The MoA Week In Review - OT 2023-291
Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:
Ukraine:
- November 27 - Ukraine SitRep: High Losses, Political Infighting, Blocked Borders
- December 1 - Ukraine Finally Starts To Build Defense Lines
Related:
- The West Pushed Ukraine to War and Kiev Now is Paying the Butcher’s Bill - Sonar21
- Spiders in Glass Jar: Ze Desperately Buys Time as Enemies Plot - Simplicius
- Zelenskiy Faces Manpower Dilemma in Ukraine’s Stalled Offensive - Yahoo
- Putin seems to be winning the war in Ukraine—for now - Economist
- Coup Poker Continues and Everybody is Playing - Gordon Hahn
Palestine:
- November 29 - On Gaza Biden Has To Climb Down More Than He Already Has
- December 1 - Washington Green Lights Resumption Of Israel's Killing Spree
- December 2 - Israel Plans For Long War And The Expulsion Of People From Gaza
Related:
- Birth and Death Intertwined in Gaza Strip - HRW
- Who is a Jew? Race, “the Chosen People” and Biopolitics - Postil
- Civilians are 'center of gravity' in Gaza war: US defense secretary - Reuters/MSN
- Palestinians face beatings, fires and drones from Israeli settlers in West Bank - LA Times
- CNN report claiming sexual violence on October 7 relied on non-credible witnesses, some with undisclosed ties to Israeli govt - Mondoweiss
Empire:
- November 30 - Good Riddance
Related:
- Henry Kissinger, the Hypocrite - NY Times
- Members of Israel’s Ruling Likud Party Once Planned to Assassinate Henry Kissinger - Intercept
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Other issues:
Culture:
- Not a Nothingburger: My Statement to Congress on Censorship - Matt Taibbi
- The Bogus Historians Who Teach Evangelicals They Live in a Theocracy- Politico
- Martina Navratilova on Why She Keeps Talking About Trans Women in Sports - Intelligencer
Russia:
- War and the Future of Russia - Postil
- Most Russians back war in Ukraine and buy Putin’s case for it, report says - Washington Post
- The Crumbling of the World Order and a Vision of Multipolarity: The Position of Russia and the West - Valdai Club
Green China:
- China’s CO2 emissions may be falling already, in a watershed moment for the world - Telegraph
- Sodium in Batteries: Shift May Herald Another Shakeup - Bloomberg
- The problem with EVs is they're made in China - Axios
Others:
- Signal Facing Collapse After CIA Cuts Funding - Kit Klarenberg
- How Saudis overcame “reputational damage” - Indian Punchline
- FOI request reveals Bellingcat collusion with Western intelligence - Grayzone
Use as open (not Ukraine or Palestine related) thread ...
Posted by b on December 3, 2023 at 14:09 UTC | Permalink
next page »https://www.thepostil.com/war-and-the-future-of-russia/
From the well-known 'patriotic conservative' grandee in Russia, some thoughts on how peace should and should not, be achieved in Ukraine:
PV: But if for some reason the freeze does happen, what risks will it bring to Russia? After all, Russia is also heated in a certain way.AGD: It is. The worst thing that can happen in this war is peace, i.e., a truce on the terms of the enemy. The fulfillment of these conditions will not be able to be presented as a victory. Because indeed we have huge casualties—people are losing loved ones, losing children, blood is flowing through the souls of Russians, and just saying that we will freeze the conflict will not be accepted by anyone; it is fraught with the collapse of the country and the system, and it is better not to even think about it.
I think that our authorities soberly realize that it is impossible to freeze the conflict without victory, without bright, tangible, visible positive results. Of course, there will be talk about it; someone who dreams of Russia’s defeat inside and outside Russia will exacerbate this situation; but as far as I imagine the supreme authorities, this is impossible. We will talk about peace when we have victory.
PV: How do we understand that victory has come?
AGD: There can be different ways: victory over the whole of Ukraine or the liberation of only Novorossiya, or even a part of Novorossiya within the four regions that are already part of Russia within their administrative boundaries. But at least the consolidation of the borders of the four new regions can be considered a minimum victory, which will not actually be a victory. In my opinion, this is not even a minimum, but a failure and defeat in the eyes of our society, which has already shed so much blood. Half of Ukraine—with Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, maybe Sumy and Chernihiv—is still a good thing. But no one will even talk to us about four regions; they will offer us even less than what is already unacceptable for us. The distance between what can be the basis for peace talks for Ukraine and the West and for us is too great. Until the positions are brought closer together, until we launch a powerful offensive with a siege of Kiev, it will be impossible to negotiate.
PV: So, the basis for negotiations can only be the direct military seizure of territories?
AGD: Yes, or if the Ukrainian government collapses. On the other hand, we can come to negotiations if everything collapses. But, of course, this is unlikely. In short, the difference between the two minimal sets of peace proposals is now so great that further fighting is inevitable. And with it will come political processes inside Russia and inside Ukraine. Inside Russia, they are predictable—the strengthening of the “Victory Party” and the final liberation from the “Traitors’ Party;” while in Ukraine, in my opinion, we should expect disintegration. When people do not get what they dream of, when the difference between what is proclaimed and what is real becomes completely unacceptable, they look for someone to blame. Someone must answer for the failure of the counter-offensive. It will weaken Ukrainian society, split the elites.
When he talks about Russian blood having been shed, we should remember that this man’s daughter was butchered on Russian soil.
There is a long-standing tradition in civilized nations to let the soldiers do the fighting and then when the end is more or less inevitable terms of peace are negotiated whilst the losing side can still seriously damage the victors should they continue the armed conflict.
But that assumes good faith negotiations among parties with similar values. The Germans learned twice last century there is no such thing when dealing with the Western Alliances, including those with Russia in 1945-8. The Russians have recently learned that the Empire of Lies never keeps its word on anything.
Indeed, Dugin later characterizes Western animus against Russia as 'demon-possessed'. My personal feeling is that it would be more accurate to point out that this is mainly thanks to the influential Jewish elements within the Western elites – as was also the case after WWI and WWII.
Lacking such good faith elements, unconditional surrender is the best thing to shoot for though this places the burden on the victor to uphold honourable values. Since the US will never permit Ukraine to surrender, collapse from within Ukraine must be so undeniable that the Jewish Straussians pulling the strings become unable to puppet-march their proxy. A new regime from within Ukraine, probably anti-US-neocon, will arise at which point terms of peace can begin to be negotiated - with, as Dugin suggests, Kiev in the crosshairs.
@ Minaa | Dec 3 2023 14:12 utc | 1
re:". . .von der Leyen solemnly told the EU parliament, ‘Targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with the clear aim to cut off men, women, children [from] water, electricity" . . . ."This rule no longer applies, though, when the ‘targeted attacks’ are committed by an ally of the Western bloc."
That's just for Russia. There's really no such "rule" to be obeyed by the West considering the number of countries who have been laid waste over the years by the West, and the hundreds of thousands of people killed, injured and displaced using "targeted attacks" on civilians.
Let's especially remember recent "shock and awe" on poor Iraq especially. Three hundred thousand lives lost to the West's (except France) 'Coalition of the Willing' in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 16:48 utc | 3
For the postil on the "chosen people"
"This myth gives Israel power over others, especially over Protestant America whose unbounded support is legendary and uncompromising (billions of dollars and weapons), because it believes that it is thus aligned with God’s “Chosen people” (and all manner of Bible quotations are tossed about as “proof” for such support)."
I think that myth is just the popular explanation of why US imperialism is so beholden to the Zionazis. The US hasn't really been run by or majority populated by protestants for a very, very long time. The idea the US foreign policy is run on christian myth is extremely, obviously erroneous too.
