anon @ 20
“Let’s relocate all these people to…New York”
You do know an awful lot of the West Bank settlers are from New York?
Brooklyn wasn’t Jewish enough for them. Tel Aviv is not Jewish enough for them. These are crazy people who will be nothing but trouble no matter where they go. Perpetually victims, they are the least appealing marginal group ever.
Fuck them. Samson doctrine allows a marginal group of lunatics to hold the planet hostage. No reason to have any sympathy with that or to care where they end up. New York does not want them back.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 10 2023 20:27 utc | 103

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 10 2023 20:02 utc | 93
yep. Sometimes I think, Helmer’s too deep in palace intrigue to see ove the pit, look around. Which is a charitable expression of a parochial attitude to ROW that afflicts basic eurocentric experts and amateurs. “New world order” building doesn’t fall out of trees. RU and CN have better part of two decades practice pruning branches and conditioning soil, so to speak, without much interference from G7 navel-gazers. Look what grew!
SCO (2001 NGO): CN, IN, IR, KZ, KG, PK, RU, TJ, UZ; AM*, AF*, AZ*, BY*, TR*, LK*, KH*, SA*, EG*, MY*, MV*, KW*, AE*
BRICS (2009 FTA): AE, AR, BR, CN, EG, ET, IN, IR, RU, SA, ZA; DZ*, BO*, ID*, BD*, CM*, ML*, SN*, TH*, UZ*, FJ*, KZ*, TN*, TR*
to wit: spa.gov.sa | Saudi-Russian Relations: Alignment of Visions and Mutual Interests (06.12.23)

The political relationship between the two countries traces its roots to 1926 when the Soviet Union became the first nation worldwide to recognize the establishment of the Kingdom….

spa.gov.sa | Joint Statement at the Conclusion of the Visit of the Russian Federation President to the Kingdom (07.12.23)

[…]
The two sides discussed developments in the situation in Palestine…
Regarding the crisis in Ukraine…
Regarding Yemen…
Regarding Syria…
Regarding Sudan….
[…]

AND freshman orientation
kremlin.ru | Russia-UAE talks (06.12.23 PR)

President of the United Arab Emirates Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan: […]
In this context, I would like to say that the UAE is Russia’s biggest trade partner in the Middle East and in the Gulf Region. Let me note that the UAE is a major investor in the Russian economy. Investment in the non-oil sector increased by 103 percent over the past year. I would like to specifically mention that this is an unprecedented breakthrough which demonstrates the special nature of relations between our countries. I will be glad to continue working together on strengthening bilateral cooperation in various spheres. Of course, promoting development in energy, infrastructure, and high technologies, as well as elsewhere has special priority.
In addition to this, I would like to mention that the United Arab Emirates and the Russian Federation have been working together and cooperating within various international frameworks. For example, we work together within BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, where the Emirates were granted dialogue partner status in May 2023. We are also developing and promoting the strategic dialogue between the Russian Federation and the Gulf Cooperation Council.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 10 2023 20:32 utc | 105

THERE CANNOT BE A TWO STATE SOLUTION
THERE CANNOT BE A ONE STATE SOLUTION
However one pragmatic solution widely discussed by supporters of Isreal could involve the United States providing significant monetary aid to Egypt and Jordan to accommodate Gaza’s population. Relocating the Judea and Samaria population to Jordan, where a substantial part of the Palestinian population already resides, is a realistic approach and not a pipe dream like the one state or two state.
The USA has allocated substantial aid to various countries, such as Ukraine. Even if the US and contributions from NATO and wealthy Arab countries provided a trillion dollars to Egypt and Jordan, it could be a reasonable amount to finally resolve the Palestinian issue. Some funds should be used to construct a border wall and a no man’s land to prevent infiltration into Israel and thwart future terror attacks like October 7th (Israel’s own 9/11).
This post like my previous one, might provoke discomfort, but these are the ground realities. This pragmatic approach is crucial to address the Palestinian question. Palestinians deserve their happiness, regardless of their birthplace. Let’s unite to provide them with a new place to settle.
Posted by: David Cohen | Dec 10 2023 15:12 utc | 8
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Or we could send all the Jews in “Israel” to the Egypt desert since they think it is such a great idea. The land called Palestine belongs to the Palestinian people. It has for been such long before the Romans drove the “Israeli’s” out of Palestine. Now the Jews want to play Romans with the Palestinian people. Tuff shit Mr. Cohen. try again.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 10 2023 20:39 utc | 107

Somebody posted a link to boycotzionism.com yesterday. I scrolled down to the Charmin listing and clicked on proof and then clicked on source. Found the below snips there. Might be news to some of us? Ignore if not helpful, but made me wonder what else is buried at the boycotzionism site under the proof and source buttons.
BILLIONAIRES
Procter&Gamble Explains Why Israel is THE Startup Nation
Ricardo Geromel
May 16, 2012,02:10pm EDT
This article is more than 10 years old.
Procter & Gamble’s Israel House of Innovation collaborates with Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (NASDAQ: TEVA; TASE: TEVA), the largest generic drug manufacturer in the world; the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, which carries out more than 1/3 of all academic scientific research in Israel; Powermat, which has only 70 employees and is developing wireless battery rechargers. By the way, Jay-Z participates in the JV with Powermat and P&G not only as a spokesperson but also as an investment partner. P&G has also signed on bilateral agreement with Israeli Chief Scientist providing Israeli startups that collaborate with P&G favorable access to governmental funding.
Lital Asher-Dotan explained why P&G calls Israel a startup nation:
-Israel has the highest density of tech start-ups in the world. Israel has about 80 companies listed on NASDAQ, more than all of Europe, Japan, Korea, India, and China combined.
-Israel is the biggest destination for global venture capital per capita. In recent years, many US based VCs have opened Israeli funds and/or Israeli offices – Sequoia ($580M), Benchmark ($490M). Greylock, Battery Ventures, Bessemer. Main accelerators in Israel are: Microsoft, VentureGeeks, The Junction, TechLoft, DreamIT Ventures,The Hive, UpWestLabs, The Library, and MobileMonday.
– Israel raises 2.5 times as much global venture capital as the U.S., 30 times more than Europe, 80 times more than India, and 350 times more than China.
– Israel has the highest level of R&D spending relative to GDP in the world: 4,9% in 2009. OECD average is 2,3%.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 10 2023 20:40 utc | 109

