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December 31, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2023-323

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This WSJ journo is staying at interesting places –>

Yaroslav Trofimov @yarotrof – 18:09 UTC · Dec 30, 2023

By now, seven hotels where I stayed and four restaurants where I had eaten in Ukraine have been struck by Russian missiles. Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Kramatorsk, Druzhkivka, Pokrovsk …


Other issues:

RIP:

2023:

Empire:

Europe:

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China:

> At the same time, as spending on China at the C.I.A. has doubled since the start of the Biden administration, the United States has sharply stepped up its spying on Chinese companies and their technological advances.

Though the U.S. intelligence community has long collected economic intelligence, gathering detailed information on commercial technological advances outside of defense companies was once the kind of espionage the United States avoided.

But information about China’s development of emerging technologies is now considered as important as divining its conventional military might or the machinations of its leaders. <

Use as open (not related to Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

@ SG | Jan 4 2024 10:16 utc | 199
Well ok, so I missed your ‘gripe’. Alright. I didn’t think that it was ‘always’ neocon/neolibs enforcing it. No. Which I think you see now. Good. But can I ask you a question? Why does it sound like you are saying/thinking that ‘multiculturalism’ is a bad thing/problem? Two questions – how on earth could multiculturalism anywhere undermine ‘democracy’ anyway? I just don’t get this ‘theory’ that you say the neocons/neolibs are pushing. ( basically I just don’t believe it), but, who knows what some people (pathological elites?) might think up these days. Maybe I am too cloistered? Living in a dreamland to see? I don’t know for certain..
Let’s face it, the bulk of Israeli zios / elites and citizens have gone completely mad the last few years, so I have to now admit anything is possible. It was bad before now it’s extremely psychopathic. The US is unhinged, and then there’s Ukraine and the weird stuff the europeans have been doing/thinking. ( Or am I the mad one? )

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 4 2024 12:19 utc | 201

– South Africa has formaly filed a “genocide” case against Israel with the International Court of Justice in The Hague, in the Netherlands and the israeli government has responded “aggressively”. Israel didn’t like this at all.
“Israel Accused of GENOCIDE By South Africa, US Kills Houthis in Red Sea; Rising Debates HAMAS RAPE”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HOcabr28U
“Debunking Israel’s Gross Response to Genocide Case”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSXSGLGAzwo

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 4 2024 13:37 utc | 202

Posted by: SG | Jan 4 2024 10:16 utc | 199
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Majority of gardenists are innately anti China Chinese.
If so called multiculturalism leads to a genocided withered garden, bring it on !
The world, especially the Chinese, would breathe easier.

Posted by: denk | Jan 4 2024 14:03 utc | 203

@ denk | Jan 4 2024 5:04 utc | 192
thanks denk! that link is a wall of ink! i think i need a drink!!

Posted by: james | Jan 4 2024 17:55 utc | 204

https://t.me/intelslava/54400

🇺🇲 The US continues to expand into Africa
According to The Wall Street Journal, the United States wants to use the airfields of several African countries to deploy its reconnaissance drones. We are talking about those countries that are located on the shores of the Atlantic Ocean – negotiations are currently underway with Ghana, Benin and Côte d’Ivoire.
The newspaper emphasizes that this is how the United States is trying to limit the spread of influence of Islamist militants in the region. Previously, the United States could control the region directly, through its own and French military contingents. However, after a series of military coups in Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso, the US position in central Africa was undermined, and French troops were ordered to clear out altogether.
“We really have no choice but to retreat and operate from the coastal West African states,” said Mark Hicks, former commander of US special operations forces in Africa.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 4 2024 18:34 utc | 205

Has anyone found or read about anything interesting in the Epstein file? It was sent to me in PDF last night but frankly I haven’t really cared to look at it.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 4 2024 20:16 utc | 206

Anon2020 @197 Thanks for WSJ video summary of anti-drone tactics. Amazing how lo-tech much of this is. Just like that, warfare has greatly changed.

Posted by: Pundita | Jan 4 2024 21:31 utc | 207

“Houthis launch sea drone to attack ships after US, allies issue final warning”. — AP News Jan 4, updated 4:27 PM. Drone got within “a couple miles” of a ship before it exploded. (Malfunction?)

Posted by: Pundita | Jan 4 2024 21:47 utc | 208

@Posted by: SG | Jan 4 2024 10:16 utc | 199
The Spanish adventurers were after gold and other wealth and power, driven by greed, shown very much by their actions. This was also in the contracts that they made with the sovereign. One of the very first ones was the annihilation of the indigenous population of Hispaniola. Then we have the mass forced labour of the indigenous population to produce gold and silver (e.g. Potosi) in horrific conditions, as well as generally support the invaders and occupiers. The invasion required the epidemic diseases to wipe out much of the population (up to 90% death rates), as the first attempts in Central America were thrown back. After they had wiped out much of the population in some areas, the Spanish and Portuguese brought in slaves from Africa. Pretty much the same MO as the East India Company, except the local population did not get wiped out from Eurasian diseases and was more developed.
Its all about claiming lebensraum and extracting wealth, while destroying the native culture and system of beliefs, just like the British in North America and Australia who were more settler colonists and brought over wives and children so did not procreate with the local population (the mestizos). South America is still generally ruled by the “whiter” colonial elites, Bolivia (the indigenous rule) and Argentina (hardly any indigenous left) being exceptions.
You want to be proud of these Europeans and admire their work. I see them as the logical precursors of the Nazi attempts at forging Germany’s own lebensraum with its ethnic cleansing and genocide (a repeat of what the Germans did in South West Africa), and the looting of gold, silver and other wealth. You cannot be proud of one and condemn the other, as Eurocentrism tries to do. They were like a plague circling the Earth, and it has taken six centuries for it to be abated and start to be pushed back. With the nations that resisted it being in the vanguard.
This is not “woke” history, it is a history not from the point of view of the victors and historians drawn from the idle rich. That is what history was until recently, the fact that you think that it became more dominant not because of the dominance of Europe shows your blindness. Such history, and misguided anthropology, is still practised. The current suite of Western academics who “study” the Uighur culture and claim that China is “genociding” it is quite representative in being used to support the policies of Empire, as well as being utterly ridiculous (I have read their books and critiqued them here).
So you want to be proud of the glory of Empire and accept the history as written by the victors. I do not, and the “revisionist” history that comes from generally non-European historians and generally more working class and socialist historians helps tilt the balance back to a more accurate rendition of history. Some excellent examples are “The Open Veins of Latin America” by Galeano and “American Holocaust” by Stannard but there are many, many more if you look.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:41 utc | 209

I decided to set myself up for later ridicule by making some predictions about A HREF=”https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/things-that-will-and-will-not-happen/”>what would and would not happen in 2024. No matter what, we will continue to live in “interesting times”.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:47 utc | 210

@Posted by: Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:47 utc | 210
So the one time I don’t do preview the link gets messed up, what will and would not happen in 2024

Posted by: Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:49 utc | 211

“Israel’s Strikes On Syria Stopped By Russian Air Defence Systems, Has Putin Changed Stand On Israel?” (???).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IVeSPGLl6c
Pantsir-S in Syria intercepted 10 bombs, 3 missiles shot by ‘Israel’ (???)
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/pantsir-s-in-syria-intercepted-10-bombs–3-missiles-shot-by
If this is true then it seems that we are moving more and more to a large(r) scale war in the Middle East. Perhaps this was a test to see how Syria and/or Hezbollah would react ?

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 5 2024 0:05 utc | 212

For the time being the situation in the Middle East seems to be getting from bad to worse. World War III in the making in the Middle East ???

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 5 2024 0:17 utc | 213

i think i need a drink!!
Posted by: james | Jan 4 2024 17:55 utc | 204
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I need a stiff one reading the CIA’S greatest hits….
THE SECRET WARS OF THE CIA: by John Stockwell

Ralph McGehee, who was in that area division, and had documents on his desk, in his custody about that operation. He said that one of the documents concluded that this was a model operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world. Not only did it eliminate the effective communist party (Indonesian communist party), it also eliminated the entire segment of the population that tended to support the communist party – the ethnic Chinese, Indonesian Chinese. And the CIA’s report put the number of dead at 800,000 killed. And that was one covert action. We’re talking about 1 to 3 million people killed in these things. [1987 Lecture]

Posted by: denk | Jan 5 2024 3:29 utc | 214

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 2 2024 18:45 utc | 115
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This wouldnt be the first, nor last gardenist who wax lyrical about the west’s fav ‘asiatic people’, aka jap the ‘honorable whites’ !
Not surprising really
We all know how gardenists love their canine dont we ?
hehehehe

Posted by: denk | Jan 5 2024 3:50 utc | 215

Somebody has something to hide ?
Even the ‘authorative’ Aviation Week agreed
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/missing-malaysian-plane-why-is-australia-silent-on-secret-radar-data-185404-2014-03-19
Posted by: denk | Jan 4 2024 3:21 utc | 188
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Turns out that there were TWO Air Sea war games running back to back and MH370 was flying right into the eye of storm !
Mathis Chang
Legal advisor to Dr Mahathir
NO closure
Let this be the last CIA wet job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHULzPKgnU
PS
I seldom do long vid, but this is worth it.

Posted by: denk | Jan 5 2024 4:47 utc | 216

@ Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:41 utc | 209
Superb! (and on the page before)
Please keep going and don’t stop in these subjects about history. TY

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 7:00 utc | 217

@ Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:41 utc | 209
Superb! Please keep going…
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 7:00 utc | 217
Agree 100%.
And thanks to both of you for being here.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 5 2024 7:12 utc | 218

Socialism with Russian specifics is an alternative for Russia
With its successes, the PRC demonstrates the advantages of an alternative socio-economic structure to liberal capitalism
12/11/2023 | Yuri TAVROVSKY
https://fondsk.ru/news/2023/12/11/socializm-s-rossiyskoy-specifikoy-alternativa-dlya-rossii.html

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jan 5 2024 13:33 utc | 219

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 2 2024 18:45 utc | 115
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Whats this much vaunted ‘shared values’ bet the jp and the gardenists ?
Anybody who cites ‘democracy’ is insulting his own intelligence.
How could jp, a veritable colony, invoke any idea of ‘democracy’ ?
As for USAss,
Kissinger’s comment on Chile leaps to mind….
To paraphrase,

I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country bristling with WMD run amok due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the world to be left to the gringo themselves.

Posted by: denk | Jan 5 2024 14:15 utc | 220

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 4 2024 5:17 utc | 193
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I’ve seen a shit load of trolls in my time, but this one really takes the cake. !
After all that thrashing at the bar, most would’ve scurried away by now.
Its sheer pigheadedness makes one wonder, is this the the pop’s day job ?

Posted by: denk | Jan 5 2024 14:58 utc | 221

Posted by: Roger | Jan 3 2024 6:03 utc | 143
@Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 3 2024 5:45 utc | 150
Yes, please research it thoroughly and then come and tell us all about the positive aspects 🙂
Only imperial apologists such as Niall Ferguson will be able to come up with positive aspects!

Well, count me as one, albeit not how you mean it.
I watched a Korean gangster movie last night and noticed how the highway signs are in both Korean and English – the case also all over the world and also with dress: the mobsters wear Western suits and ties as does Xi, the Japanese Emperor and most African Dictators who get their uniforms cut in Gieves & Hawkes on Savile Row.
Now one could argue this is all due to the evil rapaciousness of the City, the British Empire or Whites in general – as many barflies often do – but I find that an overly shallow view for there were not ONLY bad elements in the mix. There was a widespread sense of optimism in the early 1900s as the industrial revolution lifted off world wide inspiring both Russian Tzars and Japanese Emperors. Unfortunately this promise was ruined by the Bankster networks who had schemed for centuries, from Venice to Amsterdam to London and to King Charles’ severed head rolling off the chopping block so by the time the Industrial Revolution began transforming the entire world, a process still underway, their mercantilist, materialist fix was in. But there was a larger, aspirational vision at play as well.
Good and evil perpetually dance together in this human realm of ours, in each individual and collective. Materialism’s ‘objective’ view of history and culture is blind to non-material values such as good and evil and thus sadly lacking in humanistic depth.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 15:19 utc | 222

Posted by: SG | Jan 3 2024 23:20 utc | 180
Thank you for those corrections about Genghis. I muddled him and Kubla, I think. It’s been years since I read about this, but I believe that a probable future engagement with the Hungarian standing army never happened; it would almost certainly have resulted in a Mongol victory which might well have led to the later capitulation of Europe entire given that at that time the Russian and Hungarian armies were the most powerful and the former had already been defeated.
(Am trying to limit the length of my comments and sometimes chop too much away though that item about Ganghis was a genuine slip on my part!)

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 15:37 utc | 223

Posted by: SG | Jan 4 2024 0:10 utc | 182
@Roger | Jan 3 2024 20:44 utc | 173
Eurocentrism has been a bane of the History profession until relatively recently, and it pervades sites such as Wikipedia.