I'm afraid it was Marx, an Ashkenazi, and Lenin who revealed the real material reasons US imperialism might be so wedded to the zionazis today.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/
As Ilhan said in a moment of vulgar clarity: it's all about the Benjamins.
The myth of defending a chosen, persecuted ancient people of the bible is just window dressing for US imperialism's use of Israel as a police station in the middle east. The myth that the US govt is anti racist and thus supports BLM is a similar, derivative form of the same cover for pushing a racial divide and rule strategy on the American working class and keeping blacks in solitary confinement in the Dem political prison.
The article is not bad. This ridiculous mythology should be scientifically scrutinized and debunked. It pushes a racial supremacism with no bounds that is now totally out of control and serves as a justification for the genocide of an entire people.
Still, the material reality underpinning all this is the root of the problem and must be grasped before this hideous racial supremacist state can be crushed as it deserves.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 16:56 utc | 4
As the talented minaa@4 tells us there are several very provocative links.
This one for example, written by a 'rural Canadian'-could be a neighbour- from the Postil.
If we hard some saying these things- which are extremely weird and incredibly dated- we would probably smile privately and lament the low standard of scientific education around us.
But the sad truth is that people who think like this are actually being supplied with real guns, live ammunition and even have access to nuclear weapons.
How frightening is that?
Just look at Gaza-another 1000 casualties today and this sort of ugly racism is the reason why.
"...is there a distinct racial stock that can be clearly labeled as “Jew?” The state of Israel certainly thinks so, for it has various racial laws in place (the Jewish Nation-State Law, the Law of “Return,” the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law). This protection now also includes a state-mandated DNA test to determine the racial qualification of anyone wanting to immigrate to Israel. In fact, it is illegal and thus impossible for ordinary Israelis to get a DNA test (as commonly done in the rest of the world, as a personal, fun, genealogical project)—such a test is only possible via court order (the Genetic Information Law 5761, passed in 2000)—because only the state of Israel can say who is a proper “Jew.” Such racial policing by the state implies that Israeli bureaucracy possesses clear and precise racial biomarkers. The notion of a distinct race of “Jews” is paramount—which guarantees Israel’s uniqueness. Without it, the logic of Israel as a “the land for Jews” falls apart, and it would then be a country like any other in this world, where just ordinary folk live..."
https://www.thepostil.com/who-is-a-jew-race-the-chosen-people-and-biopolitics/
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 17:00 utc | 5
@ DunGroanin | Dec 3 2023 15:09 utc | 6
re: India in Multipolar World, Where US Lost Its Dominance”
India's poor human relations starting to become known alters the US 'pivot to the Pacific" which included:
> The expectation that India would swing away from neutral and go with the West.
> The re-naming of the US Pacific command to INDOPACOM.
> The ginning up of a new US alliance -- The Quad, with US, Japan, Australia and India.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 17:02 utc | 6
" we heard someone saying these things"
I can't even blame the keyboard any more for these typos. Its not autocorrect either. Just sheer idleness..
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 17:03 utc | 7
" we heard someone saying these things"
I can't even blame the keyboard any more for these typos. Its not autocorrect either. Just sheer idleness..
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 17:03 utc | 8
Great comments on this thread, which is so far unpolluted by trolls or bomb-throwers. This kind of conversation, in addition to b’s excellent contributions and curation, is why I have become so reliant on MoA for information and sanity maintenance. Many thanks.
Posted by: KMRIA | Dec 3 2023 17:17 utc | 9
@ DunGroanin | Dec 3 2023 15:09 utc | 6
re: some shithole satrap island in the Pacific fails to ignite or when India goes all-in and is drag
That might be Second Thomas Shoal, which both Philippines and China claim, near the Philippines where President Bonbong Marcos, who recently got elected with pro-China promises, switched over to a full support of the US military expansion into the area along with a US promise to support the Mutual Defense Treaty. . .over a pile of rocks.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 17:21 utc | 10
@ DunGroanin | Dec 3 2023 15:09 utc | 6
re: some shithole satrap island in the Pacific fails to ignite or when India goes all-in and is drag
That might be Second Thomas Shoal, which both Philippines and China claim, near the Philippines where President Bonbong Marcos, who recently got elected with pro-China promises, switched over to a full support of the US military expansion into the area along with a US promise to support the Mutual Defense Treaty. . .over a pile of rocks.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 17:21 utc | 11
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelans are voting in a referendum Sunday called by President Nicolás Maduro to claim sovereignty over a large swath of neighboring Guyana, arguing the oil- and mineral-rich territory was stolen when the border was drawn more than a century ago.
Guyana considers the referendum a step toward annexation, and the vote has its residents on edge. It asks Venezuelans whether they support establishing a state in the disputed territory, known as Essequibo, granting citizenship to current and future area residents and rejecting the jurisdiction of the United Nations' top court in settling the disagreement between the two South American countries.
Venezuelans vote in a referendum to claim sovereignty of a large territory under dispute with Guyana
This is also, in case you are wondering, a resource war.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 17:22 utc | 12
Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 3 2023 15:09 utc | 6
The only thing that can stop history ever-repeating is
<=to arm every man woman and child of age and to disarm the nation state system.
ALAE nation state system exist, there will be villains who will use it to destroy any and all competition to their empire building. Humanity must make the institutions of society and state dependent on humanity; as things exist now, humanity is dependent on the state and its institutions. Its rediculus to accept that the institution of the state can protect humanity from the need of a few to dominate; the few own the state.
Humanity must understand it is at war with those who use the nation in the state system as proxies for their crimes against humanity. Unless and until humanity from the bottom up controls what happens at the top nothing about the top down is likely to change.
Posted by: snake | Dec 3 2023 17:40 utc | 13
So the house Republicans are getting serious about impeaching Biden:
GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis suggested Sunday that House Republicans should focus on issues voters care about instead of an impeachment inquiry into President Biden.DeSantis told NBC's Kristen Welker on "Meet the Press" that while he believes the Biden family is "corrupt" and that opening an impeachment inquiry is "justifiable," the effort will likely be a dead end. He said House Republicans have been ignoring border security, the economy and the "overstepping" of federal agencies.
"I think they run the risk of doing an inquiry that doesn't necessarily lead anywhere while they've been ignoring a lot of the problems that our voters are talking about," DeSantis said.
DeSantis wants House GOP to focus on issues, not Biden impeachment
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 17:48 utc | 14
In the Indian Punchline article the last two paragraphs indicate what could be an explanation to the sudden BRICS (or CRIBS?) hesitance and US pivotting for India. A little more explanation can be found here : https://www.deccanherald.com/india/nikhil-gupta-indictment-series-of-accusations-spiral-india-us-diplomacy-into-frenzy-heres-all-you-need-to-know-2791105
Posted by: Baddy | Dec 3 2023 17:51 utc | 15
This is for a few people who post on b's blog.
Hysteria over Treasury auctions is sheer stupidity.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1_3jmfsuw
Do you get it now ?
I've been trying to tell you the truth. It's obvious now right?
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 3 2023 17:54 utc | 16
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 16:56 utc | 9
Marx was not an Ashkenazi since he did not perceive himself as a Jew. This is an identity issue and not a "racial" one and AFAIK the Moor did not identify as Jewish. His religious predilection was towards CHristianity - as his own daughter candidly revealed - and in his essay about the Jewish "issue" in Europe, he clearly didn't perceive himself as part of said community.
That is not to say that he was an anti-Semite (he openly advocated for the emancipation of the Jews), although he had a particular loathing for Judaism as a religion. He aslo expressed some bewikderment about the definition of this ethno-religious group.
