“America is something that can be moved easily.”

December 19, 2023

The cause:

Who Are Yemen’s Houthi Rebels Attacking Israeli Ships? – Declassified UK

The Houthis have pledged to target “all ships in the Red Sea bound for Israeli ports, regardless of their nationality”. Attacks, they say, will continue until Gaza receives the food and medicine it needs.

2010:

Tricky Bibi (archived) – Haaretz – Jul 15 2010

The real Netanyahu also brags about his knowledge of America: "I know what America is. America is something that can be moved easily."

A week ago:

Netanyahu tells Biden Israel will act militarily against Yemen's Houthis if US won't: report – MSN

Today:

US announces 10-nation coalition to combat Huthi attacks in Red Sea – MSN

Yesterday:

Israel tells U.S. it wants Hezbollah pushed further from border – Axios

Next week:

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Comments

Why are the Houthis wasting time and resources attacking foreign ships when they have a civil war to fight?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Dec 19 2023 17:16 utc | 88
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Because there is a difference between strategy and tactics, and they are winning.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 19 2023 17:51 utc | 101

“Israel tells the US..”
Or the angloamerican stooge tells the US what the angloamericans already want to do.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 19 2023 9:34 utc | 1
This, absolutely. However, it doesn’t pay to get stuck on what the bossees WANT to do, or say they want to do, becaus what really counts is what they are ABLE to do. The US can certainly attack Yemen. However, they can’t do it with impunity. The US can start a ‘limited nuclear war’ but they can’t keep it limited.
The US isn’t the only actor in the region with capabilities. If they attempt to ‘push Hezbollah’ back, Hezbollah CAN sink US ships, hit US bases in Iraq and KSA and Syria with missiles and drones, and make Haifa look like Gaza.
The Houthi can sink US ships, and keep the Red Sea closed to commercial shipping.
The Iranians can do both of these things simultaneously, rapidly, and on a large scale that includes all of Israel, and can stop the export of oil through the Persian Gulf.
The US cannot prevent any of these responses, it can only react to them. Short of nuclear war, none of the possible responses lead to a win for US interests. Nuclear war isn’t a win for anyone.
One hopes that underneath the Neocon/Neoliberal posturing there are some reasonably intelligent people who have some desire to live to a ripe old age, but this is by no means guaranteed. US escalation can only lead to disaster for the US in one form or another.

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 19 2023 17:58 utc | 102

@ Inkan1969 | Dec 19 2023 17:16 utc | 88
principles… some folks still have them..
Posted by: james | Dec 19 2023 17:18 utc | 90
The principle of self-intrest. The Houthi understand perfectly well that winning their civil war requires defeating th United States and israel. The original question is like asking ‘Why are the Chicoms fighting the Japanese when they have a civil war to fight?’

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 19 2023 18:02 utc | 103

by karlof1 | Dec 19 2023 16:32 utc | 74
I see nobody mentioned that Ansarallah has said the shipping interdiction would end promptly upon the cessation of the Gaza Siege. No need for any Coalition of the Killing naval force, just the enforcement of LEGAL HUMANITARIAN NORMS in Gaza.
That was a good observation, but I am afraid that the ZioWest has no interest in obeying any norms in Gaza, let alone humanitarian ones.
They wear hobnailed boots and are slightly deaf, so they do not hear crunching bones. Deliberately so.

Posted by: whirlX | Dec 19 2023 18:03 utc | 104

‘b’ succinctly, adroitly points out that the Tail Wags the Dog.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 19 2023 11:07 utc | 11
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Yup, I was thinking the same thing myself.
Amidst all the chin-wagging as to who’s zoomin who.
this little A-then-B exercise definitely moves the ball down the field (as they say).

Posted by: Jane | Dec 19 2023 18:17 utc | 105

In another thread about the “coalition”:
Saudi Arabia and the UAE declined to engage in the operation.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Dec 19 2023 18:20 utc | 106

SOS:
What is CMF?
What are the big LHD and CV buckets?
Thanks.
As for Prosperity Guardian it is a name just begging on its knees to be retooled!
How about Futility Flotilla?

Posted by: Jane | Dec 19 2023 18:24 utc | 107

whirlX | Dec 19 2023 18:03 utc | 101–
Thanks for your reply. I’m not at all surprised to read the Chinese and I are on the same wavelength regarding this issue–to solve the Red Sea Issue, the fundamental problem must be solved–end the Gaza Siege. Global Times editorial, “Can the US-led joint patrols defuse the Red Sea alert? Key excerpts:

The interests involved in Red Sea shipping are so extensive that it is not wrong to characterize the current issues facing the Red Sea as an “international challenge.” Therefore, the thinking and approach to solving these issues cannot be unilateral, one-way, or simplistic. Houthi forces claimed that their position was not subject to negotiation until Israel ceases military operations in Gaza and allows humanitarian aid to enter. Analysts widely believe the situation in the Red Sea reflects the butterfly effect in the realm of international politics and economics, with Houthi attacks on commercial ships being a manifestation of the spillover effects of the ongoing Palestine-Israel conflict. This once again confirms that in the era of globalization, no local conflict can truly be contained within its “local” boundaries….
Since the US recognizes that resolving the Red Sea crisis requires a “collective action,” the international community’s stance on the fundamental Palestine-Israel issue is very clear. The UN General Assembly has clearly expressed this through two overwhelming votes, which call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. The US cannot stand against the international community and demand its cooperation. To avoid further escalation of the spillover effects of the Palestine-Israel conflict, the key is to return to the fundamental position of peacefully resolving the issue. Specifically, to defuse the “alert” in the Red Sea, there is probably no better choice than genuinely promoting a Palestine-Israel ceasefire.

The entire editorial is a gem, so much so that I’m republishing it at my substack.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2023 18:26 utc | 108

Israel ‘should’ve told families “you will keep your mouths shut or we will shut them for you. You will not interfere with our management of this war”‘
Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy intelligence officer who served 30 years in prison after being convicted of spying for Israel, offered the opinion that the Jewish state should have locked up the families of October 7 hostages, thus swatting away any hindrances from prosecuting its war against Hamas to the fullest.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1700759005-pollard-israel-should-ve-shut-the-mouths-of-hostage-families

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Dec 19 2023 18:36 utc | 109

The Bab el Mandeb is a shooting gallery, literally fish in a barrel. Now the Houthis up the ante with anti-shipping capable ballistic missiles. Whoever is running that bathtub coalition is not having a good day. Probably some awkward conference calls in there somewhere with clingers on claiming it to be a one-off lucky shot. We’ll see said the spider to the fly…

Posted by: liveload | Dec 19 2023 18:48 utc | 110

Yet another great piece! Thanks again Bernhard!
Hopefully this will result in pushback in a big way…Sooner rather than later!
Go Ansar-Allah!!!

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Dec 19 2023 19:00 utc | 111

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2023 18:26 utc | 105
“the key is to return to the fundamental position of peacefully resolving the issue”
That was true decades ago…don’t think they will anytime soon, if ever…they don’t realize it’s game over if they don’t.
Good post, Thanks again!

