First-class performance by Alastair Crooke on the Napolitano show just now. He’s been right all along the line. What interested me is that he’s by no means unpositive about the future for Hamas and Hizbullah. He says Hamas are very confident, even after all this battering, and even after the more and more overt commitment of Israel to what he calls Armageddon, that is, finishing off Gaza entirely.

Posted by: laguerre | Dec 4 2023 13:36 utc | 203

Surprising headline at Reuters just now.
Seeing a headline there, of all places, that is not lockstep with hegemony
is unexpected to say the least.
Main Headline At Reuters:
“Israel orders more Gazans to flee,
bombs areas where it sends them”

Posted by: librul | Dec 4 2023 13:46 utc | 205

I see the attempts to go off topic are never ending.
On the subject of the Lawyer Khan of the ICC is that the khant who was encouraged to go after Putin by getting a early release from prison for his paedophile brother?
If we could un-invent lawyers would he have more justice on the world?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 4 2023 14:18 utc | 207

Interesting article by Dan Cohen on the abysmal state of the zionist military, poor morale of the troops, corruption, a culture of lying to superiors, etc. Reading this it is easy to understand the shambolic failure on Oct.7:

One commander described “severe discipline problems, severe gaps in the fighting spirit and motivation to carry out tasks, severe gaps in the operational routine, smoking drugs, drinking alcoholic beverages, using smartphones during training and also in operational activity. All of these are ignored by the senior commanders and it is very convenient for them to present a false image to their superiors that will show their commanders that the unit is in good condition, so the culture of lies is skyrocketing.”

‘General Brik Predicted the October 7 Attack. Now He’s Advising Netanyahu’s Genocidal Assault on Gaza.’
https://www.uncaptured.media/p/general-brik-predicted-the-october

Posted by: Browser | Dec 4 2023 14:24 utc | 209

@canuck | Dec 3 2023 22:25 utc | 90
and others who see october 7 as just intelligence failure etc
I suggest it was intelligence failure either one pretended or one helped by the US. If I understood the financial times correctly they suggested that the US somehow counteracted the Israeli security systems, saying about Hamas ‘Let them try’.
(If it is workable to jam the surveillance systems with EM weapons that would be a way)
And Netanyahu got the casus belli he desired.
There is an understanding among the western elites.
No need to know everything to communicate in that collective.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 4 2023 14:29 utc | 211

Will the entire world continue to stand by and watch this genocide unfold?
Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 4 2023 14:31 utc | 212
Yes

Posted by: Jonathan W | Dec 4 2023 14:33 utc | 213

Posted by: canuck | Dec 4 2023 10:52 utc | 166
True.
Had read it in its entirety from the British Library some decades ago (today, conveniently indisposed by a “technology outage as a result of a cyber-attack”?). Have been entertained by the fee schedule pertaining to crusading peers returned with spoils from the Levant, financial freedom of widows, and the sections that carve concomitant tiers into the hierarchy of debts sanctioned by the crown. John, by the Grace of God…

[…]
10. If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond.
11. And if anyone die indebted to the Jews, his wife shall have her dower and pay nothing of that debt; and if any children of the deceased are left under age, necessaries shall be provided for them in keeping with the holding of the deceased; and out of the residue the debt shall be paid, reserving, however, service due to feudal lords; in like manner let it be done touching debts due to others than Jews
[…]

Just so, I remain entertained by the umm fluidity of English constitutional order, as amended and emended versions by John’s successors are easier than the original or any bills debated by the moderne HOC to locate.

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 4 2023 14:36 utc | 215

“bevin needs the liberal midwits for his communist master plan…”
We have no use for them bevin. Carry on.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 4 2023 14:41 utc | 217