In any case, this confusion about Jewish domination - one that even Nasrallah criticized - stems from the almost unconditional support of the Anglosphere and the west in general for Zionism. Well, starting from the fact that CHristian Zionism predates the Jewish one by a couple of centuries in the Anglosphere and the prominence of the contemporary non-Jewish Zionists, it's obvious that this ideology is in fact a form of western supremacism, pushed because it allowa deniability by the politically correct neo-colonialists. It is in fact, an extension of Anglo-American and western supremacism.
The comment of the poster "Minaa" actually expresses the western supremacist premises of Zionism very succinctly.
Posted by: Constantine | Dec 3 2023 17:56 utc | 17
I can guarentee the ideologue and idiot will still harp on and on about Treasury auctions. They will still say Nobody will by the bonds and link it with de- dollarisation. I can guarentee it. These people are everywhere.
They refuse to learn and never step outside an ideological GROUPTHINK that has been instilled in them.
It's tragic, a very, very, sad state of affairs. A bunch of clowns have instilled complete and utter myths in their minds. It is sad so sad.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 3 2023 18:04 utc | 18
UK support to the Zionists getting more open every day. Cameron visited Israel last week just when the Belgian and Spanish PM were visiting but had added meetings and a declaration from Rafah in support of the Palestinians
(from the Palestine thread)
In direct support for Israel's homicidal rampage, the UK has confirmed it will "conduct surveillance flights over the Eastern Mediterranean, including operating in airspace over Israel and Gaza." These reconnaissance missions will pass information directly to the IDF.
UK spokespersons claim these efforts are solely for purposes of "hostage rescue activity", although there are no known or identified British hostages detained by Hamas.
Posted by: Minaa | Dec 3 2023 18:13 utc | 19
Echo Chamber | Dec 3 2023 18:04 utc | 18
You are beginning to define yourself as a monomaniac. Which is a pity because we have seen that you have other ideas and quite interesting ones too.
This particular post of yours is like a sudden clap of thunder in the middle of a picnic- it has nothing to do with the subject under discussion.
Except of course, as you will tell us now, everything is related to monetary theories and all the evil in the world comes from a misunderstanding of the nature of currency.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 18:17 utc | 20
Minaa | Dec 3 2023 18:13 utc | 19
Britain is anxious that the Israelis should learn of the location of all hostages so that they can be killed before they go on TV and tell the world how well-in the circumstances- thet were treated.
Seventy five years after throwing up its hands withdrawing protection from the palestinians it was sworn to defend and watching the unfolding obscenities of the Nakba, the British government has managed to go even lower, and lower.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 18:20 utc | 21
People online are calling the republicans in congress in America crazy for voting out one of their members George Santos because it jeopardizes their control over congress. Those who voted him out are in fact part of the "Uniparty" and don't want republicans in control. This tells the details on the history of the Cowboy (corporate conservatives) and Yankee (corporate liberals) War, the two main factions of American elites, and how they then joined forces under neocons/Clinton/Bush to become the Uniparty (corporate) vs Cowboys (Trump voters). See: The Uniparty and Cowboy War
Posted by: kana | Dec 3 2023 18:20 utc | 22
If asked to do so. You could easily list hundreds of things, good things that every community could have and some by human right.
If only the one party nation state stopped poisoning voters minds with this complete and utter bullshit.
Finding the money is the very easy part but they have convinced millions upon millions of people that it is the hard part. In such a fucking evil Orwellian fashion.
They should all be dragged In front of the Hague for it and every statue of Friedman and Monetarism demolished.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 3 2023 18:22 utc | 23
thanks b for the many interesting links...
if you are wondering why some posts are missing ------------ i guess this explains it..
"Use as open (not Ukraine or Palestine related) thread ..."
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 18:23 utc | 24
just in from from Stars and Stripes
Secretary of Defense Austin calls out those who advocate isolationism and ‘an American retreat from responsibility’
SIMI VALLEY, Calif. — Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Saturday denounced those who advocate “an American retreat from responsibility” and said sustained U.S. leadership is needed to help keep the world as safe, free and prosperous as possible. He also urged Congress to end the partisan gridlock that has stalled the federal budget and war spending.The United States must reject calls to turn away from global interests and become more isolationist, he told an audience of lawmakers, corporate and defense leaders and government officials attending a security conference. Those who “try to pull up the drawbridge,” he said, undermine the security that has led to decades of prosperity. . . here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 18:24 utc | 25
UK spokespersons claim these efforts are solely for purposes of "hostage rescue activity", although there are no known or identified British hostages detained by Hamas.
Posted by: Minaa | Dec 3 2023 18:13 utc | 19
Bibi really doesn't want to have to deal with the hostages, especially live hostages who were treated well. I expect that is why he started the war up again.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 18:25 utc | 26
@ Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 17:22 utc | 12
that is a very interesting development.. thanks for pointing that out..
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 18:26 utc | 27
Say, where did the post by Minaa | Dec 3 2023 14:12 utc | 1 go?
I was trying to re-read it for clarity.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 3 2023 18:26 utc | 28
@ Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 18:24 utc | 25
that is a fine bit of insanity right there... having someone in a position of power think 180% opposite of reality defines much of the usa foreign policy and internal policy for quite a number of years too... complete insanity.. thanks for sharing don..
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 18:28 utc | 30
that is a very interesting development.. thanks for pointing that out..
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 18:26 utc | 27
Hi james, nice to see you around.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 18:31 utc | 31
Sakineh
b trashed it.. he could have added the link to the list above. It was OT (related to Palestine although it was also on independent journalism) and I posted it before there was a new Palestine thread actually.
https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2023/11/BREVILLE/66269
Posted by: Minaa | Dec 3 2023 18:54 utc | 32
sorry, English version here
https://mondediplo.com/2023/11/12independent-journalism
Posted by: Minaa | Dec 3 2023 18:57 utc | 33
[email protected] might ask, with today's guided missiles, why Hamas and various linked militias are not targeting and destroying dual purpose infrastructure, it's not like the Occupiers can return the favour, they are bound and restricted to killing buildings full of civilians, having already destroyed what little infrastructure the Palestinians had.
Do you figure the same oligarch rules apply to Occupied Palestine as they do to 404, "blow up whatever you want, just leave our stuff alone?"
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 3 2023 19:05 utc | 34
@ Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 18:31 utc | 31
thanks.. ditto! there are many wonderfully informed folks at moa and i am very appreciative of being a part of this community..
regarding the postil article on the jews - biopolitics and etc, shlomo sands wrote a very thorough book in this - the invention of the jewish people... this myth continues... sort of like the myth of the usa being an exceptional nation.. sorry, but it ain't and neither are the jews the chosen ones... these myths generate a lot of feel good stuff, but it is a load of b.s. and it preys on minds easily duped.. i guess there are a lot of those to go around.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People
i wouldn't call wikipedia neutral by a long shot, but it gives a starting point for me anyway... the idea that a country can be founded on a religion or ethnicity after the fact is also quite insane, but it seems this is what zionism has been pushing for some time... in ordinary circumstances, most would think this is nuts... but myth is a powerful force in all of our lives, personal and collective and it is hard to dispel it and what comes with it easily..
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 19:07 utc | 35
Let's especially remember recent "shock and awe" on poor Iraq especially. Three hundred thousand lives lost to the West's (except France) 'Coalition of the Willing' in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 16:48 utc | 3
just to perhaps add to the historical record, about the numbers of people killed in the Iraq war by the USA-UK and its coalition of the unwilling.
I have become a bit tired at times of reading people saying a few hundreds of thousands, when in fact it was well above a million killed. And that does not include the many millions of internally displaced people and all the refugees who went to other countries. Another sad and enormous story in itself
How Many Millions of People Have Been Killed in America’s Post-9/11 Wars? – Part One: Iraq
"...That gives us a minimum of 760,000 Iraqis killed SINCE July 2007, and a maximum of 2.04 million.
