‘Have You No Decency?’ – John Mearsheimer’s Take Of The War In Gaza

December 12, 2023

Professor John Mearsheimer provides a strong piece on the utter perversity and criminality of the Zionist war in Palestine.

Death and Destruction in Gaza

What Israel is doing in Gaza to the Palestinian civilian population – with the support of the Biden administration – is a crime against humanity that serves no meaningful military purpose. As J-Street, an important organization in the Israel lobby, puts it, “The scope of the unfolding humanitarian disaster and civilian casualties is nearly unfathomable.”

Let me elaborate.

First, Israel is purposely massacring huge number of civilians, roughly 70 percent of whom are children and women.
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Second, Israel is purposely starving the desperate Palestinian population by greatly limiting the amount of food, fuel, cooking gas, medicine, and water that can be brought into Gaza.
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Third, Israeli leaders talk about Palestinians and what they would like to do in Gaza in shocking terms, especially when you consider that some of these leaders also talk incessantly about the horrors of the Holocaust.
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Fourth, Israel is not just killing, wounding, and starving huge numbers of Palestinians, it is also systematically destroying their homes as well as critical infrastructure – to include mosques, schools, heritage sites, libraries, key government buildings, and hospitals.
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Fifth, Israel is not just terrorizing and killing Palestinians, it is also publicly humiliating many of their men who have been rounded up by the IDF in routine searches.
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Sixth, although the Israelis are doing the slaughtering, they could not do it without the Biden administration’s support.
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Seventh, while most of the focus is now on Gaza, it is important not to lose sight of what is simultaneously going on in the West Bank. Israeli settlers, working closely with the IDF, continue to kill innocent Palestinians and steal their land.
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As I watch this catastrophe for the Palestinians unfold, I am left with one simple question for Israel’s leaders, their American defenders, and the Biden administration: have you no decency?

The piece has copious footnotes which link to original sources of the claims Mearsheimer makes. I highly recommend to read it in full.

Posted by b on December 12, 2023 at 14:45 UTC | Permalink

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To answer Meaarsheimer’s question:
No, they have no decency. That ship sailed long ago. Sitting here at coffee shop listening to my fellow Americans express their glee and delight at the carnage in Gaza. Anyone who would say a word to the contrary is an anti-Semite and knows to keep mouth shut.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 12 2023 15:00 utc | 1

Israel has turned the suffering of Jews in the European holocaust into an unlimited license to kill. It is a terrible irony of history that the genocidal propaganda and actions characteristic of the German Nazis are now applied by Israel to the Palestinians of Gaza. Israel’s international reputation will never recover from the wanton destruction of Gaza. The government of the United States bears full responsibility for enabling this massacre. Joe Biden should see dead Palestinian women and children in his dreams for the rest of his wretched life.

Posted by: HH | Dec 12 2023 15:08 utc | 2

Wanna bet it has something to do with wresting the PA’s claim to offshore oil and gas fields? Israel was slated to become a major supplier of Energy to Europe, in replacement of Russian supply, therefore the US has to support Israel using any means necessary to have it have exclusive access to the offshore fields, lest the US’ vassals in the EU freeze or go broke before other strategic goals, like “defeating” Russia and China, are achieved.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Dec 12 2023 15:09 utc | 3

To seek “decency” in a nation defined as a state for one people, and in this case by definition an ethno-state and theocracy, is silly. There can be no such creature as a decent racist/ethnocrat.
My career has been spent on planning and designing large infrastructure projects … in these projects, the objectives set at the beginning of the enterprise are critical to its success. Once the objectives of Israel were set as a Jewish state in a multi-ethnic region, the die was cast; and all that has followed could have been (and was by some) foreseen.

Posted by: Caliman | Dec 12 2023 15:11 utc | 4

Posted by: g | Dec 12 2023 15:05 utc | 2
g manages to conflate and misinterpret everything in the standard hasbara style. The removal of the state of Israel does not, of course, mean the death of Israelis. If that truth were admitted, the hasbara propaganda would lose its power.

Posted by: laguerre | Dec 12 2023 15:28 utc | 5

1953: commies everywhere
In a dramatic confrontation, Joseph Welch, special counsel for the U.S. Army, lashes out at Senator Joseph McCarthy during hearings on whether communism has infiltrated the U.S. armed forces. Welch’s verbal assault marked the end of McCarthy’s power during the anticommunist hysteria of the Red Scare in America. . .The senator, in turn, became increasingly enraged, bellowing “point of order, point of order,” screaming at witnesses, and declaring that one highly decorated general was a “disgrace” to his uniform. . . Welch asked, “Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?” . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 12 2023 15:34 utc | 6

Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad
Posted by: g | Dec 12 2023 15:05 utc | 2
Hamas officials are correct in all respects.
‘Israel’ has no place on Palestinian lands.
Their right to violent resistance is valid.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 15:35 utc | 7

Thanks for this.
I am going to press my local Palestine supporters group to print this substack piece as a leaflet. Head it: “Have you no decency!” (Maybe “Have WE no decency?”) and use it on a door to door canvas. First distributing it and secondly returning to discuss it.
Mearsheimer has done an extraordinarily good job. b’s laser like taste buds led us to it!

Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 15:35 utc | 8

What can you expect from people who believe the rest of us are just animals for their use?
At this point the only option is for the ROW to make a choice: us or them
Their Talmud and Torah condemn them; have courage and faith in the Loving, Almighty, and Merciful God. Bear your sorrows with dignity, and shirk not your duty. His winnowing fan is in His hand – the Beast shall be vanquished.

Posted by: OldFart | Dec 12 2023 15:40 utc | 9

“What Israel is doing in Gaza to the Palestinian civilian population – with the support of the Biden administration – is a crime against humanity that serves no meaningful military purpose.”
The ‘Greater Israel’ Scheme And Its Global Power Play: A Delusional Recipe For Armageddon
https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/the-greater-israel-scheme-and-its
Ehret thinks the Ben Gurion channel isnt the real plan but instead they hope to grab the Suez channel

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 12 2023 15:44 utc | 10

You see a lot of “I h8 j00z” type garbage posted all over the place in response to these type stories. It’s as if the only response the ‘mighty’ Hasbaratchik can come up with nowadays is some cheap shot look at me, I’m the victim crap. The tighter they try to grasp, the more slips through.

Posted by: liveload | Dec 12 2023 15:48 utc | 11

I do not believe that anything I say about what is happening in Gaza will affect Israeli or American policy in that conflict. But
I want to be on record
so that when historians look back on this moral calamity, they will see that some Americans were on the right side of history…

My bold. I as well.

