This is a terrible way to usher out a terrible year.
John Pilger a Warrior for Justice
An example for all of humanity
Rest In Paradise

Posted by: ld | Dec 31 2023 15:04 utc | 3

I just received the very sad news of John Pilger’s death.
When watching his (rare) recent interviews I thought, How long will we have him?
A big loss for the world. Hopefully there are others ready to pick up his baton.

Posted by: Jane | Dec 31 2023 15:19 utc | 5

Dead End: Israel Gets Lost in Gaza
“The civilian death toll is usually taken to be a byproduct of a ruthless disregard for civilian by the IDF in their determination to destroy Hamas as a military force. But this is not the case. In fact civilians are a target too. This proven by an article published by small independent on-line journal called +972. The journal was started by four Israeli journalists in 2010 and now also employs a number of Palestinian journalists. The ‘+972’ is the country code assigned to both Israel and the West Bank and Gaza and may be taken as the journal’s commitment to a single state for Israelis and Palestinians.”
https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/dead-end-israel-gets-lost-in-gaza/

Posted by: Chas | Dec 31 2023 15:26 utc | 7

Lavrov latest on Palestine, from interview with RIA Novosti:
Q: — Does Moscow plan to organize negotiations on Russian territory between Palestinian movements, in particular Fatah and Hamas, to achieve the goals of national unity? How high are the chances that the Palestinians will be able to agree on the formation of a government?
L: Russia consistently supports the launch of Palestinian-Israeli negotiations. One of the obstacles in their path remains the lack of Palestinian unity. We support the actions of our partners, in particular Egypt and Algeria, aimed at solving this problem. For our part, we are also helping our Palestinian friends to find solutions. We provided them with a Russian venue for meetings. We encourage unification on the political platform of the Palestine Liberation Organization. We explain the danger of a split for the prospects of creating a Palestinian State.
In April 2023, Russia put forward an initiative to convene multilateral consultations to synchronize approaches to ensuring Palestinian unity. At the second stage, it is planned to involve representatives of the main Palestinian movements in the dialogue. Our offer remains on the table.
Most recently, Lavrov December 20, he took part in the sixth session of the Russian-Arab Cooperation Forum, which was held in Morocco.
L: With my colleagues from a number of Arab States, we discussed the situation in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict zone and possible steps to resolve it. The discussion showed that, among other things, we are united by a common understanding of the need to restore Palestinian unity as soon as possible.
In a short piece of news about the interview Ria Novosti included the following background:
On October 7, Israel was subjected to an unprecedented rocket attack from the Gaza Strip as part of the operation Flood of Al-Aqsa announced by the military wing of the Palestinian Hamas movement. After that, the organization’s fighters entered the border areas in southern Israel, where they opened fire on both military and civilians, and also took more than 200 hostages. In Israel, according to the latest data from the authorities, about 1.2 thousand people were killed, this number includes civilians, soldiers, foreign citizens and workers, and it was also reported that more than 5 thousand were injured.
The Russian Foreign Ministry called on the parties to cease hostilities.
According to the position of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the settlement of the Middle East crisis is possible solely on the basis of the “two-state” formula approved by the UN Security Council, which provides for the creation of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital.
The Palestinian-Israeli conflict, related to the territorial interests of the parties, has been a source of tension and clashes in the region for many decades. The UN decision, with the active role of the USSR in 1947, determined the creation of two states – Israel and Palestine, but only the Israeli one was created.
Comment: This is the first time I am seeing Ria Novosti not calling Hamas a radical movement.
On 13.12.2023
LAVROV stated that Russia country will not agree to a settlement in the Middle East that affects Israel’s security and does not provide for the establishment of a Palestinian state.
On 28.12.2023 the leadership of the Palestinian resistance groups issued a joint statement – Our Palestinian Vision.
The groups involved in a Lebanon meeting were: the Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command.
Among other, they suggested a political course to mend the rift between the various Palestinian factions, and to end all outstanding political issues to ensure that the current unity leads to a “unified strategic .. struggle” that reintroduces “our cause as a national liberation cause for a people under occupation.”
Please read the excerpts from the final statement here:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/our-palestinian-vision-leadership-of-palestinian-resistance-groups-issue-join-statement/

Posted by: JB | Dec 31 2023 16:04 utc | 9

RE: Posted by: JB | Dec 31 2023 16:04 utc | 9
Hardly matters what Russia wants. If there ever is a 2 State Solution, it’ll be made by force.
Currently, there’s likely to not even be one state.
It’ll become a landfill of bodies for the ME to bury the dead in.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 31 2023 16:19 utc | 11

If g represents the best and the brightest, Israel has every reason to be worried. Happy New Year, see you on the other side!

