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November 29, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-288

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

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Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 11:28 utc | 101

Kissinger died without being tried and convicted of crimes against humanity. How unfortunate. Now the stain of his crimes is indelibly part of America.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 30 2023 12:02 utc | 102

Arestovich dropping more truth bombs.
https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1729928113318940758
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 0:00 utc | 62
Very good for a tangencial analysis, in both cases I’ll use the percentual duration months from start as a proxy for country population and war duration, next apply ratios to army and KIA (WWI ratios for mobilization and KIA)
The french soldier’s mutiny in may 1917, in a 51 month war.
with 21 months instead of 33 we’re at the 63% level
That gives Ukraine starting population 24.500.000, total mobilization till the end 5.000.000, UAF KIA till the end, 820.000, end of war mid October 2024
But if I take the german protests in january 1918 the scenario is slightly different.
That gives Ukraine starting population 33.500.000, total mobilization till the end 6.700.000, UAF KIA till the end, 1.050.000, end of war early may 2024
Truth is this last one is a bit of a stretch as refuseniks is not population protests, but I always like to have upper and lower bounds. If the upper but crossing events, in 5 months huge protests in kiev so early may 2024 will always be interesting, either end of war or the protests that announce it in less than 6 months.
So my previous proposal for end of war of this Christmas (with a massive offensive) or 2025 (by sheer termination of all front line soldiers) is not in line with this analysis unless we consider that some months before all available soldiers are killed anybody quits.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 30 2023 12:21 utc | 103

“Kissinger died without being tried and convicted of crimes against humanity. How unfortunate. Now the stain of his crimes is indelibly part of America.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 30 2023 12:02 utc | 102
Kissinger was/is indeed a war criminal yet was also a ‘diplomatic/geopolitical genius’.
In 1971 when Nixon was considering a rapprochement with China Kissinger, then NSC advisor , advised Nixon to do the rapprochement with the USSR as China was the long term threat. Nixon refused. Kissinger was correct.
In 1973 during the oil embargo Kissinger, now Secretary of State , cemented a deal with Saudi Arabia where they would buy American US treasuries creating the petrodollar.
Without the petrodollar or a rapprochement with the USSR US hegemony would have decreased and I would suspect the world would be a better place today.
Today the US has no diplomats worthy to carry Kissinger’s jockstrap.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 12:21 utc | 104

@Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 30 2023 12:02 utc | 102
And how to explain Putin´s really kind and friend like condolences message to his widow?
There are two things that haunt me and contradict in my reasoning that Putin, as he stated in the “All Russian People Congress”, asures “he is not only liberating Russia, but the whole world”…One is his continuos praising of Kissinger, to the extent of having awarded him even a prize of the Russian Academy of Sciences; the other is that he has trusted the whole development of the digital web which will enclose the Russian people in a panopticon of full vigilance to a former Davos prominent member, Herman Greff….
Kissinger asured, through magnicide, and installing foreign agents in charge after Franco´s death, getting with US military bases in Spanish soil, that Spain would never know “democracy”, less “socialism”, nor anything remotely similar in its whole life, but instead a corporatocracy which has brought us here and indebted such a rich country to estratospheric limits so that to keep it under the US Corporation´s boot, walking back through all these decades, from one of the msot developed countries to underdevelopment and a full colony state.
The same has been done to the whole HispanAmerica, where tones of blood, competing with the ongoing carnage in Palestine, were spilled for this same outcome.
Why Putin finds all this worthy of praise, while aspiring to become the best partner of whole HispanAmerica, is beyond me, unless what some fear and suspect, that he is all the way collaboraring with the Davos´ NWO, is true.
This is how the #USA threatened SPAIN with taking the #CANARY ISLANDS from us if we did not join #NATO [The #CIA in Spain I]
https://youtu.be/tk3vlueyRpQ?si=MCVp89Q5mfQJtSRD
King #JUANCARLOS of #BORBÓN was a US SPY – [The CIA in Spain II]
https://youtu.be/SQ_Sk8jHEYo?si=w19ZIKYbJFw6rLBT
The TRUTH about the Attack against #CARRREROBLANCO
https://youtu.be/Iu82pc4Y-rI?si=xZZ7WTnicM6JnLMG