“A Gazan wrote testimonies from civilians who were detained by the IOF in Gaza: “They forced detainees to wear explosive vests & to enter tunnels as human shields. If there was any resistance, the israeli soldiers would detonate the Palestinian with the explosives inside the tunnel!
Among those arrested and exploited as human shields was a 15-year-old child!”
Posted by: pq | Dec 10 2023 20:28 utc | 104
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Comment – recall who trained the guards at Abu Ghraib

Posted by: Exile | Dec 10 2023 20:58 utc | 111

Perimetr 81
” Excerpt from the article: “Vladimir Putin reaffirmed the principled position of rejection and condemnation of terrorism in all its forms,” the statement read. If this political doublespeak was designed to satisfy everyone, it instead shows an absence of morality and a failure of will on the part of Putin.”
The double speak is from USUKIS, not Putin. USUKIS controls the terrorist Islamists and Azov Nazis, and has deployed them in Africa, in Libya, in Egypt and Syria.
Russia gas opposed this USUKIS controlled terrorism, not to maintain its access to the Mediterranean and Baltic seas, but because USUKIS is using proxies as proxies to break International Law, overthrow sovereign governments and colonise resources.
USUKIS is posdibly doing exactly the same using Muslom Brotherhood in Palestine. Nothing immoral about holding USUKIS to its commitments to International Law.
Large quantities of weaponry have been sent via Ukraine to Hamas, potentially by Putin . So its conceivable that the diplomatic niceties conceal moral icebergs invisible to the rest of the world. Who are we ?

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 10 2023 21:02 utc | 113

Why are all the UN members except Yemen hiding behind the obvious US complicity and allegiance to Israel?
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2023 20:16 utc | 99
Don’t Forget Algeria declared war on Israel.
Weird thing is daily bombed Syria and Lebanon didn’t …
Syria S-300s never fired at Israeli Air Force while they have control over 2/3 of Israel …
Happy with downing “some percentage” of air missiles shot by Israel with older S-200 and keeping count of casualties. Unaware it seems that S-200 could be used as ground to ground missiles as well.
Something doesn’t add up …
Yemen prolly didnt get the memo.
Phony world I guess.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Dec 10 2023 21:11 utc | 115

Re sln2002:
Important information to frame the extent of SCO and BRICS expanded – then consider in concert with GCC ASEAN as well as loosely affiliated African states. This represents a very significant portion of the RoW as compared to the Five Eyes+Israel. At this time, the assumption of Biden, Blinken and Bibi is that they alone will determine the fate of Gaza. 100,000 civilians killed, the majority of whom are women, elder and most important children, says otherwise. Remember, a majority of these were burned alive or physically decimated. There is plenty of evidence on social media.
Close textual reading of various UN documents indicates that at the time of the creation of Israel, Palestine was delineated as an independent state as well – this has been obfuscated by USUKISrael. Inquiring minds would suggest that the aforementioned organizations will as an aggregate insist that, when the status of Gaza is being worked out, they have seats at the table for their representatives and also present in the decision making, the elected governmental representatives of Gaza which happens to be Hamas. Gaza is not an entity to be “disposed of” at the whim of Israeli security – The well defined end goal which none dare speak of is the emergence of an independent Palestinian state, to include the West Bank, represented by their government which was elected in free and fair elections. When Gaza is a free and independent political entity – BRICS countries and others will 1)enroll Palestine as member in BRICS+, GCC and SCO to assure mutual protection from UKUSIS 2) create in concert with the International Developmental Bank a completely organized financial and banking system using their own currency 3) immediately address in temporary form – field hospitals, schools and most important housing. None of which need pass through Israeli scrutiny. All of this is USUKIS worst nightmare – not that Palestine seeks to respond to Israeli massacres with in-kind violence – but enlisting their brightest and best, from all over the world, to engage in creating a country which will rival Shanghai and Hong Kong. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Too many war crimes, too many children, women, civilians have needlessly died to leave the fate of Palestine in the hands of the perpetrators of what is alluded to internationally as the Gaza holocaust – US/UK/Israel. This geopolitical re-organization will also involve far greater conflict since it tolls the death knell for the hegemon. Israel will emerge with defined boundaries, free to employ their racial purity policies within those boundaries – but never again will they be allowed untrammeled killing.

Posted by: abierno | Dec 10 2023 21:20 utc | 117

In addendum to my post at 116:
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1731442874254856194
“Breaking | Walla Hebrew Agency reports that all camera recordings installed on the separation wall with the Gaza Strip, intended for the investigation committee examining the October 7 events, have mysteriously disappeared.”
and
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/12/08/caitlin-johnstone-the-official-story-of-oct-7/ (the Consortium News site was supposedly overloaded earlier and I wasn’t able to click through to the article)

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 10 2023 21:24 utc | 119

Posted by: David Cohen | Dec 10 2023 15:12 utc | 8
Lol. Very clumsy attempt to gloss over the fact that the Jews who agreed to abide by the provisions of the Balfour Declaration had no intention of doing so.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 10 2023 21:29 utc | 121

“Perpetually victims, they are the least appealing marginal group ever.”
Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 10 2023 20:27 utc | 103
With all due respect, old hippie, you have not met my son’s in laws.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 10 2023 21:33 utc | 123

Chinese nomenclature and Russian Oligarchs need to learn the lessons and play wise. Time is running for them.
Posted by: Framarz | Dec 10 2023 19:26 utc | 79
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If you don’t know the date of the Day of Judgment then the Russians and Chinese likely have a lot of time to pursue their goals.
Everyone from newer “civilizations” (the West was never really civilized, it just got indoor plumbing and confused that with being civilized) expects things to happen quickly. It’s a TikTok/YouTube shorts low attention span mentality.
The Russians and Chinese both expect to be here in 1,000 years. The Muslims and non-Zionist Christians expect to be here until the End Times.
There is no rush and “haste makes waste”. Isn’t wastefulness the perfect description of the West in 2023?
All of that wasted time, energy, resources, and human potential.
To quote a wise 😜 American politician, “Sad!”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2023 21:36 utc | 125

Since congress has decided that calling zionists zionists is rayciss, going forward I will call them what they are: genocidal psychopathic thugs.