Posted by: Jonathan W | Dec 31 2023 16:46 utc | 13

Posted by: g | Dec 31 2023 16:13 utc | 12
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Wow, that’s a lot to scroll over.
WAs it Mark Twain who said, “I’d have written less but I didn’t have time”?

Posted by: Jane | Dec 31 2023 16:56 utc | 15

Posted by: Jane | Dec 31 2023 16:56 utc | 18
Beautiful! I had just read the first two entries and scrolled to the bottom to see who posted this nonsense, myself. Sometimes I wish the author of a post was identified at the top… that would be a big time-saver.

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 31 2023 17:14 utc | 17

RE: “aiding the worldwide, Islamist supremacy movement.”
Posted by: g | Dec 31 2023 16:13 utc | 12
Vs. “the Chosen Supremacy? The Anglo Supremacy?
Inni-meeny-minny-mo…
Or like the Ottoman Empire? Or like the UK Empire?
Sometimes… you just have to choose what’s right or what’s wrong as it unfolds In real time.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 31 2023 17:19 utc | 19

Having been bludgeoned for several decades by ‘identity politics’ of all sorts, I think that as a political concept ethnicity, whether racial, cultural or religious, or merely regional, is nothing more than a tool of the powerful to manipulate others into doing their will- which is usually murdering and stealing from other people. Conveniently, the world is not a homogenous place, so there is an ‘identity’ pretext available for killing anyone anywhere and stealing their wealth.
In that context, what does ‘genocide’ even mean anymore? The Nazis, no matter how you count the victims of ‘the’ Holocaust, notably failed to exterminate the Jews. If Hamas were to kill everyone in the State of Israel, they would not come close to exterminating the Jews, there are more Jews outside Israel than inside. Likewise, the people of Gaza may be slaughtered to the last infant, but Palestinian’s, by descent, by self-identification, will persist, and anyway, they are simply a neighborhood of a much larger Arab/Muslim ethnicity which is in no danger of extinction, short of the nuclear war that kills us all.
I think that ‘genocide’ has become merely a distraction to keep people arguing about insoluble problems while ignoring the fundamental issues of class, greed, and capitalism that actually drive all these events.
If Israel does manage to drive the inhabitants of Gaza out, some remnants of them will land elsewhere, where some malign power will cultivate them, cultivate their grievances, and use them and the atrocities their people have suffered as a pretext for more theft and slaughter. It wouldn’t surprise me if the west were to give them a state in, say, western Guyana…

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 31 2023 17:29 utc | 21

The Nazi genocide was not completed because of foreign military intervention.
But Britain, America, Russia did not go to war with Germany to protect Jews or out of love for Jews.
They did so because their vital interests were threatened.
Any concern over persecution of Jews was at best a very minor side issue.
In like manner, the Zionist Regime will be prevented from carrying out its planned genocide. Intervention from Lebanon, Iran and Yemen is likely.
But Israel will ultimately be stopped by its current western sponsors and cheerleaders. Because they will no longer be able to afford to support it. They cannot stand by indefinitely and pay all the costs this entails, the cut off of energy supplies and the collapse of the western economy being a prime consideration, together with the steady drift to a nuclear conflict. Israel will eventually be stopped by those very countries, because they realise Israel is just a liability, a millstone around their necks.

Posted by: anon | Dec 31 2023 17:38 utc | 23

“Hitler paid Jews to leave in 33-34, but few took the offers….and of course Hitler exempted all the jews in his life, including his doctor. The Germany military(which had thousands of jews, including Field Marshalls), big corporations, and tenured Academia were all ignored. ”
Posted by: pyrrhus | Dec 31 2023 17:16 utc | 19
Does it really count as a genocide, then?

