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December 15, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-303

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

The Zelenski regime will surely acclaim this major achievement in Ukrainization.

The currently fourth most popular story on Strana (machine translation):

For the first time in Ukraine, local porn has become more popular than Russian porn at the end of the year-Pornhub statistics

Ukrainian porn in Ukraine has become more popular than Russian porn for the first time.

This is stated in the final statistics of Pornhub for 2023.

The site named the main trends of the world and separately by country, the most popular queries and pageviews statistics. Ukraine this year in the list of the top twenty views took the 14th place, rising by one line compared to last year.

In Ukraine, the categories "MILF", "hentai", "anime", "lesbian" and "anal" were among the top five queries. The query "Ukrainian porn" was in seventh place, and "Russian homemade" – in ninth place. Interestingly, in 2022, the query "Ukrainian porn" did not make it to the top at all.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Comments

Od3ssa?

Posted by: 5jumpchump | Dec 15 2023 14:56 utc | 1

Odessa…russian city since days of Catherine Great…one way or other it will be Russian city again !!!Go Vlad Go !!!!!

Posted by: sejmon | Dec 15 2023 15:04 utc | 2

How do you mean stick to the topic ? Do you want us to discuss the comparative merits of watching Ukrainian vs Russian boobs ? Common, b, I didn’t you were into this…

Posted by: Shahmaran | Dec 15 2023 15:09 utc | 3

Katherine. The German?
To the topic. Isn’t it time to stop the bus and let Ukraine Jack, off?

Posted by: kupkee | Dec 15 2023 15:11 utc | 4

This should be interesting…
Please stay on top ic.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 15 2023 15:12 utc | 5

There is another great one – https://turan.az/en/politics/in-transcarpathia-a-local-deputy-threw-grenades-at-a-village-council-meeting
I like how casual the guy throws those grenades. 0 fu**s given. Hope they get in EU soon.

Posted by: JamesBond | Dec 15 2023 15:14 utc | 6

At the airfield in Starokonstantinov, “Daggers” hit the Patriot air defense system and, possibly, the F-16.
Sensational details of a missile attack by the Russian Aerospace Forces on the main NATO airbase in Ukraine have emerged
It became known that the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a massive strike with hypersonic X-47 “Dagger” on military facilities of the ukrovermakht, including the AFU airport located in Starokonstantyniv (Khmelnitsky region). By the way, it is rightly called the most important NATO air base in Ukraine.
This news gave the expert community plenty of food for thought. Monitoring channels reported that on December 14, in addition to Kiev, the main attack was carried out by “Daggers” on the military facilities of Nenka. Towards nightfall, the first details emerged.
Sources close to the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces said that at 16:45, three high-speed air targets were flying in the direction of Starokonstantyniv, Khmelnitsky region, and within 2 minutes powerful explosions were heard there. Almost immediately — more precisely, at 16:50-two hits were recorded in the Zhytomyr region. “This is an X-47,” said the Militarist, which is blocked in the Russian Federation.
In addition, the top five worked “Geraniums”. They “bloomed” in Voznesensk of the Mykolaiv region and Snigirevka of the Kherson region. It is reported that these aircraft shells hit the 47th arsenal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and, again, the Starokonstantinov airbase, as well as targets in Nikolaev and the vicinity of Kremenchuk.
From the point of view of military analysts, both ours and the enemy, the strike on Starokonstantinov is associated with one hundred percent information about the appearance of something very important at the airbase, which “it is not a pity to hit with an expensive “Dagger”. In particular, according to “Two Majors”, ” the Geran UAVs hit the enemy’s rear every night, explosions were heard in the Khmelnitsky, Kharkiv and Poltava regions. In addition, yesterday it was reported that the Patriot air defense system delivered from Germany was destroyed near Zhytomyr by a hypersonic Dagger.”
ukroSMI complained about the “extremely dangerous prolonged Dagger attack”. So, the public Defense Express (blocked in the Russian Federation) notified shchirykh gromadyan that “on December 14, the Russian army used Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles fired from a MiG-31K aircraft to strike Ukraine — this is the first time in more than four months that [the Russians] used these missiles for their own purposes. The last Kinzhalov launches were recorded by the AFU Air Forces on August 11.”
Serhiy Zgurets personally called the press service of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to clarify that “X-47s arrived”, and at the Starokonstantynov airbase. On the other end of the line, Colonel Yuri Ignat, a talker for independent anti-aircraft gunners and pilots, said that he would not comment on the information about the consequences of an enemy attack. “Let the enemy draw their own conclusions, we will not feed them information about where they aimed and where they hit,” he said.
Aha, so it flew to the right place, the Ukrainian “cart” (Telegram channels) reacted. The fact that Ignat habitually lied about the downing of one “Dagger” was not noticed even by the Maidan public.
According to Defense Express, ” it was actually a complex attack, when the enemy several times a day lifted into the air their carriers of Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles, MiG-31K aircraft, and, judging by reports from the official account of the AFU Air Forces, carried out both real and probably fake targets.” (false launches), as well as during some sorties, no launches were observed.”
It all started with the fact that the first alarm in connection with the MiG-31K take-offs was announced at 11:07, and at 12:42 the threat was canceled, since there were no missile launches. At 14: 09 on the account of the Military Forces of Ukraine for the second time warned about the takeoff of the MiG-31K and, accordingly, the missile danger.
Then it is alleged that rockets were launched, possibly deceptions, in the area of Starokonstantinov, as well as from the Kursk region in the direction of Sumy.
In total, there were four take-offs of MiG-31K fighters, which overloaded the Bandera air defense system. In any case, in the information coming from Ignat, there is a lack of logic and confusion with the chronicle. He started with two alleged X-47 interceptions, and then got to 15.
Another thing is interesting: the Dagger strikes followed almost immediately after the announcement by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz about the transfer of the Patriot air defense system battery to the independent army. That is, 8 PU and 60 missiles. Svobodnaya Pressa has already written about this. According to the first information, the American “Wunderwaffe” was supposed to be delivered to Kiev, but, apparently, the Yankees decided to place them in the area of the Starokonstantinov air base.
On American military forums, they write that only Daggers can handle Patriots, saying that if there were intelligence about other equipment, the Russians would use Iskanders. The fact is that a variety of sources in Nenka pointedly hinted that here, at the rear Khmelnitsky airfield, F-16 “Battle Falcon” litaks were supposed to be based, and the best NATO air defense was installed to cover them.
Even before the arrival of the X-47, Defense Minister Umerov gave an interview in which he said: “The plane is not a vehicle, everything should work in a complex: airfields, infrastructure, shelters for aircraft, ground specialists, personnel, equipment.” Like, that’s why, in fact, the delay in the delivery of American litakov was caused. According to him, now this problem has been solved — “in the short term, the Russians will not be able to beat the controlled Fabs with impunity” on zahisniki Nezalezhnosti.
Again, Ignat, a talker of the Ukrainian Military Forces, was highlighted, who boasted that the “Battle Falcons” received by Ukraine are equipped with missiles that can hit targets at a distance of 160 km. In total, according to Defense Express, 5 American vehicles were delivered from Poland to the Khmelnitsky region. So, “we are waiting for good news”. He separately explained that Nezalezhnaya “created a structure to ensure the continuous integration process of the F-16.”
It seems that the appearance of super-duper star-spangled fighters in the sky of Nenka has been postponed to a later date. Anyway, the Yankees don’t leave a yellow-blakey suitcase without a handle. Therefore, the stuffing about the alleged curtailment of American military assistance should be treated as information gypsies.
svpressa

