Baby Jesus under the rubble!
I find this video snippet of AlJazeera worth to be forwarded in social networks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxFl_pd_bE
“If baby Jesus were to be born again, he’d be born in the rubble in Gaza ….and once again persecuted by the ‘chosen ones’.”

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2023 10:12 utc | 4

The disgusting Western Media is so dedicated to making stuff up about “Israel’s (non-existent) right to self-defense” that it has completely ‘forgotten’ that mass-murdering civilians to achieve a political goal, as “Israel” is doing, is the quintessential definition of TERRORISM.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 6 2023 10:37 utc | 6

Augusto Pi posting @ 11:16
An utterly shameful screed. So much for the attorney defending the undefendable. What amazes me is that Reuters itself has actually resorted to telling the truth about the situation in Gaza. That revelation is equivalent to a journalistic earthquake. Truth will always out…even while there are those who desperately defend the murderers and liars.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 6 2023 11:29 utc | 8

looks like Yemeni Ansarallah hit some targets again …
https://t.me/s/CumtaAlertsEnglishChannel

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2023 11:40 utc | 10

I am quite impressed by the in-your-face attitude of Israel with regard to the destruction they are causing. We are shown all kinds of drone videos showing entire apartment complexes being leveled by an enormous bomb of some kind, bunker busters exploding deep underground with blast coming from manhole covers distributed around the center of the target. The destruction is really phenomenal! Seems like they are trying to erase all signs of civilization and restore to pre-human settings.
And Hasbara has hired even more full time workers who have to attack Harvard for not following the Israeli narrative and now all these allegations of rape. According to CNN and other talking heads, Hamas fighters took time to rape many women before shooting them in the head. Apparently there are no surviving rape victims in Israel.
I like the line about those who permit murder and do nothing to stop it are as guilty as those who actually do it. So where does that put us? If we are not actively opposing genocide, does that make us complicit as well?

Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 6 2023 11:42 utc | 12

‘If we are not actively opposing genocide, does that make us complicit as well?’ — dan of steele
We can now retire the long-running debate about why ‘good Germans’ failed to speak up against Hitler’s excesses: today ‘good Americans’ look away from clear, real-time evidence that their munitions are being used in the cynical slaughter of an urban population, by a phony ‘ally’ which they lavishly subsidize.
‘Good Germans’ were innocent Boy Scouts, compared to today’s patently complicit ‘good Americans.’

Posted by: Jim H | Dec 6 2023 11:59 utc | 14

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Dec 6 2023 11:16 utc | 10
It was obvious from the get go that your tolerance of child genocide you possess a soul; now reading your tawdry prose one can also confirm that you that you also lack a brain.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 12:25 utc | 16

What position have the Chinese taken on the destruction of Gaza?
The Chinese have extensive investment in Israel, and Israelis have been planning for at least 15 years to ally with China when the US hegemony takes its last gasp.
With regard to b’s later posting, regarding failure of Elensky’s call to US Senate: that sounds like part of the grand plan and reminiscent of the schemes in WWI-WWII : create a “land without a people” for people who want the land, then scare the crap out of sheeple that the PTB need to migrate to that land.
These two genocides are working hand-in-glove.

Posted by: ChasMark | Dec 6 2023 12:31 utc | 18

I wake up,
It’s dark and cold outside, bathroom, coffee, grilled toasts w butter.
On the smartphone: “they” – the chosen victims – bombed Gaza again … killed scores … burnt kiddos en masse …
Coffee’s delicious, toasts crunchy … snow gorgeously shinning under rising sun , trees bending graciously under the weight …
How could I not be guilty?

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Dec 6 2023 12:51 utc | 20

Middle East Eye reports:
After five days of intense Israeli attacks in western Gaza City, tanks retreated from some of the residential areas they have been attacking since the end of the truce on Friday.
In their wake, they have left widespread destruction and death.
Mohammad al-Hajjar, an MEE contributor, was trapped at home with his family, like many Palestinians in the city.
He said anyone who dared to move was immediately targeted with gunfire from tanks and drones. For five days, it was so quiet in the neighbourhood that you would be able to hear a pin drop, he said.
“When someone shouted ‘God is great’ in defiance, the house he was in was shelled,” Hajjar recounted.
“We tried to keep silent and avoid windows as much as possible.”
On Wednesday morning, the Israeli tanks retreated for a distance of about 300 metres, without explanation. Families, coming out after five days of siege, are now assessing the extent of the damage left behind.
Hajjar says he saw three bodies strewn on his street when he stepped out to dump the rubbish for the first time in days.
“One of them was shot about 20 metres from my house,” Hajjar said.
People who attempted to flee amid the attacks were shot, he added, with some escaping the bullets and others dying on the spot.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 6 2023 13:06 utc | 22