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 31 2023 18:17 utc | 25

Does it really count as a genocide, then?
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 31 2023 18:17 utc | 29
There was never any genocide of the Jews.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2023 18:23 utc | 27

Posted by: Joseph B | Dec 31 2023 18:21 utc | 30
Correct.
Saying “juedo christian” values is like saying “dry wet” values.
What values are these ? List them for me, explicitly so.
What rubbish that people believe such things.

Posted by: ryanggg | Dec 31 2023 18:24 utc | 29

Already McDonald’s is closing restaurants in the Muslim world, and business is down in the US.
Starbucks has already lost 11 billions, much of it can be blamed on the ongoing recession/ inflation, but some of it is already being blamed on boycotts.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 31 2023 18:23 utc | 29
From sub-par burghers to sub-par coffee.
Unfortunately Muslim sellouts to Izzraeli franchises are now feeling the pain and ending up in the paradoxical position of suing a pro-Palestinian Jewish movement:
McDonald’s Malaysia sues Israel boycott movement for $1 million in damages
One moral compromise leads on to another …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2023 18:39 utc | 31

Posted by: Lysias | Dec 31 2023 18:30 utc | 34
St Paul was born and grew up as a Jew (as did Jesus) but converted to Christianity, which, in its early days, was a minor sect within second temple Judaism. So, in his conversation with the Roman officer, St Paul would still have considered himself to have been a Jew.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Dec 31 2023 18:46 utc | 33

Chas # 7 Mange tusen takk, many 1000’s of thank yous.
JB #9 Wow, yea, that should have been top of list weeks ago. The devil is always in the details, where, facilitation, etc. etc. It needs to happen even if 1 group boycotts. I tend to think that Hamas would be, if not magnanimous, would not be trying to run – dominate the talks.
Many here would hazard the same guess on the sticky, mired in the mud, retarded by friction, inertia and corruption organization who would boycott or attempt to run any such meeting would be. Note: Use a definition of “retard” that is based on physics. “1. to make something slower”

Posted by: paxmark1 | Dec 31 2023 19:00 utc | 35

36
You are incorrect. Christ was a Hebrew from the tribe of Judah who was born in Galilee. The evidence shows Christ practiced the mainstream form of what we mistakenly call “Judaism”.
The term “Jew” first appeared around 1205 A.D. Hence, nobody at the time of Christ was a Jew least of all Christ himself.

Posted by: Joseph B | Dec 31 2023 19:05 utc | 37

Yet, as we speak, Vicky could be baking a tasty Yellow Cake from a Tony Bliar recipe.

Posted by: kupkee | Dec 31 2023 19:12 utc | 39

ZH has a posting up with the title
Large Israeli Airstrikes On Southern Lebanon, US Warplanes Hit Iraq-Syria Border In Escalation
It also has one up with the title
Red Sea Chaos: Maersk Ship Hit By Missile; US Attack Helicopters Annihilate Houthi Rebel Boats
One of the boats got away….When will one of the navy ships be attacked?…successfully?
Our civilization war is growing in little wild fires….Hmmmm
Will 2024 bring resolution to our civilization war or just more chaos?
If nothing else, 2023 has further clarified the list of strong members of both sides of our multi-polar versus uni-polar world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 31 2023 19:16 utc | 41

RE: “Why does nobody (including the UN) care about these deaths? Why is Gaza so chic?
No Jews, no news…”
Posted by: g | Dec 31 2023 17:16 utc | 21
How right you are! First “war” I’ve heard about since 2006 Lebanon/Israel … just slow “news years”, and nothing for the UN to do…
Thank God “Jew News” has saved us from boredom of all this “peace” we were having and given us (and the UN) something to do & write about.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 31 2023 19:26 utc | 43