… What Israel is doing in Gaza to the Palestinian civilian population – with the support of the Biden administration – is a crime against humanity that serves no meaningful military purpose. As J-Street, an important organization in the Israel lobby, puts it, “The scope of the unfolding humanitarian disaster and civilian casualties is nearly unfathomable.”…

Thank you, b. Thank you, Dr. Mearsheimer, for this manifesto.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 12 2023 15:50 utc | 12

A masterful indictment of the ruling class of US imperialism! Must read for the bar.
The ruling class in the west thought it was cute when the money printer was running and they could maintain their losing wars about the planet. Now, they are stark naked before the world, revealed for the collection of wealthy fools they are.
It is primarily the responsibility of the American youth and working class to dispose these murderous idiots. No voting, legislative tricks, “nice billionaires” or court rulings can bring this about. The only hope is organization and an anti imperialist education for the masses.
Talk to young people, your neighbors and co workers like you do at the bar. Create the infrastructure for revolutionary cells, no matter how small and focus on reeducation until those around catch up.
Times a wasting!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 12 2023 15:51 utc | 13

‘As I watch this catastrophe for the Palestinians unfold, I am left with one simple question for Israel’s leaders, their American defenders, and the Biden administration: have you no decency?’ Obviously a rhetorical question.

Posted by: El Oso de Los Llanos | Dec 12 2023 15:55 utc | 14

Posted by: Caliman | Dec 12 2023 15:11 utc | 5
You raise the critical bit of analysis that informs any discussion of the Zionist Project: The necessity for genocide or displacement of inhabitants of the colonized lands was a given, a necessity, and clearly evident to the planners, supporters to say nothing of those opposed. It may be that the only thing that was not anticipated was how vigorous or long standing the locals would resists. No talk of “we tried to live in peace” has any meaning in light of that fact of this matter.

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 12 2023 15:57 utc | 15

Ultra-nationalism rarely have never been decent. But it is interesting to see how well entrenched the pro-Jewish Lebenraums-crowd is. Also do any non-Jewish supporters of Israel think of the long-term consequences of legitimizing such policies? As a European I feel a Bullseye being drawn on the EU’s back. Immigration will change both the US and the EU where Europeans could end up being given the Palestinian treatment.
Try comparing the “no immigration scenario” with the low and high immigration scenarios. It ain’t pretty for what will come in the next century.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/population-demography/population-projections/database?p_p_id=NavTreeportletprod_WAR_NavTreeportletprod_INSTANCE_e4ZHVlGc0dHM&p_p_lifecycle=0&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view

Posted by: Poul | Dec 12 2023 15:59 utc | 16

-B-
Sometimes I find I get so sad by all of it.
Other times I feel and express a rage of anger, lashing out at all.
Mostly, I just feel helpless.
My calls & letters do nothing. They don’t make me feel better or “empowered”… they just confirm that our elected don’t give a hoot what their constituents express.
Anyways… good account of truthful accounts by Mershheimer… and I don’t even like the phony.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 16:02 utc | 17

No, they have decency.
They are not lunatics or psychopaths, they were just loyal to the system and the values they serve, just like the Nazi party members of the past.

Posted by: CIROC | Dec 12 2023 16:15 utc | 18

“… The removal of the state of Israel does not, of course, mean the death of Israelis…”
Laguerre@6
This has been at the nub of every negotiation that has taken place on the matter since the Balfour Declaration- which the Israelis breach and dishonour every day.
It is not the Palestinians, who historically have bent over backwards to accomodate the Zionists, but the Israelis who have refused to countenance the obvious idea that Palestinians should live in Palestine.
What justice and humanity demand is not the death of a single Israeli but the disbanding of the structures which give the State of Israel its character as a racist, apartheid society.
Nobody is calling for the killing or removal of either migrants of the descendants of migrants, inspired by zionism, in Palestine. All that is being demanded is that the said migrants stop killing the indigenous people of the land.
It would be both possible and globally inspiring to see the replacement of the narrow, bigoted, violent and doomed state represented by the current government, guided by the ravings of medieaval ghetto fanatics, by a secular, multi racial and multi-cultural community in which equality and justice were celebrated and practised.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 16:16 utc | 19

The Oct 7th Inside Job
People refer to Oct 7th as belonging to Hamas.
Hamas’ role on Oct 7th was only one chapter in
a Mossad/IDF plan.
The NYT has revealed that the Zionist leadership
knew as far back as 2022 — in detail — of Hamas’ jail break plan.
Hamas’ plan was a presumptuous plan.
With insider help the presumptuous plan could be made to work
and it did work.
Mossad/IDF would incorporate or “wrap” the Hamas plan into one of their own.
The ultimate goal of the Mossad/IDF plan being ethnic cleansing.
Knowing Hamas’ “presumptuous plan” Mossad/IDF would collaborate in a number of ways,
paramount was the pulling away of the majority of the IDF troops from the Gaza border
just in time for Hamas’ attempted jail break. Hamas’ plan called for the knocking out
of IDF communication and monitoring systems. Mossad/IDF would let Hamas attempt it, let Hamas put
their “fingerprints” on the systems, but insiders (Mossad/IDF) guaranteed the failure
of these systems.
Failure of the comm systems was an important element in the Mossad/IDF plan.
The excuse, or cover, for the delayed reaction by the IDF to the jail break would be
the comm system failure.
Most important to the Mossad/IDF plan, the Hannibal Directive would guarantee a substantial casualty count.
If you are old enough you witnessed first hand what happened after September 11th in the US of A.
Flags waved from every building and vehicle. The country was united as never before in one mind.
The perps then had what they wanted – a license for war.
With a high casualty count and thus blood fever from the Zionist masses
the Mossad/IDF plan then moved to it’s next and most important chapter, the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the West Bank.
The Mossad/IDF plan also counted on support from the serial killers in Washington DC and the
‘Adolf Eichmanns’ — just doing their jobs — in the legacy media.
Oct 7th IS an Inside Job

Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2023 16:26 utc | 20

The Zionists are beginning to realize their Project–Genocide of Palestinians–cannot be completed as they don’t have the power, which is what happens to parasites when they try to kill their host–they suddenly realize that in doing so they also kill themselves. That’s the cold harsh reality people like “g” can’t face.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 16:32 utc | 21

” What Israel is doing in Gaza to the Palestinian civilian population – with the support of the Biden administration – is a crime against humanity that serves no meaningful military purpose.”
War is politics by other means. The political purpose- the genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestine- is the military purpose, and it is quite ‘meaningful’ by any standard. And, while ideology, religion, culture do take on ‘lives of their own,’ political purpose is fundamentally grounded on economic interests. The economic interests of the Israeli state compels them genocide. The economic interests of the US and western elites compel them to support Israel.
Russia and China, as states, recognize this, and their economic interests (there can be no economy without survival) compel them to resist the west, including Israel. The fact that the great bulk of their preparations for this conflict have been focused on building their own economies and creating strong economic ties with the global south demonstrates this.
Mearsheimer, as an old school liberal, makes no critique of these fundamental realities because to do so would be to discuss the inherent contradictions of capitalism that ensure that it will always be a force for evil. He prefers to pretend that this is a matter that begins and ends with the moral character of leaders. That’s no threat to the system of exploitation and genocide. Focusing on changing the faces of the active representatives of the economic elites protects those elites.

