their own ignorance until death. Then punishes them for their choosing ignorance
Irish-quality curse!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 26 2024 0:16 utc | 121

Anyone knows starting port and destination port of these two ships Maersk Detroit and Maersk Chesapeake?

Posted by: Arata | Jan 26 2024 0:32 utc | 122

The fools who fail to learn the lessons of history! Are but doomed to repeat endlessly the same identical mistakes as recorded by history!
“Stupid is as stupid does”

Posted by: BadDealMotorsOn | Jan 26 2024 0:39 utc | 123

It’s only a matter of time whereupon a USN warship will be sunk.
It will be damned difficult to justify a nuclear reaction to that sort of escalation.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 1:00 utc | 124

Ansar Allah is successfully punching the wallet, which is much wiser than punching a warship’s hull and escalating this too fast.
That said, I am noticing a corelation to all these foreign affairs antics and domestic crises, including Covid Lockdowns, food factory attacks, farmer legal strangulations, and DEI ESG wokeness in entertainment: a desperation to “gently deflate” the global economy. I know about the derivatives speculation snowball avalanche re-reaching ‘biblical proportions!’ I’m wondering if this is coordination for The Powers That Be to reduce the size of the avalanche while staying atop and buying up everyone else’s assets in a fire sale…
If so, it’s all so uncontrollable, so why not write-off that bad derivatives speculation debt instead of one-last weaponization of it! Can evil be so stupid and prideful? … I think I already know the answer, like the fallen morningstar.
Yes, yes, sorta off-topic, being a grand unifying theory and all. But I need to get it off my chest and our last open-topic is really too much further down now. If I don’t say it now it’ll affect my future warbling in the bushes.

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 26 2024 1:01 utc | 125

The favorite tactic of the US is to get two neighboring countries to fight each other. Think Iran / Iraq war where we were arming both sides, (Iran Contra). That was a doozie. The US has instigated this tactic dozens of times all around the world. Ukraine / Russia might just be the last one and in truth it isn’t really working out quite as well as hoped.
This tactic is no longer viable in the middle east barring some extreme development, and might not ever be possible anywhere again. This puts a serious damper in the Empires ability to dominate as they obviously can’t even think of going toe to toe with anyone.
All thats left is the nuclear option…or maybe the West will just throw up its hands and say “ok, we give, you win, we will now close all our 800+ military bases and end our monetary dominance of the world”.

Posted by: jef | Jan 26 2024 1:01 utc | 126

Maersk Detroit a quick look at fleet tracker has all info locked but it says its near Dubai heading to UAE

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 26 2024 1:22 utc | 127

juliania | Jan 26 2024 0:13 utc | 120–
Thanks for your reply. Pepe has another essay, “Pepe Escobar: Five Variables Defining Our Future”, where he took the suggestion I made in a comment note at his VK to combine Dr. Hudson’s recent analyses with his own vision of the Big Picture. In return, Pepe promotes my substack at his Telegram and VK. His intro is great as it invokes Trotsky who’s Hudson’s God Father:

In the late 1930s, with WWII in motion, and only months before his assassination, Leon Trotsky already had a vision of what the future Empire of Chaos would be up to.
“For Germany it was a question of ‘organizing Europe’. The United States must ‘organize’ the world. History is bringing mankind face to face with the volcanic eruption of American imperialism…Under one or another pretext and slogan the United States will intervene in the tremendous clash in order to maintain its world dominion.”
We all know what happened next. Now we are under a new volcano that even Trotsky could not have identified: a declining United States faced with the Russia-China “threat”. And once again the entire planet is affected by major moves in the geopolitical chessboard.

I see Naryshkin was interviewed by Ria Novosti today but no transcript’s available. The best report available I could find is from RT:

Western speculation about a potential Russian attack on NATO is aimed only at frightening Moscow and forcing it to abandon its goals in the Ukraine conflict, Sergey Naryshkin, the head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has said.
In an interview with RIA Novosti on Thursday, Naryshkin described the warnings of numerous Western officials as part of an “information war” being waged against both Russia and the populations of their own countries. This type of warfare seeks “to justify… the West’s existing aggression against Russia,” he said.
According to the intel chief, by conducting “hybrid” actions, the West is trying to intimidate Moscow by raising the possibility of a full-scale direct conflict between Russia and NATO. “The Westerners emphasize their belligerence, their mobilization readiness, hoping to influence Russia so that it… abandons its plans… and goals of the special military operation,” he explained, adding that he considered the attempts futile.
Naryshkin’s remarks come after Admiral Rob Bauer, the chair of the NATO Military Committee, warned the US-led military bloc that it must brace for a major clash with Russia within the next 20 years – one which would require the mass mobilization of civilians.

With the huge shipment of weapons to the Zionists Peter AU1 reported, it appears the Ukraine project is being mothballed. As I’ve mentioned Big Picture-wise, having hegemony over the Oil Lands is far more important to the Empire than Ukraine. The Empire is limping, so it must decide what’s most important, and it appears that choice is now made.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 26 2024 1:22 utc | 128

ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 22:26 utc | 106
***… to say that Houthis are not trying to actually SINK ships is, at best, incredibly naive.***
For now, it might suit them not to if non-sinking strikes can attain the same desired effect.
If a missile-hit ship sank in a messy way, the Western mass-media would be instructed to blank out Israeli genocide in Gaza via hysterical headlines about “Houthis cause environmental disaster!”
(which would of course be absolutely ridiculous given what the Israelis and US/NATO have already been doing for many years without such mass-media and “celebs” giving a damn)

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 26 2024 1:29 utc | 129

Hang on , ansarallah did a presser that said the conflict lasted 2 hrs using drones and ballistic missiles and the USN military ship was directly hit, which USN denies , and seems the consensus here.
https://t.me/PalestineResist/27241
Ansarrah press conference, where this is stated , and I note in a rather excited manner.