Regarding the Holocaust, the definitive story is spread over some 1,400 pages in three volumes, a work whose title is “The Destruction of the European Jews” by Raul Hilberg, a Jew born in Vienna in 1926 who ended up in the U.S. in 1939 at the age of 13.
If you go trawling the Internet, you can finds hundreds of mentions of him and his work, constantly referred to as his “masterpiece”.
Hilberg finished it in 1958 and took it to the Princeton University Press, the only university press that at the time could possibly rival the two big ones in England (Oxford and Cambridge). It would have been a gigantic pile of paper, typed double-spaced on one side of each sheet.
He announced that he was revealing to the world the “truth” about Nazi Germany, i.e. that the raison d’être of Nazi Germany was simple: the annihilation of every last Jew on the planet. Thus, if Germany made war on other countries, it was to get at their Jews and destroy them.
The editors were amazed at the quantity of paper and by the Hilberg’s thesis, which nobody until then had even suggested. For example, Alan Bulloch, a Brit who lived thru the blitz in London and had no love for the Nazis (to say the least), published in 1951 a huge biography of Hitler (which became a classic of the genre and was eventually condensed to give it a manageable mass for college courses). He made no mention of the Jews in the camps.
Consequently, the Princeton editors handed the manuscript over to one of the University’s most eminent professors for an assessment. The paper pile came back with the recommendation that the Press NOT publish it, for it was essentially Zionist propaganda, and its publication would tarnish the reputation of the Press. So, they rejected it.
Hilberg and his backers then went to Columbia, which also rejected it, taking their cue from the Princeton professor. The paper pile then went to two other big name university publishing houses, and the work was again rejected. Finally, in desperation, they went to the University of Oklahoma, which also rejected the work.
The Zionist backers then found a rich Zionist Jew willing to pay to have it printed, but he insisted in doing it on the cheap, so, it was done on thin, “Bible” paper with small print so that it could all be included in a single binding, 850 pages. It was then distributed to the libraries in Israel and anywhere else that would take a copy, and, as the definitive narrative, it became, in a very real sense, the “Bible” of the Holocausters.
A couple of years later, it was published by a regular publishing house under its imprint. This was a first-rate, “alternative” enterprise struggling to make a profit. The publishers agreed to take it on because the Zionists agreed to buy the entire print. Not only was publishing it a source of profit, but there were no distribution and promotion costs.
The Princeton professor who set the rejection in motion was a woman named Hannah Arendt. Hilberg and his Zionists found out her role and launched a sort of low-intensity warfare against her. Hilberg once remarked that she had never had an original thought in her entire life, and at one point he accused her of plagiarizing his work (something like Donald Trump accusing John Pilger of plagiarism).
Make of all this what you will…

Posted by: RJPJR | Dec 31 2023 19:35 utc | 45

RJPR @46 re Hilberg’s The Destruction of the European Jews.
Hilberg’s work has been demolished by Carlo Mattongno. You can buy Mattogno’s work online from codoh.com or if you like, download it for free.
Several people these days mention the sorrows of the Jews, with the Holocaust uppermost in mind. Educated people should know by now that the Holocaust story does not withstand the most casual scrutiny. The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust has many books and videos available for a nominal cost, and even for free. It’s good to find out for oneself that this is probably the biggest lie ever told.

Posted by: sarz | Dec 31 2023 20:07 utc | 47

kupkee@1843
With the direct attack of U.$. forces on the Houthi boats, the Pandora’s Box has been knocked ajar and now gapes wide-open. This gives the Houthis a moral basis for retaliation. Doubtful, though, that will happen anytime soon. They will simply wait for the long-planned air assault and missile bombardment from U$$A naval forces and THEN they will target the aggressors.
Though the U.$$A is the designated attack-dog for the Talmudist Agenda, this country has no actual agency. Even the Agency takes its orders from City of London. I’m already mourning for the American sailors aboard those ships who may soon be sacrificed for that agenda.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 31 2023 20:20 utc | 49

On that topic, most crimes Muslims are accused of by the Zionist and their stooges are actually inherent to Zionism.
For example, “Islamofascism” is never explained yet Likud is an openly fascist party and the objective of turning Israel into a fascist state is regularly discussed.
“Islamic supremacism” is again never discussed yet Zionism explicitly calls for Jews to be the supreme ethnicity in Greater Israel, which is explicitly called for expansion at the expense of its non-jewish neighbors.
There are so many more examples…

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 31 2023 20:49 utc | 51

Whitewash: https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/30/where-was-the-israeli-military/
No mention of the numerous warnings, the IDF/Mossad having been handed the exact operational plan of the attack, the conversations late into the night of October 6 or that morning, etc.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 31 2023 21:26 utc | 53

I’m hearing that some izzie troops are now withdrawring from Gaza.
Is this tactical or rotation, needs keeping a close eye on.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 31 2023 21:34 utc | 55

Joseph B, @ #38,
Wrong. The term “Jew” was around during the time of Christ.
https://renjiveda.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/jesus-king-of-the-jews-inri-holy-bible/

Posted by: Willow | Dec 31 2023 21:43 utc | 57

@23
“Britain, America, Russia did not go to war with Germany to protect Jews or out of love for Jews.
They did so because their vital interests were threatened.”
This is absurd historical revisionism.
America and Russia did not go to war with Germany in 1941 to defend vital interests because it never happened.
They never went to war with Germany!
That is really basic 20th century history.
Germany attacked both countries in 1941, Germany went to war on them, and they could avoid it.