First, I appreciate these conversations about history with such knowledgeable interlocutors. Even though history is a treacherous minefield because it reflects the perspectives and prejudices of its authors. We find what we seek.
As a teenager I kept digging around for alternative histories not centered on a) Kings and Generals and b) the West so was already aware about Western Centric bias. To be fair, this is partly because prior to the Industrial Revolution most people never travelled far from home and each nation naturally regards itself as the Center of the World.
Now there is a neoliberal effort to undermine Western civilization so a different type of bias is in play which I find myself resisting. That doesn’t mean there isn’t still a Western-centric bias in most Western histories; in this thread someone mentioned how Western history had dominated the past 2,000 years which isn’t IMO true – except for for Westerners. (Again, there is no such thing as unbiased history.)
BTW: I think the Mongol Empire opened Asia up to later penetration after the Maritime Ban created a geopolitical power vacuum affecting all of world trade. That paper I linked recounts how there was endemic piracy all along the Chinese coast – with most of the population and commerce – for over a century resulting in general anarchy, which is far worse than war. This is rarely if ever mentioned in most ‘Kings & Generals’ style histories.
@roger: thanks for the Empire book recommendation.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 16:13 utc | 224

@Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:41 utc | 209

[…] You want to be proud of these Europeans and admire their work. I see them as the logical precursors of the Nazi attempts at forging Germany’s own lebensraum with its ethnic cleansing and genocide (a repeat of what the Germans did in South West Africa), and the looting of gold, silver and other wealth. You cannot be proud of one and condemn the other, as Eurocentrism tries to do. They were like a plague circling the Earth, and it has taken six centuries for it to be abated and start to be pushed back. With the nations that resisted it being in the vanguard.
This is not “woke” history, it is a history not from the point of view of the victors and historians drawn from the idle rich. […]

That is exactly woke history and it is extremely dangerous, because, instead of trying to understand what actually happens, it pushes a narrative that has little to do with the actual facts. As a consequence, that “history” does not teach, but indoctrinates and those indoctrinated by it are not able to recognize the preconditions of historical events in the making and to act accordingly.
Conflating the Spanish conquest of America with Nazism is totally misleading, almost to the point of being ridiculous, if it were not dramatically dangerous.
The Spaniards were primarily moved by sheer economic interests, they did not intend to generally genocide the natives and when the depopulation of the Caribbeans hurted their economic interests, they brought in slaves from Africa, again moved by sheer economic interests; when their economic interests were better served by war, they made war, when their economic interests were better served by peace, they made peace.
The Nazis pursued genocide even when that was against their own economic and strategic interests. Also, they were not interested into assimilate the others, heck, many German Jews were totally assimilated, but that did not spare them.
Others could make deals with the Spaniards and even live among them, if accepting assimilation; others could not make deals with the Nazis, nor live among them, even if totally assimilated, looking absolutely like other Germans, and, on top of that, useful to the German nation.
This is an enormous difference and it helps explaining, among other things, why the Spanish Empire lasted centuries, while the Nazi rule a little more than a decade.
The implications are too numerous and complex to be analysed here, so let’s move on to another, different, but still fundamental point of woke history.
Another prominent factoid of woke history is the idea that “genocidal” practices were and are somewhat peculiar of European culture. Those fateful and destructive events are as little the results of cultural convinctions, as much the results of material power. The Mongols did every bad thing the Spaniards did (including spreading deadly diseases), because they could: one of the main differences between them is that the Mongol empire crumbled after a few decades, while the Spanish/Portuguese/etc. empires lasted centuries with totally different cultural consequences and historical evidence. As a matter of facts collective punishment, extermination and deportation were common practices of every civilization. The Chinese had this practice of castrating the rebels’ young sons (and executing the older ones) and enslaving their women, as they did after their victories in Ling Shauangwen or Miao rebellions. And oftentimes these actions were justified by some sort of perceived cultural or ethnic superiority, again, a common sentiment of basically all nations, great and small. If you think it is a bad sentiment, then you have to be thankful to European colonialism, which effectively diluted this idea in so many peoples around the world. But this does not mean that non-European peoples were less inclined to the use of violence, or more humble with their own system of belief: generally, they were simply less powerful.
As a matter of fact, this revisionist, edgy, woke-flavoured history has been wrong more often than not, and it has been counterproductive to the study of history itself. Just to keep discussing about Spaniards and Americas, there is this great myth pushed by “The Man-Eating Myth” and its followers. According to those scammers, all the stories about cannibalism in Central America were Spanish propaganda and for decades all popular science and a good share of “serious” science ridiculed those evil white men who fabricated and, then, believed all those horror stories about cannibalism. Then archeological evidence confirmed, after 30 years of woke lamentations, the practice of cannibalism in old Central America and, on top of that, exactly where the Spanish sources put the worst offenders, among the Xiximes. Between edgy historians and Jesuits, experience taught that it is usually the Jesuits who are the most right. And that is a testament to how poor is edgy/novel/woke/politically-motivated science.

Posted by: SG | Jan 5 2024 16:49 utc | 225

“…one could argue this is all due to the evil rapaciousness of the City, the British Empire or Whites in general..” Scorpion
Does anyone argue that “whites in general” were behind the Empire? Anyone who does deserves to be ignored. One might almost say the same about The City. the truth is that both formulations reflect the deepseated fear in our NATOist cultures of being caught employing marxist language. There is, among intellectuals, a sense that when one mentions the existence, in history of ‘classes’ with differing interests and varying degrees of power, one is making a very dangerous, perhaps, in career terms, fatal move.
Of course the enormous profits of imperialism tended to trickle down through society. In England, even today, I imagine, all manner of houses have trinkets and ornaments collected in India or Malaya. What we cannot see is the real effect that Empire had on lowering living standards for the metropolitan majority- the Nabobs returning to England in the Eighteenth Century were among the most ruthless enclosers, investing their ill gotten gains in capitalist extractive agriculture, in both Ireland and the UK. And insisting that the behaviour that they had got away with India should become familiar to the native peasantry. It was not just the wealth that trickled down but the attitudes of those who had got rich quickly.
Nor is there any doubt in my mind that the appalling depth of the gulf between ‘castes’ in India soon became integrated into British society: the difference between classes was rationalised into attitudes akin to racism. In fact there was a sort of dialectic in which race and class prejudices grew stronger as each reinforced the other- and the end result was the inability of soldiers to recognise in the inmates of camps fellow human beings.
While I completely agree with those who stress the piratical instincts and greed lying at the basis of the empires and believe that it is impossible to exaggerate the criminality of, for example, the Dutch, the Belgians, the French, the British, the settler colonials, it is a fatal error, of the Identity Politics kind, to attribute the system to members of one ‘race’ or another.
The Black slaves in Virginia were, it was noted, in material circumstances no worse off than agricultural labourers in Wiltshire, or sharecroppers in County Cork or the Hebrides. As the Empire waxed the British people, literally, waned: dying younger, eating less. By the 1920s there was something like four inches difference between the height of a Public School boy and his working class contemporary. The rich were becoming as apparently differentiated from the poor as member of one race from another. They spoke languages just as different as those Russians and Ukrainians and lived and died in very different circumstances and at very different ages.
As to those who blame “The City”; or the multitudes who attribute all evil doing to a handful of families descended from the financiers of past centuries, they are no different. They cannot bring themselves to talk of class, and a ruling class in a system in which the exploitation of labour is a key component, so they dance around that horrifying (and unAmerican) term, with anything that they can find. They know, and some of them like Larouche knew very well, that talking of class can be a crowd killer in a population that has been marinated, stewed and finally soused in the sauce of anti-communism. So, instead they blame the bumbling and ineffectual King Charles, or the fifth generation after John D Rockefeller made it unnecessary for any of his descendants ever to work again, or that family of scholars, scientists and bores bearing the Rothschild family name. Or the Jews. Or the Anglos.
Meanwhile, looming behind all this trivial provincial nattering, is the monstrosity of a vast world system of exploitations all of them dependent upon the primary exploitative system which not only exploits 99% of humanity for the benefit of a few but mesmerises them into kissing the hand that picks their pockets.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 5 2024 16:59 utc | 226

SG | Jan 5 2024 16:49 utc | 225
The problem with genocide is that it is hard work. Without modern weapons, not to mention chemical and biological agents, it is simply impossible: how do you imagine the Mongols killed hundreds of thousands without their sword arms not dropping off?
Most of the figures used in history about battles and massacres are, happily, mythological. They signify what was intended rather than what was carried out.
As to cannibalism- it is the basis not of some long ago cultures in the obscurity of foreign jungles but of capitalism. In literal terms: show me a famine and I’ll show you a human being devoured by others.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 5 2024 17:06 utc | 227

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 4 2024 4:50 utc | 191
Why is it so impossible for you to simply say you do not know and the withhold judgement entirely? Until you actually know what you’re talking about!
…..What a weak Pussy!

Generally speaking, those who substitute childish insult for the free exchange of ideas project their own ignorance and aggression onto others; and when emotionally incontinent further compound their self-humiliation by barking out orders which they themselves would do well to follow. (‘Physician, heal thyself!’)
Though of course you, dear Dog, might well be an exception!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 17:19 utc | 228

Re the AIPAC/Epstein Honey Trap/Blackmail operations & two most trusted institutions
Surely the western intel community could easily share damning evidence of ALL those involved in human trafficking if they wanted to. Why don’t they? Are they all spineless cowards & traitors, not only to their nations – but to humanity?
Could it be that the vast majority of those in power in the west are swimming in big pools of luxurious excrement, and are actually servants of a several centuries old ruling elite – who have more billions than they can keep track of, who not knowing any better, view it as their duty to continue as their ancestors did for centuries by perpetuating wars, corruption, poverty, & mass deception – in order to stay in power?
Do they use endless wars, corrupt politicians, & Big Lies to keep the people fearful, brainwashed, dumbed down, self-medicated, divided & conquered — with many struggling to survive -and most people too disturbed & distracted to notice the ones behind the scenes, the ruling elite – who ARE in control, who want things to be like that, so they can hold on to power over us?
Apparently, 2,000 years ago – at the beginning of the era ending now most people in the west could not read. We were much more like herds of dumb animals who needed shepherds to control us. The shepherds worked thru/under the authority of the church & state – who were apparently controlled from behind the scenes by the ruling elite. Now we can see that their old systems are no longer working, despite their desperate denials of reality.
The western ruling elite’s operations were surely much easier & simpler for their ancestors – back when 99+% of the people were unthinking illiterates, much more emotional, gullible, & herdlike, than now. Waaay back when most people were unable to share their thoughts, observations, & video recordings of current events instantly with people all over the world.
2) The West’s two most powerful & trusted institutions (church & state) are apparently the least trustworthy & most corrupt of all. They both stand on corrupt foundations of Big Lies. All structures, physical or not, built on corrupt foundations eventually collapse.
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In stark contrast to the methods of the western ruling elite – the leaders of China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela & other’s leaders are known to be perpetual students of philosophy, who value the ‘greater good’, integrity, truth, compassion, tolerance, justice, & diplomacy above all – and are therefore viewed as severe threats to the “National Security” of the ruling elite, whose most ranking servants are like a handpicked herd of creatures, apparently too ignorant, conceited, & power drunk to see the truth of the matter.
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What can be done to make things better? How can we build a new country/world?
New system:
Should we abolish the present political system & replace it with a new super transparent system – designed to prevent corruption, to constantly be improved?
Make the Accounts of All Agencies, Contractors, & Employees: 100% Transparent, so anyone can see all Correspondence, Accounts & Records, online anytime. Stiff prison sentences & asset confiscation as consequence of corruption.
Only high integrity people commited to serving the people will find that acceptable. It’s a way to end corruption… a way to shut down the mafia state!
Should the Roman Catholic Church get a Class Action Law Suit for removing Origin’s teachings on Reincarnation & Karma from the bible (553 AD), for killing millions of women (during the crusades)- effectively ending wholesome, gender balanced leadership in the west, & for telling many Big Lies, that have kept Christians in the dark for ~1400 years⁉ Apparently the Emporer Justinian realized that if the people knew about reincarnation/karma, that it would lead to a loss of government control. If people knew they had multiple lives they would not submit to the church/government & would have no fear of death.
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Force without wisdom falls of its own weight. Horace
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“We must drag the machinations of the powerful into the daylight for all to see… we must be unapologetic about that most basic need of humanity – the desire to know.” – Julian Assange, Jan 2014
PS to those who view the situation as hopeless, who think/say that things will never change — I say either: you have been brainwashed and are
exactly where the bastards want you to be – regardless of whose side you think you are on.

Posted by: Toby C | Jan 5 2024 17:53 utc | 229

Posted by: SG | Jan 5 2024 16:49 utc | 225
@Roger | Jan 4 2024 23:41 utc | 209

[…] You want to be proud of these Europeans and admire their work. I see them as the logical precursors of the Nazi attempts at forging Germany’s own lebensraum with its ethnic cleansing and genocide (a repeat of what the Germans did in South West Africa), and the looting of gold, silver and other wealth. You cannot be proud of one and condemn the other, as Eurocentrism tries to do. They were like a plague circling the Earth, and it has taken six centuries for it to be abated and start to be pushed back. With the nations that resisted it being in the vanguard.
This is not “woke” history, it is a history not from the point of view of the victors and historians drawn from the idle rich. […]

That is exactly woke history and it is extremely dangerous, because, instead of trying to understand what actually happens, it pushes a narrative that has little to do with the actual facts. As a consequence, that “history” does not teach, but indoctrinates and those indoctrinated by it are not able to recognize the preconditions of historical events in the making and to act accordingly.

This is a valuable discussion and thank you for engaging despite ostensible disagreements. All histories disagree with each other because all express partial points of view. But it is helpful to compare and consider such different perspectives.

The Spaniards were primarily moved by sheer economic interests, they did not intend to generally genocide the natives and when the depopulation of the Caribbeans hurted their economic interests, they brought in slaves from Africa, again moved by sheer economic interests; when their economic interests were better served by war, they made war, when their economic interests were better served by peace, they made peace.

