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December 1, 2023
Ukraine Finally Starts To Build Defense Lines

After wasting ten-thousands of men in hopeless battles the Ukrainian comedian has finally acknowledged that his army's performative 'counter-attacks' and hold-to-the-last-man defenses have made no sense.

Politco's Dreamer of the year finally calls for building defensive lines:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called for a faster buildup of major defensive lines amid Kyiv’s stalled counteroffensive and concerns that Russia could attempt to take more territory.

Zelenskiy urged greater speed and efficiency in building defenses in a video statement on Telegram after a meeting with key military and security officials Tuesday evening. He encouraged local communities to pitch in and pledged to make money available for the effort.

“Our country will definitely have enough mines and concrete,” he said. He didn’t provide details on where the fortifications would be built or how extensive they might be.

It took the Russian army several months and lots of money to build its extensive defense lines in the southeast of Ukraine.

Zelenski has neither the time nor the money to build solid lines but he wants many of them (machine translation):

According to Zelensky, he held a meeting on fortification in all major directions – first of all on Avdiivka and Maryinsky, as well as on Kupyansk and on the Kupyansk – Liman line, in Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

In addition, fortifications will be built along the entire border with Russia and Belarus.

"We will work with our partners to strengthen our defensive lines," the president added.

Earlier, Zelensky already spoke about a "special" meeting of the Stavka, where they discussed strengthening the fortification.

Comments Strana (machine translation):

This is quite a landmark statement. It sounds like an announcement of the construction of large-scale defensive lines-similar to the one that Russia has built in the south.

And more broadly, this can be interpreted as a transition to a defensive strategy, which began to be talked about more and more often after the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually stopped, and the Russians themselves switched to large-scale attacks.

But officially, the authorities do not talk about the transition to defense, and the main thesis remains that the APU is preparing to attack, and there is no deadlock (which even the commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny wrote about) at the front.

Zelenski called for private companies to build the new fortifications. In the context of Ukraine that means more corruption – lots of it – as government officials will ask for kick backs for any contract they may sign. Previous attempts of privately build defense lines had ditches that were too shallow and of little utility. Some concrete was poured but in the wrong places and shapes.

There were reasons why Ukraine failed last summer to overcome the Russian defense lines. It lacked the artillery support, air-superiority and sheer mass that is required to achieve that. But Russia has all of that – an enormous amount of heavy siege artillery (200 mm and beyond), a ridiculous superiority in the number of unmanned drones and manned fighter planes and lots of new contract soldiers. Any lines the Ukrainians can build will be overcome by superior Russian forces.

Yes, passing Ukrainian minefields will be difficult. But there are ways and means to do such.

Thanks to its previous lunatic attempts the Ukrainian army has lost too many men to hold each and every line. And while the Ukrainian army will have to defend everywhere, the Russia one can choose the one or two local fronts where it wants to breach the defense lines to pass through them.

What is planned now is too little too late to save Ukraine.

Comments

@Posted by: Hot Carl | Dec 2 2023 0:34 utc | 129

if the Palestinians stop shooting the tanks and start shooting the machine infrastructure like ships and runways and business profits, the Palestinians can win easily without killing unnecessarily.

Interesting

Posted by: librul | Dec 2 2023 14:29 utc | 201

That you would fail to mention our idiot Justin Trudeau hurts me on a level that I can’t express in mere words. It cuts me deep.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 2 2023 14:22 utc | 200
I agree
Klaus’s little potentate
justin actor on a stage
took his dirty shit spoon
and filled Canadians with rage
should we tolerate this fool?
indoctrinate his kids at school
freeze his assets lock him down
jail this stupid fargin clown
he serves a power hungry psychopath
who surrounds himself with fools
buying governments and media
who became their willing tools
there is a saying that they preach
those that cannot do should teach
Trudy don your a wig and tits
teaching’s where your skill set fits

Posted by: ld | Dec 2 2023 14:30 utc | 202

Re: Posted by: Hersh post | Dec 1 2023 19:37 utc | 79

Zaluzhny Talking Peace With Russia Behind Zelensky and Biden’s Backs: Sy Hersh
President Zelensky admitted this week that Ukraine’s counteroffensive failed to “achieve the desired results” and that Kiev is now in “a new phase” of the conflict with Russia. Meanwhile, Valery Zaluzhny, the general who enraged Zelensky by calling the crisis a “stalemate,” was absent from a Thursday meeting between the president and his generals.
Russia and Ukraine’s top generals have been holding secret discussions aimed at putting the Ukrainian crisis to bed, with Ukraine’s president, and the Biden administration, left out. That’s according to a new report by veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh citing informed US sources.
The negotiations, said to be spearheaded by Russian Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov and Ukrainian Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny, still have “a lot of questions” left to be ironed out, one source, a US businessman with years of experience dealing with high-level Ukrainian diplomatic and military issues in the government, told Hersh. These include what to do about war criminals, matters of citizenship, ordnance disposal, and cross border economics, as well wrangling to assure “peace with honor,” according to a second source.
…
The US president and his foreign policy team have been left out of the talks, and “the White House is totally against the proposed agreement,” according to the US official who spoke to Hersh. “But it will happen. Putin has not disagreed,” the source said.

Ha. What a surprise.
Russia will not be going to Mykolaiv.
Russia will not be going to Odesa.
Russia will not be going to Transnistria.
Russia will not be going to Kyiv.
Yes – use the Ukrainian names because Russia is not going anywhere near these places.
Russia might not even go to the Dnieper!
Hardly a surprise Putin ready to do a deal that leaves Ukraine a festering wound for decades to come.
Just like the frozen conflict in Armenia / Azerbaijan.
Just like the frozen conflict in Syria.
Just like the frozen conflict in Serbia.
Just like the frozen conflict in Georgia.
Just like the frozen conflict in Bosnia-Hercegovina.
Just like the frozen conflict in Moldova.
Why not yet another continuation of another frozen conflict – this time in Ukraine!
The Russians would be absolute fools to sign any agreement with the non-agreement capable West – which clearly includes the regime in Ukraine.
Absolute fools.
The more things change, the more they stay the same though.
Pointless frozen conflicts everywhere that never solve anything – until in Armenia, they are solved.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 14:43 utc | 203

Re: Posted by: more Hersh | Dec 1 2023 20:17 utc | 86

A second American , whose information comes from overseas, confirmed that Russia might be willing to “allow Ukraine to join NATO,” but he added an important caveat. Under the tentative agreement, NATO would have to commit to “not place NATO troops on Ukrainian soil.” The agreement also would not allow NATO to place offensive weapons in Ukraine, but defensive weapons systems would be permitted.

Russia would be absolute fools to sign such agreements that are worth nothing and will be ignored by The West/NATO.
Does the phrase “agreement incapable” actually mean anything or is it merely meaningless blather?

The American added that Russia would agree, were the proposed peace talks to succeed, to rejoin the Comprehensive Nucear-Test-Ban Treaty from which it recently withdrew. It also would agree to remove its military from areas near the Baltic states and Moldova.

Russia would agree to remove it’s military from areas near the Baltic States? What – like Kaliningrad?
Leaving it defenceless?
Why would Russia ever agree to demilitarise it’s own territory? Wasn’t that the plan for Ukraine?
Russia to sell out Transnistria as well.
What a surprise. NOT.
Well, of course we don’t know if this article is true – but you have all been warned – prepare for the sell-out.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 14:58 utc | 204

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 2 2023 13:48 utc | 196
When the Hoover Dam was poured, tubes carrying coolant were set in the form space and concrete poured around them. The sheer volume of concrete would have held too much heat generated by its curing and weakened the concrete if it wasn’t cooled. So yes, cold weather isn’t necessarily a problem if the engineers factor that in. What’s important for strong concrete is control of the amount of water, enough for a complete chemical rxn but not too much. Seems like the real challenge would be importing enough skilled labor to work in a conflict zone, where getting paid by corrupt contractors can be an iffy proposition and the possibility of getting killed by a Lancet strike is very real. Hard to imagine how a broke Ukie government could offer enough $$$ to make such a job seem attractive.

