For some, this will unfortunately not be a merry one.
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‘If Jesus was born today, he’d be born under the rubble’: Bethlehem set for forlorn Christmas
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December 24, 2023
Merry X-mas
For some, this will unfortunately not be a merry one. Still, all good to them and their families. ![]() bigger ‘If Jesus was born today, he’d be born under the rubble’: Bethlehem set for forlorn Christmas May peace be with you.
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Hard to celebrate the birth of Jesus while his cousins are buried under the rubble of Gaza. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 24 2023 14:41 utc | 1 ard to celebrate the birth of Jesus while his cousins are buried under the rubble of Gaza. it is very difficult to find an inner peace whlist watching for example such events in Palestine .. world disasters….famines …all suffering from malnutrition and lack of water and health services .. poverty.. injustice… unnecessary harms and suffering. Posted by: Jo | Dec 24 2023 15:00 utc | 3 One of the things I greatly appreciate about b and the barflies is that they don’t save their moral outrage for the holidays, and they don’t put it on hold then, either. Posted by: Honzo | Dec 24 2023 15:15 utc | 4 I have a red checkered qaffiya hanging in my third-floor front window, though not very visible from the street. Maybe this is just some lame virtue signalling, on the other hand, inside my grief for the Palestinians gnaws away at me. My best to b and everyone who frequents his superb blog. Posted by: Quentin | Dec 24 2023 15:19 utc | 5 Happy holiday season to all the people of goodwill. Posted by: W | Dec 24 2023 15:51 utc | 6 Merry CHristmas, enjoy the time with family and some time off.. thank you for all your efforts going back all the way to ‘going to tehran!!’.. Posted by: Rd | Dec 24 2023 15:52 utc | 7 we had a procession here last week honoring our Lady Tonantzin the Virgin of Guadalupe, from a park winding thru the (mainly Mexican) neighborhoods and to a catholic church. There is a melding of native and christian beliefs in many indigenous communities. It provided a degree of hope to all who participated. May peace be with b and readers here, may there be peace in occupied Palestine. Posted by: Osori | Dec 24 2023 16:08 utc | 8 B. “Danke sehr” for all your fine work by enabling this fine site, where truth is “nicht verboten”. Many come here to share insights and opinions. It is one of those glowing centers of light, so desperately needed in this time of political and economic insanity, concocted by the few against the many. Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 24 2023 16:11 utc | 9 Merry Christmas to All…
I read Le Grand Meaulnes in French at age seventeen living in a chateau in the Loir et Cher (my refuge from English public school!). It left a lasting mood impression though I cannot recall a single detail of either plot or characters therein. The mood was indeed quintessence of nostalgia. Meanwhile, many aspects of European culture live on, as the lovely scenes captured on this linked thread vividly attest: merry christmas b and all the gentle and wise posters at moa!! Posted by: james | Dec 24 2023 16:21 utc | 11 Best Wishes to All Posted by: ld | Dec 24 2023 16:27 utc | 12 Osori. My family used to spend Christmas in Mexico every few years, it is the only place I have ever really enjoyed the holiday, It is without commercialism and seems to be taken for what is is rather then what the shopping centers want you to think. This year my family is meeting in a one room cabin, my girls asked that our gifts be donations to Palestine. We are trying to figure that out tonight as no one can get aid in right now. We will start with a law group in NY that is taking on clients who have been attacked in some way for supporting Palestine. Posted by: Susan | Dec 24 2023 16:32 utc | 13 Frohe Weihnachten! Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 24 2023 16:42 utc | 14 If Jesus was born today, there would be no demonic Islam and no Palestinians. Jews would have remained and lived uninterrupted for the last 2,000 years in land that God of Israel promised them. Posted by: Rivers | Dec 24 2023 16:51 utc | 16 Merry Christmas, Bernhardt. Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 24 2023 16:52 utc | 17 “If theere ever was a jesus he’d be turning in his grave” Posted by: Apollyon | Dec 24 2023 16:53 utc | 18 Scorpion…. Posted by: pyrrhus | Dec 24 2023 16:57 utc | 19 Peace to all, even the wicked may God soften their hearts and help them find compassion for their fellow man. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 24 2023 17:05 utc | 21 Susan number 16 Posted by: Osori | Dec 24 2023 17:08 utc | 22 Merry Christmas, though I’m suspicious about a happy new year, each new one seems to outdo the last… Posted by: Newbie | Dec 24 2023 17:11 utc | 23 Scorpion…. Wishing you all a peaceful holiday and a good Christmas. Posted by: Pq | Dec 24 2023 17:34 utc | 26 Thanks b. Posted by: john | Dec 24 2023 17:44 utc | 28 A modern day nativity would have three wise men held up at the Gilo checkpoint and the myrrh confiscated. Posted by: robin | Dec 24 2023 17:57 utc | 29 Happy Christmas b, profit from the love and blessings all around while we still have them, in case they slip through our fingers in the future. Many wishes to all barflies i know over the years , and the new ones which I still learn to know, have all Merry Christmas, and a better New year than this wretched 2023. Posted by: fanto | Dec 24 2023 18:32 utc | 32 Christmas tidings to b. and the barflies. Posted by: DakotaRog | Dec 24 2023 18:40 utc | 33 My Christmas wish is that commentators on the Ukrainian war, ( not b, but you know who you are), stop referring to the Ukrainian armed forces as “meat”; it is dehumanising and deeply insulting. It belongs in the same category as Israelis referring to Palestinians as “cockroaches “. Posted by: CitizenSmith | Dec 24 2023 18:49 utc | 34 Thank you for the wish for peace, b. May peace be with you also! Merry Christmas, such as it is, to you and to all the barflies. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 24 2023 18:56 utc | 35 Merry Christmas to all the folks at the bar from the Ozarks. Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Dec 24 2023 19:12 utc | 36 Right back at ya… Posted by: Echo Chamber | Dec 24 2023 19:32 utc | 37 Wishing all regular MoA barflies and readers a safe and holy Christmas in 2023. Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 24 2023 19:51 utc | 38 Sorry for the repost, but got the wrong thread 9n the first. Posted by: dask | Dec 24 2023 19:54 utc | 39 Merry/Happy Christmas to our wise and gracious host and to all the barflies I have learned so much from these last two years. The world is a mess for sure, but I also see a lot of suffering right in front of my eyes,in my little corner of America, including friends and family members who are struggling. So please say a prayer for those of us living in the belly of the Beast, we need them too. Posted by: KMRIA | Dec 24 2023 20:03 utc | 40 Peace be with you B. To all the barflies, Peace be with you. Posted by: annie | Dec 24 2023 20:03 utc | 41 Ozark Christmas Card for the barflies: https://folkpotpourri.com/christmas-tree-in-the-ozark-woods/ Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Dec 24 2023 20:09 utc | 42 There was apparently an interesting interview with Arestovich (posted on Slavyangrad) wherein he states that the Ukrainians should realize that all the killing and dying is getting them no where and they should settle their differences and collaborate to make lawsuit against the west for what has been caused in Ukraine. What a perfect wish for the this holiday season. I wish for us all some wisdom and more patience and understanding (empathy). Posted by: jared | Dec 24 2023 20:13 utc | 43 The US public in particular needs to be made aware that the Palestinian Christian community exists. How about a “Help Christians in Palestine” infomercial like you see all the time late night?… Posted by: Inkan1969 | Dec 24 2023 20:36 utc | 44 Posted by: canuck | Dec 24 2023 14:48 utc | 2 Posted by: Stephane | Dec 24 2023 21:59 utc | 45 …..and a Merry Christmas to all barflies….. ya’ll keep the place hoppin’ Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 24 2023 23:24 utc | 46 Imagine lunatics taking over your country and changing the date you traditionally celebrate Christmas. Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Dec 24 2023 23:29 utc | 47 Gaza is the Ghost of Christmas Present, appropriately modeled by a Bethlehem church as Jesus in the rubble, this terrible year. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 24 2023 23:38 utc | 48 It was an Israeli inn Posted by: juliania | Dec 24 2023 23:54 utc | 49 @60 Juliania Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Dec 25 2023 0:19 utc | 50 Season’s greetings to b and to all who strive for peace and justice. Posted by: Engineer-John | Dec 25 2023 0:45 utc | 51 The hamartia of the tragedy of our race is the Fall. The catharsis is the Crucifixion. As we celebrate the First Advent of our Lord, the Infinite as the Infant, and embrace the joy of that promise fulfilled; so let us have hope in His Second Advent in which all things in Him will be made New. Until then, we must live in the tension of a fallen creation with the attendant evils. Let us recognize them and call them out so that Truth, Beauty and Goodness can shine through. Merry Christmas to all of the barflies!!! Posted by: Robert Peters | Dec 25 2023 1:33 utc | 52 Merry Unorthodox Christmas! Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 25 2023 1:56 utc | 53
You murdering filth simply cannot help yourselves can you? Celebrate the death of children all you like. It will not bring the victory you seek. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 25 2023 3:04 utc | 54 “A Comment on This Christmas Eve & Day” and hope that this will be the final Christmas that occurs during wartime and Genocide. When the Guardian and B are one the same Meme you should know something is wrong! Posted by: Antonym | Dec 25 2023 3:11 utc | 56 Happy holidays Bernhard and fellow barflies! Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 25 2023 3:40 utc | 57 A lesbian nativity scene in in the province of Avellino, Italy, with “tens-of-thousands” protesting to the Vatican as RT reports. IMO, the myth is that Mary is a virgin who was somehow impregnated implying that the God responsible must be male. But does that actually hold since God supposedly created all and everything including the various genders Nature displays and thus could easily impregnate most anything it desired. The upshot is Mary didn’t even need Joseph and could easily have had a woman partner. But then I’m not religious, so I’m open to that sort of myth. I liked George Lucas’s idea that the body itself generated Shmi’s pregnancy with Nature itself being Force/God. How many virgin birth myths preceded that ascribed to Mary and Joseph, and in how many different cultures? „If Jesus was born today …” Who is Jesus? Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Dec 25 2023 4:10 utc | 59 From karlof’s link above I somehow ended up at an earlier article https://karlof1.substack.com/p/svr-chief-sergey-naryshkin-2024-is, a speech by Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service Chief Sergei Naryshkin. I confess I didn’t read the article when karlof published it because of the ghastly cut of the man’s suit. Off the rack in a clearance bin of a discount store like Feilene’s Basement in Boston.
His vocabulary has to be picked through. ‘Globalists’ are US elites bent on totalitarianism arrayed against a ‘realist’ global coalition of civilization states. But what about the globalist cabal working to supersede nation states and establish a totalitarian new world order? Is he saying the WEF/WHO/UN stuff is all an American-only Hegemonic agenda which their multipolarist group is against? So how come BRICS Declarations reference WEF and UN agreements like Agenda 2030 etc? Latest news out of Gaza reports Israel just massacred seventy some civilians in a refugee camp by bombing on Christmas Eve. Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Dec 25 2023 4:56 utc | 61 How many virgin birth myths preceded that ascribed to Mary and Joseph, and in how many different cultures? Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 25 2023 5:12 utc | 62 To say Merry Xmas is a bridge too far for me, it’s been a tough year. So wishing all a more peaceful Xmas and a brighter new year ahead.