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 12 2023 16:32 utc | 22

The Likud gov’t of Israel, as the occupying power, has the responsibility to house, feed, and protect the Arab refugees from Gaza.
Period

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 16:33 utc | 23

Ethnic nationalism combined with religion/ideology leads to the creation of a terror society. The carceral state the US has created is an example. The apartheid state Palestinians are forced to live in is another. The rise of Likud led directly to the terror society Palestinians are resisting and the response of mass murder by the state can be associated with the ideology of Israel’s rulers.

Posted by: Wilikins | Dec 12 2023 16:34 utc | 24

Do you remember roughly when those Ritter episodes came out? I would be very interested to listen, but don’t necessarily have time to scan through all of his content. Any guidance appreciated,.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 11 2023 21:54 utc | 88
Am reposting my answer to you from the previous thread as am not sure you will go back to check it.
Thanks for the Libya links.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_lEy2mXdBU
WHY I GAVE UP MY CAREER TO FIGHT AGAINST ISRAEL
I don’t recognize the interviewwer who appears only briefly. It is a repost from some other channel. I first saw it on “Gacha Gaming” channel having found it by chance. Then it disappeared from there. I found it on this one. If anyone recognizes the interviewer please tell me.
The second interview is with Kim Iversen on Rumble
https://rumble.com/v3urnry-wartime-lies-and-propaganda-exposed-a-conversation-with-scott-ritter.html
From about 30 min to 1 hour. I recommend listening to from 6 min onward to get the background.
This second video explains in detail the UN Weapons Inspection process in Iraq. It was essentially used to prepare Iraq for being bombed in 2003 by ensuring it would be defenceless. The inspection process itself was valid and certified destruction of WMD.
The team Was even used by CIA to try and assasinate Saddam while the inspection was on.
Then when UK + UK was sure there were no more WMD, they launched “Operation Mass Appeal” to convince the public that that Iraq must be attack (again) to get rid of phantom WMD. Israeli intelligence was very much in on this.
During Gulf War 1991 while thousands of civilian Iraqis were being killed the media focused on “poor Israelis” even if more Scuds were launched at Saudi. Almost nobody in Israel died from Iraqi Scuds but they did die from improper use of gas masks.
“In the 1991 Persian Gulf War, Netanyahu appeared on CNN wearing a gas mask as Saddam Hussein’s Iraq fired Scud missiles at Israel. His penchant for using maps to contrast Israel’s small size compared to Arab countries and other props and visual aids originated around this time.”
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/how-netanyahus-mr-security-image-has-been-shattered
Between US UK Isr I don’t know which has been the tail and which the dog over the last 75 to 100 years. It’s a dynamic situation. But clearly they work closely to try and control resources in West Asia and as some point out, also in Africa. Characters over the years include Zbigniew Brzezinski, Robert and Donald Kagan, Wolfowitz, Kissinger, Nuland as a partial list. There are shady players in France. I can’t remember the names, they stay in the background and they were responsible for getting Macron elected. I read about it in 2015 / 2016.
Someone had put together a great video of every time Netanyahu has appeared before the US government or UN asking for war against every Muslim country.
One of the “Greater Israel” maps includes good chunks of Kuwait, Saudi, Iraq. It has clearly been a strategy over the years to never allow Egypt, Jordan, KSA, UAE to be militarily independent. Iraq was given weapons to try and defeat Iran but when that failed, they destroyed Iraq.

Posted by: pq | Dec 12 2023 16:35 utc | 25

Posted by: g | Dec 12 2023 16:02 utc | 18
The usual attempt to conflate the end of a foreign colony in the ME with the holocaust. The foreign colonists go back home that’s what happens.

Posted by: laguerre | Dec 12 2023 16:39 utc | 26

I have been forming the opinion that their exists a difference in attitude between the US population and the governing population inside the Washington Beltway. The US population, in general, reflecting the rescuing Christian values of being decent, unpretentious and even humble. The Beltway crowd just the opposite.
As time goes by, however, I’m less sure this is true. The seeming ease with which the Gaza devastation has been accepted among the US population, Christians in particular, is bothersome. Despite the many, many sermons about loving thy neighbor as thyself, Christians seem to go on as if that instruction belongs in a distant fairyland.
And I’m aware of the media influences. Just the same…

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Dec 12 2023 16:40 utc | 27

thanks b…
why ask this question?? the answer is obvious.. it is much worse then this too..

Posted by: james | Dec 12 2023 16:42 utc | 28

“It would be both possible and globally inspiring to see the replacement of the narrow, bigoted, violent and doomed state represented by the current government, guided by the ravings of medieaval ghetto fanatics, by a secular, multi racial and multi-cultural community in which equality and justice were celebrated and practised.”
Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 16:16 utc | 22
Unfortunately, “a secular , multi racial and multi cultural community in which equality and justice were celebrated and practised” , has never existed in human history nor will it occur in the future as long as there is no tampering of human DNA.
I wish such a world you long for could be possible; as a matter of fact I would like to throw in my ideal world where, ‘no one dies, no one get sick no one is ugly and no one is mean to another.”
One can see by my hyperbole how audacious your ask is; your secular ideals are, essentially are of a religious mystical nature.
A difference without a distinction.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 12 2023 16:42 utc | 29

Beyond chutzpah (cont’d)
During a Hanukkah holiday reception at the White House on Monday, Biden commented: « Folks, were there no Israel, there wouldn’t be a Jew in the world who is safe. »

Posted by: Leuk | Dec 12 2023 16:49 utc | 30

Posted by: Caliman | Dec 12 2023 16:52 utc | 31

Posted by: Caliman | Dec 12 2023 15:11 utc | 5
Nailed it!

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 12 2023 16:53 utc | 32

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/31475

🇵🇸UN Aid to Gaza, is it all a Grotesque Joke?
Mockery of Mercy: The UN’s ‘Toy Food’ Aid to Gaza – A Grotesque Display of World’s Indifference. This isn’t aid, it’s an insult. Empty gestures replace real help, mirroring the odious contempt for Palestinian suffering. While Gaza starves, the world’s response is a cruel joke…

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 12 2023 16:56 utc | 33

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 12 2023 15:00 utc | 1
I certainly let everyone I know exactly how I feel about it…and how I feel about them if they agree with the Genocide!!! Anyone who agrees with what the izzies are doing deserves a face smashing on the spot.
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 16:32 utc | 25
Well said!!! Cheers!

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Dec 12 2023 17:00 utc | 34

During a Hanukkah holiday reception at the White House on Monday, Biden commented: « Folks, were there no Israel, there wouldn’t be a Jew in the world who is safe. »
Posted by: Leuk | Dec 12 2023 16:49 utc | 34
What a stupid joke but that’s truly what zionists think.
Thanks to the bloodthirsty fascists, NOW there won’t be a jew safe anywhere in the world. nuttyahoo and biden have done more to promote real hatred than all the neo-nazi groups combined.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 17:00 utc | 35

Excellent piece b.
Thank you.

