Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
December 8, 2023
RIP Refaat in Gaza

Sad news:

Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2 – 19:52 UTC · Dec 7, 2023

Israel killed Prof. Refaat al-Areer, one of Gaza's most prominent writers, poets & activists who spent his life trying to get Gaza's voice to the outside world.

He was killed in a targeted airstrike on his sister's home that also killed his brother, sister & her 4 kids…

Refaat's pinned tweet:

Refaat in Gaza 🇵🇸 @itranslate123 – 13:01 UTC · Nov 1, 2023

If I must die, let it be a tale.

#FreePalestine
#Gaza


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Refaat's last tweet:

Refaat in Gaza 🇵🇸 @itranslate123 – 5:00 UTC · Dec 4, 2023

The Democratic Party and Biden are responsible for the Gaza genocide perpetrated by Israel.

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Vice President Kamala Harris …
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His writing:

My Child Asks, ‘Can Israel Destroy Our Building if the Power Is Out?’NY Times – May 13, 2021

By Refaat Alareer
Mr. Alareer lives in Gaza and is the editor of “Gaza Writes Back,” a collection of short stories.


On Tuesday, Linah asked her question again after my wife and I didn’t answer it the first time: Can they destroy our building if the power is out? I wanted to say: “Yes, little Linah, Israel can still destroy the beautiful al-Jawharah building, or any of our buildings, even in the darkness. Each of our homes is full of tales and stories that must be told. Our homes annoy the Israeli war machine, mock it, haunt it, even in the darkness. It can’t abide their existence. And, with American tax dollars and international immunity, Israel presumably will go on destroying our buildings until there is nothing left.”

But I can’t tell Linah any of this. So I lie: “No, sweetie. They can’t see us in the dark.”

Lectures:

English Poetry Lecture 1/28: An Introduction to Poetry (video) – Refaat Alareer / eLearning Centre – IUG

On air:

Palestine voices on Israel's war against GazaUsefull Idiots – Oct 13, 2023
This week’s interview with Refaat Alareer, Yumna Patel, and Muhammad Shehada
video

How Refaat was murdered:

شهداء غزّة Gaza martyrs @Gaza_Shaheed – 12:54 UTC · Dec 8, 2023

Important information on Refaat’s assassination:
The day before yesterday, Refaat received a phone call from the Israeli intelligence about locating him in the school where he took refuge. They informed him that they were going to kill him. He left the school not wanting to endanger the others, and at 6 p.m. his sister's apartment was bombed, where he was killed, his sister and her four children

Obits:

In memory of Dr. Refaat AlareerThe Electronic Intifada – 7 December 2023

‘If I must die, let it be a tale’: a tribute to Refaat Alareer – Max Blumenthal – December 7, 2023

Related:

The “Hunt for Hamas” Narrative Is Obscuring Israel’s Real Plans for Gaza – Adam Johnson / The Nation – Dec 7 2023
The US press and politicians are trying to fit the attacks on Gaza into a Zero Dark Thirty mold, but it’s something much simpler—and sinister.

> America’s media and political class is analyzing, debating, and shaping a narrative in Gaza that’s entirely different from the one being discussed in Israeli media and among Israeli political leaders. This gap, born from casual racism, deliberate credulity, and reflexive alignment with the US government’s party line, is creating a media failure the likes of which we haven’t seen since the run-up to the Iraq War. … <

A dear friend of Moon of Alabama tweets:

annie fofani🇵🇸 @anniefofani – 22:08 UTC · Dec 7, 2023

I miss you so much Refaat. i assume you sent me this so i could pass it on after your death. so, here it for the world. click, the date is at the base.


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Rest in peace.

Comments

I will not look away.
No matter how horrific it gets, I will not look away.
No matter how many children I see killed and injured in the most gruesome ways imaginable, I will not look away.
No matter how much human suffering I see by keeping my gaze on Gaza, I will not look away.
No matter how many nightmares I have, I will not look away.
No matter how many tears I shed, I will not look away.
No matter how many reasons the propagandists and manipulators come up with for me to turn my gaze elsewhere, I will not look away.
No matter how many insults and accusations I am tarred with for refusing to look away, I will not look away.
No matter how much easier it would be to look away, I will not look away.
I will not avert my gaze. I will not become distracted. I will not lose myself to the sedated stupor of escapism. I will not do my best to pretend that everything is normal and that life is basically fine.
It’s a paltry offering, really. Almost nothing. But it’s all I’ve got to offer: this simple, sacred vow to honor the victims by refusing to look away from what’s being inflicted upon them. To be here for it, to the furthest extent possible.
The people of Gaza are suffering far more than I have ever suffered, and probably far more than I ever will suffer. But, in my own meager and entirely insufficient way, I can try to make sure they’re not suffering on their own.
To the extent of one person’s gaze, one person’s attention, one person’s reverence, I can ensure that the world has not turned their back on them. I can ensure that, to that extent, they are not forgotten.
That way even if my other efforts fail, if all our collective efforts fail, if the activism comes up short, if we fail to open enough eyes and apply enough pressure in the necessary places, then at least their deaths, their losses and their anguish will not have slipped by unnoticed. Unappreciated. Unvalued. Unwitnessed.
I will not look away, because these lives matter and I have a duty to honor them.
I will not look away, because that would be giving the bastards what they want.
I will not look away, because even in my powerlessness to help I still have the power to bear witness.
I will not look away, for the same reason that when my parents are dying I will hold their hand and stay by their bedside until they are gone.
Even if we can’t stop this, at the very least we can give them our seeing.
At the very least we owe them that.
Caitlin Johnstone
___________

Posted by: Neil MacLeod | Dec 9 2023 2:35 utc | 201

Glasgow Celtic fans have a reputation for backing underdogs and the victims of imperialism -the team’s name is a clue as to why.
A few weeks ago Refaat al Areer used his twitter account to thank them for their support. Now the fans aere expressing their sympathy with the martyred poet’s cause.
It’s a reminder that there is still a working class movement in Britain.
“Celtic fans have paid an emotional tribute to Prof Refaat Alareer, the Palestinian poet, academic and freedom activist who was murdered by Israel on Thursday, during its genocide in Gaza.
“In late October, Prof Alareer had posted to his Twitter account with videos of the Celtic crowd’s show of solidarity with Palestinians against Israeli war crimes, occupation and apartheid:….”
https://skwawkbox.org/2023/12/09/celtic-fans-salute-gaza-poet-murdered-by-israel-who-paid-tribute-to-them/