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Dec 19 2023 19:05 utc | 112

” A Swastika or Hexagram in India means something different than a Swastika or Hexagram in Nazi Germany, Zionist Israel, Zionist Occupied Palestine, Islamist Occupied Iran, … different paradigms of meaning. same form.)”
Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 16:58 utc | 83
in 2009 I was in Syria in Aleppo. My friend -hew works in Riyadhand I went to a local museum and saw a cemetery stone with a Swastika that our guide told us was 7,500 year old.
Later we want to a Catholic church that was financed by Theodosius the Great in 380. The monk, who spoke good English , gave us a tour of the small, but elegant church and he bragged that there had been a Mass held there for 52,000 consecutive Sundays.
After that we retired to the Hotel Baron that Lawrence the Great stayed at in 1917; along with Pasha Kemal , Nassar and De Gaulle had also stayed there. We had a few drinks and declared it a wonderful day.
Four years later when I was watching TV in Canada during the ISIS assaults on Aleppo I noticed that the church was gone-destroyed by the US/Israel (Saudi too I think) sponsored ISIS.
All the shit that had gone on in the Levant in the last 1,700 years and now it was gone.
I felt like crying.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 19 2023 19:09 utc | 113

https://twitter.com/Raminho/status/1736946257048842637/photo/1
Draft of UNSC resolution
They seem to have forgotten about the West Bank, are pushing the PA, and want the release of all hostages….and the Palestinian prisoners?

Posted by: Pq | Dec 19 2023 19:09 utc | 114

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 15:15 utc | 49
So we that USA is actually the dog, the bitch, the leashed gholem, of the globalist project and not the shitty colonial project falsely known as “Israel” which is not an “imperial beach head”. The parties not officially unboard are there in spirit, be certain about that.
(It is an occult beachhead. Its value is psychological not geographical. The strategy board that birthed “Israel” is psychological not geopolitical.)
People are controlled by manipulation of the mind.

Peter Myers’ model posits four major conspiratorial power networks. 1) Old Empire / Hegemony/ Credit Cartels; 2) Globalists / NWO / multipolarists; 3) Zionists – Chosen destiny as World Ruler; 4) Trotskyoid transhumanists / woke / AI.
Identifying tail versus dog might not work: sometimes Israel-Zionism is the dog other times the tail. American Empire has interests in the Middle East but absent Zionists they would be several orders lower in priority. Similarly, each influences the others – plus BRICS nations are involved as evidenced during Covid.
The mind aspect: cool. But I suggest it’s still similar: individually our experience is variously layered (aka ‘chakras’) again less ‘either-or’ than ‘both-and’. Such chakra zones are like: base survival, sexual, social status, expressive-relational, heart connection, intellectual-conceptual, public persona and so forth. They all affect each other but when the sex drive kicks in the others recede, subsumed into the ecstatic red mist of the urgent imperative!
Similarly nations have chakras/layers: base economy, community culture, foreign policy, politics, finance, arts & design, technology, military etc. Each are recognizably separate zones effecting the others with ever-cycling degrees of mutual influence, just like the four major geopolitical power networks mentioned above.
Some are on the mind-psyche levels you mentioned, others on more physical-body-local levels. Mind indeed leads body as per your “people are controlled by manipulation of the mind.”
Which is why top-level strategy at mind-level achieves victory as with the currently winning well-crafted multipolarist-vs-hegemon narrative.

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 19 2023 19:15 utc | 115

@ Honzo | Dec 19 2023 18:02 utc | 100
there is that too.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Dec 19 2023 19:19 utc | 116

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 19 2023 15:37 utc | 59
The reality is Israel was let off the leash to slaughter Palestinians in order to draw in Arab powers particularly Iran. Then Maerica could strike Iran with cover of a cassus belli.
This serves the Maerican purpose of striking at China’s oil supplies.

Not saying you’re wrong but also unrest in the Middle East has served to raise price of oil for decades by providing scarcity. They stopped drilling in the US for the same reason: to engender scarcity. (Then decades later, voila! Plenty of oil in the US again!) Global warming stories and suchlike are about to create massive electricity scarcity making monopolists rich and powerful as the ones controlling such vital interests.
What China is threatening is to provide alternative trade flow universe making it harder for monopolists to exert such unchallenged control and thus maintain such wealth and power.
That said, according to some conspiratorialists, what is now happening is the corralling of the West into a tightly controlled, isolated zone. This is the inner purpose of the sanctions, not to isolate Russia as per the public narrative, but to contain the West pending their ‘Reset’. Russia and China are also working on a similar type of surveillance state model but it appears the world is going to be in several discrete zones albeit largely using the same systems, with money still possibly controlled out of BIS. Perhaps the reason for the bifurcation is that the West, whose populations have different expectations, will need a different path to get to the same overall destination.
The more things change…..

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 19 2023 19:29 utc | 117

UNSC attempting again to arrange ceasefire. Vote was scheduled for last night, then delayed at insistence of U.S. over resolution wording. Vote was then supposed to happen at 10AM EST this morning, and delayed once again over U.S. insistence on wording.
After the first one-week “humanitarian pause” was ended, the Americans claimed they had received assurances that the carnage would be limited from that point onwards. That proved an empty gesture, as the intensity of the attacks actually increased, as did the infliction of even more cruel and depraved atrocities directed against Palestinian civil society.
Where is the tipping point? The fallout once this is finally over will be enormous. Just at the UN, the Americans repeatedly facilitated Israel with their delays and vetos, while UN agencies were under direct murderous attacks by the IDF.

Posted by: jayc | Dec 19 2023 19:34 utc | 118

To learn from your mistakes, you first have to admit to have made them. Then you move on to doing better next time.
NATO, far from admitting mistakes, doesn’t even admit to having been there. Officially, NATO is not one of the warring parties.
The NATO “Mistakes Made and Lessons Learned” PowerPoint slides are going to be surreal.

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 19 2023 19:35 utc | 119

What does the AI say, made in the west? (Faster than MSM research)
Chatgpt
”
Why does the USA support Israel?
The USA supports Israel for various reasons. One of the main reasons is the historical ties between the two countries. The US views Israel as an important ally in the Middle East and shares many common values and interests. In addition, the security and stability of the region plays a major role and the US sees Israel as a partner that can contribute to this. It is important to note that political
”
*Historical ties
>Colonial project with genocide of indigenous people?
*share many common values and interests
>The property of others, violence …
*Security
>Who would not pay for this?
Bibi doesn’t know the difference between continents and states.
The possibilities of influence are a topic in themselves.
Whether it is advantageous to permanently destroy relations with all neighbouring states in one’s own region, far away from “America”, with a superpower behind one’s back, is something worth recognising.
@b
Bibi’s derogatory statement about his most important partner is apparently as accepted by the USA as “Fuck the EU” is by the EU.
The megalomania will do the maths.
But for now, he doesn’t have to go to jail.
https://www.fr.de/politik/benjamin-netanjahu-israel-angeklagt-droht-lange-gefaengnisstrafe-korruption-untreue-abstimmung-parlament-sonntag-ende-politische-aera-90798384.html

Posted by: 600w | Dec 19 2023 19:38 utc | 120

@ Arch Bungle | 63
Get everyone involved. Everyone
_____________
Brilliant. Thank you for the constant gift your comments are.
‘… born of void.’ is beautiful. Perhaps truth arises fully in the absence of attachment.
Thank you.