Posted by: Forest | Dec 12 2023 17:02 utc | 36

re: anon2020 | Dec 12 2023 16:56 utc | 38
You wrote: “ Mockery of Mercy: The UN’s ‘Toy Food’ Aid to Gaza – A Grotesque Display of World’s Indifference. This isn’t aid, it’s an insult. Empty gestures replace real help, mirroring the odious contempt for Palestinian suffering.
Agreed.
The Palestinians desperately need real help, including military help. But to date, Hamas are the only Muslims who will fight the Israelis/US

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 12 2023 17:07 utc | 37

The safest place for Jewish People these days is paradoxically ….. Iran

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:07 utc | 38

Too true Exile, for thousands of years jews have been safe in Persia.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 17:10 utc | 39

Posted by karlof1@16:32
Parasites: Precisely. With notable exceptions such as Mersheimer, the Mate’s, father and son; Michel Chossudovsky, Max Blumenthal and numerous other honest, honorable and righteous Jews; the entire Talmudist agenda of total world domination is now revealed by their vicious actions against the Palestinian people is predatory parasites. As such, those “Chosenites” need their own reservations, far, far away from the rest of humanity.
Predatorial parasites, infesting the human race are toxic by nature. The underlying condition may well be the Bris, which at day 8 in the life of an infant who has barely had time to bond with his loving mother; is taken away by his father and a group of other males and literally, without his informed consent, is deprived of the most nerve-ending rich element in the male body. Subconsciously, fear is imposed and also a feeling of betrayal by his mother. Thus is an innocent infant the victim of an induced neurosis, which later in life can develop into a psychosis.
Thus, we can conclude that the rank insanity now standing stark naked in front of the entire world, is NOT innate in the individual, rather it is imposed, branded, we might aver, by violent sexual abuse. Were the Bris to be central to the Bar Mitzvah ritual at the onset of manhood, the conscious mind would be well developed and the choice would be that of the individual as to whether or not to retain the Tribal bond.
We are not likely to witness the essential reform I have just introduced. Therefore, a logical solution in terms of an exclusionary reservation far away from major human settlement must be considered. Two of my suggestions in past postings, here at MoA and elsewhere, have been the far northwest corner of Western Australia and the westernmost extension of Alaska’s Aleutian Islands. This matter is urgent. Like a hangnail or rotten tooth, the toxin must be removed from those victimized by the parasitical entity.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 17:12 utc | 40

The bedwetting fascists of the IDF will terrify no modern military. They congregate in groups, use their phones, walk in clumps behind armored vehicles in urban areas, generally show a complete lack of acumen or professionalism. After their performance against the teenaged rebels with small arms of Hamas, absolutely no state in the region will fear their prowess. An army of war criminals and cowards.
An interesting thing happens to military forces when they are used as garrison – police units for too long. They lose all effectiveness. It’s like the moral rot that has set in as they abuse innocents somehow damns them.
Israel’s pathetic forces, even buttressed by the foolish Maericans , are unable to murder everyone in Gaza. But through their bloodthirsty efforts the Israelis ensure the long term end of their state. It seems a desperate attempt before Maerican collapse to make facts on the ground. Utter lunacy, but the Israeli leadership is not known for intelligence.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 12 2023 17:14 utc | 41

“UK chief rabbi: Unfathomable mass atrocity perpetrated on China’s Uighur Muslims” https://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-chief-rabbi-unfathomable-mass-atrocity-perpetrated-on-chinas-uighur-muslims/
“Chief Rabbi criticises Sadiq Khan’s ‘irresponsible’ calls for Gaza ceasefire” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/01/chief-rabbi-sadiq-khan-ceasefire-israel-hamas-war/
The UK Chief Rabbi created a genocide hoax against the Chinese and actively supports a genocide against the Palestinians. It is not hard to figure out why China has taken such a distant attitude towards Israel since October 7.

Posted by: adadf | Dec 12 2023 17:21 utc | 42

Middle East eye reports:
Twenty Israeli soldiers who were killed in Gaza died from friendly fire, according to new data from the Israeli army.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:22 utc | 43

Context – 15-20% of IDF conscripts reported KIA in Gaza were KIA’d from friendly fire.
Read that again
And then again

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:26 utc | 44

Posted by Johnny Dollar @ 16:40
You cite the “Christians” as being unthinkingly (my addendum) supportive of the Parasite $tate in Occupied Palestine. The problem there goes back to the creation of the “Holy” Bible by the Roman Emperor Constantine. He employed Eusebius of Caesarea and a claque of fellow priest crafters to go through the various scriptures and texts dating back from over the past 300 years and come up with a mind-control religion which would be a vital prop for the Empire. Many Gospels were eliminated from consideration as they were of a spiritual rather than a religious nature…most prominent being the Gospel of Thomas, which was one of several such which were unearthed in Nag Hammadi, Egypt as recently as 1945.
Thus, was spirituality eschewed and replaced by a heavily redacted and interpolated mishmash which became Canon Law under the Bishop of Rome, as directed by the fact that the Emperor struck back against the spiritual awakening which had infused the Eastern Mediterranean basin and replaced it with a combination of the Yahwist Old Testicles and a thoroughly bowdlerized “New” one. From that usurpation, today’s “Christian” Zionists and Evangelical “Rupturites” are a legion of supporters for the genocide against the Palestinian native people of that region.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 17:27 utc | 45

g 18
“War is cruelty.”
So presumably Hamas should go out and actually commit all the fake atrocities of which they have been (falsely) accused?
“Economic development could flow into Gaza.”
The EU has funded many projects in Gaza and the West Bank.
They have all been bulldozed and destroyed by the Zionist Occupation.
The EU built an airport in Gaza. The Zionist occupiers bulldozed it and destroyed it. They then defecated all over the site.
This now seems to be a typical Zionist party piece.
They drive sewage trucks through Palestinian villages, randomly spraying homes with raw sewage.
During the occupation of south Lebanon, Zionist troops routinely broke into homes and used them as toilets.
“Dirty Jews” used to be a Nazi trope. It has since become a reality.
Hamas have repeatedly endorsed a 2 state solution.
But you cannot really negotiate with people who regard the rest of humanity merely as donkeys to serve their needs.