Here I interject my favorite Admiral He and Maritime Ban thesis: once the world opened up after the former’s sharing of charts with full longitude and latitude, and once the latter Ban left a power vacuum in world maritime trade between Suez and Beijing, Western enterprises (probably from old Jewish trading houses) ‘discovered’ the Orient where they also learned that Europeans had absolutely nothing of value to sell to the more civilized and technologically advanced Indian and Chinese civilizations. However, once they found gold and silver (partly thanks to Colombus having one of those maps, though he was NOT the first in the 1400s) then they had something (money) to trade with in Asia. The more gold they got from the Americas, the more money they could make in Madrid, Lisbon, Amsterdam and London and, later, New York and San Francisco. (See Gunder Frank’s ReOrient: Global Economy in the Asian Age)

The Mongols did every bad thing the Spaniards did (including spreading deadly diseases), because they could: one of the main differences between them is that the Mongol empire crumbled after a few decades, while the Spanish/Portuguese/etc. empires lasted centuries with totally different cultural consequences and historical evidence.

A book I read long ago disagrees about the ‘few decades’ in that Genghis’ prime motivation was to create international Law preventing War and divide-and-conquer exploitation such as his people endured under Chinese domination for centuries. Once a nation surrendered, a Khan was put in place and The Law put into effect and most of these nations kept that Law for several centuries, not a few decades, presumably because it was an effective system of Law and Governance. I just searched: http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/mongols-sup.htm . Supposedly lists the Rules of Law. Only 22 points, hmmm….

The Chinese had this practice of castrating the rebels’ young sons (and executing the older ones) and enslaving their women, as they did after their victories in Ling Shauangwen or Miao rebellions. And oftentimes these actions were justified by some sort of perceived cultural or ethnic superiority, again, a common sentiment of basically all nations, great and small. If you think it is a bad sentiment, then you have to be thankful to European colonialism, which effectively diluted this idea in so many peoples around the world.

Well said, especially about ‘all nations’ which is true, and you could add to the last sentence ‘and almost succeeded in stamping out the worldwide traffic in human slaves.’
That said, Tristam Shandy, the solo sailor, wrote of being press-ganged into the lower decks when still a boy. His was the last generation to whom that happened barely more than a century ago. What sort of social order countenanced such treatment? Where were individual rights? What was it like being a miner’s child forced to work underground twelve hours a day? Was this racism or classism or greed or? Whatever the causes we can name there was a worldview, a mindset, an over-arching cultural context fostering such behaviours which we now have a hard time understanding because we see through different eyes.
The human realm is plastic and wide-ranging. Plastic because there is so much continuous change and wide-ranging because there is no end of shared and individual heavens and hells we fashion together in this collective Dream called ‘Life’.
The problem with ‘woke’ history as you are describing it is that all history is story and all story reflects a particular perspective and no perspective includes all perspectives and thus all stories are partial. So we are left with doing what we can within the frame of our own particular level of learning and wisdom. For if nothing else, each human life is some sort of exercise in lifelong learning, indeed perhaps learning is all we ultimately do from cradle to grave.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 18:21 utc | 230

Ray McGovern (former CIA analyst):
– The US and Jordan are training “moderate insurgents” to overthrow the syrian govenment of Bashir Al Assad. This happens in the US military base of Al Tanf (Al Tans ???) in (eastern ???) Syria.
-This makes another story (more) credible. Scott Ritter (former UN weapons inspector) claims that some 10.000 ukrainian radicals were transported to Canada (and the UK ???) to be trained for the next battle in the Ukraine (???).

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 5 2024 18:21 utc | 231

Posted by: bevin | Jan 5 2024 16:59 utc | 226
“…one could argue this is all due to the evil rapaciousness of the City, the British Empire or Whites in general..” Scorpion
Does anyone argue that “whites in general” were behind the Empire? Anyone who does deserves to be ignored. One might almost say the same about The City. the truth is that both formulations reflect the deepseated fear in our NATOist cultures of being caught employing marxist language. There is, among intellectuals, a sense that when one mentions the existence, in history of ‘classes’ with differing interests and varying degrees of power, one is making a very dangerous, perhaps, in career terms, fatal move.

Thank you for another of your excellent comments. I have to go over to my recently built English Joiners Table to work on a piece of furniture for my wife, a labour of true love (even though I am still learning the basics of woodworking in preparation for building most of the storage furniture for our new house, now almost ready to move into).
As you know, I have views about class having more to do with how we view and discuss it. Here, I do find myself at odds with marxist formulations and perspective because I feel they narrow things down overmuch and in so doing wipe out large areas that are essential in human experience, both individual and collective. That said, I often find much of what you say about these matters deeply interesting and, though we often disagree, value them greatly. Maybe later today I can offer a brief comment on class that you might find of interest but meanwhile I again recommend Perry Worsthorne’s book about ‘why democracy needs aristocracy’, which you can get online if you know where to look. (He died a couple of years ago so am sure won’t mind!) In a way it echoes what SG said above about how multiculuralism may be fine in extended multi-ethnic empires but weakens individual nation states, especially democratic ones. I would add, if he didn’t already, that this seems a deliberate strategy used for nefarious purposes, moreover that critics of this often attribute marxist leaning to those perpetrating this civilizational destruction. Whether fair a reaction or not, this as, as I am sure you are aware, a VERY big issue and one which needs more mutually respectable debate in the public square.
Which might also bring us back to the conspiratorial business which you deplore – often for good reasons, though I think there is also some merit in them.
No easy answers. Anyway, later…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 18:36 utc | 232

this as, as I am sure you are aware, a VERY big issue and one which needs more mutually respectable debate in the public square.
Should read:
this IS, as I am sure you are aware, a VERY big issue and one which needs more mutually respectFUL debate in the public square.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 18:38 utc | 233

@Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 15:37 utc | 223
No problem. Despite my writing style, there is no animosity at the basis of my comments.
The fact is that the Golden Horde, a leftover of the Mongol empire, invaded again Hungary some 40 years after the first invasion, and it was handily beaten.
Bela IV, after being taken off-guard by the Mongol attack (it is thought that Bela was not able to properly organize his forces before the invasion), prepared his country against a new invasion. In particular, while Hungary was a quite cohesive kingdom with an agile and well prepared field army, its cities were protected mainly by wooden palisades and moats, like those of Rus’, and its population was small: the Mongols conquered most of those cities, but they were reportedly much less succesful against the few stone forts they found (including those where Bela took refuge). The cities of Germany, Italy and France were protected by formidable stone defences, had troops specialized in the defence of cities (e.g. crossbowmen), and had much larger populations: Hungary had about 2 million inhabitants, Italy 10 or more, France even more. An invading army stuck in a long siege is a sitting duck for a relief army (as it happened to the Turks at Vienna).

@Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 4 2024 12:19 utc | 201
Multicultural societies tend to fracture along ethnic lines. This weakens class cohesion and favours the grip of the ruling class over its subordinates. This is especially effective when you inject cultures which greatly favours religious or tribal bonds over class bonds. Democracy works if differences of opinion can be worked out; the push for cultural relativism (inclusivity, diversity) in a multicultural society deepens these differences, instead, and makes them desireable for a good share of the population, thus deteriorating the efficiency of a democratic rule.

@bevin | Jan 5 2024 17:06 utc | 227

As to cannibalism- it is the basis not of some long ago cultures in the obscurity of foreign jungles but of capitalism. In literal terms: show me a famine and I’ll show you a human being devoured by others.

Of course. It is actually cultural cannibalism that is truly interesting (including capitalist cannibalism).

Posted by: SG | Jan 5 2024 18:42 utc | 234

[You may wish to consider an earlier iteration]
Sir Edward Carson (1854-1935) leader of the Ulster Unionist faction,1912-14. “The mentality of the Ulster leaders at this time reveals certain almost pathological traits. Their attitude to history showed an extreme alienation from reality; their attitude to the present was a combination of persecution mania with delusions of grandeur. –G. Costigan”

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jan 5 2024 19:46 utc | 235

willow #59 Palestine 01-05 thread
Quibble. The 500,000 dead children happened in the interim of GW1 and GW2. Starved. Killary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Allbright.
Still the slaughter of GW2 was all based on vile lies of non-existant WMD and 10’s of millions were devastated world wide, maybe hundreds. I do not know how many millions of Iraqis died as a result of that war. The negative fall out economically for the usOfa of the skewing of economy to war, wounded vets, opioid crisis (really blossomed during Bush Admin, crap VA and vets with a lot of pain). etc. etc.
It is a shame that more did not have the fortitude of Scott. Myself, I self-exiled to Canada and washed hands of usOfa.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Jan 5 2024 20:08 utc | 236

b — How are you doing with the drone you told us about receiving six months or so ago? If you have actually had any spare time to use it, has it given you any insights into drone warfare? After reading about your drone I went and bought a smaller version. I’m having fun with it but the hardest part is editing the videos.

Posted by: Chas | Jan 5 2024 20:13 utc | 237

The anarchist Year in Review.
https://crimethinc.com/2023/12/29/2023-the-year-in-review-a-world-on-the-brink

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 5 2024 21:59 utc | 238

I watched a Korean gangster movie last night and noticed how the highway signs are in both Korean and English – the case also all over the world and also with dress: the mobsters wear Western suits and ties as does Xi, the Japanese Emperor and most African Dictators who get their uniforms cut in Gieves & Hawkes on Savile Row.
Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 16:13 utc | 224
So what Scorpion is saying, is 1) he likes Korean movies for historical insights and 2) in between enslaving and slaughtering millions in a global colonial tyranny for 400 plus years the British were astute enough to introduce improved Dress Codes and English language Street Signs to the teaming masses of Asia.
Kudos to the British!
My request to B …. please could you insist Scorpion writes his inauthentic and inaccurate opinionated Ideological Diatribes which Spams these pages somewhere else, like Substack, and then only links to them from here?
After a browser crash on my pc, I have reinstalled the add-on and reapplied the Ignore function to Scorpion’s endless spam posts. I will only tidy up a few of the outstanding responses and then drop it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 22:18 utc | 239

for @Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 4 2024 12:19 utc | 201
quote by SG | Jan 5 2024 18:42 utc | 234
Multicultural societies tend to fracture along ethnic lines. This weakens class cohesion and favours the grip of the ruling class over its subordinates. This is especially effective when you inject cultures which greatly favours religious or tribal bonds over class bonds. Democracy works if differences of opinion can be worked out; the push for cultural relativism (inclusivity, diversity) in a multicultural society deepens these differences, instead, and makes them desireable for a good share of the population, thus deteriorating the efficiency of a democratic rule.

Still there is zero evidence that neocons/neoliberals are intentionally driving multiculturalism for the purposes you claimed earlier. But that’s ok, really, don’t worry about it.
Because I am not going to argue this issue. But will add a couple of ‘useful’ points, for general knowledge.
The above is your interpretation based upon the (limited/biased) knowledge you have and other natural human biases and default ideology personal values (we all have and which vary.) OK? So that’s fine and natural, and is not a personal criticism of you.
Now, this knowledge of yours is known as “cherry-picked” and not all encompassing. eg Saying “Multicultural societies tend to fracture along ethnic lines.” is NOT a universal truth. imo it’s a narrow casted view of recent history only. But in many cases this is true. But you cannot presume in any cultural / social or empire breakup situations that “multiculturalism” is the CAUSE of the fracturing itself!
This is imo the greatest error of thinking. (though there are others including lacking some historical insights)
The opposite is also true … Multicultural societies tend to BIND ACROSS ethnic lines and become stronger!
Today and in the past.
The ETHNIC GREEKS of the Ottoman empire played a coherent critical role in the success of that massive MULTICULTURAL Empire for 400 hundred years. As did other ethnic groups in society and in powerful levels of the Ottoman Government and Military systems. Ever heard of the Roman and Chinese empires?
Or how the ETHNIC Natives of the Indian subcontinent enabled the successful management and control of the 300 million plus teaming masses with a tiny military force and economic controls for over 400 years as well?
BY ONLY focusing on any remnant ethic conflicts during the break up towards the end of that empire (including wars to achieve partial Greek national independence in the 1800s – and what happened in Smyrna in the 1920s ) is a disservice to the historical facts and totally distorts the extent of and the VALUE of Multiculturalism to solidify cultural COHESION in a nation or empire, past and present!.
The examples of which there are literally hundreds – IF you looked for them!
It is not my (nor Roger’s) job to educate you or Scorpion better — and as I said I am not going to argue about this matter. Believe whatever you wish. Seriously, don’t worry about it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 22:49 utc | 240

I’ve seen a shit load of trolls in my time, but this one really takes the cake. !
After all that thrashing at the bar, most would’ve scurried away by now.
Its sheer pigheadedness makes one wonder, is this the the pop’s day job ?
@ denk | Jan 5 2024 14:58 utc | 221
Yes, painful. I dread the possibility of being parked in an old age nursing home next to a know it all obsessive ideologue who never shuts up, like Scorpion. I tell you I’d happily get done for ‘murder’ within a few weeks just to get away, if I couldn’t find a way to top myself!

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 22:57 utc | 241

@ bevin | Jan 5 2024 16:59 utc | 226
All well and good, sure, but it does not change the fact that all of it is based upon racism and of possessing a self-anointed supremacy in all things.
Scorpion is no different – a raving Racist. Why bother?
In a decent world he would be universally condemned and shunned.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 23:18 utc | 242

this IS, as I am sure you are aware, a VERY big issue and one which needs more mutually respectFUL debate in the public square.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 18:38 utc | 233

When you are actually capable of such a ‘respectful debate’ get back to us.
Racist ‘Sea-Lioning’ trolls need not apply. 🙂
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 23:24 utc | 243

COPIED over from the Ukraine thread —
@ canuck | Jan 5 2024 14:18 utc | 211
@ Refinnejenna | Jan 5 2024 11:35 utc | 189
What you are really saying above is that Japan invaded China simply because it was there. And for no other reason. iow Japan had nothing better to do at the time.
You might believe that ‘canuck’ and ‘Refinnejenna’, however ………… (I don’t repeat myself)
“Christianity” the same
“Japan wanted a seat at the same table as those powers.” It would really help matters if you paid attention to what I wrote before replying…………. (I don’t repeat myself)
But I will add in some more history.