Crooke is a weasel. Slippery and British (retired from government service). That probably says it all.
Posted by: Joey | Dec 6 2023 12:25 utc | 19
Mr. Crooke is well read, a successful diplomat , massive experience in the ME -as well he speaks carefully and thoughtfully. .
Your weak, vapid ad hominin attack on the man only illustrates your own intellectual inadequacies.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 12:32 utc | 26
Analyse your blurt. The first is correct.Indeed he speaks carefully and thoughtfully and convincingly to you. So was Laurence (of Arabia)-thoughtful and convincing. Also British. Try to use your intelligence if you have any. Look, try to at least, beyond the expressed opinion for the implied and purposely omitted. Maybe that is beyond your imagination level.
The second para in your comment applies exactly to you.
Only the western opinion counts. The rest have to obey.

Posted by: Joey | Dec 6 2023 13:19 utc | 24

In line with your comment #23, Ciaran:
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/12/06/not-a-penny-nor-a-bullet-off-the-table/
The U.S. vice president, secretary of state and defense secretary are using unusually blunt language against Israel’s massacres of Palestinians. But the money and weapons keep flowing, says Joe Lauria.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 6 2023 14:34 utc | 26

https://english.almanar.com.lb/1995842
A church in Bethlehem has created a nativity scene resembling the situation in war-torn Gaza, as Christmas this year approaches amid brutal Israeli onslaught on the besieged enclave.
The nativity scene at the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church shows a toy baby wrapped in the traditional Palestinian keffiyeh and placed in debris and rubble.
While the keffiyeh symbolizes Palestinian identity, history, and struggle, the debris represents destruction in Gaza, where over 16,000 people have been martyred by Israeli indiscriminate war, most of them children and women.
The toy baby, symbolizing Prophet Issa (Jesus), is believed to represent the thousands of children buried beneath the rubble in Gaza.
“Church families met last week and built it together. It was a moving experience for our families. During the service on Sunday, some people were in tears,” Reverend Doctor Munther Isaac, the church’s pastor, told The New Arab on Tuesday.
Bethlehem is believed to be the birthplace of Prophet Issa (AS). Thousands usually flock to the West Bank city every year on Christmas to celebrate his birth anniversary.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 6 2023 14:44 utc | 28

Question:
Are all the IDF reserves still called up to active duty ?

Posted by: Exile | Dec 6 2023 14:51 utc | 30

Circumstances are making it very clear that Ritter’s view has been correct:
The October 7 Hamas Assault on Israel: The Most Successful Military Raid of this Century, Scott Ritter, Nov 13, 2023
https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/the-october-7-hamas-assault-on-israel

What were the objectives of this raid? According to Hamas, the purpose behind the October 7 raid were threefold.
First, to reassert the right of the Palestinian people to a homeland not defined by the Abraham Accords.
Second, to release the more than 10,000 Palestinians held prisoner by Israel, most without having been charged with a crime, and none with any notion of due process.
Third, to return the sanctity of the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, Islam’s third holiest place, which had been desecrated repeatedly by Israeli security forces over the past years.
To accomplish these goals, the October 7 raid needed to create the necessary conditions for victory. This was achieved by humiliating Israel sufficiently to provoke a predictable outcome—the implementation of the Dahiya Doctrine of collective punishment against the civilian population of Gaza, combined with a ground attack on Gaza that would lure the IDF into what was in effect a Hamas ambush.
The taking of hostages was meant to provide Hamas with negotiating leverage for the release of the 10,000 prisoners held by Israel.
### end of excerpt from Scott Ritter’s piece.

The same intel (Light Forces) that created our solar system know what They are doing & help whenever circumstances permit. If They solved our problems for us, we would learn nothing. Look on the bright side if you can.