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 30 2023 12:36 utc | 105

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Nov 30 2023 10:12 utc | 96
On Russian shovels:
‘Never The Last On. A Novel of Spetznats’ by R H.Auslander (Chap.4)
“…then I turned my attentions to the folding shovel. He was good quality, basic design, and in my case manufactured in DDR, the old German Democratic Republik, which was neither German nor democratic nor a republic. This design had not changed from about 1944. I had already quite some years ago sharpened him so all I had to do was dress up the edge a bit to make sure he was good to go. Why sharpen a shovel, you ask. Simple. Two reasons. One, a sharp shovel will bite in to soil much better than a dull one. Two, it is the best close combat weapon ever devised. Excellent weight, good length, not too long and not too short, heavy enough to do the job and light enough that you didn’t get tired swinging him…”
(Auslander used to write from Crimea and post on The Saker. I enjoyed his book)

Posted by: Another Thing | Nov 30 2023 12:45 utc | 106

Just a small clarification on 103
When I mention mobilized it only translates to a lower number of front line soldiers (reasonably soldier grade, but only barely)
5.000-> 2.400
6.700-> 3.100
The later seems a bit high but both are within the numbers of what I repeatedly assessed as meat that AFU could throw into the fray.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 30 2023 13:09 utc | 107

On the border of The Borderland:
https://t.me/rybar/54599

🇲🇩🇬🇧 The day before yesterday in Chisinau there was a meeting between Deputy Prime Minister for Reintegration Oleg Serebryan and the new British Ambassador to Moldova Fern Horin, at which the issue of Transnistria was again discussed.
Serebryan said that the Ukrainian conflict has created favorable conditions for resolving the PMR problem. The official also noted the important support that Great Britain provides in the process of resolving the conflict.
🔻In the current realities, such a meeting raises concerns, especially against the backdrop of the recent visit of the new British Foreign Minister David Cameron to Chisinau. Moreover, he arrived in the Moldovan capital immediately after visiting Kyiv and Odessa, the region of which borders on Transnistria.
At the same time, rumors spread in the media that it was the British who were actively pushing the authorities in Chisinau towards a forceful scenario.
📌Today also opened a two-day session of the OSCE Council of Ministers in Skopje, to which Moldovan Foreign Minister Nikolai Popescu is going with the main thesis: the demand to withdraw Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, whose presence Maia Sandu’s team now calls “illegal.”
As we have noted more than once before, soon the Transnistrian issue may unexpectedly become one of the main ones on the agenda.
#Great Britain #Moldova #Transnistria
@rybar

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 13:23 utc | 108

Re: Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 13:23 utc | 107

At the same time, rumors spread in the media that it was the British who were actively pushing the authorities in Chisinau towards a forceful scenario.
📌Today also opened a two-day session of the OSCE Council of Ministers in Skopje, to which Moldovan Foreign Minister Nikolai Popescu is going with the main thesis: the demand to withdraw Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, whose presence Maia Sandu’s team now calls “illegal.”
As we have noted more than once before, soon the Transnistrian issue may unexpectedly become one of the main ones on the agenda.
#Great Britain #Moldova #Transnistria
@rybar

If anything should happen to Transnistria in terms of an attack – the Russians have only themselves to blame.
Russia has had 18 months to create a landbridge to Transnistria and to safeguard that territory.
What the heck are they waiting for?
The stories of Ukraine’s imminent collapse mean this should be a piece of cake – but it obviously isn’t – and it isn’t going to happen anytime soon either – despite some here still calling for a Ukrainian collapse by Christmas!
You are kidding yourself.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 13:38 utc | 109

What the heck are they waiting for?
Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 13:38 utc | 109

Notice how Russia consistently benefits from the West’s mistakes. They have no need to force an error.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 30 2023 13:44 utc | 110

Notice how Russia consistently benefits from the West’s mistakes. They have no need to force an error.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 30 2023 13:44 utc | 110
Yes, the very definition of fools, they harm themselves, they harm their friends, while trying to harm their enemies.
Doing nothing is still much better than having their help.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 30 2023 13:47 utc | 111

Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 13:38 utc | 109
Russia has had 18 months to create a landbridge to Transnistria and to safeguard that territory.
What the heck are they waiting for?
Hmm. Perhaps it is quite difficult to achieve in the teeth of 3 NATO armies, and a large civilian population to protect, and therefore takes a bit of time? Just a thought.

