@101 comrade simba
Your assuming 10000 would break though decisively. I say no, if they bunch up that much a himars will intercept them. It’s happened before. 10000 losses would get them to slaviansk kramatorsk, not in it.
They have to take time to wear down any defences with every weapon in their arsenal before advancing. In this sense Ukraine can set the pace. Watch the war videos and note how few soldiers actually do anything at the same time.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 13 2023 1:41 utc | 104

by comrade simba | Dec 13 2023 1:00 utc | 101
Kamerade Leone, that is not enough.
I agree that it is better to smash Ukraine now and hard, then slug on for the next 2 years along the endless fields, losing people along.
What is missing is demise and a crumbling of NATO as well, as a military, political and economic crunch on the USA and its blackmailed allies.
Some people say that slower it goes, more chance for more cracks appear.
And that might be the truth, but we are now in the phase where the major crush can crack open big rotten egg and create succession of downfalls, from v.d. Leyen and her posse, down to Bibi and the Nazi settlers sect. or so I hope.
Unconditional surrender and nothing else for Ukraine and NATO would be just enough. Naively, I know, but breaking the back of the beast is definitely needed at this point.

Posted by: whirlX | Dec 13 2023 1:55 utc | 106

neo and whirl –
I’d guess that a no holds barred balls to the wall CHARGE!!!! would result in less than 10K casualties. The Ukies would run like hell and/or surrender in droves once their “minders” ran away to save their ass. The amount of stockpiled materiel backed up behind the front is like a racehorse in the chute ready to go. The gross underestimation of Russian forces built up in the last 6 months and their present real time increase in production is a story that will stagger the imagination once it is told.
Fully committed Big Arrow blitzkrieg across Sumi crossing the Dnipro south of Kiev gets to spread out over the entire Kiev oblast shooting at shit running from the rest of the eastern and southern lines going ape shit through ammo-less grandpa troops. Blocker troops and mercs in drag hiding under every haystack leaving the volksturm to throw down thier weapons and weep with relief.
I’m getting real tired of this war. Rock and roll and shut off the gas. Ground’s hard… get it on.

Posted by: comrade simba | Dec 13 2023 3:00 utc | 108

RE: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 17:04 utc | 31
Thx for blog link (in Palestine post). I read your entire post and Maria’s entire post and interview. I admit it took awhile to thoroughly read through it all, but it was worth it. There was a lot of information I didn’t know about Denmark. But especially Switzerland. I heard here and there about their “bends” in neutrality, but had not realized it had gotten so brazenly bad.
It was all a helpful post, especially when she gave many solid examples throughout the EU citing specific public events, glorifying Nazi atrocities with regards to certain members. Again, had not realized throughout EU various ceremonies here and there have been exercised.
All in all, I still have to ingest the other 75% of the post, but it was helpful indeed for an aerial view, along with Palestine “mindset” — Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine/EU—-Ethnic cleansing in Palestine… 🤔 not really “an accident”….or “coincidence”…
I’m not sure if you know, or other MOA posters know…
I’ve a curiosity regarding Finland:
First I heard about the awful Russian flooding them with immigrants so … by gosh… gonna close all borders!!
(My take in that nonsense is most likely, in better times, Russia and Finland had corporation agreements regarding “border control and such… my guess is Russia all these years has been footing the bill, keeping Russia ad well as Finland secure and when Finland said “FU” to Russia, Russia a continued to uphold their border arrangements, footing the bill and all for a year or more, till finally, they were… we FU too) …
Anyways, then I hear the EU supposedly droned on about immigration “rights”… and heard that some NATO troops were now going to Patrol Border… or put some “Border Base” in, manned by NATO troops… and the next thing is…
Well lo and behold, after closing all 4 borders, they’re re-opening 3.
Does anyone know what the deal is there??
Is there some attempt to start sending nonsense through the Border?
Anyways if you have any information about the Finland plots, if any, I’d like to find out their sudden enthusiasm for throwing open the barn doors since they love Russia so much these days. Thx.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 13 2023 3:28 utc | 110