Re canuck (#166): “ Before the Magna Carat the serfs could hunt in the ‘commons’, the King’s land. After the Magna Carta if the serfs hunted in the King’s land they would be hung.”
And who did that benefit? Certainly not the barons who forced the tyrant John to sign Magna Carta. A red herring at best regarding the effects of Magna Carta.
Posted by: Ciaran | Dec 4 2023 13:29 utc | 199
The barons did benefit, Ciaran, kindly please read below:
 Guy Standing exults over Magna Carta as “one of the greatest political documents of all time”. This is a myth. It was a thoroughly reactionary coup consolidating the power of a rampant military caste – the barons – at the expense of the central authority, the king, which aimed to control them. The great majority of the clauses entrenched baronial rights. As for the one which guaranteed the freedom of the English church, it meant that the clerics were to keep their cherished privilege of only paying the taxes they wanted to – very little – and to keep the punishment of criminal priests in the hands of priests.
There were also antisemitic clauses which cancelled loan arrangements freely entered into – by the barons again. Most notorious of all was the clause which created a military junta as the supreme power in England. A council of 25 barons was created; any vacancies were to be filled by the other barons.
The famous declaration by the king that he would not deny justice to any free man was put in as propaganda by the astute archbishop of Canterbury, Stephen Langton, as a sop to the growing power of the mercantile class. It affected very few, as if we were to give the privilege of free trial today to all earning over £500,000 a year.
Emo Williams
Shere, Surrey
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/23/magna-carta-reactionary-radical

Posted by: canuck | Dec 4 2023 14:48 utc | 219

The Saudi Military are really just operated by Yanks, Brits, with Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Sudanese, Ethiopian and other footsoldiers
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 4 2023 12:05 utc | 180
FYI. Pakistan Government refused to get involved in the Saudi carnage. So what you assert is incorrect. But Egyptians were there.

Posted by: sal | Dec 4 2023 14:51 utc | 221

Scorpion | Dec 4 2023 0:39 utc | 104
*** Russia too seems somewhat neutral; given there are a couple of million Jewish Russian citizens in Israel, this is to be expected.***
That could be expressed more in keeping with reality … a couple of million Israeli citizens have also got Russian passports.
So if things get bad in their own country, they can just scuttle back into Russia and gain from what true, loyal Russians have in their absence been doing to rebuild the place following its destruction and looting due to betrayal to the US-empire by Oligarchs and associated mafia — rather a lot of whom are likewise now citizens of Israel.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2023 14:52 utc | 223

Posted by: Jane | Dec 4 2023 14:52 utc | 222
Jane, context.
DOI (Disease of Israel) is a epithet coined by a MoA contributor just this weekend. Use the site search function to locate the first instance. Good luck wit dat.
DOI (Digital Object Identifier) is a categorical term assigned by a computer programmer to software and hardware devices relayed by ITC having nothing to do per se with any one computer programmer’s employer.

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 4 2023 15:13 utc | 225

Chaka Khagan@214….so voters are duped to follow and vote for who they are told, like two choices, flip a coin or vote the same way expecting change then being shit on by those in power, every fucking time……..oh, so very Canadian, eh!
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2023 15:26 utc | 227

I’m waiting for them to run out of bombs, and they will, just like Ukraine, but quicker.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 4 2023 15:03 utc | 224

Now … you are touching something there.

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 4 2023 15:44 utc | 229

Horrible anti-semites want you to boycott Israeli products:
…..Google has reinstated a popular mobile phone app designed to help people boycott companies linked to Israel, days after it was removed it from its Play store.
The No Thanks app allows users to scan the barcodes of products or enter their name to find out if the item is linked to Israel.
According to developers, the app was removed because a sentence in the description read: “Welcome to No Thanks, here you can see if the product in your hand supports killing children in Palestine or not.”
On 3 December, Google reinstated the app to its Play Store with a new description reading: “Our app simplifies the process of scanning barcodes and searching for products that are listed for the boycott movement.”…….

Posted by: Exile | Dec 4 2023 15:47 utc | 231

226 – The late Kissinger is supposed to have said of the sides that it was a shame both could not lose.
If there was a winner, it was Israel – early in the conflict a British reporter saw an abandoned schoolroom in a deserted village either just inside Iraq or just inside Iran. The map on the wall showed the “Zionist entity” in black, but two professed enemies of it were not fighting Israel but each other. On the whole I think it was a draw.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 4 2023 16:04 utc | 233

@canuck | Dec 3 2023 22:25 utc | 90
and others who see october 7 as just intelligence failure etc
I suggest it was intelligence failure either one pretended or one helped by the US. If I understood the financial times correctly they suggested that the US somehow counteracted the Israeli security systems, saying about Hamas ‘Let them try’.
(If it is workable to jam the surveillance systems with EM weapons that would be a way)
And Netanyahu got the casus belli he desired.
There is an understanding among the western elites.
No need to know everything to communicate in that collective.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 4 2023 14:29 utc | 211
That’s a very interesting angle, you my be right -no need to know if things work out your way. The perfidy of the US does not surprise me in the least . However, if that was their plan I think they miscalculated the ROW’s reaction to the umm..genocide, sorry Israeli counter offensive.
Anyways, the incompetence angle it was just my best guess- my more intelligent wife chronically admonishes me: “You know just enough to be dangerous”.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 4 2023 16:07 utc | 235

