Ukraine SitRep: Assassinations, Election Talk, Language War
The recent publications about Zelenski's egomania in Time and the war 'stalemate' as claimed by General Zaluzny in The Economist have led to a conflict between the political and military sides of Ukraine:
There are sure signs that the divide between the political and military leadership in Ukraine is growing. President Zelenski, on request of his new defense minister, just removed the commander of Ukraine's special forces and installed a new one:
Major General Viktor Khorenko does not know the reasons for his dismissal from the post of Commander of the Special Operations Forces. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, did not submit a request for his dismissal.It is very unusual to fire an officer without a request from his superior commander.
There are also shots fired against Zaluzny himself:
President's Office advises Commander-in-Chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces not to publicise situation at front - UA Pravda - Nov 4 2023
Ihor Zhovkva, Deputy Head of the Office of the President, commenting on the article by Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine's Armed Forces, for The Economist, has said that the military should not bring to the public what is happening at the front.
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Zhovkva also stated that "one of the heads of the leaders' offices" called him after the mentioned article was published."And they simply ask me in a panic, ‘What should I report to my leader? Are we really at a stalemate?’. Are we trying to achieve this effect with this article?", the President’s Office representative said.
Zaluzny is seen as a potential candidate for president should the Ukraine decide to hold elections.
He recently 'liked' (in Russian) a Facebook post by the ex-adviser to the president Alexey Arestovich, who is now a public critic of the Zelenski regime. Arestovich has reportedly moved to Austria out of fear of being arrested or worse. He is also a well known potential presidential candidate.
Yesterday an aide to General Zaluzny was killed by what seems to have been a package bomb:
Major Hennadiy Chastyakov, who served as an assistant to Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valerii Zaluzhnyi, has died in an explosion while celebrating his birthday at home, Zaluzhnyi said in a Telegram post on Nov. 6.“Today, under tragic circumstances, my assistant and close friend, Major Hennadiy Chastyakov, died surrounded by his family, celebrating his Birthday,” said Zaluzhnyi.
“An unknown explosive device went off in one of the [birthday] presents.”
Before Zaluzny stepped in the police had claimed that the present contained whiskey and hand grenades and that one exploded after the major played with it.
Zaluzny's version sounds more plausible. He will understand the assassination of his aide as the personal warning that it seemed to have been.
Another of yesterday's news item from Ukraine said that the parliament was preparing a law (in Russian) for a presidential election in March 2024.
Hours later, during his evening video address, Zelenski rejected any further talk about it:
President Volodymyr Zelensky rejected the idea of presidential elections in Ukraine next year, labeling the topic as “irresponsible” in his video address posted on Nov. 6.“I believe that now is not the right time for elections. And if we need to put an end to a political dispute and continue to work in unity, there are structures in the state that are capable of putting an end to it and giving society all the necessary answers. So that there is no room left for conflicts and someone else's game against Ukraine.”
Questions around corruption, fair mobilization, and democratic governance have captured the national discourse in Ukraine in recent months, leading some to speculate about the electoral process.
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Earlier Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said that Zelensky is considering holding elections as scheduled in the spring of 2024. "We are not closing this page. The president of Ukraine is considering and weighing the different pros and cons," Kuleba said during an online appearance at the World Policy Conference.
Zelenski may not have the last word in this.
There has been pressure from Ukraine's supporters to hold elections despite the continuing war:
Despite Russia’s war in Ukraine and a nationwide state of martial law, some Western politicians are pushing the government in Kyiv to hold parliamentary and presidential elections — a prospect that has left many Ukrainian officials scratching their heads.The proposal — initially floated by Tiny Kox, the Dutch head of the Council of Europe’s Parliamentary Assembly — was also pressed by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), during a visit to Kyiv last month with Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), which otherwise focused on solidifying U.S. assistance and bipartisan support for Ukraine.
Other Republicans have also taken up the cause, including conservative commentator Tucker Carlson, who falsely accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky of canceling elections. Ukraine’s constitution prohibits elections under martial law.
The Ukrainian constitution prohibits parliament elections under martial law, but not presidential ones. Presidential elections are prohibited under martial law only by that law itself. A simple majority in parliament could change it.
Zelenski had planned for elections to appease his western supporters. But after his clash with Zaluzny and Arestovich, both plausible candidates, he seems to have gotten could feet and called them off.
The U.S. Congress could make aid to Ukraine conditional. Elections would have to be held in Ukraine for it to get any more money. The White House, getting tired of Zelenski, may also want to press for change.
I for one believe that we have not heard the last words on this.
There is more internal strife in Ukraine.
Irina Farion, a former parliament member for the fascist Svoboda party, has criticized the fascists of the Azov brigade for speaking in Russian instead of Ukrainian language (machine translation):
"What prevents you guys, if you are so "powerful", and you are then very smart, what prevents you from fulfilling the 29th article of the law on the Armed Forces? Do you guys know what discipline is in the army? If there is no discipline in the army, then there is no army - it is a rabble then. I can't call them Ukrainians if they don't speak Ukrainian. Then let them call themselves Russians. Why are they so stunned? Why did it come together in Ukrainian? They are such great patriots, show your patriotism - learn the language of Taras Shevchenko, " the ex-MP said.Social media users were outraged by these words of Farion. In particular, TikTok publishes a video of how the military responds to the Lviv resident.
Azov's original roots are in the soccer hooligan scene of Karkiv, a Russian speaking city in north-east Ukraine. Many of its soldiers in its brigade come from the Russian speaking east.
Several Azov brigade members responded (vid) - in Russian of course - and with quite harsh language.
Posted by b on November 7, 2023 at 11:08 UTC | Permalink
next page »Zelensky cannot afford to hold elections as polls conducted on behalf of the Office of the President show that Zelensky will lose to Zaluzhny, Ermak (the real power behind the throne) wants Zaluzhny to publically renounce running for office or enter politics.
Zaluzhny refused. Insider Ukrainian TG state that the assassination was ordered by Ermak as a message to Zaluzhny.
The US is backing Zaluzhny hence the flurry of negative articles against Zelensky to weaken him in preparation of the 2024 elections. Seeing that the Russians won’t kill Zelensky, the only way to smoothly remove him is through elections.
Question is what does Zaluzhny do now? If he lets this slide he’s as good as finished as Ermak is busy replacing other military personnel seen as too close to Zaluzhny.