Posted by: Mike R | Dec 2 2023 15:03 utc | 205

Re: Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 21:12 utc | 100

“Now, Russia is tackling Avdeevka pretty much last, not first, as Nato expected, in the situation where the professional AFU is long gone and rolled over several times. Limiting operation in Donbass, and concentrating fully on Avdeevka would have been a huge losing strategy and probably resulted much closer to the Afghanistan (1980s) situation Nato wanted. Also it would leave most of Ukraine intact.”
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 1 2023 18:30 utc | 61
Wow-tremendous insight-hadn’t thought of that angle. Thanks

No it isn’t.
Russia is not tackling Avdiivka “pretty much last”
You are ignoring Kherson.
You are ignoring Zaporizhzhia
You are ignoring Kramatorsk
You are ignoring Slavyansk
You are also ignoring Nikolaev.
You are also ignoring Odessa.
You are also ignoring Sumy.
You do realise Avdiivka is a suburb of Donetsk – in terms of defeating Ukraine – Russia hasn’t even captured the urban area of Donetsk after 10 years!
If Avdiivka is one of the last battles of this 10 year war, this is a huge victory for The West.
In early 2014 Russia owned 100% of Ukraine.
In early 2024 Russia may own about 20% of Ukraine.
Anyone who would call that a victory is deluded.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 15:17 utc | 206

Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 14:58 utc | 206
There’s also a pretty high certainty that Zaluzhny negotiating anything is fake. More likely it’s disseminated by some 6th columnists to spread FUD.
Beginning to think more that Hersh is being used as an interface or conduit to feed narratives from the CIA or US state department. One reason is they continuously need to feed FUD and alternative or counter narratives to the public using a non-MSM or non-government source.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2023 15:22 utc | 207

What’s important for strong concrete is control of the amount of water, enough for a complete chemical rxn but not too much.
Posted by: Mike R | Dec 2 2023 15:03 utc | 207
Water to cement ratio is the main factor then the strength of the stone aggregate. I did have all the ratios a few years back but can be found on the internet. Very little water. requires plasticizes and so forth to make it pourable. My mate took on a job repairing a large diameter concrete water pipe so I did a lot of research on high strength concrete before we started the job. We used a very high strength quick setting white cement to plaster around the leaking joint then poured a block of high strength standard concrete over it. Off memory, the fast setting white cement reached 100 mpa and the standard cement was mixed to 60 mpa. Normal concrete mix for shed floor, driveway ect around the 20 – 25 mpa.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 15:22 utc | 208

Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 15:17 utc | 208
Please keep some relative objectivity. What they are doing in Avdeevka is allowing as much of the Ukrainian mobilization potential to be funneled and buried to Avdeevka. Same thing as in Bakhmut. When Ukraine can no longer sustain their garrison there or the stream decreases significantly, then it will end.
Nato is throwing the remnants of Ukraine’s human potential against Russia at the minimum possible investment. Ever wondering why they don’t give dozens or hundreds of F-16 or Abrams tanks, instead delaying and making excuses?
Why would Russia want to go for Zaporozhye, or Slavyansk, not to speak about Kherson, Odessa or Nikolaev before Avdeevka? Completely delusional. They would simply need to extend further to achieve the same objectives they can potentially reach in Avdeevka without extending very much. Doing what they do in Avdeevka now will relatively help them later in Zaporozhye, or Slavyansk.
AFU and Nato seems to be willing to play ball so far.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2023 15:29 utc | 209

Ukrainian channel Rezident:
The Bakhmut meat grinder caused the Ukrainian Armed Forces to fail in the counter-offensive, which many experts and telegram channels warned about last winter. Now a similar situation is being repeated with the Avdeevka stranglehold, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces are forced to sacrifice reserves, but what will be the price for this step?
The enemy (the RF) left Kherson after calculating the cost of holding the city in a protracted war, and we are holding on to the city in an operational environment. Why in the second year of the war, instead of strategic results, does the leadership concentrate on tactical goals? Everyone warned us that there was no point in holding Bakhmut, but politicians created a symbol and burned reserves, and then we lost the greater battle for the symbolism of holding a city.
#source (https://t.me/rezident_ua/20680)
@Slavyangrad

Repeating a cycle of events leading to cascading failure, first Bakhmut to the offensive in Zaporozhye region, now holding of Avdeevka leading to, perhaps increasing failure to hold front lines all over the map.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2023 15:47 utc | 210

As for building a defense line, now that the US has more or less pulled the plug on the Ukraine project the infighting has begun. Very low morale on the frontlines with Russia creeping forward every time there is nothing left alive to shoot at.
US pulling its few Abrams out of Ukraine denying Russian soldiers the chance at the reward money for being the first to bag one.
Two Challengers poked their noses out of hiding a month or two back and were instantly destroyed – as far as I can tell without firing a shot.
T90 struck a mine, hit by ATGM, and made its way back for repairs under its own power.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1730853007380636107
The Economist and now a German news site are saying Russia, economically and in every way, greatly strengthened by war and sanctions. Brit knights of the round table no doubt tearing their hair out in frustration.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 15:47 utc | 211