Posted by: Mary | Dec 10 2023 21:38 utc | 127

Israel cannot withdraw from Judea and Samaria, recognized by Palestinians as the West Bank, as it’s planned by the ruling Likud and its allies for settlement by Jewish communities.
This area is fundamental to the Jewish state. With 700,000 Jews already settled there, uprooting them is practically unfeasible. These facts are informally acknowledged by sympathetic officials at the US State Department and represent the majority view among Israeli Jews.
Posted by: David Cohen | Dec 10 2023 15:12 utc | 8
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Removing 700,000 thousand illegal Jewish settlers from the West Bank “is practically unfeasible” but removing 2.3 million Palestinians from Gaza is quite possible. Perhaps Israelis is showing the Arab world how to achieve the “unfeasible”.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 10 2023 21:39 utc | 129

They could also just be bad at math, Ed. 700k is smaller than 2.3 million, but maybe the decimal shorthand is so confusing… 😉 Dunno, could also just be an AI bot to get a rise out of people. But I prefer the “bad at math” theory, it helps explain how they fucked up so bad in estimating a danger reported to them by multiple sources over months.
It’s not LIHOP everyone, Israel’s government is just bad at math! 🙂 Don’t buy their security hardware and software because they’re bad at math!

Posted by: titmouse | Dec 10 2023 21:56 utc | 131

Cannot cope with the ongoing Gazan Holocaust. So far as I can see, the psychofascist zionists must not be actual Jewish people.

Posted by: blues | Dec 10 2023 22:06 utc | 133

Just published: Yemen has reroute a ship heading for Eilat, this time with reasoning and soft power.
“A proper engagement was made with a ship that did not heed our warning. He was prevented from passing and we forced him to return.”
Hereby I candid this lovely Yemeni guy, Brigadier General Yahya Saree, spokesman of the Yemeni armed forces, for the cover page of Times magazine. Who need Putin and Xi when Yahya is there. ;P

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 10 2023 22:19 utc | 135

https://tass.com/world/1718813
“UNITED NATIONS, December 11. /TASS/. The emergency special session of the UN General Assembly on Palestine will be resumed on December 12, the press service of the General Assembly’s President said.
“President of the UN General Assembly, H.E. Mr. Dennis Francis, has just informed Member States that he will convene the 45th plenary meeting of the tenth Emergency Special Session (ESS) of the General Assembly on Tuesday, 12 December 2023,” the press service informed.”
Interesting “wording”: “UN General Assembly on Palestine will be resumed on December 12, the press service of the General Assembly’s President said.”
Only “Palestine” mentioned??
Probably will result in “Hamas is a terrorist organization” resolution of some sort… then meeting adjourned…
I’ve no expectations of anything less than Israel being bombed to smithereens for the occupation & genocide to cease.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 10 2023 22:24 utc | 137

David Cohen @ 8 argued that it’s impossible to move 700 000 illegal occupiers, but stays silent about efforts on 2.2 million natives, including genocide.
What David fails to understand is that people like him are enablers, of the Holocaust and every other genocide.
Yes, an uncomfortable truth.

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 10 2023 22:38 utc | 139

RE: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 10 2023 22:23 utc | 136
Agreed 🍺.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 10 2023 22:44 utc | 141

simpol.org
the UN can be bypassed and it’s simpol to do
it’s called the simultaneous policy and it basically works like this:
each party (think ‘country’) signs a pledge to act, when and ONLY when, a specified number or list of other parties sign the pledge, too. So no one who signs up is under obligation to do anything unless everyone on the list or the predetermined number for that issue/action winds up signing up, too.
Like this: Hopefully Susan and Mark and Arch and Dun and b and pq will each sign a pledge that says they agree to mail a pretzel to Biden with a note that says I hope you choke to death on this. All of them sign except b (whose mailman lost the invitation to sign). So no one acts. If the mailman finds the note for b and he signs, then all act at once.
China Russia Iran Turkey Syria Lebanon Brazil Venezuela Ireland etc etc etc could in this way pledge to AT MINIMUM deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza stating usa israel interference will be dealt with by forces of all the signatories.
Not saying I know how many countries would need to be signed up. Just proposing using simpol -simultaneous policy – to do what must be done.
separately, sadistic, criminal “israel”, combined with writings of jews who told the truth about judaism, has finally convinced me that the only good jew is an ex-jew. nobody is more surprised about that than i am, but we are where we are, which is awash in dead babies galore, awash in annihilated hospitals, awash in horrors and suffering that every day reach a new zenith of depravity. don’t even bother. i realize there are some good jews. i hope both of them become ex-jews real soon.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 10 2023 22:45 utc | 143

fyi
former UK ambassador Craig Murray on why not a single nation in the world has invoked the Genocide Convention.
worth a full read.
“….Masks have been ripped off. Almost the entire political Establishment of the West have outed themselves as enthusiastic proponents of a racial supremacism, prepared to give active assistance to a genocide of indigenous people……”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/12/stopping-genocide/
“Every single state in the world has a positive duty to intervene to prevent the Genocide in Gaza now, not after a court has reached a determination of genocide. This is made crystal clear in para 431 of the International Court of Justice judgment in Bosnia vs Serbia:
…This case was specifically on the application of the Genocide Convention. That the ICJ has ruled there is a positive duty on states to act to prevent genocide makes it even more astonishing to me that no state has invoked the Genocide Convention over the blatant genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza. Not least is it puzzling that this action has not been undertaken by Palestine itself, which is a party to the Convention and does have the ability to invoke it…..
But there is something much more profound than that. This feels like a moment so shocking that the entire world is stupefied, not quite knowing how to act. An enormous rift has been exposed in international affairs. Previously, the developed nations had given lip service to the values of international organisations and to the basic concepts that move the UN, such as decolonisation, human rights and conflict resolution.
Suddenly, not only is genocide occurring with a scale and rapidity that is simply stunning – in six weeks in Gaza ten times the number of children have been killed as in two years of war in Ukraine – but the western nations are roaring on a racial extermination that dehumanises its victims. The western political class are systematically silencing internal opposition, and promoting blatant White Power marches thinly disguised as against anti-semitism.
Every developing and Arab state who spoke at the UN session on Monday described Israel in terms of colonial occupation. That is a real shift to plain speaking.
The world has been jolted, suddenly. Masks have been ripped off. Almost the entire political Establishment of the West have outed themselves as enthusiastic proponents of a racial supremacism, prepared to give active assistance to a genocide of indigenous people……”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 10 2023 23:01 utc | 145

RE: Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 10 2023 22:45 utc | 143
“they agree to mail a pretzel to Biden with a note that says I hope you choke to death on this. All of them sign except b (whose mailman lost the invitation to sign). So no one acts. If the mailman finds the note for b and he signs, then all act at once.” ROLF!
Such a GREAT teaching analogy!!
Spirited and on point! Cheers 🍻