RE: Arch Bungle | Dec 4 2023 15:54 utc | 232
Agreed. Israel already getting their butts kicked North, South & West… the economy is a daily disaster, their random chaotic bombing campaigns are doing nothing but killing civilians. They Israeli/US government spouting nothing but nonsense about “their plans” and BS about on-the-ground realities.
Even today they’re starting to sound off the “Mission Accomplished” mantras, in order to get themselves the hell outta there.
Just saying, outside of the bloodbath of civilians, militarily they’re accomplishing zilch. So far Hamas & Jihad there, with Hezbollah tosses missiles here and there, and Houthis in their limited involvement are already pushing Israel to find an out.
Think it’s pretty clear, at least to me, either war significantly widens, then I absolutely agree that the cell call ups in Jordan and Egypt, frankly everywhere, will abound.
The pressure for Israel to swiftly cease within the next 2 weeks will be immense. For now, they just look like the half wit maniacal disorganized chicken shit military they always have been when actually facing armed men.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 4 2023 16:17 utc | 237

children on floor getting medical treatment
https://twitter.com/i/status/1731434718904660010

Posted by: ld | Dec 4 2023 16:21 utc | 239

*** Re canuck (#166): “ Before the Magna Carat the serfs could hunt in the ‘commons’, the King’s land. After the Magna Carta if the serfs hunted in the King’s land they would be hung.”
And who did that benefit? Certainly not the barons who forced the tyrant John to sign Magna Carta. A red herring at best regarding the effects of Magna Carta.
Posted by: Ciaran | Dec 4 2023 13:29 utc | 199 ***
Preventing the peasants from supplementing their diet via (legal) hunting would force them to be even more subservient to the Barons.
As for John being a “tyrant” — was that because he tried to raise more tax?
If so, then it is actually King Richard who should be demonised.
He caused the problem.
It wasn’t John who had emptied the treasury to fund himself mincing off to the Crusades.
In any case, the still revered (a lasting triumph of spin-doctors over reality) Richard “the Lion-heart” thoroughly detested England and would have much preferred to misrule it from France.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2023 16:31 utc | 241

DunGroanin | Dec 4 2023 14:18 utc | 207
*** If we could un-invent lawyers would he have more justice on the world?***
At least we might be spared the pretentious pimps in parliament getting the media (and that includes non-establishment media) to call them “lawmakers”.
These bastards are meant to *represent* the public, not be law-imposing proxies for powerful (and mostly unaccountable) vested interests who actually dictate behind an ever shoddier facade of “democracy”.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2023 16:56 utc | 243

@230 scorpion
Indeed, my friend, it is precisely where are immediate needs are met in clothing, food, shelter, that the real trouble begins in the interpersonal through mimetic desire.
Man is the only animal who does not know what to desire. Iow, he is not an animal.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 4 2023 17:17 utc | 245

Now the Israelis are trying to smear Hamas with accusations of raping the hostages.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 4 2023 17:27 utc | 247

Off Topic hijacking this thread …worse than the trolls
amuse and impress yourselves your knowledge

Posted by: ld | Dec 4 2023 17:40 utc | 249

DunGroanin | Dec 4 2023 14:18 utc | 207
*** If we could un-invent lawyers would he have more justice on the world?***
Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2023 16:56 utc | 243
We need lawyers because our legal system and conception of justice has become a collection of sophistries.
The search for justice has therefore become a search for the best sophist and sophistry.
Simple laws rigidly enforced are better than complex laws fluidly interpreted.
Were every layman able to comprehend the whole of the law there would be no need for lawyers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 4 2023 17:45 utc | 251