“Studying the map of the conduct of the SMO, people periodically ask a rhetorical question: why not strike at the flank and rear of the APU, again crossing the border in the Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv regions and entering from the territory of Belarus. After all, we are surrounded by a certain territorial framework (“war zone”) doesn’t limit it.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are constantly shelling the adjacent territories of Russia, their DRGs are trying to carry out raids deep into Russian territory (not far, but still), and through Belarus Russian troops have already entered Ukrainian territory in the spring of 2022. Since then, the Kiev regime’s relations with Minsk have only worsened, so there are no serious obstacles to a repeat.
There were Polish statements regarding Poland’s readiness to defend Ukraine if the Belarusian Armed Forces take part in military operations on Ukrainian territory. But, firstly, we are not talking about the use of the Belarusian army (only passing through the territory), and secondly, Poland is not against fighting with Russia (at least in Galicia) and will definitely send the Polish Army to the front if it has the slightest hope of at least bringing the confrontation to a draw, avoiding complete defeat. defeats.
At this stage, Poland has not yet completed the reform and rearmament of its army, so a full-scale conflict with Russia, without the active complicity of its senior NATO comrades, is clearly not up to it. Warsaw itself will not survive for long, and the United States and Poland’s Western European allies do not want to fight Russia personally.
So why, if there are no significant contraindications, half of the potential front remains unused? Because it is not profitable for Russia. The enemy is trying to stretch our forces on the widest possible front, while we are trying to concentrate them on the narrowest possible area, on the main directions.
At the first stage of the SVO, Russia tried to conduct a maneuver war on a broad front, based on the fact that Ukraine in any case (with the most massive mobilization) will not have enough troops to provide the necessary density, along a huge arc, from Odessa to Zhytomyr, and a better prepared and equipped Russian army, due to effective maneuver it will gain a significant advantage.
Actually, this was a modern development of the theory of deep operation, developed in the early 30s of the Red Army, but better known in its vulgar form, under the German name Blitzkrieg. The wars of the 1990s and noughties, as well as the experience of limited conflicts, such as the Syrian one, confirmed the relevance of this theory. They showed that the modern high-tech army has an overwhelming advantage over the enemy, armed and trained in the style of the late 80s-early 90s of the last century, not only being in numerical equality, but also significantly inferior to it. It was assumed that Russia would easily realize its technological superiority.
However, the pause in negotiations made in March and April allowed Kiev not only to mobilize manpower, but also to receive modern means of combat from the West in the form of counter-battery radars, as well as to deploy its air defense/missile defense systems. Russia was not afraid of the relative abundance of the latter, but their ability to work in conjunction with Western intelligence complexes was an unpleasant surprise, which sharply and permanently reduced the effectiveness of combat aviation. By the beginning of the summer, Ukraine received Western artillery systems, which, together with reconnaissance UAVs, posed a serious threat to the nearest army rear.
All this combined made it impossible for powerful marching columns to move quickly, which was the hallmark of any Blitzkrieg. A deep operation means as few deployments for combat as possible, as much movement as possible in marching columns. Rapid movement solves the problem of cutting off the still resisting front from the rear, blocking the delivery of replenishment of manpower, weapons, ammunition, fuel and lubricants to the front, as well as destroying suitable reserves in parts, depriving the enemy of the opportunity to create a strike group to deblockade the cut-off parts or at least to create a new front line in the depth of defense.
Deep operation – a fine-tuning system. All its components should work in full and effective interaction with each other. If one of the elements of the system cannot be implemented, then the Blitzkrieg cannot be implemented either.
I have already written that the Russian military-political leadership has the main advantage and talent necessary for a military leader (since the beginning of the world wars, the leadership of the troops has been carried out by a collective military-political intelligence in the form of the Supreme Command Headquarters, a similar structure, or simply effectively established interaction between military and political leaders within traditional constitutional structures – – having discovered the problem it doesn’t try to overcome it through stubbornness or fill it with a superior resource, but looks for and quickly finds an alternative option that leads to victory, maybe slower, but no less true.
If superiority cannot be implemented in the Blitzkrieg format, it must be implemented in a different format. Clausewitz also divided wars by type: lightning wars and wars of attrition. In the 20s of the twentieth century, this division was thoroughly worked out by the Russian and Soviet military commander and military theorist Alexander Andreevich Svechin (in the Russian Imperial Army of the General Staff, Major General, in the Red Army – Divisional Commander).
By the way, Alexander Andreevich, unlike many contemporaries, was a supporter of preparing the country for a long war of attrition, rightly noting that the vast Russian expanses and mobilization capabilities do not allow the Blitzkrieg theory to be fully implemented against it. In addition, the experience of the First World War showed that the opposing blocs use so large resources that the breakthrough of one of the fronts and even the withdrawal of one of the allied powers from the war do not give a final victory.
The Second World War brilliantly confirmed all Svechin’s foresight (his work “Strategy” is still relevant and easy to read for such a specific literature). Despite all of Hitler’s Blitzkriegs, despite France’s withdrawal from the war, despite Germany’s seizure of all of the Balkans and control of Scandinavia, despite the initial successes of the Wehrmacht in the 1941 campaign against the USSR, the war eventually took on a protracted character and the victory was won not by a brilliant deep maneuver, but by a more powerful resource base.
It is logical that, realizing the unrealizability of a Blitzkrieg in the circumstances that opened up, the Russian military and political leadership switched to the second type of war – a war of attrition.
For those who like to point out without reason that Russia did not set itself the task of conquering Ukraine, I note that Blitzkrieg, like the war of attrition, as a rule, with rare exceptions, and do not pursue such a goal. The goal of any war is not to capture more territory, as some people think, but to achieve the desired peace conditions, in the shortest possible time and with the least loss and cost.
Therefore, all the definitions of classical military operations are quite applicable to the SVO, especially since it has gone beyond a short liberation campaign in support of local healthy forces. But even within this framework, it also pursued the classic goals of a military campaign, but the main emphasis was not on the military, but on the political component.
A war of attrition requires the creation of strong, stable fronts, which requires an excessive concentration of forces in priority areas. In order to avoid large-scale mobilization, which is not necessary from the point of view of the goals of the war of attrition, Russia has reduced the front line as much as possible, withdrawing troops from three north-eastern regions. Later, to increase the stability of the front, it was necessary to leave part of the Kharkiv region, as well as move beyond the Dnieper in its lower course.
Ukraine cannot launch a full-scale attack across the border in its Northeast. There are no targets for a sane operation of the armed forces – Russia has too much strategic depth, exceeding any ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to conduct an effective offensive operation.
Any breakthroughs of Ukrainian troops across the border, including by relatively large forces, would be suicidal, would be exclusively informational and political in nature, and would be aimed at putting pressure on the psyche of Russian society. However, the relatively rapid construction of fortifications along the state border and their occupation by troops, the possibility of major breakthroughs were generally reduced to zero, while periodic attempts to penetrate the Russian territory of small enemy DRGs lead only to the loss of their personnel and to similar retaliatory actions of Russia, without causing serious physical, especially information and psychological damage.
At the same time, since there is an eventual threat of a breakthrough of Russian troops across the border of the North-Eastern regions of Ukraine, the APU is forced to keep relatively large groups along the entire length of the border, from Kharkiv to Kovel and Lutsk, distracting these forces from the front. Using relatively small forces, Russia is chaining much more serious resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the North-Eastern border of Ukraine.
At the same time, on the front line from Kherson to Kupyansk, the issue of grinding the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being successfully solved by creating and constantly increasing the advantage of the Russian Armed Forces in armored vehicles, artillery, aviation, UAVs, rocket weapons, as well as in the ability to release many times more ammunition per unit of time at enemy positions. No matter how hard Kiev tries, no matter how many total and super-total mobilizations it announces, and its reserves are being depleted, the density of troops occupying the front is decreasing, the quality of these troops is falling, and the general front catastrophe is getting closer.
This is already evident from the fact that from the beginning of summer to the end of autumn, the Russian Armed Forces first switched from defense to counter-battles, then forced the APU to go on the defensive almost along the entire front line. Finally, by constantly increasing the pressure and forcing the Ukrainian General Staff to move the same units from the South to the North and to the Center to plug the constantly forming gaps in the battle formations, the Russian army began to slowly but surely push the enemy back.
The rate of retreat of the APU, the frequency and depth of breakthroughs of the Russian Armed Forces will only increase. In the near future, the Ukrainian General Staff will face a choice-to quickly retreat to unprepared positions beyond the Dnieper, risking a total collapse of the front, or to transfer brigades covering the North-Eastern border of Ukraine for another temporary stabilization of the front. If Kiev chooses the latter option, the repetition of the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces of the February-March 2022 model (taking into account and correcting the mistakes made then) on the Belarusian-Kharkiv section will again become relevant.
The fundamental difference between the war of attrition and Blitzkrieg is that the latter involves the destruction of the enemy army in the course of a deep breakthrough. If the breakthrough failed, or the destruction of the enemy for some reason did not happen, this kind of unsuccessful Blitzkrieg most often creates a crisis for the side that used it.
A war of attrition has its negative aspects (in particular, it can cause problems in the economy and fatigue of society, and it is also more expensive than a successful Blitzkrieg), but its purely military solution is less risky (if the balance of forces, one’s own and the enemy, is evaluated correctly).
In a War of attrition, a deep breakthrough occurs after the enemy’s army has suffered sufficient human and material losses, as well as sufficiently exhausted physically and morally, to lose the ability to resist the next offensive. Then the standard pressure on the enemy’s positions itself turns into a deep breakthrough, which the enemy can no longer close, not because it does not have time to transfer reserves, but because these reserves simply do not exist – they were burned during the war of attrition.
In fact, the enemy has already lost the war of attrition. Ukraine simply did not have the appropriate resources, and the West has exhausted its own, as it bitterly admits. However, the enemy is not ready to capitulate and accept Russian peace terms. If this stubborn position does not change (and we have no reason to believe that anything can change), then we will still have the opportunity to see both the catastrophe of the Ukrainian front and the rapid advance of the marching columns of the Russian army, which the enemy simply has nothing to stop. But to do this, it is necessary to finally break it morally and financially in the existing positions.”
https://cont.ws/@ishchenko/2686079

Posted by: rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 212

At this stage, Poland has not yet completed the reform and rearmament of its army, so a full-scale conflict with Russia, without the active complicity of its senior NATO comrades, is clearly not up to it. Warsaw itself will not survive for long, and the United States and Poland’s Western European allies do not want to fight Russia personally.
Posted by: rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 214
Poles better revisit series of events that happened in 1939 when WW II started.
Phony War !!!

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 2 2023 15:58 utc | 213

@ retroflecks | Dec 2 2023 9:32 utc | 172
thanks…

Posted by: james | Dec 2 2023 16:14 utc | 214

Pointless frozen conflicts everywhere that never solve anything – until in Armenia, they are solved.
Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 14:43 utc | 205
Calm yo’ titz.
We have the neocons.
The neocons have no reverse gear.
No matter what peace deal is negotiated these fools can’t help but eff it up.
What? You think Victoria Nuland is going to stand back and let bygones be bygones?
There is only one way a peace can occur between Russia and Ukraine:
The neocons in Washington all get dragged out of their beds en masse at three in the morning and executed with a large calibre bullet passed through the skull from the back of the left ear to the right eye socket.
Yes, it will look like an attempted krystallnacht but a few whiny voices howling about anti semitism is a small price to pay for peace.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2023 16:14 utc | 215

⚡️ Zelensky wants to hold elections in Ukraine, but they will not be announced until guarantees of the non-participation of the AFU commander-in-chief, Valeriy Zaluzhnyy, are obtained, the Strana business daily has quoted a source in Ukrainian political circles as saying.
According to the source, Zelensky wanted to hold the election. “But there was one problem – Zaluzhny. Until it is not solved, the election will not be announced,” the source told the publication.
According to him, Zelensky’s office first wants to get guarantees that Zaluzhny will not run for the possible election. “If such guarantees are not given, (Zelensky’s office) will try to fire the commander-in-chief. And not just like that, but with maximum discredit,” the source emphasized.
However, he pointed out that these are still just plans, and their implementation may be affected by the position of Western countries.

https://t.me/sitreports/18877

Posted by: Down South | Dec 2 2023 16:18 utc | 216

rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 214
I didn’t bother reading all that. A little research of early war maps show Russia pushed narrow lines of advance towards nuclear facilities and US biolabs. Phase one was to force a negotiated agreement along with targeting the nuclear facilities where Ukraine may have been building dirty bombs or nuclear weapons and the labs both of which were a direct threat to Russia.
Large tonnage of plutonium (30 tons?) and enriched uranium (40 tons?) at ZNPP.
Main treasure trove of biolab documents were recovered at Rubizhine where they had been buried rather than incinerated.
With Bojo ordering the comedian not to negotiate, Russia switched to phase two, the war of attrition against Nato. That’s when Lavrov said Russia accepts the challenge of a hybrid war with the Empire of Lies.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 16:19 utc | 217

Posted by: rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 214
“At this stage, Poland has not yet completed the reform and rearmament of its army, so a full-scale conflict with Russia, without the active complicity of its senior NATO comrades, is clearly not up to it.”
“is clearly not up to it”
Given how long Ukraine has stood up to the SMO, it is hard to take this seriously.