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 10 2023 23:10 utc | 147

Nemesis @55 refers us to David Barret.
Barret is, and I use the word not as abuse but as a description, a fascist. As is the author Myers whom he praises.
Fascists are, for the most part, renegades from socialism who have transferred their hopes from the exploited to the exploiter.
The observation that socialists, such as Trotsky, are children of the Enlightenment who have rejected conservatism is wrong.
The Enlightenment had a number of aspects all of them contradictory of other some aspects of the era, but historically it was contemporaneous with the growth of capitalism and the transformation of imperialism from a means of accumulating loot into a system of commodity production by forced labour.
It was that socio-economic movement which used the Enlightenment to construct an ideology of the society they were building. The ideas were available all that ws needed was to pick and choose the ones needed to justify the system evolving.
Socialism- social-ism- arose as a reaction to the new ideology and the new society. It was profoundly conservative and can only be understood as such.Ideologically it was the polar opposite of the Malthusuan and Ricardian-Millian developments of the ‘Scottish Enlightenment’s espousal of capitalism- exemplified not just in Smith’s Wealth of Nations but in the works of a whole school of what William Cobbett called Scotch Feelosofers.
It is an article of the faith espoused by Myers and Barret that the epochal wrecking ball which has been swung at every society it came across- and that means almost all human societies- known as capitalism, which takes the form of imperialism when it puts its boots on, is the real conservatism.
They do this by defining conservative values as private property (unknown in many societies, known in none in the form currently observed) hierarchies based on wealth and power..Let me quote from Michael Roberts’ most recent blog on Napoleon’s economic policy;
“…Napoleon reckoned that in any society “the abler minority will soon govern the majority and absorb the greater part of the wealth”; as it was human nature: “it is hunger that makes the world move.” As he put it: “Whilst an individual owner, with a personal interest in his property, is always wide awake, and brings his plans to fruition, communal interest is inherently sleepy and unproductive, because individual enterprise is a matter of instinct, and communal enterprise is a matter of public spirit, which is rare…” https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/
That will do (and Roberts is worth far more attention than it is worth wasting on Barret)-Napoleon, the quintessential wrecker of traditional ways, was uprooting every inherited idea and practice in the name of the very values that fascists claim for conservatism.
Of course if one accepts that the opponents of child labour in coal mines, the theft of public lands by powerful individuals, armed plundering overseas, the prostitution and sale of young women and all the other characteristics of capitalist society, not forgetting its promotion of epidemics through unregulated urbanisation and its pollution of the environment by privileging the interests of capital over those of community-society, are fighting conservative interests rather than defending them against radical affronts to everything that humanity has ever valued or believed in…then.
Then one can call Trotsky a nihilist and socialists a set of people aiming to torpedo all that is enduring in society.
It is no accident that it is among the servants of the oligarchy-based on wealth- the capitalist class, in fact, that we discover the very ‘liberals’ that Barret accuses of being neo-Trotskyists, but who in fact, as Trotsky would have shown them if they knew anything more about him than the name, are exactly what they seem to be, a governing caste working in the interests of the Capitalists whose property they defend by fighting against the advance of the populace and the public interest.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 10 2023 23:29 utc | 149

michaelj 72 145
FYI
Craig Murray declared the Russian SMO illegal and said Russia should not have
reacted to Nato provocation.
There usually duty on all major , winning participants of WW2 to independently prevent the renaissance of Nazism, which Craig had spotted in David Cameron ‘s support of Ukrainian Nazism as long ago as 2010?
It’s totally understandable that someone who actively helped the US colonisation of Eastern Europe, should feel.pain at the reality of colonisation. Land grabs by privatisation, political interferebce , bombing NORDSTREAM, political indoctrination in Russophobic neo-nazism.
Craig Murray knows better than anyone that Eastern Europe was first fractured by Zthe deployment of Al Qaida in Yugoslavia.
So why ischexsqueamish about the deployment of Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. The US thinks it has consolidated Nato unity in Europe via Ukraine and can now colonise Greater Israel, the project for which 3000 people were murdered in WTC 9/ 11.
I’m sick and tired of butter-wouldn’t-melt-in-my-mouth politicos flagging up things others are doing that they themselves have done. Itctakes one-to-one know one.
Genocides don’t happen because of religious faith. Genocides happen because of World Giants trying to colonise continents like tectonic plates smashing.
International Law didn’t stop the US mcolonising Europe and it won’t stop the genocide of Palestine. What will happen is that the proxy, in this case Eschatalogical Israel , will be destroyed like Islamic State was destroyed and Germany is now being destroyed, once the colonial Behemoth has achieved its geopolitical objectives.
Germany can cry into its ski goggles, and Israel can cry into its prayer shawls.
Netanyahu has been told to announce the Greater Israel from Nile to Euphrates and a lot of people will get genocided while it happens.
Palestinians will at least have achieved martyrdom and paradise which is more than the Washington and London Neocons.
It takes one to know one.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 10 2023 23:45 utc | 151

Let’s relocate these people to where they will be happy among their New York Jewish brethren and finally lay the issue to rest.
Who could possibly object to that?
New York can take them all in.
Posted by: anon | Dec 10 2023 16:00 utc | 20

it could then be called Jew York.

Do these people have no sense of honor, of honesty, of compassion, of justice? Do they not realize that Lady Karma can transform into the goddess Kali…or do they laugh that off because of their “chosen-ness” and rank materialistic bottom-line “values”?
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 10 2023 19:24 utc | 78

Here’s a song for the jews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5P5nQXlgw

Posted by: Ново з | Dec 10 2023 23:54 utc | 153

Hereby I candid this lovely Yemeni guy, Brigadier General Yahya Saree, spokesman of the Yemeni armed forces, for the cover page of Times magazine. Who need Putin and Xi when Yahya is there. ;P
Posted by: Framarz | Dec 10 2023 22:19 utc | 135
The man has much Rizz.
He has my nomination.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 11 2023 0:00 utc | 155

Lital Asher-Dotan explained why P&G calls Israel a startup nation:
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 10 2023 20:40 utc | 109
The startup model is the most failed business model ever known to man.
It’s a great venture capital laundry mechanism though.
What would be interesting is to compare patents per country.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 11 2023 0:12 utc | 157