THE BLOODY FOUNDING OF “ISRAEL” !
https://nitter.net/PandemicTruther/status/1712407670991270344#m
The background leading up to the desperate Hamas Operation/
Israel’s final solution for the Palestinians.
In the 10 years before Israel was created, from 1937 to 1947, Israel launched at least 50 major terrorist attacks, blowing up 814 civilian aircrafts, two trains, one ship, and razing 385 Arab villages to the ground.
Note that the above are only “major” terrorist attacks.
Between 1947 and 1949, Israel attacked major Palestinian cities, destroying some 530 villages and killing some 15,000 Palestinians in a series of mass atrocities, including dozens of massacres.
On April 9, 1948, Zionist forces carried out one of the most notorious massacres of the war in the village of Deir Yassin, on the western outskirts of Jerusalem, where more than 110 men, women, and children were killed by the Zionist militia of the Irgun and Stern Gang.
During this period, 750.000 Palestinians were driven from their homes and became refugees in their own ancestral land.
Refugees have the right under international law to return to their displaced homes and to recover their property. So Israel’s current occupation of Israel is illegal.
On December 11, 1947, Israeli terrorists threw bombs into a bus full of Arabs from a truck, killing six Arab civilians on the spot and injuring more than 30 people.
This kind of terrorist act was carried out on a daily basis by Israeli terrorists at that time, “insignificant” trivial incidents randomly picked out from historical records.
Bombing Arab buses was quite casual. Only bombing planes, trains and ships can be called “Big Terrorist Attack”. Israel is the father of modern terrorism. Later, all terrorists were inspired by examples set by Israelis.
With this forceful means of expressing “protest”, Israel’s demand for statehood was finally met by the United Nations, and the Israel state was successfully established in 1948. It was assumed that Israelis would stop such terrorist attacks once they are given a state.
Before the founding of the Israel state, 14 passenger planes were bombed, but those were all planes parked at the airport, so not much of a challenge for the Israelis.
The first terrorist attack in human history to hijack a civilian airliner was invented by Israel.
In December 1954, Israeli terrorists hijacked a civilian airliner in Syria and this form of terrorism was born. However due to the systematic suppression of unsavoury terrorist acts carried out by Israel, these acts are now associated with Islamists.
Only after strong condemnation from the international community and having won several Middle East wars with the support of the United States and having gained numerous advantages (US military aid, hundreds of billions of USD worth’s compensation from Germany) did Israel begin to become more “respectable” and endeavored to cultivate its image.
In order to quell the terrorist attacks launched by Israel in the Middle East, the United Nations announced the partition plan for Palestine and Israel, allowing Palestine and Israel to establish separate states.
According to the 1947 United Nations resolution, the Israelis, who constitute the minority, were allocated 57% of the most fertile, the most strategic part (coast etc) of the land in Palestine.
Whereas the Palestinians, who constitute the majority, were allocated 43% of the poorest part of the land of Palestine. One can only say that the Israeli lobby combined with Israeli terrorism was powerful and effective.
This land distribution plan was already very unfair, but the Israelis were not satisfied. Over the years, they have invaded almost the whole Palestine step by step through encroachment.
As you can see on the maps of Israeli expansion between 1946-2000, it’s spreading.
Now almost the entire Palestinian area.
How have the Israelis managed to grab more than 90% of Palestinian land in the past half century?
Israel has massacred countless Palestinian civilians over the years. Violent beatings and killings are commonplace, and there have been many cases of openly shooting Palestinian women and children on the streets.
Protected by western governments and media, Israelis gained a moral pass to mass killings with perfect impunity.
This habit of killing Palestinians culminated in the killing orgy of the Beirut Massacre in September 1982.
The Israeli army blocked the Beirut refugee camp and carried out a horrific massacre that lasted 40 hours. A large number of women were raped and executed, and many boys were castrated and executed.
These atrocities triggered strong protests in many countries around the world.
On December 16, 1982, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution, condemning the massacre and characterized it as ethnic cleansing.
Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon claimed responsibility for the massacre and resigned from his post.
Thanks to Israelis’ twisted values, Sharon became a national hero because of this massacre, and was elected as Prime Minister of Israel in 2001.
So Israel had a mass murderer as their prime minister and are proud of it.
Today Israeli settlements are whitewashed and beautified into these pastoral outposts in the desert.
In reality, they are Israeli invasion strongholds, all of which were force taken from the Palestinians by armed troops without spending a penny, and then retired soldiers were allowed to live in them as a reward for their services…

Posted by: MD | Dec 4 2023 18:23 utc | 253

Remarkable how many people waiting at a bus stop were armed with automatic weapons

Posted by: Exile | Dec 4 2023 19:07 utc | 255

FYI. Pakistan Government refused to get involved in the Saudi carnage. So what you assert is incorrect. But Egyptians were there.
Posted by: sal | Dec 4 2023 14:51 utc | 221
Perhaps. I get confused between the Bangladeshi and Pakistani soldiers I see streaming in and out of the airports in the middle east on my trips there …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 4 2023 18:44 utc | 254
You really believe that? Foreign soldiers in ME civilian airports? You know better. Soldiers are flown to bases. Please do not malign Pakistanis or Bangladeshis because they never participated in the Yemen carnage..