Posted by: rpst | Dec 15 2023 15:16 utc | 7

No Furry or Brony pron? Inkan will be disappointed.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 15 2023 15:22 utc | 8

I have a bad feeling about this thread. Someone’s gonna end up having to beat off the trolls.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 15 2023 15:25 utc | 9

Our NY Senator Chuck Schumer is virtue signaling…pretending to care about Ukraine. Nice how he waited until the House had gone home for the holidays to do this, and they have (another) government shutdown coming in January when they return. Now he can blame the House Repubs for not wanting to help the Nazis
Senate eyes vote on Ukraine aid and border security as House adjourns – live

Posted by: Peter b | Dec 15 2023 15:44 utc | 10

Stick to the topic?
Um….all the silicone pumped lips put me right off Ukrainian women, unfortunately.
OK, does anyone have any actual information on what caused this:
https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1735627811237269950?t=5p0iEg4dZ4g_-y30mxaqOQ&s=19
From what I read he was a member of Elensky’s party who, being less of a hypocrite than his boss, went to serve at the front, returned disabled, received no help from the authorities, and blew up this meeting in consequence.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 15 2023 15:50 utc | 11

@Tom Q 9:
OK, that made me laugh aloud.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 15 2023 15:51 utc | 12

Can anyone provide a realistic estimate of number of Ukrainian soldiers killed so far?
Recently several Western sources are claiming 315,000 dead + injured Russian soldiers, and less than 200,000 Ukrainian dead + injured, but I seriously doubt that Russian casualties outnumber Ukrainian. I’m guessing total Ukrainian casualties should be approaching a million, no?

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Dec 15 2023 15:54 utc | 13

@6
@11
……bit too casual, no? Seemed like some type of stun grenade, not a combat grenade, two or three of those, no one on that room lives.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 15 2023 15:58 utc | 14

rest @1516
Thanks for the info. Can one imagine the perpetual ongoing nervousness of the Ukie air-defense personnel, to say nothing of their H.Q. General Staff types. At present, the desperate attempts to hold off the Russian flood is reminiscent of when the little Dutch boy stuck his finger in the dyke. She beat the shit outta him.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 15 2023 16:06 utc | 15

safe passage” and “humanitarian corridors” UPDATE
Dec 14, 2023, Readout of National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan’s Meetings with Israeli Officials:

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his War Cabinet, Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant, Israeli National Security Advisor Tzachi Hanegbi, and member of the War Cabinet Benny Gantz today in Tel Aviv, Israel to discuss the ongoing conflict in Gaza and our shared objective of defeating Hamas, while minimizing harm to civilians and ensuring the increased and sustained flow of humanitarian assistance into Gaza.
Mr. Sullivan was briefed in detail on the State of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, including its objectives, phasing, and setting conditions for shifts over time from high intensity clearing operations to lower intensity surgical operations against Hamas remnants. Mr. Sullivan confirmed U.S. support for Israel’s right to defend itself and its citizens from Hamas, which has vowed to carry out the atrocities of October 7 over and over again. He welcomed increased coordination with the UN, Egypt, and other partners on the delivery and distribution of humanitarian assistance and stressed the importance of expanding and sustaining the flow of assistance into Gaza.
During the meetings, Mr. Sullivan described U.S. efforts in coordination with allies and partners to deter any attempt to expand the conflict regionally, including in the Red Sea, and expressed President Biden’s commitment to restoring calm along the Blue Line through a combination of deterrence and diplomacy.

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 15 2023 16:08 utc | 16

Machine translated:

The Gallup Research Institute published data on the results of December 14.
It turned out that about 75% of Ukrainians who have an Internet connection watched a direct line with Vladimir Putin using a VPN.

https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/124214

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2023 16:16 utc | 17

… a realistic estimate of number of Ukrainian soldiers killed so far?
@ Mark Mosby | Dec 15 2023 15:54 utc | 13

My guess, based upon nothingeverything in particular:
Unrecoverable losses:
. Russian : 60k – 90k
. Ukrainian : 350k – 600k
Tea Leaves.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2023 16:23 utc | 18

I have a bad feeling about this thread. Someone’s gonna end up having to beat off the trolls.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 15 2023 15:25 utc | 9
Honestly, Tom, I think they’ll do fine all by themselves. Especially if they find the “Sarah Ashton-Cirillo does the 47th” sextape. Badump, bump!
Thanks ladies and germs. I’m here every morning.
Happy Friday to good folk of the bar!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 15 2023 16:25 utc | 19

Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov was interviewed by the Editor-in-Chief of International Affairs magazine Alexander Oganesyan with the following being the initial Q&A:

Question: Sergei Alekseevich, today there is no shortage of talk about the need for a “new Western strategy for Ukraine.” The voices of a number of politicians and analysts in the United States are becoming more and more decisive, calling for Kiev to be persuaded to strategic realism and even to sit it down at the negotiating table. But the question arises: how realistic is what the unexpectedly enlightened “peacekeepers” are calling for?
Ryabkov: I am not very inclined to be encouraged by such signals, not because I am subject to historical pessimism, but simply because we have observed certain vibrations before, at least among US political analysts, regarding whether the “collective West” and its wards in Kiev are moving in the right direction. But this did not lead to any changes in the official line of Washington and the capitals it led. Most likely, this time more time will be needed so that the current deviations from the mainstream can be taken more seriously and substantively analyzed in relation to the situation. But the main thing is not even this, but the fact that changing the current, extremely hostile course of the United States and its satellites towards Russia requires not political science “get-togethers” or the publication of alternative views in the media, but a deep awareness by policy-making circles in “Greater Washington” and, of course, in the Biden administration, of the simple fact that the anti-Russian line, including in its Ukrainian interpretation, is doomed to fail. And that a huge strategic mistake was made from the very beginning, when they set a course for defeating Russia, for waging a hybrid war “to the last Ukrainian,” as it is now customary to say in the West. And the recognition of this fact, which is initially obvious to us, can be the starting point for a real correction of their course.
And palliatives, some half-measures, which some venerable, authoritative political scientists and experts on Eurasian affairs in Washington and Europe are talking about, from our point of view, will not lead to stabilisation of the situation. On the contrary, they will become the forerunner of a new, possibly even more acute crisis, because Kiev, of course, will turn such schemes in its favor and, with massive support from the West, will regroup, will again commit provocations and crimes, and will again begin to pose threats to the security of our country. This cannot be allowed.

The rest of this important interview will be posted to my substack later today.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 15 2023 16:27 utc | 20

No Furry or Brony pron? Inkan will be disappointed.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 15 2023 15:22 utc | 8
I think inki is more of a fem-dom kind of guy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 15 2023 16:28 utc | 21

An article from May 2022

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/uk-wants-to-include-ukraine-in-european-commonwealth-report/2599081
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is trying to create a new bloc of European nations that would bring together Ukraine, much of Eastern Europe, and Turkiye at a later stage, according to Italian media on Friday.
The daily Corriere della Sera called the idea a “European Commonwealth” and described it as “a new system of political, economic and military alliances – alternative to the European Union.”
The countries in the new bloc would be united by their “diffidence towards Brussels” and criticism of Germany’s excessively timid response to the Russian aggression in Ukraine, the report suggested.
Johnson first floated the idea to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when he traveled to the Ukrainian capital on April 9, and his government has since then lobbied Kyiv hard over the proposal, it noted.
Britain would be the leader of the new eurosceptic and anti-Russian alliance, which would extend to Ukraine, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, as well as Turkiye “potentially, at a later stage,” it also said.
Corriere’s report was written by one of its correspondents at the World Economic Forum in Davos, based on anonymous sources who are “aware of the talks” and are taking part in the high-level meeting in Switzerland.

UK did form of coalition of the killing from eastern European nations that included Slovakia though I assume that has changed with the elections there. I haven’t been able to dig up the security agreement with a number of east European coalition of the killing Russia haters but that, I think is the expanded war that is coming now that Ukraine has been tossed aside like a used condom.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 16:32 utc | 22

Ukraine and enlargement: A “major achievement in Ukrainization” is a major achievement in “Europeanization”
in re: Ukraine’s cannibis and porn export industries
Council and Parliament strike deal on new rules to safeguard media freedom, media pluralism, and editorial independence in the EU

The Council has reached a provisional agreement with the European Parliament on a new law to safeguard media freedom, media pluralism and editorial independence in the EU. The European media freedom act (EMFA) will establish a common framework for media services in the EU’s internal market and introduce measures aimed at protecting journalists and media providers from political interference, while also making it easier for them to operate across the EU’s internal borders. The new rules will guarantee the right of citizens to access free and plural information and define the responsibility of member states to provide the appropriate conditions and framework to protect it.
Democracy cannot exist without media freedom, independence and plurality. Today’s agreement confirms the EU’s position as a world leader in protecting journalists, guaranteeing the independence of media providers, and ensuring that citizens have access to a wide and diverse range of reliable news sources.
—Ernest Urtasun i Domènech, Spanish Minister for Culture
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 15 2023 16:36 utc | 23

@ sln2002 | Dec 15 2023 16:36 utc | 23

The value in porn and drugs is driven by interdiction, which lies wholly outside the area of supply.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2023 16:41 utc | 24

Actually, come to think of it, now Ukraine is morphing into a country with less and less able bodied guys, and more and more single women… Making it to #1 in the world wide pron industry sounds like a business opportunity they should not miss.

Posted by: Shahmaran | Dec 15 2023 16:44 utc | 25

Ukraine grenade incident: Councillor tosses explosives into meeting
In one of the villages in the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine, one of the village council deputies threw three hand grenades at his colleagues. (…) a number of sources report that the deputy who blew up his colleagues served in the 128th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, from where he was discharged for disability due to his injury. After returning to his native Transcarpathian village, the militant was immediately elected to the local council from the ruling Servant of the People party in Ukraine. According to eyewitnesses, the deputy, apparently armed with grenades brought from the front, came to a meeting of the village council, at which the locality’s budget for the next year was approved. The man immediately entered into a heated discussion with his colleagues, demanding that the deputies first report to him for the budget expenses of the outgoing year, and also provide him with social assistance. (…)
“>https://en.topwar.ru/232380-na-zakarpate-vo-vremja-sessii-selsoveta-deputat-brosil-v-kolleg-tri-granaty.html

Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 15 2023 16:46 utc | 26

karlof1 | Dec 15 2023 16:27 utc | 20
In Macgregors most recent appearance on the judges show, he said that Washington is very much a planet, something along the lines of being isolated from everything outside Washington. Very much along the lines of what Ryabkov is saying. Possibly that show or that section of it may be a useful addition to your substack article.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 16:46 utc | 27