There are toddlers in Gaza having arms and legs amputated without anaesthetics because of Israel.
They have bombed the hospitals and refuse to let medicine in. Do Israelis not realise they have smashed the ceiling of evil savagery and the world detests them for it?
Well, everyone is having surgery without anaesthetics but there is something particularly evil about ensuring that happens with children, many of whom are now orphans and have no family at all to comfort them.
Every bomb Israel drops the Government knows will kill and maim hundreds of children. When Israel dropped bombs, as it did regularly, on the Gaza prison in the past it used the evil term, MOWING THE GRASS. To Israelis Palestinians were no more than blades of grass to be regularly kept in check, hopefully culling younger generations by either killing or crippling them, to weaken resistance to Israel’s occupation.
The Israelis consider Palestinians to be subhuman, vermin, insects, as so many have said. They probably do believe if you crush a Palestinian kid it just goes squish like a cockroach and white stuff comes out. No blood or suffering. Only humans have blood and suffering.
Do they hear the screams in Israel? Would they care if they did or would they just rejoice? Does Joe Biden who makes this slaughter possible hear the screams? Would he care if he did? The Norwegian surgeon, Mads Gilbert, who has long worked in the Gaza concentration camp asked that question.
“President Biden: Can you hear me? Can you hear the screams? From Shifa Hospital?”
Dr Mads Gilbert, a solidarity medical worker and longtime volunteer working in Palestinian healthcare, calls out to Western leaders, asking if they hear the screams of Palestinians suffering amidst Israel’s repeated attacks targeting medical facilities in Palestine’s Gaza.
I don’t think he got an answer. No problem though, Israel destroyed the hospital and silenced the screams. The ‘most moral army in the world’or so they call themselves, also left premature babies to die alone in incubators and then to rot and be chewed by stray dogs after they forced all staff to leave at gunpoint.
Who commits such evil? Who allows such evil to be committed? Well, our country does along with too many others.
The next time you see a toddler, imagine what it would be like for that small child to be having one or both arms or legs amputated without anaesthetic. That is happening all the time in Gaza because of the Israeli occupiers and our gutless Government is supporting it. because we are US lackeys and too many are manipulated by the ZIJ agendas…. Zionism, Israel and Judaism.
I would make the point here that Zionism is not Judaism but Israel claims to speak and act for Jews and indeed many support the Zionist State and everything it does. If Judaism does not want to be tainted and implicated in the evils Israel commits then the religion and its followers must categorically separate themselves from the State.
Israel wages war on helpless civilians, nearly half of whom are children. It uses the excuse it is targeting the Palestinian Resistance/Hamas but when bombs are dropped on the most densely populated place on the planet, that is targeting civilians. Israel knows that most of the dead will be women and children as the data has long shown. Around 70% of those killed, maimed and injured are women and children. Israel doesn’t care. Culling the Palestinians is the goal. Actions speak louder than words. Israel not only wants to cull it wants to punish.
Nearly half the population of Gaza are children. Israel is targeting civilians when it knows thousands of children will die or be terribly injured. Gaza is a prison. There is nowhere to run. Israel is bombing homes, hospitals, schools, refugee centres, UN facilities, everywhere that civilians are trying to survive. And it wants the world to believe it is not targeting civilians.
There are 20-30,000 dead already, nearly half of them kids. And there are tens of thousands of maimed and injured people, nearly half of them kids. Women and children so far make up 70% of the dead.
Israel has cut off food, water, fuel, medicine, power and ensured freezing conditions and disease epidemics. And the Israelis want the world to believe they have the most moral army on the planet. Is everyone in Israel insane?
Quote: A badly burned toddler screaming for the mother he doesn’t know is dead – and screaming because doctors do not have enough painkillers to relieve his suffering. An eight-year-old boy whose brain is exposed as bombing damaged parts of his skull. A teenage girl, her eye surgically removed, because every bone in her face is smashed. A three-year-old double amputee, whose severed limbs are laid out in a pink box beside him.
And in the background is the stench of rotting flesh as maggots “creep out of untreated wounds”.
This is the daily reality at the European Hospital inside the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, as described by veteran British war surgeon Tom Potokar, who works for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).
While the United Nations warns that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is “apocalyptic”, the Israeli military has expanded a ferocious ground campaign from the north of the besieged territory into the south, where an estimated 1.9 million Palestinians have been displaced.

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 0:33 utc | 159

@149 bevin
I will make the correction for you that it is Kevin Barrett I cite whom I believe is a Muslim convert.
Admittedly, most of what someone would cite at unz could be labeled as fascist, but in all honesty, bevin, I have no idea what that word means anymore.
I have already deconstructed how it was a mistake for Putin to appeal to the west by identifying Ukraine as Nazi or in the hands of Nazis, just as I think it is a mistake to label the Jewish-state as Nazi. In both cases, Ukraine and Israel, we are dealing with the Jewish powers-that-be. How does one deconstruct these language-games? You have to go back to WW2 and before where the Soviet-state which was given everything it needed by the capitalist west to defend itself against Nazi-Germany. The question has been brought-forth: why? Hitler had given so many ways for the great powers to deescalate, including courting Great Britain by emphasizing Germany’s desire for the Maritime-empire of England to remain a global power. Germany begged the west to see a common foe in Soviet-Russia, yet every atrocity discovered to be from Stalin and his people were silenced in western media, and Uncle Joe knew that his desire for Finland would have to be curtailed on account of popular sentiment that favored the small, resilient country on the Soviet Frontier. Just like Israel is being pushed now in the west to “wrap it up,” lest popular sentiment REALLY turn against Israel, Stalin knew that Finland would have to wait. Stalin could not make a pariah out of the Soviet Union. Just as with today, popular sentiment still matters and a domestic population is as much the prize of Internationalist Propagandists as foreign spoils.
America is not a Nationalist country. To the contrary, Germany was. Is Ukraine a Nationalist country? I would say no. In the article cited above, Mr. Barrett understands Russia as the nationalist bulwark against an Internationalist Cosmopolitanism. Would anyone doubt that Ukraine is actually secretly just at the behest of the Internationalist Clique that runs the west? Who here would say such a thing? Indeed, if there is an actual Nationalist Force to challenge the reach of Internationalists, you will find it in Russia, not Ukraine, which is actually just a silly stooge at the utter whim of Globalism.
Somewhere in time, the U.S. became the remnant Soviet-Empire and Russia became the Christian-Muslim Nationalist entity. Truth inverted. But the west can not openly say that it is communist…yet it cryptically advances its politics in every arena through media and the corporations that it owns. And bevin, do we need to remind anyone here that the media is entirely owned by Jews? That our government is entirely infiltrated by Jews and crypto-Jews? So how do we convince the retarded Goy that we are needed abroad? We need to protect Jews and Democracy for Christianity, you know.
It remains to be seen if what is left of the reasonable west can muster the will to call the forces affronting humanity what they are: Jewishness, not Nazism.
Does this mean that I advocate Nazism? No. Hitler’s desire for leg-space in the Ukraine, regardless of any sympathizers’ claim that this would have been beneficial for both Germany and Russia, is too chauvinist for my taste. As an American, I just want my country to stop poking about abroad and let the chips fall where they may. If our economy implodes…who cares? As long as it is not even more hyper-centralized under communism, I view the collapse of the American empire as a good thing. A more natural and inward way of living can emerge from it.
Neocon think-tanks always use the phrase “Inward-lookingness” as a sign of decline and so these mouthpieces will always encourage the American Golem to keep its foot abroad.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 11 2023 1:03 utc | 161