Posted by: Notbot3000 | Dec 19 2023 19:42 utc | 121

via rt
“according to Bank of America (BoA), public debt could surge by $20 trillion over the next decade. It is likely to grow by $5.2 billion daily for the next ten years, which would put it at around $54 trillion by 2033, BoA warned last month.”
as Ukr bankrupts EU…so Isael might do for USA???????….debt interest going to cost 1trillion every year …”national debt has continued to mount, jumping by $2.6 trillion in the six months through December to reach $33.8 trillion, according to the Treasury Department.
The Treasury indicated that factors such as tax cuts, stimulus programs, increased government spending, and decreased tax revenues have been driving up debt.
“The national debt just exceeded $100,000 per citizen,” Republican Congressman John James said last week. “This should send a message to the White House that this reckless federal spending is at a breaking point.”
The latest fiscal data showed that as of November 2023, it cost $169 billion for the US to maintain the debt, which equates to 16% of total federal spending.”
Bankruptcies USA and EU are c 25-30% above 2009level……

Posted by: Jo | Dec 19 2023 19:45 utc | 122

Seychelles has formed an interesting coalition.
Seychelles data: area 475 km2, population 100,059
Gaza: area 365 km2, population 2,375,259
Why Seychelles formed this coalition, what benefits for Seychelles? What is relevance?

Posted by: Arafat | Dec 19 2023 19:46 utc | 123

@robinthehood, #49:

KSA and IRI just held hands again in Beijing. Does Beijing want a middle east war, yes or no? Does IRI? Does Hezbollah? Does Israel?
The answer clearly is NO.

Unfortunately, I believe you’re right about China and IRI. But I do believe Hezbollah wouldn’t mind, and Israel does-as part of their genocide project to rule over all of Palestine, per their belief of heir biblical destiny.
The war so far has revealed that, despite the unspeakable hardship the Gazans are taking on the chin, their resolve against the Jewish genocide is surprisingly holding steadfast and firm. That implies the ME Arabs as an ethnicity has deep feelings on this xeno-conflict, and not going to be scare away by Israeli cruelty nor nascent advantage in fire power. I believe the Zionists overestimated their own dominance and underestimated Arabian resolves. In a long dragged out conflict, as long as the Arabs are not afraid of transient material and economic setbacks, the Jews are destined to lose because the population ratio is way too lobsided. In a dragged out conflict, the Arabs will get the weapon necessary to drive Jews into the Mediterranean, or maybe even further beyond.
I wish China would undergo a drastic change of mind. So far they haven’t yet supply Hamas nor the Hezbollahs with the caliber of weapons to strike fear into Jewish hearts. China has them, plenty of them, and endless supplies of them. I wish they would soon make this “change of heart” as part of the change of the centuries their leadership has talked about. When they do, Israel is finished, with or without a nuke war.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Dec 19 2023 19:47 utc | 124

The devil as always is in the details.
And how is this going to mesh with ongoing anti-piracy coalitions. There still is piracy (albeit at a lower level these days) from the Western shores. China is actually involved in that effort. They were involved iirc even before the PLN Djibouti base-port started in 2017.
As I have posted in several places, one possible generational catastrophe I really do not want to see is any nuclear fueled carrier sinking with a breached reactor. The naval reactors are higher % UR235, run longer and OMG the daughter fission products and transuranics are metaphorically off the charts.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Dec 19 2023 19:50 utc | 125

@robinthehood, #66:
I haven’t read anything of the sort you posted in your #66. But I certainly hope you’re right!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Dec 19 2023 19:57 utc | 126

Al-Qassem Daily SITREP day 74:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2004213
Comment: no videos, no Armour claimed, just beaucoup attacks on IDF conscripts. Tone is giddy with victory. worth reading just to get the tone. 2 weeks ago the tone was somber, now joyful with success.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 19 2023 20:02 utc | 127

Re: Red Sea Blockade
Was announced Like 4+ weeks ago, and only now is the War Party reacting ? What a bunch of pathetic sad sacks. Pluz.
Note – didn’t Hezbollah knock out a Israeli Frigate in 2006 causing the Israeli naval forces to flee ? Do any barflies reckon Yemen’s anti-ship tech 17 years later is improved ?

Posted by: Exile | Dec 19 2023 20:05 utc | 128

Regarding “forever” Xi leadership in China, I believe Xi’s thinking is the same as Putin, who sardonically quipped that it’s ridiculous for western MSM to theorize that Putin would want to seek re-election when he reaches 100-years old. I believe neither these two leaders would want to hang onto their office past their mid-80’s. That means another dozen of years or so for both :-))).
Given the caliber of their leadership, I kind of rather hope they would stay on as long as they can move around on their feet instead of riding wheelchairs.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Dec 19 2023 20:06 utc | 129

…..Why Seychelles formed this coalition, what benefits for Seychelles? What is relevance ?……
Very Important listening post plus some other spook stuff.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 19 2023 20:07 utc | 130

Hezbollah Daily SITREP:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2004609
Comment – usual list of missile attacks on IDF bases and positions. Plus unusually a claim of complete destruction of a Merkava and its crew. Hezbollah claimed to have knocked out a few dozen Merkavas at start of Al-Aqsa Storm, but haven’t claimed a Merkava for weeks.
Tally of Merkava’s claimed knocked out is now 119. Slightly over 24% of IDF active service MBTs on 2.Oct

Posted by: Exile | Dec 19 2023 20:13 utc | 131

It is getting complicated for Egypt when you consider their border with Gaza and the latest Yemen moves. Consider this from a ZH posting

A massive share of Egypts income comes from the Suez Canal. This broke a record in 2022 at 9.4 billion USD, which is almost 30 percent of their annual revenue. If the Suez is closed, they aren’t making money.

Another complication reported in the article is that the port near the Cape, where more ship traffic is being diverted to, may have trouble handling the increased traffic needs.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t……most of my career was in supply chain computer systems and it is like the human asshole when there are problems….grin….it effects the whole body.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 19 2023 20:17 utc | 132

Resistance is defining the battlefield, Red Sea vs litany river.
Why USA is taking the bait?
Now, Yemen advertising sea mines for them.
USA coalition is going to chock the water way by its own hand. That is going to blockade Europe. It is not too bad for USA economy. Bigger than Nord stream!