Life on the frontline, in Russian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiQGC5btArw&t=437s

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 13 2023 4:19 utc | 112

Zelensky’s entire trip to the United States is purely formal. He was invited to warm up the Ukrainian case so that the Democrats would have more trump cards to blame the Reps for the future defeat of Kyiv.
Ze was just a “doll” who was taken around everywhere and promoted, but the effect so far was “zero”, as we immediately insided.
In fact, Biden this time used Ze in an internal American game before the elections.
Biden has said he is willing to compromise on border issues with Republicans. “We need real solutions,” Joe said (but according to our data, there will be no compromises).
It is beneficial for the democrats themselves to drain the Ukrainian crisis now and then blame the republics for strengthening the Russian Federation, which will be a trump card for them before the elections. If you give Kyiv money now, you will become completely dependent on the Ukrainian crisis. Everyone understands that there will not be a good result, the front will actually remain in the same positions. This will be a death sentence for the Democrats.
We are watching… perhaps the Republic will realize the beauty of the game and themselves will drive Joe and the Democrats into the Ukrainian crisis, giving money for the last time.
For Ze there are still chances for a new loan, but this will drive Ze and Ukraine into a very “bad game”. Although there will be a mega victory right away, as often happens, it will ultimately become a mega disaster.

https://t.me/legitimniy/16884

The West openly tells Zelensky through the media that it is time to carry this “load” himself. The balloon money has run out.
Proposing a simple formula: defense in cities, where it is necessary to fight only with infantry, produce/assemble Soviet and partially Western equipment in Ukraine. Cut social services, raise prices, taxes and tariffs.
In general, we’ll do it ourselves, and we’ll clap for you while standing, but we won’t give you any money.
In fact, this is a death sentence for Zelensky. He promised the Ukrainians a completely different “picture,” but it turned out as usual.
It is worth saying that, according to our data, Zelensky already knew about this situation in the summer, but he told Ukrainians “tales of victory” while keeping the masses in a warm bath.
Let us recall that Zelensky was warned back in the summer of 2022 that Ukraine would fight on its own, namely with infantry in cities.
But Ze thought that he was the most cunning and, instead of a long defense, sent everyone on the offensive (the partners first trained the Ukrainian Armed Forces to conduct defense). Situationally, this gave the plus of valuable large losses, which now “comes out sideways.”

https://t.me/legitimniy/16880

Posted by: Down South | Dec 13 2023 4:50 utc | 114

What happens to Zelensky as an idividual is unimportant to the geopolitical situation. Mercouris made amazing and important point: The current regime is illegitamate and irrelavent when time comes for negotiation. Might be entertaining to see how Ukraine collapses, but not important.
I am more hopeful that west is badly burned on its cynical “investments” in Ukraine and for its theft of Russian assets. But doesnt really matter.
In a manner, the west has done Russia a favor. Now up to Russia and RoW to make something of it. Its a new world order.
The strong do as they will and the weak suffer as they must.

Posted by: jared | Dec 13 2023 5:06 utc | 116

There are no places left in the cemeteries: the Ukrainian general admitted the colossal losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces during the conflict and supported Zaluzhny
The famous Ukrainian general, former deputy commander of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Krivonos, during an interview, stated that “in Ukraine there are no longer just cemeteries.”
According to him, “Cemeteries have turned into entire burial fields,” which Ukrainians understand very well.
“With a huge amount of blood comes an epiphany. The situation is that even at the front, the tension of non-perception of the situation in the country reaches the point that the guys ask questions: “And if we defend Ukraine here in the trenches, then why doesn’t Ukraine protect us?” ? Which representatives of the authorities and public organizations are protecting us here, directly in the rear of Ukraine?” Krivonos emphasized.
If this narrative is voiced by Sergei Krivonos, respected by ordinary Ukrainians and militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the situation is as bad as possible for Zelensky:
1️⃣ Krivonos is Zaluzhny’s comrade. The above statements were made to discredit the leader of the Kyiv regime in the eyes of the population of Ukraine;
2️⃣ the problem of strong distance between the authorities and ordinary soldiers is becoming more noticeable every day. No matter how the President’s Office tries to hide its indifference to the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants, it fails – discontent is growing.
As a result, Krivonos veiledly said that if the country continues to support the Kiev regime, then there will not be enough places to bury the dead mobilized – the losses will be so colossal.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/78866