First Sino-Japanese War, conflict between Japan and China in 1894–95 that marked the emergence of Japan as a major world power and demonstrated the weakness of the Chinese empire. The war grew out of conflict between the two countries for supremacy in Korea. Korea had long been China’s most important client state, but its strategic location opposite the Japanese islands and its natural resources of coal and iron attracted Japan’s interest. In 1875 Japan, which had begun to adopt Western technology, (Japan) forced Korea to open itself to foreign, especially Japanese, trade and to declare itself independent from China in its foreign relations.
Japan soon became identified with the more radical modernizing forces within the Korean government, while China continued to sponsor the conservative officials gathered around the royal family.
https://www.britannica.com/event/First-Sino-Japanese-War-1894-1895

There were serious conflicts between Japan and Korea from 1931 which eventually culminated in the 1937 invasions of China after Japan being repeated BLOCKED by US actions (Roosevelt since 1933) across the Pacific and Asia.
I little dose of history – Koreans saw themselves (and still do) as culturally, intellectually, historically and characteristically superior to the lower class less enlightened worker grade ‘rough heads’ of Japanese people. For centuries they had resented each other and had negative opinions about each other. Much like the Greeks and the Turks, or the Turks and the Armenians. 🙂
A little note for ‘canuck’ the Han Chinese empires were always MULTICULTURAL enterprises including inside the Palace. Even in the original Qin dynasty. 🙂

A study of the effect of the United States’ economic sanctions against Japan
must begin by analyzing the United States’ attitudes toward Japan’s expan-
sion in Asia. As early as 1905, when President Theodore Roosevelt brokered
the peace ending the Russo-Japanese War, the United States had [PARANOID self-interest] suspicions of
Japan’s intentions in the region.3 Roosevelt commissioned the development of a
strategy to curb potential Japanese expansionism [ SEE China US relations in the 21st century for comparisons]. Created by Admirals George
Dewey and Alfred Thayer Mahan, this strategy became known as [PARANOIA] War Plan
Orange and rested on the ability of the United States to economically isolate
the island nation before striking a decisive military blow.
While the 1920s saw
refreshing peace and cooperation between Japan and the Allied nations, rela-
tions became strained again as the [1930s] global Great Depression forced nations to
pursue isolationist, protectionist economic and foreign policy.4
Losing trading
partners thrust Japan into economic trouble, which then led to a domestic
resurgence of nationalism. Once again, Japan looked to [was forced to] conquer, and War Plan
Orange returned to relevance. According to historian Edward Miller, with the
Great War still fresh in every American’s mind, and perhaps with just a touch
of optimistic self-delusion, “the helplessness of Japan, if isolated economically
and financially, evolved into an axiom at a time when the U.S. government was
averse to fighting a war.”
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=thetean

Same as today with China – Paranoid Delusions projected onto China, coupled with more serious Delusions of Grandeur and racist superiority within America.

In the late nineteenth century, Japan’s economy began to grow and to industrialize rapidly. Because Japan has few natural resources, many of the burgeoning industries had to rely on imported raw materials, such as coal, iron ore or steel scrap, tin, copper, bauxite, rubber, and petroleum. Without access to such imports, many of which came from the United States or from European colonies in southeast Asia, Japan’s industrial economy would have ground to a halt. By engaging in international trade, however, the Japanese had built a moderately advanced industrial economy by 1941.
https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=1930

Note the term and concept of : Japan was Forced to …………….. (I won’t repeat myself further)
This kind of Historical Information is literally everywhere and accessible.
Simply because Japan eventually took kinetic actions to secure critically needed natural resources does not in itself substantiate American Paranoia when it was the very acts of America that forced Japan to act in it’s own self-interest.
It does not mean that America was always RIGHT – far from it – [because the USA] were actually the direct cause of Japan’s Rational Realist Response, in China, in Asia, and in Pearl Harbour.
(A rare perspective yet a true one. I am not saying Japan is innocent either, so please do not put words in my mouth. Cpaitalist Greed is Capitalist Greed and Selfishness no matter what Race is doing it. But no one Nation operates in a Vacuum either! See Russia. )
Similarly IF China does eventually use military force to reunite Taiwan with the mainland this does not me that America was either right or justified to FEAR such an action occurring in the future.
People who do NOT know their American and Asian History should be silent and ask people who do. (smiling)
Of course people have the right to believe whatever they want. Especially in Fantasyland America.
How America Got Divorced from Reality: The Chronology of Crazy in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XirnEfkdQJM
Enjoy, it’s a great little summary of reality.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 0:26 utc | 237

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 0:41 utc | 244

Another response to a Off-topic COPY from the Ukraine sitrep thread

This is such a comically ignorant summation of what was going on that I really feel like it should be ignored, but you new generations of Millennials and those that follow are just getting dumber and dumber w/r/t just about everything, so:….
AND
Read more books, child, and stop getting your historical awareness from der intertubes.
@ Pacifica Advocate | Jan 5 2024 10:56 utc | 189

RE @ Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 9:32 utc | 184
About @ Pacifica Advocate | Jan 5 2024 9:10 utc | 179
I am not a “Millennial” so you Pacifica Advocate are are the only “comically ignorant” one, and the only insulting creep here.
Plus ignorant of the actual complex History as well. A Triple Play – well done, without even trying.
So thanks for nothing! It’s time to file you on the Ignore Cabinet with Scorpion et al.
It’s where all the overly opinionated and verbose Not Knowers eventually end up. 🙂
Your ‘historical data summaries’ are partially accurate, but other parts are seriously flawed and inaccurate presumptions while your conclusions mostly garbage; as are your flawed MIND READING attributes of other people on these pages.
But of course believe whatever you wish. It’s your head, so you get to decide what goes in and out of it.
Your basic reading comprehension is close to 2 out of 10; and your attitude ranks a Zero.
In my humble opinion.
LD

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 1:01 utc | 245

The US progressively tightens a decade/s long noose around Japan’s throat – forcing it to act kinetically.

From Freeze to Fire
How Economic Sanctions against Japan
Led to the War in the Pacific

extract pg 4
Japan expressed its rediscovered aggression by seizing Manchuria in 1931. Six
years later, in July 1937, Japan launched an invasion of mainland China. This
was met with strong opposition by both the citizens and the government of
the United States. Since 1899, the United States had pursued the Open Door
Policy in regards to China, allowing all nations equal access to Chinese mar-
kets. [How magnanimous of the Outlaw US Empire to “allow” that! ]

Hoping to respond to Japan’s violation of this policy [WTF ?], Roosevelt considered
economic sanctions as a valuable mechanism by which to strangle Japanese
imperial ambitions. In his famous “Quarantine Speech” given on October 5,
1937, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt declared that certain countries–left
unnamed but clearly referring to Japan, Germany, and Italy6–had generated
“international anarchy and instability from which there is no escape through
mere isolation or neutrality.”7 “When an epidemic of physical disease starts to
spread,” Roosevelt said, “the community approves and joins in a quarantine of
the patients in order to protect the health of the community against the spread
of the disease.” In this context, the “quarantine” meant economic actions which
left Japan isolated
.

International relations leading up to 1937 puts FDR’s desire to resort to eco-
nomic means
into context. While the United States was not a member of the
League of Nations, Japan was, and Article 16 of the League of Nations charter
discusses “the prevention of all financial, commercial or personal intercourse
between the nationals of the covenant-breaking State . . .”8 This meant that
any member nation which broke the covenants of the League of Nations (i.e.
engaged in warfare with another member state) were to be economically and
financially isolated. While this was not legally binding for any actions between
the United States and Japan, it reflects the readiness of countries at the time
to use economic tools to regulate the policies of rogue nations. It established
a precedent of economic isolation on an international scale, even after Japan
left the League of Nations in 1933
. Additionally, in 1935 and again in 1937, the
United States enacted Neutrality Acts which restricted trade to nations on
either side of a war.9 Merchants who wished to trade with these countries were
required to attain licenses from the US Department of State
. According to these
acts, the president had certain leeway in what was and was not labelled “war.”
The United States’ first economic moves against Japan began with what were
called “moral embargos.” Between 1937 and 1938, exports of U.S. airplanes to
Japan increased dramatically, and spectators suspected that the Japanese were
using these planes to bomb China. Because the Neutrality Acts forbade trade
with countries on both sides of a war, Secretary of State Cordell Hull knew that
declaring Japan’s actions “war” would probably hurt China more than it hurt
Japan
.
Instead, he ordered the Department of State in mid-1938 to discourage
U.S. airplane manufacturers from selling to Japan. Entirely extralegal and non-
binding
, this “moral embargo” succeeded in slowing the flow of airplanes to
Japan; however, by this time, Japan had already stockpiled enough planes for
itself that the action had little effect.10 This was repeated again in 1939 with a
moral embargo on the metals aluminum, magnesium, and molybdenum, to
similar effect.
The tensions between Japan and the United States became even more com-
plicated on September 27, 1940, when Japan signed the Tripartite Pact with
Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy
. This treaty obligated the powers to support one
another in the event of war with non-Pact nations. American officials feared
that this could lead the United States into war with Japan, as the United States
had already shown substantial support to Britain and France in the face of the
European Axis powers. At least one Japanese official, however, had a different
opinion. Japanese Foreign Minister Yosuke Matsuoka stated on September 19,
1940, while considering a draft of the Tripartite Pact, that he thought sign-
ing the Pact would cause the United States to “stiffen temporarily, . . . [but
then] recover a level-headed attitude; of course, the chances are fifty-fifty as to
whether it will stiffen more and more, leading to a more critical situation. . . .”11
And “stiffen” America did. The moral embargos on airplanes and metals
were ineffective because Japan had been able to stockpile those goods ahead of
time or supply itself through other means. Embargos on scrap ferrous materi-
als were enacted on September 26 1940
in response to Japan’s alliances with the Axis
powers and to Japan’s attack on French Indochina; this embargo “pinched but
did not retard Japan’s aggressive policies,”12 because Japan had the capability of
diverting scrap metal from civilian to military production. One good that Japan
could not supply for itself, however, was oil, and Japan was California’s largest
foreign consumer of petroleum
.13 The Roosevelt administration thought that [ AGGRESSIVELY ]
squeezing Japan’s oil supply could finally end Japan’s aggressive expansion.
In 1941, after months of failed negotiations, the administration began to draft an
executive order that would freeze all Japanese assets in the United States, [ JUST LIKE RUSSIA’S HAVE ]
with the intent of stopping Japanese purchases of Californian oil. But unlike the
previous economic actions taken against Japan, this move required additional
political justification. When the United States had restricted the trade of other
goods to Japan, the United States could reasonably justify the sanctions by say-
ing that the country needed to conserve those goods for national security. Oil,
however, was in abundant supply in California. In order to justify the financial
freeze and the blockage of oil to Japan, FDR exploited false public perceptions
of the United States’ national resources.
Under the Neutrality Act (which was again updated in 1939), a warring
nation could still trade with the United States as long as it paid in cash and
carried the goods away in its own ships
. This system was called “cash-and-carry,”
and greatly favored Britain and France, who each had large shipping fleets and
reserves of dollars and gold. On March 11, 1941, the United Kingdom was fur-
ther aided by the passage of the Lend-Lease Act, which allowed the United
Kingdom to borrow U.S. tankers to ship oil across the Atlantic. Government
advisers stated that this could potentially cause shortages on the East Coast, and
Secretary of Interior Harold L. Ickes publicly called for a gasoline reduction in
the eastern states. FDR used this to his political advantage. In a speech in New
York City on July 24 1941, FDR stated that East Coast citizens should be outraged
that they were asked to cut gasoline consumption while Japan received near-
endless oil
from the West Coast. According to FDR, “we are helping Japan in
what looks like an act of aggression.”
14
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=thetean

“Things change, but they don’t really change” and
“The less things change, the more they remain the same.”
Sicilian Proverb (smiling)
Y’all know exactly where Gaza and Taiwan and the Ukraine are heading

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 2:08 utc | 246

I suspect what impressed the RoW during Western Civilization’s height was not its cruel rapaciousness but its brilliant confidence as exemplified by the many pioneer types it encountered – which you call ‘Order’, its vision of how large societies could operate both efficiently and grandly. As you mentioned, the Japanese – not without their own grandeur and arrogance – saw something worth voluntarily adopting as their own.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 2 2024 23:59 utc | 127
—————–
grandeur and arrogance
That’d be two shared values bet jp and gardenists, but how could you miss out their signature characteristic,…
predatory ?
The sword wielding samurai were vanquished by a more powerful invader,with guns and cannons.
Thats a wake up call for the jp, who plunged into a furious modernisation frenzy , eventually rising up to be an industrial and military powerhouse in their own right, sharing a table with the garden itself
From the ENA TO the G7, a brotherhood made in heaven., or hell ,depending on your perspective.
G7 call themselves the coalition of democracies.
Row see it as a pack of hyenas .
[Not leopards, nor tigers, those magnificent cats never hit below the belts , unlike hyenas]

Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 2:21 utc | 247

^^^^^
The fluid easily adjustable ‘Rules Based International Order’, to suit changing circumstances and US wants and needs, is much older than you all thought it was.
Isn’t it just! 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 2:22 utc | 248

The supreme irony !
G6 + jp + MOngolia to contain the Han yellow peril, is a sick joke ,
only the garden with its centuries old culture of deceit could conjure up such nonsense.
Classic Bandits crying robbery
Hell,
The phrase yellow peril was originally coined specifically for the Mongols.
jp would be the second YP
The Hans suffered greatly at the hand of this twin terror and their gardenists comrades.
Today, FUKUS would be the Mongol creed’s worthy flag bearer.

Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 2:31 utc | 249

The Chinese had this practice of castrating the rebels’ young sons (and executing the older ones) and enslaving their women, as they did after their victories in Ling Shauangwen or Miao rebellions. And oftentimes these actions were justified by some sort of perceived cultural or ethnic superiority, again, a common sentiment of basically all nations, great and small.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 18:21 utc | 230
——————-
How pathetic, DESperate more likely !
pop and his mate sg spent the last 24 hrs to dig up this coup de grace,
wiki account of an alleged crime in the Ming dynasty.
Those evil Hans, !
if this is the best you can do, the paymaster aint getting their monies worth
True or not, its a moot point.
The Hans has come a long way since the Ming dynasty, they’ve evolved , like most others.
Can we say the same about the garden, FUKUS in particular ?
How about your soul mate , the jp, who have been menacing the Hans ever since samurai pirates terrorised Chinese coastal towns during the Ming ?
As per P N I, FUKUSA aka AUKUS might be upgraded to JAUKUS soon !
Wow, thats some honorable whiteman !
Bear in mind that even Canada under Trudeau the frenchie, NZ under the jew Acinda never made it to that prestigious
anglo club, FUKUSA !

Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 2:55 utc | 250

@Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 2:55 utc | 250
Jacinda Arden was raised LDS (Mormon), it doesn’t help to libel people.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 6 2024 3:01 utc | 251

Posted by: Roger | Jan 6 2024 3:01 utc | 251
——————-
Lots of people call Jacinda a Jew.
I could be wrong, but thats not a libel !

Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 3:12 utc | 252

… ‘Sea-Lioning’ …
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 23:24 utc | 243
Dang, that’s good.
Even better than ‘suck-up’.
Engage a sea lion at your own risk.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 6 2024 5:19 utc | 253

Boeing’s 737-MAX are junk.

Alaska Airlines said it will ground its fleet of Boeing Co. 737 Max-9 jets after a window and a portion of the plane’s fuselage blew out shortly after take-off in Portland on Friday.
The airline is taking the “precautionary step” to temporarily ground the fleet of 65 planes until the completion of full maintenance and inspection, Chief Executive Officer Ben Minicucci said in a statement.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-06/alaska-airlines-flight-makes-emergency-landing-in-portland-fox

Alaska Air is taking the “precautionary step” to allow the FAA to slow-walk the issue. Same way that the FAA has been slow-walking the grounding of Pratt & Whitney’s thousands of defective GTF engines.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 6 2024 10:08 utc | 254

@Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 5 2024 22:49 utc | 240

It is not my (nor Roger’s) job to educate you or Scorpion better — and as I said I am not going to argue about this matter.

Then do not do it. Especially if you have to costantly answer me before trying to comprehend (from Latin comprehendere: “to put together”) what I wrote.

[…] you cannot presume in any cultural / social or empire breakup situations that “multiculturalism” is the CAUSE of the fracturing itself!

I never presumed in “any”. I said that it is a tendency, thus not a necessity (1). I said that authoritarian rule curbs these frictional forces (2). I said that inclusivity and diversity policies enhance these frictional forces (3), by highlighting and exposing the cultural differences. As a consequence, I said, multicultural societies are found either in authoritarian empires or in short lived polities, or in both authoritarian and short-lived polities (4).
Now let’s take the counter(???)-examples you put forward:

the Ottoman empire

A most authoritarian state.

the Roman [empire]

The “role-model” of an authoritarian state.

[the] Chinese empire

An authoritarian to most-authoritarian to ethnic-infighting-blob state.
Let’s take the Roman polity. The Roman Republic developed some democratic institutions: the plebeian council, the tribunes of the plebs, the plebeian aediles. The commoners (plebeians) during the Roman Republic had, through their two tribunes, complete veto power over the decisions of all magistrates, including the consuls, and of the Senate. As soon as the Republic morphed into an Empire, these democratic institutions completely vanished, aristocratic power waned and the Roman polity became autocratic as it never was. A good example indeed, for my thesis.
Also, the Roman Empire fractured along the Latin/Greek cultural border.
The Ottomans never even tried to be somewhat democratic. A repressive religious state, where one needed to be muslim to access (but not necessarily have) full civil rights. Socially regressive even if compared to the Roman Empire, even if 1000 years later. If one thinks that the Eastern Roman Empire developed the Corpus Iuris Civilis, and then, 1000 years later, there was sharia there.

Posted by: SG | Jan 6 2024 13:00 utc | 255

As soon as the Republic morphed into an Empire, these democratic institutions completely vanished, aristocratic power waned and the Roman polity became autocratic as it never was. A good example indeed, for my thesis.
Posted by: SG | Jan 6 2024 13:00 utc | 255

I guess it comes down to balance or harmonious resonance.
A polity/collective needs to have some sort of cohesion, a sense of Oneness, or ‘we’ and ‘us’. And yet that We ideally comprises dynamic individuals able to be self-responsible, flourish and thrive, perhaps the underlying meaning of Liberty.
Part of the problem with the modernist view is its overly narrow bandwidth. You can shoehorn an entire complex society into the label ‘capitalist’ and have many accurate insights in so doing but meanwhile ignore vital elements part of the Oneness or We-ness.
This is similar to how as individuals we can live out our lives in accordance with conceptual overlays, like plans or maps, but if we lose touch with our heart in so doing we are no longer fully human. Both individuals and societies have many such zones or chakras, like heart and head, each of which needs to be properly aligned with its underlying ‘true’ nature and which works in its own way. The political spectrum is just one of many such zones or layers needing attunement both to its own and all other imperatives. As for the individual, so also for the collective.
Generally nowadays we are in Babel and lack the vocabulary and shared connection with which to discuss, let alone modify, many parts of ourselves and society. Or: what now ails us cannot properly be discussed or solved by elections (or wars) alone. And three billion will be voting in them this year..

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 6 2024 14:40 utc | 256

Ray McGovern (former CIA analyst):
– The US and Jordan are training “moderate insurgents” to overthrow the syrian govenment of Bashir Al Assad. This happens in the US military base of Al Tanf (Al Tans ???) in (eastern ???) Syria.
-This makes another story (more) credible. Scott Ritter (former UN weapons inspector) claims that some 10.000 ukrainian radicals were transported to Canada (and the UK ???) to be trained for the next battle in the Ukraine (???).
Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 5 2024 18:21 utc | 231
Ray McGovern is a former CIA analyst. He can be followed on his website called:
https://raymcgovern.com/

Posted by: Mr. Market | Jan 6 2024 16:34 utc | 257

@Posted by: SG | Jan 6 2024 13:00 utc | 255
Michael Parenti corrected the highly misleading historiography of Rome with his book “The Assassination Of Julius Caesar: A People’s History Of Ancient Rome”. The “Republic” was an oligarchy not a democracy in any real form. He also discussed the issue with having the idle rich act as the historians. Rome was run for the benefit of the creditor class against the rest, Caesar attempted to overturn that and then of course was denigrated by the upper classes.
Parenti also did an excellent takedown of the medieval horrific feudal hell that was Tibet before the population was freed by the communists, Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth (2003)
The history of China was the development of a meritocratic authoritarian bureaucracy open to all where the Emperor served conditionally with the Mandate of Heaven, as the CPC does now. The “Discourses of Iron and Salt” detailed the role of the central state in balancing commercial interests with those of the general population.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 6 2024 16:35 utc | 258

Bloomberg is reporting that US intelligence has learned the grounds for the disappearance of Chinese Defense Minister Li Shangfu.

US Intelligence Shows Flawed China Missiles Led Xi to Purge Army
. China missiles filled with water, not fuel: US intelligence
. Xi seeking to root out corruption, prepare military for combat

US intelligence indicates that President Xi Jinping’s sweeping military purge came after it emerged that widespread corruption undermined his efforts to modernize the armed forces and raised questions about China’s ability to fight a war, according to people familiar with the assessments.
The corruption inside China’s Rocket Force and throughout the nation’s defense industrial base is so extensive that US officials now believe Xi is less likely to contemplate major military action in the coming years than would otherwise have been the case, according to the people, who asked not to be named discussing intelligence.
The US assessments cited several examples of the impact of graft, including missiles filled with water instead of fuel and vast fields of missile silos in western China with lids that don’t function in a way that would allow the missiles to launch effectively, one of the people said.
The US assesses that corruption within the People’s Liberation Army has led to an erosion of confidence in its overall capabilities, particularly when it comes to the Rocket Force, and also set back some of Xi’s top modernization priorities, the people said. The graft probe has ensnared more than a dozen senior defense officials over the past six months, in what may be China’s largest crackdown on the country’s military in modern history.
At the same time, the US assesses that Xi hasn’t been weakened by the widening purge, according to the people. Rather, they said, his move to oust senior figures — including some promoted under his watch — shows his hold over the Communist Party remains firm and that he’s serious about improving discipline, eliminating corruption and ultimately preparing China’s military for combat over the long term.
continues ==> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-06/us-intelligence-shows-flawed-china-missiles-led-xi-jinping-to-purge-military

Posted by: too scents | Jan 6 2024 17:05 utc | 259

white man dindunuthin….

To recap….
scorpion the unabashed empire apologist.

White man bring law and order to the primitive jungle man
White colonisation civilised those barbarians.

scorpion the innocent white man

Dont blame us, its the Jews, the gawd damned Jews !

Classic white supremacists syndrome, wants his cake and eat it too
https://tinyurl.com/5xveydct
comment 95

Posted by: denk | Jan 6 2024 17:36 utc | 260

quote from michael hudson predictions for 2024..
“In the United States, the Federal Reserve, and in Europe with its central banks, are creating money basically for financial interests to buy existing industrial companies and infrastructure and close them down. The model for Western Europe is the Thames Water in England, a company that was privatized, and instead of providing clean water and stopping pollution in the sewage system, just uses the money that it gets to pay dividends to the investors without making the investment, and ends up polluting the water and losing a lot of water through leakage, and just being the disaster that you’re seeing in England. Similar stories could be said in the United States.
Let’s look 10 years, more likely 20 years in the future. What is going to happen when Western Europe and the United States see how China, Russia, Iran, and the rest of the BRICS 10 countries are raising their living standards, increasing their productivity? They will be to the West what America was to Europe after World War II. Now the situation is reversed. Now it’s the US and Europe that will look towards Russia and China as the leads of how do we emulate them? How do we get Russian and Chinese products for luxuries? Instead of buying blue jeans, American blue jeans and cigarettes as they did after World War II, they’re going to want to buy Chinese and Russian and Asian and, I hope, Near Eastern products as well.”
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/01/predictions-2024/

Posted by: james | Jan 6 2024 19:56 utc | 261

Talking of Michael Hudson, and British history, this review is good and worth reading in full, It makes points about British society rarely noticed elsewhere.
“Michael Hudson is one of the most brilliant political economists of our time. In his prodigious and prolific thinking one often encounters a thought, many just one sentence, that puts everything into a new perspective. In one of his many podcasts he maintained that since the Norman Conquest of Britain in 1066 the British people have never recovered their sovereignty or self-determination. If you look at today’s Britain’s wealthiest citizens, many trace their wealth, mainly through the possession of vast tracts of land, to this day. Until the middle of the 19th century the scions of these Norman conquerors held the political and economic reins of Britain in their hands. Nowadays the prime minister and cabinet contain few such nobles, however their political reach has been little reduced. With the arrival of industrial capitalist wealth, they have adapted to the interlopers, or better said, the industrial capitalists have integrated themselves into the Norman oligarchy.
“Although Stewart Lansley in his book “The Richer, The Poorer” limited his time horizon to the past two centuries, the period he analyses is simply the continuation of this political reality. What he describes is the transition from oligarchy to plutocracy in Britain. This however was accompanied by a Christian evangelical movement of the burgeoning middle class that brought a movement for social reform with it that continued into the twentieth century. Lansley assesses these developments rather soberly: “For most of the last two hundred years, Britain has been a high-poverty, high-inequality nation”.
“Following the harrowing threat of being conquered by the Germans in World War II there was a change in class consciousness in Britain. This was especially true of the middle class who spent almost six years in close contact with the working class in the British army, both bringing great sacrifice, as did the working class, especially women, on the home front. After the war both classes were convinced that the crass inequality and poverty in pre-war Britain could not continue. This resulted in a post-war attempt to create a more egalitarian society in Britain – maybe not as egalitarian as popularly portrayed, as argued by Lansley in his book….”
https://braveneweurope.com/the-richer-the-poorer-how-britain-enriched-the-few-and-failed-the-poor-a-two-hundred-year-history-by-stewart-lansley

Posted by: bevin | Jan 6 2024 20:12 utc | 262

What is going to happen when Western Europe and the United States see how China, Russia, Iran, and the rest of the BRICS 10 countries are raising their living standards, increasing their productivity?
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/01/predictions-2024/
@ james | Jan 6 2024 19:56 utc | 261
What’s going to happen once the above becomes clearer?
Western Europe, the US and the other chattel states will declare war on them all for being the new Axis of Evil.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 20:55 utc | 263