Posted by: ed5 | Dec 2 2023 16:22 utc | 218

Given how long Ukraine has stood up to the SMO, it is hard to take this seriously.
Posted by: ed5 | Dec 2 2023 16:22 utc | 220
More troll-like garbage. Ukraine is simply the Anglo/Nato cannon fodder. Russia destroyed three Nato armies and with that has defeated Nato.
Second Nato army supplied with ex soviet block equipment plus a little western equipment and third Nato army mostly western equipment.
Russia has destroyed all of Ukraine’s large weapon inventory along with those dragged out of graveyards, destroyed the majority of ex soviet military equipment from the ex soviet block, plus a large range of western equipment. Not to mention so called mercenaries, many of whom were on “unpaid leave” from their respective militaries.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 16:41 utc | 219

Its almost pointless to explain to people in the west that the ukraine lost 2+ armies. All they see, and been told, is that the ukraine ALONE without nato is holding the russians back and that they already reconquered 50% land back or something. Facts dont matter, propagan… i mean, western values press said so.
As constantine said in so many words, the establishment makes sure that the plebs only get the “korrekt“ news.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Dec 2 2023 17:07 utc | 220

Given how long Ukraine has stood up to the SMO, it is hard to take this seriously.
Posted by: ed5 | Dec 2 2023 16:22 utc | 220
Russia, as others have pointed out, has destroyed three or three and a half “western” armies, depending on how you want to count, which is what they set out to do, and it has not taken that long at all, thanks to Zelensky being a moron. Now we are going to see what else Russia wants to do, whether anybody else wants to take it seriously or not.
Just as a reminder:
“Never get in a land war in Asia.”
“Never march on Moscow.”

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 2 2023 17:10 utc | 221

I don’t know if the following has been posted already, didn’t have the time to read the threads…

Myrotvorets, The Shadowy Web of Extortion, Violence, and Political Blackmail
Foundation to Battle Injustice’s Unmasking the Ukrainian Website’s Threat to Western Democracies and Its Chilling Kill Lists
https://dcweekly.org/2023/12/01/the-ukrainian-governments-misuse-of-myrotvorets-an-investigation-by-the-foundation-to-battle-injustice/

Sinister Operations: American Non-Profit Accused of Shocking Organ Harvesting Scheme Involving Ukrainian Soldiers
https://dcweekly.org/2023/12/01/sinister-operations-american-non-profit-accused-of-shocking-organ-harvesting-scheme-involving-ukrainian-soldiers/

The first one is quite long but a must-read. I wouldn’t be surprised if the black eye of Scholz has been caused by some paid attacker 🙂

Posted by: Zet | Dec 2 2023 17:22 utc | 222

Yesterday the Daily Mail was full of “Ukraine’s” great triumph in severing the railway links to Russia from both China and Korea, two thousand miles inside Russia. It got mentioned here as well.
Yet no mention on Guardian or BBC. No mention by the pro-US trolls at Unz Review.
Was it all just fake news?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 2 2023 17:30 utc | 223

It is clear, any negotiations at this moment are against the interests of Russian people.
But the Rusian oligarch and Kremlin guys may want rheir holidays in Toscana.
The Russian elite is dying to be loved by the West.

Posted by: zorge | Dec 2 2023 18:18 utc | 224

Was it all just fake news?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 2 2023 17:30 utc | 225
Yep. That one was fairly obvious.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 2 2023 18:29 utc | 225

In 1964, reporters at a competing news organization discovered that the NY Times article was inconsistent with the facts, but they were unwilling at the time to challenge NY Times editor Abe Rosenthal.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 1 2023 17:26 utc | 43
Perhaps they were afraid of being called anti semitic …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 2 2023 3:36 utc | 154
Or perhaps they were afraid of having their heads blown off like JFK, or dying of “suicide” or “overdose”, like so many witnesses and/or critics of the coup of November 1963.
Go up against the MIC? Yeah, right.
Ask Gary Webb of the Mercury News (or the editors of the Mercury News) what happens when you print an article that exposes the MIC or CIA?
Or look at the fate of Michael Hastings, who was said to be working on a story about John Brennan. What happened to Michael compared to what has happened for Brennan?
As Chuck Schumer pointed out: “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

Posted by: wagelaborer | Dec 2 2023 18:31 utc | 226

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Summary for 2 Dec 2023 by 18:42⚡️
🔹In #Kherson Direction, near #Krymki, our forces hit another boatload of Ukrainian militants on the #Dnieper. In the village itself without changes. Ours are pushing the AFU towards the water from the west, artillery is hitting the shelters, drones are preventing the AFU from entering the forest belt to the south. But at the same time, the enemy retains a serious fire advantage on the right bank, and the problem of counterbattery fire remains unsolved. The density of the AFU’s electronic warfare systems in this area is also considerably higher than ours.
🔹In #Zaporozhye Direction, without any serious changes in the weather or the line of contact. The artillery duels have decreased in activity. Yesterday, the AFU tried to attack unsuccessfully northwest of #Verbovoye. Today our army has already gone on the offensive north of the village. Fighting is ongoing.
🔹In #SouthDonetsk Direction, our forces are rather back in active defence. They are confidently repelling counterattacks by the AFU near #Staromayorskoye and #Urozhaynoye. They are holding the recently occupied lines.
▪️ In #Maryinka, according to rough estimates, about a km separates our zone of control and the houses held by the AFU. There are reports that the main enemy forces are withdrawing. Further on, they have well prepared positions from which they have yet to be dislodged. On the right is #Krasnogorovka, ahead is #Kurakhovo.
🔹In #Donetsk Direction, on the northern #Avdeyevka flank our army is storming #Stepovoye with renewed vigour. For several days there has been fire training, now they are moving on the ground. The probable goal is the flank coverage of the village. Ours have expanded the zone of control from the north and south in the forest plantations. There is also an advance towards #Novokalinovo. On the southern flank without significant changes. We slightly advanced towards #Severnoye and 9th quarter, besides ours are consolidating in the industrial zone. The AFU do not stop trying to form small groups; their drones are flying.
🔹In the #Bakhmut Direction, having liberated the village of #Khromovo (#Artyomovskoye) and its northern outskirts, our fighters are trying to establish control over the route to Chasov Yar. Our units have also advanced south of the #Berkhovskoye Reservoir and secured their foothold near the #Valyanovskoye Nursery. The Bakhmut – Chasov Yar railway line runs nearby. On the western outskirts of the city, our army suddenly attacked the AFU positions in the direction of #Krasnoye (#Ivanovskoye). The attack was successful, we took new positions.
🔹In #Svatovo Direction, our forces attacked from the #Torskoye ledge, however, without progress. At the same time, reports about our advancement northwards, towards #Terny. In #Sinkovka, counter fighting continues.

https://t.me/sitreports/18885

Posted by: Down South | Dec 2 2023 18:34 utc | 227

After reading Helmer’s back to work article on Putin’s admiration and opinions of Kissinger and Netanyahu I begin to wonder if Putin isn’t clearing out Ukraine for the new Jewish State
This war has certainly removed any chance of Europe’s financial or miltary protections if a new Izrael cropped up on their doorstep.
The newly acquired farmlands could proceed according to Zion unimpeded and that would be the end of China
Seems like Empire has succeeded in cuckholding the rest of Islam pretty neatly
oh god
pour me a double or I will nurse this imaginary nightmare all day
Thanks b
….I think

Posted by: ld | Dec 2 2023 19:00 utc | 228

@ more Hersh | Dec 1 2023 20:17 utc | 87
I think that was the most and slimiest garbage I’ve ever seen strung into one post here.
I don’t have the stamina to wade through it all para-by-para and absurdity-by-absurdity , so I’ll content myself by noting the attempt to claim American ownership of the “talks.”