“Tactica Adversa is the tactical exhausting of the adverse. Precisely, when the Light Forces wish to fulfill some plan on Earth, They make allowances for all possibilities, envisioning even the worst circumstances, so that success can be guaranteed even under the worst conditions. … Thus, from the worst is derived a benefit. When such tactics are applied, the enemies often contribute to the success. – Helena Roerich, LHR I, p 448
“We think, and our leaders think, that we can go on in the old ways, exactly as we have done — more competition, more greed, more of the same, and it will just go on, we will win. It is not so any longer; it does not work. If two-thirds of the world’s population are living in poverty then the economic system does not work. If we think that they will go on without asking that it work for them, then we are sorely out of step with reality. – Benjamin Creme

Posted by: Toby C | Dec 6 2023 15:06 utc | 32

^^^ Sorry, wrong thread =(

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 6 2023 15:44 utc | 34

questions.
Should there be successful war crimes findings against IDF and Likud and leaders.. can the state be forced to pay reparations to rebuild Gaza? Would militarily supporting countries be included in having to make reparations?
If so and a two state solution is agreed.. would the arabic states especially those hosting Palestinian refugees support that and financially additionally? Considering the emnity between the Palestians and occupiers is a two state possible …when many are saying now the only solution has to be a shared state, does that increase the possibility of reparations to be used for that?
Would a single state be an “opportunity” for true reconciliation of sorts between the peoples(oh gosh heck how on earth) .. I can imagine that establishing that might need an overall monitoring supervisory body eg to deal with the settlers that Isr. has permitted.. would that be UN? Or who?Arabic plus????
The shock and consequences of reparations would have a tremendous effect of shattering Isr. and supporters delusions about an occupying state to be acting in self defence.. huge ecomnomic and societal shocks ie a possibility of Isr hardliners settlers resistance and sense of betrayal … how would that affect circcumstances? Palestine needs mnore space but so do the settlers .. and Palestine must have a sustainable economy . Refugees currently misplaced (and having more right to return than settlers to extend occupation)could return so what else would be required to enable that? Having a sustainable economy in their own state(if 2 state) would require what-land for growing crops (would he increasingly needed also in west bank).
Regarding the oil reserves offshore – could That be “awarded ” or confirmed to be Palestinian and does that only work if a 2 state solution?But if for the longterm greater but more painful to initialise “good” a Palestinian-Isr one state is agreed , does that mean the oil reserves also benefits Isr.?Or might be a sort of saving grace for them to accept a 0ne state?
aljazeera programme today .. examined is Isr. a failing state. Fund for peace (fragile states index) . Very interesting .
One contributor says that the international realisation of the true horrors of IDF etc and particularly the settlers behaviours is starting to be recognised within Isr. itself and also lots of Israeli people are leaving ..splits within Jewish communities external and internal losses, concerns over zionism rightwing theoracies, within economy at the moment cost of the war etc and this may have an effect on the government, external viewpoints re what exactly does IDF military rule buffer zones etc mean within Gaza -arabic countries especially seem very concerned about this.
Explains why there is a certain realisation or stated “intention” by USA and Isr.that the IDF actions must finish within a few weeks and USA says will sanction settlers and Isr
must control them to avoid such internal tensions are just token efforts for Isr and to keep USA funding going and salvage some kind of public relations ?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 6 2023 15:49 utc | 36

Posted by: Ciaran | Dec 6 2023 13:44 utc | 25
Soooo, who wants to be the first person to mention Barbara Lerner Spectre, the comments she made about Europe learning to be multicultural, & her associates on the Advisory Board of ‘Our Common Destiny’?

Posted by: Ffrank | Dec 6 2023 15:58 utc | 38

Augusto Pi posting @ 11:16
An utterly shameful screed. So much for the attorney defending the undefendable. What amazes me is that Reuters itself has actually resorted to telling the truth about the situation in Gaza. That revelation is equivalent to a journalistic earthquake. Truth will always out…even while there are those who desperately defend the murderers and liars.
Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 6 2023 11:29 utc | 8
Thank you-you expressed my opinion better than I could.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 16:03 utc | 40

Because the US controls the global economy, the Jews have unlimited resources. Hamas does not. So, eventually, Israel would necessarily win. But it could take well over a year.
I don’t think it’s a goal anymore. Now they’re just trying to kill as many people as possible in the hopes that the survivors will leave the country as soon as they get the chance. They’re going to move them to white countries, of course. I think we need a map of conservative Zionism supporters so we can put the Palestinian refugees next to them. They’re the ones making this possible.
It’s going much worse than the Second Battle of Fallujah, which only took six weeks.
So now they’re just going back to killing people randomly with no military objective.
They’re announcing where they’re bombing through a cellphone app and telling people to run back and forth across the grid.
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/israel-announces-expansion-of-ground-operation-to-all-of-gaza-bombs-refugee-camp/