Ukraine Weekly Update 15th December: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-732

Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Dec 15 2023 16:47 utc | 28

Re b’s bit to kick off the thread. About a year back, I put in Odessa as a search term to see what came up and get an idea of the culture there. Search results on youtube? a long list of pretty Odessa women looking for a foreign husband. Sort of like going to an online livestock market where there is video of the livestock you are interested in bidding on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 16:54 utc | 29

Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 16:46 utc | 27–
Thanks for your reply and tip. Escobar’s report on the Astana Club meeting begs to have more info supplied but provides a good hint at the frozen nature of the West’s “thinking.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 15 2023 16:56 utc | 30

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/putins-q-and-a-and-some-revealing
“Putin’s Q&A and Some Revealing Article Roundups on AFU’s Deterioration
Putin held his annual Q&A today, where he made some interesting new statements which I’ll first go over.
One of the most notable, to me, was the reiteration of the stated objectives of the SMO. For a long time now Ukrainian sources claimed that Russia was slowly walking back or down-scaling the SMO’s goals as a face-saving measure in light of their putative ‘inability to advance.’
Putin refuted this narrative once and for all, by adamantly restating the goals.
Not only that, but he again strongly implied that Russia will retake Odessa, calling it a purely Russian city which was founded by Catherine the Great.”

Posted by: simplicius post | Dec 15 2023 17:16 utc | 31

karlof1 | Dec 15 2023 16:56 utc | 30
A few thoughts come to mind reading that article you linked. Firsts is Kazakhstan itself. It leadership has to walk a razors edge to hold it together. It is part of the Organization of Turkic Nations led by Turkey. Tatars from Crimea were deported there after WWII by Stalin and unlike the Chechen’s, did not return after Stalin died yet we here nothing of them. A lot of Muslims throughout the stans joined ISIS and orther CIA “moderate rebels/freedom fighters”. Young Turkic peoples throughout Russia have proved very susceptible to Ukie/UK psyops via telegram.
BRICS currency. Hindutva India the huge fly in the ointment there. On the one side Hindutva India is gearing up to take part in the Anglo war on China, on the other side, Russia is feeding India plenty of carrots. Only time will tell if the carrots are more appealing than war on China.
No answers to anything, just a few is the things I look at that come to mind in reading that article.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 17:30 utc | 32

@Apollyon | Dec 15 2023 16:46
There’s a pretty gruesome video of the whole thing on Colonel Cassad’s blog

Posted by: zele2u | Dec 15 2023 17:31 utc | 33

Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2023 16:32 utc | 22
Wasn’t establishing a European “commonwealth” Hitler’s ultimate ambition? Significantly, the proposed members of such a block are noteworthy for their collaboration with the German Nazi regime.
The USSR destroyed their Nazi opponents, while the US/UK made peace with them; oh, the humanity.

Posted by: robjira | Dec 15 2023 18:08 utc | 34

I suggest the rise in Ukraininan porn is due to the fact they are getting Fu$%^& everywhere else, so why not here?

Posted by: madmarc | Dec 15 2023 18:11 utc | 35

Only slighly connected to Ukraine, but still …
They asked the Germans about the work of their government:
68% bad work
27% good work

Posted by: schkid | Dec 15 2023 18:12 utc | 36

simplicius post@31
I recommend that others read your post which is very useful.
It strikes me that b might be wrong in thinking that Ukraine’s dire predicament means that an end to the war is in sight. The war against Russia is a project dating back at least a century and, in some senses, back to the days before the Teutonic Knights were taking the lead. It is a central part of modern imperialism- the other side of the maritime empire founded on the vast wealth of America which fell into Europe’s hands, almost by accident, largely by disease, five hundred years ago. Russia and Central Asia are the ‘other America’ equally filled with loot but sharing Eurasia’s immunities to disease, which makes them harder nuts to crack.
There is a tendency to mistake the neo-cons for the originators of the empire’s wars whereas they are nothing more than the current faction chosen to direct them. The war against Russia which melded with the war against ‘democracy as a threat to property’ long pre-dated the invention of the neo-cons who were in fact one of the products of the war.
It may well be that Ukraine will see the discrediting of the neo-con faction, which is also threatened by its closeness to Israel and its failing strategy in Gaza. Two major defeats to the Empire in a short period are very likely to lead to changes in both strategy and personnel in Washington. It is likely that there will be a reversion to the idea that the muslim world is not automatically in the imperial pocket but that its leaders and populations require a degree of respect that the neo-cons, racist zionists to the bone, are incapable of doing any more than feigning.
But the war will go on, or resume, even if the Ukrainian front collapses.
In favt a Ukrainian collapse would provide the western warmongers with a marvellous opportunity to disinter the reasoning behind NATO in the first place: the necessity to mobilise all Europe’s resources in order to deter the ‘aggressive’ Russian military. We have already heard the familiar sounds of such talk.
In strategic terms a Russian victory, however complete is still going to leave Moscow in a much weaker condition given the accession of the Finns and Swedes to the alliance. Not to mention the developments in the Caucasus and the maturing of the Hindutva regime in India into the full blown anti Chinese and anti-communist posturing which was always latent in its fascism .
We are really back to the early days of the Soviet Union when the salvation of the revolution depended- and it undoubtedly did- on the support of the popular- working class socialist- forces in European politics.
Now the situation is one in which Europeans are being required to make sacrifices, of the most basic kind, jobs, living standards, social programmes, in order to sustain the imperial crusades imposed by the USA. Almost all of Europe’s governments and most of their Opposition parties are committed to doing what Washington orders- which includes both immiserating the increasing number of poor people in their homes and nourishing vicious ethnic conflicts tearing society apart- much to the satisfaction of demagogues on the right.
As to the opposition from the right- as Meloni’s revival of fascism has shown this is likely to dissolve as soon as offices open up. Does anyone doubt that AfD will pan out the same way?
To sum up- I am afraid that the next act in Ukraine is escalatory, with more terrorist attacks deep in Russian territory, aimed at upsetting support for the government, and large numbers of troops, perhaps sheep dipped, perhaps mercenaries, perhaps NATO forces. It only takes a couple of governments to decide that their domestic electoral positions would be improved by throwing themselves behind Kiev to intitiate a process in which a few tens of thousands of trained and well armed men are thrown into the battle.
And then there is the matter of Turkey which is clearly open for bids. And only NATO can offer it a return of old Ottoman territories, such as Crimea and the Caucasus, as protectorates, allies etc.
There is a reason for Russia’s caution and it is not cowardice but an understanding that the enemy has been ruling the globe since the C16th. Toppling it will be a big job.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 15 2023 18:12 utc | 37