Posted by: Arata | Dec 19 2023 20:25 utc | 133

Red sea ? follow the money.
Will this link work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd%27s_of_London
Follow the money as has been said above.
London is the money.
When they say get this sorted the US jumps.
I will back check who put me on to this and will thank later.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 20:44 utc | 134

Q.
@ 17:16 utc | 88 -> Why are the Houthis wasting time and resources attacking foreign ships when they have a civil war to fight?
A.
The Houthi understand perfectly well that winning their civil war requires defeating th United States and israel. The original question is like asking ‘Why are the Chicoms fighting the Japanese when they have a civil war to fight?’
Posted by: Honzo | Dec 19 2023 18:02 utc | 100
Good analogy!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 19 2023 20:46 utc | 135

“Then Maerica could strike Iran with cover of a cassus belli.”
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 19 2023 15:37 utc | 59
1. Interesting thought. Some of the delusional no doubt entertain the idea as it seems others
more delusional are not even looking for a cassus belli. Sleepwalkers indeed!
2. Respect in return. Thanks.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 19 2023 20:48 utc | 136

As far as Mearsheimer is concerned, I regard his statement as an expression of his functioning moral system.
Posted by: Moses | Dec 19 2023 10:34 utc | 6
I appreciate your optimism but respectfully disagree. If you’re not Jewish but work in any large organization try saying WORD for WORD exactly what Mearsheimer says and let me know how long before you are unemployed.
Some figures are allowed to make some statements against genocide and Israel as the “poster children of the “moral compass”. Amy Goodman, Glenn Greenwald, Seymour Hersh, Chomsky, Katie Halper, Aaron and Gabor Mate, Finklestein, Ron Unz, Max Blumenthal….do you see that they have something in common?
Btw, of this list I appreciate Blumenthal and Unz the most. They’re the only ones who hold Israel to account with respect to Palestinians without bringing the Holocaust into it, because most of the general public don’t seem to realize the Palestinians had nothing to do with it.
That way it can be said that “free speech” is alive and well.

Posted by: pq | Dec 19 2023 21:02 utc | 137

Given the caliber of their leadership, I kind of rather hope they would stay on as long as they can move around on their feet instead of riding wheelchairs.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Dec 19 2023 20:06 utc | 126
Perhaps, but succession transitions are also extremely important for a country’s long term prosperity, so there is a bit of a tradeoff.

Posted by: schadenfreude | Dec 19 2023 21:03 utc | 138

Thank you sln 2002 @ 54
For the Lloyds tip off you jogged my memory.
These are the cogs and wheels of maritime shipping insurence. The rich are heavily invested here.
If Lloyds sneezes all, all the very very rich catch a cold. Formend and underwritten by syndiates of the wealthest people in the world high risk high interest investment particlaly shipping.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 21:08 utc | 139

US politicians who take the most Israel lobby money. Take a wild guess who’s in first place.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/blood-money-top-ten-politicians-taking-most-israel-money-israel-lobby/286491/
And just like with RFK Jr. I’m incredibly disappointed in Ron Wyden. He’s been a pretty tireless advocate for the 4th Amendment, but he’s a raging Zionist Israel-firster.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 19 2023 21:09 utc | 140

Jonathan W | Dec 19 2023 14:53 utc | 45
…This time it is difficult to blame the Russians…
Nah, mate. There is never a time, and never an act, so egregious, absurd, improbable or nonsensical where the Russians cannot be blamed. They are, should we need reminding, the catch-all villains that will even stoop to blowing up their own pipelines………

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 19 2023 21:12 utc | 141

US priorities: It is more important to protect the shipping lanes than it is to protect the lives of women and children.

Posted by: Menz | Dec 19 2023 21:16 utc | 142

It looks like the war is about to kick off in Yemen over the Bab el Mandeb.
The US is not greatly bothered about Genocide in Gaza, in fact – we need more dead Palestinian babies!!!
Nothing to worry about here, move along please.
But oy vey! The Jews in Eilat have had their cheap Chinese plastic knick knacks cut off!
Holy shit! Nuke the bastards!!
War now!
War yesterday!!

Posted by: anon | Dec 19 2023 21:20 utc | 143

Why Seychelles formed this coalition, what benefits for Seychelles? What is relevance?
Posted by: Arafat | Dec 19 2023 19:46 utc | 120
It’s not that it’s part of the “coalition” but rather the US has a naval base there already. Same situation with Bahrain.
I do not know how you go about kicking out Yankees without getting toasted yourself in the process.
It’s kind of stupid to mention them in that sense. They’re more like “hostages” of the coalition.

Posted by: pq | Dec 19 2023 21:21 utc | 144

Gabr
@neomozarab
Human Rights Watch was always a US State Department asset since it was founded as an anticommunist propaganda outlet called Helsinki Watch, then slightly rebranded to appear more “universalist” after the Cold War.
Quote
Human Rights Watch
@hrw
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Dec 14
The Houthis, a Yemeni armed group, have attacked commercial ships with civilian crews in the Red Sea, saying they plan to target all ships heading to Israel “until the aggression against the Gaza Strip stops.”
Deliberately attacking civilians is a war crime.
https://twitter.com/neomozarab/status/1737082985227137512

Posted by: Menz | Dec 19 2023 21:24 utc | 145

Those yemen have got big cahonas.
The god dam house of cards will likly collapse with this red sea thing.
The US know it to.
If the US wants my good advice drop israel drop netinyahoo and do it quick. Like now.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 21:24 utc | 146

@ Exile | Dec 19 2023 20:07 utc | 127
i find your posts often times enlightening and informative.. thanks for posting here at moa..

Posted by: james | Dec 19 2023 21:27 utc | 147

” “Israel tells the US..”
Or the angloamerican stooge tells the US what the angloamericans already want to do.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 19 2023 9:34 utc | 1 ”
How can so many still be in denial, when the truth is so blatantly obvious. Who’s the tail, who’s the dog ?

Posted by: Moonie | Dec 19 2023 21:30 utc | 148

” Heck, maybe the US should also take over fighting Hamas as IDF soldiers don’t appear to be very good fighting Hamas at close range and prefer to spray bullets in any general direction any time and every time they are emotionally triggered.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Dec 19 2023 10:37 utc | 7 ”
Careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Moonie | Dec 19 2023 21:32 utc | 149

Pq @ 141
Right on que with that comment.
But oh so wrong…
Seysheles and Barain are major tax havens. so no hostages there jus perpitrators and their money lots and lots of it if not all of it.
My sincere thanks this story writes itself.
Go yemen go. Anyone remember Naz ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 21:33 utc | 150

France busy meddling in Lebanon. Another article from the Cradle News Desk links to a video shown on Israel channel 12 of a tank shelling a home in Kibbutz Be’eri. Yet more evidence if any were needed of Hannibal.
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/lebanon-will-not-recover-from-war-with-israel-french-fm
French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna visited Beirut on 18 December to meet with top political and military leaders as border skirmishes between Hezbollah and the Israeli army continue to escalate.
“If Lebanon plunges into war, it would not recover. I carry this message with great concern,” the top diplomatic envoy from the Elysee Palace told reporters.
“France is committed to preserving stability in [Lebanon],” the French foreign minister said.
Colonna also criticized “Iran as well as all its cronies in Iraq, Syria, and the Red Sea” for conducting military actions in support of the Palestinian people while expressing Paris’ “solidarity with the Israeli people” and urging Tel Aviv to “protect civilians.”
According to reports in Arabic media, Colonna urged authorities to implement UN Resolution 1701 on the Lebanese side of the border, which could force Hezbollah to withdraw from the occupied Palestinian territories.

Posted by: pq | Dec 19 2023 21:34 utc | 151

All the shit that had gone on in the Levant in the last 1,700 years and now it was gone.
I felt like crying.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 19 2023 19:09 utc | 110
The British have a record of laying devastation to cultural heritage in political disputes, in their own island. Britain is littered with ruins of monasteries. Trophies of the victory of “Judeo-Christianity” victory over Roman Catholic Christianity in Anglo-istans.
But ISIS, regardless of who wound them up, are the responsible parties for the destruction you mention. Can’t go blaming foreigners all the time.