Posted by: ld | Dec 6 2023 16:30 utc | 42

@Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 16:14 utc | 41
I kinda like being amongst various types, even pushy and obnoxious. But that is me.
I try to imagine what it would be like if everyone was white and anglo saxon,
coiffed and ever pleasantly smiling.
I think of what is said to have happened to many a white woman settler that colonized
the open prairies. The prairies were an endless sea of sameness and the settlers
painted the interiors of their humble homes with white-wash. Every day nothing but
white walls and windows open to uniformity. They are said to have gone batty.
Watch this video and particularly the audience. To live amongst those homogeneous
smilers forever would be my hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPgmIO_73DU

Posted by: librul | Dec 6 2023 16:53 utc | 44

questions.
Should there be successful war crimes findings against IDF and Likud and leaders.. can the state be forced to pay reparations to rebuild Gaza? Would militarily supporting countries be included in having to make reparations?
If so and a two state solution is agreed.. would the arabic states especially those hosting Palestinian refugees support that and financially additionally? Considering the emnity between the Palestians and occupiers is a two state possible …when many are saying now the only solution has to be a shared state, does that increase the possibility of reparations to be used for that?
A couple brief answers:
Individual perpetrators
Those found guilty in criminal trials can be obligated to pay reparations to the victims. This also applies at the International Criminal Court (ICC). The Court has trust fund for victims from which reparations can be paid.
States
States can indeed be ordered by courts to pay reparations. That also applies at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which settles disputes between states.
States that were complicit in the crimes, and their officials, can also be ordered to pay reparations.
It must be noted that all that is legally quite complex.
No one knows how these historic, tragic events in Palestine will end and what kind of a solution will result.
The only principled fair and just solution is – one democratic state. Democratic in a true sense, as opposed to the western plutocracies which advertise themselves as democracies.
The Arab states have already expressed their intention to rebuild what has been destroyed.
In my view the US/Israel should pay for the reconstruction and pay reparations to individual victims.

Posted by: JB | Dec 6 2023 17:08 utc | 46

The Empire is no longer driving any economic progress. It has degenerated into empty brands and logos
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 6 2023 17:08 utc | 45
You underestimate the power of onlyfans, tinder and X …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 6 2023 17:34 utc | 48

U.N chief Guetterez invokes article 99:
https://youtu.be/fHHPepOmOb4?si=5MJc6AHc9OsaC_R8
Not sure what this will achieve that all the other useless UN articles failed to achieve but it sure sounds serious …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 6 2023 17:53 utc | 50

thanks b…
it is such a sad situation where the usa is fully responsible for this, and many within the usa political system are in complete denial over it… then there is the general public feed manure in the msm 24-7… meanwhile innocent people continue to die, while israel mocks the whole process with the concept of their right to defend themselves… only an idiot would believe that.. apparently there are a lot of idiots to go around.. maga – make american go away… thats roger boyds, but i am stealing it..

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2023 18:12 utc | 52

Arch Bungle @48: “You underestimate the power of onlyfans, tinder and X …”
They do seem mighty and immortal, but so did CompuServe and MySpace.
“Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!”

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 6 2023 18:14 utc | 54

Interesting article on “voltairenet.org”. It is not yet available on their English page: https://www.voltairenet.org/article220094.html
Mrs. Al Khater is the Qatari minister of international cooperation. On 25 November she went to Israel and spoke to the war cabinet. She also visited Gaza. It appears Qatar has direct authority over Hamas Gaza. A blunder from her part to speak so directly? The Israeli opposition parties which are now also part of the war cabinet, were surprised.
If 7 October is a false flag where high ranking people “let” things happen, then Netanyahu must have colluded with Qatar. Then Qatar is more of an enemy to Israel than Iran.