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 26 2024 1:30 utc | 130

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 25 2024 20:02 utc | 67
Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[9] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.
Mother not Jewish, so offspring not Jewish by birth.
I doubt partner can have influence on a piece of work like her.

Posted by: Antonym | Jan 26 2024 1:32 utc | 131

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 25 2024 22:26 utc | 106
Point 1: You really don’t get it. The US destroyed 85% of the structures in Korea during the Korean war, killed 20% of the population. It’s a real possibility that they will attack the civilian areas of Yemen and murder tends of thousands. The US can’t ‘win’ in Yemen, but they can cause a lot of pain. Not that you give a shit about other people’s pain.
Point 2: Yemen accomplishes the closure of the Red Sea to Israel-bound, and now US, shipping without killing anyone. If they have to, I’m sure they’ll sink some ships, but they don’t have to. You’ve been listening to State Department spokespeople too long.
Point 3: Yemen is conducting attritional warfare against the US, just as Hamas and Hezbollah are against Israel. The US Navy is rapidly depleting its missile supply, which will take years to replace, and the American missiles cost in the millions of dollar. The Yemen missile that hit the container ship last week was, from its appearance, a very old model, basically obsolete. I haven’t seen any specifics about what they launched at the US ships, but I think it’s likely that they are using up their oldest, least capable missiles first, since they are doing the job. They have much more capable missiles in reserve, in case the US does mount a city-kill campaign.
Your posts are very contradictory- criticize one poster for advocating more violence, then advocating it yourself. Smells like troll.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 26 2024 1:50 utc | 132

speaking of Yemen, the USA and UK, the fighting in the Red Sea and….. Russia
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/ansar-allah-in-moscow-to-discuss-regional-situation–war-on
Ansar Allah in Moscow to discuss regional situation, war on Gaza
The Yemeni delegation discussed with the Russian President’s special envoy to the Middle East the developments in the Red Sea amid US escalations.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 26 2024 1:57 utc | 133

Hankster | Jan 26 2024 1:30 utc | 130
US is and has been for some time obviously been sweeping things like this under the blanket – I assume so its bully bluster is not exposed to stark reality for the populace. Like the Irainain strikes on US bases where injuries received are passed of as woke brain trauma.
US wants its proxies to0 do the fighting and dying and the proxies want US to do the fighting and dying.
The difficulty in getting good hired help these days is a never ending problem.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 2:01 utc | 134

If so, it’s all so uncontrollable, so why not write-off that bad derivatives speculation debt instead of one-last weaponization of it! Can evil be so stupid and prideful? … I think I already know the answer, like the fallen morningstar.
Posted by: titmouse | Jan 26 2024 1:01 utc | 125
The mechanism of capitalism requires that the value of production be ‘realized’ by being sold. If you can’t sell it, it doesn’t matter how much it cost to make, it’s worthless. The current frenzy reflects this problem- but it’s also the link to WEF, who understand Marxist economic analysis better than most Marxists: They see another way out of the final crisis of capitalism besides socialism: Feudalism. Money exists in feudal economies, but its importance is not in fueling economic growth, but in controlling behavior. Daimyo in feudal Japan paid their retainers in koku- a measure of one human being’s annual consumption of rice. Food bought loyalty. The coming techno feudalism will use money the same way- only the loyal get paid, and can buy their food from the masters in the ‘open market.’ That’s just a sham, so hungry people won’t immediately resort to violence against the rulers- ‘It’s not our fault you don’t have enough money to buy food!’ This transition has been underway in the US for many decades, a little bit at a time, and if they manage to pull it off, most Americans will never know it. They’ll still believe in free markets and the low value of certain kinds of labor, and believing in that, they’ll struggle to excel in the roles offered them instead of fighting the system.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 26 2024 2:02 utc | 135

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 25 2024 20:02 utc | 67
Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[9] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.
Mother not Jewish, so offspring not Jewish by birth.
I doubt partner can have influence on a piece of work like her.
Posted by: Antonym | Jan 26 2024 1:32 utc | 131

I might be wrong but seem to remember reading that her grandfather was displaced from the Transnistria region, lost everything and died a shadow of his former self as a result of the creation of USSR back in the day. According to the article (IIRC) its something that was burned into her family lore and has has fueled her single minded hatred for all things Russian.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 26 2024 2:06 utc | 136

We are a country adrift. Our 2 IC, 70 iq affirmative action toad SecDef went AWOL for five days and nobody even noticed. Is anyone even in charge?
It appears that Nuland and Blinken amongst other Talmudic demons are running the entire American show.

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 26 2024 2:07 utc | 137

We are a country adrift.
Posted by: RLTW | Jan 26 2024 2:07 utc | 137
It is certainly a nation mostly devoid of reality.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2024 2:09 utc | 138

They were apparently “Ordered” by the US Navy to abort passage due to the risk of a “Kiloton range conventional explosion” occurring should they be hit or a major fire break out.
Posted by: Kiloton Blast | Jan 25 2024 17:50 utc | 47
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The secondaries would make the best deterrent to shipping.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 26 2024 2:51 utc | 139

Biden and Blinken genuinely hoping the Chinese will help them out of the mess that the USA got itself into is yet further evidence of both men’s delusion and utter stupidity.
Posted by: Jonathan Canuck | Jan 25 2024 17:58 utc | 48
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Looking to blame a viable contender in the US International blame game. The Russians, now the Chinese are ‘not helping world peace.’
Nothing genuine comes out of that crew. I think of Sullivan as not too bright and a toady to Blinken, whose string are pulled by a bunch of neo-cons, some visible, some not, at least not to me.
It makes the impression on me that the US is making some erratic moves, Ukraine, Gaza, Houthis, Southern Border. Waiting for karlof1 to straighten me out.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 26 2024 2:56 utc | 140

First Time Poster@109

I don’t think you’ve been paying very much attention. There has not been a single attack anywhere near the waterline of a vessel.