@ SG | Jan 6 2024 13:00 utc | 255
There’s no need to pretend you’re not a racist and care none at all about democracy ideals or human rights values, and that is all that is behind your put downs of multiculturalism and mixed race societies past and present. Be proud of it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 21:08 utc | 264

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 20:55 utc | 263
hey! they already have in every way! don’t wait for them to communicate it to the world directly in a nyt, wapo or wsj headline, lol…

Posted by: james | Jan 6 2024 21:20 utc | 265

WTF?
Defense Secretary Kept White House in the Dark About His Hospitalization
Lloyd J. Austin III issued a statement Saturday night saying, “I take full responsibility for my decision about disclosure.”
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Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III, wearing a dark gray suit and blue tie, standing at a lectern with many colorful flags behind him.
Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III was admitted to intensive care on Monday. The White House learned of it on Thursday.Credit…Office of The Secretary of Defense Public Affairs/via Reuters
Helene CooperEric Schmitt
By Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt
Reporting from Washington
Jan. 6, 2024, 6:18 p.m. ET
It took the Pentagon three and a half days to inform the White House that Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III had been hospitalized on New Year’s Day following complications from an elective procedure, two U.S. officials said Saturday.
The extraordinary breach of protocol — Mr. Austin is in charge of the country’s 1.4 million active-duty military at a time when the wars in Gaza and Ukraine have dominated the American national security landscape — has baffled officials across the government, including at the Pentagon.
Senior defense officials say Mr. Austin did not inform them until Thursday that he had been admitted to the intensive care unit at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md. The Pentagon then informed the White House.
The Pentagon’s belated notification, first reported by Politico, confounded White House officials, one Biden administration official said. A spokeswoman for the National Security Council declined to comment on Saturday.
On Saturday night, Mr. Austin issued a mea culpa.
“I recognize I could have done a better job ensuring the public was appropriately informed,” he said in a statement. “I commit to doing better.”
Mr. Austin added, “This was my medical procedure, and I take full responsibility for my decision about disclosure.”
It was late Friday evening when Mr. Austin’s spokesman, Maj. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder, put out a statement to the news media that the secretary had been hospitalized. General Ryder said patient privacy prevented him from elaborating about Mr. Austin’s medical issue.
In the Friday statement, he said the defense secretary, who is 70, was “recovering well and is expecting to resume his full duties today.”
Mr. Austin was still in the hospital on Saturday, a defense official said.
Pentagon officials had to call Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks while she was on vacation in Puerto Rico to handle affairs while Mr. Austin was hospitalized, a Defense Department official said on Saturday, confirming a report by NBC News. The department said on Friday that Ms. Hicks had assumed Mr. Austin’s duties temporarily. The secretary has delegated authority to her in the past, when he has been on vacation and off the grid.
But just Thursday, while Mr. Austin was out of action, the United States launched a retaliatory strike in Baghdad that killed a militia leader who Pentagon officials said was responsible for recent attacks on American troops in the region.
A Biden administration official said that the head of U.S. Central Command, Gen. Michael E. Kurilla, already had authorization for the strike.
Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and a member of the Armed Services Committee, demanded on Saturday that Mr. Austin explain why he had not immediately informed the White House that he had been hospitalized and was unable to perform his duties.
“The secretary of defense is the key link in the chain of command between the president and the uniformed military, including the nuclear chain of command, when the weightiest of decisions must be made in minutes,” Mr. Cotton said in a statement. “If this report is true, there must be consequences for this shocking breakdown.”
Criticism was growing in other quarters as well.
“The public has a right to know when U.S. cabinet members are hospitalized, under anesthesia or when duties are delegated as the result of any medical procedure,” the Pentagon Press Association said in a statement Friday night. “As the nation’s top defense leader, Secretary Austin has no claim to privacy in this situation.”
Mr. Austin is notoriously private and has kept a low profile during his time as defense secretary. It has been more than a year since he appeared at the lectern in the Pentagon briefing room to address members of the news media, and he has been known to sometimes avoid reporters who travel with him overseas.
On those trips, he prefers to dine alone in his hotel room when he does not have an engagement with a foreign counterpart.
In his statement Saturday, Mr. Austin said, “I am very glad to be on the mend and look forward to returning to the Pentagon soon.”
Helene Cooper is a Pentagon correspondent. She was previously an editor, diplomatic correspondent and White House correspondent. More about Helene Cooper
Eric Schmitt is a national security correspondent for The Times, focusing on U.S. military affairs and counterterrorism issues overseas, topics he has reported on for more than three decades. More about Eric Schmitt

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 7 2024 0:42 utc | 266

bloomberg on china/xi
@ too scents | Jan 6 2024 17:05 utc | 259
It’s all too predictable, but it is still incredibly sickening and toxic to see it again and again and again.
This will end badly.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 7 2024 1:20 utc | 267

Posted by: bevin | Jan 6 2024 20:12 utc | 262
Talking of Michael Hudson, and British history, this review is good and worth reading in full, It makes points about British society rarely noticed elsewhere.
“Michael Hudson is one of the most brilliant political economists of our time. In his prodigious and prolific thinking one often encounters a thought, many just one sentence, that puts everything into a new perspective. In one of his many podcasts he maintained that since the Norman Conquest of Britain in 1066 the British people have never recovered their sovereignty or self-determination.

That’s quite a statement! Very interesting… You don’t happen to know which podcast that was do you?

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 1:48 utc | 268

Posted by: SG | Jan 5 2024 18:42 utc | 234
@Scorpion | Jan 5 2024 15:37 utc | 223
No problem. Despite my writing style, there is no animosity at the basis of my comments.
The fact is that the Golden Horde, a leftover of the Mongol empire, invaded again Hungary some 40 years after the first invasion, and it was handily beaten.

Thanks for the addendum. Of course there is no way of knowing what might have happened if …. etc. But clearly the Mongols ran out of expansion momentum around that time, probably due to succession issues, and although I read somewhere years ago that their legal system was surprisingly effective and lasted quite some time in many nations including Persia, they of course didn’t sweep through Europe and by the mid-1400s were kicked out of ruling China to the latter’s detriment it seems.
In any case, as a boy I loved that film with Yul Brynner and Tony Curtis about the Mongols.
I don’t recall animosity, rather my impression is that you offer well-informed, interesting and edgy opinion. Such as what you wrote about Authoritarianism etc. Societies need both that and individual liberty/productivity. Doing this requires not only efficient organization and leadership, but also shared notions of how to lead sane, uplifted lives. This is extremely basic but surprisingly hard to actualise.
It’s also getting very hard to discuss because we lack shared perspectives and vocabularies. What is happening in the West is very sad, but since we were far too arrogant and greedy a certain amount of karmic comeuppance is in order. One symptom of the current decline and decadence is deteriorating communication, a clear and present example of which on the larger geopolitical stage is what’s happening in Ukraine and Palestine, but also within our various polities, also even families, it is all now Babel.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 2:16 utc | 269

Dignified Sex Work and Temporary Marriages In Geopolitics – a working title ..
/// from the archives //////
U.S., Russia Cooperate on Iran Amid Rifts

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 8, 2006

The United States and Russia publicly closed ranks yesterday over the need for Iran to ease international concerns over its nuclear program, but growing fissures in the U.S.-Russian relationship were apparent when Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with reporters yesterday after two days of meetings.
Though Lavrov said it was too early to discuss U.N. sanctions against Iran, Vice President Cheney had already issued a blunt threat that Iran will face “meaningful consequences” if it fails to cooperate with international efforts to curb its nuclear program. Cheney told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee yesterday that the United States “is keeping all options on the table in addressing the irresponsible conduct of the regime” and is sending “a clear message: We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”
Over dinner Monday, Rice and Lavrov had a long discussion on Iran and U.S. concerns about the downward democratic trends in Russia, U.S. officials said. After Rice mentioned the dialogue to reporters, Lavrov responded that Russia has its own concerns as well, noting that the United States is the “only country” refusing to sign off on Russia’s admission to the World Trade Organization.
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President Bush also met with Lavrov yesterday, signifying the high stakes as the two countries try to chart a course in which their tactics and, sometimes, their goals appear to be in conflict. Lavrov, for instance, arrived in Washington after disrupting the U.S.-led international campaign to isolate the radical Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as Hamas, which unexpectedly won the Palestinian legislative elections. Lavrov had met with Hamas leaders and offered yesterday an upbeat appraisal of Hamas’s willingness to meet international conditions.
Russia has played a leading role in recent months to resolve the impasse with Iran, offering to establish a joint venture on Russian soil that would enrich uranium for use in Iranian reactors. Some U.S. officials were alarmed Monday that Russian officials appeared to be floating a plan that threatened to unravel the delicate diplomacy designed to bring the Iranian program to the U.N. Security Council for debate, a long-sought U.S. goal. U.S. officials rejected the idea, which would have allowed Iran to retain a small research facility.
Yesterday, Lavrov flatly said that there is “no compromise [or a] new Russian proposal” and that Russia is determined to clarify the nature of Iran’s nuclear programs and ensure it does not violate an international treaty prohibiting civilian technology from being diverted for military use.
Diplomats attending a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna said, however, that Russia and China, two of Iran’s most important trading partners, advocate measures that could include allowing Tehran to continue some form of carefully monitored, small-scale research to enable it to save face amid international pressure.
“The United States has been very clear that enrichment and reprocessing on Iranian soil is not acceptable because of the proliferation risk,” Rice said, adding that Lavrov did not present a new proposal during their talks.
The IAEA board reported Iran to the U.N. Security Council last month, with the unusual provision that no action would be taken until the completion of an IAEA board meeting this week. But no further action needs to be taken for Iran’s nuclear program to be taken up by the Security Council.
Rice said that, as a first step, the United States will not seek sanctions against Iran. “We will see what is necessary to do in the Security Council,” she said. “There is still time, of course, for the Iranians to react.”
The United States and its European partners are initially seeking a statement, to be issued in the name of the Security Council president, that would affirm the resolutions issued by the IAEA and set a time limit for Iran’s compliance, U.S. and European officials said.
On Monday, when the IAEA opened its meeting in Vienna, Director General Mohamed ElBaradei expressed optimism that “an agreement could be reached” within a week to bring Iran into compliance with international demands. But, by yesterday, diplomats in Vienna seemed far less hopeful, with even European allies divided over how best to deal with Tehran.
The agency voted last month to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council over concerns about the possible military intentions of Iran’s nuclear program. Diplomats involved in the IAEA discussions said today’s scheduled debate on Iran will probably solidify differing opinions rather than produce an international consensus on how to persuade Tehran to cease its uranium enrichment program and provide more open access to its nuclear program.
The United States, France and Britain remain adamant that Iran should be allowed no latitude and must cease all uranium enrichment research, a condition that Iranian officials have said is unacceptable. Germany has been a key partner in the European Union negotiations with Iran, but some German officials have said the Russian idea of a small research facility has merit.
Lavrov’s visit comes against the backdrop of increasing concern in official Washington over the apparent rollback of democracy under President Vladimir Putin. Bush promised to promote democracy in his second inaugural speech, and senior administration officials are debating ways to make their displeasure about Putin’s actions known. The Council on Foreign Relations said, in a bipartisan task force report this week, that the administration should stop pretending that Russia is a genuine strategic partner and adopt a new policy of “selective cooperation” and “selective opposition” to Putin’s government.
Staff writers Molly Moore in Vienna and Peter Baker in Washington contributed to this report.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 2:21 utc | 270

And people UN doesn’t work. Hah. It sure did in case of “Iran”. You know, reading that, I almost shed a tear of joy for the future of the multi-polar humanity. Who can deny the spirit of cooperation and deep concern for the safety of humanity shown here by the UNSC permanent members? A scary nation called “Iran” was doing naughty things with atoms and in stepped “the world powers” to make a fine outstanding mess just like they did when they created Zionistan. “We waz fooled again. da”.
But it really is a strange outfit, this UN. Departments of this outfit have great power, “mask up”, “shoot this shit or go to camps”, “Iran, you get to be the Cuba of Asia!”, “teach this in your schools” …
But when it gets to Zionistan, “UN is powerless”.
(How do you say oy vey in Russian?)