Posted by: sal | Dec 4 2023 20:14 utc | 257

This is true. Did you hear that Jeffrey Pyatt (of Maidan fame) has said that the US would get Russia’s natural resources by 2030? Straight from the horse’s mouth (or some other part).
And: I also overheard some Zionists talking and saying Israel got a bad deal because it did not get any oil.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Dec 4 2023 10:43 utc | 165
No I had not heard that. But it sounds like something he would say…

Posted by: pq | Dec 4 2023 21:10 utc | 259

It seems now like a majority of Israelis and their government are locked in a mass hysteria, unable to be talked down from wanton destruction, and inevitable self-destruction from eventual response. This would be the point where a true friends would intervene, not enable. With so many politicians in The West bought or coerced as dullard sycophants such past lobbying behavior leaves no braking mechanism now. It’s a perfect storm of a whilrwind judgment sown by one’s own hand.
The ceasefire opportunity was squandered. They are lost, gone rabid. It is up to us the people to press our governments to stop this…

Posted by: titmouse | Dec 4 2023 22:18 utc | 261

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-law-review-gaza-israel-genocide/
Academic freedoms are surpressed.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 4 2023 22:30 utc | 263

smear Hamas with accusations of raping the hostages.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 4 2023 17:27 utc | 247
No wonder they seemed to wave so pleasantly to their captors during the exchanges …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 4 2023 17:38 utc | 248
Explains why they only wanted the female hostages, which were still useful alive for smearing purposes. The male hostages are more valuable dead, their deaths can be blamed on Hamas and will motivate Israeli soldiers not to surrender like Gilad Shalit did and become yet more hostages.
Like the anti-migrant movement in Germany, they know that it is a crime that doesn’t need to be proven with evidence, and takes advantage of pre existing bias.
Just heard Sheryl Sandberg of Facebook fame has just been appointed Israel’s Crusader Against Sexual Violence.
Presumably she’ll be ignoring fellow Zionists Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Woody Allen, Steve “Wynn” Weinberg, Roman Polanski, along with most of the Me Too accused, …

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 4 2023 22:40 utc | 265

I believe that the UAE Inc. has annexed (as in stolen ) Socotra and the former crown colony of Aden, with its port as spoils of war. I believe that its mercenaries are in the Hadramhaut as well.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 4 2023 22:28 utc | 262
That is what I understand too. AnsarAllah has the mountains and the N. coast. I haven’t been reading Al Masirah for a while, other wars …
I always thought they would fail to eject the Yemenis from those mountains. Somewhat like with the Pashtun, but the Yemenis are more civilized, been there a long time, a crossroads since forever. The mountains are where the water is, most of it.
I hear that the IDF and British are on Socotra too. Everybody wants to have a place on the Horn of Africa.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 4 2023 22:44 utc | 267

In order to destroy Hamas, a stated goal, Israel is now carpet bombing southern Gaza, according to reports.
Its main sponsor, however, has this to say:
The US said Monday it had seen some improvement by Israel in narrowing targets in its Gaza offensive, issuing a guarded approval, if Israel were to accelerate its offensive into southern Gaza.
State Department spokesman Matthew Miller added that “the numbers of displaced persons will hopefully be lower in southern Gaza than it was in the north”.
“We’ve seen a much more targeted request for evacuations” than in the earlier campaign in the north, Miller, added, ”so that is an improvement on what’s happened before.”
Miller said that the US was urging Israel to take additional steps to protect civilians, but said that civilian casualties were “sadly true in all wars”.
Boths from: https://www.middleeasteye.net/

Posted by: JB | Dec 4 2023 22:53 utc | 269

“There is growing concensus that the Democratic Party and Biden’s support of Israel and their genocide of the Palestinians will cost the dems the 2024 election.”
Posted by: Willow | Dec 4 2023 21:59 utc | 260
They simply don’t care it is a one party nation state. This is a tactic they have used very successfully since the 70’s. That the liberals and the right have used to destroy the left.
Scholz the liberal fuck. Has destroyed the left in Germany for at least 2 generations.
The strategy as you can see just keeps moving the voters to the right. Where fake right wing populists are standing waiting with their arms open to shear the flock.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 5 2023 0:34 utc | 271