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 21:35 utc | 152

Can’t see any benefit for the Houthis from these attacks. The situation in Yemen was tiredly reaching a compromise and now these attacks are going to heat up the situation again.

Posted by: SG | Dec 19 2023 21:48 utc | 153

Deliberately attacking civilians is a war crime.
https://twitter.com/neomozarab/status/1737082985227137512
Posted by: Menz | Dec 19 2023 21:24 utc | 142
Not when they are violating an embargo. Yemen declared war on Israel, and is embargoing it. Commercial shipping has always been subject to attack or seizure when it carries supplies to an enemy, and Israel is doing the same vis a vis Gaza, and has been from long before 10/7. The Houthi legal position is actually much stronger than the US/NATO’s, who have long seized ships for violating unilateral sanctions without any declaration of war.

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 19 2023 21:54 utc | 154

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Dec 19 2023 10:28 utc | 5
Reichsmarshall Augusto hath spoken. All bow to glorious leader!

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 19 2023 21:55 utc | 155

Seysheles and Barain are major tax havens. so no hostages there jus perpitrators and their money lots and lots of it if not all of it.
My sincere thanks this story writes itself.
Go yemen go. Anyone remember Naz ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 21:33 utc | 147
Yes, go Yemen go and I hope they stay safe. They put my country in the “free world” to deep shame. I called my MPs office (yet again) today and was told they had received “90,000 emails” on this topic. But do you think it made any difference???
I do not know about Seychelles but Bahrain is not a “tax haven” in the technical sense. It does not have low tax rates for non domiciled investors. It has either no taxes or corporate tax of 46% for those engaged in development, production or refining of hydrocarbon. It may introduce a corporate tax rate.
I don’t know if you have visited GCC countries but I don’t think people appreciate the situation they are in: thanks to their hydrocarbon resources, they have a huge target painted on them. They are always in the sights of Empire.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
There are about 700,000 Bahraini nationals, a little less than 50% of the population. I suspect any ruler who got ideas about kicking out the US would fall down in the shower and die and next thing you know some cousin of his who was studying in the District of Corruption is the next ruler.
Bahrain has had a US base since 1947 and did not even become independent until 1971 at the same time as Qatar and UAE. Oman 1970. Throughout the 1930s Kuwaitis wanted to unify with Iraq but that was suppressed by the British with “independence” given in 1960. Many barflies are older than these countries. Their rulers spread the wealth around: the citizens have housing, jobs, education, healthcare. They may be “repressive” but they are expected first and foremost to take care of the economic welfare of their citizens. Which they do. They try to chart a path for their countries beyond hydrocarbons without getting regime changed. That’s a tough order.
I don’t envy those guys one bit.

Posted by: pq | Dec 19 2023 22:00 utc | 156

Can’t see any benefit for the Houthis from these attacks. The situation in Yemen was tiredly reaching a compromise and now these attacks are going to heat up the situation again.
Posted by: SG | Dec 19 2023 21:48 utc | 150
Can you see any benefit in filling the Red Sea with warships? No commercial traffic will go near it.

Posted by: dh | Dec 19 2023 22:01 utc | 157

In France the translation of this book is currently unavailable in bookstores. The editor is said to have it removed. Guess who is controlling the culture?
https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3QIEX2T1YRM38&keywords=Papp%C3%A9&qid=1703019775&sprefix=papp%C3%A9%2Caps%2C1025&sr=8-1

Posted by: Naive | Dec 19 2023 22:01 utc | 158

Deliberately attacking civilians is a war crime.
Posted by: Menz | Dec 19 2023 21:24 utc | 142
No that is some nonsense from Human Rights Watch who have proven themselves to be a ziotool for the last 70 days. I think their very first press release on Oct 8 was fair but they quickly got a talking to and changed their story a few days later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNV_HYFdW8
Electronic Intifada’s livestream today points out the obvious Israel has imposed an illegal maritime blockade on Gaza for 17 years so how come that was never a problem for the same genociders who are so upset about Ansarallah?????

Posted by: pq | Dec 19 2023 22:10 utc | 159

Posted by: SG | Dec 19 2023 21:48 utc | 150
“Can’t see any benefit for the Houthis from these attacks. The situation in Yemen was tiredly reaching a compromise and now these attacks are going to heat up the situation again.”
Ansar-Allah is saying Bring it On!!! A thousand years from now, if civilization still exists, they will still be sung about and honored for their courage to act on their conscience as a nation united for a just cause.

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Dec 19 2023 22:10 utc | 160

USA coalition is going to chock the water way by its own hand. That is going to blockade Europe. It is not too bad for USA economy. Bigger than Nord stream!
Posted by: Arata | Dec 19 2023 20:25 utc | 130
The particular form of the Ukraine war has always been a war against Europe, from the US perspective, and it appears that the Gaza genocide is being put to the same use. The flaw here, though, is that some of the richest elements of the globalist ruling class are heavily invested in things like maritime insurance. Some of them are going to take an enormous hit, along with all the other economic disruptions caused by the current kinetic wars and economic sanctions.
I think this can only be accounted for by recognizing the fundamental disunity of the capitalist class. When the system is under stress, they eat each other. Every financial crisis leads to greater concentration of capital in few hands, and greater concentration of state power in the hands of the minions of the winning faction.
The current crisis of capitalism shows all kinds of schisms in the capitalist class, along national/regional lines, and between ‘old wealth’ and ‘new’ and the various economic structures that support one or the other. Competitors in the same industries attempt to bring each other down, and ‘weak’ players are destroyed left and right. In sum, the rich cannot survive just by extracting more wealth from the poor, they have to destroy their competitors and extract the wealth of other rich people. All these wars and threats of war are tactics to help certain factions of the elites prosper at the expense of others.

Posted by: Honzo | Dec 19 2023 22:10 utc | 161

Well Yemen has been attacked with US missiles and bombs for the last 7 years, courtesy of the Saudi government, while the people who are so much about Ukraine looked the other way.
So I hardly think threats from the US now are going to affect them. Fair play to them, they seem to be the only Arab government who are doing anything about Israel’s murderous policy.
The carrier group has been the US big stick for half a century.
Of course if GPS/IR homing missiles do it serious damage, it’ll signal an interesting sea change in naval power. All of a sudden the brilliantly sustainable British policy of 70 million-plus on an island that can only feed 30 million might look a tad foolish.
If sea power becomes moot due to satellite/gps/missile technology, Belt and Road will be the way to shift stuff and Mackinder’s World Island will suddenly become the centre of world power. Of course one response to that might be satellite wars which will make us all blind, but restore sea power.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 19 2023 22:11 utc | 162

It’s an outrage!
The Houthis are interfering with merchant ships on the high seas!!
Well, just off their coast, I suppose.
Don’t they know that only Uncle Sam is allowed to pirate Iranian/ North Korean ships and steal their cargoes?
And US poodles like the UK, of course, when Uncle Sam orders it to.
And Shlomo, of course, if anyone like the Turks tries to deliver some food and medicine to Gaza.
It’s an outrage!