Posted by: anon | Dec 12 2023 17:32 utc | 46

The full-blown sociopaths who run things in the West consider decency to be contemptible weakness.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2023 17:33 utc | 47

I suggest Nelson NZ … and a moustache and different outfit (golfing clothes may be?).
Very polite people will pretend not to recognize him if he could refrain from yelling.
Sunny afternoons, pretty good wine, 300 different kinds of quiches, sailing, fishing …
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Nelson,+New+Zealand/@-41.2973819,173.1482005,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x6d3becc491b72e7d:0xa00ef88e796a480!8m2!3d-41.2985321!4d173.2443635!16zL20vMGdzMGc?entry=ttu

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Dec 12 2023 17:34 utc | 48

Posted by: pq | Dec 12 2023 16:35 utc | 29
For what it’s worth, you can also just try to ask Scott a direct question to answer if you want to know something specific: https://scottrittermerch.com/pages/ask-the-inspector
From my own experience, I’d say that the odds of getting a response are about 25%, and sometimes he digresses and answers a question I didn’t ask, but overall I’d say this avenue is pretty decent
I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that I trust national “outcasts” and foreign leaders of former enemy states to tell me the truth about 80% of the time and yet I expect my own representatives and those of our closest allies to lie to me 90% of the time. I have come to accept it as a statement of fact, but I still just find it incomprehensible at the same time.

Posted by: Just a suggestion | Dec 12 2023 17:36 utc | 49

OT alert.
My bad, so sorry !
it was about Zelensky the clown …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Dec 12 2023 17:36 utc | 50

g 18
So presumably Hamas should go out and actually commit all the fake atrocities of which they have been (falsely) accused?
“Economic development could flow into Gaza.”
Posted by: anon | Dec 12 2023 17:32 utc | 51
Hamas is effectively present in the West Bank, yet none of the benefits ‘g’ claims would flow to the Palestinians have appeared.
In fact, what he describes should ideally happen is exactly what we find in the West Bank.
His ‘argument’ has the same form of myopia common to all hasbara.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 17:36 utc | 51

Posted by Caliman @ 1652
Your city state solution would only be possible if there was to be a confederation of them in Palestine, similar to that of the Swiss model, which has worked well for that nation, which itself is comprised of German, French, and Italian speaking Cantons, along with a relative handful who speak Romansh. Further, the population is religiously divided amongst Calvinists, Catholics, a comparative handful of Lutherans and other Protestants and various non-religious, Jews and atheists.
However, my own take is that except possibly for that relatively small native Jewish population amongst the 85% ancient Hebrew DNA found amongst Muslims and Christians in that embittered land…those mostly Turkic, Iranian and European ancestored Jews would be a sticking point. They have no “purebred” dog in the fight, rather being an exogamous entity, would tend to fight to the death for their assumed “Chosenness”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 17:37 utc | 52

Twenty Israeli soldiers who were killed in Gaza died from friendly fire, according to new data from the Israeli army.
Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:22 utc | 48
The good thing about a nation created by selecting for psychopathy is that they eventually start to feed on each other due to the basic inability to understand the value of human life.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 17:38 utc | 53

Hamas is effectively *NOT* present in the West Bank, yet none of the benefits ‘g’ claims would flow to the Palestinians have appeared.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 17:36 utc | 56
Edit.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 17:39 utc | 54

Context – 15-20% of IDF conscripts reported KIA in Gaza were KIA’d from friendly fire.
Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:26 utc | 49
No, that’s BS. Israel does not want to admit that they are getting killed by a bunch of stateless people in sandals and have decided to hype up their own incompetence in a desperate attempt instead.
On another semi-related topic, I am guessing, but am not sure, that one of the reasons you see so many Israeli officers killed and so few soldiers is that they are relying heavily on mercenaries and just don’t declare those deaths. If correct, this may explain the very strange KIA/WIA ratios as well

Posted by: Just a suggestion | Dec 12 2023 17:41 utc | 55

What professor Mearsheimer accurately describes is the 21st century analogue of the 1940s “Final solution” in Germany… Only In the contemporary instance the “war in Gaza” is the final solution to the Palestinian problem that emerged in the British mandate territories in the late 1940s.
The Israeli government is frank in stating that, one way or the other, it intends to eliminate the indigenous occupants of Palestine by way of mass deportation or mass murder. The later will be executed under the pretext of a war against Hamas, in which Mass murder will be depicted as unintended collateral damage.
10/7 itself is a false flag Terror Spectacle designed to stampede any reluctant actors in Israel to back massive crimes against humanity. It also provided a convenient Cover on the international stage for waging a “Final solution” campaign to rid Palestine of Palestinians.
The final step in this perfidy is to virtually criminalize those who protest this Israeli extermination program against the Palestinians in the United States and across the west.
Aside from Bernard, John Mearsheimer, Norman Finkelstein, and Max Blumenthal not a single figure in the mainstream press, nor the Alt media for that matter(ie, Pepe Escobar, Alexandra Mercouris, Brian Berletic, and Yves Smith) are willing to portray events in Gaza as anything other than a legitimate military conflict.

Posted by: Posa | Dec 12 2023 17:44 utc | 56

g: Why don’t you just pack up and go home. Admit that the ploy “A land without a people for a people without a land” was just a .. ploy.

Posted by: blueswede | Dec 12 2023 17:45 utc | 57

Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 16:16 utc | 22
Very well said, bevin; thank you.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 12 2023 17:46 utc | 58

Posted by Dr 11 @17:14
“Those whom the gods would punish, they first drive mad”. Slightly off as a direct quotation, but the point is made.
The arrogance and duplicity characteristic of the “Chosen” myth, has logically had its effect over time. Due to huge amounts of Dollars and $hekels courtesy of American taxpayers and wealthy Uber-Jews from across the world, the average Israeli, at least those of the Ashkenazi background, live what would be described as middle-middle to upper-middle lifestyles. Very few of them work with their hands, as did the original Sabras. Rather, they sit on their fat asses all day and enjoy the benefits of free higher educations and universal health-care.
Soft men, even along with the assistance of hardened feminists cannot stand up to warrior men who have lost virtually everything and have nothing to lose.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 17:48 utc | 59

I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that I trust national “outcasts” and foreign leaders of former enemy states to tell me the truth about 80% of the time and yet I expect my own representatives and those of our closest allies to lie to me 90% of the time. I have come to accept it as a statement of fact, but I still just find it incomprehensible at the same time.
Posted by: Just a suggestion | Dec 12 2023 17:36 utc | 54
Way back in the early 90s I read a piece (sorry, can’t remember where) regarding the unification of Germany. Supposedly there was common East German slogan that has made perfect sense since that time:
Everything the DDR told us about how good communism is was a lie, but everything they told us about how bad capitalism is was true.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 17:48 utc | 60

The distinction of war
I found this link on UNZ and it clearly explains the case for calling it war
a few good tidbits about Trudeau and the real reason behind presenting and applauding the old Nazi in parliament
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nnXI65yHRM2u/

Posted by: ld | Dec 12 2023 17:49 utc | 61

Global Times published one of those Exactamundo-type of political cartoons that are produced by Carlos Latuff today that combined with the “have you no decency” line prompted a short editorial, “Business as Usual: UNSC Veto”. There are times when pictures are far more powerful than words.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 17:51 utc | 62

These cowardly excuses for soldiers are at it again, storming a hospital filled with the bedridden and dismembered and pretending they’re HAMAS fighters:

On December 12, the Ministry of Health of the Gaza Strip said that Israeli troops began storming the Kamal Adwan hospital in the north of the enclave. Israeli forces launched assault days after they besieged, shelled and heavily damaged the medical facility.
The hospital is located near Jabalia, which turned into ruins as it has become one of the main battlefields in the last few days.