Posted by: Down South | Dec 13 2023 5:26 utc | 118

A rather quick and entertaining read, “Arestovich Goes Off”, Honest!

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 13 2023 6:08 utc | 120

@Immaculate deception | Dec 12 2023 23:41 utc | 88

I often wonder what would happen if the major religions of the world were transported to Antarctica and had to fight the elements and each other. Who would win?

Russian Orthodox Christianity, represented by people from Siberia. Antarctica is cold.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 13 2023 6:43 utc | 122

Vladimir Rogov reports:
🇷🇺💥🇺🇦☠️The Russian Army has completely liberated Marinka!
Our soldiers drove the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants out of this regional center, located near Donetsk.
Units of the 150th Motorized Rifle Division and the 5th DPR Brigade coordinatedly attacked the enemy positions, knocking out the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the last ruins that the Nazis controlled on the outskirts of the city.
During the battle, some of the militants were destroyed, some were captured, and some fled.
Our fighters wisely used weather conditions; due to bad frosty weather, the enemy was unable to actively use drones and paid the price.
The enemy’s line of defense now runs outside the city.
Thank you that I am no longer Mar’inka!
And Boris “Colonel Cassad” Rozhin reports:
They report further advances of the Russian Armed Forces in Marinka and the loss of some more positions by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the northwestern part of the city. The enemy admits the loss of positions, but claims that he is still clinging to individual positions on the outskirts, although this is no longer particularly important – the main positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already to the west of Marinka.
Apparently, there is not long left before the official announcement of the liberation of Marinka. But let’s wait for the official announcement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/78902

Posted by: Down South | Dec 13 2023 6:55 utc | 124

Re: Posted by: Lex | Dec 13 2023 1:02 utc | 102

Probably best not to overestimate US competence or power. Politically the US has a problem in getting rid of Zelensky because it has propped him up, and it hasn’t done a great job of tearing him down with stories about corruption.

This is nonsense – it’s easy to get rid of him at any time.
You just get one of his bodyguards to double-tap him and blame the Russians.
Problem solved.
Anyone who thinks doing this would create any blowback whatsoever hasn’t been paying attention.
It won’t.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 13 2023 8:20 utc | 126

Re: Posted by: Seer | Dec 13 2023 2:08 utc | 108

Ukraine’s electrical system is severely compromised. It’s running near max and the big loads are yet to hit. It’ll only take a few hits on electrical grids to pretty much cause it to all melt down: cause overload trips to string out like falling dominoes. This is what Russia is planning and what, it looks like, it’s going to have to do. Civil unrest will cause the entire military operation to collapse. Russia then pushes as far as it wants.

Russia is planning to do this are they?!?
I’ll believe it when I see it – people have been saying for over 18 months Russia is about to do this – and so far – a whole lot of not much at all in that respect.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 13 2023 8:26 utc | 128