Adding these figures to the minimums and maximums we calculated for the period up to June 2007 gives us total minimum and maximum figures for the entire period since the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq in 2003. We can estimate that the number of Iraqis killed as a consequence of the illegal invasion of their country must be somewhere between 1.5 million and 3.4 million. As is generally the case with such statistical ranges, the actual number of people killed is likely to be closer to our main estimate of 2.38 million than to either the minimum or maximum end of this range...."
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 3 2023 19:11 utc | 36
but myth is a powerful force in all of our lives, personal and collective and it is hard to dispel it and what comes with it easily..
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 19:07 utc | 35
It is indeed. I have long been a fan of Arthur Koestler, the Thirteenth Tribe, and several others of his. Wikipedia is OK but not great for things which are not politicized. I like old Britanicas for lots of things, if you just want to get a picture. But a lot of things are politicized these days, we live in world which is manufactured for us, by "marketing gurus". A critical eye and unwillingness to believe is what serves best. Have no faith in the works of men. We are all corruptable, and that is not always a bad thing.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 19:23 utc | 37
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 16:56 utc | 4
'On the Jewish Question' has nothing to do with imperialism. It's the early Marx critiquing Bruno Bauer on the character of civil society. It's really got nothing to do with 'Jews' per se.
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 19:34 utc | 38
Posted by: fake james | Dec 3 2023 19:35 utc | 39
Go away.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 19:41 utc | 39
As readers have discovered, "Putin Talks With Young Scientists Again" is filled with all sorts of information not being reported. This is the third recent deep interaction Putin has had, the other two are linked within the article. While reading, recalling what Martyanov has written profusely about over the years and this recent short essay by Scott Ritter, "The End of US Nuclear Superiority", should be added to the mix to understand the actual levels of expertise existing in Russia versus the Outlaw US Empire. The comment made about the vaporization of Bell Labs is very appropriate. Yes, the read is long as are the two that are linked.
Austin told the truth in one respect, it is all about prosperity. he lied about who prospers from the war machine tho. it isn't the american people.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 3 2023 19:49 utc | 41
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 20:08 utc | 45
Thanks, I'm going back to ignoring trolls.
"Yap yap yap, it's like a whiney little dog chewing on your ankle."
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 3 2023 20:12 utc | 42
As the occupying power, Isreal is limited to essentially police actions and is responsible for paying for damages….
See UNR 194 from 1948
As well as ICJ opinion from 2004
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-178825/
Posted by: Exile | Dec 3 2023 20:16 utc | 43
Posted by: Constantine | Dec 3 2023 17:56 utc | 17In any case, this confusion about Jewish domination - one that even Nasrallah criticized - stems from the almost unconditional support of the Anglosphere and the west in general for Zionism. Well, starting from the fact that CHristian Zionism predates the Jewish one by a couple of centuries in the Anglosphere and the prominence of the contemporary non-Jewish Zionists, it's obvious that this ideology is in fact a form of western supremacism, pushed because it allows deniability by the politically correct neo-colonialists. It is in fact, an extension of Anglo-American and western supremacism.
Possibly so. But there are many who attribute subversive Jewish agency to Protestantism (along with their infiltration into Roman Catholic institutions including the Papacy). So that it predates later Jewish Zionism is not that significant. First they developed a support base - using Freemasonry as an anti-Christian secret society in the heart of Christendom which successfully undermined most Western societies - then they came forward with their own thrust which resulted in what is called Israel.
In any case, all people are susceptible to supremacy-itis. Most individuals will put themselves over others, their own family over others, their own sense of 'us over any 'them'. Indeed, most populations are easy to manipulate along those lines. Most Chinese are easily persuaded that all whites are inferior, for example; indeed, it would be strange if it were otherwise.
Politicized belief systems are easy to both engender and exploit. What is key is that other players in the mix do not buy into them as the Arab world, for example, has done for far too long. Although the English Empire fell during WW II, they have lacked the strength to chart their own course and so have been abused. One can demonize the West - as the old top dogs they deserve it - but without others stepping up, for which only they are responsible, nothing much will change.
Am I the only one who skips a comment when the word Freemasonry appears?
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:32 utc | 45
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 3 2023 20:33 utc | 47
that isn't james. hence the ip scrambler.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 3 2023 20:39 utc | 46
Does anyone know of a _good_ site detailing information gathered by the James Webb Space Telescope?
nasa.gov seems the source of all coverage. There is a fair bit of batshit crazy stuff around claiming to be based on the JWST. Is there some source for all the wild speculations apart from the nasa.gov stories and their links to journal articles? As far as I can tell, and to oversimplify, the gist is that objects have been observed earlier than expected. Which could mean a great many interesting things... but is a far cry from the claims being made. Damn stupid modern internet.
Posted by: Rae | Dec 3 2023 20:42 utc | 47
Posted by: Rae | Dec 3 2023 20:42 utc | 49
James Webb was a notorious Freemason who practiced unholy rites in the basement of a pizzeria in New Haven.
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:44 utc | 48
Posted by: Rae | Dec 3 2023 20:42 utc | 49
Did I forget to add that his space telescope was used to blackmail Epstein to raise funds for the CIA's failed attempt to have a Martian elected Pope?
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:47 utc | 49
Am I the only one who skips a comment when the word Freemasonry appears?
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:32 utc | 46
Definitely a good rule of thumb.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 21:05 utc | 50
On the Jewish Question' has nothing to do with imperialism. It's the early Marx critiquing Bruno Bauer on the character of civil society. It's really got nothing to do with 'Jews' per se.
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 19:34 utc | 38
You're right. That's why I added Lenin.
However, OTJQ is a valuable insight into the proto Zionists of Europe like the famous Moses Hess. Bauer is the direct target (personally I think Marx went over the top on Bauer who was a valuable materialist historian) but there's definitely some fire for the messianic Jewish element that orbited Marxism before Balfour.
Together, the essays provide the root and the branch of the current zionazi "integument" on the global stage.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 21:12 utc | 51
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:44 utc | 50
he was in charge of putting the pineapple on pizzas, to his everlasting shame.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 3 2023 21:16 utc | 52
Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 3 2023 21:16 utc | 54
James Webb was Hawaiian? There's your connection: Cook was a freemason and Webb saw him coming with his telescope; Cook converted him and in return Webb taught Cook the unspeakable rites of pineapple.
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 21:28 utc | 53
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:32 utc | 46
no.
and that's not all.
Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 3 2023 21:55 utc | 54
Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 20:32 utc | 46
I almost missed that comment.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 22:16 utc | 55
Re Green China, I'm glad someone is doing somethng practical to counter global warming. EV won't solve the whole problem, but it's a beginning.
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The assumptions of Biden and co., that Chinese people are stupid, and that he can make them backward and submissive by not selling them some type of computer chip is really stupid. Both team D and team R share these stupid assumptions.
Posted by: lester | Dec 3 2023 22:19 utc | 56
US And UK Military Contractors Created Sweeping Plan For Global Censorship In 2018.
https://public.substack.com/p/ctil-files-1-us-and-uk-military-contractors
Whistleblower makes trove of new documents available to Public and Racket, showing the birth of the Censorship Industrial Complex in reaction to Brexit and Trump election in 2016.
Posted by: Winston, journalist | Dec 3 2023 22:30 utc | 57
"Let's especially remember recent "shock and awe" on poor Iraq especially. Three hundred thousand lives lost to the West's (except France) 'Coalition of the Willing' in Operation Iraqi Freedom."