(S.F)
A diaper army indeed.
The entire IDF wouldn’t last a week in Afghanistan, Dagestan or Chechnya, or Yemen or any other place where a traditional Islamic warrior culture prevails.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 17:53 utc | 63

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:54 utc | 64

From the last Palestine thread, commenting on, well, the insanity of the foreskin debate.

thanks for that injection of sanity.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 9 2023 15:29 utc | 268
Thank you for your kind words sean. I am reminded of your words, when I just read Patrick Lawrence’s poignant essay on new McCarthyism, over at CN, about what one his commenters said.

“There is only one way to deal with insanity. Stay sane ourselves.”
It is a start, under the circumstances.

https://consortiumnews.com/2023/12/12/patrick-lawrence-gaza-confronting-power/

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 12 2023 18:00 utc | 65

“Russia, Israel hold trust-based dialogue on situation in Gaza — MFA”
https://tass.com/politics/1719751
“MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS/. The dialogue between Russia and Israel regarding the situation in the Gaza Strip is carried out in the spirit of trust, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing.”
“ Zakharova noted that Russia is grateful to Israel for its assistance in getting Russians and their family members out of Gaza. “The Israeli side is grateful to Russia for the release of hostages, work in this direction,” she continued. “We continue to coordinate with all interested parties, including the Israelis, on issues of providing urgent humanitarian assistance to the residents of the Palestinian enclave.”
Who’s your Daddy Russia 🇷🇺? Kneel sucker…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 18:02 utc | 66

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/12/12/moscow-and-gaza-is-russia-ready-for-a-major-shift-in-its-middle-east-policy/

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 18:02 utc | 67

@Posted by: Posa | Dec 12 2023 17:44 utc | 61
“10/7 itself is a false flag Terror Spectacle designed to stampede any reluctant actors in Israel to back massive crimes against humanity.”
Exactly.
And exactly like September 11th.
After September 11th the masses in the US accepted war. Wars became easy to accept, most can’t even name them all.
Afghanistan, Iraq, South Ossetia, Lebanon, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Ukraine…and more…and more…
Like September 11th, Oct 7th is a false flag action (see my post @Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2023 16:26 utc | 24).
Mossad/IDF *used* Hamas, first to allow Hamas to enrage the Zionist masses, and second to frame the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
as an operation against Hamas.
It took most people a long time to realize that September 11th was an inside job.
How long until people come around and realize that Oct 7th was also an inside job?

Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2023 18:06 utc | 68

I’m just grateful all the masks are off.
Obviously Russia is ok with any country running amuck on International Law and War Crimes, except the “Empire of Lies” and the “Collective West” … the USA serves only the business interest & Rothschild/Goldman Sachs banksters…
So, that really only leaves China & Iran to straighten the Palestinian issue out or not.
At least we know where we stand.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 18:17 utc | 69

“…Unfortunately, “a secular , multi racial and multi cultural community in which equality and justice were celebrated and practised” , has never existed in human history nor will it occur in the future as long as there is no tampering of human DNA…” canuck@33
Neither part of your statement is true.
It is quite reasonable and practical to make a community in which people of various origins live together peacefully and, for the most part without violence. Look out of the window.
If we remove the causes of most disputes, which are material, from our societies by banishing both exploitation and imposed poverty and encouraging that co-operation which is, and has been historically, much more fruitful in all senses, than competition there will be an enormous reduction in the number of clashes and disputes between individuals and groups.
This has nothing to do with DNA or any other importation from the ideology of race. Aggression is not ‘hard wired’ into us, self protection however seems to be a common and benign instinct.
librul | Dec 12 2023 16:26 utc | 24
Could you explain what a “Presumptuous plan” is? It is an expression that I have not run across before.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 18:18 utc | 70

Posted by: Cyril | Dec 12 2023 18:32 utc | 71

“..How long until people come around and realize that Oct 7th was also an inside job?”
librul@72
AS your post shows, the answer is ‘no time at all.’ Some people, among whose number you appear to be, understand instantly that major events were carried out by secret conspiracies.Often they can name those responsible or at least identify their geographical or social location.
No evidence is ever needed to substantiate these conclusions.
To those who analyse the world in terms of the secret influence of malign sets of people the burden of proof that nature, a ruling class, an Empire, or, as was the case on both the 7 of October and the 11th of September, those claiming responsibility lies with others. The presumption is that the illuminati, or the Armenians, or Albanians, anglos or The City or…did it.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 18:47 utc | 72

The Zionist Jews collaborated with the Nazis of Germany to
allow some of their friends to get passage to Palestine in return
for “pacifying” the Jews who were headed to Auschwitz.
This and many other illuminating facts are noted here:
“https://shop.thecommunists.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Harpal-Brar-Zionism.pdf”

Posted by: Brother Bill | Dec 12 2023 18:48 utc | 73

Dmitry Orlov expects Israel to disappear (a 33-minute video). As Orlov is a Jew, I doubt that he was happy to say this, but he was honest enough to admit the likely consequence of what Israel is doing now.
Posted by: Cyril | Dec 12 2023 18:32 utc | 75
My persistent estimate over the years and across many forums has been that by 2030 the Zionist Occupation would have fallen to the Palestinian Resistance.
I see no reason to revise that estimate.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 12 2023 18:56 utc | 74

A troll is the only feedback I get from “the bar” on
librul | Dec 12 2023 16:26 utc | 24
What a disappointment the bar is.

Posted by: librul | Dec 12 2023 19:07 utc | 75

Israel, stop invading the neighbors and abusing their hospitality. 🙁 Burning down their house is also not neighborly. 🙁 This is not a good way to make friends and influence others, dear. 🙁 Here, have a cookie, you must be tired from all that destruction.
🙂 Have you tried peace and kindness instead? 🙂 It’s usually not that hard to be civil. 🙂 We know you’re not good at math, honey, but you cannot keep up this behavior in the neighborhood. 🙂 You know, one day we won’t be there to help you. 🙂 Aw, there there, have another cookie.
(The West is ran by spoiled children and doormat moms. 😉 Ha!)