Posted by: anon | Dec 19 2023 22:15 utc | 163

Pq @ 153
Thanks again for your comment you clearly know alot more about barain than i do.
I may likely have my wires crossed re tax haven status.
Are they not home to maney shell company fake company address’s (box numbers) ?
Were they not mentioned in the panama papers leaks / hack.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 22:18 utc | 164

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 16:58 utc | 83
All the world is not subject to Abrahamism/Yahwehism.
Some never were (how many Confucians in the world?); some struggled and found their way out of the trap.
During and even after the world wars (that saw zionism emerge triumphant), German theologians sought to separate a German expression of Christianity that excluded the Hebrew/Old Testament Yahweh god.. Susannah Heschel, ardent zionist and daughter of a zionist rabbi, took serious exception to Walter Grundmann’s efforts and penned The Aryan Jesus.
Her angst suggests to me that zionism (and the world wars) had as a pivot point “who owns god,” another way of saying, who gets to make the rules, who gets to define “salvation;” a meaningful life of the spirit. Germany had to be destroyed, past, present, and future, lest the curtain be pulled back on the Yahweh god.
Bibi has done what Grundmann was forbidden to do: he has ripped the mask off more than the evil nature of the zionist project. Every Palestinian child who is dismembered, burned alive causes one more hitherto uncritical “bible believer” to utter, with all due piety, WTF??

Posted by: ChasMark | Dec 19 2023 22:21 utc | 165

“The goddess holds you in her ineluctable grip” and Nemesis does what she must do to your expiring empire.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 19 2023 22:22 utc | 166

Peter Myers’ model posits four major conspiratorial power networks. …
Identifying tail versus dog might not work …
The mind aspect: cool. But I suggest it’s still similar: individually our experience is variously layered [into various functional/experiential areas …]
Similarly nations have chakras/layers: [~^ …]
Some are on the mind-psyche levels you mentioned, others on more physical-body-local levels. Mind indeed leads body as per your “people are controlled by manipulation of the mind.”
Which is why top-level strategy at mind-level achieves victory as with the currently winning well-crafted multipolarist-vs-hegemon narrative.
Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 19 2023 19:15 utc | 112
Distinct aspect of the human organism, whether mental or corporal, are not the issue. The key is to consider the idea of modality of perception, in concert, in its totality and (dis)harmonious coexistence in a perplexed being called ‘the Human Being’.
Here is a (speculative) example of what is meant by a ‘governing world paradigm’ and the psychological element (which even in a collective — ‘component of system’ — is affective at the level of the individual with a mind to manipulate, while of course its side-effects can and will manifest at the system level:
A few decades ago there was an incident of an officer in the USSR military deciding to not act per protocol and information at hand to fire off the nuclear arsenal under his control. His decision to fail to act as expected saved us from nuclear war.
I propose to you that had this had happened in USAF, the officer in place would have fired off his missiles and we would not be here today to gasp as the hypocrisy of world powers and media.
The soviet officer, a Russian, was subject to a given world paradigm that he (like most of his compatriots) had already began to disbelieve. His function however required his belief in the world paradigm of the Soviet Union. What were the relevant aspects of this paradigm?
One had to do with the inherent rightness of the Soviet cause. The other with the superiority of Soviet technology.
He doubted both. And he hesitated. I assert he hesitated because his soul was confronted with the destruction of mankind and his soul rebelled against the given, doctrinal, world paradigm of his government and nation. This act of disbelief is what saved us all. And this act of disbelief was governed by his actual world paradigm: one in which USSR was not almight, was not all OK, and soviet tech did in fact break down.
The Christian fundamentalist USAF officer sitting in a bunker or the USN officer in a missile boat are also given a world paradigm. In this paradigm, “Israel” is not just “beachhead” in the middle east. The mere existence of something called “Israel” is psychologically framing his evaluation of the idea of kick starting Armageddon. This is OK, unlike the case of his materialist peer in USSR, his world paradigm supports such a decision.
So, religion matters, and control of religions? That matters the most.

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 22:25 utc | 167

boo hoo hoo, so many billions lost
the Houthis, Hezbollah, the popular militias in Syria and Iraq et. al., need to up the costs/losses to the racist apartheid zionist-state.
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1737189549829128294
The Israeli financial newspaper Globes reported that Israeli shipping companies have lost around 23% of their market value, representing a loss of billions of dollars.
The Houthis have dropped a mini nuclear bomb on the Israeli economy

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 19 2023 22:29 utc | 168

The Empire of the West is falling down, and winter’s closing in.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 19 2023 22:30 utc | 169

Just asked Chatgpt another question, just for fun. I had no doubt about the answer, after all, the target group is called ‘Baerbock’ and not ‘Sokrates’. But I was curious about the reasoning. But unfortunately only political phrases, no rational quantum leap a la ‘Data’.
”
Does Israel have a right to exist?
Yes, Israel has a right to exist. The right of a state to exist is a fundamental principle of international law. Israel was founded in 1948 as an independent state and recognised by a majority of the members of the United Nations. The international community has repeatedly recognised Israel’s right to exist. However, it is important to note that the question of a state’s right to exist is often the subject of political debate and conflict, and different points of view may exist.
”
Where is the philosophical approach, where is the logic?
Is an existence not responsible for itself? Does it not owe this responsibility for its existence?
But fine, international law should sort it out.
”
UN General Assembly is seen as Israel’s midwifeIsrael feels unfairly treated by the UN and criticises an “automatic critical majority” against it. In fact, between 2015 and last year, the UN General Assembly passed 140 resolutions that were critical of Israel – for example on settlement construction or the occupation of the Golan Heights. All other countries were subject to just 68 resolutions in the same period.”
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/amerika/israel-un-verhaeltnis-100.html
So what use is such a right to exist?
”
The Federal Constitutional Court has consistently ruled that the German Reich as a subject of international law has not ceased to exist and that the Federal Republic of Germany is not its legal successor, but is identical to it as a subject of international law. ”
https://www.bundestag.de/webarchiv/presse/hib/2015_06/380964-380964
Will Israel also have a legal successor?
A tip: don’t use US military bases and watch out for your pipelines!

Posted by: 600w | Dec 19 2023 22:32 utc | 170

“ The war so far has revealed that, despite the unspeakable hardship the Gazans are taking on the chin, their resolve against the Jewish genocide is surprisingly holding steadfast and firm. That implies the ME Arabs as an ethnicity has deep feelings on this xeno-conflict, and not going to be scare away by Israeli cruelty nor nascent advantage in fire
@Oriental Voice
(123: that was supposed to be a joke. Sorry)
I highly recommend this video conference between former leading Israeli spooks.
“Efraim Halevy, former director of the Mossad, and Ami Ayalon, former director of Shin Bet, engage in conversation with Aaron David Miller on these and other subjects.”
https://www.youtube.com/live/hchzdcqsqKk
When I posted this the other day to MoA, I mentioned that I was surprised that Ami Ayalon expressed his shock that “Palestinians think of themselves as a people”.
> I believe the Zionists overestimated their own dominance and underestimated Arabian resolves”
Plot thickens. Per that video conference, I now understand what Ayalon meant. Zionists and Israelis always thought, as you do, that Palestinians were not a people, they were Arabs and the Arabic People already have homelands. Understand? But now, aha, they finally realized that neither the Arabs nor the Palestinians think they are “Arabs”. “They are a people”. Meaning distinct from Arabs.
Israelis have a very low opinion of Arabs but no doubt (now) a rather high one of Palestinians.
I also sensed that his analysis also included the thought that Palestinians themselves determined that since the “Arab accords” left them unmentioned — this is like Dugin and Russia pretending Iranian civilization does not exist (expletives directed )) — as if they did not exist, then they must be something other than Arab and must take the matter into their own hand.