I am aware of that. You attribute this to intent while I attribute this to the challenge aiming drones and missiles against a moving target that’s often out of sight range. The goal is to do damage to the Israeli economy. Let me know if you’re aware of a Houthi statement where they explain only “shooting to wound” and promise never to try and actually sink a ship or kill its crew. Given that no such statement exists there’s zero basis on which to say that Hotuhis are “missing” vital strike zones on purpose.
Cynic@129

If a missile-hit ship sank in a messy way, the Western mass-media would be instructed to blank out Israeli genocide in Gaza via hysterical headlines about “Houthis cause environmental disaster!”

I really hope that when (not if) the Houthis sink a ship that GAE MSM comes up with a better narrative than this because only woke fools would buy such a vapid lie.

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 26 2024 3:03 utc | 141

Honzo@132

The US destroyed 85% of the structures in Korea during the Korean war, killed 20% of the population.

Irrelevant. We’re in a different geopolitical context now. See: the world’s outrage at indiscriminate killing in Gaza. The only way USA could get away with war crimes of such magnitude again is by a complete media blackout that is much harder to pull off under modern tech.

If they have to, I’m sure they’ll sink some ships, but they don’t have to.

Do you have some connections in Houthi command structure that tipped you off to this? You don’t “threaten to wound” if you’re going through the trouble of committing violence. Or do you think they Houthis would be upset if they managed to sink a Zionist ship or even damage/sink a USN ship? Hell no. They’d be celebrating a great victory over the two Satans! Or did you forget what the Houthi Movement slogan is? I urge you to refresh your memory.

Smells like troll.

And here it is! The lazy defense of someone upset at having to actually substantiate their points. Thank you for letting me know you are fresh out of arguments. Please, call me an incel next. That’ll really help bolster your position! :^)

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 26 2024 3:12 utc | 142

This looks interesting.
“Our goal is to stop the genocide”: The Grayzone interviews Houthi spokesman.
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/25/interview-houthi-spokesman/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 26 2024 3:34 utc | 143

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 26 2024 1:22 utc | 128
Thank you, karlof1. Pepe’s essay will be the last I will read tonight. Thank you for reminding me of Prof. Hudson’s connection to Trotsky – I know nothing about him really, as I know nothing about my father’s chaplain who baptized me on the way to war. Boris Pasternak makes similar connections at the end of “Dr. Zhivago” as characters from his novel come together momentarily and then go their ways. Moments of clarity… Pepe is one of those kinds of people. I remember his enthusiasm back at the beginning of the new Silk Road project, making it come alive.
And it all began for me here, thanks to b. I was thinking, if the US does abandon Ukraine for greener pastures (or oilier ones) then perhaps Russia can conclude its task there and turn further eastward as well – I took Lavrov’s message at the UN to be that family comes first commitment wise. Especially this year.
Well, to read!

Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2024 4:18 utc | 144

Professor Mohammad Marandi. A very distant relative of mine and I are quite on the same page when he says the war in Gaza is lost. I recommend this interview by Finian Cunnigham over at SCF. It is all encompassing with answers to some of the questions being raised at the bar.
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/01/25/the-united-states-and-israel-are-blowing-up-the-mideast-to-conceal-their-disastrous-defeat-in-gaza/

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 26 2024 4:28 utc | 145

Chinese ships are not headed to “israel” due to the zionists inability to complete all the necessary “paperwork”.

Posted by: Stonedar | Jan 26 2024 4:39 utc | 146

The Houthi strategy for now does not hinge on the sinking of any naval vessel. The strategy if I had to guess to force the USN to engage the incoming missiles/drones/etc. and deplete the very expensive USN missile stocks.
This plays into their favor in two ways, the hegemon has to respond because a non response makes them look weak, it is par for the course accepted that the US can defeat any strategy by any rival via “brute” force if it wants to. The Houthis are banking on this reaction and are for the most part in control of how the US reacts.
The US has to try to shoot these drones/missiles down as it may them look impotent if they don’t, it looks like some are even getting through although not causing much damage.
The bigger benefit is that it depletes USN missile stocks and I suspect that is untenable for the US and the USN and they will be forced to either pull out entirely or take decisive action against the missile or drone component supplier which is Iran. However, the longer the US waits the more missiles that get fired and the weakening both supply wise and prestige of the USN. The more missiles/weapons that get fired by the US/Israel before a confrontation with Iran, the weaker the US gets when an actual confrontation will be at hand, in fact if the decision to attack Iran is not made quickly it makes an attack all the more harder.
This is a well thought out strategy and it is something Russia/China should learn from, they refuse to play the smaller proxy game but as can be seen it can be effective. The goal here doesn’t seem to be to defeat the US militarily directly per se but rather to have it lose hegemon status and eventually pull out from Iraq/Syria and therefore lower even more the potential for the success of an all out attack against Iran.
It’s a risky strategy and I believe Iran has accepted it will be attacked either way and you will know the attack is coming when the US pulls out of Iraq/Syria as that will be the sign an attack is coming, but I suspect if the attack is not devastating the Iranians will parry and respond proportionately and wait for the US to claim victory and call it a day.
Either way the US bluff has been called and a wider war is almost inevitable in order to maintain even the appearance of “hegemon” power, it’s just a question if it will be one to save face by the US or an actual all out war which would likely call Putin’s hand in Syria and fully turn Russia away from Israel in the area.