The list of reasons why Zelensky will lose the election (hence his refusal to hold it) is quite long:
Andrey Borisovich, if you already have to comment and pump up messages and accents, then “they” are succeeding, and your media strategy is a fiasco.The head of the OP Andrey Ermak said:
“This is what the Russian enemy is doing now. They did this more than 100 years ago (referring to the split of the UPR, which ceased to exist, and Ukraine was “captured” by the Red Army). We understand every step they take. They will not succeed.”
Ermak probably forgot that Bankova, with its rash actions and greed, is itself splitting the country. The Kremlin doesn’t need to do anything; you office idiots are doing much better.
Well for example:
- the language case was started by you - office workers.
- historical and cultural squabbles were started by office
- a case of injustice, when those around Ze can do everything, but the rest are lawful. Launched by Bankovaya
- unlimited mobilization is ZeErmak’s idea
- bestial attitude towards relatives of fallen soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - idea of the OP
- consider Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers their slaves
- intrigues and redistribution of power during the war. Plus, clearing out everyone who interfered with them and protecting “their own.”
- they sent opposition military battalion commanders/officers/soldiers to zero and into the Bakhmutov meat grinder with the hope that they would remain there forever.This list can be continued for a long time.
Andrey Borisovich stop considering the people as cattle and himself as the almighty “Richelieu”...
https://t.me/legitimniy/16655
Posted by: Down South | Nov 7 2023 11:40 utc | 2
Sounds to me like Ukraine is currently a perfect candidate for accession to the EU and to join NATO! [sarcasm]
Posted by: JohnH | Nov 7 2023 12:30 utc | 3
Regarding the language war, note that all these recent incidents involve women and women are notoriously emotional creatures. What is happening is that the scales are starting to fall from people's eyes, propaganda is no longer working, ordinary west Ukrainians are starting to see the truth. And the result is emotional turmoil. In women, this manifests as hysteria. Expect to see more and more of these hysterical meltdowns among Ukrainian women, especially in among the former true believers. The more fanatic they were, the more hysterical as their belief system is challenged.
Posted by: anonposter | Nov 7 2023 13:03 utc | 4
A valid comparison is they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Posted by: ursel doran | Nov 7 2023 13:08 utc | 5
Zelenski,Zaluzny, Arestovich, does it really who takes the thrown as lead puppet? I get changing the face for clownworld™'s theater and media management purposes both external and internal, but really it changes little imho.
Posted by: knighthawk | Nov 7 2023 13:12 utc | 6
The joys of the power-struggle in a client dictatorship masquerading as an independent democracy will never cease to amaze me. :)
Come on, just make agent Z a little Louis-Napoleon once and for all , a role he never played before should please his actor side :p
Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 7 2023 13:18 utc | 7
Stalemate is another way of saying that you're losing.
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 7 2023 13:23 utc | 8
The feed is finally working again! I missed a lot of MoA-articles since mid-September.
Posted by: Thelonius | Nov 7 2023 13:25 utc | 9
Predictable development. When the in-flow of cash slows down, there is little to loot, thieves and gangsters would naturally start to fight among themselves. This is what is happening in Ukraine now. And the comedian in chief is only playing for time, to escape somewhere to enjoy his loots.
Posted by: Steve | Nov 7 2023 13:33 utc | 10
Why does Zelensky press his luck?
Suspect Boris is not returning his calls.
Speaking of wannabe autocrats:
What's the deal with Von Der Lyin - "All of Europe is with Israel."?
Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2023 13:34 utc | 11
It would be interesting to see the Azov football hooligan neo-nazis and the Galician actual nazis go to war with each other.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 13:35 utc | 12
Whoever was on active duty at the SBU's BBC Action/MI6 desk when the call came in from Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko for a believable assassination cover story needs to be sacked.
The very idea that Major Chastyakov would be so enamoured by the 'vorsprung durch technik' of German grenades that he'd bring a box full home on his birthday to show his wife, kids and assorted guests, culminating in his curious 13 year old playing with it...
Here it is from the horse's mouth on Klymenko's Telegram channel:
"The son first took the munition in his hand and began to twist the ring" Mr. Klymenko said. "Then, the serviceman took the grenade from the child and pulled the ring, causing a tragic explosion."
That's one hell of a victim blaming narrative ;)
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Nov 7 2023 13:48 utc | 13
"The proposal — initially floated by Tiny Kox, the Dutch head of the Council of Europe’s Parliamentary Assembly..."
Tiny Kox?
Really?!?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
Here are a couple of English speaking mercenaries attempting to stop two Ukrainian cannon fodder from fleeing the meat grinder - and being unceremoniously killed for their pains:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/90550
These mercenaries now act as "blocking detachments", whose function is to stop cannon fodder conscripts from saving their lives by fleeing the battlefield.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 15
Weeb Union finally provides a proper debunk of Oryx' 'Open Source' image data:
Avdiivka Update - Oryx EXPOSED
i.e, one based on an actual systematic analysis of a sample of the Oryx data.
Whereas before one might have *suspected* Oryx information was rubbish, or only partially credible, now it can be dismissed out of hand.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 7 2023 13:53 utc | 16
The Elensky regime probably took the "playing with grenades" cover story from the one Putin advanced as the explanation for the explosion that murdered Prigozhin. It is a deliberately ludicrously transparent cover story to make sure that Zaluzhny gets the message.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:54 utc | 17
Sounds to me like Ukraine is currently a perfect candidate for accession to the EU and to join NATO! [sarcasm]
Posted by: JohnH | Nov 7 2023 12:30 utc | 3
____
Indeed it is — and one can say that without any sarcasm.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2023 13:55 utc | 18
Predictable development. When the in-flow of cash slows down, there is little to loot, thieves and gangsters would naturally start to fight among themselves. This is what is happening in Ukraine now. And the comedian in chief is only playing for time, to escape somewhere to enjoy his loots.
Posted by: Steve | Nov 7 2023 13:33 utc | 10
Excellent analysis
"Et tu _____________".
Insert name of unshakable friend and last assassin to stab Zelenski.
The only unknown, will it be a Ukrainian, an American, or a foreign tourist.
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 7 2023 14:03 utc | 20
And now comes the time of rat poison in the soup, dynamite in the toilet and scorpions in the bed, until USA decide the end of the game.
I mean, I'm still not sure what will comes first:
Either USA throwing the towel and asking Russia what they want to stop, or Russian taking over the entire Ukraine (but Galicia) after having totally annihilated the AFU.
but I'm sure what the Ukrainian regime do from now on will have no influence on the final outcome whatsoever.