Posted by: titmouse | Dec 12 2023 19:10 utc | 76

The bedwetting fascists of the IDF will terrify no modern military. They congregate in groups, use their phones, walk in clumps behind armored vehicles in urban areas, generally show a complete lack of acumen or professionalism. After their performance against the teenaged rebels with small arms of Hamas, absolutely no state in the region will fear their prowess. An army of war criminals and cowards.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 12 2023 17:14 utc | 46
Actually the real power, as per typical western practice, lies in the air force and access to american ISR and support which can be used to turn opponents into a pile of rubble. They can remain focused on technical competency and carry out their tasks, without having to deal with what killing/brutalizing civilians up close and personal entails; note however that carrying out atrocities and doing OK on the battlefield are not in principle mutually exclusive, there are plenty of german examples from WW2 of that. That said the regular armies in the region have either been destroyed (Syria, Iraq) or bought/neutralized (Egypt etc.) and none were a master of competence so the point is moot.

Posted by: Satepestage | Dec 12 2023 19:13 utc | 77

Posted by: canuck | Dec 12 2023 16:42 utc | 33
“Unfortunately, “a secular , multi racial and multi cultural community in which equality and justice were celebrated and practised” , has never existed in human history nor will it occur in the future as long as there is no tampering of human DNA.”
I disagree. Note that Bevin said “community”, not “state” … there’s a big difference there. There have been many city-states and other small to medium size communities that were reasonable approximations of the quoted ideal over human existence. But the recent dominance of nation states, artificial creations to maximize central power and oligarchic control, has mitigated against these communities.
The semi-independent cosmopolitan modern city state needs to make a comeback … something like Singapore, but more democratic …
Posted by: Caliman | Dec 12 2023 16:52 utc | 34
Caliman, you have convinced me; replacing ‘nation state’ by “community’ makes a plethora of difference I missed that major point of my first iteration of Bevin’s idea – I agree that de-centralization would be a boon to fairness , justice and all the ‘good stuff’.
Athens, Thebes, Corinth were a successful city states which bequeathed countless artistic and philosophical intellectual legacies to mankind; yet when Athens was at its most ‘democratic ‘it had 500 voting citizens out of a population of app. 100,000; Athens withheld the other Peloponnesian city taxes paid to Athens to ostensibly build warships to protect against Perisa- but Athens spent it on the arts like the sculptor Phidias perhaps the greatest sculptor in Western history.
I think they spent the money wisely.
Democracy is over rated.
My apologies to Bevin.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 12 2023 19:13 utc | 78

No decency? Anyone who asks a question like that, born a US citizen in 1947, is a house n***a.
Does the question of decency do justice to the facts?
There’s no peeping through the keyhole in women’s changing rooms here.
It’s about mass murder!
The perpetrators are either incapacitated by third parties or will eventually die a natural death. Mearsheimer does not address option 1.
Even asking “Are you crazy?” makes no sense.
Because what else would they be, the perpetrators?
What does Mearsheimer expect?
Should the Palestinians be allowed to build casinos in their ghetto reservations?
Is it ok then?

Posted by: 600w | Dec 12 2023 19:15 utc | 79

Lol … latest…
Israel is apparently trying to work out a “settlement” with Hezbollah ( probably Putin serving as go between Nuttyahoo & Raisi) whereby:
1) Hezbollah agrees to:
Backing several kilometers away from Bordet line and allowing French Peacekeepers inside Lebanon Territory
And Israel will:
Have USA Troops Peacekeepers on Israel’s side.
This way:
No War breaks out between Hezbollah and Israel…
While Israel continues with their Ethnic cleansing & Greater Israel project.
What’s in it for Hezbollah?? No war —yet—(as we all know according to Greater Israel map… Souther Lebanon part of “promised land”)
What’s in it for Israel? Not getting destroyed.
What’s the Bar think? Will Hezbollah be swayed?
Will Iran say: Do it?
Russia obviously doesn’t want a ME blow out, TASS keeps citing how Russia & Iran are settling this bug “business deal”…
Russia buying Iran off?
I don’t know… just wondering. Plots, shenanigans, schemes & machinations…. It’s all the World Leaders can operate by.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 19:26 utc | 80

The presumption is that the illuminati, or the Armenians, or Albanians, anglos or The City or…did it.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 12 2023 18:47 utc | 76
Except in the case of 9/11 (and increasingly by many others 10/7) the perps are well known to those who investigated. Chris Bollyn many years ago explained the who and why of 9/11. Sadly, that doesn’t include the vast majority who only know what they see on TV or read on fuckbook.
https://bollyn.com/about-christopher-bollyn/
https://youtu.be/ryG86S0sbW4?si=HANRo7VHrAef1SJO
https://youtu.be/qOq-LbQ4erM?si=wjWV4nG1XIPR4Jce

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 19:30 utc | 81

According to Gallant: The Hezbollah/Lebanon “deal” is “imminent”
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/gallant-says-open-to-hezbollah-agreement-as-report-says-deal-may-be-imminent/ar-AA1llttjBecause
Sorry, can’t see it.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 19:32 utc | 82

Considerable negativity is raised toward Russian foreign policy regarding Israel. Note that Foreign minister Lavrov met with Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Palestine and Indonesia on November 22 in Moscow. Followed by an unprecedented visit by Putin with trade, oil and foreign ministers in tow, in SA, UAE. Note the exceptional welcome offered by SA. Note very little read out of discussions other than affirmation of friendship. Russia as well as China are attempting to maintain neutrality in order to maintain a strong position in the negotiations for outcome, which will be fraught with conflict as regards the establishment of Palestine as a truly independent state. Note shortly thereafter, Guterres invokes Article 99 of the UN charter calling an emergency meeting of the Security Council. Palestine listed on document as independent state. This vote revealed the US as the only veto, with devastating consequences to US, whose international reputation dropped to confirmed pariah. Also, I believe as is allowed by Article 99, Guterres is moving the issue to the General Assembly if he has 7 votes to do so (US veto would be abnegated). Much is occurring below the surface on these issues – no good chess player relies on open confrontation, rather subtle moves, en passant, until suddenly the queen is in check.

Posted by: abierno | Dec 12 2023 19:35 utc | 83

karlof1@1751
Cartoon is a zinger. Thanks for that. With the WarDefense industry being the last remnant of major industrial production in the U$$A; the $hekels which can be wrung out of the process by criminalized Congre$$critters has metastasized to a degree where there almost no adults left in the room. Temptation becomes overwhelming for that nest of greedy grifters.
To restore our Ruptured Republic, the major M.I. corporations need to be broken into pieces, most of which would be tasked, with government help, to restore America’s infrastructure.
Almost lost my baby sister, now a grandmother only because her car was right at the edge when the I-35 bridge collapsed into the Mississippi several years back. Bridges, roads, forests on federal lands, to say nothing about passenger rail…have devolved into a national disgrace. I could go on and on about all of that, but the gist of the argument is that we do not need to extend U$$A military power into bases in literally scores of countries right across the planet.
Time to pull in the horns and task the military to protect our Southern borders…and to eject all those illegal migrants, many of whom are military-age males.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 19:36 utc | 84