Posted by: bevin | Dec 9 2023 2:37 utc | 202

Two things. One, I spent most of my adult life fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not once. Not ever, did I look to my left or right and see an Israeli soldier fighting by my side. Our so called “greatest ally in the Middle East.” Bullshit.
Two. By overtly engaging in a genocidal rampage against the Palestinians, the Jews have lost their primary superpower: the holocaust, genocide, Jew victim card that has been thrown in the face of every race of men for the last 75 years whenever anyone dare criticize anything deemed Jewish.
Hamas has dropped the Jewish mask.

Posted by: RLTW | Dec 9 2023 2:57 utc | 203

Thank you b, from the bottom of my heart.

Posted by: annie | Dec 9 2023 3:03 utc | 204

So they’re going after writers and poets now too? Fucking disgusting, if I was there I’d gladly pick up my rifle and start hunting some IDF grunts. That’s if they’re not too cowardly to get out their armor.

Posted by: Atreides | Dec 9 2023 3:30 utc | 205

“I will not look away.”
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Israelis must be forced to look clearly at how their diabolical, revolting, lying state came into being. Just as Germans were forced to troupe through concentration camps, Israelis should be forced to attend public readings of the accounts of the savagery that was inflicted on innocent Arabs all over the Jewish State in Palestine.
IMO worse than what Germans did to Jews—at the very least on a par. At least (most of) the Germans feel guilty. Not so the Jews, who feel justified in their savage actions and continue to hide them from the rest of the world. Not out of shame but to protect the guilty. Their whole country is guilty.
Read here:
https://balfourproject.org/classified-docs-reveal-massacres-of-palestinians-in-48-and-what-israeli-leaders-knew/
Excerpt:
“. . . Among the major massacres that took place during Operations Hiram and Yoav were the events in the villages of Saliha, Safsaf and Al-Dawayima. In Saliha (today Kibbutz Yiron), which lay close to the border with Lebanon, the 7th Brigade executed between 60 and 80 inhabitants using a method that was employed a number of times in the war: concentrating residents in a building in the village and then blowing up the structure with the people inside.
“In Safsaf (today Moshav Safsufa), near Safed, soldiers from the 7th Brigade massacred dozens of inhabitants. According to one testimony (subsequently reclassified by the Malmab unit), “Fifty-two men were caught, tied them to one another, dug a pit and shot them. Ten were still twitching. Women came, begged for mercy. Found bodies of 6 elderly men. There were 61 bodies. 3 cases of rape.”
“In the village of Al-Dawayima (today Moshav Amatzia), in the Lachish District, troops of the 8th Brigade massacred about 100 people. A soldier who witnessed the events described to Mapam officials what happened: “There was no battle and no resistance. The first conquerors killed 80 to 100 Arab men, women and children. The children were killed by smashing their skulls with sticks. There wasn’t a house without people killed in it.” According to an intelligence officer who was posted to the village two days later, the number of those killed stood at 120. . . . [more, much more . . .]”
Please spare me the Jewish crocodile tears over invented rapes. These people started out as monsters and have remained monsters who are convinced of their virtue and victimhood while mouthing bloodthirsty plans and lies. They must be jolted, shocked, out of their fantasy. I wish I could do it.

Posted by: Jane | Dec 9 2023 3:34 utc | 206

wikipedia has a pretty fair piece on Orde Wingate the British officer and zinist who really pioneered the tactics currently being exercised in Gaza and the West Bank.
The Wiki thing is just an introduction- it is very biassed in Wingate’s (and the Israelis) favour but it is worth looking up.
Wingate was a member of the Plymouth Brethren . Dayan is reputed to have said that Wingate, who later formed the Chindits in Burma, “Taught us everything we know.” By which he meant using brutal terror tactics on Palestinians.
It was in the suppression of the Palestinians between 1936-9 that the foundatins of the current Israel were laid down.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 9 2023 4:09 utc | 207

Posted by: Neil MacLeod | Dec 9 2023 2:35 utc | 201
I will not look away.
No matter how horrific it gets, I will not look away……….
Caitlin makes me proud to be a Human Being. I wish there were more of us in this world.

Posted by: jr | Dec 9 2023 4:21 utc | 208

Craig Murray in Geneva at his best :
“On Monday, I attended a surreal event at the United Nations in Geneva. It was part of the celebrations of the 75th anniversary of the Genocide Convention. It had been organised before the start of the current phase of the genocide of the Palestinians, and the subject was the suppression of incitement to genocide in the media and social media. It was formally a meeting of the UN Human Rights Council, but other states were also entitled to attend and to speak.
“Delegates came and went, but over the course of the day approximately 60 nation states were present in the hall. Not all spoke, but enough did to give a feeling for the diplomatic dynamics.
“I think this is best summed up by recounting the tale of two striking-looking women who spoke. The first was the delegate of Palestine, with notable long black hair, who spoke movingly of the current genocide in Gaza and the terrible destruction wrought upon tens of thousands of entirely innocent people, chiefly women and children.
“Palestine was followed by the delegate representing Denmark, with equally notable long hair only this time very blonde, who said the government of Denmark was taking important concrete measures to prevent the incitement of genocide, including legislation to combat anti-semitism in social media. Two nations speaking entirely past each other.
“And that was how the discussion went. Arab, African and South American states stressed the urgent need to stop the current genocide; developed nations stressed the need for states to control social media and counter “disinformation” and anti-semitism. The experts invited to join the discussion very much focused on Palestine – indeed that is where I got the reference to the precise passage from the ICJ judgment above.
“None of which still explains why none of the pro-Palestinian states has fulfilled their duty and reported Israel under the Genocide Convention, thus triggering a determination by the International Court of Justice. This is particularly strange as several states have referred Israel to the International Criminal Court for war crimes.
“Yet I have not found a single diplomat from any nation who disagrees with me when I say that this is a waste of time as the ICC is a western tool and will do nothing. I have not found a single diplomat who disagrees with me when I say that the ICJ is much better and a reference under the Genocide Convention is a far better route….”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/12/stopping-genocide/