Posted by: w | Nov 7 2023 14:09 utc | 21
Tilting to Down South's @2 analysis.
US is looking for ways to replace Zelensky with Zaluzhny the "Mannerheim" military leader, who can eventually give the "Mannerheim speach" as has been speculated long ago.
It might also indicate US has given up on the prospect of offensives, and giving Zaluzhny full control would result in a series of tactical withdrawals, gradually giving up ground. This, of course, would probably be negative for RUAF. However at this point it might not make too much of a difference, anyway. Zelensky remaining as long as possible is probably beneficial for RUAF, and he will be at least till the Spring of 2024. Internal fighting is also beneficial.
On a more general perspective, worsening prospects and decreasing cash flow in Ukraine can only increase the infighting, and there will be other interest groups entering the arena out of the shadows. All this increases the possibility of low-locality level cooperation with Russia, and the probability of Ukraine fracturing in small slices, here and there.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 14:13 utc | 22
Tilting to Down South's @2 analysis.
US is looking for ways to replace Zelensky with Zaluzhny the "Mannerheim" military leader, who can eventually give the "Mannerheim speach" as has been speculated long ago.
It might also indicate US has given up on the prospect of offensives, and giving Zaluzhny full control would result in a series of tactical withdrawals, gradually giving up ground. This, of course, would probably be negative for RUAF. However at this point it might not make too much of a difference, anyway. Zelensky remaining as long as possible is probably beneficial for RUAF, and he will be at least till the Spring of 2024. Internal fighting is also beneficial.
On a more general perspective, worsening prospects and decreasing cash flow in Ukraine can only increase the infighting, and there will be other interest groups entering the arena out of the shadows. All this increases the possibility of low-locality level cooperation with Russia, and the probability of Ukraine fracturing in small slices, here and there.
Also, corruption, however high now, will only continue to rise further and weapons will keep flowing into Europe.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 14:14 utc | 23
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
Yes, really. Council or Europe (COE), not to be confused with European Council or Council of the European Union, because "US VASSALS"®
Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 7 2023 14:18 utc | 24
Forget Zelensky or Zaluzny. This guy would be perfect as America's next puppet president of Ukraine. I'm pretty sure that Vicki Nuland would approve.
Give it up for America's favorite regime change boy toy ... Juan Guaido!
Posted by: ak74 | Nov 7 2023 14:20 utc | 25
There is no Western medium that is impartial.
Yahoo: "Trending now:
3. Israel
5. Russia-Ukraine war"
I forgot: if it's Russia it's an unprovoked invasion, if it's Israel is a "ground incursion".
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 7 2023 14:22 utc | 26
@ Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
😂😂😂
I was going to post the same ! Spoilsport.
Anyway he must have some balls demanding elections from Z. Ursula and Thomas and the Gardner will be having them for garters.
The real Biggus Dikkus’s of the delusional empire.
https://youtu.be/clYE6NNOIoU?feature=shared
Go on - we all need a laugh as the British consul in Moscow during WW2 reported to his colleague about the Turkish representative , Mustaffa Khant.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 7 2023 14:31 utc | 27
No links to original source but this twitter account is usually solid.
@thesiriusreport
Subtle changes in Western diplomacy continue:
The US is hosting the APEC summit in San Francisco between 11th and 17th November and has invited Russia.
..........
Currently up at Martyanovs blog and links back to source...
"At the invitation of the European Command of the US Armed Forces, on November 1-3, the First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Armenia, Chief of the General Staff of the RA Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Edward Asryan visited the headquarters of the US European Command in Stuttgart. On November 3, a meeting was held with the Deputy Commander of the US European Command, Lieutenant General Stephen Bashamy."
..........
The actor is now just a used condom. The Americans will replace him with someone who will negotiate with Russia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 14:33 utc | 28
There is an alternative to infighting. Just leave. Expect the ranks of Ukrainian General Staff to start shrinking. In fact expect all of Ukraine to start shrinking. Uncle Sugar has been the entire Ukrainian economy for quite a while. When Sugar leaves town there is no reason to stay.
Russia about to acquire a lot of fallow land.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2023 14:48 utc | 29
by malenkov | Nov 7 2023 13:55 utc | 18
The formula is: NATO conquests the first, than comes the EU.
The other way around will not work. EU is cynical enough and has a long history into giving deceiving and false promises. Ukraine is going to disappear within the year as a country. Wait until its partition becomes a mainstream discussion very soon.
Posted by: whirlX | Nov 7 2023 14:52 utc | 30
Please don't tell me that the name is genuinely Tiny Kox. Also not a surprise that most of the population continues to be Russian speaking...
Posted by: leaf | Nov 7 2023 14:56 utc | 31
It was not an accident or an assassination. I know a SS officer who committed suicide with a hand grenade with his family just before Germany lost the war. Ukrainian soldiers always emulate the great Nazis.
Posted by: CIROC | Nov 7 2023 14:59 utc | 32
oldhippie | Nov 7 2023 14:48 utc | 28
The fallow land...
I have to laugh about the amount of money the US has sunk into the Ukraine project. A very bad investment that has shown no returns and now has to be written off.
Some American politician of person of influence there put it best when waiting for the great offensive to the south. American investors want to see returns on their investment.
From the two different meeting in my last comment, so form of negotiated ending is occurring between Russia and the US.
Uncle sugar. thats a good term. I have been using sugar daddy.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 14:59 utc | 33
At the risk of being sophomoric I just wanna jump in and say
Tiny Kox
Posted by: Chevrus | Nov 7 2023 15:02 utc | 34
"The proposal — initially floated by Tiny Kox, the Dutch head of the Council of Europe’s Parliamentary Assembly..."
Tiny Kox?
Really?!?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
I know exactly how you feel, like watching an episode of "Archer".
Posted by: madmarc | Nov 7 2023 15:10 utc | 35
jared | Nov 7 2023 13:34 utc | 11
Suspect Boris is not returning his calls.