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 26 2024 4:40 utc | 147

by karlof1 | Jan 26 2024 1:22 utc | 128
Thanks for mentioning that. I have been following it, elsewhere.
Naryshkin described the warnings of numerous Western officials as part of an “information war” being waged against both Russia and the populations of their own countries.
He finally got his act together, as I always thought he was the weakest link in the RF cabinet. Maybe a deceptive character, but his pre-SMO assessments of Ukrainian internal indications were crap.
Naryshkin’s remarks come after Admiral Rob Bauer, the chair of the NATO Military Committee..
That guy is straight from the action sitcom, early this century “24”. Sutherland, the young one, played the USA savior Deep State special agent, something – his name was Bauer.
Psy-op done long time, becomes a triple edged, intangible, but very destructive boomerang alike force.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 26 2024 5:01 utc | 148

Silverton @ 147
Great call, my views are that the Iraq pull out is in response to Israel’s insistence on attacking Iran. So as to reduce the number of possible targets for retaliation.
No US presence in Iraq means Syrian occupation is untenable.
Israel is caught between a rock and a hard place. The sea blockade by Yemen, Iraq and Iran as well as the unsecured borders with Hezbollah is causing mayhem.
ICJ ruling means other countries can boycott Israel too.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 26 2024 5:03 utc | 149

Gamaleya Center Director Alexander Gintsburg being congratulated by Russian President Vladimir Putin after receiving the Order of Alexander Nevsky on November 8, 2021.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 25 2024 20:52 utc | 79
Indeed, many questions still linger about the WEF’s covid and that Russia and China were 100% onboard. All those Chinese walking around and suddenly dropping dead, something no other country ever saw, welding people into apartments and so on. In a way they triggered the severe lock downs world wide. And now Russia fully endorsing the mRNA drugs currently killing so many people worldwide. Hmm.
Good reasons for it? Hard to see how but maybe, but there again they have never been shared. Off topic certainly, but Russia and China’s roles and motivations affect all events world wide.

Posted by: Organic | Jan 26 2024 5:12 utc | 150

“Imagine the PR victory the Houthis would get if they manage to sink a ship that’s supplying the evil Zionist regime! They’d become heroes in ME overnight.”
Haven’t you been paying attention? The Houthis ARE heroes in the ME and pretty much everywhere except the Western hegemon. They have a noble cause and an incredibly reasonable demand. They don’t need to be unnecessarily violent. Scaring off two shiploads of weaponry destined for Israel and embarrassing the U.S. Navy is absolutely poetic.

Posted by: Valerie in Australia | Jan 26 2024 5:18 utc | 151

Yet another strong reason for countries in to integrate with the Belt and Road rail network.
There must be renewed negotiations going on now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more countries joining our upgrading their BRI ties in the coming months/years.
A century ago, battleships proved to be an expensive but outdated indulgence.
In 2024, the whole USN can be compared to the expensive battleships of yesteryear

Posted by: littlereddot | Jan 26 2024 5:23 utc | 152

From Pepe Escobar’s latest, courtesy of karlof1’s link at Jan 26 2024 1:22 utc | 128:

The Straussian neocons in charge of US foreign policy could never accept Russia-China leading the way towards a multipolar world. For now we have NATO’s perpetual expansionism as their strategy to debilitate Russia, and Taiwan as their strategy to debilitate China.
Yet in these past two years, the vicious proxy war in Ukraine only accelerated the transition towards a multipolar, Eurasia-driven world order.

From Mikhail Bulkakov’s novel The Master and Margarita, his epigraph, I will add this quotation from Goethe’s Faust :

“. . .who are you, then?”
“I am part of that power which eternally
wills evil and eternally works good.”

Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2024 5:25 utc | 153

Asabiyya cropped up in a lecture I was listening to yesterday evening on Unity FM Radio station, by a Caribbean sounding brother in the meaning of racism or nationalism.
Islam , like Socialism, detests Nationalism , and the Ultra Conservative West has always tried to encourage Arab Nationalism so that it can consign Islam to the dustbin of narrow-mi ded nationalism.
Zionism is asabiyya and it is poisonous.
The word is a Western trap for doing what it always does. Denigrating lol Islam.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 26 2024 5:50 utc | 154