Israeli Army: 424 soldiers killed since the beginning of Gaza war, 12 Dec
“A newly launched website, serving as an authoritative record, disclosed this information on Sunday.”

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 11 2023 1:28 utc | 163

I haven’t noticed that this has been posted before. If it has sincerest apologies.
Skwawkbox reports that Richard Silverstein’s Tikkun Olam news site, reports that:
“srael ordered Refaat Alareer’s assassination after he derided Israeli claim of babies burned in an oven as hoax. He was right, but died for it.
“Refaat was a Palestinian poet and professor. It’s rare that countries assassinate poets. Not just murder them in wartime, but intentionally assassinate them…
“But Refaat was an unusual combination of teacher and activist. He not only taught his students Palestinian poetry. He also taught them Hebrew poetry. For this, he was profiled in the New York Times: In Gaza, a Contentious Palestinian Professor Calmly Teaches Israeli Poetry. And the Times published an op-ed by him as well: My Child Asks, ‘Can Israel Destroy Our Building if the Power Is Out?’
“Unlike Israel’s educational system, which promotes a triumphalist ideological indoctrination, Alareer’s teaching of Hebrew poetry analyzed and appreciated the beauty of the language, but critiqued that ideology underpinning it. This clearly unnerved the Times editors, presumably pressured by one of alphabet soup of pro-Israel media watchdog groups (CAMERA, MEMRI, Honest Reporting, etc), and published a “correction” to the profile.
“He responded to them (unfortunately they did not offer a full quotation of what he wrote):
“…He denied that there was a “substantial change” in his teaching and said that showing parallels between Palestinians and Jews was his “ultimate goal.” But he said that Israel used literature as “a tool of colonialism and oppression” and that this raised “legitimate questions” about Mr. Amichai’s poem.
“Apparently, this sort of social-political-ideological analysis of literature, a method taught at almost all educational institutions, troubled these editors. Instead, their correction implied he was a propagandist, rather than an academic professor…
“I broke the story here about Israel’s security cabinet issuing the Amalek Directive to assassinate six senior Hamas leaders and their families. It also similarly targeted specific journalists and their families. The IDF has murdered 80 journalists suggesting that it is deliberately targeting them for execution. This is a war crime.
“An Israeli security source confirms my suspicion that the cabinet ordered Refaat’s execution, because his joke marked him as being a member of the tribe of Amalek. An eternal enemy of the Jewish people. He was no such thing of course.
“He was a poet, a teacher who loved literature. He was also a champion of his people. He was an implacable enemy of injustice. For that he died. Along with him, Israel killed his brother, sister and their four children. It knew it would them along with the intended target. But killing entire families is now the Israeli modus operandi…
“Refaat was displaced multiple times during this war and ended up at his sister’s home along with his parents, wife and children. A few days ago, Refaat moved with his wife and children to an UNRWA school in al-Tufah neighborhood in Gaza according to his family.
“However, a close friend of Refaat’s told Euro-Med Monitor that he had received an anonymous phone call from someone who identified himself as an Israeli officer and threatened Refaat that they knew precisely the school where he was located and were about to get to his location with the advancement of Israeli ground troops.
“While the credibility of the threat itself is unclear, it contributed to prompting Refaat to move back to his sister’s apartment, believing it was more concealed than an open and overcrowded school where it would have been difficult to hide.
“For weeks since the start of this war, Refaat has been receiving numerous death threats and hateful messages from Israeli accounts on social media after prominent public figures [Bari Weiss, among others] singled him out for harassment and incitement.
“In 2014, Israel bombed Refaat’s home in Shejaiya and killed over 30 of his and his wife’s families.”
In other news Skwawkbox reports that yesterday’s march for Gaza in Liverpool was the biggest yet and that it was addressed by Jeremy Corbyn and Len McCluskey, the former leader of Britain’s largest Trade Union. UNITE (or the TandGWU as we call it.)

Posted by: bevin | Dec 11 2023 1:56 utc | 165

Most of the 700,000 illegal Jewish settlers in Occupied Palestine are Americans. Send them home.

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 2:20 utc | 167

@ rosross | Dec 11 2023 2:20 utc | 167
Do you have a citation to support this assertion? Not that I disagree or agree. Just want some evidence.

Posted by: suzan | Dec 11 2023 2:30 utc | 169

Israeli Army: 424 soldiers killed since the beginning of Gaza war, 12 Dec
“A newly launched website, serving as an authoritative record, disclosed this information on Sunday.”
Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 11 2023 1:28 utc | 163
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It sounds like a Jewish propaganda site to me. I think the number of IDF killed is much higher.