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 2:35 utc | 271

I have mixed feelings about this site, though not sure why, but here’s a recent compilation about excess deaths worldwide in past two years according to official ‘kosher’ accounts, and also not related to covid. It also includes this paragraph tangential to the subject matter:

4. Israel’s Expertise in Pacifying the Palestinians Is in High Demand by Capitalist Elites as Populations Around the World Grow Restive, see this.
“As the world watches in horror Israel’s military assault on the people of Gaza, people are left to wonder why world leaders are not doing more to censure Israel and are allowing Israel to get away with mass killing.
Jeff Halper, an American-Israeli anthropologist who has written numerous books on Israeli history, has a clear answer.
He says that leaders of countries around the world are feeling more insecure as wealth is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a tiny capitalist elite and popular disaffection and the threat of rebellion grows.
Israel is revered precisely for its mastery of population-control techniques against the Palestinians, which many leaders want to emulate against dissident or minority groups within their own borders.
Part of Israel’s ace in the hole, according to Halper, is its development of a formidable weapons industry that allows it to supply high-tech weapons to countries around the world for the purpose of population control.
Israel is at the cutting edge in the development of surveillance satellites, weaponized and surveillance drones, Artificial Intelligence (AI) target identification systems, spyware gadgets and crowd control and cyberwarfare technologies, which it sells around the world.”
By Jeremy Kuzmarov

https://www.globalresearch.ca/our-rulers-are-determined-to-kill-us-all-shall-we-sit-around-in-our-insouciance-and-permit-it-to-happen/5844843

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 2:43 utc | 272

>Dignified Sex Work and Temporary Marriages In Geopolitics – a working title ..
> “[Lavrov was complaining about US] refusing to sign off on Russia’s admission to the World Trade Organization.”
2012: The “Satanic West” welcomes Russian Federation into the World “God of Mammon” Trade Organization. VVP at this was not aware of the Satanic leadership of West otherwise he would never involve “Holy” Mother Russia in any such (in)dignities. As to why RF wants to say in the satanic mammon loving west’s WTO, “to leave would hurt our partners’ feelings. da?” Angels among the nations. This fact rarely appreciated.
2015: The “Empire” and “partners” succeed in boxing the dangerous “Iran” saving humanity from impending peril and destruction. A win for the “good guys”. The agreement continues to work as intended..
2022: RF steals “Iran”‘s energy clients turning east after the spectacular military obfuscation. “Iran”‘s dignified marriage brokers however remain unfazed. “the market has ups and downs”. “Iran” ships drones and missiles to RF. Russia expresses thanks by backing KSA and UAE against “Iran” and Iran’s islands in the Persian Gulf. As VVP flies over Iran, he called “Iran”‘s “President” to express his thanks for their dignified services.

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@Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 2:16 utc | 269
There is a good case to be made that the Mongols, by connecting Asia and Europe for a while, facilitated the flows of knowledge and technology from the advanced East to the backward West that was central to the development of Europe. The Mongols also crushed the development of China, which was close to a commercial revolution that was devastated by the Mongol invasion (as well as crushing Russia and the Middle East).
Alexander Anievas, in his book “How The West Came To Rile: The Geopolitical Origins of Capitalism” makes a good case for this.

Posted by: Roger | Jan 7 2024 3:07 utc | 274

an informative article – a history of Gaza from antiquity to the present
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/why-gaza-matters
Why Gaza Matters

Jean-Pierre Filiu
January 1, 2024

After nearly three months of Israel’s war on Gaza, one thing is beyond dispute: the long-isolated territory has returned to the center of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. For much of the past two decades, as Israel imposed an air, sea, and land blockade on Gaza, international leaders and bodies seemed to assume that the dense enclave of 2.3 million Palestinians could be indefinitely excluded from the regional equation. Catching Israel and much of the wider world completely off guard, Hamas’s October 7 attack exposed the enormous flaws in that assumption. Indeed, the war has now reset the entire Palestinian question, putting Gaza and its people squarely at the center of any future Israeli-Palestinian negotiation.
But Gaza’s sudden new prominence should hardly come as a surprise. Although little of it is remembered today, the territory’s 4,000-year history makes clear that the last 16 years were an anomaly; the Gaza Strip has almost always played a pivotal part in the region’s political dynamics, as well as its age-old struggles over religion and military power. Since the British Mandate period in the early twentieth century, the territory has also been at the heart of Palestinian nationalism.
Therefore, any attempt at rebuilding Gaza after such a devastating war will be unlikely to succeed if it does not take account of the territory’s strategic position in the region. The demilitarization of this enclave can be achieved only by lifting the disastrous siege and putting forward a positive vision for its economic development. Rather than trying to cut off the territory or isolate it politically, international powers must work together to allow Gaza to reclaim its historic role as a flourishing oasis and a thriving crossroads, connecting the Mediterranean with North Africa and the Levant. The United States and its allies must recognize that Gaza will need to have a central part in any lasting solution to the Palestinian struggle.
THE JEWEL IN THE CROWN
In stark contrast to its present-day reality of impoverishment, extreme water shortages, and unending human misery, the oasis of Gaza, or Wadi Ghazza, was celebrated for centuries for the lushness of its vegetation and the coolness of its shade. As important, however, was its strategic value, for Gaza connects Egypt to the Levant. Its advantageous position has meant that the land has been contested since the seventeenth century BC, when the Hyksos invaded the Nile Delta from Gaza, only to be later defeated and repelled by a Theban-based dynasty of pharaohs. Eventually, the pharaohs had to abandon Gaza to the Sea Peoples—known as Philistines—who in the twelfth century BC established a five-city federation that included Gaza and the now Israeli cities of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath.
Violent tensions erupted over access to the sea between the Philistines and the neighboring Jewish tribes and then kingdoms. Thus the biblical story of Samson, the legendary Israelite warrior who sets out to defeat the Philistines. As his formidable strength depends on his hair never being cut, he is rendered powerless when he falls under the spell of Delilah, who has his head shaved during his sleep, and winds up in a Gaza prison. While in captivity, however, his hair grows back, restoring his strength, and when he is finally dragged out of his cell to be ridiculed in a Philistine temple, he brings down the pillars of the building, killing himself along with his enemies. In a similar vein, it is after killing the Philistine Goliath that young David begins his effort to unify the kingdoms of Judah and Israel.
In later antiquity, Gaza’s coveted geography made it a crucial battleground between some of the epoch’s greatest hegemons. After passing through the hands of the Assyrians and the Babylonians, Gaza was captured by Cyrus the Great’s Persia in the mid-sixth century. But the real shock came two centuries later, in 332 BC, when Alexander the Great of Macedonia launched a devastating hundred-day siege of Gaza on his way to Egypt. During this gruesome war, both sides fortified their positions by digging numerous tunnels beneath Gaza’s loose soil—providing a historic antecedent to Hamas’s strategy against Israel today. In the end, Alexander’s forces came out on top, but at a high cost to all sides. Alexander was injured during the siege and took terrible revenge on the defeated Gazans: much of the male population was slaughtered and the women and children reduced to slavery.
But Gaza’s importance extended beyond its military value. Having become a city-state during the Hellenistic period, it later became a major religious center in the early centuries of first Christianity and then Islam. In 407 AD, Porphyry, the Christian bishop of Gaza, managed to impose a church on the ruins of Gaza’s main pagan temple to Zeus. Even more famous was another local saint, Hilarion (291–371), who founded an important monastic community in Gaza and whose tomb became a hugely popular pilgrimage site. One of the prophet Muhammad’s great-grandfathers was a merchant from Mecca named Hashem ibn Abd Manaf, who died in Gaza around 525. As a result, after the territory was conquered by Muslim armies in the seventh century, Muslims respectfully referred to it as “Hashem’s Gaza.” (In the nineteenth century, the Ottomans built the Hashem Mosque in Gaza City to mark the site of Hashem’s mausoleum.)
Between the medieval period and the nineteenth century, Gaza continued to serve as a coveted prize in the region’s major power struggles. It seesawed between Christian crusaders and Muslim defenders in the twelfth century and Mamluk generals and Mongol invaders in the thirteenth. During two and a half centuries under the Mamluks—Turkic rulers who controlled medieval Egypt and Syria—Gaza entered a kind of golden age. The territory was endowed with numerous mosques, libraries, and palaces, and it prospered from the renewed coastal trade routes. In 1387, a fortified caravanseray or khan, a kind of trading and market hub, was established at the southern end of Gaza and soon grew into a city of its own, Khan Yunis.
Gaza was absorbed by the Ottoman Empire in 1517 and conquered, briefly, by Napoleon Bonaparte’s army, after it invaded Egypt in 1798. For much of this span, Gaza was renowned for its fruitful climate, congenial natives, and high quality of life. In 1659, one French traveler described it as “a very cheerful and agreeable place”; two centuries later, another, the French writer Pierre Loti, marveled at its “vast fields of barley all clothed in green.”
When the border was drawn in 1906 to separate British-controlled Egypt from Ottoman Palestine, it ran through the city of Rafah to create a de facto free trade zone between the two empires. But during World War I, the border was fiercely contested by British and Ottoman forces; after three attempts, the British Army finally broke through Ottoman lines in 1917. General Edmund Allenby entered the devastated city of Gaza on November 9, the same day his government made public the Balfour Declaration and its commitment to “the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine.” This endorsement of the Zionist program was later incorporated into the mandate that the League of Nations granted Britain to administer Palestine.
Although Gaza was one of the areas of Palestine least targeted by Zionist settlement, it became a stronghold of Palestinian nationalism, especially during the Great Arab Revolt of 1936–39, in which Palestinian Arabs rose up against the British and fought unsuccessfully for an independent Arab state. Instead, in November 1947, the United Nations endorsed a partition plan in which Palestine would be divided between an Arab state and a Jewish one—the original two-state solution—with Gaza joining the Arab state.
SEEDS OF STRUGGLE
Crucially, what became known as the Gaza Strip was shaped by the pivotal traumas of 1948. First came the failure of the UN’s partition plan, which, although welcomed by the Zionist leadership, was flatly rejected by Palestinian nationalists and the Arab states, setting off an armed conflict between Jews and Arabs. Soon, the first waves of Arab refugees, mainly from the Jaffa area, were arriving in Gaza; in a bitter anticipation of today’s international dilemma, the British suggested that the area would have better access to humanitarian relief overland from Cairo. Then, following the Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion’s proclamation of the state of Israel in May 1948, neighboring Arab states attacked, with 10,000 Egyptian soldiers moving into Gaza. But the Egyptians never made it farther than Ashdod, some 20 miles north of Gaza, where they were soon pushed back by a daring Israeli operation.
By January 1949, the Israelis had not only defeated the Arab armies but also driven some 750,000 Palestinians from their homes, in what became known as the nakba, or catastrophe. The armistice signed between Israel and Egypt under UN auspices in February of that year created the Gaza Strip, a territory under Egyptian administration and defined by the cease-fire lines in the north and east and by the 1906 border with Egypt in the south. After centuries as a strategic crossroads and vital commercial hub for regional trade, Gaza had been reduced to a “strip” of land, cornered by the desert, and cut off from what had been Palestine. On top of that, the local population of some 80,000 was now overwhelmed by some 200,000 refugees from all over Palestine who then described the Gaza Strip as their “Noah’s ark.”
There was no infrastructure to welcome these refugees, and during the first winter of 1948–49, the International Committee of the Red Cross estimated that ten children died every day from cold, hunger, or disease. The immensity of the Sinai Desert forced the survivors to remain in the enclave. Indeed, 25 percent of the Arab population of British Mandate Palestine was now confined in the Gaza Strip to just one percent of its former territory, with Israel absorbing 77 percent of that territory and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan another 22 percent, through its annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
Such was the magnitude of the nakba that the United Nations created a special body, the UN Relief for Palestinian Refugees (UNRPR), to deal with the humanitarian crisis. For Palestinians, the terrible upheaval also planted the seeds of a new struggle that would continue to the present day. In December 1948, the same UN General Assembly that had approved the failed partition plan a year earlier enshrined the Palestinian refugees’ “right of return”—whether by way of actual repatriation or mere monetary compensation—a concept that has been central to Palestinian aspirations ever since. It had special meaning in Gaza, given the extraordinary number of refugees there, and since Egypt had no territorial claim on the strip, the enclave became a natural incubator for Palestinian nationalism.
As Israel’s first leader, Ben-Gurion understood the long-term threat Gaza posed before almost any of his fellow Israelis. At the UN peace conference in Lausanne, in 1949, he proposed annexing the Gaza Strip and allowing 100,000 Palestinian refugees into their former homes in Israel. But the plan generated an uproar in both Israel, where there was enormous opposition to any return of Palestinians, and Egypt, where the defense of Gaza had become a national cause. As a result, the UN admitted its impotence to settle the Arab-Israeli dispute, terminating the Lausanne conference and establishing open-ended “interim” institutions instead. Thus, the UNRPR was turned into the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which ever since has been the main employer and main provider of social services in Gaza. Eight refugee camps were founded in the enclave, the largest ones being Jabalya, in the far north, and the Beach Camp, on the shoreline of Gaza City—the same camps that have now been destroyed by the Israeli onslaught.
In fact, it took some years before Gazan refugees turned to militant activism. At first, both Israel and Egypt managed to tamp down on the so-called fedayeen—guerrilla fighters mainly drawn from the camps in Gaza who sought to infiltrate Israel. But by the mid-1950s, the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser began using them for proxy raids against Israel, thus beginning the cycle of attacks and reprisals that is so closely associated with the territory today. In April 1956, the security officer of a kibbutz close to the Palestinian enclave was killed by infiltrators from Gaza, causing Moshe Dayan, the Israeli chief of staff, to warn Israelis of the unresolved grievances simmering in the territory: “Let us not, today, cast the blame on the murderers,” Dayan said. “For eight years now, they have sat in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have turned their lands and villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our home.”
Eradicating the fedayeen presence from Gaza became a top priority for Ben-Gurion and Dayan. In November 1956, the Israeli army took control of the strip as part of a coordinated offensive with France and the United Kingdom against Nasser’s Egypt. During four months of occupation, around a thousand Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces (including two massacres documented by UNRWA in which at least 275 were executed in Khan Yunis and 111 in Rafah). The trauma was so profound that when the Israelis withdrew under U.S. pressure, the Palestinian population called for the return of Egyptian rule instead of the UN trusteeship that had initially been envisioned. A historic opportunity to build a Palestinian entity that could evolve into a state had been lost. Meanwhile, the fedayeen fled to Kuwait, where they founded, in 1959, the Palestinian Liberation Movement, known as Fatah, with Yasser Arafat as its leader.
Israel’s second occupation of Gaza started in June 1967, after the Israeli triumph in the Six-Day War. Dayan, now minister of defense, with the future prime minister Yitzhak Rabin as his chief of staff, erased any trace of the border between Gaza and Israel, betting that the attraction of the Israeli labor market would dissolve Palestinian nationalism. But the local population nonetheless supported for four years a low-intensity guerrilla war, until Ariel Sharon, the Israeli commander for the region (also later prime minister), bulldozed parts of the refugee camps and broke the back of the insurgency. Today, the Israeli army is using the very same map that Sharon did to distinguish the so-called “safe areas” from the combat zones in the ongoing offensive.
MAKING A MONSTER
Israel’s more visionary leaders had long recognized that the Gaza refugee problem would not go away. In 1974—following Ben-Gurion—Sharon proposed resettling tens of thousands of Palestinian refugees in Israel to address Palestinian grievances, at least symbolically. But once again, the idea was rejected. Instead, Israel started to play off the Muslim Brothers in Gaza, led by Sheikh Yassin, against the now Fatah-controlled nationalists of the mainstream Palestinian Liberation Organization. Notably, the Israeli military governor attended the inauguration of Yassin’s mosque in Gaza in 1973, and six years later, Israel allowed the Islamists to receive foreign funds while repressing any established connection with the PLO.
For a time, this divide-and-conquer policy seemed to work well for Israel in Gaza, with clashes flaring between nationalists and Islamists in 1980. But by the late 1980s, an entire generation had grown up under the constant pressure of the Israeli settlers who, though numbering only in the low thousands, led the occupying army to exclude the already cramped Gazan population from one-fourth of the enclave. It was in Gaza’s Jabalya refugee camp that the first intifada began, in December 1987, from which it soon spread to the whole strip and then to the West Bank. Young Palestinians defied the Israeli military with their stones and slingshots but also forced Arafat and the PLO to endorse the two-state solution. In response, Yassin transformed his organization into Hamas (an acronym for the “Movement for Islamic Resistance”) accusing the PLO of having betrayed the “holy” duty to “liberate Palestine.” Once again, Israeli intelligence played on those tensions to weaken the intifada and waited until May 1989 to imprison Yassin. But the popular uprising went on until support for peace in Israel brought Rabin to office as prime minister, in July 1992.
In opening secret talks with the PLO, Rabin’s priority was to disengage Israel from the Gaza Strip yet still protect the Israeli settlers there. The Oslo accords, signed in September 1993, created a Palestinian Authority to take charge of territories evacuated by Israel. Arafat moved into Gaza ten months later, believing he had himself liberated the territory, or at least the portion under Palestinian control, while the local population was convinced it had paid the hardest price for such a liberation. This misunderstanding, along with the rampant corruption of the PA, played directly into the hands of Hamas. In 1997, a botched Israeli intelligence operation against the Hamas leader Khalid Meshal in Jordan led to the arrest of Israeli agents. To secure their release, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was forced to hand over Yassin, who had been serving a life sentence in Israel and who returned triumphantly to Gaza.
Hamas’s growing aggressiveness and the crisis of the peace process led to the eruption of the second intifada in September 2000. The shocking wave of suicide attacks helped bring Sharon to power in a February 2001 landslide. After laying siege to Arafat in Ramallah and killing Yassin in Gaza, Sharon believed that his victory would be complete only after the Israeli evacuation of the Gaza Strip. Such a unilateral withdrawal was meant to secure a new Israeli defense line around the enclave and was carried out without any consultation with Mahmoud Abbas, who had succeeded Arafat as head of the PLO and the PA. But Sharon’s gamble ruined the ambitious $3 billion development plan for Gaza that James Wolfensohn, the special envoy of the Quartet for the Middle East (Russia, the United States, the European Union, and the United Nations) had designed.
Hamas naturally claimed the Israeli withdrawal as a victory and went on to win the internationally sponsored parliamentary elections a few months later, in January 2006. Embarrassed by the unforeseen outcome, the United States and the European Union decided to boycott Hamas until it recognized Israel and renounced violence. But by the following year, the unreformed Hamas, having killed hundreds of its rivals, had gained total control of the strip, which was then put under full Israeli blockade (with the cooperation of Egypt, which controls the Rafah crossing point in the south). In many ways, Israeli policies had brought Hamas to power in Gaza, a power that the blockade has only consolidated since then.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 4:05 utc | 275