Alas Boris has a new BFF.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1832293/boris-johnson-rishi-sunak-israel-trip-comment
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 7 2023 15:15 utc | 36
I have to laugh about the amount of money the US has sunk into the Ukraine project. A very bad investment
Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 14:59 utc | 32
The money US put in Ukr isn't exactly what it seems, it's actually profit. Yes, the weapons sent were sent and lost, some of the money was stolen/given by Ukr zombie handlers, but most of it is just about moving budget money to friends in MIC. That new f16 training base in Romania (which starts this week I think) will suck money, very old planes will be evaluated at high costs and so on. A billion here, a billion there. With the conventional forces treaty gone, a few billions will go from EU to US each month. Look at Japan, their economy is going down simply because they're buying hundreds of billions in US weapons. Unfortunately Russia is so confused even untrained ukro zombies keep them an occupied country and manage to destroy something every day (tass.com/politics/1702703), so US will profit even more than they hope to. Add a pfuzer exclusive deal by the same Ursula for EU, and +50bn profit will appear every 6-12 months. So the money to keep Ukr war is nothing, Gates or Soros can do it alone for years
Posted by: rk | Nov 7 2023 15:20 utc | 37
If the President of 404 can play a piano with his dick why do some disbelieve the existence of Tiny Kox? (his parents must have been stoned).
Posted by: J.C | Nov 7 2023 15:22 utc | 38
I have to laugh about the amount of money the US has sunk into the Ukraine project. A very bad investment
Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 14:59 utc | 32
Unfortunately you and I are paying for it too. The US Government 'prints' the money via QE, which causes inflation, not just in the US but exported to all other countries, since most commodities are priced in Dollars.
This mechanism will continue until commodities have a non-dollarised pricing model.
Posted by: scepticalSOB | Nov 7 2023 15:28 utc | 39
Peter @ 31
Don't forget that the Big Guy got his 10%. This has been a high class grift where everybody gets greased. The constituency is massive and the payoff has been massive.
I once knew an actual Morgan Stanley investment banker. While he was dying. He told me a bit about how it works. "We do not gamble with money. We never put our money on the table unless the fix is in. We don't care what members of the club do. We don't care about bad manners or scandals. The only punishable offense is to tell us the fix is in when it is not. That costs us money. Usually this happens because someone is too stupid to know if the fix is in or not. We say goodbye to those partners. Then there is the partner who fixed us because he is working for some other team. Then there is retribution."
Everyone knew this was a short term limited grift. No one expected Ukraine to win. No one lost anything except Ukraine.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2023 15:28 utc | 40
@b:
Karkiv, a Russian speaking city
It’s Kharkov (Harkov) in Russian or Kharkiv (Harkiv) in Ukrainian—not “Karkiv.” Russian/Ukrainian letter “Х х” (H h) is transcribed in English as “Kh kh.” This is supposed to express the “hardness” of Russian/Ukrainian “H h,” but in my opinion only causes confusion, and Russian/Ukrainian “H h” is not that “hard” to begin with. Whenever you see “Kh” in Russian/Ukrainian words, just substitute it in your head with “H.” Under no circumstances should you pronounce Russian/Ukrainian “Kh” as “K.”
Posted by: S | Nov 7 2023 15:47 utc | 41
It would be interesting to see the Azov football hooligan neo-nazis and the Galician actual nazis go to war with each other.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 13:35 utc | 12
What a joy that would be. That's a war that I would support for "as long as it takes.". If it took place exclusively in Lvov: priceless!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 15:53 utc | 42
On Tiny Kox I would also add Tiny (anthony) Wiener.
I identify as Biggus Dickus.
Have to go change my pants now.
Posted by: Angelo | Nov 7 2023 15:53 utc | 43
It seems the shot glasses delivered were in the shape of an actual grenade, requiring the pin to be pulled to open... instead of opening though, kaboom.
It somehow reminded me of this humorous episode:
"Berlin airport evacuated after police mistake sex toy for a grenade":
Posted by: Rubiconned | Nov 7 2023 15:54 utc | 44
Several Azov brigade members responded (vid) - in Russian of course - and with quite harsh language.So the Azov is kind of assuming the original position of the Donbass resistance? Protesting against language and cultural apartheid? They want to fight for the right to be Ukrainian and speak Russian? What a farce.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2023 15:56 utc | 45
interesting the description of the internal turmoil does not report on the feelings of the governed public..about keeping Z as the president of Ukraine?
What result would the exercise by vote of the governed citizens of Ukraine yield if the vote were about the right of self -determination yield?
if the vote were to join Russia and Dissolve Ukraine. vs resist Russia and Strengthen Ukraine. what would be the outcome in which provinces? and so on.
Posted by: snake | Nov 7 2023 11:31 utc | 1
It's a country run by fascists who have declared martial law. If we were there saying openly the things on this thread we'd probably be get a grenade in our birthday gifts, if you're lucky.
Nobody is going to know how the wage slaves of Ukraine really feel until this regime is definitively destroyed or so weakened that a healthy parallel power can be formed in the east.
Even if the vote is held it will be another fascist sham sponsored and controlled by US imperialism. They will choose the winner in advance based on who they think might better serve their interests.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 16:00 utc | 46
"The proposal — initially floated by Tiny Kox, the Dutch head of the Council of Europe’s Parliamentary Assembly..."
Tiny Kox?
Really?!?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
Noticed that too.
A name and an accurate description of the EU elite cuckolds of US imperialism.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 16:03 utc | 47
Regarding the language war, note that all these recent incidents involve women and women are notoriously emotional creatures. What is happening is that the scales are starting to fall from people's eyes, propaganda is no longer working, ordinary west Ukrainians are starting to see the truth. And the result is emotional turmoil. In women, this manifests as hysteria. Expect to see more and more of these hysterical meltdowns among Ukrainian women, especially in among the former true believers. The more fanatic they were, the more hysterical as their belief system is challenged.
Posted by: anonposter | Nov 7 2023 13:03 utc | 4
So true. In fact, this phenomena has been on display amongst Dem partisan females for many years in the west.
It's like they just can't wrap their minds around the fact they have been used and abused by their apparently Uber virtuous slave masters. Then they find themselves alone rooting for Ukronazis and a sort of hysteria sets in.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 16:10 utc | 48
@leaf | Nov 7 2023 14:56 utc | 30
Please don't tell me that the name is genuinely Tiny Kox.Sorry to disappoint you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Kox
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2023 16:14 utc | 49
Tiny huh? Funny.
Back in the 80's I had bank checks (cheques) made out in the name of:
Hughe G. Reckshon
Real cheques from an actual bank. Lol. For our non-english speaking crowd that's pronounced Huge Erection.