Posted by: John Kennard | Dec 2 2023 19:31 utc | 229

Real intel does not tremble in fear. It does not support genocidal maniacs & big lies. It recognizes the difference between right & wrong approaches, sanity & insanity, courage & cowardice.
Some powerful observations from Scott Ritter:

“Right now my sympathies are with H@mas Russia not w/ Israel Ukraine because of peace” (Dec 1, 2023)
https://youtu.be/BTbyvFohQg8?si=pc9pPmcKtYNaFTsM
(Brief Excerpts below)

Topics:
Mass media/dumbed down Americans/blind lead the blind
Russophobia
JFK’s advice: Try to understand where the Russians are coming from
Nuclear Holocaust
Ukraine
RFK Jr
Duty and responsibility of every American citizen

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Mass media/dumbed down Americans/blind lead the blind
15:44
Generally speaking the American people are the most ignorant people in the world… these ignorant people including…all the Talking Heads on TV. I’ve met them all.
There was a time when I was actually invited to be on all those shows… back when Bill Clinton was getting beat up and the Republicans thought that my message was cool. So I could be on Good Morning America… me and Katie kurick were cutting the rug… Dan Rather and I were having beer afterwards and Tom brokaw invited me to his Christmas parties I mean I was in and you know but then suddenly I became inconvenient because the truth became inconvenient because suddenly a different president came in…but I met them all. They’re dumber than dirt truly are dumber than dirt these are people that read what is put on the teleprompter in front of them and they don’t have any depth none their producers own their brains. I’m dead serious and any of you big name people out there… disagree with me I challenge you right now to debate anytime anywhere at the drop of the Hat. Let’s hook and Jab on stage in front of an audience and find out who is shallow and who’s deep.


Russophobia
17:42…
We’re gripped here in the United States with Russophobia. It’s a fear of Russia, an unnatural fear of Russia. Ask people about Russia, they don’t know anything about Russia…. So suddenly they’re told Vladimir Putin’s this evil dude and they go “yeah he’s evil. Why? Tom Brokaw told me so, or you know somebody told me he was evil”…. but they don’t know
who he is.
They don’t know where he came… “He was KGB” Really wow that’s a lot of knowledge there guy… He was also a taxi driver in St Petersburg when he got out of the KGB in the decade of the 1990s…
One of the worst decades in Russian history that millions of Russians lost their lives because of the policies that we imposed…We empowered oligarchs who stole money from the pensioners leaving them homeless in apartments that suddenly became valuable only after the pensioners were removed so Mafia gangs went around and murdered millions of pensioners to steal their apartments and sell them to make money for the oligarchs who then fed that money back to us.
I bet most Americans don’t know… that’s what created Vladimir Putin. He’s a guy who came into power in 1999 he took a broken country and since then he’s been trying to rebuild it and Lead it out and we resent this because we thought we had beaten the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War we thought we could keep Russia down… and suddenly a guy comes in named Vladimir Putin says ‘I’m not playing that game anymore. I’m a Russian I’m gonna do what’s good…for Russia… He started to do this and we resented him…

JFK’s advice
Try to understand where the Russians were coming from

19:21
John F Kennedy gave a speech at the American University in June of 1963 it’s considered one of the best speeches he ever gave but one of the things he talks about there is the need to not necessarily agree with Russia or the Soviet Union at that time on everything but to understand their point of view their perspective that before we make a final decision we have to put ourselves in their shoes and see the problem from their perspective and once we do that we might understand why they’re doing what they’re doing and maybe we won’t fear it.
…I’m talking about the people who saved the world in World War II… the Soviet Union lost 27 million people they were the number one killer of Nazis… the people that saved the world stood up the Nazi Germany saved the world… you got to put yourself in their shoes and understand the miracle that’s taking place in Russia. I was just there last May I have to tell you… clean. Well organized the economy is working and great people just like the Iraqis the Russians are great people they are welcoming they’re friendly they’re educated they’re cultured they’re everything that we claim they’re not but this Russophobia has allowed the media and the government to shape the minds of the Americans so that we accept anything at face value we don’t know why Russia went in we’re just told that Russia brutally invaded Ukraine.
Nuclear Holocaust
32:43
We’re in danger of having this nuclear arms race break out and once that happens one mistake one glitch in the system one you know misidentification of radar and it’s over…
It’s over that quick you won’t even know it. You’ll be sitting there. There’ll be a Flash and you’ll be dead and that’s what you need to hope for. You need to hope that you’re in a place that’s going to get hit with a thermonuclear Warhead early on because you want to die instantly. What you don’t want to be is the person outside the immediate lethal range and die of a slow death of radiation poisoning or starvation or disease and have this long lingering death but the bottom line is we’re all gonna die. No one will survive a thermonuclear exchange between the United States and Russia and that’s the direction we’re heading right now…
Neither side claims to want this uh but you know the United States we we’re so accustomed to being the world’s so remaining superpower after the collapse of the Soviet Union. We are so arrogant we are so full of ourselves that we can’t for a moment do what John F Kennedy asked us to do put ourselves in the Russian shoes to see the problem from the Russian perspective. I’ve done that and I have to tell you once you do that excuse my language but you realize how much America sucks as a nation. I mean and we really do suck because we lie we lie we lie and we don’t care about living in harmony with anybody it’s only about us. We are the most selfish Nation on the planet. It disgusts me…
I’m a proud American don’t get me wrong you come after my country I’ll be on the front line ready getting a little old so I’ll be hobbling on the front line but I’ll still be there… You know I’m not going to let anybody run rough shot over America but I’ll be damned if I’m going to support us running rough shot over other people.That’s not what this is about.
We’re supposed to be the good Nation. We’re supposed to be the people that believe in human rights and individual liberties and freedoms. Our constitution is supposed to have meaning….Not only do we violate the rights of American citizens on a daily basis…. we the government we put in power.. we take these same standards all men are created equal and we know that means all humans are created equal all men and women.

Ukraine
40:03
Ukraine is a giant grift.
There’s not been an honest day of governance in Ukraine. The oligarchs in Ukraine are some of most corrupt and some of the most violent… Faceless Men Who are running the country… if you think it’s about the parliament the will of the people nope it’s about the oligarchs getting together and divvying up power and it’s always been that way. Zelinsky was brought in by an oligarch to do exactly what he’s doing right now… he is the servant of the oligarchs which means he’s a servant of the powers that are using the oligarchs to pursue policies inside Ukraine…. The one good thing about this war is it will probably break that system. A Russian Victory will probably result in the defeat of this corrupt entity that’s known as Ukraine and whatever emerges after that might might have a chance of normalcy…

52:59
RFK Jr
I bought into it I drank that Kool-Aid as quick as I could because that guy was saying the right things about Russia and Ukraine and to me it was a breath of fresh air… he would call me frequently and we would talk about Russia and I found that a lot of things that I was telling would find its way into his his what he was saying. I went okay I’m on… team Bobby I’m there and then Israel. What the hell
happened here…it doesn’t make any sense because Bobby’s a thinking man… I watched his brain work as he worked through the Russia problem I saw him ask the right questions and demand answers and challenge uh you know preconceived notions and I’m like if he just took that approach to Israel man this would be so easy, but no he is a blind supporter of Israel…. he’s using the American people to position himself to victory and that’s what I think is happening here because then you listen to him this is the peace guy listen to him, not just about Israel. Listen to him about China, listen to him about Iran this man doesn’t believe in peace.
This man is a died in the wool American supremacist….Russia thing is a topic of convenience for him he doesn’t believe in anything he saying and he he proves it every time he opens his mouth about Israel this this Bobby Kennedy has sold out and I’m no longer on team Bobby…. Bobby Kennedy Jr is defending war criminals
Duty and responsibility of every American citizen
1hr 02

… This whole internet thing has thrown a curve ball into the issue of free speech the controversies around Twitter you need to get this is the duty and responsibility of every American citizen. we have to be an informed citizenry we have to be educated, informed because we vote and that vote has to count and stand for something, otherwise we just become a bunch of sheep that… every every four years they send some sheep dogs down and you know Democratic sheep go this way Republican sheep go this way, independents go to the slaughterhouse you know and that’s it that’s what happens every four years because we’re too stupid to do anything otherwise. Empower yourself. Knowledge is power. Make yourselves stronger. Make yourselves a better American….
https://youtu.be/BTbyvFohQg8?si=pc9pPmcKtYNaFTsM
Above text is only an excerpt to listen to the entire talk /and or/ to see the transcript. Follow the link.
—

For any interested who don’t already know:
Scott Ritter’s 5 Star, two part, July 2023 expose: “Agent Zelensky” banned by youtube, is available on Rumble. It demolishes the Big Lies told by Biden & the western warmongers.
https://rumble.com/v2zs3r0-a-scott-ritter-investigation-agent-zelensky-part-1.html (32 minutes)
https://rumble.com/embed/v2y1y5o/?pub=4 (45 minutes)

The more secretive or unjust an organization is, the more leaks induce fear and paranoia in its leadership and planning coterie. This must result in minimization of efficient internal communications mechanisms (an increase in cognitive “secrecy tax”) and consequent system-wide cognitive decline resulting in decreased ability to hold onto power as the environment demands adaption. Hence in a world where leaking is easy, secretive or unjust systems are nonlinearly hit relative to open, just systems. Since unjust systems, by their nature induce opponents, and in many places barely have the upper hand, mass leaking leaves them exquisitely vulnerable to those who seek to replace them with more open forms of governance…
Fomenting a worldwide movement of mass leaking is the most… effective political intervention.”
Julian Assange

Calm is found in the light of Truth. The World Teacher

Posted by: Toby C | Dec 2 2023 19:54 utc | 230

From Twitter-ex feed, by Geroman:

Ukrainians reports that Ochakov, Nikolaev region, is under heavy fire from RF MLRS and heavy artillery. Kamikaze UAVs also carry out attacks.
It’s been a long time since there has been such intensity in this direction.”
(It is a base from where NATO (UK mostly) operate its “naval drones” and “SOF landing operations”)

A road to Odesa has been cleared slowly than suddenly, so it seems.
When RF regains oil platforms and the Snake Island, that South of Odesa region is toast. I guess before the West starts creating the mess in Moldavia, RF has to react quickly.