Posted by: Willow | Dec 4 2023 21:59 utc | 260
Starmer by the time he is finished will keep Labour out of power in the UK for 3 or 4 elections minimum.
They are all one party nation states. As Wolfgang Schäuble told Yanis Varoufakis to his face behind closed doors. Elections don’t change policy.
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=39403

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 5 2023 0:45 utc | 273

re: laguerre | Dec 4 2023 15:42 utc | 228
You wrote: “Everything we’ve seen so far is a consequence of the massive air bombardment, nothing more.”
True, but the massive air bombardment has made Northern Gaza uninhabitable and driven 1.7 million Palestinians into Southern Gaza, which is now coming under what will be a similar bombardment. The Israeli plan has always been ethnic cleansing and I don’t see that being interrupted, do you?
Hamas may be undefeated, but where will the Palestinian people go once the rest of Gaza is made uninhabitable?

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 5 2023 2:48 utc | 275

Here is the video you’ve waited for your whole life… oh sorry, it just got removed from YouTube.
Luckily, it was just posted on Rumble…. enjoy
https://rumble.com/v3zmtnm-viva-palestine.html

Posted by: Rabbi McGoyim | Dec 5 2023 2:58 utc | 277

Hamas may be undefeated, but where will the Palestinian people go once the rest of Gaza is made uninhabitable?
Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 5 2023 2:48 utc | 277
It’s not like they’ll be allowed to leave.
Do you think it’s any better in the Sinai desert?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 3:09 utc | 279

re:Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 3:09 utc | 281
you say “It’s not like they’ll be allowed to leave.”
So what happens to 2.2 million people in the middle of a desert with no food, water, electricity, medical care, housing, etc. etc.?
My point was that it doesn’t matter if Hamas has not been defeated, the Palestinian people are going to perish in ever increasing numbers unless someone comes to their aid.

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 5 2023 3:16 utc | 281

Talking about a naval task-force for the strait.
Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 5 2023 0:52 utc | 276
This would be the perfect opportunity for Russia to avenge the Moskva …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 3:24 utc | 283

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – O Children

Posted by: Rick Happ | Dec 5 2023 3:45 utc | 285

Historian Rashid Khalidi, author of The Hundreds’ Year War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917- 2017, is interviewed by Chris Hedges “for a look into this essential history, and how it can help us frame Israel’s present war on Gaza.”
Excerpt:

Chris Hedges:  Let’s talk about the 1936-1939 Arab revolt. I didn’t understand until I read your book how bloody it was. The British, if I remember correctly, sent in 100,000 troops. They armed Jewish militias. But this came, of course, after decades of essentially nonviolent tactics that had failed.
Rashid Khalidi:  The spark for this is a growing militancy among young Palestinians, among middle-class Palestinians, among Palestinians who see the extraordinary rise in Jewish immigration. In 1935, 60,000 plus new immigrants arrived in Palestine, which was larger than the entire Jewish population of the country in 1917. And there are articles in the paper saying, at this rate, we’re going to become strangers in our own country. So in response to the ineffectual leadership of the Palestinian elites that dominated the national movement, and in response to this complete unwillingness of the British to respond to Palestinian demands, a general strike broke out in 1936, which is a grassroots effort. The leadership had nothing to do with it. The traditional elite leaders are taken by surprise. The general strike went on for six months, it’s ended with the intervention of the Arab governments which were afraid that this would lead to instability and were trying to do the bidding of their British masters, so the king of Egypt, the king of Iraq and so forth, intervene.
The general strike ends and the British send out a Commission of Inquiry which decides to partition Palestine and give a chunk of it over to a Jewish state from which are to be transferred – The term is “transferred” i.e., expelled – The Arab population. Even in that tiny part of Palestine, there wasn’t a Jewish majority. And the rest of which is to be given to Britain’s client, King Abdullah. The Palestinians reject this. They want self-determination for themselves as the overwhelming majority of the country in the entirety of their country. And what the British are offering them is an insult. So what starts as a general strike and unrest in the countryside turns into a general armed revolt. The British lost control of parts of much of the countryside and they briefly lost control of several cities. They were unable to bring in reinforcements in 1938 because of crises in Europe, the need to tie down British troops in Europe, and because they were afraid to send Indian troops because they were not sure of their loyalty. Because so many Indians are exercised about British repression in Palestine.
So the revolt expanded and by 1938, the British were in a desperate situation. They begin to arm and train auxiliaries from the Zionist militias whom they train in savage, British counterinsurgency tactics: Shooting prisoners, blowing up houses over people’s heads, the large detention camps, and so forth, all of which are the modus operandi of the Israeli army going forward. The people who became the first generals in the Israeli army; Moshe Dayan, Yigal Allon, and Yitzhak Sadeh, were trained by these British counterinsurgency experts in the late 1930s to help the British put down this revolt. Finally, after the crisis in Europe is temporarily over with the Munich Agreement, the British have reserves that are freed and they flood Palestine with troops and the RAF, and they bomb and destroy their way to crushing the Palestinian revolt. In the course of this, something like 14 to 17% of the adult male Palestinian population are either killed, wounded, imprisoned, or exiled.
So the revolt is crushed, the Palestinians are broken, and thousands of weapons are confiscated. Dozens and dozens of people are summarily executed, many more are shot in the course of operations after being taken prisoner, and the Palestinians really suffer enormously. Their leadership is exiled going into the 1940s in fact, from the effects of the repression by the British of this revolt.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/12/04/chris-hedges-report-the-war-on-palestine-has-gone-on-for-over-100-years/
~~