... Here I am, 62, telling that story. Oh well.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 7 2023 16:17 utc | 50
@CIROC | Nov 7 2023 14:59 utc | 32
I know a SS officer who committed suicide with a hand grenade with his family just before Germany lost the war. Ukrainian soldiers always emulate the great Nazis.Not too far from where I am now, the Nazi Reichskommisar in occupied Norway Josef Terboven showed less courage
With the announcement of Germany's surrender, Terboven committed suicide on 8 May 1945 by detonating 50 kg of dynamite in a bunker
It sure is a sign of the end is near.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2023 16:22 utc | 51
Here are a couple of English speaking mercenaries attempting to stop two Ukrainian cannon fodder from fleeing the meat grinder - and being unceremoniously killed for their pains:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/90550
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 15
Interesting footage to say the least & while the fog of war makes any interpretation suspect, I guess the least you can say is the English speaking merc is directing the unit.
However, why would he use English battle commands if the other soldiers are Ukrainian and don't speak English?
I guess the unit could be composed of English speaking Ukrainians or the soldiers who killed them were English speakers of other nationalities, which would make it full on Merc Vs Merc.
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Nov 7 2023 16:24 utc | 52
deleted by b for being waaaaaay too long.
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 7 2023 16:25 utc | 53
@45
Mein Kampf hugging skinheads have never been the sharpest tools in the shed.
Posted by: J.C | Nov 7 2023 16:29 utc | 54
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 7 2023 13:53 utc | 16Weeb Union finally provides a proper debunk of Oryx' 'Open Source' image data:
Avdiivka Update - Oryx EXPOSED
i.e, one based on an actual systematic analysis of a sample of the Oryx data.
Whereas before one might have *suspected* Oryx information was rubbish, or only partially credible, now it can be dismissed out of hand.
Those data points are just 10 entries, however, even they seem to reveal a systematic manipulation and false recording of losses on AFU / RUAF side. Oryx has significantly understated AFU tank losses and overstated RUAF losses, and a lot of the records have missing basic data, metadata, location etc.
That's why if you divide Oryx reported RUAF tank losses in the tune of 2 - 2.5x, and multiply the reported AFU losses by 2 - 2.5x, you're probably in the ball park of actual losses.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 16:30 utc | 55
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2023 15:56 utc | 45
>So the Azov is kind of assuming the original position of the Donbass resistance? Protesting against language and cultural apartheid? They want to fight for the right to be Ukrainian and speak Russian? What a farce.
Azov is fighting for fighting's sake. They just want to kick some ass and Russians were a convenient target. If this were 1994 and Ukraine had still been part of same government as Russia, they would have been signing up in droves to kick Chechen ass. When Ukraine is finally defeated, remaining Azov may try to join Wagner in hopes of killing niggers in Africa. This is the mentality of the rabble that overthrew the government in 2014 and ever since has controlled Ukraine. Needless to say, Russia has quite a few Azov mentality people in Wagner as well as the regular military. Western countries also have these types in their militaries. They are kept under control in peacetime but they will go on the rampage if an opportunity arises.
Posted by: anonposter | Nov 7 2023 16:34 utc | 56
Tiny Cox really exists here in the Netherlands.
Thirty years ago our first minister visited the US together with the CEO of our largest telecom company, Mr. Wim Kok and Mr. Wim Dik.
There was a vote in 2009 on the worst name to have when traveling abroad, which was won by a Fokje Mudder (check LinkedIn if you do not believe that this is a real name).
Sigh….it is not easy being Dutch.
Posted by: Alan B’stard | Nov 7 2023 16:40 utc | 57
"Whoever was on active duty at the SBU's BBC Action/MI6 desk when the call came in from Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko for a believable assassination cover story needs to be sacked.
The very idea that Major Chastyakov would be so enamoured by the 'vorsprung durch technik' of German grenades that he'd bring a box full home on his birthday to show his wife, kids and assorted guests, culminating in his curious 13 year old playing with it...
Here it is from the horse's mouth on Klymenko's Telegram channel:
"The son first took the munition in his hand and began to twist the ring" Mr. Klymenko said. "Then, the serviceman took the grenade from the child and pulled the ring, causing a tragic explosion."
That's one hell of a victim blaming narrative ;)
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Nov 7 2023 13:48 utc | 13"
I suspect that the cover story was intentionally conconted to be impluaible, ludicrous even.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 7 2023 16:48 utc | 58
"It would be interesting to see the Azov football hooligan neo-nazis and the Galician actual nazis go to war with each other.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2023 13:35 utc | 12
What a joy that would be. That's a war that I would support for "as long as it takes.". If it took place exclusively in Lvov: priceless!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 15:53 utc | 42"
A dear friend is from Lvov. He hates the junta even more than I do.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 7 2023 16:50 utc | 59
A dear friend is from Lvov. He hates the junta even more than I do.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 7 2023 16:50 utc | 59
Peace to your friend.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 7 2023 16:54 utc | 60
@Dr. George W Oprisko
Please stop posting waaaaayy too long pieces here.
Give short description and a link. The rest is just wasted time.
Also stop to try to repeatedly post them. The spam filter is filled with them BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO LONG.
It is interesting to synthesize this latest skullduggery and cloak and dagger stuff with the situation in the US Congress.
After new House speaker Johnson successfully got $14B for Israel through the house, with offsets, the Senate has been suspiciously quiet. No sign of any bill with dough for Ze, and the usual suspects (doddering zombie Mitch, Ms. Lindsay Graham) are quiet. It does not look like they Senate will get their act together ... or maybe, that's the plan.
It seems the money spigot is getting turned off in DC. Even Genocide Joe has not made any protestations that money for Israel must be tied to leech bux for Zee.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 7 2023 16:58 utc | 62
Speaking of wannabe autocrats:
What's the deal with Von Der Lyin - "All of Europe is with Israel."?
Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2023 13:34 utc | 11
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What she meant to say is that all the US puppets in Europe are with Israel.
Posted by: Ed | Nov 7 2023 17:03 utc | 63
It seems the money spigot is getting turned off in DC. Even Genocide Joe has not made any protestations that money for Israel must be tied to leech bux for Zee.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 7 2023 16:58 utc | 62
A good point; at the moment, I don't see how anything gets passed in both houses and signed any time soon. The Congress habitually postures and preens and bloviates, but agreeing on something and getting it passed in the current political climate is another matter.
Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 7 2023 17:07 utc | 64
The Ukrainian Foreign Minister has been busy of late. According to RT:
"Ukraine is bracing for “the worst winter” in its history as it prepares for large-scale blackouts due to Russian missile strikes, Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has said."
and
"Ukrainian officials are not actually “stealing like there’s no tomorrow,” and “anonymous sources” claiming otherwise should not be trusted, Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has said.