Posted by: bevin | Dec 9 2023 4:27 utc | 209

@Posted by: jr | Dec 9 2023 4:21 utc | 208
Not the Caitlin I knew. I spent a lot of time at her site (under a different handle),
contributed money and made comments.
Then there came a shift.
Some posts of mine would go unposted by her site.
And I began to notice a pattern.
Couldn’t post about the Zionist Project
nor it’s supporters. And I don’t believe it was
limited to that.
Something had changed behind the scenes.
I finally threw up my hands and mourned her loss,
she was now controlled opposition.
I couldn’t think bad things about her,
how many of us could stand up to the Gestapo (Mossad, CIA, FBI, NSA, MI6…)
should they come knocking at our own door?
Haven’t been back there in a dog’s age.

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210

fyi,
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/msf-accuses-unsc-of-complicity-in-gaza–slaughter
MSF accuses UNSC of complicity in Gaza ‘slaughter’
MSF says the inaction on the part of the UNSC and member states in particular, such as the United States, “makes them complicit in the ongoing slaughter.”
Doctors Without Borders (MSF) has accused the UN Security Council of being complicit in the “slaughter in Gaza,” adding that it must vote on Friday in favor of lifting the siege.
According to MSF, the UNSC must demand an immediate and lasting ceasefire, as well as unimpeded relief into Palestinian territories….
Calling the trickle of aid entering the Strip “insultingly insufficient,” MSF added that “history will judge the delay in ending this slaughter; basic humanity demands action,” stressing that the scale of loss and grief unlike the physical damage that will require years of support “may never be assuaged.”….
….MSF International Secretary General Christopher Lockyear emphasized the desperation that people feel to receive food due to the “cruel siege”
“Failure to act now, to enact a total ceasefire and end the siege, would be unforgivable.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 9 2023 5:38 utc | 211

From Reuters about genocide America
Gaza fighting intensifies, US vetoes Security Council demand for ceasefire

The United States kept up pressure on Israel to do more to protect Palestinian civilians during a fierce offensive against Hamas militants across Gaza, even as Washington vetoed a U.N. Security Council demand for an immediate

Kept up pressure my ass!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2023 7:08 utc | 212

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210
i’ve never had a problem posting there, and she is highly critical of Israel. I haven’t noticed a difference there personally.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 9 2023 7:22 utc | 213

Hi Barflies.
Seeing alot of good people rise to the obvious hasbara click bait.
Don’t bother to reply, it only encourages them. On a happy note, in our town someone wrote to the Mayor complaining about the Israeli flag being raised in the middle of this repulsive genocide. The flag is now gone replaced by a peace flag.
Small victories count, in the end.

Posted by: Judge Barber | Dec 9 2023 7:25 utc | 214

Based on your ‘logic’ I’d file under “Darwin Awards” the clowns who decided to hold a rave party near a concentration camp on 7 October during a live colonization of Arab lands.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 8 2023 13:59 utc | 32
Honestly, could you, Arch Bungle, guess on 6 October that very soon IDF will hunt from helicopters participants of a music festival (rave if you will)? Also, seems that the festival was “non-kosher”, had cancelled venue and got a wacky place instead in the last minute. I do not think that a Darwin Award is applicable.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 9 2023 7:52 utc | 215

I took words of Arch Bungle out of context. So indeed, by the logic of Mr. Pi, staying in the country where the military can hunt THEIR OWN PEOPLE from helicopters, painful decision and all the blah blah, may deserve a Darwin Award. Notwithstanding the advertising slogan than only in Israel Jews can be truly safe.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 9 2023 7:59 utc | 216

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
💔🇵🇸 One of the Palestinian detainees who were released this morning after their arrest yesterday by the ISRAELI army in Beit Lahiya tells QNN:
🚨 The occupation soldiers stripped us naked when they arrested us in the northern Gaza Strip, put us in trucks and took us to the seashore after blindfolding our eyes.
🚨 They put us in the cold, without clothes, and we stayed until 12 a.m. tied up without moving. Then they ordered some of us to return home and kept others in detention.
🚨 We returned on foot, naked, and were surprised to find that most of the homes we left from had been burned and stolen.
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1733185242633064793

Posted by: Menz | Dec 9 2023 8:42 utc | 217

Ayish hussain
@AAbubakar43601
Journalist Zia Al-Akhlot, the head of Al-Arabi Al-Jadid newspaper, is among those arrested, which shows that Israel’s claim is a big lie.
https://twitter.com/AAbubakar43601/status/1733187911992930583

Posted by: Menz | Dec 9 2023 8:47 utc | 218

Ayish hussain
@AAbubakar43601
Journalist Zia Al-Akhlot, the head of Al-Arabi Al-Jadid newspaper, is among those arrested, which shows that Israel’s claim is a big lie.
https://twitter.com/AAbubakar43601/status/1733187911992930583

Posted by: Menz | Dec 9 2023 8:47 utc | 219

131 Ed
Genocide Joe is pond scum.

Posted by: Lavieja | Dec 9 2023 8:50 utc | 220

Hassan Mafi ‏
@thatdayin1992
I hear a lot of people talk about “two-state solution.” How about creating a home for the Zionists in England? Give them half of England and call it Israel. I’m sure the Brits are ok with this. What do you think?
https://twitter.com/thatdayin1992/status/1733067949961867556

Posted by: Menz | Dec 9 2023 9:01 utc | 221

Teenagers from Gaza Kibbutz tour Germany to tell their 7.Oct story in German High Schools.
https://www.merkur.de/lokales/muenchen/tag-des-terrors-jugendliche-aus-israel-erzaehlen-erschreckendes-vom-hamas-angriff-92718937.html

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 9:15 utc | 222

Background on the Kibbutz where these teenagers came from:
https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba
Now You know the rest of the story….