Posted by: Suzan | Dec 5 2023 4:37 utc | 287

‘Currently, thousands of anti-Zionist and anti-Israeli Torah Jews have gathered for the Satmar Rebbe to oppose the existence of Israel.’
https://t.me/two_majors/1586
So for the people who still don’t understand Zionism ≠ Judaism
These Jews who are anti the illegal Apartheid Entity Zion are the types who have been long subjected to actual anti Judaism because most of them are the ‘wrong type’ for the Zionist ethnography. They are the ones who are subjected to stereotypical monstering by our Collective Wasteral imperial masters. The real old slave owners and traders and money owners, who look upon such Hasidics as not ‘Aryan’ enough and hence disposable. Many were so deposed in the Holocaust to birth the Zionist Entity that would rule the world finally. They would gladly burn the rest of them to have ‘pure’ Zionists.
That is the true unipolar ancient dream, shrivelling and turning to dust daily in the Levant, the borderlands of the steppes, the Gulf and the 5+1 eyed Empire.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 5 2023 4:59 utc | 289

While the Houthi work to de-carbonize the West during COP 28, Hezbollah works on “greening the commons” blowing Zionist deforrestation systems to Sheol:

23:40 Hezbollah statement: The vehicles, engaged in igniting the woods opposite the Ramya site, were directly impacted by guided missiles, leading to their ignition and causing casualties among their crew, with fatalities and injuries reported

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 5:15 utc | 291

fyi, the plot thickens
partial listing. go to twitter for the complete BIG SUMMARY
https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1731447791757439163
Resistance operations today against US-israeli forces:
🇾🇪 Yemen:
Targeted 2 Israeli ships in the Bab el-Mandeb Strait using an anti-ship missile & drone.
🇵🇸 Hamas:
60 IOF soldiers targeted by explosives, east of Juhor al-Dik, causing significant casualties.
Luring & blowing up a tunnel entrance, causing for casualties among a group of IOF soldiers east of Beit Lahia.
Detonation of a booby-trapped tunnel with a Zionist infantry force inside of it, in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood, causing injuries, followed by targeting rescue forces with mortars.
Targeting of 6 Israeli tanks in various axes with Yasin 105.
Targeting of 5 IOF military vehicles east of Deir al-Balah, confirming the complete destruction of 3 & D-9 armoured bulldozer & 1 APC.
🇵🇸 Al-Quds Brigades:
Intense clashes with an IOF infantry force in northeast of Khan Yunis.
Detonation of a “Thaqib” high-explosive bomb on a Zionist tank infiltrating near the Hajjaj Mosque in the Maghraqa area.
Shelling of IOF soldiers & army vehicles infiltrating.
Shelling an IOF special force inside a building in Beit Hanoun with mortars, with casualties.
🇵🇸 Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades:
Targeting Namer army vehicles with anti-armor shells and engaging in fierce clashes, in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood.
🟡| 🇱🇧 Hezbollah:
Targeting a military vehicle in the Beit Hillel base with ATGMs, resulting in 11 israeli casualties.
Targeting positions in Zabdin, and the Ruwassat al-Alam area in the occupied Shebaa Farms.
Targeting enemy concentrations east of Hanita
🇮🇶 Islamic Resistance in Iraq:
Targeting the US base at Erbil Airport with a suicide drone.
Targeting the US “Kharab al-Jeer” base, northeast of Syria, with a large rocket barrage.
Targeting the US base in the Green Village in the Syrian depth with a suicide drone.
Targeting the US Ain al-Assad base, west of Iraq with a suicide drone.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 5 2023 5:29 utc | 293