The minister made the remarks on Monday, commenting on a recent report by Time magazine alleging there is rampant – and poorly concealed – corruption in the country.
“The information by Time that officials are ‘stealing like there is no tomorrow’ is untrue,” Kuleba stated, as quoted by local media.
“This is a statement from an anonymous source. Everyone should read the assessments of the European Commission, which revealed a systemic fight against corruption in Ukraine,” he added, insisting that Kiev has greatly improved its ways and means to “react” to graft cases."
and
"The Ukrainian government is hoping to set up partnerships with EU countries so it can continue fighting, regardless of the outcome of the 2024 US elections, the country's Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said on Monday.
Support for Kiev is dwindling after Republicans took control of the US House of Representatives and there are fears that providing weapons and aid to Israel will take precedence over Ukraine, amid the war in Gaza.
“As for what might happen in 2024, we’ll have to wait and see. But we are preparing because we cannot afford to depend only on American support,” Kuleba told the German outlet Die Welt.
“Thanks to our friends in Europe and other countries, I think we are not afraid of a doomsday scenario.”"
'Just a flesh wound'
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 7 2023 17:11 utc | 65
thanks b...
if i was zelenksy or Irina Farion, i would watch my back...
Posted by: james | Nov 7 2023 17:12 utc | 66
Here are a couple of English speaking mercenaries attempting to stop two Ukrainian cannon fodder from fleeing the meat grinder - and being unceremoniously killed for their pains:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/90550
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 15
Those are American accents, not Brits, though I might have heard a bit of Oz. So might conceivably not been mercs.
Posted by: laguerre | Nov 7 2023 17:13 utc | 67
Gerroman reports on Twitter...
The commander of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been removed.
News about the removal of the commander of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine recently circulated, but it did not receive the attention it deserves at the time of its release.
Historical progress:
Zelensky has dismissed Khorenko, the commander of the Special Forces, who was also assigned with unusual PR tasks by the Main Intelligence Directorate.
Zelensky's office stated that the president removed the general based on the decision of Ukraine's Minister of Defense, Umerov.
Today, we have learned about the assistant of Zaluzhny's unfortunate death due to mishandling of a grenade.
Let's focus on the situation regarding Zaluzhny and the signs of Ukraine's decline separately from the commander of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The Ukrainian Special Forces is one of the most well-known military units in Europe. Considerable effort and resources have been invested in the training and establishment of this unit.
1. Throughout the presence of our paratroopers in the Kyiv border area, the enemy's Special Forces failed to remove the Russian troops from the positions they managed to secure.
2. The Ukrainian Special Operations Forces were unable to dislodge our personnel from Zmeiny Island.
3. The Ukrainian Special Forces were unable to conduct a raid in the Dnepropetrovsk region, near the nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations.
4. The Ukrainian Special Forces were unable to cross the Kursk and Bryansk borders. Our Special Operations Forces eliminated them in the forests, as they are currently doing.
5. The Ukrainian Special Forces unsuccessfully attempted to land on the coast of Crimea three times.
6. Wagner units destroyed Special Forces fighters during the battle for Bakhmut.
7. To this day, Special Forces fighters are being eliminated by the military personnel of the 127th brigade (equipped with modern night vision devices, weapons, and boats) without any rescue.
8. Special Forces fighters, along with mercenaries, are being eliminated by paratroopers in the Zaporizhia direction.
Is the effectiveness of this unit truly proportional to its strength, costs, and status?
Despite the proclaimed victories involving the Special Forces in the Ukrainian media, the facts and actions of the higher-ups seem to suggest otherwise.
The photo shows their cache, which we discovered after they were intercepted.
Things are falling apart...
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 7 2023 17:14 utc | 68
A pair of BTR-82 disrupt the AFU infantry attack staging area. The first one drove by (apparently they are on the tree line) and the second left infantry to mop them up.
https://twitter.com/RadarFennec/status/1721615773544710605
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 17:25 utc | 69
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2023 15:28 utc | 40
Ukraine’s lost the most for sure but it’s also cost Russia a pretty penny, Nord Stream’s crippled (not that current German politics would permit its use), EU in turmoil, stripped of military gear, prospects declining.
The strategy was and remains the one laid out in Barry Posen’s 1994 “A defense concept for Ukraine” and RAND’s 2019 “Overextending and Unbalancing Russia”.
Posen’s has proven to be astoundingly prescient, an object lesson in how carefully managed critical geopolitical threads can be.
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 7 2023 17:29 utc | 70
Ukraine’s lost the most for sure but it’s also cost Russia a pretty penny, Nord Stream’s crippled
All Maerica has done is accelerate her decline as she forces vassal states, themselves under economic strain, to cleave to her. The myopia of whoever is guiding Maerican strategic policy cannot be overstated. They have cut off their nose to spite their face.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 7 2023 17:33 utc | 71
@Dr. George W Oprisko
Please stop posting waaaaayy too long pieces here.
Give short description and a link. The rest is just wasted time.
Also stop to try to repeatedly post them. The spam filter is filled with them BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO LONG.
Posted by: b | Nov 7 2023 16:55 utc | 61
So... make a post WRT those posts... most of the barflies don't bother to go to
such sites and wade through them...
They constitute much meat, and furthermore are giving anyone interested, real information to consider... of far greater utility to the forum than the endless arguments over what the Russians should or should not do..
INDY
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 7 2023 17:37 utc | 72
Tiny Kox?
Really?!?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 7 2023 13:52 utc | 14
I wonder if he plays the piano :)
Posted by: nwwoods | Nov 7 2023 17:41 utc | 73
This has all become a bizarre demonic version of political Jenga. Hey, let's send untrained guys in with no guns and see what happens ( slag heap). Let's lie about most everything and see how that goes. Let's flirt with assasinations and see if the regime collapses. Let's add possible starvation and famine.
Oh, still standing? What would happen if we told the world the war was futile and lost? Good Grief.
And where's the deep state when you need 'em? Russia Today endorses Zelensky ( they must be straining their ribs laughing). Like the rest of the US, maybe the CIA has outsourced assassinations to foreigners who work cheaper. The days of Diem in Vietnam are long past.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2023 17:45 utc | 74
@ Posted by: laguerre | Nov 7 2023 17:13 utc | 67
No, Scandinavians speaking English. Never heard a US accent like that.