@ Suresh | Jan 26 2024 5:03 utc | 149
I didn’t want to post it but if any wider war breaks out against Iran, whether face saving or not for the US it is basically over for Israel as a bastion and “unsinkable” outpost for the hegemon. Israel would not necessarily go away but its expansionist/mini empire would be over and it would be forced to accept the reality of its position in the region.
It’s too late for Israel/USA to take on Iran, they waited too long, because the US cannot inflict a total defeat on Iran without a ground invasion and its probable that if Iran detected that was the case, they would sprint towards nuclear capability. Such a move in the USA is domestically not possible.
The Israelis have cornered themselves and the US with it into a corner, the US always has the option to walk away from the region albeit with the loss of “hegemon” status, it can however stay as “great” revenant power for the West much as the Eastern Roman Empire after the larger Roman Empire collapse. Israel however is not so lucky, I suspect the US maintains ultimate control over their nuclear weapons capacity as any use of Israeli nuclear weapons in the region/world is about the only thing that would threaten the actual US homeland. A pawn is a pawn at the end of the day, they will be scarified if need be.
I suspect the actual power centers in Israel that care about the continuation of the Israeli state are beginning to realize that the US will walk away if forced to do so from the region and are beginning to realize it’s time to cool down the situation. The reports of Hamas being offered 2 months of cease fire and a significant number of Palestinian prisoners/hostages and a path for an eventual cease fire are pretty strong indicators that the message is getting through to the Israeli power centers, never mind Netenyahu, he is just a figurehead, the real power lies behind the scenes. The problem however lies in the Israeli military power centers, it’s basically asking them to admit they have lost the contest with Iran with little to no actual damage to Iran , a very bitter pill to swallow. I don’t think they will do so and I believe they will try the suicide route if allowed, this is the military leadership, they are basically a mirror image of Ukrainian military leadership, both fanatical and not truly considering the reality and very real limitations of the “hegemon” nor their enemies very real capability to inflict damage on the “hegemon” from multiple angles(militarily, economic, prestige, morally, etc.)
In any case the current belligerent/expansionist Israel is experiencing it’s last dying breaths as it’s impossible to continue without provoking a wider war and dragging the US into it and possibly calling Putin’s hand in Syria which the US does not want to call. CIA Burns is headed over to the region to try to convince Hamas to agree to what basically amounts to a cease fire in return for the hostages and freeze the conflict in order to get Israel to calm down and stop the Iranian proxy escalation.
It’s ironic that the Israeli power structure rightly predicted that Iran was/would be an existential threat to an expansionist Israel back in the early 2000s but it was not via the nuclear route they had predicted but rather via the proxy route and waiting for the “hegemon” to basically be in its weakest condition to call their bluff. Israel is holding terrible cards in this game and they get worse by the day.
If I had to guess the “cooler” heads like Burns will not prevail and a limited “face saving” arial/cruise missile type strike will take place against Iran and the US will pull out of Syria/Iraq and Iran will respond with a limited attack on US assets on the region. The US will call it a win and begin pulling away from the region, under its current state it can no longer maintain a credible/deterrent presence in the region. The US militarily is also not keen on taking on Iran seriously especially the US military power centers as certain weapons systems/tactics/command would be exposed as wholly inadequate and lacking in terms of taking on a country with serious capability, think Vietnam X 10.
In short the USA will not sacrifice itself for Israel, the bluff has been called, ironically by the Houthis.

Posted by: silverdog | Jan 26 2024 6:15 utc | 155

Notice how the MSM always refers to the “Iranian-backed Houthis.” This serves the purpose of planting the seed in the public’s mind that the Houthis are incapable of agency without direction and support from Iran.
Posted by: Rob | Jan 25 2024 21:51 utc | 98

If I were Iran (lol!) I’d be pleased at this unsolicited brand-enhancement being offered gratis by the West on a perpetual hourly basis.

How nice of the West to remind the world that the only functioning state fighting Western Imperialism in the M.E is Iran.
Eventually (perhaps soon) the Anglo-Zionist Empire is going to have to admit defeat in the Middle East and when the credits come rolling in it will be Iran that gets it all.
The “Iran Backed” expulsion of Western Imperial forces from the Middle East.
Will Ayatollah Ali Khamenei be the modern-day Saladin who drives the pseudo-Christian crusaders back from Jerusalem?

(who was it that said Iranians are nothing more than Kurds after all? Wasn’t Saladin a Kurd?)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 8:02 utc | 156

fyi
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1750740123967463586
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand
You’ve frankly got to marvel at the West’s (utter lack of) strategy in the red sea.
The US and the UK managed to get their ships banned from the red sea passage after their bombing campaign.
Meanwhile China, unaffected by the ban, is quite logically redeploying its ships to serve the route, taking advantage of the new competitive advantage that they got served on a golden platter.
The US then asks China to bail them out and help them curb the attacks, bizarrely preferring to go through the humiliation of begging their main geopolitical rival for help rather than rein in Israel. And the weirdest thing is: why on earth would China do that? The U.S. has been multiplying hostile moves on China for years, they’ve made it clear that their principal objective remains to contain China and they’ve now shot themselves in the foot in a way that benefits China. How far gone can they be to think China would help in that context?
China’s response was that “the Red Sea tension is a ‘spillover’ from the Gaza conflict, which should be ended as soon as possible”. In other words: fix your own goddam mess!

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 26 2024 8:11 utc | 157

US and China do talk now in Bangkok..
Snake Sullivan and Wang Yi are there for 2 days , that is what the Bangkok Post did report.
But I do think that the US just want to block the fuel to the EU….

Posted by: HTG | Jan 26 2024 8:28 utc | 158

Snake Sullivan and Wang Yi are there for 2 days , that is what the Bangkok Post did report.
Posted by: HTG | Jan 26 2024 8:28 utc | 158
I wonder if he will call Xi Jinping a dictator again.
Someone should get a reporter to pose that question …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 8:48 utc | 159

From English.almayadeen.net referencing Israeli Channel 12 Breaking news (I don’t have date). See Michaelj72 for complete link.
“Israeli Channel 12:
The war cabinet is discussing Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal.
” ‘Israel’ considers the meeting crucial to unify the path of Qatari and Egyptian mediation in order to exert joint pressure on Hamas
“The director of the CIA, the head of the Qatari government, the head of Egyptian intelligence, the head of the Mossad, and the head of the Shin Bet will meet in Europe.
“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
“ Hamas’ proposal includes a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Strip and a complete ceasefire.
“Hamas’ proposal involves a humanitarian release ratio of 100 prisoners for each captive.
“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
“Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal includes a ceasefire ranging from 10 to 14 days before the release of the captives.
“Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal includes a ceasefire ranging from 10 to 14 days before the release of the captive.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 26 2024 9:21 utc | 160