@ bevin | Dec 15 2023 18:12 utc | 37
i agree with your general overview here bevin.. i can’t see this ending any time soon, as it has been going on for a lot longer then feb 24, 2022… but it is possible a clash of greater significance with enter which will demand a resolution… for that – i have no idea if or when.. all of this seems connected to the greater fragility of the worlds financial system too.. that isn’t lessening here either, but in fact, it is increasing in terms of instability… so, it is hard to know how this works out or when..
it is a shame that more people in the scandinavian countries can’t see the duplicity of their own gov’ts, especially with regard to the nordstream terrorism.. maybe they do, but it is the oligarchs that continue to tow the line.. i am not sure it matters much that sweden and finland are in nato at this point.. regarding the other countries affairs – india or turkey, it is of course complicated..
another open question is how long it takes for the propaganda to cease to be effective… in the west it does appear to work fine, but i sense people are getting more and more tired of supporting these endless wars and build up to wars.. perhaps the politicians beholden to the usa agenda aren’t tired, but i am certainly tired of them!!

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2023 18:27 utc | 38

Has the war effected the sex tourism to Ukraine?
I worked with a 50ish man in USA who had married an internet arranged Russian woman. She was more productive and worked hard than him.
She hated Yeltsin selling out and corruption

Posted by: paddy | Dec 15 2023 18:31 utc | 39

A semi-normal non-mutant male human living in Ukraine should have no need of porn, Ukrainian or otherwise, as there should be no shortage of single women to choose from.
Like fish in a barrel.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 15 2023 18:32 utc | 41

“Stick to the topic?
Um….all the silicone pumped lips put me right off Ukrainian women, unfortunately.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 15 2023 15:50 utc | 11”
Years ago, a girlfriend in Kiev asked me if I wanted her to do the silicone lips thing.
Um, if you really want my opinion, hell no.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 15 2023 18:35 utc | 42

And now the new propaganda of the western medias is that Russia will not stop at the Ukrainian border.
Congratulations to them! For they are now acknowledging the future defeat of the ukronazis, while they were sure of the defeat of Russia until quite recently.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 18:41 utc | 43

Posted by: Psycho | Dec 15 2023 18:31 utc | 40
No one with a white flag… Dead for the glory of Ukrainazistan and Bandera.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 18:52 utc | 44

Feral Finster 42: Several years ago, a Ukrainian Girlfriend annoyed me so much that I developed polyuria, something that only front-line soldiers get. I sincerely hope that she will successfully fight in the trenches against the Russians today, with a shovel in her hands.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 18:57 utc | 45

Wasn’t establishing a European “commonwealth” Hitler’s ultimate ambition? Significantly, the proposed members of such a block are noteworthy for their collaboration with the German Nazi regime.
Posted by: robjira | Dec 15 2023 18:08 utc | 34

The unity of the Europeean countries was the project of Nietzsche with his “Great Policy”. Hitler read Nietzsche and offered to Mussolini when this latter was in prison the books of Nietzsche. Nietzsche is the first European nationalist with the purpose to confront Russia.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 18:58 utc | 46

Naive 43: They weren’t successful with the little war they provoked, so now things are getting bigger. Russia must be destroyed, they don’t know anything else – even if Europe collapses in the process.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:03 utc | 47

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 18:57 utc | 45
Don’t you feel any responsibility for choosing her?

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 19:03 utc | 48

Posted by: bevin | Dec 15 2023 18:12 utc | 3
thank you for your amazing post.
I think EU citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves for the holy aim of defeating and plundering Russia. The kevel of obedience of ordinary people in EU is amazing.

Posted by: zorge | Dec 15 2023 19:15 utc | 49

Naive 48: Yes, Naive, I’m really responsible for having chosen young and beautifull over old and ugly – my fault, God may pardon me.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:17 utc | 50

zorge 49: “I think EU citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves for the holy aim of defeating and plundering Russia.” – EU citizens are so comprehensively lied to by their liberal media and their politicians that they have no chance of correctly assessing their future.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:26 utc | 51

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:17 utc | 50
I know several men who fell for that trap. Typical western values, aren’t they?
Personally I prefer someone clever and honest.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 19:31 utc | 52

Reply to #Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:26 utc | 51
Oliver, I’m in Europe and my work put me in contact with people from many walks of life. Almost every person I dare speak about the war says this war is the greatest occasion we will have this century to destroy Russia and get possession of its land, food, and resources so Europe will preserve its way of life and get richer.

Posted by: mauro | Dec 15 2023 19:35 utc | 53

Posted by: mauro | Dec 15 2023 19:35 utc | 53
LOL.
And how do they propose to destroy Russia?
They are cowards and they speak about what they don’t know. Thanks anyway for the good laugh.
El pueblo unido jamás será vencido.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 19:45 utc | 54

reply to Naive | Dec 15 2023 19:45 utc | 54
I’m happy to have amused you ( a good laugh work miracles ) but when I listen to those people I feel frightened.
Madness is ubiquitous here.
BTW at this moment, I’m listening to Inti Illimani. Their rendition of El Pueblo is the best I know.