Bush II was/is a Dispensationalist. His invasion of Iraq was meant to fulfill prophecy and bring back Jesus, to reward the righteous (Bush and evangelicals) and punish the wicked (you and me). Jesus, being a middle east guy, did not cooperate!
Posted by: lester | Dec 3 2023 22:31 utc | 58
"... that Chinese people are stupid, and that he can make them backward and submissive by not selling them some type of computer chip is really stupid. Both team D and team R share these stupid assumptions..." lester@59
I suspect that this is related to the takeover of both parties by Hindutva operatives, working hand in hand with zionists (see Nikki Haley, Tulsi Gabbard etc etc). For these guys, as our old friend antonym illustrates, the deprecation of anything and everything Chinese is Rule #1.
sean the leprechaun@34
I wonder how 'guided' those missiles are. We will only find out if electoral necessity, in Israel and the US, dictates the taking on of Lebanon, in which case Hezbollah will stop bothering about keeping powder dry.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 22:34 utc | 59
"just in from from Stars and Stripes
Secretary of Defense Austin calls out those who advocate isolationism and ‘an American retreat from responsibility’ "
Yet every administration imposes more economic sanctions on countries around the world, in effect, erecting a Great Wall between the US economy (what's left of it) and the rest of the world. How long before they end up like Ming/Qing dynasty China, economically closed off from the rest of humanity? It didn't work out well, in the long run!
Posted by: lester | Dec 3 2023 22:36 utc | 60
Germany forced itself to buy lots and lots of LNG.
While some proponents of LNG have argued it has a climate benefit by replacing coal, the analysis presented here disproves this.
Across all scenarios considered, total greenhouse gas emissions from LNG are larger than those from coal, ranging from 24% to 274% greater.
Blowing up those pesky Nordstream pipelines is proving costly, both financially and environmentally.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-smoking-gun-for-bidens-big-climate-decision
Posted by: Winston, journalist | Dec 3 2023 22:37 utc | 61
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 16:56 utc | 4
'On the Jewish Question' has nothing to do with imperialism. It's the early Marx critiquing Bruno Bauer on the character of civil society. It's really got nothing to do with 'Jews' per se.
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 3 2023 19:34 utc | 38
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Patroklos, I Marx on the Jewish Question is a good read to help understand why Jews have had such a hard time settling in with European's states and why Zionism was almost inevitable.
But it is not a critique of imperialism like Lenin's seminal work on the subject: Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, and a damn good read event though it was penned over 100 years ago. History has proven that Lenin was correct about the inevitable evolution of capitalism, but not much about the Jewish issue.
Stalin's pamphlet [https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm], though short, dealt with the National Question and the unique issues for autonomy that the Jew's required for a homeland, from a Marxist perspective.
The essence of the problem in Palestine today is to be found in the contradictions between the Jewish desire for national autonomy and a homeland (or a Jewish State) on the one hand, and the Israeli's need to be free of all foreign people, their laws, their customs, and their [the outsiders] freedoms due to the Jews "special" relationship with God that required a truly autonomous Jewish State that can never be host to another non-Jewish people, because the outsider would be required to accept the laws and protocols of the Torah in a Jewish State just as the wondering Jews were required to retreat behind the citizen, and be a citizen, although he is a Jew and is to remain a Jew, while living in a Christian European country: for the Jews this was a great humiliation unless they shed their Jewishness and become a Christian, as many did.
Marx noted in his his work: On the Jewish Question. that:
"The German Jew, in particular, is confronted by the general absence of political and [religious] emancipation and the strongly marked Christian [non-Jewish] character of the state. In Bauer’s conception, however, the Jewish question has a universal significance, independent of specifically German conditions. It is the question of the relation of religion to the state, of the contradiction between religious constraint and political emancipation. Emancipation from religion is laid down as a condition, both to the Jew who wants to be emancipated politically, and to the state which is to effect emancipation and is itself to be emancipated."
“...the Jew is to become emancipated not as a Jew, not because he is a Jew, not because he possesses such an excellent, universally human principle of morality; on the contrary, the Jew will retreat behind the citizen and be a citizen, although he is a Jew and is to remain a Jew. That is to say, he is and remains a Jew, although he is a citizen and lives in universally human conditions: his Jewish and restricted nature triumphs always in the end over his human and political obligations. The [Jewish] prejudice remains in spite of being outstripped by general principles. But if it remains, then, on the contrary, it outstrips everything else.”
“Only sophistically, only apparently, would the Jew be able to remain a Jew in the life of the [Christian] state. Hence, if he wanted to remain a Jew, the mere appearance would become the essential and would triumph; that is to say, his life in the [Christian] state would be only a semblance or only a temporary exception to the essential and the rule.” (“The Capacity of Present-Day [1844] Jews and Christians to Become Free,” Einundzwanzig Bogen, pp.57
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
Box enclosed [Ed] comments are my additions for clarification.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 22:44 utc | 62
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 22:44 utc | 65
So, the thing I would love to see is Bauer's original essay that Marx is responding to here. Preferably translated into English.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 22:48 utc | 63
From the Valdai Club article in the Russia section above:
Our argument about the crumbling of the world order was voiced for the first time in the 2018 report. We wrote about how the West’s pressure on the rest of the world is one of the last attempts to maintain its dominance, which is coming to an end. For 500 years, the West has been a key and influential centre of power and political initiative. Key conflicts took place in the West, and key innovations and political ideas arose in Western countries. Today, the centre of global economic gravity is inevitably shifting to the East."Somewhat belatedly, the centre of political initiative will also shift to the East. This phenomenon will not be a short-term one, but it will become a determining process during the 21st century and, most likely, beyond."
The West is well aware of the inevitability of this process. Its pressure on the rest of the world, on the non-West, on Russia and on China is an attempt to slow down the shift to the East or to preserve Western initiative in the complex new world, and to achieve preferential terms of interaction with the rest of the world.
The fact that the West will become another region of the world on a par with others, an important and significant one, but not a global leader or hegemon, is the most important characteristic feature of the emerging order. The world is becoming uniformly dense, complex and influential. However, this process will take some time and will not happen overnight.
Have emboldened an important point: the Western elites - who themselves are split in various factions of course - all know that the Unipolar moment has passed. I think many pundits and some barflies keep imagining that they are not aware of this and are crazily trying to hold on or regain the old configuration.
No, they are jostling for the best position possible once this unstoppable reshuffling period is resolved and whilst so doing putting up roadblocks for the RoW, possibly as a bargaining chip (if you treat us well we will make it easier for you to go forward) and possibly to limit what they perceive as damage to their interests.
In any case, I think it a mistake to regard them as simpletons the way many do.
all of a piece
Recalling, (a) innumerable AFRICOM bases, "US America's Security in Africa", (b) Mali "coup" Jan 2022, (c) Munich Security Conference 2022: Ukraine and Sahel Alliances, (d) 2022-2023 malign Russian influence, Grain from Ukraine to "The Horn", and Wagnerpobia agitprop, (e) umpteenth SAF v. RSF "proxy war" Apr 2023, (f) UN MONUC/MONUSCO (20 Dec) and UN MINUSMA (31 Dec) scheduled exits 2023, (g) Kuleba's aborted 2022 tour to place embassies in select W. African states, (h) Niger 2023 "military coup", quashed AFRICOM-proxy ECOWAS "military intervention", (i)Videos Show Ukrainian 'Big Israel' Special Forces 'Cleaning Up' Wagner Fighters in Sudan(6 Nov 2023)
Comment by sln2002 | December 03, 2023 at 13:47 | Permalink
on Empire: state.gov re-loading for 2024
US is scrambling to avoid another foreign policy crisis — this time in Congo
A top U.S. intelligence official presented a detailed proposal to the leaders of [Democratic Republic of] Congo and Rwanda last week for a pact to reduce fighting in eastern Congo—and promised to help enforce the deal.Readout of Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s Travel to Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda (23 Nov)The Biden administration previously said that Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines flew to the region last week to “secure commitments” from Congolese [Tshisekedi] and Rwandan [Kagama] leaders to deescalate [sic] fighting and that they “plan to take specific steps to reduce current tensions.” But the administration did not disclose the extent to which the U.S. was designing and overseeing the plan.