Posted by: whirlX | Dec 2 2023 20:06 utc | 231

“[T]he Ukrainian army will have to defend everywhere… ” As Frederick the Great was quoted as saying: “He who defends everything defends nothing.”

Posted by: truk4491 | Dec 2 2023 20:42 utc | 232

@MilitarySummary
#UkraineRussiaWar
Zelensky will not begin mobilization until he receives a 100% guarantee from Zaluzhny, who is hesitating and holding secret negotiations with Moscow.
Meanwhile, the Russians are advancing in every direction, taking advantage of the confusion in the Ukrainian government.

Posted by: lmao | Dec 2 2023 20:48 utc | 233

severe snow storms have hit Ukraine Kiev ,Kharkiv. but also mainly in the south around Odessa .. power cuts etc etc

Posted by: Jo | Dec 2 2023 21:34 utc | 234

To: DunGroanin | Dec 2 2023 13:27 utc | 194
And who got the job to take care of the “controversial” nord stream pipelines (note the date from 2021-04-11)?
https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/amos-hochstein-nord-stream-2-dieser-mann-soll-der-pipeline-diplomat-der-usa-werden/27085568.html
Here you have it. Schoenes Fruechtchen.

Posted by: C | Dec 2 2023 22:08 utc | 235

I don’t know where this kind of optimism comes from. so far Russia has done only strategic defense with very limited offenses (usually with mixed, sometimes disastrous results). Russia does well in urban warfare, but that is very slow. it’s safer to assume that Ukraine will succeed in building serious defensive lines along the front and it’s unlikely Russia will have an easy time attacking them

Posted by: abel | Dec 2 2023 22:19 utc | 236

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 2 2023 11:32 utc | 181
Cope springs eternal 😉

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Dec 2 2023 22:25 utc | 237

Posted by: lmao | Dec 2 2023 20:48 utc | 235
I think it’s taking advantage of the dire state of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, rather than any political confusion emanating from the Government. They are also leveraging the capabilities of the numerous weapon systems and their upgraded platforms that are now being produced at an industrial rate, allowing their widespread deployment and employment. TI sensors on FPV’s allow targeting in winter weather conditions and arming the Orlan surveillance drone allows for a, devolved, long range unmanned targeting capability. This cycle of Russian improvement and Ukrainian decline is now generating operational opportunities previously inaccessible to Russia, furthering the disparity between the two sides, reflected in the military and political news now occurring.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 2 2023 22:31 utc | 238

Train traffic through the Severomuysky tunnel on the Itykit – Okushikan section of the East Siberian Railway has been completely restored. The press service of Russian Railways (RZD) reported this on December 2.
“At 18:20 Moscow time, a freight train passed through the Severomuysky tunnel. “More than 120 people and special equipment were involved in resuming railway communication, as well as eliminating the consequences of the incident,” the message on the Telegram channel says.
The company noted that train traffic along the section was not interrupted, but it was organized along a bypass section with an increase in travel time. All passenger trains are on schedule.
Earlier, on November 30, Russian Railways reported a freight train fire in the Severomuysky tunnel. The train was stopped and two firefighting trains were sent to the scene.

Posted by: rpst | Dec 2 2023 22:32 utc | 239

not just truckes problems at Polish Ukraine border .. also Slovakia… Hungary tbc…only Moldavia is “fairly normal” says Slavyangrad.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 2 2023 22:38 utc | 240

Posted by: abel | Dec 2 2023 22:19 utc | 238
The time for transitioning to a defensive posture should have happened months ago, it’s too little, too late now and will probably resemble nothing more than trying to integrate and improve existing field defences, whilst preserving mechanised units to act as local reserves. Russia’s air dominance and access to strike platforms, with ever-increasing capabilities regarding their sensor suites, operational ranges and weapons capabilities, will make any plans for new defensive constructions a hazardous business. Ukraine was unable to prevent Russia fortifying the axes of their main attacks, with strategically catastrophic results, Russia does not have those limitations and will maximise their advantages, whilst punishing the operational and strategic blunders made by her opponent.

Posted by: Milites | Dec 2 2023 22:50 utc | 241

Liverwurst sausage…
With a citric acid intolerance that virtual eliminates all fruit and veg for my diet into whatever future I have left, I have tried making a sausage out of lamb offal as the organ meats of mammals are high in vitamins and minerals. As a kid we would get fed lambs fry the day after the old man killed a sheep and never liked it. Same with the kidneys – they went into a lamb stew. Although still eaten in many cultures animal guts has never appealed to me. But beggars cannot be choosers.
I will have to name my sausage the Sholtz sausage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 23:50 utc | 242

rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 214
Thank you for that very informative summary of the SMO.
It seems to me that the NATO strategy had one idea- the creation of an internal crisis in Moscow that would lead to the break up of the current government.
In a word: Regime Change.’
Since it became clear that the actual issue of this cunning plan was the strengthening of the Russian government, the exposure of Fifth Column elements and the rebulding of Russia’s military, there hasn’t been a plan on NATO’s part.
Just a lot of straw grasping.
And idiocy such as the destruction of Nordstream- a crime that will have to be paid for.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 2 2023 23:53 utc | 243

Matt@49
“I find Mecouris painful to listen to. A form of torture actually.”
You could try to increase the video speed to 1.25. That will help with his halting
English style of speaking.

Posted by: Komrade Retslag | Dec 3 2023 0:23 utc | 244

There are two ways to support the ukronazis.
1) Directly.
2) By bashing Russia, or Putin, or the army, etc.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 3 2023 0:37 utc | 245

ld | Dec 2 2023 19:00 utc | 230
Somewhat foolish to get wrapped up in Helmer. Helmer moved to Russia in the nineties and I have not found a good reason for him moving there permanently at that time. He does come up with interesting documents at times but his opinions must be taken with a grain of salt. I often have the feeling he leans towards the so called liberals of Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 3 2023 1:08 utc | 246

Hersh is triggering opinion polls among US electorate :
1. Will you continue support Ukraine in current situation, when Zaluzhny is secretly negotiating with RU on peace agreement and still enjoying double the amount of support from ukrainian population, compare to Zelensky ?
2. Will you continue to support current Ukrainian president, no matter what, including possible military split inside Ukraine ?

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Dec 3 2023 1:16 utc | 247

@ Toby C | Dec 2 2023 19:54 utc | 232
Good job filling in the extract quotes.
I have a request for all — the video link given is from
FUN 24H channel – a purely MONEY Making rip off operation.
I just hate low life marketing/advertising rip offs like this!
They have only recently started Copying RITTER videos and re-uploading them — which ranks them higher in the RECOMMENDED panel for some reason by YT – likely shadowbanned by YT algos.
The ORIGINAL Interview was from this Channel – please use this link instead –
Scott Ritter “Our Government Is LYING!” (Exclusive Interview)
Sabby Sabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7N4BOnSJnY
I know, it’s pissing against hurricane winds … but it matters to this Starfish.
Support the people who deserve support!
Cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 3 2023 2:10 utc | 248

Posted by: Naive | Dec 3 2023 0:37 utc | 247

2) By bashing Russia, or Putin, or the army, etc.