Posted by: Cockshott | Dec 31 2023 21:51 utc | 59

Cut the crap of trying to compare the Gaza genocide with what President Jackson did with the American Indians. The American Indians were not genocided. They are alive and well and living within their own sovereign nations I.e. The Indian Nations. The American Indians were afforded concessions way beyond a “two state solution” that the Palestinians are asking for.
And even beyond that they all have their $4k per month stipend. None of them work. They can go to the university of their choice for free, etc. I think the Palestinians might be quite satisfied with an arrangement such as that.
Add to that, after a settlement was massacred by American Indians, Andrew Jackson led a retaliatory raid against the culpable Indian tribe. An Indian child, a boy, was the lone survivor. Jackson took the boy to his brethren tribe but they refused to adopt him.
Subsequently, Andrew Jackson adopted and raised the boy as his own son, sent him to private school etc.
Do you think that the demonic, Talmudic, Israeli named Bibi would ever adopt a Palestinian orphan and raise him as his own child?

Posted by: RLTW | Dec 31 2023 22:03 utc | 61

@ Moonie | Dec 31 2023 20:16 utc | 49
Yes, it is very true that awareness of the Holocaust and its appropriation by Zionism to justify its project developed surprisingly slowly. The first big popular propaganda on it I remember was the film “Exodus” of 1960, which already is filled with numerous Zionist tropes and mentions and exploits the Holocaust as background, though it does not dwell on it. It is important to note also that the rise of Zionist tropes went right along chronologically with the rise of Zionist political influence in the US, which became more decisive over time. After all, Eisenhower’s denunciation of Israel in 1956 and his forcing their 1957 withdrawal from their ill-gotten gains of aggression in Gaza and Sinai, by threatening to prohibit fundraising for Israel in the US, would never be remotely possible now.
As for Raul Hilberg being the first to publicize the Holocaust, that is not the case either. Although his study of it was early, he was preceded in it by Gerald Reitlinger, who had already published The Final Solution, the Attempt to Exterminate the Jews of Europe in 1953.

Posted by: Cabe | Dec 31 2023 22:12 utc | 63

It is really not helpful to deny the historically-documented massacre of Jews by the Nazi German regime during the Second World War. There are many details that have been conveyed inexactly by popularization, such as the idea that most of the Jewish victims were gassed at Auschwitz, but nevertheless many were. . . . This is similar to what is happening to the Palestinians in Gaza right now. The Zionists cannot evade responsibility for their deaths by saying, “Oh, they’re just starving; it’s their own fault.” No, it is part of the incipient Palestinian Holocaust that is going on and may be just beginning. Every Palestinian killed by whatever means, direct or indirect, is yet another slap against Israel, which is why Israel has already lost and cannot win for losing. I hope that this may be stopped, but I don’t see that happening easily.
Posted by: Cabe | Dec 31 2023 21:30 utc | 55
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Thank you, Cabe, for these trenchant comments.
It is alarming to see a MoA thread become a breeding ground for quite ignorant comments regarding the reality of the genocide against the Jews and others in the course of WW2. My own engagement with this subject matter (as an editor) pretty much aligns with your statement “Zionists have always hated the work because it portrays the Holocaust as happening incidentally and without central direction, and also documents considerable Zionist collaboration with the Nazis.”
From what I have read, some aspects of the genocide were haphazard and some were carefully planned. The beginning and then intensification of the war was what accelerated the planning time frame and/but also led to a lot of improvisation. Basically the whole “Holocaust” (a term popularized in the 1970s as a result of an eponymous TV miniseries) basically occurred between 1941 and 1945.
Regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis, a recently published book, written by Tony Greenstein, goes into this subject in great detail: https://www.amazon.com/Zionism-During-Holocaust-weaponisation-service/dp/1803693045
It builds on the work of Lenni Brenner but goes into far more detail. It gets a positive blurb from Ilan Pappe:
“Tony Greenstein offers a comprehensive and incisive analysis of the indissoluble nexus between anti-Semitism and Zionism. This connection is exposed in its ugliest form during the Holocaust. You can trust a courageous and committed fighter against anti-Semitism, such as Tony, to guide us through this particular dark moment when Zionism and antiSemitism interacted in Europe’s darkest hour to educate us about its historical manifestations and implications for our time.”
Ilan Pappe, Professor of Middle East History, Exeter University