Posted by: robinthehood | Dec 19 2023 22:47 utc | 171

Were they not mentioned in the panama papers leaks / hack.
Respect.
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 22:18 utc | 161
Panama Papers was followed by Bahama Leaks and others.
Some papers did try to do hit pieces on various GCC leaders personally using offshore companies based in the Caribbean to buy luxury real estate but there was nothing illegal about it. Most GCC countries don’t have personal income tax anyway.
The EU has tried to put Bahrain and UAE on some kind of tax haven blacklist but that is more politically motivated to restrict competition with the EU tax havens like UK, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Ireland, and of course the granddad tax haven of Europe: Switzerland.
Yet more hypocrisy.
But I hear you, personally I wish Bahrain and Seychelles would somehow kick the US out. But I feel guilty criticizing them as I can’t get my government to do anything useful.

Posted by: Pq | Dec 19 2023 22:55 utc | 172

Ulysses S. Grant wrote, “Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions”. A nation that commits genocide is obliged by law to give up some rights. A nation that is an accomplice or accessory to genocide is likewise judged.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 19 2023 22:59 utc | 173

If I were running a government of any non zio-corrupted country, the very first hard and fast rule for my country would be to trust absolutely nothing that US or Britain or most of the EU says. When they approach I would order every part of my armed forced to be prepared for attack. I would also diligently seek citizens buried within my own population that are agents of the US, British / EU government. That is a sad testament indeed. These great countries have bern usurped.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Dec 19 2023 23:04 utc | 174

” I would also diligently seek citizens buried within my own population that are agents of the US, British / EU government. That is a sad testament indeed. These great countries have bern usurped.
Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Dec 19 2023 23:04 utc | 171 ”
Would you start with a certain ” duel-citizen ” group ?

Posted by: Moonie | Dec 19 2023 23:07 utc | 175

A crazy thought?
If ‘merica is seriously preparing a war for Taiwan, a ‘merican fleet of war ships in the fairly small red sea/suez canal would present a terrific opportunity for China to decimate ‘merica’s sea power, the same way NATO has chased away Russia’s fleet from the Black sea. Without China getting officially involved – those pesky (sea) drones would all be Houthi work.
Just another crazy thought.

Posted by: Marvin | Dec 19 2023 23:10 utc | 176

Pq @ 160
Thanks for your time to fill in those details
This insurence situation for red sea shipping particuly Llyods explains the indecent hast for the red sea coalition.
The syndicates backing the shipping companys must have seen the higb risk. And pulled out of the liabilaty. Foceing the insurence companys hand, effectively an offical vote of no confidence in Israel America and the shipping companys abilty to trade through the red sea.
Israel will know thats a major body blow.
As some have said israel hates reality.
Its the weak spot that will be pivatal in their down fall.
Its all about the money not about human life.
Not about any national loyaltiys or national boundrys.
Its about rich killing as many poor and public as they can.
Agenda 21.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 23:18 utc | 177

Very Important Read, “Meeting of Russia’s Board of the Ministry of Defense”
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/meeting-of-russias-board-of-the-ministry

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2023 23:20 utc | 178

When one examines the request that the Yemenis (with huge popular support much larger than the number of supporters of Ansrallah the band of Northern Yemenis who began the fight for independence, after which amerika & co named them ‘Houthis, Huthis etc so they would line up in confused minds with Hezbollah, Hamas etc), the request is actually very simple and easy for any reasonable nation to ensure be fulfilled “Allow the people of Gaza full humanitarian access & support”. If not shipping into Israel will be subject to attack.
That left two very simple ways for the rest of the world to comply. Firstly and most simply, do as the people of Yemen request, that is to ensure the people of Gaza get full access to humanitarian support. Nothing could be simpler, easier to fulfil and popular. After all doesn’t the vast majority of humans in the world support the belief that every human is given humanitarian treatment? Why would any government go against, bridle at such a request.
Equally and secondly why would any corporation dedicated to making profit object to agree that supply cargo to the zionist state whilst it is committing gross humanitarian abuse, should cease until the zionists grok that they live in a connected world where every human interacts and has a say with other humans? If I held shares in a corporation (fat chance, I don’t own any part of any capitalist enterprise), but if I did I would be asking “Why are you at Maersk /ZIM etc etc reducing business so drastically by diverting ALL Red Sea traffic when you don’t need to?” Incidentally I would treat every statement made in the first link ( WHO ARE YEMEN’S HOUTHI REBELS ATTACKING ISRAELI SHIPS? ) with a pinch of salt, despite the site, there is something about the author & the piece which reeks ‘intelligence operative’. If share prices of shipping firms have indeed risen then it will only be because of the prospect of yet another huge & unreasonable hike in freight costs which as others have pointed out will disadvantage shipping shareholders long term as other freight alternatives become more available.
I realise this will fly in the face of what amerikan shareholders believe but in the end a corporation’s worth really does come down to what it earns, so share price fluctuations are irrelevant long term.
Still if amerikan shareholders agreed with that the world would not be in the mess it is now with the largest corporations regularly running at a loss and printing presses running hot to keep up, now would it?
Anyway back to the original contention; since following the Yemenis line of reasoning and getting real humanitarian aid into Gaza is by far the cheapest and easiest solution, why are not more people querying this current nonsense they are being fed?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 19 2023 23:23 utc | 179

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 19 2023 23:26 utc | 180

The money is the one thing that will turn the US against Israel out of pure self survival.
Israel is toast. Will they toast the rest of the world ?
They hacked the gas company bp yesterday in the uk so their mad as hell and lashing out.
Expect a false flag for christmas.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 23:26 utc | 181

All the shit that had gone on in the Levant in the last 1,700 years and now it was gone.
I felt like crying.
Posted by: canuck | Dec 19 2023 19:09 utc | 110
=======================
This is so very sad.
The Zionists are incredibly destructive and have no qualms about destroying ancient human “civilizational capital” (to use a secular term). Palestine B.Z. (before Zionism) was filled with lovely old towns and cities expressing the Arab cultures’ aesthetic and traditions. This environment can be seen on some vintage film footage (such as in films available at BalfourProject.org). The Palestinians should have been provided with the capital to modernize their economy, their environment and living conditions in their own way.
So much—almost all—of built Palestine was razed in the pre-Nakba and Nakba period. Simply eradicated—bulldozed and then the ground smoothed over. Horribly banal structures plonked down on top of the old sites, for the Ashkenazi newcomers.
Let’s be frank—Ashkenazim have zero taste.
A true Replacement on all levels.
This is surely the plan for Gaza. Just clear the rubble—maybe use it for fill to create more coastal real estate, or something. Or build the infrastructure necessary to process the stolen natural gas.
So far only the Houthis are taking action to decapitate the Zionist monster.