[...]"U.S. efforts to counter China on the continent."
This month, Secretary of State Antony Blinken reached out to leaders of both countries, asking them to deescalate [sic] and engage in diplomatic talks to end the fighting. But the meeting between Haines and the leaders of Congo and Rwanda is a higher-level [?!] engagement with more specific asks.EU Green Deal, US Inflation Reduction critical mineral extraction
[...]
“The Chinese have cornered the market on Congolese minerals and have for a number of years. And we have in office right now in Congo, a government which has at least shown itself amenable to revisiting those contracts,” said Cameron Hudson, a former intelligence analyst for Africa at the CIA. “A glaring piece of this that I think undermines all of this is that there’s a proxy war [DRC < M23 < Kagame] going on in the eastern part of the country.”
[...]
Beijing is Kinshasa’s largest trading partner, having gobbled up key mining rights beginning in the 2000s. Its control over the market has put it far ahead of the U.S. race to secure critical components needed for electric vehicle batteries. In an effort to find a way into that market, the U.S. in September signed a memorandum of understanding with Congo and Zambia to help stand up a supply chain for the batteries. The administration also committed to help develop a new rail line that will connect southern Congo and northwestern Zambia via the Lobito Port in Angola. The pathway is critical for the export of minerals key to EV battery production.reference
Regional Programme of Action for Economic Development and Regional Integration 2006
USA Investment in Lobito Corridor Rail Line is a Positive Game Changer, May 2023 Zambia
Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 3 2023 22:50 utc | 65
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 22:44 utc | 65
So, the thing I would love to see is Bauer's original essay that Marx is responding to here. Preferably translated into English.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 22:48 utc | 66
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This might help:
The Jewish Question is an 1843 book by German historian and theologian Bruno Bauer, written and published in German (original title Die Judenfrage).[1]
Bauer argued that Jews can achieve political emancipation only if they relinquish their particular religious consciousness, since political emancipation requires a secular state, which he assumes does not leave any "space" for social identities such as religion. According to Bauer, such religious demands are incompatible with the idea of the "Rights of Man." True political emancipation, for Bauer, requires the abolition of religion. He described the contemporary concept of Jewish nationalism as "chimerical" and "baseless".[2][3]
In his commentary On the Jewish Question also published in 1843, Karl Marx criticizes[how?] Bauer's book as well as Die Fähigkeit der heutigen Juden und Christen, frei zu werden ("The Capacity of Present-day Jews and Christians to Become Free").[4]
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 23:03 utc | 66
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 3 2023 22:48 utc | 66
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Everything related to Bruno Bauer the Marxist internet has been purchased by Lawrence & Wishart, who hold the copyright for the Marx Engels Collected Works and has been expunged from the Marxist Internet. See the comment below when you try to open a site that contains any information in any Marx or Engels writings about Bauer.
"The file you have tried to access originated from the Marx Engels Collected Works. Lawrence & Wishart, who hold the copyright for the Marx Engels Collected Works, have directed Marxists Internet Archive to delete all texts originating from MECW. Accordingly, from 30th April 2014, no material from MECW is available from marxists.org. English translations of Marx and Engels from other sources will continue to be available."
I read something a few years ago about some Jewish outfit buying Marxist literature only to make it unavailable to the public. Bruno Bauer was accused of being an anti-Semite in his day. Not to put too fine of a point on it, but current events might be proving old Bruno correct.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 23:39 utc | 67
There are more rumors the financial and banking system might be imminently "blowing up".
US government debt no longer meets bank collateral requirements for tier 1 capital, and FED can't print money (QE) at the same time as they are trying to drain liquidity, which is a paradox. FED holds a huge amount of mortgage backed securities as collateral in their reverse repo operation and it is becoming worthless. The reverse repo is a way for commercial banks to make short term swaps of their bonds or mortgage backed securities in exchange for cash to complete their short term funding liabilities and it seems to no longer be possible.
https://twitter.com/MikeCristo8/status/1731213319577702643
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 3 2023 23:40 utc | 68
@lester | Dec 3 2023 22:36 utc | 63
re: US economic sanctions in fact reflect US isolationism
Good point, I missed it.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 3 2023 23:54 utc | 69
Ed@70
The works themselves cannot be in copyright. I doubt whether even L&W's Collected Works meaning the translations, selectiins, notes etc can still be in copyright either.
Where is the "Internet" located? Is that where the copyright jurisdiction comes in?
It is very curious.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 4 2023 0:07 utc | 70
Posted by: bevin | Dec 4 2023 0:07 utc | 73
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I agree with you bevin; It is very curious. But I don't understand it: It seems that only the stuff referring to Bruno Bauer (there could be other stuff, I don't know) is blocked out. Try it yourself. In the German Ideology and in the writings by Bruno Bauer, that comment pops up with the message as shown above. But why would someone want to block writings almost 180 years old; shouldn't that be in public domain?
I have a paperback copy of the German Ideology, so I have access to the information, but my copy is the Chinese paperback from almost 30 years ago. I am thinking that this has something to do with censorship of all things considered "antisemitic."
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 0:33 utc | 71
Thank you b, and thank you james at 35 - one of your longest posts in a while, and you sent me on a journey, which I'm happy to describe here:
"...but myth is a powerful force in all of our lives, personal and collective and it is hard to dispel it and what comes with it easily.."
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 19:07 utc | 35
Probably you were thinking something entirely different, but I am so glad you made this observation, as I had woken up this morning wondering why Plato ended so many of his dialogues in myth. I haven't remembered an answer to this, so I went to my 'master' of all things Platonic, Bernard Suzanne who has the site below. Well, before I can explore what he says about myth, I may have to read the entire site, but here's where I have begun:
https://www.plato-dialogues.org/pdf/Plato_user_s_guide.pdf
This is a long essay which has to be read very slowly -- I've only got through the first three or four pages so far. It was composed by Suzanne in 2022 and he's four years younger than me so I hope he will keep on writing such essays! I've had to copy out some of the main sentences in order to follow his train of thought; it isn't easy. I will see if I can give a taste in my next post. His thesis is a current one, so I'm hoping others will be interested. (And when I get to the answer to my question about myths, I will let everyone know!)
Posted by: juliania | Dec 4 2023 0:42 utc | 72
reply to 63
I am waiting for some US politician to propose armed neutrality as the solution. Not interventionism, not isolationism. Renew nuclear weapons, train a smaller and better army and drop alliances.
Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 4 2023 0:46 utc | 73
Posted by: juliania | Dec 4 2023 0:42 utc | 75
Thanks for the link!
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 0:33 utc | 74
https://archive.org/details/BauerBrunoDieJudenfrage1843127S.Fraktur/page/n7/mode/2up
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 4 2023 1:16 utc | 74
Generally speaking, being mindful of the following may be quite useful at times.
Brandolini’s law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage coined in 2013 that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. The law states the following: "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law
Hitchens’s razor is an epistemological razor that serves as a general rule for rejecting certain knowledge claims. It states “what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.” The razor was created by and named after author and journalist Christopher Hitchens (1949–2011). It implies that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Dec 4 2023 1:25 utc | 75
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 0:33 utc | 74
https://archive.org/details/BauerBrunoDieJudenfrage1843127S.Fraktur/page/n7/mode/2up
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 4 2023 1:16 utc | 77
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It looks like they put it behind a paywall. Thanks !