“In 1997, a botched Israeli intelligence operation against the Hamas leader Khalid Meshal in Jordan led to the arrest of Israeli agents. To secure their release, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was forced to hand over Yassin, who had been serving a life sentence in Israel and who returned triumphantly to Gaza.”
When I read stuff like this makes my antenna twitch. Isn’t it weird how we usually miss this sort of obvious stuff?
It’s like how (((Fidel))) got inserted into Cuban political scene. You read the account and ask yourself, well, couldn’t this easily be set up? Have you read how the NYTimes Revolutionary Debutante got into Cuban politics? The official story. Read it. Now, we can forgive the folks back in innocent 50s but today? You be the judge.
So back to the story. Jordan strong arming Nutty. That’s the line. Hamas was Israel’s chosen one but here they are going after Khalid. Mossad “botches the operation”. Jordan’s finest rise to the occasion and no bumbling there. Take that, stereotypes. The king assumes an indignant pose on “his” throne in Jordan. Netanyahu is “forced” to release the sheikh to please the “king”. There is a triumphant return to Gaza. Nutty goes to his room to lick his wounds.
Plausible deniability. Conspiracy theory. CIA has good memes. And they work well together. One feeds the other and neither bites the hands that feeds it.

But, suddenly, I viddied that thinking was for the gloopy ones
and that the omni ones use like inspiration and what Bog sends,
for now it was lovely music that came to my aid and I viddied at once what to do.
There was a window open with the stereo on.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 4:26 utc | 276

GATEMAN 1
(polite and well-spoken)
Good morning, sir.
BILL
Good morning.
GATEMAN 1
Can we be of any help you?
BILL
I suppose you’d like the password?
GATEMAN 1
If you wouldn’t mind, sir.
BILL
(slowly)
(((Fidelio Rainbow)))…
GATEMAN 1
Thank you, sir.
The gate is opened…
-.-
– Where we going, girls?
– Where the rainbow ends.
– ?
– Don’t you want to go where the rainbow
ends?

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 5:01 utc | 277

@ robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 4:05 utc | 276
imo this is nothing more than unhelpful ‘propaganda’ pushing a falsehood that will and can never happen.
The only real long term solution is the end of the zionist entity and a Palestinian state across all the territory that is of Palestine followed by the forced deportation of all immigrant zionist jews since 1920 and their descendants.
As ‘impossible’ as that sounds, at least it leads somewhere hopeful and dispenses real justice to all. It will of course take overwhelming military force and regional agreements to implement it. That will arrive in due course.
Israel is done and dusted. It’s now only a matter of time — in the interim it will look like situation “normal’ and the zionists are totally in control. But one day this house of cards will be washed into the sea. I hope I live to see it happen.
America has no right to sit in the UN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrEXk5SGv4

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 7 2024 7:30 utc | 278

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 7 2024 7:30 utc | 278
> Israel is done and dusted. It’s now only a matter of time — in the interim it will look like situation “normal’ and the zionists are totally in control. But one day this house of cards will be washed into the sea. I hope I live to see it happen.
Zionist entity should have never even had happened! WW 2 was the epitome of a multi-, or will take bi-polar, moment. Excuse after lame excuse. Fake revolutionary after fake revolutionary. How and why is this happening? How is it possible this is still simmering after 70+ years? “Zionistan bad” .We all know and agree on this. Please pay attention.
“Overwhelming military force[s]” better first figure out they are not being useful idiots for the Cabal. We’re here connecting the dots and looking at magical careers and meteoric rises assisted by Cabal machinary sucfh as NYTimes and “martyr” Rosenbergs …
Is “empire” == “cult of mammon”?
Evidence suggests a higher layer that apparently can use “empire” assets (like NYTimes, like spook journalists, like people working in the most secret of top secret projects, ..) to set up anti-empire actors.
“Don’t go there, we already know, Israel must go”.
Let it go, and good riddance. But I will take you all there … over the rainbom. Inshallah.

Posted by: robinthehood | Jan 7 2024 14:39 utc | 279

Well – I caught up since my ultimatum on new years to the arses here.
I note they kept clear and have avoided the gauntlet.
If still at this bar I’d just like to say to you – THANKS DENKS!
That has been a brilliant set of posts on this thread that has allowed me to put back my clogs in their holster. I think you mashed many a toe that asked for it.
A deserving mention for LD too.
So much real-time rapid re-buttal of the Narrative sheepdogs is a vital skill and need. I hope the many future readers who ask their personal AI to read through these blogs will see the worth of some of you guys and gals and easily identify the dishonest for what they were. History written as it happened not by some future stinger.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 7 2024 15:18 utc | 280

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 7 2024 15:18 utc | 280
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Thanks
b runs an OMO show.
This is the last bastion of dissent.
OPen forum is swell but has its downside, trolls
Lets do our best to help keep the bar spam free.

Posted by: denk | Jan 7 2024 17:00 utc | 281

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 2:43 utc | 272
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Unz

Separating Fact From Fiction

lots of fiction flying around since 7-10, ESpecially at UNZ, increasingly also at the bar.

Israel is a teflon country

Bollocks !

Hundreds of UN resolutions against Tel Aviv.,
Anti Jew protests at unis
wOrLD outrage OVER Gaza
Global hate crimes against Jews
Israel the first non Black country to appear at ICJ TRial

If this is impunity then u aint seen nuthin yet…
Can those real teflon countries please stand up ?
India
[genocided millions in within/without its border, 0 consequence]
Ditto Indonesia
The ultimate teflon country
USAss led NATO killed 30M civies worlkwide, 40 M refugees
,..
USAss killed 3000 gringo in 911
[0 consequence]
Moral of the story…
While fixating on Gaza, dont ever lose sight of the 1200 lb gorilla , both master of manipulation.
Is MH370 A PAYBACK ?
PS
Who blocked all the UN resolutions against Israel ANyway?
Supply state of art weaponry to IDF ?
Even Torpedo a Gaza ceasefire at the UN ?
Pepe

Why did US needs the Gaza war ?

How about A deflection. ?

Posted by: denk | Jan 7 2024 17:18 utc | 282

Recent events have exposed Israel’s true character even to the most obstinate deniers. However, there remains only one way the monster of Israel can be tamed. When Israelis are confronted with their very own savagery and the State of Israel is destroyed.
LD

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Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 7 2024 2:43 utc | 272
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Israel’s Expertise in Pacifying the Palestinians Is in High Demand by Capitalist Elites as Populations Around the World Grow Restive

BS !
Lets take the three amigos, India, Indonesia, USAss, worst genociders of the 20C
India genocided millions within/without its border, …Kashmir, Seven sisters, Punjab, Dalits, Naxals, , GUjarat……
Ditto Indonesia, E Timor, Aceh, West PNG, cHINESE minorities…
These two dont need no expertise from Tel Aviv , they might teach the Israelis a thing or two !
As for that 1200lb gorilla,
USAss genocided 30M civies since WW2, killed 3000 own cigtizens in 2001.
Its iN A LEAgue of its own.
Somebody says THE IDF is the first army to ‘target civies’.
Sorry
USA clinched that honor long ago.
Pioneer of 21C art of war..

‘Dry the pond to kill the fish’ in NAM
Artillery crew zeroing in on the cry of babies…in NAM

Babies killers
In fact its in their official rule of engagment…[sic]
In Fallujah,

punishing the “citizenry” to deny sanctuary and assistance to the insurgents,

In ex Yugo ,

punishing the serbs to trigger an uprising’

A Serb American ask gen Michael Short..

Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including “a priest with his head blasted away?” (Reuters, 30 May).
Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?

Gen Michael Short explained to reporter…

“If you wake up in the morning and you have no power to your house and no gas to your stove and the bridge you take to work is down and will be lying in the Danube for the next 20 years, I think you begin to ask, ‘Hey, Slobo, what’s this all about? How much more of this do we have to withstand?'”

In Afpak, elsewhere, same rule applies

just get the bastards, fuck the civies

On October 22, US warplanes attacked the remote Afghan farming village of Chowkar-Karez, 60 kilometers north of Kandahar, a Taliban stronghold. The Taliban says between 90 and 100 civilians were killed.
The Pentagon acknowledges civilians were killed, but says the Taliban’s estimates are too high.
Asked why a sortie had been flown against a remote farming village, the Pentagon told CNN that Chowkar-Karez was a fully legitimate target because it is a nest of Taliban and Al Qaeda sympathizers.

According to the Toronto newspaper The Globe and Mail, a Pentagon official told CNN that, “The people there are dead because we wanted them dead.”
No accident, no blunder.

Britain’s Chief of Defense Staff, Admiral Michael Boyce, told reporters

the war on Afghanistan is aimed at ratcheting up civilian misery in hopes that Afghans will oust the Taliban. “The squeeze will carry on until the people of the country themselves recognize that this is going to go on until they get the leadership changed,”

See how these sob broadcast their plan to genocide civies in broad daylight, with not a peep from the plebs, nor the ‘international community’, nor the pop

Hell we gave world Dickens too !

Well take your Dickens and shove it up yours !
[courtesy Stephen Gowans]

Posted by: denk | Jan 8 2024 3:52 utc | 284

I am not a “Millennial”…

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 6 2024 1:01 utc | 245
You so clearly are: a febrile, uselessly encouraged mid-adulthood emotional child who has only a tenuous grasp of history, all predicated on your own personal rebellion.
You’re a characiature of the people you claim to mock.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jan 8 2024 10:02 utc | 285