Posted by: mauro | Dec 15 2023 19:53 utc | 55

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 19:45 utc | 54
They dont think that far. All they talk about is simply their hatred towards anything russian.
My german wife made “russischer zupfkuchen“ for one of our local spring festivities here last year, and oh boy were some special snowflakes offended by it, that they went and threw all cakes to the ground while shouting slava orkraine.
Its nothing but hatred at this point. The eu is in full revanchist mode, they want, and at this point, have to destroy russia. Wheter that is via regime change to get all that wealth on the chep, aka yeltsin 2.0, or via other means. Some biolabs and pathogens developed by usa are probably on the table, as demonstrated with covid. And if all else fails, they take us to war, as the saying goes.
Dont forget, they ran their mouths with all the propaganda bullshittery since 2014, the loss of face, beaten by a gas station, with no socks, equipped with shovels only (as missiles ran out three times over), and throwing washingmachine chips at patriot complexes, is something those narcissists cannot allow.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 15 2023 19:57 utc | 56

I should think that if we were to read Friedrich Nietzsche’s writings very carefully, we might find that Nietzsche would see through current pan-European institutions like the EU and future moves like Poland’s Intermarium project and the imperialist agendas behind them. Too much of his writing, unfortunately, is taken out of context and interpreted without reference to his other work. Nietzsche was very clear on people having to think through and examine their beliefs and motivations critically, and such rigour would be equally applied to and expected of people aspiring to “cosmopolitan” values and ideals, as to everyone else.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 15 2023 20:02 utc | 57

Still, no new Ukraine flags are going up here in the UK, and the few still flying are looking pretty sad after a year of UK weather.
The good news (though sad for UK/EU citizens) is that as energy prices stay high and European governments go down the “fossil fuel bad” path, industrial production, including weapons and aircraft, is going to take a hit. Already I believe the UK no longer makes either Challenger tanks or Storm Shadow missiles.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 15 2023 20:17 utc | 58

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 15 2023 20:02 utc | 57
If you would read Nietzsche you would understand that he was 100% pro-imperialist. He praised the conquerors unambiguously: Alcibiad, Alexander, Jules Cesar, Cesar Borgia, Napoleon. He thought that war was necessary to keep the society healthy. And he proposed to get rid of ill and useless people.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 20:23 utc | 59

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 15 2023 19:57 utc | 56
Yes, pure hatred. I see it in many comments following for instance the reports of yesterday questions and anwsers by Putin.
To my surprise, in one series of such comments the majority of commenters were favourable to Russia. While the minority was mostly relying the most common lies of the anti-russian propaganda (such as the palace on the Black Sea coast).
Among friends, or they support Russia and praise Putin, or they fell for the western propaganda, but could be convinced of the lies with a good demonstration. So far only one shut the phone down, because he is a supporter of Makhno and thus all Russians are bad.
Among the privileges which could be lost by the people of the western countries, there is the following one: to go to Thailand to spend the three winter months to avoid cold (and I guess loneliness)…
The anti-russian propaganda began well before 2014, when it was understood that Putin was not following the western “rules”. He was the first target, then the Russian people altogether.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 20:40 utc | 60

@ JamesBond | Dec 15 2023 15:14 utc | 6
What the hell did i just see?
Unreal!

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Dec 15 2023 20:53 utc | 61

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 19:17 utc | 50
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Quite petty and small stuff for you to wish ill on someone you used to date.
It wasn’t choosing someone young and beautiful where you messed up. It’s not selecting for character. Character in everything is all that matters. Better to be with a good older woman than a toxic young hottie.
Your woman is a reflection of you. If you don’t respect yourself, she won’t respect you. A guy who pees his pants and blames a woman for it isn’t exactly the kind of leader who garners respect and obedience.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2023 21:01 utc | 62

Naive 60: “The anti-russian propaganda began well before 2014, when it was understood that Putin was not following the western “rules”..” – It all began after Putin told the West at the Conference of Security.. in Munich 2007, after seven years of goodwilling cooperation, what their real intentions were.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Dec 15 2023 21:07 utc | 63

first Sullivans words.. then “Bojo the insane” fantasia intention based on UK policy and mass media supported jingoistic russophobia attempt to get re-elected as PM make me want to throw up …..

Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2023 21:15 utc | 64

Oliver, I’m in Europe and my work put me in contact with people from many walks of life. Almost every person I dare speak about the war says this war is the greatest occasion we will have this century to destroy Russia and get possession of its land, food, and resources so Europe will preserve its way of life and get richer.
Posted by: mauro | Dec 15 2023 19:35 utc | 53
true, Many many people in Europe just love this war. They really want to destroy Russia. It is a real European dream. The whole EU educated middle class lives for this war.

Posted by: zorge | Dec 15 2023 21:16 utc | 65

The guy who dropped the grenade at the council meeting was supposedly a disabled veteran from 128th mountain brigade. You know, the unit that has gotten wrecked countless of times, starting from AFU offensive in Kherson, and next in the Zaporozhye offensive.
Apparently they don’t receive benefits for their wounds, perhaps because the state can’t pay. Since the problem is large and growing, you’d expect to see more of this.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2023 21:17 utc | 66

Apparently they don’t receive benefits for their wounds, perhaps because the state can’t pay.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2023 21:17 utc | 66
They could pay, only in this totally corrupt country the money goes to the ukronazis and the banderists and not to people speaking Hungarian or Russian.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 21:27 utc | 67

military facilities of the ukrovermakht,
Posted by: rpst | Dec 15 2023 15:16 utc | 7
Is this a Cyrillic neologism of a German word, transliterated in English?

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2023 21:43 utc | 68

The claims that most Europeans are anti-Russian is nonsense and propaganda that the quislings desperately want to be true.
If your environment is filled to the brim with anti-Russians there is something very wrong with your environment. Try to get away.
Seen any Ukrainian flags lately?
Seen all the recent hubbub about a growing lack of support for, and indifference to, or antipathy towards Ukraine?
· · ·
Nietzsche is maligned. Wrong perhaps (well everyone is, that much ought to be obvious) but certainly maligned.
· · ·
Relationship advice eh? “Be lucky” lol 😀

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 22:21 utc | 69

Seen any Ukrainian flags lately?
Seen all the recent hubbub about a growing lack of support for, and indifference to, or antipathy towards Ukraine?
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 22:21 utc | 69
Hate against Russia is deep in the mind of EU consumers.
The consumer society cannot survive without getting Russian resources cheap.

Posted by: zorge | Dec 15 2023 22:30 utc | 70

aristodemos | Dec 15 2023 16:06 utc | 15
…little Dutch boy stuck his finger in the dyke. She beat the shit outta him

Friend. The topic is Ukrainia pron. EU perversion is OT…..