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 9:18 utc | 223

“He was killed in a targeted airstrike on his sister’s home that also killed his brother, sister & her 4 kids…”
Israel really is targeting the civilians the most and almost half the murdered are children.
And as for those who claim the Palestinians should have got their children out – they overlook that the Palestinians were blocked in many cases and for weeks. They couldn’t get to Egypt and many of the surrounding countries won’t allow them to come in large numbers. Some say that’s because these countries know that Israel won’t allow them to return if they leave, and others claim that it makes their countries a target in the future for Israel attacks.

Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 9 2023 9:25 utc | 224

MiniMo,
As the occupying power – it is the responsibility of the Israeli government to take in these Palestians refugee women and children and provide for them.
International Law is rather explicit on this.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 9:30 utc | 225

Greeks, indigenous Americans, and various desert fathers practiced some form of slavery, true. There really is something exceptional about USA, though, and that is the invention of chattel slavery on our hallowed soil. Frederick Douglas, in his three memoirs, did a pretty good job explaining the difference, for anyone interested.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 8 2023 21:55 utc | 163
The Crimean Turks killed their slaves by working them to death. They took slaves from Russia, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and beyond for 100s of years, and the slaves they took disappeared – there were no survivors/bloodline from the millions of slaves they took. They would murder off any elderly captives but throwing them in the sea or giving them to children to stone to death. That the African slaves population increased to large numbers shows they weren’t near as bad off as most of the slaves of the Crimean Turks/Tartars and the Turks.
And Jews also went to Crimea to buy slaves and Jews have a long history of having slaves. Constantine the Great even issued and edict that the Jews couldn’t have Christian slaves. So slavery was a known practice of Jews.
Jews were the ones who got Europe into getting African slaves. It was Jews of Portugal and Spain who started it and then spread it to The Netherlands then to England.
Jews owned many of the slave ships and they also brought slaves to the Caribbean and Central and South America. They made money of it so they pushed slaves into areas that didn’t want them.

Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 9 2023 9:33 utc | 226

Michalo Lituanus described Caffa as “an insatiable and lawless abyss, drinking our blood.” Besides the bad food, water, clothing and shelter, they were subjected to exhausting labor and abuse. According to Litvin “the stronger slaves were castrated, others had their noses and ears slit and were branded on the forehead or cheek. By day they were tormented with forced labor and at night kept in dungeons.” Muslim, Armenians, Jews, and Greek traders all purchased Slavic slaves in Caffa.

Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 9 2023 9:42 utc | 227

@librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210

I finally threw up my hands and mourned her loss,
she was now controlled opposition.

She always was. She used a picture of the infamous tank man of Beijing as her twitter page banner in 2014/2015 or so.
Wokism is one of the marks of the beast and she always was too woke to be real opposition.

Posted by: SG | Dec 9 2023 9:53 utc | 228

I heard it mentioned on a podcast but l don’t know if it has actually happened. Apparently Khan from the ICC has been in Israel to gather evidence of Hamas war crimes to be used to build a case for future prosecutions in The Hague of Hamas leaders!
Posted by: JohnG | Dec 8 2023 23:40 utc | 179
Karim Khan is an absolute cockroach (among the many in the halls of power). The ICC is apparently known as the International Caucasian Court because apart from Milosevich and Putin, they only go after Africans. His visit was in early December just after the 7 days pause at a time when the killed in Gaza was already close to 20,000 if you count the people under the rubble.
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5990/ICC%E2%80%99s-credibility-is-waning-following-its-attorney-general%E2%80%99s-secret-visit-to-Israeli-settlements
https://www.timesofisrael.com/icc-chief-prosecutor-meets-with-oct-7-survivors-in-israel-pa-president/
“Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, visited Israel over the weekend at the request of families of hostages held by Hamas, the first trip to the country by an ICC chief prosecutor.
Khan toured some of the communities attacked during the October 7 Hamas onslaught, including Kibbutz Be’eri and Kibbutz Kfar Aza, and heard testimonies from survivors of the massacre.
In a written statement issued after his visit he said he witnessed “scenes of calculated cruelty” at locations of the attacks.
Khan also said that international crimes — extremely serious violations of international law — were likely committed: “These were not random murders. People were murdered because of their identity.”
“The attacks against innocent Israeli civilians on 7 October represent some of the most serious international crimes that shock the conscience of humanity, crimes which the ICC was established to address,” Khan said, adding that he and his prosecutors are working “to hold those responsible to account.”

Posted by: pq | Dec 9 2023 10:42 utc | 229

JohnG | Dec 8 2023 23:40 utc | 179
Posted by: bevin | Dec 9 2023 0:45 utc | 191
I have not seen the BBC article in question nor do I need to (very easy to imagine) but thanks for bringing it to attention John and Bevin for the detailed corrections.

Posted by: pq | Dec 9 2023 11:24 utc | 230

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6014/Israeli-Strike-on-Refaat-al-Areer-Apparently-Deliberate
The Israeli airstrike that killed Prof. Refaat al-Areer was apparently deliberate, Euro-Med Monitor concluded on Friday. The apartment where Refaat and his family were sheltering was surgically bombed out of the entire building where it’s located, according to corroborated eyewitness and family accounts. This came after weeks of death threats that Refaat received online and by phone from Israeli accounts.
We call for an immediate investigation into this apparently deliberate and targeted killing of a prominent Palestinian academic, writer, poet, and activist.
On Wednesday at around 18:00, Refaat al-Areer was killed in his sister’s home in al-Sidra neighborhood in al-Daraj area in Gaza city along with his brother Salah and one of his children (Mohammed); his sister Asmaa and three of her children (Alaa, Yahia, and Mohammed); and a neighbor. His brother’s wife, Alaa, and two other children, Rafik and Alma, were wounded in the assault.
The airstrike surgically targeted the apartment on the second floor where Rafaat was in a 3-storey building, and not the entire building; indicating the apartment was the target and not possible collateral damage.
Refaat was displaced multiple times during this war and ended up at his sister’s home along with his parents, wife and children. A few days ago, Refaat moved with his wife and children to an UNRWA school in al-Tufah neighborhood in Gaza according to his family.
However, a close friend of Refaat’s told Euro-Med Monitor that he had received an anonymous phone call from someone who identified himself as an Israeli officer and threatened Refaat that they knew precisely the school where he was located and were about to get to his location with the advancement of Israeli ground troops.
While the credibility of the threat itself is unclear, it contributed to prompting Refaat to move back to his sister’s apartment, believing it was more concealed than an open and overcrowded school where it would have been difficult to hide.
For weeks since the start of this war, Refaat has been receiving numerous death threats and hateful messages from Israeli accounts on social media after prominent public figures singled him out for harassment and incitement.
In 2014, Israel bombed Refaat’s home in Shejaiya and killed over 30 of his and his wife’s families.