Never mind… in last 7 minutes have answer:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2000154
“Hezbollah Categorically Rejects Any Compromise on Military Resistance in South Lebanon: Sheikh Qassem
Hezbollah Deputy Chief Sheikh Naim Qassem stressed that Hezbollah will continue striking the Israeli occupation sites on Lebanon border as long as the Zionist war on Gaza continues, adding that the pace of the attacks depends on the field conditions.
“We are completely ready for any border escalation.”
His eminence also emphasized that Hezbollah categorically rejects compromising on the military resistance in South Lebanon, stressing that this power controls and blocks the Israeli barbarism.
“Threats and enticements do not affect Hezbollah,” sheikh Qassem affirmed.
Sheikh Qassem also underscored that Hezbollah border attacks do not correlate with the local issues in Lebanon.“

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 19:41 utc | 85

…….I am guessing, but am not sure, that one of the reasons you see so many Israeli officers killed and so few soldiers is that they are relying heavily on mercenaries and just don’t declare those deaths. If correct, this may explain the very strange KIA/WIA ratios as well
Posted by: Just a suggestion | Dec 12 2023 17:41 utc………
Fascinating speculation – low rent Mercs might also explain why the infantry appears so hopelessly amateurish in the videos we see.
Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 17:54 utc | 67
If they do, maybe they recruited people without future.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/
”
Israel has treated over 1,000 wounded Syrians in its hospitals since the onset of the civil war in 2011.
”

Posted by: 600w | Dec 12 2023 19:45 utc | 86

Sakinah @1800
The “foreskin debate” is highly germane to the insanity and out and out psychopathy of the Zionist Entity in Occupied Palestine. Those without psychological insights are not capable of delving into the depths of the mental state of the Talmudists.
Though I am on the e.m. list for Consortium News, I only read a few of their essays, as they tend to be rather “soft” on most of the pressing issues of the day and only occasionally rise to the occasion. Patrick Lawrence is not bad, but neither are his postings scintellating in possible resonance. Their most powerful voice emanate from the redoubtable Dianna Johnstone, who has been the world’s #1 peace advocate dating clear back to the Vietnam War.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 19:45 utc | 87

Not that it’s news as most knew: RT reports Biden confessing, “I am a Zionist”. Also promoted was the new line that Anti-Zionism is the same as Anti-Semitism. He also uttered another “as long as it takes” promise to provide military aid to the Zionists for their Genocide Project “until they get rid of Hamas” a promise that we all know is as empty as the suit it came from.
Ansarallah has attacked another tanker that was eventually bound for Occupied Palestine. I await the targeting of vessels leaving Occupied Palestine for they are just as important.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 19:48 utc | 88

g (golly) @1805
Rather snarky and one-sided. If converts to Judaism have the “right to return” to an Israeli entity to which they have utterly no historical ethnic background, why should Palestinian Nakba refugees and their descendants not have equal rights to return to their native land and original property?

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 19:49 utc | 89

Thanks Trubind1 for that update! Go Hezbollah!

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 12 2023 19:51 utc | 90

Hedly @ 1930
Give Bevin a bit of a break. At times he does get caught up in his own rhetoric.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 19:57 utc | 91

RE: abierno | Dec 12 2023 19:35 utc | 87
“Considerable negativity is raised toward Russian foreign policy regarding Israel.”
My “negativity” here and there regarding Russia’s “policy” is simply pointing out that they are not worthy of a pedestal as is any other Nation right now, they have admirable leadership, values and goals.
But when “policy” dictates what you “call out” as you present yourself as a messenger/mediator for Nation states you chose to have a relationship with… then how are you “different” from the “empire of lies” or the”collective West”?
It’s not like Russia doesn’t have alternate motives, BRICS, balance of SA/UAE/Iran… it’s values, methods & motives are indeed more admirable than “empire of lies”, but in the end, it’s “business”.
They operate in the same way… why let “values” get in the way of : Policy and “deal making”.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Dec 12 2023 19:57 utc | 92

I’m still with you, ld – still bearing witness to the relentless pain and excruciating suffering of the innocents. Just in case anyone is ready to despair; I keep from it because I am sure I am not entitled to despair.
I, too hate my government and condemn those running it.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Dec 12 2023 19:58 utc | 93

abierno @ 1935
Fascinating take on the backroom inner workings of multipartite diplomacy. The possibility range must not be dismissed out of hand.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 20:00 utc | 94

.. ….why should Palestinian Nakba refugees and their descendants not have equal rights to return to their native land and original property?…..
UNR 194 has addressed this topic with clarity;

refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_194

Posted by: Exile | Dec 12 2023 20:01 utc | 95

aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 19:36 utc | 88–
Thanks for your reply. The main problem is too much of USA business is monopolized, conglomoratized that enables Monopoly Rent to be added to almost everything within the national economy as Hudson, Black, Keen, Wolfe, and other genuine economists have proven. The MIC arguably ought to be a public utility as it is in Russia and China which would eliminate the graft and actually provide defense instead of providing Monopoly Rents and no defense. As Trump’s popularity has shown, there’s a large amount of support for a conservative America First type of movement aimed at reconstructing and modifying the nation’s infrastructure. But this isn’t the thread for such a discussion.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 20:02 utc | 96

trubindi @ 1941
From several sources over the past few weeks, it strikes me that Qassem has a sense of strategic analysis which harkens back to the early stages of Islam, rather than the hotheaded irrationality which characterizes so much of Islamic “leadership” in this devolved cultural matrix. His astuteness approaches that of V.V. Putin, the equivalent of Furst Otto Von Bismarck in the latter quarter of the 19th Century.
Remarkable men. Sheikh Qassem appears to be incapable of flying off the handle. All his moves appear to be those of a Grand Master on the geopolitical chessboard.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2023 20:06 utc | 97

g 2
” What do you think of Pakistan and Iran deporting millions of Afghans?”
It looks like the Islamic prophecy that Afghans will eventually destroy Israel is getting to the Israelis. If they can get away with genociding Palestine , 100% Afghanistan will be next on the list.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 12 2023 20:07 utc | 98

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 12 2023 17:00 utc | 38
nuttyahoo and biden have done more to promote real hatred than all the neo-nazi groups combined.
<=hatred is a divide and conquer strategy; it polarizes humanity...which splits the vote, but it does not get to the bottom of the purpose of placing Israel in the Middle East? That purpose was then, is now and likely will continue for some time forward to be to own, posses, control and profit from the oil, gas, and pipeline profits to be made from the European energy markets. If there were no oil, gas or pipeline profits to be had from the Israeli presence in the middle east there would be no Israel.

Posted by: snake | Dec 12 2023 20:10 utc | 99

Again, it’s clear a few missed the important news and info contained in “More Crooke & Escobar on Palestine and the Big Picture”, particularly the point made by Crooke about the aim of Russia’s diplomacy–to prevent a wider war. Failure to understand that critical point clearly exists and needs correction.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2023 20:11 utc | 100

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