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2023 22:35 utc | 71

Nietzsche.
Realising that people who don’t think, also exist.
🤯

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2023 22:42 utc | 72

Slava Cukrajina? When the US takes over your country and fucks it. As for “Our sex workers are the best in the world. This is ultra-nationalism at its most insane.

Posted by: mauro | Dec 15 2023 19:35 utc | 53
Mauro are you working at the local lunatic asylum or one of those atlanticist think tanks?

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Dec 15 2023 22:43 utc | 73

military facilities of the ukrovermakht,
Posted by: rpst | Dec 15 2023 15:16 utc | 7
Is this a Cyrillic neologism of a German word, transliterated in English?
Posted by: Passerby | Dec 15 2023 21:43 utc | 68
____
I think rpst meant “Ukrowehrmacht”, using the Third Reich word (spelled as it sounds in English) for “armed forces”.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 22:44 utc | 74

@ Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 22:21 utc | 69
European contempt for Russia long predated the SMO and thus can’t be measured in Ukrainian flags.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 22:46 utc | 75

… a realistic estimate of number of Ukrainian soldiers killed so far?
@ Mark Mosby | Dec 15 2023 15:54 utc | 13

My guess, based upon nothingeverything in particular:
Unrecoverable losses:
. Russian : 60k – 90k
. Ukrainian : 350k – 600k
Tea Leaves.
Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2023 16:23 utc | 18
If you consider unrecoverable losses as KIA + WIA(unfit for further duty)they should now be very close to 1:1 ratio on both sides (maybe the ratio is better for RF but don’t have any elements on that)
Your numbers are way low.
RF Until lately I used the gross excess mortality that I calibrated against the specific point studies of inheritances and excess mortality of RF men under 50.
Until end of June I’d bet on 50.000 KIA + 50.000 WIA (unfit for further duty)
Since then, after discussing usage of these numbers here (and the delay of publishing) The excess mortality numbers basically dropped to zero and I have no way of knowing if there is a gag order now on that information or a major shift in the war and associated casualties. Either way I can’t use them going forward.
AFU end of june I’d bet on 400.000 KIA + 400.000 WIA (unfit for further duty)
From the AFU side it’s even worse, some tangential information only, the SIM cards, the percentage of people with KIA and/or WIA, the amputee numbers and reasonable ratios to KIA.
But from that it looked that it would be very close to 1:8 ratio, but as I mentioned I have a problem from july onward on russian data.
The tangential would not be incompatible with double the numbers I mentioned but then the numbers for the ukraine population would have to be much higher than those often discussed here. The fight is still on, with double the casualties and lower population you’d have to have only children and women in the trenches by now.
Now what do we know about the AFU offensive, we know that they sent in 9 brigades wester trained, 36.000, but even if they had been degraded by 80% that would only ammount to 30.000.
So the big question is the padding ratio with “meat” if their last counter attack was a guide I would say the AFU lost no less than 120.000+120.000 during their offensive. (and I’d accept 15.000+15.000 for RF but they are not in the excess mortality data now, under 10% of that and most by adjustment, the raw mortality is almost nil lately)
But there is a number that is much lower and would depend only on human stupidity, “let’s fake numbers!”, “how boss?” “just multiply by 3”
“Russia had 360,000 ground troops before the war and has suffered 315,000 killed and wounded since February 2022”
At the start of the SMO RF had about 120.000, same logic 105.000 casualties, maybe 52.500 KIA, 52.500 WIA seems right and it would explain the drop, most of the AFU’s counter attack was repelled with little casualties….
So current RF KIA 52k, maybe 60’s, If I try to make it work with the next one
The RF 2 month attack (and the dnieper duck shot). This attack was not with convicts and had a huge artillery and airforce advantage for RF, if the worst month in Bakhkmut cost (with other fronts) 7.000 KIA to the RF (and was not sustained for more than a month at that level) I’d say 30% would be reasonable. That would still be within the range for RF and would add some tens of thousands AFU KIA
So would anyone take 52.000-60.000 (x2) for RF and 500.000-600.000 (x2) for AFU right now?
The only thing I am sure is that when someone wants zelensky out, all it takes is to leak these numbers (the tv numbers glitch might have been foreplay for that)

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 22:47 utc | 76

Nietzsche.
Realising that people who don’t think, also exist.
🤯
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2023 22:42 utc | 72
____
So much for Descartes. 😁

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 22:47 utc | 77

Nietzsche is maligned. Wrong perhaps (well everyone is, that much ought to be obvious) but certainly maligned.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 22:21 utc | 69

Nietzsche was racist, mysogynist, colonialist, anti-democrat, pro-war, etc. It is enough to read “Ecce Homo” to understand that he was megalomaniac. He suffered also from bipolarity, was superstitious, developed anxiety, took drugs and someone who wrote:
“Die Schwachen und Missrathnen sollen zu Grunde gehn: erster Satz unsrer Menschenliebe. Und man soll ihnen noch dazu helfen.”
… only deserves contempt. The will of power = the winner takes all and has all rights. Exactly the mentality of Hitler and of the neocons and of the NAtional-ZIonistS.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 22:54 utc | 78

I think EU citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves for the holy aim of defeating and plundering Russia. The kevel of obedience of ordinary people in EU is amazing.
Posted by: zorge | Dec 15 2023 19:15 utc | 49
Not really, they’re being dispossessed at an alarming rate.
If you just took the useless part of 75% services in the EU you’d have enough agriculture and industry to live much better (and enough exports to pay for anything needed).
But you’d also have much stronger unions (15% at least of income from capital to wages) and more expensive stuff than the cheap imports and refugee services. That amounts to a much smaller margin for appropriation by monopolists and rentiers. Of course you cannot do that without capital controls.
Cheap energy would also help, it is not by chance that french nuclear power is being torpedoed since the last decades and Nordstream was bombed.
We wouldn’t want a declining continent not producing easy gains for the few.