Posted by: pq | Dec 9 2023 11:32 utc | 231

“The attacks against innocent Israeli civilians on 7 October represent some of the most serious international crimes that shock the conscience of humanity, crimes which the ICC was established to address,” Khan said, adding that he and his prosecutors are working “to hold those responsible to account.”
Posted by: pq | Dec 9 2023 10:42 utc | 229

Will Khan prosecute only the Apache Helicopter pilots and Merkava Tank Gunners or also go after those commanders and generals under the Yamashita Judical Doctrine ?

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 11:43 utc | 232

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 8 2023 13:26 utc | 19
Nobody cares what you think jew hater.
Posted by: Realist | Dec 8 2023 18:23 utc | 114
Obviously you care or you would not have posted.
If you have an intelligent counter argument to Arch’s kindly please present such rather than resort to childish name calling as above.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 9 2023 11:58 utc | 233

@pq | Dec 8 2023 19:58 utc | 140
Indigenous enslavement was significantly different than the practice and institution of enslavement as carried out by Europeans. European enslavement was more than a denial of freedom, it was a racist practice that involved enslaving those deemed “inferior.” Europeans used the labour of slaves to fund the growth of their colonies. The enslavement of Indigenous peoples by Europeans must be understood within the context of doctrines of discovery, which were used to justify imperialization and the colonization of Indigenous lands and peoples.
1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation:
The 1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation was the largest escape of a group of slaves to occur in the Cherokee Nation, in what was then Indian Territory. The slave revolt started on November 15, 1842, when a group of 20 African-Americans enslaved by the Cherokee escaped and tried to reach Mexico, where slavery had been abolished in 1829. Along their way south, they were joined by 15 slaves escaping from the Creek Nation in Indian Territory.
[…]
In the late 18th century, some Cherokee set up European-American style plantations on their Cherokee Nation land, which occupied territory near parts of Georgia and Tennessee. They purchased African-American slaves to work this land.
Wow! Such difference! So diverse! Much freedom!
Posted by: SG | Dec 8 2023 21:17 utc | 153
Yes, thanks for the reality check. PQ ‘s morality is in the right place, historically, in this instance , he’s in total denial even when confronted by easily accessed history which you and I have illustrated .
Unfortunately I don’t believe any mountain of facts will change PQ’s seemingly ‘religious’ (blind faith) stance on this issue.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 9 2023 12:08 utc | 234

Hamas Daily SITREP day 64:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1997943
Comment – three videos, the first is a compilation of shoot and scoot RPG attacks which seems to be the daily action now – kinda Stalingrad redux. The second is unclear but appears to be a video of the IDF POW that was killed in a failed IDF rescue operation. The third is a utterly baffling video of a not-so-hidden rocket base with elaborate set up etc. Doubt this rocket base exists anymore.
Anyone who reads Arabic can better clarify

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 12:09 utc | 235

@Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 9:18 utc | 223
https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba
Thank you for this link. Will keep it.

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 12:14 utc | 236

pq | Dec 8 2023 19:58 utc | 140
‘ Thanks for correcting ‘canuck’. He should know better.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 8 2023 21:41 utc | 159
I know you guys want to cement your ideological ideas across history, but on this issue you two are in, ‘la al land’:
“Indigenous slavery long predated the arrival of Europeans in the Americas. As far back as we can peer
into pre-Contact monuments, codices, and archaeological evidence as well as the earliest European
accounts, we learn about Indigenous Americans enslaving one another. The Maya and Aztec took
captives to use as sacrificial victims, the Iroquois waged “mourning wars” on neighbors to avenge and
replace their dead, Native groups along the North Pacific Coast finalized elite marriages by exchanging
enslaved people, and so on. These practices of bondage were embedded in specific cultural contexts.
Europeans tapped into them and went on to commodify and expand them in ways that would have
been unimaginable in earlier times. By the seventeenth century, Mapuche captives from southern
Chile were marched to the port of Valparaíso and shipped all the way to Peru, unpaid Apache laborers..”
https://americanindian.si.edu/sites/1/files/pdf/seminars-symposia/the-other-slavery-perspective.pdf

Posted by: canuck | Dec 9 2023 12:20 utc | 237

This is how the IOF look for “terrorists”…they do not seem to be in a rush, neither for rescuing the hostages…
That their aim is to destroy any public and private propierty gets patently clear, that seems to be a source of enjoyment for these scoundrels, derstrying any means withwhich normal life is carried out…This should be documented for the trials to come…the face of the guy gets filmed for posterity and shame of his people…all the face of a psycho who never sweated the least to make a living, as living in continuous robbery since decades ago…
https://t.me/elespiadigital/17064

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Dec 9 2023 12:37 utc | 238

his is how the IOF look for “terrorists”…they do not seem to be in a rush, neither for rescuing the hostages…
That their aim is to destroy any public and private propierty gets patently clear, that seems to be a source of enjoyment for these scoundrels, derstrying any means withwhich normal life is carried out…This should be documented for the trials to come…the face of the guy gets filmed for posterity and shame of his people…all the face of a psycho who never sweated the least to make a living, as living in continuous robbery since decades ago…
https://t.me/elespiadigital/17064
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Dec 9 2023 12:37 utc | 238
Atrocious IOF behaviour; however, it is ill considered. Putting your enemy into squalor, deprivation only makes him stronger. In Dune the Emperor took his his best troops from Salus Secondus a prison planet where the men were deprived of food shelter where only the strongest survived.
ISrael is only, long term, strengthening thier enemy.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 9 2023 12:45 utc | 239

It’s a reminder that there is still a working class movement in Britain.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 9 2023 2:37 utc | 202
Britain as in land of BBC?
You mean Scotland. Soon to be free.