68 DuchessandBob Very helpful information.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 26 2024 9:29 utc | 161

Goooood Morning Empire – I love the smell of your Apocalypse in the morning!
Lloyds of London has suddenly felt its age !
When you get to such a venerable maturity it takes sometime to get used to the idea that you ain’t able to recover from falls and burns so easily! That rather than a simple bruising the damage could be a crippling broken hip and a long period of bedridden recovery if at all… followed by a rotten slow death.
When that particular Old Lady of the City (yes I know I am extending the metaphor) suddenly gets careful – the City knows it has reached its limits and is heading towards its final curtain!
It is also a fat old lady’s opening scream to her final song (yes,yes again , and mixing, I know .. but it’s early and brain is stuck on imagery to make shortcuts 😉)
Ah dear who will insure us now?? How will anything ever sail on the high seas? What will happen to all the centuries of records of imperial colonisation by all European states tasked to achieve it, underwritten by the Names! The ultimate rent collectors.
If the Yemenis hadn’t stopped traffic in the region the Zionazis would be doing to prove their escalation dominance. That arm wrestle is over , the frail bone has snapped. The muscle is torn.
The choice is to choose under whose mercy to be thrown under. The sheikhs of your moneys or the maker of all your needs?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 26 2024 9:30 utc | 162

Israel has created Hamas…
If all USUKIS want is a permanent base in the Middle East…
The truth is that USUKIS only wants a base in West Asia as a Crusade against Islam.
Posted by: Giyane | Jan 25 2024 23:24 utc | 118
With respect, I think you have cause and effect backwards.
Firstly: Israel did not “create” Hamas.
Have you tried to inform yourself on the history of the Palestinian resistance? It is much more than “Hamas” and predates the existence of “Hamas”. Israel’s influence is overrated.
Hamas started out as an Islamic charity. When I see the number of schools, hospitals, universities, nice kindergartens etc. that Israel has bombed, I think they must have done a good job. Gaza has a near 100% literacy rate despite being under siege and one of the poorest areas.
Al Qassam, the armed wing is only loosely connected to the political wing of Hamas. There are many other armed groups. They seem to operate by neighbourhood on turf they know because they’ve lived nowhere else their entire lives.
Secondly: USUK want and have wanted control over West Asian reources since 19th century hydrocarbon discoveries.
Look at the map of US bases in West Asia. Anywhere there is oil and gas, there has been a USUK base for decades, sometimes predating the existence of the country. EXCEPT IRAN.
Part of the reason is geographic: Iran is larger and farther away. The 6 GCC desert countries for those who do not understand the topography and demographics have a very unique type of economy with the possible exception of Oman which has more agriculture. If your entire country is mostly desert, you can NEVER have the same type of economy as floodplains served by rivers etc.
With their small populations they are fragile and vulnerable. Yemen has a way bigger population than all 6 GCC combined. KSA was only allowed to have “independence” after Standard Oil set up ops there. The other 5 GCC countries are younger than many if not most barflies it seems.
Thirdly: the “crusade against Islam” started late 1990s, made official late September 2001 is a POLITICAL STRATEGY to take control over West Asian reources.
The West’s objective to control West Asian resources has F*CK all to do with religion. In the 19th century when Arab nationalists were socialist rather than religious, Islam was NEVER mentioned.
The “PLO or Arab terrorist” was THE antagonist in popular culture (movies, books). Islam was NEVER mentioned. Following the 1990s, as most of the region moved to Western style market economies, socialism was no longer a boogeyman. Enter the new antagonist “religious terror”.
From your previous posts, I understand you are Muslim and want to remind us that real Islam is different from the Western narrative of “rliegious terrorist” used for its resource wars.
I think your constant reminders are counterproductive. You are doing Empire’s job. Do we talk about “political Judaism” or “political Christianity” to describe the genocide by Israel or NATO’s 32 years of bombing Islamic countries? No. With good reason.
If the entire Islamic world (especially those sitting on oil and gas) embraced Buddhism en masse today, by tomorrow we would have a war against Political Buddhism.
In Europe you have a ton of parties with names like “Christian Democrats”. How many headlines have you seen about political Christianity? I have seen zero.
Caricatures of “political Islam” are geopolitical strategy tools. Anyone who thinks people of a certain religion are more prone to “terror” than others is a bigot. Journalists, think tank types get big money to promote this idea. Useful idiot bigots fall for it. Painting every West Asian conflict as “sectarian” is exaggerated. We all fight over the same things. Rivers, borders, islands etc. Info in English is tip of the iceberg.
Have you read John Mearsheimer’s book on the AIPAC lobby (2006)? It was a sneaky way of reinforcing the need to continue war on West Asia by pushing Islam as the cause. Public support for the 2003 Iraq invasion was waning. Israel and the US Zionist lobby were instrumental in pushing that war. Listen to Scott Ritter’s recent revelations. No matter how pro Palestine
My point is: Empire has been so hard at work to push the idea of religious terror. This is an oxymoron. All terror is a crime never mind if the perpetrator is alleged to have shouted “Hail Buddha” before being shot dead and dropping his indestructible passport.
Sorry for the long post, but since you talk about this so often I thought I’d throw in my two cents.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 9:51 utc | 163

ps: I meant 20th century Arab nationalism

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 9:53 utc | 164

pq @ 163
MOA fine tuning at its very best.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 9:59 utc | 165