Posted by: Jane | Dec 31 2023 22:14 utc | 65

Although the prevalent idea is that the Zionists and IDF are the only ones concerned with the ongoing genocide, I have come to the conclusion that it goes deeper than that.
I have just watched several “Rabbis”, who can only be described as “sh*t shovellers” describing tortures and ways to humiliate Palestinians, Christians and Jesus, followed by a girl who explained that as a Zionist, how she was indoctrinated with their hate from a very early age (really young). However, other Rabbis have explained that living in Iran etc was no problem. Assimilation was easy and acceptable for all.
It becomes clear that the structure of the society and early extremist “education” is a major reason how the IDF has become such a bloodthirsty army.
Unfortunately the rest of the society that remains in occupied territory is no better. Ie. Organ theft (including beheading of “returned” bodies to avoid identification), west Bank murders, massacres, (how many of those people stripped to their underwear are still alive? Stripping them does not permit easy identification), – theft of homes and anything that has not been hidden (money, jewels etc), two level laws, bulldozing people alive and dead, and so on.
BUT, once in a society that does NOT accept such things, the individuals are perfectly capable of change and adapting. Again unfortunately, the protections (laws specifically made for them) and the priviledges found by claiming a racial/ethnical superiority tends to change that recieving society in their favour.
So the problem lies in the early indoctrination. The bloodlust of the IDF and Netanyhoo, Smotrich, “arab” hating scrawny haredi kids etc at the moment, is one problem that will reemerge again and again, if the influence of original sinners, the Rabbis, are not changed or curtailed.
How? I have no idea, but I think the answer MUST come from within the diaspora itself. There has to be a wish to be accepted by the rest of humanity again (after Gaza).
An example is that the total Arabic/Muslim world is now united as never before, with an enormous part of the Christian world with them. Admittedly the media and Western Governmental censorships are working at maximum, but the true horror of Gaza has yet to become common knowledge. Something that will be inevitable over time.

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 31 2023 22:18 utc | 67

For info
The Death toll in #Gaza so far is 30’034 including 11’833 children, 6’009 women, and 58’313 injured.
According to our Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor statistics.
The dead includes approximately 7’835 Palestinians under rubble. More than 92% of the dead are civilians.’

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 31 2023 22:31 utc | 69

“Its my understanding that the concept of the “holocaust” didnt really even get popular in mainstream media till the late 60’s and early seventies.”
Posted by: Moonie | Dec 31 2023 20:16 utc | 49
The book and movie “Exodus” was a big reason behind the popularity back then of the “holocaust” and Israel. Take a look at this trailer from the movie and see how it feels in light of the Palestinian holocaust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1sSfNHghZc

Posted by: Chas | Dec 31 2023 22:43 utc | 71

@68 “Germany did not attack the USA in 1941. However, Germany (and Italy) did declare war on the USA on December 11th, 1941 citing as justification the USA’s attacks on German war vessels that had been ordered by Roosevelt.”
This is silly fascist historical revisionism.
Germany declared war on 11th December, a few hours before the declaration, the German Navy was given orders to commence hostilities. They proceeded to attack merchant shipping. That was an attack. It was carried out as part of a joint undertaking by the three Axis powers.