Posted by: sal | Dec 9 2023 13:08 utc | 240

On Reuters front page Gaza is no longer the lead item,
it has fallen to #2.
However, Reuters still appears pissed about their journalists
being murdered by the IDF.

Intensified fighting across Gaza as U.S. vetoes ceasefire
Israel pounded the Gaza Strip from north to south on Saturday in an expanded phase of its two-month-old war against Hamas, after the United States wielded its U.N. Security Council veto to shield its ally from a global demand for a ceasefire.
27 min ago
– Israeli drone strike in Syria killed three Hezbollah members
– Palestinian Authority president says US veto makes it complicit in Israeli ‘war crimes’

We all know of course that “its two-month-old war against Hamas”
is nothing of the sort. It is what the Zionist Project has been doing
for decades – attacking the Palestinian People in a pogrom of ethnic cleansing,
genocide and theft.

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 13:11 utc | 241

ISrael is only, long term, strengthening thier enemy.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 9 2023 12:45 utc | 239
Speaking of Dune the zionist regime seem a lot like the Harkonnens to me.
May they share the same fate at the hands of the native fremen of the middle east.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 9 2023 13:32 utc | 242

Gideon Levy ..
Israel Is Fostering the Next Generation of Hatred Against Itself<\b>
A bereaved father, whose 8-year-old son was shot dead by soldiers, stood this week at the entrance to his home at the border of the Jenin refugee camp and stated the simple truth: “These children will never forgive the soldiers. You’re raising another generation of resistance. Now our children want Israeli children to be killed too.”
I visited the home of the father, Samer al-Ghoul, after a visit to the Jenin camp where the Israel Defense Forces once again sowed destruction in recent days, to a horrifying extent.
About 80 homes were demolished, all the roads in the camp were uprooted from their place and the sewage, whose infrastructure was destroyed, is flowing in the streets and raising a stench. The children of the Jenin camp wallow in it.
https://archive.is/5IadQ

Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 13:49 utc | 243

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 9 2023 13:32 utc | 242
As we are discussing movies and the Zionist regime – proxy to empire – these lines
always seemed prescient and ironic.
Judah Ben-Hur:
You may conquer the land, you may slaughter the people. That is not the end. We will rise again.
Judah Ben-Hur:
Rome is an affront to God. Rome is strangling my people and my country and the whole earth, but not forever. I tell you, the day Rome falls, there will be a shout of freedom such as the world has never heard before.

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 13:53 utc | 244

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210
I don’t know what your angle is but none of what you wrote is remotely true. Does this sound like controlled opposition :
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/11/30/israels-savagery-is-so-shocking-its-sometimes-hard-to-take-in/

Posted by: jr | Dec 9 2023 14:00 utc | 245

What a great human loss – that such people have arose in their forced geographic imprisonment is a testament to the cultural and civilisation of the Semitic peoples of the Levant.
Truly ancient civilised peoples who were captured by the Anglo European Zionist Empires Owners.
A Professor of English! A poet no less. How can such direct brutality and murder be ok for us in the West? Why the campuses of the U.K. aren’t in mass protest against the Illegal Apartheid State and its products, investors and banks is a tragedy for the British who have now wholly lost the capacity to judge right from wrong. Which inspired the 70’s/80’s generations
Back in the early eighties we stopped the Apartheid South Africa by not giving their ambassador any bully pulpit, by disrupting their right to free speech because they didn’t give the same rights to their own country’s peoples; we boycotted their grapes and apples at the shops by gently explaining to shoppers entering which products were from there. Most were willing to buy an alternative brand because we asked them and they felt that would make a difference ; we explained to banks customers as they went into Barclays about that banks illegal involvement in the African apartheid states and that they should open an account in the bank next door or across the street instead.
It worked.
We had no internet , no mobile phones, no tv or radio channels, photocopiers were not really available except at the library. So it was printed leaflets , hand written posters and lapel badges.
I just wish we had known enough about the illegality of the Apartheid state in Palestine 🇵🇸 then – we would have taken it down too. But we were still being propagandised about the death camps, the the fake judaeophobia industry , the happy collective cooperative kibbutz’s turning deserts into gardens – the nakhba and the plight of millions of Palestinians was swept under the carpet and the story was that the settlers arrived into a unoccupied land ! Hidden behind the violence of hijacked airlines and Munich Olympics. These ‘spectaculars’ that did nothing for the Palestinians cause and bolstered the Zionazis fables of entitlement.
My deepest apologies to the peoples of the Palestine for not having learnt enough then to have engaged directly as I did against apartheid SA.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 9 2023 14:02 utc | 246

There are numerous informative and thoughtful posts in this thread which I hereby acknowledge but can not list. It is thanks to such posters that MoA is meaningful. Thank you all!
Ii just want to add – after the expected debacle in the UN Security Council, and the cynical US reasons for refusing to support a ceasefire, it seems to me that each state has a duty to finally, and actually act to stop the collective death of the Palestinian population in Gaza and the crimes against those in the West Bank.
The UN system is paralyzed by the US and most of the international organisations have long been captured by the capitalist kleptocracy.
The Palestinians can not wait for the system to be changed. They are facing not only destruction by US/Zionist weapons, but death by starvation. There is no water, and no food coming in, according to todays reports. Public order is collapsing, as reported yesterday.
The world, human kind, is facing the most catastrophic event of modern history – deliberate starvation and military destruction of an entire people, the Palestinian nation.
Time is of the essence. States need to act now. Use all the levers that they individually possess in connection to, the by now rightly loathed, Israel, to arrest its abilities to continue starvation, the mass murder, indeed, the full blown genocide.
Food and water MUST be brought to the hungry and thirsty people of Gaza, and their relentless murder MUST be stopped. If the UN can’t do it, and it can not, ALL responsibility lies with states individually.
We know the US and its Western co-criminals will not do anything human.
That leaves all the other states. They should stop calculating, and be brave. If not now, when?