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 7 2023 17:53 utc | 75
Ukrainian politicial activist and writer Maxim Goldarb who has been publishing important articles in German major alternative media sources is being persecuted by SBU for those very articles.
A German-language "call for help" by him here, yesterday:
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=106250
Posted by: AG | Nov 7 2023 18:03 utc | 77
# nwwoods 72
Tiny Kox playing the piano ?
Naw. But maybe the piccolo ... someone else's piccolo.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Nov 7 2023 18:06 utc | 78
well Z's escape plan was just leaked by his jewish friends: RT:
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky was supposed to land in Tel Aviv on Tuesday but changed his mind due to a media leak over the weekend, the Times of Israel has reported.Israel’s Channel 12 got wind of Zelensky’s plans and broke the news of the upcoming visit on Friday, noting that the plans were already at an “advanced stage” and the trip could come within days.
An unnamed Ukrainian diplomat told the Times of Israel on Sunday that Zelensky was “very disappointed” about the leaks, and had wanted the trip to only become public once he set foot on Israeli soil.
Posted by: gary | Nov 7 2023 18:19 utc | 80
FakeBelieve | Nov 7 2023 13:48 utc | 13--
Pulling the ring isn't sufficient to cause a grenade to explode as there remains a safety latch that must also become detached.
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 7 2023 17:37 utc | 72
###############
If they are interested, they will click the link.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2023 18:31 utc | 82
So a pal of mine suggested a year ago that the Ukrainian fubar would end in civil war, and has reminded me of that observation. Well who knows, but looks on the money at this moment in time.
Posted by: marcjf | Nov 7 2023 18:37 utc | 83
@19 "Predictable development. When the in-flow of cash slows down, there is little to loot, thieves and gangsters would naturally start to fight among themselves. This is what is happening in Ukraine now."
Big picture, it is likewise a good description of what is happening in the US and the West. One can pillage the colonies until one cannot, then one must pillage the homefront.
Depending on what terms one wants to use, it is a result of peak oil, resource exhaustion, falling EROEI. Cannibalization. Countries with a better resource base, with some degree of autarky and less predatory social structures will fare better.
Cats in a ssack as resources get low.
Posted by: oracle | Nov 7 2023 18:41 utc | 84
What the remaining Ukrainians decide to do during the coming Winter will determine if elections are needed or not. If the Outlaw US Empire wants Zelensky replaced, its Nazi terrorists may perform the deed and install one they think the Empire will allow as the Empire will want to continue keeping its hand in this conflict to milk it as long as possible. There may be some pro-Russia groups as Medvedev and others have hinted at, but I expect them to bide their time as they likely currently lack the coercive means to challenge the Nazi formations. Currently for the Empire, the more important conflict is in Palestine; so, Ukraine can sit and simmer regardless the gains Russia makes on the battlefield.
Regarding 'QE' and the financing of wars and foreign regimes:
"Quantitative Easing" (QE), under which the US Federal Reserve monetized US debt (i.e., created new money out of thin air and thereby helped to pay some of the government's expenses), ended quite a while ago. The Federal Reserve shifted to QT ("quantitative tightening"), which has contributed to the increase in interest rates in the US. The Federal Reserve has been selling US bonds, but China in particular no longer wants to hold so many of them. Nevertheless, there is still a lot of spending going on for Ukraine and Israel, paid for my having the US go deeper and deeper into debt. Inflation is in the process of going down further, and we will see if the US has a "soft landing."
Posted by: greg | Nov 7 2023 18:54 utc | 86
This assassination has SBU written all over it. On Southfront I read the idiotic assertion that Russia would have done some quid pro quo which doesn't make any sense looking how the operation was executed, the place of the murder and who got killed and wounded.
This indeed is an unmistakable personal message given to Zaluzny, by the SBU praetorian guard.
Posted by: xor | Nov 7 2023 18:58 utc | 87
Don't know if such links are approved ... but the content of this is most assuredly no joke.
Nor is it exaggerated, tempting though it might be to assume so. Unfortunately, the headline focus is on something which is comparative trivia, rather than the heavy information.
It reveals a lot about the mentality and behavior of those in the parliament of the UK regime.
Including how they are selected and controlled ....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12711071/amp/MP-sex-prostitute-Tory-MPs-cheered-on.html?ico=amp_articleInlineText
It cites what can, since before Cameron became PM, be regarded as a "hidden hand"....
Hidden in full view of mass-media, which for all these years kept almost entirely silent.
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 7 2023 19:09 utc | 88
The Russian Armed Forces used self-aiming combat elements with SPBE shaped charges in the Avdeevka area against the positions and equipment of the Ukrainian Armed ForcesMore images of this weapon*
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1721966815574696060
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 19:10 utc | 89
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2023 18:43 utc | 85
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Yes, I don't believe Zelly would have canceled the elections without the approval of his masters.
I've made no secret of the fact that I believe that Western-style democracy not only lacks legitimacy, it also lacks efficacy. No one living under a Western democracy today is watching their standard of living, and infrastructure improve.
How the election cancellation plays out may be as much about trying to reinvigorate the Ukrainian population to get behind the war, as it is about trying to maintain a status quo in the government at this time.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2023 19:15 utc | 90
‼️Col Douglas Macgregor: There Is No Stalemate-Ukrainians Have Been Destroyed*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O63Hezk_9Js
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2023 19:28 utc | 91
They constitute much meat, and furthermore are giving anyone interested, real information to consider... of far greater utility to the forum than the endless arguments over what the Russians should or should not do..
INDY
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 7 2023 17:37 utc | 72
Dear Lord can you be more full of yourself.
You're acting like someone barging into a general thread on Marxism and posting the full text of "Materialism and Empiro-Criticism."
Posted by: Tichy | Nov 7 2023 19:30 utc | 92
No, Scandinavians speaking English. Never heard a US accent like that.
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 7 2023 17:53 utc | 75
Nah, I don't think it's a Scandi accent. possibly wrt the second dude speaking but... I don't think so. I'm Swedish.