Time, not funding from Washington is what they are playing for.
If It is true they have 600k personal left as comedian stated yesterday. Which sounds about right, if it was also true, they had a million man army when they took back Kherson and Lyman. So 400k dead or wounded also sounds about right.
Then Time is what they are looking for. Drones can be produced quickly as you can just 3D print them. Which negates the problems with shells.
Then, This isn’t over by a long shot and I don’t understand why some are declaring a quick victory. 600k is a lot of men to create a strong defensive line in better positions.
Russia doesn’t seem that bothered at preventing them from building large defenses. As they have been building them in the North for a year now. Near Belarus without any threat of bombing of the construction of these sites.
They would struggle to freeze the conflict where they stand. However, given the time they could freeze the conflict elsewhere.
Time would also give the West time to ramp up production and Ukraine to mobilise more troops.
Time is the key here not funding. Russia hasn’t enough manpower at the moment to rush a 600k defence.
So taking territory suddenly becomes important as the clock ticks. When in the last couple of years Russia wasn’t really that bothered about it. Hence, why now we see moves across the whole front. Again in a slow grinding fashion which is increasing Russian losses.
It is a conundrum. Anything but a quick easy victory. Russia has to stop sitting idle when they build these new lines and defences and bomb them as they are getting built. Should have been doing this in the North instead of admiring their work.
Time is the key here and Russia shouldn’t give them any.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 13 2023 8:54 utc | 130

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 12 2023 18:41 utc | 47
Thank you! This is exactly my feeling

Posted by: Tim | Dec 13 2023 9:01 utc | 132

Spanish PM warns EU does not have financial resources to support Ukraine. Yes, maybe they can always print money but in context of EU de-industrializing and losing export base, it might not be a very good idea.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 13 2023 9:03 utc
Spain can’t – they use the Euro and gave up their sovereignty. So it is TRUE in Spain that Taxes and borrowing in a foreign currency the Euro does fund Spain. As they can no longer ISSUE their own currency.
So Spain is telling the truth.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=stephanie+kelton+euro

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 13 2023 9:11 utc | 134

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 13 2023 9:03 utc | 134
The ECB on the other hand can create as many Euro’s as it wants. The issue is they have to share that total amoung the member states.
What Spain is trying to say and what Orban is saying is fuck that. Because whatever the cost will be to each member state, they have to either collect it in taxes or borrow Euros in order to pay it back.
Unlike, the UK, the US, Japan, Canada etc, etc, who are fully sovereign and issue their own currency. Where borrowing is just a reserve drain and taxes fund nothing.
This is well worth your time below unimperator
https://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/can-taxes-and-bonds-finance-government-spending

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 13 2023 9:22 utc | 136

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 13 2023 9:03 utc | 134
Many now see, well more than used to, that borrowing in a foreign currency is the problem.
Yet, still don’t understand that the Euro is a foreign currency to member states.
It was set up that way on purpose. Took the IMF playbook to a whole different level. To control Europe by a bunch of gangsters and psychopaths.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 13 2023 9:28 utc | 138

The US military just approved more money/supplies for Ukraine, bypassing Congress. Exact amount is unknown yet, but you can bet they’ll push through the maximum they can get away with.
Posted by: bored | Dec 12 2023 14:50 utc | 1

That’s not how that works. That money has already been allocated by Congress. It is almost the last amount of money the US can send, and it was a paltry amount – 100 million dollars.
No more aid can be sent without Congressional approval, which isn’t happening until at least late January or February. By then, it will be too late.
Posted by: James M. | Dec 12 2023 22:21 utc | 71

I seem to recall back in May, that the Pentagon discovered “accounting irregularities” so that they could send an additional $3-6 Billion dollars.
This being the same Pentagon which has never passed a financial audit.
Magic 8-Ball says: “Expect Accounting Errors in Ukraine’s favor in the near future.”
In practice, this means money will be pulled from other black-budget projects. Secret-Squirrels will have to tighten their belts for a while.

Posted by: retroflecks | Dec 13 2023 9:46 utc | 140

bored @112:

“Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
…
this would explain why the war is more or less a stalemate and Ukraine is in no rush to negotiate.