Posted by: JB | Dec 9 2023 14:06 utc | 247

>There are sooo many M E countries in bed with the Israelis and the Americans, Poor Palestine doesn’t stand a chance.
This has to change before there can be any hope for the Palestinians.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 9 2023 14:11 utc | 248

@Posted by: jr | Dec 9 2023 14:00 utc | 245
I don’t have an ‘angle’ except to speak the truth
of my experience.
@Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 14:16 utc | 249

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210
I don’t know what your angle is but none of what you wrote is remotely true.
Posted by: jr | Dec 9 2023 14:00 utc | 245
sow division among enemies.
Failing that, fear, uncertainty, doubt.
in this hideous nightmare of a world,
Caitlin Johnstone is the problem…

Posted by: Not Ewe | Dec 9 2023 14:22 utc | 250

Thank you Exile. These are the strongest words i have read since Oct. 7th. Gideon Levy has managed to express the horror we must feel for the future, unless we change course.

Posted by: Minaa | Dec 9 2023 14:25 utc | 251

@DunGroanin | Dec 9 2023 14:02 utc | 246

Back in the early eighties we stopped the Apartheid South Africa by not giving their ambassador any bully pulpit, by disrupting their right to free speech because they didn’t give the same rights to their own country’s peoples; we boycotted their grapes and apples at the shops by gently explaining to shoppers entering which products were from there. Most were willing to buy an alternative brand because we asked them and they felt that would make a difference ; we explained to banks customers as they went into Barclays about that banks illegal involvement in the African apartheid states and that they should open an account in the bank next door or across the street instead.
It worked.

Of course. South Africa, like Rhodesia, rebelled against the empire and the empire had to punish it. South African leaders thought they could get out of the gang and create and organize their own gang: that is not how mafia works.
But Israel is the godfather, so a completely different situation.

Posted by: SG | Dec 9 2023 14:26 utc | 252

@Posted by: Not Ewe | Dec 9 2023 14:22 utc | 250
I note that you are sowing division.

Posted by: librul | Dec 9 2023 14:32 utc | 253

what you think is not necessarily any of my concern.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Dec 9 2023 15:20 utc | 254

Only the BRICS-constellation has enough credibility in the Middle East to negotiate a genuine and long-lasting peace.
I can see MBS (Islam), Xi (Konfucian-Sosialist), Putin (Christianity) and Modi (Hinduism) eventually merge their thoughts and visions to foster the strategy for such a thing. There is nothing the West can do to sabotage such a venture when evolves.

Posted by: Et Norden | Dec 9 2023 15:35 utc | 255

@ librul | Dec 9 2023 4:56 utc | 210
A lot of blog censorship is performed not by the blogger but by the owner of the software. OpenWeb (not so coincidentally headquartered in Occupied Yafo) is probably the worst, with Disqus not far behind — and we all know what a POS Typepad is.
Of course it varies from blogger to blogger and platform to platform.
So I wouldn’t be in too much of a hurry to blame Ms. Johnstone.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 9 2023 15:50 utc | 256

Strong words pronounced by international diplomats, “disgusted”, “the future of the planet is at stake” but it is not about Gaza but …….. in Dubai, after a leaked letter by the head of OPEP is calling the states NOT to sign any agreement for the end of carbon fosils.
Let them moan a few days and close the tap.

Posted by: Minaa | Dec 9 2023 16:07 utc | 257

@ karlof1 | Dec 8 2023 23:20 utc | 173 belated reply,
Yes, that decision looks like the classic conundrum; security or freedom, one or the other, never both. It looks like a ‘guardian’ has been placed at the portal to that particular site to ward off any who would ‘trespass’. Shortly after that photo appeared, the site where the picture0s file was kept was hacked by Israeli ‘nerds’, depositing all manner of garbage to obscure the access to that photograph. I would not doubt some manner of alphabetic entity has put that warning in place. You are not being allowed to see it through self inflicted restraint; such is the state of the country today. Just an opinion, don’t know what to advise about addressing.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Dec 9 2023 17:01 utc | 258

The Crimean Turks [?] killed their slaves by working them to death. They took slaves from Russia, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and beyond for 100s of years, and the slaves they took disappeared…
Posted by: MiniMO | Dec 9 2023 9:33 utc | 226
oh. look. A cascade of categorical errors washes the victorious march of my neandertal and denisovan allele-bearing cousins into the 21st century!
Barker, H. Egyptian and Italian Merchants in the Black Sea Slave Trade, 1260-1500

On September 19, 1363, a ten-year-old Tatar boy named Jaqmaq was sold as a slave in the Black Sea port of Tana. His first owner had probably been a Christian, since Jaqmaq had already been baptized with the name Antonio. His second owner was a Muslim inhabitant of the port named Aqbugha, the son of Shams al-Dīn. Aqbugha sold Jaqmaq/Antonio to his third owner, Nicolò Baxeio of the parish of St. Patermanus in Venice, for 400 aspers in the local
currency. Nicolò also bought a fifteen-year-old Tatar girl from Aqbugha and a twelve-year-old Tatar boy from another local man. All three children were to be delivered to different people in Venice. Jaqmaq/Antonio was destined for Gabriel Teuri of the parish of St. Severus, his fourth owner.
Roughly twenty years later another boy named Jaqmaq, this time a Circassian [Syria a/k/a 14th cen. Palestine], was also sold as a slave in the Black Sea. He was purchased by a merchant named Kazlak, who brought him to Egypt. There Kazlak sold him to a commander in the army, the amir ‘Ali ibn Ināl, who raised him as a mamluk, a military slave….