Posted by: Teraspol | Dec 6 2023 18:33 utc | 56

William Gruff | Dec 6 2023 17:08 utc | 45
You are right and add needed perspective.
I actually returned to this thread thinking that I had been a little too ‘flip’ in discounting the importance of the victims of these victims of Imperialism’s later stage massacre (their number is surely reaching its end.)
When the Butcher’s Bill of the modern era (1945-) of US hegemony is drawn up the paltry achievements of such amateurs as Genghis and Hitler (apologies to the Khans) will shrink into insignificance. The world that Truman and Dulles introduced is only comparable, historically, with the Bubonic Plague or the epidemics that their ancestors brought with the Bible.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 6 2023 18:39 utc | 58

The New Testament quotes Jesus as saying in Luke 18:25 that “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (Jesus and the rich young man).
Where does AIPAC get funds to control US policy makers? Blpwback from our “aid” to Israel? Are those that control AIPAC so very rich?
Who else is getting rich? And then the brutal and ambitious and untruthful regime in Israel gains WHAT?

Posted by: medo | Dec 6 2023 18:45 utc | 60

The Empire is no longer driving any economic progress. It has degenerated into empty brands and logos
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 6 2023 17:08 utc | 45
You underestimate the power of onlyfans, tinder and X …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 6 2023 17:34 utc | 48
I’m with Gruff on this one

Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 19:13 utc | 62

Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 19:13 utc | 62
#################
I believe that Brother Bungle was being sarcastic.
And Brother Gruff is, of course, correct that America sells ideas and symbols, not knowledge, resources, or production.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 6 2023 19:18 utc | 64

William Gruff | Dec 6 2023 17:08 utc | 45
You are right and add needed perspective.
I actually returned to this thread thinking that I had been a little too ‘flip’ in discounting the importance of the victims of these victims of Imperialism’s later stage massacre (their number is surely reaching its end.)
When the Butcher’s Bill of the modern era (1945-) of US hegemony is drawn up the paltry achievements of such amateurs as Genghis and Hitler (apologies to the Khans) will shrink into insignificance. The world that Truman and Dulles introduced is only comparable, historically, with the Bubonic Plague or the epidemics that their ancestors brought with the Bible.
Posted by: bevin | Dec 6 2023 18:39 utc | 58
Hate to burst your destruction bubble but nature herself is the worst killer. By far. Bubonic plague was tough but it takes about 15th place in killing humans when one factors in natural disasters. Ice ages, the Younger-Dryas period (12,700 years ago to 111,800 years ago caused by meterior showers ) killed thousands of species- homo sapiens were down to one family, Neanderthals wiped out..
Yes the US blah, blah yes mankind might kill millions even billions in self destruction in a nuclear catastrophe -some would survive. such that mankind’s self destruction impulses pales compared to the ferocity of nature.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 6 2023 19:48 utc | 66

dan of steele | Dec 6 2023 11:42 utc | 12
“I like the line about those who permit murder and do nothing to stop it are as guilty as those who actually do it. So where does that put us? If we are not actively opposing genocide, does that make us complicit as well?”
The US is a fascist totalitarian state and effectively – by law – a prison. A nice prison for many, perhaps, but we residents have exactly zero to say in this matter. YES, we are complicit. Our rulers make sure we are. There is a part of me wants to line up most of our “leaders”, machine gun them, garrot them, gut them, whatever. Good luck with that. We have NO choice. This is NO democracy. They murder in OUR name, with our money, our resources. Oh, use smaller bombs our Israeli bros, and we’ll keep shipping you big ones to replace them. It’s good for business.
Regime change begins at home. It’s past time. Sooner or later the US is going to get slapped down hard. Good. And then the ugliness will turn inward. Not so good. All these wars come home.

Posted by: oracle | Dec 6 2023 20:04 utc | 68

16:06 Al-Qassam fighters strike Israeli enemy forces in northern Khan Younis, targeting a house where a number of Israeli soldiers hid, a Merkava tank, a personnel carrier
Comment – tally now up to 98 Merkavas claimed. Slightly over 20% of IDF active in service Merkavas.
Posted by: Exile | Dec 6 2023 14:49 utc | 29

Update your numbers, this is not North Khan Younis, it’s Al-Shojaiya East of Gaza City
https://www.t.me/syriankhabar/35174
Today all fronts were active even Deraa in Syria! I think a new forced ceasefire come soon.