Translation from retard: “This aligns with the baseless false narrative that’s been planted in my shallow, flaccid mind by western mass media for the last couple years.”
The war is not a stalemate. It is going as Russia wants. You only think it is a stalemate because you are a mouth-breathing moron who has no idea what Russia wants, despite Russia having repeatedly and very carefully spelling out what they want.
The Ukraine is in no rush to negotiate because

1. Zelenskyyyiii gets head-chopped by Nazis as soon as he mentions ending the conflict.
2. The Ukraine isn’t calling the shots anyway. From the perspective of the West (which IS calling the shots) the Ukraine isn’t used up yet. There are still some Ukrainians left to shove into the meat grinder, so no negotiations.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 13 2023 10:37 utc | 142

The main thing keeping the AFU front afloat at this point is the increasingly brutal mobilization methods.
Even 0-trained conscripts can to some extent hold a line especially in urban, forested or fortified areas. That is what they are doing.
The US plan seems to be “pull back, delay, and build-up”. Martyanov noted this strategy in his recent video, but said it only comes after the de-facto defeat.
So what we are seeing in Ukraine now is a 100 % military dictatorship where anyone can be picked off from the street at will. Military commissars are roaming through streets, restaurants, sanitoriums, gyms, you name it. Of course, they will be able to get a lot of people this way to still hold a stationary position. It’s the cornerstone of the strategy, while they “build-up and delay”. They were also using the same strategy in the summer of 2022 while building their second army to take on Kherson, and Kharkov-Balakleya-Lyman area.
Meanwhile, Biden changed the rhetoric from “supportin Ukraine for as long as it takes” to “supporting Ukraine as long as is possible”. They may be able to build-up some mass by delaying, but at this rate, the next “counter-offensive” may be beginning from around Pavlograd-Dnepropetrovsk area.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 13 2023 11:18 utc | 144

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 13 2023 11:18 utc | 145
0-trained recruits are not likely to be good for much other than meat shields.
You need at least 6-8 weeks of basic training to create a raw recruit capable of basic soldiering.
If there are 0-days being sent straight to the front, that might explain some of the stories of front collapses around Marinka and the video of UAF fleeing trenches from a single drone strike.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 13 2023 13:08 utc | 146

May i hypothezize (lord knows if thats the correct spelling) how the west may see this currently:
The conflict for them is now existential, but also personal, as they hate everything russian. Not the individual klaus or giuliano on the streets, but top down. And they will dictate to the masses how to think, thanks to propaganda 24/7.
The prize are russian commodities. So for them, printing is not the issue, as they want those russian assets, and that is their goal.
Shells and human resourcess may be difficult to arrange, but they will move mountains to get them from anywhere they can. Pakistan. South korea. Anyone thats bribable/mafiable will comply.
After the ukrainian people are done, poles and romanians are next. Germans, brits, amerikans dont care, as long (for the time beeing, and except mercenaries) as its the “untermenschen“ of slavic descent first.
The calculus here is to inflict enough human blood and destroyed russian military assets so that nato proper can finish them off, as the us did so wonderfully in ww2 with the narrative.
So in order to achieve this, sanctions on everything russian will be implemented. A full siege in all but name. And then secondary sanctions on everyone else, slowly more and more. Its the old german “kauft nicht beim juden!“, just with a slavic twist.
Their calculus is that over time and with enough pressure, aka mafia, that goal will be achieved.
Thats probably in general how they want this. Some eu governments openly stated that they have to prepare for war with russia, like the germans did recently.
So thats why they now will not and cannot let the humiliation on them from russia be achieved.
In their mind, all these expenses so far will be recouperated once they get the russian resourcess.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 13 2023 15:05 utc | 148