1271-1295 attributed to Rusticiano a/k/a Rustichello a/k/a Ramusio of Pisa by some 14th cen. French translators of vulgar Latin vellum manuscript:
Wright. T ed., The travels of Marco Polo, the Venetian, 1854

…Under the stern rule of the Tatar monarchs, the interior of Asia, knit together in one vast empire, was fare more accessible to strangers than it has been since that empire was broken up; and many European merchants and artisans proceeded thither to trade, or to find employment at the courts of the different princes of the race of Jengiz [Chingiz, Ghengis]. The two brothers, Maffeo and Nicolo, learning at Constantinople that a market for certain costly articles was to be found amont the Western Tatars, purchased a valuable stock of jewellery, and with it crossed the Euxine [Black Sea] to a port in the Crimea; and travelling thence by land and water, reached at length the court or camp of Barkah, the brother or son of Batu, grandson of Jengiz-khan, whose places of residence were Sarai and Bolghar, well known to the geographers of the middle ages. After turning their jewels to good account, they were preparing for their return, at the end of twelve months, when their plans were interrupted by hostilities between Barkah and Hulagu [brother of Kublai], this cousin, the chief of another horde or army of Tatars, who in consequence of their approach from the eastern side of the Caspian were then denominated Eastern Tatars, but were principally Moghuls [“Turkic-Mongol” dynasty], as the former were Turki or natives of Turkistan [nth anachronism]. They are said to have crossed the Oxus [Amu Darya river], on their march from the headquarters of Mangu-kaan [grandson of Jengiz], in the year 1255….

Yule, H. and Cordieer, H. eds., The Travels of Marco Polo, the Venetian, Vol. I, Vol. II, 1903 third edition
Masefield, J. ed., The travels of Marco Polo, the Venetian, 1908
Moral of all Tall Tales: Always read the footnotes!

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 9 2023 17:37 utc | 259

Dear barflies, b.,
Thank you all for your posts, excepting the few unfortunate cockroaches, luckily very few.I appreciate every day more and more the calculated rage of the resistance forces,consider myself often helpless in the face of this horror.Crying.
Posted by: Exile | Dec 9 2023 12:09 utc | 235
Thank you for your posts.
I have watched the third video in your post above. It is titled ‘Military information'( El-Aalan El-Askeriyya), and it is a cinematic footage, animation which has to do with the release of the L-M90 rocket launcher by Qassam.
It says that tel Aviv will burn and ElQuds will be liberated ( Tel Abib seteharraq, El Quds seteharrar).
The related info is this, from:
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/al-qassam-unveils-m-90-rocket-following-3-barrages-on–tel-a
SFSN

Posted by: stranger | Dec 9 2023 17:45 utc | 260

Formerly T-Bear | Dec 9 2023 17:01 utc | 258–
Thanks for your reply, however late. Substack tells me of the 910 views so far 29 clicked the link to the photo, which is only 7%–I did pace an 18+ warning for the link as per substack suggestions that might have reduced the number, but experience is showing that links within articles don’t get used much. The idea was to get more coverage for Cunningham’s essay, and that was accomplished.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 9 2023 17:58 utc | 261

I have come to the conclusion that Jews look at gentiles as animals to use or bugs to squash whenever they become an annoyance. What an awful people.

Posted by: TheMillian1856 | Dec 9 2023 23:26 utc | 262

Cheers for you all in the comments, and respect for your thoughts, ideas.
I myself am finding it hard to follow, because it’s too much sadness and anxiety.
Rest in peace poet Rafaat

Posted by: Ghassan | Dec 10 2023 1:11 utc | 263

He picked a side, he lost.
Posted by: BlockMan | Dec 8 2023 16:12 utc | 77
I’ve picked the side of homo sapiens, as an entire species, free of history, religion, politics. We’ll see if I win.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 10 2023 8:56 utc | 264

Everything looks possible for those who’ve never had to attempt it before.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 8 2023 15:54 utc |
This discussion reminds me of a conversation I had in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. A neighbor referring to the many many poor people in New Orleans who had drowned or been driven out of what homes they had by the flood – the “federal flood” as many people now call it – said that they had simply made a poor choice in not moving away from a city where the danger of flooding was so high. To me it’s the same argument advanced by those who say that people who are poor have simply made “the wrong educational and career choices.” What they don’t seem to realize is that these people have no choice.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 10 2023 9:06 utc | 265

malenkov 57
Psalm 137 . The end of the Psalm addresses the females of their Babylon captors, how would they like to see their children dashed on the rocks?
and
malenkov | Dec 9 2023 2:07 utc | 199

“Context? There is no possible context in which the ending of Ps 137 is not depraved and reprehensible. Heck, I’ve heard no shortage of Bible “apologists” — what they really are, are excuse-makers — try to justify the verse as only a metaphor. But that’s a sorry attempt at excuse-making; even as a metaphor it is depraved and reprehensible.”

That’s why/how I fell in love with Verdi: in Va Pensiero, re-contextualized the closing of Ps 137 (as well as the opening).
Verdi changed “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” to
“O t’ispiri il Signore un concento
Che ne infonda al patire virtù!
Che ne infonda al patire virtù!
Che ne infonda al patire virtù!
Al patire virtù!”

[O may the Lord inspire you with a concert [or a poem]
May it infuse virtue into suffering!
May it infuse virtue into suffering!
May it infuse virtue into suffering!
Virtue to suffering!]
PS Machiavelli is fond of the term, virtù, which he takes to signify, Manly courage.

Posted by: ChasMark | Dec 11 2023 3:38 utc | 266

Zionist forces claim to have captured hundreds of Hamas fighters, who are supposedly “surrendering in droves.”
I smell the stench of fresh hasbara.
Footage has been produced showing naked and bound Palestinians being mistreated by our Zionist friends.
These do not look like Hamas fighters. Many are middle aged and obviously unfit. They look to me very much like the local butcher, baker and candlestick maker, rounded up at random by the Zionist kiddie killers for a bit of fun and a bit of torture. Just Zionist kiddie killers being themselves.

Posted by: anon | Dec 11 2023 22:10 utc | 267