Posted by: ED | Dec 11 2023 2:33 utc | 171

@Nemesis Calling,
When the shadow speaks.
How denial of our human capacity for evil brings destruction.
ROSLYN ROSS
2 DEC 2023
Perhaps the greatest teaching is, Forgive them for they know not what they do.
We are all of us broken, mended and broken again.
It is something we need to remember when we see others acting in ways which can only be described as evil, i.e. that which is the opposite to life. Whether it is an individual or a State like Israel, which, at this time is inflicting the most horrific genocide on the Palestinians it holds under occupation.
This world is always about striving for balance because balance increases the chances of survival on all counts. That drive applies not just physiologically but psychologically and our psyche is constantly engaged in a quest for balance.
If we go too far in one direction we will activate the archetypal energies for the opposite. The goal is always balance. Trying to be too good leads to darkness erupting. just as believing we are good and evil only exists in others, will bring the hounds of hell galloping down the road.
This is why so many religious leaders fail so terribly at times. They have been captured by the archetype of ‘goodness’ and have ignored the sleeping dog of evil by their side. The power of the unconscious will always be far greater than that of the conscious no matter how well-meaning and good our intentions might be.
We see the results of shadow domination in our own lives from time to time and in the world around us.
The Israeli Zionist State is a classic example of shadow projection which results from a sense of being special and unique, both as humans and as victims. The experiences of many Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis was, with the help of the Zionists, entrenched into the Jewish psyche finding fertile ground with thousands of years of Judaic stories and teachings about how badly Jews have been treated. And that is not to deny that, like many religions, Jews were often badly treated. Some in fact like the Cathars did not survive.
The problem does not arise from remembering our past, acknowledging our history and honouring our suffering. The problem is when we tell ourselves that our suffering was and is unique and we are forever victims. This elevation of the self because of suffering in the often distant past is not unique to followers of Judaism. It is a common human response to injustice and trauma. The Irish and Armenians carry a sense of eternal victimhood because of historical traumas. However, unlike the Israelis they have not sought to inflict their victimhood on others. To be fair to the Israelis this exploitation and elevation of victimhood is something pushed by Zionism which, as an atheist colonial political movement, cannot be said to respect or represent Judaism. Zionism exploits Jewish beliefs and teachings for its own ends. And that is why it is up to Jews to bring the Zionist State to account. Until that happens Judaism and its followers will be tainted by association. Understanding the power the Zionists have over Jews is a vital first step.
And that means understanding a national psyche of victimhood and what it does and what it means for the society.
A victim is always innocent. A victim is never wrong. A victim cannot be challenged on their victimhood. All of these beliefs were the foundation both of Zionism, an atheist political movement, and of the Israeli State. Being able to hang all evil onto others, non-Jews in general and the Germans in particular, fitted neatly with ancient Judaic teachings that they were the victims of others.
I remember standing at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem many years ago and the guide translated what people were saying. It was a litany recited of wrongs done to Jews going back thousands of years. In psychological terms such inability to process and move beyond wrongs would be considered unhealthy and even more unhealthy to glorify if not deify the experiences of followers of the religion in an ancient past.
To fail to process trauma means we never evolve beyond it and we never heal. We remain forever in that suppurating wound even though it is an injury experienced not by us but by members of our religion long ago. To carry such a wound also gives a sense of exceptionalism and superiority when we believe that no other humans have suffered as we have suffered. When we see ourselves as unique we have already disconnected from others, those who do not belong to our group; those who do not share our tribal camp where we believe safety is assured.
This was the sort of belief the Zionists exploited with their demand that Jews must always be in power in UN Mandated Israel and a majority. A victim must always have an enemy and all evil must be projected out onto that enemy. The Palestinians were never going to be anything other than the scapegoat, the coathanger on which Israeli colonists could forever hang their many-coloured coat of evil, disowned utterly and projected unconsciously onto others.
However as Carl Jung so insightfully explained, what is repressed does not die but remains in the darkness of the unconscious and becomes ever more powerful. The human capacity for evil denied by victims will become bestial in nature and will be expressed by them unconsciously and reflected in the world around them. In such a state of psychological blindness the worst atrocities can be committed against others and literally, never seen. Just as trauma can create literal blindness, so can denial create emotional and psychological blindness.
Myths also reside in the unconscious and emerge in their own time. The popular Judaic story of Samson, is highly symbolic of the State of Israel. Samson was deeply flawed but incredibly powerful. He lost his power, was blinded and ultimately ‘triumphed’ by destroying himself and everyone else. Samson became a victim and died as a victim.
Samson is the biblical Hercules, a man of super-human strength who nonetheless could not escape tragedy. Samson’s story is found in the Book of Judgeschapters 13-16. He is the last of the major judges who led the Israelites, but he is hardly an ideal role model or savior. Samson breaks vows, marries outside of the people of Israel twice, and functions more as a vigilante than a leader.
The text concludes: “Those he killed at his death were more than those he had killed during his life” (Judges 16:30
In psychological and emotional terms, victimhood becomes a sanctuary and a prison. It excuses everything and allows anything. A victim cannot relate to concepts of morality, ethics, integrity or compassion because all of those qualities can only ever rest within them and be owed only to them. Victimhood sucks energy from everything and creates a narcissistic vacuum where fear rules and power is demanded.
But the retreat into victimhood always destroys those who believe they are victims and those around them. Just as it did with Samson. Israelis cannot see the suffering of the native people of the land they occupy and continue to colonise because that would diminish their own suffering and challenge their sense of victimhood and exceptionalism. For most, all of this is unconscious. They are imprisoned in the Temple of victimhood, wearing only a flimsy cloth of denial, as they rage against the world around them.
If Israelis had had true friends they would have been gently but powerfully helped to face their own darkness, their own lies and their own evil and they would never have been able to commit the atrocities they have against the Palestinians. The genocidal horrors of Israel’s foundation would have been addressed and redressed and they could have moved forward accountable, clear-eyed and compassionate. But that did not happen.
Israelis have not only betrayed themselves but they have been betrayed by their supporters, Jews, Zionists, Christians, those who call themselves friends, but who have enabled Israelis to debase themselves in the name of military colonial domination, bigotry and elitist victimhood.
Just as Israel failed to know its own capacity for evil, so it is important for all of us to recognise that the evil Israel expresses is also ours to own. The world at large has played a major part in what the Israeli State was and is and all that it has done. None of us can point the finger and all of us must react with grace and compassion to those tormented in this terrible struggle and that is Palestinians and Israelis alike.
https://roslynross.substack.com/p/when-the-shadow-speaks?utm_source=substack&publication_id=2101353&post_id=139351457&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&r=ppxvi

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 2:39 utc | 173

@ED
Re: numbers of IDF dead. We know Israel lies through its teeth. They are admitting to 5000 severely wounded so the figure is probably 10,000 injured. The ratio generally goes or went on a basis of 8 injured to every dead soldier. So probably 1-2000 dead soldiers for the injury rate. It could be more. There is no way Israel would admit true figures. And to be fair, in a war, who would.
Israel’s problem is it is a tiny little country where most adults are soldiers, either in the army imposing occupation, or as reservists. Kill, injure or remove thousands of civilians and you cripple the economy. Do it long enough and you destroy the economy. With boycotts also having an impact, the reality is Israel cannot afford this war.
One presumes the latest probably lies about hundreds of Hamas fighters, who all look like soft shopkeepers, surrendering is to pave the way to Israel lying itself out of this war. There will of course by a horrific genocidal bombardment before it exits but that is nothing new. And all that does is make sane people of conscience in the world, just hate Israelis even more.