Posted by: canuck | Dec 13 2023 13:48 utc | 147
But you are only using the liability side of the balance sheet again Canuck. Let’s use the asset side as well.
Russia doesn’t have large national savings like the Empire (see below) so Russia by taking its time puts more pressure of the US as we see even 5% interest rates will crush the savings of Americans.
National savings in Russia averaged 15.4% of GDP in the decade to 2022, below the average of 32.5% of GDP for Eastern Europe. National savings in Russia was 18.9% of GDP in 2022. For more National savings information, visit our dedicated page.
United States National savings accounted for 123.0 % of the country’s Nominal GDP in Sep 2023, compared with the ratio of 121.6 % in the previous quarter.
So when you use the asset side of the balance sheet what you are saying doesn’t make any sense. Why the propaganda you are using always uses the liability side of the balance sheet to instill fear.
The budget deficit is the surplus of the non government sector. The national debt is just that surplus that has been moved into US treasuries.
The Bank of England is owned and directed by HM Treasury. How can you bail out yourself?
Government borrowing happens entirely automatically as a function of the way double entry bookkeeping works, entirely without cost.Then for some reason every day we refinance that borrowing at a higher interest rate.
Cui Bono?
In reality there is no government borrowing, just National Savings. Consolidate everything to National savings and investments ( NS&I( and suddenly we’ll find that there is no debt, just Banks, Pension Funds and individuals with sizeable ‘in credit’ deposits.
It’s determined entirely by how much people decide to save rather than spend – since those are the only two choices everybody has. Outside major crises, it will always be about 90% of whatever government spends because that’s the saving propensity of the UK population.
The UK has no national debt, only National Savings, because the ‘debt’ is denominated in our currency – Sterling. Government borrowing isn’t begging, it’s a balancing item in the government accounts.
There is no national debt, only national savings. That is, after all, what a Gilt is. A gilt edged saving certificate.
And like all savings it disappears when the person owing it stops saving and starts spending. Servicing such spending is, of course, how other people throughout the UK economy earn an income.
Stop and think. Ask if you are being lied to by your TV and politicians.
Paying out interest is therefore a political choice – in this case the adoption of the “full funding rule”. That can be scrapped, at which point the other mechanism will kick in – as described every year in the Debt Management Office Annual Review (2021-22, p32).
Monetarist policies are funded by an increase in mortgage rates. They intend to swap the Inflation Tax for the Monetarist Mortgage Tax – poor people pay over more interest that is then given to rich people for safe keeping, as interest on their deposits. That is supposed to reduce aggregate demand.
Eliminating further government debt interest payments by simply stopping issuing Gilts will remove the oversupply of Gilts in the market at present (which is what is causing prices to fall and yields to go up) and reduce the income ‘people with money’ get from them. That then reduces the size of the Mortgage Tax required to stop inflation.
A lot of people think de- dollarisation will hurt America because they have been fooled to believe other countries fund it.
Actually a lot of Americans are overjoyed because it will get rid of the $ zombies. Because a lot of US treasuries held are by foreigners. Other countries who don’t know what to do with their surplus $’s So just park them in Treasuries.
Watch this …. Using both sides of the balance sheet the assets and the liabilities.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WS9nP-BKa3M&pp=ygUlc3RlcGhhbmllIGtlbHRvbiBwcmVzaWRlbnRpYWwgbGVjdHVyZQ%3D%3D
Of course this is what they are worried about in BRICS. Who is going to hold the Surpluses of currencies due to trade and how are they going to organise it.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 15 2023 9:37 utc | 150

And as soon as somebody decides not to save, but to spend that generates *additional* taxation, causes somebody else to earn an income – more taxation – and then spend – more taxation – and so on. Sum up that geometric series and you’ll find that it matches the ‘debt’ precisely, for any positive tax rate.
If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent.
Why taxes always each and every time match the spending injection ” eventually “.
The result is lots of extra sales and income for people down the spending chain they wouldn’t otherwise have received.
It’s a straightforward geometric progression. The spending created the currency the taxes shredded the currency.
There are very few reason to raise taxes if there is significant unemployment. In fact if there is unemployment then by definition we are overtaxed for the size of government we have and we should be looking at cutting taxes, not raising them.
You raise taxes on sectors of the economy that are hoarding both skills and real resources that the government needs to provision itself.
You raise taxes if the economy is running red hot at full employment and there are inflationary pressures. Putin will have to do that soon.
You raise taxes on the rich to stop them interfering in politics and buying elections.
You raise or cut taxes to stop bads and promote goods. Like taxing polluters and giving tax cuts to benefit the environment.
It’s NEVER about funding the government unless you are in the EU.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 15 2023 10:06 utc | 152