Posted by: Tichy | Nov 7 2023 19:33 utc | 93
@BroncoBilly | Nov 7 2023 17:53 utc | 752
Not Scandinavian
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2023 19:43 utc | 94
LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2023 19:15 utc | 89--
Thanks for your reply. I'm sure you and other barflies will be very interested to read Russia's reaction to the recent Moldovan elections:
On November 5, general local elections were held in the Republic of Moldova, during which the heads of settlements, members of district and municipal councils were elected. In a number of territorial formations, the second round will be held on November 19.The results of the vote showed extremely weak results from candidates from the ruling pro-Western Action and Solidarity party. And, on the contrary, there was a significant strengthening of the position of the opposition forces, whose representatives headed the largest cities of Moldova, including Chisinau.
Moreover, this happened despite the unprecedented campaign of repression launched by the current Moldovan regime against the opposition and independent media, direct blackmail of voters, discrimination of candidates on the basis of language and even a direct ban on the activities of competitors.
It is noteworthy that even the OSCE, which is known for its biased approach, could not ignore such outrageous facts in the preliminary conclusions of its monitoring mission.
Thus, the residents of Moldova gave a well-grounded, unflattering assessment of the dead-end course pursued by the party in power today. I would like to hope that the country's leadership will draw the necessary conclusions and will take into account the interests of the Moldovan people in its policy.
The Russian side respects the will of the citizens of the Republic of Moldova and reaffirms its sincere commitment to the further development of broad and constructive ties between the peoples of our states.
These are the results I expected. Here's how RT reported the results:
President Maia Sandu’s party underperformed in the local elections across Moldova, according to preliminary results published on Monday, even after banning a major rival. The local election is widely seen as a harbinger for the 2024 presidential vote.Sunday’s local elections saw a 41.41% turnout from an electorate of about 2.7 million, according to the Central Electoral Commission.
The ruling Party of Action and Solidarity (PAS) won 240 out of the 898 races for mayors or county administrators in the first round, mainly in rural areas. In every major city – including the capital, Chisinau – opposition candidates appear to have prevailed, however.
The incumbent mayor of Chisinau, Ion Ceban, declared victory after winning 50.6% of the votes in the first round, according to the Moldovan outlet Newsmaker. In Balti, Comrat, and Orhei, opposition candidates won outright as well. PAS was able to secure enough votes to force a runoff in Edinet, but the opposition candidate is in the lead.
PAS vice-chair Andrei Spinu insisted that the main takeaway of the election was that the “pro-European choice has won confidently across the whole country.”
Meanwhile, former President Igor Dodon argued that the “dictatorial regime of Maia Sandu suffered a defeat” despite “seizing all the institutions of government” and “blocking the media.”
To turn Moldova into a Ukraine-type client, the Outlaw US Empire will clearly need to engineer a similar Coup, or tell Sandu to go full-on Dictator, which would likely cause a revolt. I'd expect similar results to be seen in Armenia when elections occur there.
Full of shit, as expected. If you get elected anywhere in Europe you are by definition a fraud. The democracy has long expired, it's a dictatorship, only a matter of time, not even years, probably months, before they totally drop the kayfabe and tell everyone to shut up and bow to Ursula.
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico softened a key election promise to halt military aid to Ukraine, saying his government won’t block supplies of weapons and ammunition from private manufacturers.
Fico, who pledged before the September vote that “not a single round” will come from Slovakia to its eastern neighbor, said Monday that the campaign pledge related only to supplies from Slovak army stockpile.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2023 19:59 utc | 96
@14 BP
Older parents from European families wouldn't have known about North American youth street slang in those days so this is how you get these crazy names. No word of a lie my 64 year old brother-in-law has a wild name, his parents are German and his father's name is Ludwig Muff.
He named his son Harry, completely in the dark as to the "awesome" connotation to that particular phrase. When my wife's sister got married to Harry, the priest who was German, turned the couple around and proudly declared- let's all congratulate Mr. and Mrs. Harry Muff!! There was a few loud guffaws from the assembled, including poor Lori who was the wife.
Posted by: bisfugged | Nov 7 2023 20:05 utc | 97
Sounds to me like Ukraine is currently a perfect candidate for accession to the EU and to join NATO! [sarcasm]
Posted by: JohnH | Nov 7 2023 12:30 utc | 3
They are perfect, the whole point and structure of the EU is elections must not affect in anyway policy.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Nov 7 2023 20:06 utc | 98
karlof1 @ 94
To turn Moldova into a Ukraine-type client, the Outlaw US Empire will clearly need to engineer a similar Coup, or tell Sandu to go full-on Dictator, which would likely cause a revolt. I'd expect similar results to be seen in Armenia when elections occur there.
You can revolt all you like, they don't beat you, they simply ignore you and go on with their crimes. The French have been revolting en masse, relentlessly, for 5 years straight, Macron or parliament hasn't even thrown them a desiccated, bleached white bone.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2023 20:06 utc | 99
anon2020@70
You are partly right- the cost to Russia has been enormous.
On the other hand the game is up- any illusions about the nature of imperialism, and these were already very evident before Gorbachev, have been shattered.
It is hard to imagine that the Fifth Column will ever get near the levers of power again, a few years ago they controlled them, and right up until the SMO began they had enormous influence over them. Hence their ability to postpone the inevitable operation to rescue the Donbas and the genocide of their own countrymen. (It has always been hard for the Russian bourgeoisie to realise that the progeny of the muzhiks are their countrymen too, which is why their education, since 1917 has been so harsh.)
And that is just the beginning: the economy has been reshaped and forced to develop without the West, we are back to Socialism in One Country, without the socialism and with two thirds of the world on side but still trending towards the autarchy that necessity calls for. And Russia is almost uniquely qualified to build.
Then there is the development of the alliance system, excluding the imperialists, in Eurasia- a work in progress. But moving in the right direction.
One of the reasons why the US is trying to blow things up in West Asia is that it knows that the tide is running against it, and in Russia's favour.
And that is why, (led by Hezbollah!), disgust at the imperialist crucifixion of Gaza has not led to the open challenge, changed subject and war that Washington wants.
On the whole it was a bad day for Imperialism when it finally succeeded in goading Russia into military action- the end result is the loss of Hegemony and the inauguration of an era of multi-polarity.
Posted by: bevin | Nov 7 2023 20:13 utc | 100
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interesting the description of the internal turmoil does not report on the feelings of the governed public..about keeping Z as the president of Ukraine?
What result would the exercise by vote of the governed citizens of Ukraine yield if the vote were about the right of self -determination yield?
if the vote were to join Russia and Dissolve Ukraine. vs resist Russia and Strengthen Ukraine. what would be the outcome in which provinces? and so on.
Posted by: snake | Nov 7 2023 11:31 utc | 1