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2023 20:17 utc | 70

Posted by: homer d | Dec 6 2023 19:52 utc | 67
What did hamas think was going to happen.no blowback??.Very important point is that the IDF and the general staff were embarrassed and humiliated by the breach.Lower level Israeli intelligence has warned for months that hamas was practicing and planning an invasion,The General in charge of Israeli intelligence and the General who is chief of staff brushed it off. If Israel was not at war they would be court marshalled.
This is also a very interesting comment that nobody has made.
“Its about not wanting Israe to end the 75 year war with the arabs”
———————————–
Lets ignore points in which we will never agree. You seem to know a thing or two about Israel.
Why do you think Netanyahu and IDF did not accept the warnings? Do you think it is possible that eliminating the Palestinians by moving them to Egypt was the plan all along or was it just their hubris (which seems too simplistic on an operation this consequential)? It seems that Israeli’s are elated that they might finally get rid of the Palestinians, so it is difficult to see it is as a random rage fest event from the humiliation. If it was the plan, who do you think wants the War and would coordinate with Hamas? Is that Netanyhu or is it the US? If is the US, Israel seems to run our State Department and Congress, so who are you talking about?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Dec 6 2023 20:29 utc | 72

The following is true for the Palestinians as well:
Friendly Neighborhood Comrade
@SpiritofLenin
James Baldwin: “When any white man in the world says, give me liberty or give me death, the entire white world applauds. When a black man says exactly the same thing, he is judged a criminal and treated like one.”
https://twitter.com/SpiritofLenin/status/1732464430900773144

Posted by: Menz | Dec 6 2023 20:34 utc | 74

Hamas Daily SITREP
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1996480
Comment – return of triumphant tone; extraordinary video of fighters popping up 5 meters from a IDF encampment with IDF conscripts oblivious. This might be the attack that was claimed to have destroyed 60 IDF in tents a few days ago.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 6 2023 20:38 utc | 76

It’s very difficult to get why pq insists on rubbishing Crooke so much (even down to deliberately misspelling his name). Crooke is just an ex-spook, much like McGovern or Johnson on Napolitano’s show. Such people had to follow the official line when they were in post, and could only speak out after retirement. It’s no good criticising him, as pq does, for being inconsistent between his active career, and post-retirement. No doubt he was obliged to do many nasty things in post, whether he liked it or not.
The things about Crooke, however conservative he is, is that his predictions about Gaza have proved to be 100% right, ahead of anyone else. It is not a question of some grand “clash of civilisations”, which pq objects to. It is rather a question of the liberation of a territory occupied by foreign, European, colonists. How much this is true is shown by a Youtube by Avi Shlaim about his youth as an Iraqi Jew in Israel, where he’s constantly treated as a racial inferior by the Ashkenazi schoolteachers. His father formerly rich businessman in Baghdad, is unemployed, in part because he can’t speak Hebrew properly, only Arabic, the language of the inferior enemy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt-DquOSL0. The battle today is about the liberation of any colonial territory. Naturally the cultures are different, as in any of the British colonies.
What counts in a commentator is the value of his predictions and analysis. and that rates high for Crooke.

Posted by: Laguerre | Dec 6 2023 21:07 utc | 78

Thank you for bringing out the truth b

Posted by: Fadi | Dec 6 2023 21:15 utc | 80

Reuters has a posting title I find interesting
Saudi Arabia urges US restraint as Houthis attack ships in Red Sea
the sub title

Saudi Arabia has asked the United States to show restraint in responding to attacks by Yemen’s Houthis against ships in the Red Sea, two sources familiar with Saudi thinking said, as Riyadh seeks to contain spillover

Wasn’t Saudi Arabia fighting the Houthis within this past year?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 6 2023 21:19 utc | 82

Wasn’t Saudi Arabia fighting the Houthis within this past year?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 6 2023 21:19 utc | 82
Yemen has been a target because US UK want to control both ends of the Red Sea. Sisi is already in place and will be in place for another decade if a reform goes through as planned. He is really the #1 rotten apple in this whole thing after the NATOstan powers. Yemen has resisted.
The fact that it was always referred to as “Saudi led” intervention told me it was categorically never a Saudi “led” thing. UK / UK picked the targets in Yemen, provided and maintained the equipment, the Saudis / UAE were told to pay up and fly. It started before MbS was in charge, he put an end to it.
The assistance was requested by Hadi who was some sort of UK US stooge. “Internationally recognized” for me means stooge of US / UK and not supported by local people.
I suppose Saudi and UAE took the path of least resistance on that one. The Houthis are not technically “Iran backed”. They get some support from Iran but they are nobody’s puppets.