“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
“Hamas’ proposal includes a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Strip and a complete ceasefire.
“Hamas’ proposal involves a humanitarian release ratio of 100 prisoners for each captive.
“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
“Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal includes a ceasefire ranging from 10 to 14 days before the release of the captives.
“Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal includes a ceasefire ranging from 10 to 14 days before the release of the captive.”
Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 26 2024 9:21 utc | 160
Hamas have a wonderful way of f***ing things up at just the moment they seem to get an edge on the situation.
Unless they have an unbeatable strategy for military victory hidden in those tunnels, these terms are nothing more than an invitation to prolong genocide!
Sometimes I could almost believe they’re controlled opposition with the way the negotiate an end to violence.

Long has it been known that those who capable in waging war are incapable of waging peace.

Hamas should hand the negotiations over to a competent party like Hezbollah to set intelligent terms on behalf of their Palestinian people.
Idiots.
>“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
And then what? Subject Palestinians to more butchery?
>“Hamas’ proposal includes a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Strip and a complete ceasefire.
A withdrawal from the strip? Where to? The old concentration camp fence or the new mined “buffer” zone the izzraeli bulldozers are creating as we speak?
>“Hamas’ proposal involves a humanitarian release ratio of 100 prisoners for each captive.
What’s the point? Izzrael will simply hand them back on stretchers or rearrest them all again.
>“Hamas’ proposal includes ceasefire periods between stages extending for approximately two months.
During which the entire western world will funnel weapons, mercenaries and special forces to make sure when this all starts up again the “job will be done right”.
>“Hamas’ proposal for the exchange deal includes a ceasefire ranging from 10 to 14 days before the release of the captives.
During which the Palestinian people will die of disease, exposure, grief and the existential horror of realizing there is no end to this nightmare …
Given all this, a fate worse than death, it is better to die in one final push for freedom.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 10:17 utc | 166

Remember: The ICJ case is a judgment upon itself and international law as a concept. Regardless the outcome, coming oh so soon, the victory of exposure is already obtained by the Resistance. This next part is gravy, either Israel’s leaders can be sued around the world for criminality, or we reveal that international law is a mug’s game.
Enjoy a brand new day!

Posted by: titmouse | Jan 26 2024 10:28 utc | 167

pq | Jan 26 2024 9:51 utc | 163
“Do we talk about “political Judaism” or “political Christianity” to describe the genocide by Israel or NATO’s 32 years of bombing Islamic countries?”
Of course the imperial media never uses such terms. But it seems to me these are synonyms for “Zionism” and “Christian Zionism (Dispensationalism)” respectively. There’s no doubt about the Christian Zionist influence on US foreign policy toward the Middle East.
I agree completely that the religion of the rightful stewards of the land there is irrelevant to the Zionist aggression and touted only for propaganda purposes.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jan 26 2024 10:32 utc | 168

“Have a chuckle at your 24 buddies who had their balls blown off while trying to mine a Palestinian building.
It’s tough being a Jew , first they take the foreskin then they take your nuts too!”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 25 2024 17:33 utc | 44
Ah, yes. The rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth Jew hater drops its pretense. I wonder if you feel bad about the 35,000 “Palestinians”, too? Or is a dead Jew worth a few hundred dead brown people? You’re an obnoxious, and sad little person, and you do a disservice to this forum.

Posted by: BigMikeObama | Jan 26 2024 10:53 utc | 169

Yeah, well done, pq. Not least for pointing out that Hamas is a political party/charity, and only loosely paired with the Al Qassam brigades who are the actual parties responsible for the Oct 7th resistance response.
Hamas builds schools and feeds people. It doesn’t fight or murder.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 10:58 utc | 170

“Hamas builds schools and feeds people. It doesn’t fight or murder.”
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 10:58 utc | 170
Wait, wut? How dare you insult the martyrs.

Posted by: BigMikeObama | Jan 26 2024 11:01 utc | 171

Obama-worshipping hasbarist jumps in misusing and likely purposefully abusing the word “martyr”.
It’s gonna be satisfying watching Ansar Allah systematically breaking apart the Zionist project.
I honestly never thought I’d live to see it, but now here it is unfolding before my very living eyes.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 26 2024 11:11 utc | 172

BigMikeObarma @ 169
Some jews are ok, the ones protesting aganst Israel, speaking up pro Hamas, pro Gaza, pro palistine, pro Yemen, pro Iran, their fine and just dandy.
The jews that support Israelies Genicide of inocent people in Gaza or stay silent are beneaf contempt.
I also dislike the jews that curupt govenment democracy, and the ones that think they are superior or deserve speacal treatment..
Those jews are now the problem world wide.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 11:17 utc | 173

Is it a feasible assumption to think the US is pulling out its troops in Syria and Iraq in preparation for a bigger war with Iran. I cannot see how they could acheive any victory if this is the plan.

Posted by: Scot1and | Jan 26 2024 11:22 utc | 174

ICJ livestream
https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1u/k1uwq4cxuv

Posted by: Exile | Jan 26 2024 11:35 utc | 175

There has NEVER been a ship sunk by a ballistic missile in wartime, and Ansar Allah’s usage is a first. This is a big data gathering exercise for a new class of weapons.
Posted by: First Time Poster | Jan 25 2024 22:49 utc | 109

During the Falklands War in 1982, the British ship HMS Sheffield, a guided missile destroyer was sunk by an French Exocet missile fired by the Argentinians. The Exocet was air launched.
I remember at the time (without having much details) thinking if the Exocet cost £200,000 and the ship cost £10’s of millions then the Argentinians seemed to have gotten the best of the encounter.
I also seem to remember that the British had to call on the US for additional air defence systems and resources.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jan 26 2024 11:39 utc | 176

ABOBA
““The US destroyed 85% of the structures in Korea during the Korean war, killed 20% of the population.”
Irrelevant. “
Spoken like a true American!
Booyah!