Posted by: Cockshott | Dec 31 2023 23:10 utc | 73

Now the Israelis are having significant issues with numbers of their pilots, many of whom had joined in on the revanchist attacks on the Gaza civilians. Mahmoud Od, whom I recently discovered via You Tube, just noted in his most recent podcast that the splits in Israeli society are nearing the point of developing into a chasm. Israeli air-strikes are reduced in volume recently. Some attribute that to admonitions emanating from the U.$. Govt.
Od implies, though, that part of that fall in genocidal bombings may be due to some of the pilots coming to the realization that it was the IOF itself which was responsible for many of the Israeli casualties on 10-7. particularly those many instances of Apache choppers blasting the Ravers and their automobiles with Hellfire missiles “contributed” by American taxpayers.
What all of these developments suggest is that civil society within the Zionist Entity is coming apart at the seams and may soon lose all coherence to the level where internecine civil war incidents may be on the near horizon.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 31 2023 23:11 utc | 75

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 31 2023 14:55 utc | 1
Thank you for your Consortium link, Aleph Null. In light of the busy newsweek this has been and New Year beginning tomorrow, I hope that b will include the article in the end of the first week of the new year’s WeekinReview. It deserves further attention.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 31 2023 23:29 utc | 77

Is this just the prelude to obliteration bombing?
Posted by: windship | Dec 31 2023 23:11 utc | 74
I thought this had already happened? Unless they intend to bomb the rubble …
If ‘obliteration bombing’ hasn’t got rid of Hamas by now they can bomb all they want it will sum to naught.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2023 23:33 utc | 79

Posted by: Cockshott | Dec 31 2023 21:51 utc | 73
It is not ‘silly fascist historical revisionism’ it is historical truth. For your education the following is the actual German declaration of war :-
“On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces: Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney, and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German submarines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that American destroyers attacked German submarines.
“Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships.
“The German Government therefore establishes the following facts:
“Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war.
“The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplo­matic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances, brought about by President Roosevelt, Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.”

Posted by: Siddhartha | Dec 31 2023 23:36 utc | 81

Aristodemos 67
Genocide by starvation and disease is Israel’s intention in Gaza. This has echoes of drowning witches in medieval eschatology, that if they survived, they must be guilty. Hamas is rumoured to have provisions.
Every ethnic group that flourishes by projecting their own satanic mindset onto a different ethnic group is by definition incurable insane. Projection scrubs them clean by loading all their malice onto others. The classic joke being the projection of malicious intent onto the goldfish. Lol.
Projection is a religious disease, where the exceptionalism of one group is believed by the Thy Will be Done religion as being deserved by the victim. The copium of the rape victim that their own sin has brought them assuage on themselves as karma.
No, the perpetrator has already identified the lack of agency of their victim before assaulting them.
Projection is caused by a history of abuse, being resolved internally by the victim as the world not caring about them when they have in reality been targeted for abuse by psychopaths.
In the case of the Jews in 19th century Europe the psychopaths were from inside the Jewish community, and this is also true now with Likud and Haredin who are gaslighting Jews in Israel. It’s actually very hard to look at Likud psychopaths ‘s faces because they are consumed with evil.
Lead us not into testing or trial by
psychopaths and deliver us from evil. Amen
The only way to deal with psychopaths is to humour them , avoid them, and if possible destroy them without giving away your disgust for them. This for me explains the nonchalance of Lavrov and Putin about the cataclysmic Palestinian genocide .
Both of them have already done the real heavy lifting against the empire 2 USUKIS hegemony project of Greater Israel.
Nobody else has done anything by comparison.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 1 2024 0:00 utc | 83

“This is how the Zionists are the biggest promoters of anti-Semitism in the world. ”
Posted by: Cabe | Dec 31 2023 21:30 utc | 54
An excellent post, thank you.
The irony is that without the Zionist promotion of ‘anti-Semitism in the world’ their quest for moral dominance would have been seriously curtailed.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 1 2024 0:19 utc | 85

juliania | Dec 31 2023 23:29 utc | 77
Happy New Year to you (or if you can’t be happy, be as happy as you can). I’m gratified to find more and more analyses out there of Gaza in the context of settler-colonialism for the past five centuries. I linked this one from MEE in a previous thread, it’s also worth a look:

This is the genocidal practice of settler-colonialism, dating back at least as far as Bartolome de las Casas in his A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies (1552). In it, he documented for posterity the vicious brutality of the Spanish, butchering “savage Indians” in an orgy of violence. Israelis are doing the same to the Palestinians.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-war-on-gaza-encapsulates-entire-history-european-colonialism
The historical pattern here compels my attention. Like previous data-points on a time-chart, the pattern implies a trajectory from today into something even worse. From tens to hundreds of thousands murdered, courtesy of one-ton bombs I pay for, as a USA taxpayer. Plus, in the tradition of smallpox-infected blankets for Indians, Israel deploys epidemic disease strategically in Gaza.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 1 2024 0:27 utc | 87