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 22:57 utc | 79

Nietzsche … only deserves contempt.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 22:54 utc | 78
Still misunderstood I see

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 22:59 utc | 80

Nietzsche.
Realising that people who don’t think, also exist.
🤯
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2023 22:42 utc | 72

And realising that people who don’t read, also exist.
Fixed.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:02 utc | 81

Posted by: bevin | Dec 15 2023 18:12 utc | 37
For some reason that took me back to my uni days sitting on floors at parties having earnest debates about how to enact a hopelessly naive agenda, with a certainty come from manoeuvring in a construct that more resembled a moral chessboard than the real world.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 15 2023 23:05 utc | 82

Nietzsche … only deserves contempt.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 22:54 utc | 78
Still misunderstood I see
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 22:59 utc | 80
And realising that people who dont’t understand (provided they read…), also exist.
Fixed again.
It is interesting to see that no argument is proposed by the defenders of Nietzsche.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:09 utc | 83

Naive | Dec 15 2023 22:54 utc | 78
Most people who have opinions about Nietszche have never read him. And most of those who have read him don’t understand him, which his great attraction in a culture in which the more incomprehensible a work is the more it is valued.
What intellectuals unite in detesting are simple ideas clearly expressed and calculated to lead to collective action, which in turn changes the world.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 15 2023 23:12 utc | 84

Could this news be an indicator of increased employment among the growing numbers of war Ukrainian widows?

Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 15 2023 23:14 utc | 85

I’m super-pleased that no one disagrees with my excellent relationship advice 😀

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 23:23 utc | 86

Nietsche, Jenseits von Gut und Böse:
Die Kraft zu wollen, und zwar einen Willen lang zu wollen, ist etwas stärker schon in Deutschland, und im deutschen Norden wiederum stärker als in der deutschen Mitte; erheblich stärker in England, Spanien und Corsika, dort an das Phlegma, hier an harte Schädel gebunden, — um nicht von Italien zu reden, welches zu jung ist, als dass es schon wüsste, was es wollte, und das erst beweisen muss, ob es wollen kann —, aber am allerstärksten und erstaunlichsten in jenem ungeheuren Zwischenreiche, wo Europa gleichsam nach Asien zurückfliesst, in Russland. Da ist die Kraft zu wollen seit langem zurückgelegt und aufgespeichert, da wartet der Wille — ungewiss, ob als Wille der Verneinung oder der Bejahung — in bedrohlicher Weise darauf, ausgelöst zu werden, um den Physikern von heute ihr Leibwort abzuborgen. Es dürften nicht nur indische Kriege und Verwicklungen in Asien dazu nöthig sein, damit Europa von seiner grössten Gefahr entlastet werde, sondern innere Umstürze, die Zersprengung des Reichs in kleine Körper und vor Allem die Einführung des parlamentarischen Blödsinns, hinzugerechnet die Verpflichtung für Jedermann, zum Frühstück seine Zeitung zu lesen. Ich sage dies nicht als Wünschender: mir würde das Entgegengesetzte eher nach dem Herzen sein, — ich meine eine solche Zunahme der Bedrohlichkeit Russlands, dass Europa sich entschliessen müsste, gleichermaassen bedrohlich zu werden, nämlich Einen Willen zu bekommen, durch das Mittel einer neuen über Europa herrschenden Kaste, einen langen furchtbaren eigenen Willen, der sich über Jahrtausende hin Ziele setzen könnte: — damit endlich die langgesponnene Komödie seiner Kleinstaaterei und ebenso seine dynastische wie demokratische Vielwollerei zu einem Abschluss käme. Die Zeit für kleine Politik ist vorbei: schon das nächste Jahrhundert bringt den Kampf um die Erd-Herrschaft, — den Zwang zur grossen Politik.
Emphases mine.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:25 utc | 87

And thank you all (but especially Melaleuca and Lev Davidovich) for making me laugh, really need it nowadays.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 23:26 utc | 88

Descartes. 😁
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 22:47 utc | 77
Seems I may have – in keeping with thread topic – experienced premature interjection.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2023 23:28 utc | 89

And the soul-balm from Malenkov mocking/needling Descartes 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 23:32 utc | 90

This is MoA porn lol 😀

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 23:33 utc | 91

einer neuen über Europa herrschenden Kaste
That cast was built after WW2 and is now effective to support the ukronazis without asking anything to its people.
After Hitler’s policy to destroy Russia failed, the European Union was built with the same objective.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:34 utc | 92

It is interesting to see that no argument is proposed by the defenders of Nietzsche.
Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:09 utc | 83
“He who fights with trolls should look to it that he himself does not become a troll. And when you gaze long into a stupid the stupid also gazes into you.”

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 23:39 utc | 93

Promised earlier: Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov’s interview with Editor-in-Chief of International Affairs magazine Alexander Oganesyan examines relations with the West in general and the Outlaw US Empire specifically.
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/deputy-foreign-minister-sergey-ryabkovs-a8a

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 15 2023 23:40 utc | 94

Relationship advice eh? “Be lucky” lol 😀
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 15 2023 22:21 utc | 69
To be clever is more difficult. LOL 😀

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:41 utc | 95

“He who fights with trolls should look to it that he himself does not become a troll. And when you gaze long into a stupid the stupid also gazes into you.”
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 15 2023 23:39 utc | 93
That sentence looks very much like a troll sentence. And still no argument. Hopefully you can read #87. Thanks.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:44 utc | 96

Relationship advice time?
Turkish proverb:
“Before you love,
Learn to run through snow
Leaving no footprint.”

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 23:45 utc | 97

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 15 2023 23:45 utc | 97
I love that one!

Posted by: Naive | Dec 15 2023 23:51 utc | 98

Always makes me ponder in a world where you can’t even read a news article without needing a paid subscription of go fishing to get some lunch without a paid fee. Why porn is free , when every other fun activity costs money?. My answer is it degrades relationships and serves empire in destroying what they don’t like

Posted by: Hankster | Dec 15 2023 23:52 utc | 99

I can say nothing in comparison.
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2016/04/20/the-h-l-mencken-show/
People are generally stupid. It is easy to rile them up and herd them.
Unfortualty very few really smart people are in control of the Border Collies.

Posted by: steve | Dec 16 2023 0:03 utc | 100