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 3:05 utc | 175

Question RE:
The “40 beheaded israeli babies” claim:
While the claim of “beheaded babies” has been shown to be a media lie created by the IDF, injected into the MSM by i24News and propagated by Western MS like CNN, British Tabloids and then confirmed by IDF spokesman and Biden himself, I have no idea how the number “40” entered the psychotoxin mix:
Does anyone know where the number 40 came from exactly and at which point it entered the narrative?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 11 2023 3:37 utc | 177

@ rosross 173
Thx???
…
In the spirit of Advent, I have been trying to listen more and be more charitable.
I read your post to me and I assume that something in you was ticked off about my lack of scapegoating the Nazis for sole responsibility for WW2. Or for not crying for the Jews who died then.
Why should I cry just for the Jews?? I cry for all victims of tribal violence, not just the Jews. But I am not that naive to understand an aspect of determinism in geopolitics.
Obviously, what is at bottom of all conflict is an aversion to the universal. Tribal envy. World Jewry pulled the rubber-band back so far that it snapped back and gave birth to a cataclysm. Does it appear to be the same phenomenon rearing its ugly head in this current iteration or state of events? I would say it most certainly is.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 11 2023 3:51 utc | 179

@ Jane | 178
a propos the lies of Israel –
I do not know if the speech by Chris Hedges on 12/06 “The Genocide in Gaza” was linked on MoA, but it is very good to hear about the ‘small lies, big lies and huge lies’ coming out of Israel over decades.
(264) Chris Hedges “The Genocide in Gaza” – YouTube

Posted by: fanto | Dec 11 2023 4:18 utc | 181

Israeli Army: 424 soldiers killed since the beginning of Gaza war, 12 Dec
“A newly launched website, serving as an authoritative record, disclosed this information on Sunday.”
Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 11 2023 1:28 utc | 163
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It sounds like a Jewish propaganda site to me. I think the number of IDF killed is much higher.
Posted by: ED | Dec 11 2023 2:33 utc | 171
Of the little over 900 named Israeli dead for Oct7 , over 400 were military, mostly officers and NCO’s. In just one incident in Gaza, Hamas destroyed a group of sixty or so IDF, first with mines and finishing off those who survived the mines with rifles ect. There have been other smaller ambushes of IDF troops, along with the ongoing destruction of armoured vehicles. Early Israeli photos showed Israeli troops and armour all without cover on the narrow bulldozed strips. All sitting ducks. That may have changed a bit now as the Israeli forces don’t appear to be trying to bulldoze wide clear strips as the move into the high density urban areas.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 11 2023 4:49 utc | 183

NemesisCalling | Dec 11 2023 4:20 utc | 182
Ukraine is not a nation: that’s the problem with that nationalism before it starts. It is an artificial construct from the beginning. Most of The Ukraine is a part of Russia. And the Bandera-ites know it- that is why they are using such brutal and over the top methods to eradicate Russian culture. It is also why they want to use English as the second language.
Galicia has always had a different sort of history than Kiev and the east. Lemburg was a major trade hub in the early medieaval period, hence its German influenced culture and large Jewish population. And then, while Potemkin and Samuel Bentham ( a stretch but he has to be mentioned if only for housing his brother and building the first panopticon on a Dnieper estate he managed) were building New Russia Galicia was part of Poland- the highly exploited part.
Anyway I don’t think that you can compare Russian or German nationalism with the Ukrainian version that now looks inevitably to be forgotten before it learned to talk, but after it had learned the tantrum throwing art.
I’m sure that we all hope that things are going to calm down over Christmas- it will be interesting to see whether the Ben Gvir’s and other Christ haters double up the killing on Christmas day.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 11 2023 5:49 utc | 185

184
When a Jew ends up like our David Cohen supporting the Holocaust of Palestinians, he has left Judaism and entered Nationalism.
Personally , I believe that there is a much larger core of left-wing anti-Nationalism in Israel exactly as there is in Britain as demonstrated by 2019 support for Jeremy Corbyn.
But the smoke and mirrors of elections changed by algorithms has created an illusion of universal Tory Fascism / Nationalism in Britain.
This is where I believe Alistair Crooke is disingenuous. Since when have brassed opinion polls been evidence for anything.
Kick outside closet Fascists and talk with the Jewish voices of reason.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 11 2023 6:11 utc | 187

@Suzan,
Which assertion? That many of the illegal Jewish settlers in Palestine are American?

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 6:21 utc | 189

@Suzan,
I should have said most of the extremist illegal Jewish settlers are American. They make up about 15% apparently, or they did in 2021. Send them home and when Palestine is free the rest might be happy to remain as Palestinians.

Posted by: rosross | Dec 11 2023 6:35 utc | 191

@Suresh | Dec 10 2023 22:38 utc | 139

What David fails to understand is that people like him are enablers, of the Holocaust and every other genocide.

What makes you think he fails to understand he is enabling genocide?

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 11 2023 6:44 utc | 193

Jewish American Historian Ron Unz has published another magnum opus –
American Pravda: The Nakba and the Holocaust •
Eliminating the Entire Palestinian People<\b>
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-nakba-and-the-holocaust/

Posted by: Exile | Dec 11 2023 8:16 utc | 195

Just published: Yemen has reroute a ship heading for Eilat, this time with reasoning and soft power.
Posted by: Framarz | Dec 10 2023 22:19 utc | 135

So I asked if “reasoning” will be the new approach by Ansarallah.
Answer: this specific ship belonged to a “friendly” third party in East Asia. They were not aware that export of electronic parts to Zionist Apartheid regime is not allowed anymore.

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 11 2023 8:44 utc | 197

RE: : rosross | Dec 11 2023 2:39 utc | 173
Nice try, and complete BS.
The “modern” mindset of “everyone is to blame, therefore no one is held accountable”.
“Everyone is a victim, therefore everyone/no one is a perpetrator”, therefore all/no one is responsible”.
Other such “modern mindset” word salad manipulation of responsibility.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 11 2023 9:13 utc | 199