“Putin is the President of Russia. He deploys force against Russia’s enemies.
He didn’t phone up Hillary Clinton and say I will bust your concrete bunkers in Syria, he waited and then did it.
How are politicians supposed to behave, like idiots?”
Since when is Israel a friend of Russia’s? Didn’t an Israeli aircraft “pushed” the Russian Ilyushin 20 (IL-20) surveillance turboprop plane into the line of fire causing the Syrian air defenses to shoot down the Russian surveillance plane with 15 people? Actually the Russian military accused the Israeli army of “intentional provocation” and said Israel did not warn Russia of its operation in the area until one minute before the strike. Idiotic is to defend the indefensible. I may support the Russians, but they are not perfect. Nobody is. And when this happens, one needs to call them out. Just because I am ideologically or geopolitically aligned with a country doesn’t mean I am going to forget my values. BTW, Russian allowing Israel to bomb the hell out of Damascus is a fact.

Posted by: Jaime | Jan 1 2024 1:43 utc | 89

Downfall of the zionist colonial project will likely deal a heavy blow to the dollar. The europeans and their tribal supremacist ideologies can all go to hell. World War my ass, they were and still are wars between colonialist shitwipes calling themselves ‘powers’ over their ‘colonial possesions’. They can all go to hell.
be darak

Posted by: liveload | Jan 1 2024 2:15 utc | 91

@anon,
Zionism was invented in the 1890’s and Nazism arose 30 years later. Did the Zionists pick up tips from the Nazis or was it the other way around?
All we do know is that Zionist Israel was founded and has functioned through the Nazi workbook.

Posted by: rosross | Jan 1 2024 3:47 utc | 93

There are lots of No-Brainers here. — We have known since 1947 the Zionists, using the tool of Judaism, had to own what we now call Gaza. This could well be the last run at it. Netanyahu has said they will use the whole of 2024 (and more, as necessary?) to actually take over Gaza.
The “world” failed from day one, so they are not suddenly going to wake up. Gaza is gone, only the time has to play out — Gr

Posted by: graham Reinders | Jan 1 2024 4:47 utc | 95

well it looks like they, the ever-benevolent and great human rights & democracy defenders of the world the UK and the USA, are finally going to up the ante and broaden the israeli war against Palestine and the people of Gaza into a more regional war.
but as they say, time will tell
I also don’t expect the Houthi and their allies in the axis of Resistance to stand by and just ‘take it’, either
fyi
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/uk–us-to-turn-red-sea-into-warzone–launch-attack-on-yemen
“The UK is preparing to join the United States and other Western countries to launch a series of air aggressions on Yemen or Yemeni-affiliated targets in the Red Sea, The Times reported on Sunday.
According to the newspaper, an “unprecedented” joint statement is set to be released in the coming hours, issuing a warning to Sanaa to halt its operations or face a military response.
….British Defense Secretary said earlier today “If the Houthis continue to threaten lives and trade, we will be forced to take the necessary and appropriate action.”
Citing sources, the newspaper said that Grant Shapps’ comments were a “last warning” if Sanaa does not stop conducting operations, noting that the Western response would likely be “limited” but “significant”……”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 1 2024 6:21 utc | 97

In response to
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I’m well aware that there is no such thing as ‘national interest’ in the west, and that even the government clique that runs day to day operations does not really make possible, but I simply can’t find a group of goys that would profit from this, except possibly the Bring On the Apocalypse crowd. They’ve always been useful idiots; has someone let them get their hands on the real machinery?
Posted by: Honzo | Jan 1 2024 6:38 utc | 98
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Somebody has driven the bus into the ravine or over the cliff, depending on your muse, useful idiots or real psychotics. In either case we are at the squaring the circle moment where an immovable object meets an impenetrable force…..Bullshit is not going to carry the day and if its extinction they chose then blessings to those of us standing up to evil incarnate.
Here is to birth in 2024 of a new world with forms of social organization that support those of merit from the masses instead of the historic inherited and anti-humanistic few.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 1 2024 6:58 utc | 99