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 1:26 utc | 76
"...but myth is a powerful force in all of our lives, personal and collective and it is hard to dispel it and what comes with it easily.."
Posted by: james | Dec 3 2023 19:07 utc | 35
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Like the myth that the Jews are God's chosen people. It is powerful I am sure if you believe you are chosen by God, or you are an evangelical Christian that belives the myth that God will return after the Jews (most who are going to hell for rejecting Jesus) genocide all the Palestinian people and tear down the Al-Aqṣā Mosque in Jerusalem so that the Jews can build a "Third" Tempel so that Jesus can comback and destroy all the non-belivers. A real blood cult.
Because many millions of people belive this, it is indead powerful. because power is the ability to infulance the activities of large numbers of people. Now, a large majority of the Western world is rooting for genocide.
I think myths are more dangrous than than benign: But that is just my opinion.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 1:54 utc | 77
China is going to float U.S. gold price to $2,500 this week to break the U.S. Banks,
OPEC countries now hold Renminbi.
OPEC did another 1mm bbl production cut on Friday December 1st
🚨🚨China will break the U.S. gold paper contracts,
🚨🚨China will break the U.S. Treasury bond market,
The Reverse Repo will be drained to ZERO this week!
The G-SIB's will all collapse.
ANSWER; ISO 20022 prevents the Fed from ever doing QE again.
Basel III
🚨🚨U.S. Treasury bonds no longer serve as the (global reserve asset) collateral that trades oil to value America’s debt.
China is now coordinating the float the gold price to $2,500 this week to coincide with the Reverse Repo drain.
https://twitter.com/MikeCristo8/status/1731485386168467679
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2023 1:59 utc | 78
@ unimperator | Dec 4 2023 1:59 utc | 81 with the speculation about China and gold prices...thanks
I just read a posting at ZH with the title
Gold Spikes To Record High Over $2,130, Bitcoin Soars Above $40,000 As Market Calls Powell's Bluff
I have been watching the difference in gold price at the China run Shanghai Exchange and the London Exchange and this posting reported the Shanghai price $43 dollars per ounce higher. I read some say that when the spread gets to $75/oz the SHTF big time.
Interesting times, eh?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 4 2023 2:18 utc | 79
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 4 2023 2:18 utc | 82
There are claims that China holds much more gold than their official records say. There's also the local provinces which hold gold and are not in the records published foreignly.
I think controlling Middle East (Saudi, Iran, US losing control of Iraq and Syria potentially) is what is breaking the US system. US debt simply becomes no different from any random African state debt in investment terms. Of course, the stock market is still the most diversified, advanced and largest by far in the US. But that might change too relatively soon, as the world fragments further.
China is also making currency swaps with major commodity producers across the world. That means pretty soon USD denominated foreign debt will be replaced perhaps by Chinese denominated debt, or BRICS debt.
US is strangling Europe continuously harder. Europe is choking to death.
That is why, most likely US started this mass genocide in the Middle East and hoping to expand to a regional war to hide it all.
They are also pushing hard more war on Russian border states outside Ukraine (Finland and Baltic states, Poland).
Very interesting, once-in-a-century type events going on, but also very dangerous and the outcome doesn't look good.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2023 2:33 utc | 80
I have a paperback copy of the German Ideology, so I have access to the information, but my copy is the Chinese paperback from almost 30 years ago. I am thinking that this has something to do with censorship of all things considered "antisemitic."
Posted by: Ed | Dec 4 2023 0:33 utc | 74
I think there's something more to it. Read Christ and the Caesars. Bruno has something valuable to contribute.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 4 2023 5:43 utc | 81
https://archive.org/details/BauerBrunoDieJudenfrage1843127S.Fraktur/page/n7/mode/2up
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 4 2023 1:16 utc | 77
Thanks for this! Just need to learn German...
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 4 2023 5:44 utc | 82
There's also:
The Gell-Mann Amnsesia Effect
"a psychological phenomenon that highlights people's tendency to recognize the unreliability of media when it comes to topics they're familiar with, while still trusting the media for information on other topics."
https://theportal.wiki/wiki/The_Gell-Mann_Amnesia_Effect
and
Patroklos' Theorem of Inverse Distance
The further away you are or live from a scheduled appointment the more likely you are to be on time; the opposite also tends to be true. Nevertheless, neither can have the status of a law since as distance approaches zero (or infinity) the concomitant results do not apply: if you are already in the location of a scheduled appointment you will never be late and, vice versa, if you live on Alpha Centauri you will never arrive (unless the appointment is scheduled millions of years in the future).
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 4 2023 5:47 utc | 83
I read something a few years ago about some Jewish outfit buying Marxist literature only to make it unavailable to the public. Bruno Bauer was accused of being an anti-Semite in his day. Not to put too fine of a point on it, but current events might be proving old Bruno correct.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 3 2023 23:39 utc | 70
I love you, Ed. Stay healthy!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 4 2023 5:47 utc | 84
There's nothing so funny as watching butt hurt Jews like Sacha Cohen and Rachel Riley and other student Jew snowflakes whining about their "hurt feelings" as children in Gaza are having all four limbs amputated without anaesthetic.
Posted by: anon | Dec 4 2023 8:50 utc | 85
The neoliberal globalists just can't help themselves. They refuse to be stopped. They double down on everything and any chance they get continue to depoliticise democracy.
What just happened in Australia
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=61408
Is now going to happen in the UK after this farce that deliberately played out in the house of Lords.
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=61417
The Quantity Theory of Money is complete vodoo, tarot card reading nonsense. The Monetarists bible that is complete and utter bullshit.
That assumes:
M: That which is money is easily defined and identified and only the central bank can affect its supply, which it can do with autonomy and precision.
V: The velocity of money is related to people’s habits and the structure of the financial system. It is, therefore, relatively constant.
P: The economy is so competitive that neither firms nor workers are free to change what they charge for their goods and services without there having been a change in the underlying forces driving supply and demand in their market.
y: The economy automatically tends towards full employment and thus y (the existing volume of goods and services) is as large as it can be at any given moment (although it grows over time).
Friedman used a helicopter drop of money to come to these assumptions. Not the real world. He assumed that y and V are constant.
One need only look out the window to see that the economy is currently at the full-employment. Never always in a full employment state.
The velocity of money IS NOT constant.
Money IS NOT easily defined and Why M2 got dropped over 20 years ago.
Remember that Friedman used a helicopter–indeed, he had to, for there was no other way to make the example work. This wasn’t just a simplifying device, it was critical, for it allowed the central bank to raise the money supply despite the wishes of the public. However, that can’t happen in the real world because the actual mechanisms available are Fed purchases of government debt from the public, Fed loans to banks through the discount window, or Fed adjustment of reserve requirements so that the banks can make more loans from the same volume of deposits. All of these can raise M, but, not a single solitary one of them can occur without the conscious and voluntary cooperation of a private sector agent.
https://realprogressives.org/money-growth-does-not-cause-inflation/
What happened in Australia and now the House of Lords in the UK has been a farce.. With ideologues and idiots put in place to defend upper class interests. To rip even more democracy out of the system.
Mark my words fiscal councils will be next.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 4 2023 8:52 utc | 86
The liberal left Simon Wren Lewis and Jonathan Portes and the banking economists on the right have been pushing for fiscal councils for at least a decade.
An unelected, unaccountable and hand picked few that will decide fiscal policy. All riddled with the same GROUPTHINK of the central banks.
So that fully sovereign nation states are put in a set of chains equivalent to those spending rules written in the EU treaties.