Take good care of yourselves and be close to your loved ones. You never know when suddenly they might be taken from you without warning. Peace Unto You 🙁 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 25 2023 5:30 utc | 63 A big thank you and season’s greetings to b, and to all the barflies for the location, and veritable banquet of ideas and thought that we find here. Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 25 2023 5:37 utc | 64 Barkeep, Posted by: Exile | Dec 25 2023 5:45 utc | 65 I confess I didn’t read the article when karlof published it because of the ghastly cut of the man’s suit. Off the rack in a clearance bin of a discount store like Feilene’s Basement in Boston. Posted by: Exile | Dec 25 2023 5:50 utc | 66
It’s not often one reads a clarion call to genocide a few billion innocents in a Marry Christmas thread. Posted by: Exile | Dec 25 2023 5:53 utc | 67 @Exile 85 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 25 2023 6:41 utc | 68 Thank you b, and for keeping this space open for discussion. Merry Christmas to you and all barflies Posted by: tumbril | Dec 25 2023 9:14 utc | 70 I have kept my promise and not wished a ‘merry’ Xmas to anyone – well the elderly bedridden neighbour aside who I shall go visit shortly – so forgive me for not wishing the barflies anything merry either. Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 25 2023 10:51 utc | 71 For the “Virgin Birth”..Maybe born under the sign of Virgo, as the Heavens was the calendar of the time. Posted by: heavymetal101 | Dec 25 2023 11:52 utc | 72 This year it’s Kaffyehs for presents to my friends, you get them in rainbow tie dye colors now, allowing you to p… off anyone who matters: Nazis, Jews, Russians, Homophobes, Germans, MAGAs, Ukries Posted by: SOS | Dec 25 2023 12:57 utc | 73 Posted by: canuck | Dec 24 2023 14:48 utc | 2 A happy christmas season to all! Posted by: persiflo | Dec 25 2023 13:08 utc | 75 Fröhliche Weihnachten Posted by: librul | Dec 25 2023 13:30 utc | 76 Holiday Greetings and Best Wishes to b and all readers and commenters here. It is very soothing to know there are compassionate, knowledgeable peoples in this world. I thank you for enlightening me, and the comfort to my soul. Posted by: SharBear | Dec 25 2023 13:35 utc | 77 This Christmas Day, it is difficult to ignore the sheer evil, satanic nature of western regimes, principally the Zionist Regime, and its enablers in the US and EU. Posted by: anon | Dec 25 2023 15:09 utc | 79 Written on Christmas Day by the Christian prisoner, Citizen Louis Capet, formerly King Louis XVI of France:
https://www.andrewcusack.com/2006/the-last-will-and-testament-of-louis-xvi/ “I exhort my son, should he have the misfortune of becoming king,..” Happy Holdiays to all > original, old-time, MoA posters – everyone else of course. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 25 2023 17:44 utc | 83 Thankyou to all. Posted by: Dfnslblty | Dec 25 2023 17:47 utc | 84 Every year since 1949, the Wall Street Journal re-publishes this piece. Think of it as the Historical Christ. Posted by: Joseph B | Dec 25 2023 18:45 utc | 85 Hi b, Posted by: lex talionis | Dec 25 2023 19:35 utc | 87 Lex Talionis @ 94: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 25 2023 20:10 utc | 88 Rivers | Dec 24 2023 16:51 utc | 16 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 25 2023 20:18 utc | 89 Lev Davidovich | Dec 24 2023 23:29 utc | 47 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 25 2023 20:27 utc | 90 Merry Christmas barflies! Posted by: shocker | Dec 25 2023 21:33 utc | 92 Merry Christmas to all from Sydney and all best to you b. Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 25 2023 22:32 utc | 93 Merry Christmas, Mr. b. Peace will never be allowed by the US war mob. Perpetual war is their way of permanently impoverishing and dispiriting US taxpayers whom they despise (along w. open borders). As to #44, “The US public in particular needs to be made aware that the Palestinian Christian community exists.” Apparently you don’t live in Manhattan. On Christmas Eve Christmas carolers in Washington Sq. Park were interrupted by a “pro Palestinian” mob. Violent, well funded “pro Palestinian” mobs have brought life to halt here–police let them do whatever they want–they’ve closed the Brooklyn Bridge, they’ve occupied Grand Central Station, etc. The “US public” you lecture to is powerless. We’re told to be mindful of “Palestinian Christians” and every other group on earth. Posted by: susan mullen | Dec 25 2023 23:03 utc | 94 My contribution on this bloody, dreary, Xmas holiday 2023.
https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/12/25/frank-capras-defense-of-humanity-cinema-considered-as-a-moral-institution/ Posted by: suzan | Dec 26 2023 1:01 utc | 95 @ suzan | Dec 26 2023 1:01 utc | 110 with the holiday comment….thanks. Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 26 2023 1:39 utc | 96 “Jesus Would Be Killed in Gaza” Peter Oborne’s Alternative Christmas Message Posted by: Orange | Dec 26 2023 7:37 utc | 97 suzan | Dec 26 2023 1:01 utc | 95 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 26 2023 14:04 utc | 98 The Nativity Story would be a non starter if it was happening in Palestine today. Posted by: anon | Dec 26 2023 15:08 utc | 99 Any shepherds or angels found at the scene would be rounded up and shot, with an announcement that they were all carrying chemical weapons and copies of Mein Kampf. Posted by: anon | Dec 26 2023 15:22 utc | 100 |
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