Criticism is always helpful if it is constructive and Putin has clearly made mistakes, see Minsk I+II.
Or see that problem Prigo,
Prigo already wanted to buy ammunition in the DPRK last December, at that time a NOGO in the Kremel. However, the ammunition supplied was probably too little and he was very unhappy thatswhy. Now after all the trouble, Russia is probably buying ammunition there. No criticism?
I see Putin differently now than I did before the war, but I’m not a Russian and my opinion is uninteresting in this point

Posted by: theo | Dec 3 2023 2:17 utc | 249

Some videos for today.
Russian drone strikes in Kherson oblast and in the DPR near Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/90bdb3e33624045313d37614ffb9e0a0/
Russian artillery destroys enemy infantry near Kleshcheevka, south of the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/c326f120ca355903abdb48a88e534717/
Russian D-30 howitzer pounds enemy position near Rabotino, on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/eae08685f6cb2cb61d80fe4b294b37e9/
Russian drones strike enemy infantry near Belogorovka:
https://rutube.ru/video/8e592102ccd7ff97f0ed3e077f670db4/
Russian Ka-52 helicopters in action near Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/3b7fac2898a12fe0d7a2f0f7260fadd4/

Posted by: Nate | Dec 3 2023 2:44 utc | 250

🤔Is Zelensky over?
Events in Ukraine are moving fast.
In an interview with Der Spiegel, the mayor of Kiev, Vitaliy Klitschko, has already said that Ukraine is “on the road to authoritarianism” and indirectly compared Zelensky to Putin. At the same time, the Security Service of Ukraine accused Petr Poroshenko of preparing provocations on the orders of Russian special services – the former president was even recognised as a national traitor preparing a new Maidan. Allegedly, he was going to travel to Hungary to negotiate with Viktor Orban, Ukraine’s main European adversary.
What’s going on?
Apparently, after the failure of the counter-offensive, the West made a number of tough demands of Zelensky. Here are the main ones:
1. Transition of the AFU to strategic defence.
2. Rejection of “hawkish” rhetoric. Public recognition of the impossibility of achieving the objectives (1991 borders) now.
3. Holding of elections in 2024.
Only when these conditions are met will full aid continue. And the amount of aid will be just enough to allow Ukraine to defend itself. No more. The last chance to retake the territories was the summer counter-offensive, Ukraine could not use it. Now it’s over. The attempts are over, it’s time to close the shop.
For internal reasons, the West has decided to put the war on “slow fire”. Not to end it, but to reduce its intensity.
It is also important for the West that the country it is helping is an exemplary “fighter for democracy”. Otherwise, it will be difficult to explain even small expenditures on Ukraine to their elites and taxpayers. There is a great risk that Ukrainian sceptics will ride this wave to power. The recent successes of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands or the growing popularity of Sarah Wagenknecht in Germany are the best examples of this. And in the United States, Trump is coming to power and will use the Ukrainian agenda to his advantage.
Zelensky seems to be resisting this pressure. And right now he is negotiating with Western elites. We’ll be on the defensive, but I won’t admit publicly that I’ve lost the chance to retake Crimea. I will call elections, but only if Zaluzhny does not take part (read: if Zelensky is virtually guaranteed to win). And so on.
David Arahamia’s confession of the collapse of the Istanbul agreements is not an accidental revelation, but an attempt by Zelensky’s entourage to backtrack. They say we could have reached an agreement with the Russians a year and a half ago, and on much more favourable terms. But your Johnson flew in and said: ‘Fight to the end, we will provide military support. So we did. And now you’re abandoning us and trying to take away our support. You’re forcing us to give up our territories. What are you doing?!
The West, in turn, blames Kiev for the failure of the counteroffensive. Arestovich echoed these sentiments: Zelensky burned too many resources in Bakhmut, so there were not enough forces in the south. And he did not defend at all, did not listen to the military command. Kiev parries this by saying that the help was given too late and too little for a full-fledged counteroffensive.
Now we see that the West is stepping up the pressure. The blockade of Ukrainian lorries on the Polish border is apparently not the truckers’ own initiative but part of a campaign to force Ukraine’s hand. There is also a wave of publications in The Economist and other major media, which increasingly target Zelensky personally.
Next comes the escalation of the political conflict. It is no coincidence that Klitschko made his accusations not on Facebook or in the Ukrainian media, but on the pages of a major German newspaper. The West is sending its last warnings.
If Zelensky sticks to his guns and does not agree to the conditions set by the West, he will probably be demolished. I would not rule out the scenario of a military coup in which Zaluzhny simply brings heavy equipment to Kiev.
– Roman Yuneman, Russian politician

https://t.me/sitreports/18897

Posted by: Down South | Dec 3 2023 4:52 utc | 251

I see numerous comments about the US pressure on Z, as reported by Down South @253.
But surely Z is not the one to convince. All the Banderites, Azov, Right Sector heavies will not allow Z to do the things the US ask of him unless they are convinced too. So the target for all the US pressure is misplaced, unless they too have been heavied and rejected it but we don’t hear about it.

Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Dec 3 2023 5:10 utc | 252

@ Digital Dinosaur
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/rising-tensions-between-political-and-military-leaders-in-uk
It is quite revealing, that situation among ukrainian ultra-nationalists is also dire…

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Dec 3 2023 5:25 utc | 253

“You do realise Avdiivka is a suburb of Donetsk – in terms of defeating Ukraine – Russia hasn’t even captured the urban area of Donetsk after 10 years!”
Posted by: Julian | Dec 2 2023 15:17 utc | 208
No, it has been 1 year and 9.5 months. Russia did not enter the war until late February 2022. Before that it was the Donbass citizens on their own against Ukrainian forces (who were getting help from NATO countries even then). Russia even had the Donbass fighters pull back at certain points before or after some agreements. So Russia actually hindered the Donbass militia while Ukraine was being trained by the U.S./NATO and spied on by the OSCE (which was given access to the Donbass and would collect info which got in the hands of the Ukrainian forces).

Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 3 2023 5:44 utc | 254

This was written back around 2016. Russia was not helping the Donbass in those years. Russian forces didn’t come until late February 2022, so it hasn’t been 10 years by a long shot.

Peaceful civilians in Donbass perish at the fault of the representatives of the OSCE monitoring mission. Such an opinion was expressed by a resident of the town Zolotoye, who also was a victim of the odious gang battalion of the Ministry of Internatl Affairs of Ukraine “Tornado”. As the former captive affirms, representatives of OSCE use their power to move across the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, and then transfer the collected data to the Ukrainian side. “The OSCE are dishonest people. Although they have power from many states, because of their behaviour people shed blood here. Civilians suffer: children, women, the elderly. Their houses are being destroyed by their aiming. They move around, learn where things are and what they are. And then simply report. Then the Ukrainian shells fly according to this aim,” said the man.

Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 3 2023 5:47 utc | 255

https://news.ru/near-east/voenkor-poddubnyj-uvidel-v-udarah-izrailya-po-damasku-znak-dlya-rossii/
Israel has struck a Shiite neighbourhood in Damascus for the second time in the past two months, military correspondent Yevgeny Poddubny reported in his Telegram channel. The journalist suggested that if Tel Aviv, ignoring international law and state sovereignty, is free to strike neighbouring countries, then perhaps Russia has the right to legitimately open fire on military facilities on the territory of Poland or the Baltic states.
Tel Aviv is absolutely free to use force to strike neighbouring countries even at the mere suspicion that there are groups with unfriendly intentions towards the Jewish state on the territory of those states. And doesn’t give a damn about international law and state sovereignty. Does this mean that Russia can legitimately hit military facilities on the territory of Poland or the Baltic states? The facilities there are used by the Kiev regime to train terrorists who attack civilian targets in Russia,” the military commander stressed.
Earlier Poddubny said that Israel used the ceasefire in the conflict with the Palestinian movement Hamas to “take a smoke break and recover”. Therefore, the journalist believes, there is nothing surprising in the fact that the Israeli army has resumed strikes on the Gaza Strip. Israel has driven itself into a situation that simply does not provide for de-escalation, so new trials await the Palestinian people – far more tragic than anything that happened before the truce, the war correspondent summarised.
Oh,oh

Posted by: Oberbayer | Dec 3 2023 6:24 utc | 256

This story’s in the MSM.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/42371

Poroshenko was apparently stopped at the border because he was on his way to Hungary to do a deal with Orban.
Power struggles are brewing everywhere and it’s all bad news for Zelensky at the moment.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 3 2023 10:03 utc | 257

Odds and ends:
https://t.me/milinfolive/111887

The remains of one of the loitering ammunition Shahed-136 aka “Geran-2” with a mobile communication device under the 4G LTE standard attached to it using tape with a SIM card of the Ukrainian operator “Kievstar” and a battery were found in the Kiev area the other day. On the Ukrainian side, they think that ours are experimenting with the possibility of using Ukrainian cellular networks as an additional means of navigation and control of drones.

https://t.me/milinfolive/111894

Extremely rare footage of the APU using the Norwegian-made Black Hornet Nano micro-drone, supplied to Ukraine from the USA.
In June 2023, a control complex and two such drones were captured by Russian special forces during a battle with Ukrainian saboteurs in the village of Novaya Tavolzhanka, Belgorod region.

https://t.me/milinfolive/111870

A selection of kamikaze drone strikes on the Ukrainian Armed Forces
Kamikaze drones are becoming commonplace at the front, but their contribution is invaluable.

https://t.me/milinfolive/111859

Inflatable mock-ups of the M270B MLRS produced by the Lithuanian company Aviatema. It is possible that they have already been supplied or will be supplied to Ukraine.
During the day, with good optics, recognizing the layout will not be difficult, but in more difficult observation conditions or from a satellite, identifying a false target will be almost impossible.

https://t.me/milinfolive/111874

It is reported that the Bundeswehr has trained a second group of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers in the use of the Patriot air defense system.
70 Ukrainian military personnel were trained for six weeks at one of the Air Force bases in Germany. The protection of Ukrainian airspace, as stated by Bundeswehr Lieutenant General Andreas Marlow, is currently a key task.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 3 2023 10:23 utc | 258

Matt@49
“I find Mecouris painful to listen to. A form of torture actually.”
You could try to increase the video speed to 1.25. That will help with his halting
English style of speaking.
Posted by: Komrade Retslag | Dec 3 2023 0:23 utc | 246
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I listen to him at 2* speed. That is perfectly listenable. And he is worth listening to because he is very shrewd and reads between the lines of public statements by various actors much more effectively than most.