So even if you vote to leave the EU they trap you anyways.
https://academic.oup.com/economicpolicy/article-abstract/26/68/649/2918377?login=false
We can never vote them out.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 4 2023 9:02 utc | 87
* One need only look out the window to see that the economy is currently NOT at full-employment. Never always in a full employment state.*
So never constant.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 4 2023 9:06 utc | 88
Topic: US housing bubble
CNN Business: "The housing market looks like a bubble, 2008 regulator says"
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/11/economy/housing-market-bubble-sheila-bair/index.html
From that same article:
"Jeremy Grantham: Global Housing bubble" (incl. the US).
"Legendary investor Jeremy Grantham shares Bair’s concern about a housing bubble. He has been warning of an eventual plunge in home prices around the world."
"30% overpriced".
Posted by: Mr. Market | Dec 4 2023 9:40 utc | 89
US secretary of commerce Raimondo said they will stop Nvidia from selling its new Nvidia chip to China. But apparently Nvidia has set up a bunch of shell companies across the world, which it could use to go around it.
https://twitter.com/DarioCpx/status/1731607811598213123
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2023 10:09 utc | 90
Topic: AirBnB bust:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/airbnb-lead-real-estate-market-180212436.html
"Air BnB to lead to housing crash".
Posted by: Mr. Market | Dec 4 2023 10:13 utc | 91
Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Dec 4 2023 1:25 utc | 78
Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 4 2023 5:47 utc | 86
I don't often post on this site (I struggle to find the time or the words), but read it daily and these made me laugh.
It reminds me of a problem I have with a lot of news commentary, particularly on social media (I am thinking Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan, Russell Brand etc etc). I can find them entertaining sometimes, but they pick and choose what they take from articles. One minute they are outing a paper as untrustworthy, the next they are quoting the paper as it backs up one of their points.
So maybe there should be a ratio calculated as to the truthfulness of a source. Or maybe we should quote it as "this information may be false, but the it truthfully shows the direction of our policy".
(Sorry I picked on these particular youtubers, they were the first to pop into my head).
Posted by: Wee_Scot | Dec 4 2023 12:52 utc | 92
@ bevin | Dec 3 2023 22:34 utc | 62
"For these guys, as our old friend antonym illustrates, the deprecation of anything and everything Chinese is Rule #1."
Not China bad: present CPC leadership aggressive to its direct neigbors. Why? Is Xi Jinping part(ner) of WEF?
Uncle Sam went bad after 1945 when operation "Paperclip" injected a load of Nazis into the pre-CIA. Is that not enough of an opponent? Why antagonize an India?
War loving is a sign of Cabal behavior of the Washington swamp - without Trump.
Xi has quite some power, but what does he stand for???
Posted by: Antonym | Dec 4 2023 12:58 utc | 93
Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 22:16 utc | 58
heh
Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 4 2023 13:01 utc | 94
To add to the list is the bandwagon effect. Where people believe in things because everyone else does.
It is why polls are so popular, not because they are accurate because it makes you think everyone else is thinking a certain way. And you feel inclined to follow suit with your neighbors.
I couldn't find the original study I read on this but this article covers the basics (although it is pretty self explanatory).
https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/bandwagon-effect
Posted by: Wee_Scot | Dec 4 2023 13:05 utc | 95
Thanks for another Week in Review, b, and for the ongoing enlightening commentary! For those who don’t check in with b’s X/Twitter account, I’m posting this link to a re-Tweet he posted there. Col. Wilkerson giving new insider testimony about Taiwan.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1731518948599091394
I read Bhadrakumar’s piece on Saudi Arabia. I was struck by the conclusion:
“The mother of all ironies in all this is that the US not only assassinated a senior Iranian general in a third country and the then president in the White House even bragged about it. Equally, the US took revenge on Osama bin Laden and dumped his corpse in the high seas.
It has kidnapped dozens of Russian nationals travelling abroad and locked them up in prisons in an attempt to persuade them to work for the US intelligence. Now, in June, with a similar objective, the US intelligence kidnapped an Indian transiting through Prague. Evidently, the US intelligence was stalking him on Indian soil.
It is a frightening thought that the Five Eyes may have penetrated the core of the Indian security establishment. Yet, state secretary Blinken vows not to let go India, the US’ indispensable partner for the undoing of China. It almost seems as if he knows something about Indian statecraft that we do not. Indian diplomacy has truly tied itself in knots.”
As a Canadian - it seems extraordinarily naive to be shocked that the Five Eyes may have penetrated the core of the Indian security establishment. This from a former British colony, that is still part of the Commonwealth. It led me to wonder if that is warning, from the British-allied Indian security establishment towards the CIA-allied part? Just my read.
To Wee_Scot’s musing about polls. Satirical Canadian news site has a worthy take on it (IMHO), “Poll asking Canadians what we should do in Ukraine reveals majority of Canadians not military strategists.”
Perhaps the same could be said of the polls within Ukraine that are referred to in b’s links?
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 4 2023 13:43 utc | 96
IDF riding bicycles of the kids they murdered and laffing
https://twitter.com/i/status/1731482008675635343
Posted by: ld | Dec 4 2023 13:51 utc | 97
Brief news update from the Americas:
Renowned Quebec entrepreneur, partner reported dead in Caribbean [Dominica specifically, charred vehicle]
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 4 2023 14:29 utc | 98
@ juliania | Dec 4 2023 0:42 utc | 75 and @ Ed | Dec 4 2023 1:54 utc | 80
thanks for picking up on that juliania.. the link you shared looks very interesting, but i am tied up with other book reading at the moment.. do share what you discover..
yes - we all live and support myths in our lives.. it is much as caitlin johnstone says regarding narrative management and how that works too.. the media continues to be a powerful tool in this regard.. it doesn't matter what the truth is.. it only matters that you keep repeating a lie for as long as possible to get people to believe in it... case in point - russia is losing the war in ukraine.. moa readers know this was a lie from the beginning, but many others who don't examine any of this, would have thought differently thanks the msm..
so the idea of ''the chosen people'' is another classic myth that many people believe in without question... of course the bible and holy books are revered for good reason, but what is missing is the ability to read them in a figurative, as opposed to literal manner.. because we live in the age of materialism, the ability to perceive the message being shared is lost, or taken literally.. so yes - myth is dangerous ed... if people can't understand the message being given, or misinterpret it - that is to say they read it literally - then their whole life will be fraught with danger!
there is a lot more to talk about this but i will stop here for now.. thanks for picking up on that passing comment..
Posted by: james | Dec 4 2023 16:31 utc | 99
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 4 2023 13:43 utc | 99
Thanks I enjoyed that. Truthfully I am probably not much better than those being mocked in the article :)
Oh well, we can only try and be a little better informed and a little less prejudiced...
Posted by: Wee_Scot | Dec 4 2023 18:13 utc | 100
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In simple language what we have been talking about here for years.
“ India in Multipolar World, Where US Lost Its Dominance”
S.L. Kanthan
https://sputniknews.in/20231130/india-in-multipolar-world-where-us-lost-its-dominance-5648522.html
I personally am of the opinion the final nail will be when the conflict over Taiwan or Myanmar or some shithole satrap island in the Pacific fails to ignite or when India goes all-in and is dragged into a land war with the SCO - which it is supposed to be a partner in - in which case there will be fallout everywhere.
The only thing that can stop history ever-repeating is for the ‘families’ which persist over dozens of generations to understand that they will be the first to be incinerated in whichever deepest fortress they have made to live in for the next ten generations before re-emerging! That they are the Few who will be the ones to cease to exist and will be forgotten within one generation of humanity. The age and religion of Money, Mammon is OVER.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 3 2023 15:09 utc | 1