Question:
Now that all the hospitals in Gaza have been destroyed are IDF accusations of HAMAS operating from hospitals still meaningful?
Given that the IDF themselves are documented as using hospitals as battlegrounds, doesn’t the accusation therefore swing around to them and with concrete proof this time?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 6:08 utc | 295

60 IOF soldiers targeted by explosives, east of Juhor al-Dik, causing significant casualties.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 5 2023 5:29 utc | 293
I’d really love to know how many of these were brown and black CON-verts to Joodaism allowed citizenship on condition of service to their Ashkenazi masters.
Perhaps there are in fact two genocides going on here?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2023 6:13 utc | 297

A really excellent powerful interview @ Suzan | Dec 5 2023 4:37 utc | 287
Covers some very important historical issues clearly and simply. with video included. Worth sharing to people who may not know the background and the consistency of Zionist duplicity and intentional crimes and dis-empowerment of the Palestinians with British and US backing imo.
The 100 year war on Palestine w/Rashid Khalidi

Rashid Khalidi: Right. These trends in Israeli society include not just Jewish supremacy on the right, but a desire since the beginning to carry out demographic transformations of the country. That was essential. You can’t create a Jewish state in a majority Arab country without bringing in a larger Jewish population and decreasing the Arab population. It’s the logic of a Jewish state in an overwhelmingly Arab country, up until 1948. And what you see today under this government that came into office early this year, elected in December of last year, and came into power after coalition negotiations early in 2023, has been an accelerated drive for the colonization of the West Bank and Arab East Jerusalem, and since this war began on October 6, a desire to as much as possible push Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip. This was seen as an opportunity. The atrocities that were perpetrated at the beginning of this attack by the attackers or by the people who came in behind the attackers gave the Israeli right an opportunity to carry out another phase of ethnic cleansing.
Now, we don’t only know this from their statements, we know this from the fact that American diplomacy played, in my view, a disgraceful role in trying to convince both the Egyptian and the Jordanian governments to take in populations that Israel would displace, would kick out of the Gaza Strip, and possibly also the West Bank. We know this not only from the angry rejections by the Egyptian government, the Jordanian government, the Saudi government, and every other Arab government of these ideas, and from the retractions by the Biden administration as soon as they saw that angry reaction; We know that from the same funding request that the Office of Management and Budget put before Congress on October 20 for $14 billion for Israel. Buried in that on page 40 is a request for support for migration, including people leaving the Gaza Strip.
There are various clauses that show that the US government was party to an Israeli plan to expel populations from the Gaza Strip. As everybody in the Arab world knows, and everybody in the world should know, when Israel expels Palestinians from Palestine, they never are allowed to return. The Egyptian and the Jordanian governments understood this perfectly and they were not going to go along with this. They treated Blinken with the contempt that he deserved when he tried to peddle this idea to them and the United States eventually retreated from that and the President has repeatedly said now since then, oh, we will not accept the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza.
The US government was privy to, party to, and complicit in, an Israeli plan to do that in the first week or so of this war, as is evidenced by the budget request put before Congress on October 20. You can go to page 40 of it, and have a look. It’s unequivocal. The US was asking for money for operations outside of Gaza and anybody kicked out of Palestine ever by Israeli ethnic cleansing is not allowed to return. This is not, in other words, a temporary measure, nor was it meant by Israel to be a temporary measure. You can read what the Israeli Intelligence Ministry said. You can read what various Israeli ministers have said. The intention was to ethnically cleanse as much as possible of the Gazan population. Since then, those ambitions have been reduced because the Arab governments wouldn’t go along and the US pulled back. And now what seems to be intended is to squeeze the population of the Gaza Strip into a smaller and smaller part of that very tiny 20-mile-long area.
Chris Hedges: Well, that creates a humanitarian crisis; …………
https://scheerpost.com/2023/12/04/chris-hedges-report-the-war-on-palestine-has-gone-on-for-over-100-years/

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 5 2023 8:39 utc | 299