Posted by: pq | Dec 6 2023 21:45 utc | 84

Posted by: Laguerre | Dec 6 2023 21:07 utc | 78
«The battle today is about the liberation of any colonial territory.»
Many commenters here seem to have claimed that settler colonialists like the Zulus in southern Africa and the Uyghur in Dzungaria or the Han in Taiwan or the nipponese in Hokkaido (or the muslim arabs in Morocco and Algeria, or the poles in eastern Prussia or the czech in eastern Austria) have it coming and should be exterminated like [human animals] [orcs] especially if they have committed wholesale ethnic cleansing and massacres and genocides like the Zulus and the Uyghur did to the “natives” (were the bantus and the oirats settler colonialists too?).
Or are some settler colonialists less equal than other settler colonialists?
How far back should settler colonialism be undone to liberate the “native” populations?
Should the Mexica settler colonialists be pushed back to Aztlan to north of the Rio Grande or exterminated, to liberate the “native” people they oppressed and massacred, for example?

Posted by: Blissex | Dec 6 2023 21:50 utc | 86

It is not a question of some grand “clash of civilisations” It is rather a question of the liberation of a territory occupied by foreign, European, colonists.
Posted by: Laguerre | Dec 6 2023 21:07 utc | 78
Thank you for agreeing with me!!!!!!
It is Crooke who keeps pushing civilization clash in his articles and book (less so in his interviews). I have repeatedly said I have no issue with Crooke’s analysis of weekly developments on the ground in Gaza. It is basic and straightforward. I objected specifically to his xenophobic / Islamophobic quote from his recent SCF article. It is a theme he has pushed consistently for the last 15 years since he left MI6.
Ray McGovern is an encyclopedia of historical knowledge, a great human being and NOT a bigot like Crook.
I would never compare the two.
We are at a point where international pressure could shut Israel’s slaughter down and I pray that happens.
I find xenophobia dangerous because in the event things escalate in West Asia, we will again be pushed into War of Terror type narratives in order to support Israel.
I see a huge amount of xenophobia in Europe and in North America but the European flavour is more specifically Islamophobic whereas the American flavour of xenophobia is more inclusive and also targets Central oAmericans and other Asians. The way to get support for war to support Israel is to play to people’s prejudices about foreigners and other religions. Crook echoes the Islamophobia that I see from Borrell, Von der Leyen and most of the US Congress. The same people who promote imperial policies then start freaking out at the consequences of their own policies.

Posted by: pq | Dec 6 2023 22:32 utc | 88

@ Blissex | Dec 6 2023 21:50 utc | 86
Desperate trollish smoke-blowing.
You can start by asking yourself: When was a Right of Return enshrined in international law?
Also, with specific regard to the territory of the USA: Ever thought of asking the First Nations what they want?

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 6 2023 22:43 utc | 90

Al manar 1 min ago
In response to the crimes committed by the enemy against our people in Gaza, the Islamic Resistance fighters in Iraq announced, in a statement, targeting the US occupation base, Ain Al-Asad, in western Iraq with a drone, hitting the target directly.
According to another statement, the Islamic Resistance fighters in Iraq targeted the US occupation base, Harir, in northern Iraq with a drone, hitting the target directly.
The Islamic Resistance fighters in Iraq targeted, for the second time today, the US occupation base Ain Al-Asad in western Iraq with a drone, hitting its target directly, a third statement mentioned.
Iraq’s Islamic Resistance had affirmed that it will continue striking the US occupation bases as long as the US-backed Israeli war on Gaza continues.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Dec 6 2023 22:50 utc | 92

Hamas has a way with the US/Zionist war machine –
ISRAELI ARMY SPOKESMAN: Sinwar is underground and our mission is to reach him and kill him.
Well, take a look:
https://twitter.com/PalestineChron/status/1732495272696000945

Posted by: JB | Dec 6 2023 22:51 utc | 94

Killing Palestinians is doing Satan’s work. Killing Jews is doing God’s work.

Posted by: Jill Kewes | Dec 6 2023 23:43 utc | 96

Sooo many hasbarats, duplicate posters, name thieves, trying to make MoA look bad for its open door policy on comments. I guess it was to be expected, as Israel probably has the largest per capita online propaganda budget in the universe.
P.s. fake james @98, probably the same person who previously posted as D J G.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 6 2023 23:52 utc | 98

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 6 2023 23:52 utc | 99
Please don’t accuse me of using multiple names, or of being hasbara.

Posted by: D J G | Dec 6 2023 23:54 utc | 100