Posted by: Tim | Dec 3 2023 10:38 utc | 259

Technical or political?
https://t.me/remylind21/10482

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have lost Starlink satellite communications over the LPR, DPR and Kharkov region.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 3 2023 10:57 utc | 260

According to #Legitimnyi, no additional funds for building defensive structures, consequentially most funds should be cannibalized from other budgets, including procurement of weapons. This is Der Untergang level stuff, drawing imaginary armies and defensive belts on the map with no funding or which don’t exist in reality.

#rumors
Our source reports that no money was budgeted for the construction of defense structures and “lines,” which everyone in Ukraine began to talk about so en masse. This means they will take from the military budget for the purchase of weapons and simply from the general budget of the country, cutting off other sectors.
The construction of defense structures has already been estimated at at least $40 billion.
Now they will try to extort money from the West, but the partners will give “crumbs”. Which means that they will build the defense slowly and steal a lot, as with Yatsenyuk’s wall.
As a result, it may turn out that according to the documents there are structures, but in fact they are not.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 3 2023 12:22 utc | 261

Battle for Avdeevka: “the noose is tightening.”
Thus, in the Avdeevsky sector, Russian troops slowly but surely continue to push through the defenses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. On the northern flank, the main clashes are taking place in the area of ​​the railway line near Stepovoy; fighting continues near the Avdeevsky coke plant, where for now the main efforts of the Russian Armed Forces are concentrated on the fire defeat of a powerful stronghold.
Russian troops also successfully advanced south of Novokalinovo, occupying strongholds along the reservoir. Having advanced across the railway track, the position of the Russian Armed Forces significantly improved in the context of the attack on Novokalinovo.
To the west of Avdeevka, assault detachments of the Russian Armed Forces, supported by artillery and aviation, occupied important positions on the hills east of Severny. Similarly, it was possible to capture strongholds to the west, which worsens the position of the Ukrainian Armed Forces not only in Severny, but also in the south in Pervomaisky.
And we remind you that if Ukraine loses Avdiivka, Russian troops will enter operational space. Next are Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, plus left-bank Ukraine can be cut into two parts – two huge “cauldrons”. Therefore, the Ukrainian authorities are trying to save Avdiivka at any cost, transferring units there from other directions and exposing them. But the losses in manpower and the successes of the Russian Armed Forces in the Avdeevsky sector affect the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which simplifies the assault on the lines by Russian troops.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/20693

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 3 2023 12:37 utc | 262

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 3 2023 10:57 utc | 262
Who knows if real or if front line areas vs the wider swath that encompass those regions. If true, than if short lived I would weigh technical(not limited to just a SL snafu) much higher. It made a stir last time they lost ubiquitous sat comms at the fronts (for a day or more), so I would expect we’ll hear more if it lasts.

Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 3 2023 14:43 utc | 263

ld@204…..you’d let the pedo teach your kids….are you aware of his teaching past, indiscretion with a student, cost his Trust Fund $5mill.
Hourin’ yer kids out for a $$ bling bling pay day, the fucker should be in jail.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 3 2023 15:15 utc | 264

librul@203….Hamas is bound by the same oligarch rules of engagement as Russia. Firing into villages, attacking what? All guided missiles should have destroyed the Occupiers manufacturing and fuel depots. Crippled their industry, but counties like China are heavily vested with the development of the Occupiers, so Hamas is stuck, like Russia, pissing in the wind at tiny targets all the while having the capacity to cripple the economics of the enemy.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 3 2023 15:20 utc | 265

Peter AU1 ( Dec 2 2023 23:50 utc | 244 ):
Maybe the following will only serve as inspiration, I don’t know how easy it would be to make by oneself (if needed) but the Scandinavians love liver pâté. The page says they use pork liver but maybe that doesn’t really matter.
I hope you find or figure out something tasty and healthy 🙂
Ps.: eggs! Eggs are full of goodness too! I’ll stop there; I know real life is always much more complicated than “easy” answers on the internet, hope you find solutions that work.
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anon2020 ( Dec 3 2023 10:23 utc | 260 ):
Hearing anything about PD-100 Black Hornet (“Black Hornet Nano”) is indeed rare. The Ukrainians are supposed to have been given a lot of them (a four digit number iirc).
The Wikipedia page is outdated on various issues; afaik several years ago the company was sold or transitioned in some way to US production (and US “laws”) and many tens of thousands of these drones (or iterations of them) have been made in total.
There is now also (according to Wikipedia) a larger system in the works with three drones called “Black Recon”. It was news to me.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 3 2023 16:14 utc | 266

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 2 2023 14:22 utc | 201
Very sorry, indeed I forgot that one on the top of my list.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 3 2023 18:23 utc | 267

Criticism is always helpful if it is constructive and Putin has clearly made mistakes, see Minsk I+II.
Or see that problem Prigo,
Prigo already wanted to buy ammunition in the DPRK last December, at that time a NOGO in the Kremel. However, the ammunition supplied was probably too little and he was very unhappy thatswhy. Now after all the trouble, Russia is probably buying ammunition there. No criticism?
I see Putin differently now than I did before the war, but I’m not a Russian and my opinion is uninteresting in this point
Posted by: theo | Dec 3 2023 2:17 utc | 251

To be able to criticise someone, one must know all what this someone knows. Do you know as much as Putin, for instance?
Minsk 1 and 2 were not mistakes. Russia was not ready to fight against nato. Today it is.
Prigozhin was a liar and an oligarch making money from the prisoners and sending too many of them to their death for his own glory. He had plenty of weapons and ammunitions. It was blackmail. I don’t know who killed him, but I thank this person for having done it.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 3 2023 18:34 utc | 268

Posted by: rpst | Dec 2 2023 15:50 utc | 214
WTF was that ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Dec 3 2023 19:51 utc | 269

Posted by: Naive | Dec 3 2023 18:34 utc | 270

To be able to criticise someone, one must know all what this someone knows. Do you know as much as Putin, for instance?

We are now stopping any criticism against someone else because the other could possibly know more? What kind of argument is this? How old are you?
Normally I do not respond to such type of argument, it is always without result to answer there.

Minsk 1 and 2 were not mistakes. Russia was not ready to fight against nato. Today it is.

In 2014/15 and even today, Russia is not officially fighting against NATO and at that time Russia still had a stronger support in the Ukrainian population. Most of the officers and soldiers handed over their weapons or run away without a fight. Not all, but many. Now the Nato have soldiers there. In 2014, we would have never seen this horror show.

Prigozhin was a liar and an oligarch making money from the prisoners and sending too many of them to their death for his own glory. He had plenty of weapons and ammunitions.

In my argument, I do not defend Prigo. That’s not the topic, it’s a different topic.
Again Prigo wanted to buy/organize ammunition in North Korea at Dec.2022 – Feb.2023 it was not possible, today it is probably possible. Maybe no problem.
Is it true that he wanted to buy in North Korea and the Kremel said no? Yes or No?
Is it true that the Kremel is buying in in North Korea now? Yes or No?
You don’t need to answer the question here, but you can answer it for yourself. If you get 2 * yes, why all the bullshit in April to June?

It was blackmail.

What you talk about? Now have North Korea and Russia contact?
Why all this bullshit in April till June between S.K.Shoigu and Prigo, where have been Putin at this time?
When Prigo talked about dead soldiers, Ukrainians or Russians, he never laughed!

Posted by: theo | Dec 3 2023 22:09 utc | 270