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jan 26 2024 11:40 utc | 177

126
sas david sterling hit and run
major general sir frank kidson gangs counter gangs and pseudo gang
he wrote books the book on low intensity war craft demolition of a country without having to use the blunt instrument of full invasion by the british army

Posted by: todd l | Jan 26 2024 11:42 utc | 178

Ah, yes. The rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth Jew hater drops its pretense. I wonder if you feel bad about the 35,000 “Palestinians”, too? Or is a dead Jew worth a few hundred dead brown people? You’re an obnoxious, and sad little person, and you do a disservice to this forum.
Posted by: BigMikeObama | Jan 26 2024 10:53 utc | 169
Wait? Wut? How in the …?
Buddy. You’ve had a bit too much to drink.
Sleep it off and come back tomorrow.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2024 11:42 utc | 179

Watching AlJazeera live feed to the court:
https://www.aljazeera.com/

Posted by: Menz | Jan 26 2024 12:01 utc | 180

damn i know you have to provide context but get to the judgement.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:06 utc | 181

dispute does exist! step 1

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 26 2024 12:14 utc | 182

yeah so far this is sounding promising (fingers crossed)

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:17 utc | 183

“In order to know a weapon system works properly, it must be tested. With modern ISR, no test can be camouflaged. One of the reasons why advanced weapons systems are touted by their makers is for deterrence, and you test them overtly to let your opposition know you’re not bluffing. And to insure your opponent knows you aren’t shooting a test weapon at it and risk retaliation, you announce it in advance and specify the test zones via international warnings to mariners and airlines–one of the few treaties the Outlaw US Empire obeys.
So, you can type up all sorts of Wunderwaffen, but proving they actually exist is the task.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 25 2024 21:50 utc | 97
Magisterial post-thanks for the tutorial.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 26 2024 12:18 utc | 184

“The efforts at narrative control have become so blatant that it’s a wonder that anyone believes them.”
Posted by: Rob | Jan 25 2024 21:51 utc | 98
Yes it is laughable to us but for the average Serf the repetition does work, unfortunately.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 26 2024 12:21 utc | 185

“If the entire Islamic world (especially those sitting on oil and gas) embraced Buddhism en masse today, by tomorrow we would have a war against Political Buddhism.”
Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 9:51 utc | 163
Classic line!!
One of the few times that prose deserves bold print.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 26 2024 12:25 utc | 186

“Ah, yes. The rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth Jew hater drops its pretense. I wonder if you feel bad about the 35,000 “Palestinians”, too? Or is a dead Jew worth a few hundred dead brown people? You’re an obnoxious, and sad little person, and you do a disservice to this forum.”
Posted by: BigMikeObama | Jan 26 2024 10:53 utc | 169
Throwing childish, ill advised ad hominens at Arch only impoverishes your actual point.
And what actually is your point?
Is it that Israel was justly provoked to this genocide? Are you are secretly envious of Arch’s erudite posts? Please tell.
Kindly make your argument, sans ad hominens that contradicts Archs’ or fuck off.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 26 2024 12:33 utc | 187

this is devastating imo to Israel’s phony case.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:36 utc | 188

Israel is guilty of Genicide, a clear cut case. They need to cease and desised as of now, are america and england going to continue facilitating Genicide from here on in.
This ruling is game chainging (understatement)

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 12:36 utc | 189

No one has given a proper update on how the every day Israelis feel about the British government called Israel in the middle east and in the USA white house? Seems to me the British gave up the pound hedgemon at Bretton Woods in exchange for military support and dollar support from the USA for British Interest worldwide?
I blame the British for WWI, WWII, and WWIII. and for the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine.

Posted by: snake | Jan 26 2024 12:39 utc | 190

i dont know who the hell the Ugandan judge is, why is she so invested in protecting genocide?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:45 utc | 191

So what about the imeidiate realese of hostages held by israel ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 12:45 utc | 192

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2024 12:45 utc | 192
that was the first thing i thought of, i guess a fig leaf to Israel to make it more palatable?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:47 utc | 193

FUCK THE ICJ
Blood on their hands

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:48 utc | 194

it also neatly undercuts Israel’s rationalization for the whole genocide.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:48 utc | 195

The court is giving ground to all SA claims by 15/2 or 16/2.
Huge success

Posted by: Minaa | Jan 26 2024 12:48 utc | 196

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:48 utc | 194
why? they are supporting the SA case in almost every respect.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:50 utc | 197

A whole bunch of fucking blab blah blah to say go ahead and keep killing but make sure you give thenm a last meal of animal feed.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:50 utc | 198

Congratulations to the resistance…to Hamas especially…for finally making the whole widey world SEE the horrible plight of the Palestinian people and say that “israel” must stop genociding them!!!!!

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Jan 26 2024 12:51 utc | 199

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 26 2024 12:50 utc | 197
The number one thing needed was a ceasefire and they did not order it.
Nothing can happen without a ceasefire
Israel has already claimed it is providing aid. They just lie lie lie.

Posted by: pq | Jan 26 2024 12:51 utc | 200