Posted by: Jane | Dec 19 2023 23:46 utc | 182

Bad India, bad.
” India sends warships to Yemen’s coast amid Red Sea tensions.
The two guided missile destroyers were tasked with patrolling the waters near Aden amid disruptions involving Houthi rebels ”
https://www.rt.com/india/589325-india-sends-warships-to-yemens/

Posted by: Moonie | Dec 19 2023 23:49 utc | 183

Posted by: Johnny | Dec 19 2023 23:51 utc | 184

Here’s an interesting report.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/oocl-decides-not-to-serve-israel-for-operational-reasons#:~:text=Chinese%20container%20carrier%20OOCL%20has%20decided%20to%20suspend,said%20in%20a%20one-sentence%20statement%20on%20its%20website

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 19 2023 23:52 utc | 185

“This insurence situation for red sea shipping particuly Llyods explains the indecent hast for the red sea coalition.”
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2023 23:18 utc | 174
I see the ‘coalition’ as a typical knee-jerk reaction. The last thing the insurers want is to turn the Red Sea into a war zone.

Posted by: dh | Dec 19 2023 23:54 utc | 186

Mark2@174
You are indeed correct on the fact that the whole world revolves around money. Great gobs of insane piles of money. And with all that money comes staggering wealth and also immense power and control. There is a certain group of trillionaires that use that power and control to realize their goal of world domination ( this is for those that scoff and continue to plead ignorance). The City of London, the Square Mile in particular have been doing their thing since the 11th or 12th century and are getting real good at it!
I have been hoping for years that some event or set of circumstances give them a split lip and a serious kick in the ass. I hope I see it happen in these next crucial few years…

Posted by: bisfugged | Dec 20 2023 0:03 utc | 187

dh @ 182
Yep thats why they the insurers stoped it in a momment the red sea became a war zone.
Instant result.
Compared to how long will this coalition take to put in place. Its two late there is now no shipping useing this route.
The only possable gain for US is to expand this war.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 20 2023 0:05 utc | 188

If you’re serious about what’s happening there then use this live traffic feed.
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:43.5/centery:20.7/zoom:4

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 20 2023 0:08 utc | 189

@181 Surferket
That IS one interesting article! If a major Chinese shipping Corp can save money by using the Suez then their statement saying they will NOT ship anything to Israel at all is pure brilliance!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Dec 20 2023 0:14 utc | 190

This focus on Yemen as the solitary belligerent against the Collective West and the illegal apartheid regime entity kinda gives me the creeps.
It’s almost as if the Red Sea is going to become defiled beyond use forever. I always wanted to go dive there.
I do hope there is no plan to use nukes, as retaliation for example, if the massed targets .. I mean garden guardians, navies sufferers loses.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 20 2023 0:32 utc | 191

Posted by: Johnny | Dec 19 2023 23:51 utc | 180
That’s the easy answer, IMO. If it’s just an act, he deserves an Oscar. He’s selling it with gusto.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 20 2023 0:32 utc | 192

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Dec 19 2023 17:34 utc | 95
They must be doing something right. Even their “slogan” has its own Spookipedia page.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 20 2023 0:36 utc | 193

I would just add to the link that Surferket | Dec 19 2023 23:52 utc | 181 provided the last sentence of it

OOCL is owned by the Chinese state through COSCO Shipping, the world’s largest shipowner by tonnage.

China is playing the game and winning

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2023 0:37 utc | 194

It means that factually, shipping volume to Israel is not vital to shipping firms. It’s a geopolitical decision to reroute to round the Horn of Africa. Like US made Boycott Israel illegal.

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 20 2023 0:37 utc | 195

The Yemenis can be relieved.!
Australia it seems, at the moment, will NOT be sending a leaky boat to Operation Prosperity Guardian!
I’m dumbfounded. We were “invited” to contribute by our Greatest Ally, and we’ve turned them down (for now).
Seems we
– don’t have a seaworthy boat to spare.
– Don’t want to be upstaged by the Seychelles.
The U$ bled us dry with the AUKUS newk subs “deal”.
The U$ may be scrapping the bottom of its allies’ barrels.
All those decades of requiring Oz to subsidise their defence contractors by buying over priced and ineffective war toys, is now biting the U$ on the bum.
The U$ vacuumed up all our Bushmasters for Ukraine…. stung us for another $100million on top of that….
Our peacock pollies may enjoy strutting the world stage, bloviating, but we’re a medium regional power, at best.
We haven’t really got the capacity to help “contain China” AND meddle around in the Middle East.
Our past involvement in U$ adventures like Iraq and Afghanistan were possible because we enjoyed a safe (pacific) neighbourhood.
Now that the U$ has kicked over anthills in Solomon Islands, New Guinea and wants to challenge China, Oz defence capacity is too limited, and we can’t play in more than one sandpit. …
The U$ being dragged into a protected grind in Ukraine is proving to be miscalculation that breaks the warpig’s back (maybe, hopefully)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2023 0:42 utc | 196

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2023 0:37 utc | 190
It’s a purely business decision based on common sense. The volume to Israel is not critical to the company.

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 20 2023 0:43 utc | 197

I do hope there is no plan to use nukes, as retaliation for example, if the massed targets .. I mean garden guardians, navies sufferers loses.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 20 2023 0:32 utc | 187
I think you’re safe. They’re crazy but even crazy people respect a torch in the face.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 20 2023 0:45 utc | 198

For all those disappointed by RFK, Jr.’s support and love of Israel, I can explain it very clearly.
Don’t you think RFK, Jr. knows without a doubt who was behind the killing of both his father and uncle??
In that light, his behavior makes complete sense. Simple as.
Posted by: Johnny | Dec 19 2023 23:51 utc | 180
Well, Jack Rubenstein was definitely involved with JFK’s murder. Still, I’d say its more of a fear of the money and influence of the Zionazis. But, they are carrying out a genocide all day every day before the eyes of the world and getting away with it. Maybe, you’re right. What’s one american already vilified by the MSM?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 20 2023 0:48 utc | 199

It is incredibly reckless and irresponsible for the Biden administration to conduct a military response that risks broader regional war with Iran and possibly WW III instead of just demanding that the Israel’s cease their genocide and ethnic cleansing (with US weapons, tactical support, and US taxpayer funds).
This whole affair is spiraling into to somewhere beyond insane. Russia and China are the only hope. America is a Zionist Mossad Epstein child rape blackmail shit show that engulph’s all of our legislators, all of our Executive and many of our Judiciary. And as a result, Bibi is the shot-caller in the USA right now. He declares it! He owns and controls the United States of America right now.
But Putin is the true shot-caller now. And China is the shot-caller now to the lesser extent.
Or do you think that President Trump might have seen this coming? 4 years ago? 8 years ago? 12 years ago? And do you think solid military officers saw this coming? Yeah we did.

Posted by: RLTW | Dec 20 2023 0:52 utc | 200

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