Posted by: Tim | Nov 30 2023 13:50 utc | 112

Vragtes 93: What a big heart our mass media has for mass murderers, if only they murdered on the right side.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Nov 30 2023 13:51 utc | 113

Medvedev, whose drunken rants are not quite coherent.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 30 2023 6:21 utc | 79
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Russia, unlike Israel, is winning a military conflict. The Zionists remain scared of Hezbollah, and can’t seem to handle a militia that was equipped and trained inside of their concentration camp (Hamas).
You’re also comparing a parliamentary member with a man who has managed his country during multiple wars and serves at a high level on the security council.
Claiming that Medvedev is another one of those drunk Rooskies, is par for the course for the capacity for Western fans to understand what is happening.
If you can’t see the difference between Israel and Russia when it comes to being a threat …

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 13:56 utc | 114

If anything should happen to Transnistria in terms of an attack – the Russians have only themselves to blame.
Russia has had 18 months to create a landbridge to Transnistria and to safeguard that territory.
What the heck are they waiting for?
The stories of Ukraine’s imminent collapse mean this should be a piece of cake – but it obviously isn’t – and it isn’t going to happen anytime soon either – despite some here still calling for a Ukrainian collapse by Christmas!
You are kidding yourself.
Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 13:38 utc | 109
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Is this level of black-pill defeatism practiced or does it come naturally to you?
In the grown-up world, it doesn’t matter what people are calling for. That includes you.
Putin is responsible for one of the world’s great powers. Their agenda is their own, and if you’re not a highly placed Russian politician, I doubt you have much capacity to understand or judge what they are (or are not) doing.
All I know is that they have been remarkably successful thus far. In a manner that no one predicted 2 years ago.
They have re-oriented their economy, increased their military power dramatically, cleaved many of the non-patriots from the civilization, and exposed who their long-term partners are likely to be outside of the West. Tightening relations with China and several Islamic countries.
Transnistria isn’t even a line item. The closer Russia gets to an Article 5 country, the more circumspect it must be unless they plan to kick off a World War with NATO. Last time I checked, Transnistria sits inside of an Article 5 country, and even approaching the border is probably enough provocation to force the others to enter.
Which I am sure would thrill you, but will cost millions of lives and trillions in destruction.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 14:06 utc | 115

canuck
I’m pretty certain that the Iron Curtain phrase was invented by Friedrich von Gentz, who was talking about Napoleon.
I haven’t got a reference unless my memory counts.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 14:30 utc | 116

Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 14:06 utc | 115

Transnistria isn’t even a line item. The closer Russia gets to an Article 5 country, the more circumspect it must be unless they plan to kick off a World War with NATO. Last time I checked, Transnistria sits inside of an Article 5 country, and even approaching the border is probably enough provocation to force the others to enter.
Which I am sure would thrill you, but will cost millions of lives and trillions in destruction.

Re: Tranistria. Check again. You obviously never checked in the first place to make such a statement.
Re: Millions of lives. No. Where do you get such a stupid idea?

Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 14:49 utc | 117

… Last time I checked, Transnistria sits inside of an Article 5 country, and even approaching the border is probably enough provocation to force the others to enter.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 14:06 utc | 115

Whatever the risks or merits of intervention, Transnistria’s in Moldova and Moldova isn’t yet in NATO.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 15:14 utc | 118

Posted by: Julian | Nov 30 2023 13:38 utc | 109
Don’t jump ahead of the game. There was no actual practical opportunity to create a land bridge through Odessa earlier, but most likely, there will eventually be one as AFU is ground to dust. Avdeevka is sucking enormous amounts of stuff in it. As long as AFU doesn’t attack there, everything is fine.
And since AFU is tied up increasingly to plugging gaps which are continuously popping up along the front line they shouldn’t have realistic chances to amass a force for Transnistria. Of course, unless it’s a Nato force and mercs then it will be a different game.
Maybe the British want Moldova to shed off Transnistria and have some Nato merc force attack it. But if you look at total Ukraine, then the amount of mercenaries has plateaued sometime in the beginning of 2023 and has been falling off. IMHO the window to invade Transnistria is fading away if not completely gone since the situation for AFU won’t get any better.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 15:30 utc | 119

Lithuania now playing games with the road and border crossing re kaliningrad. They are only letting three trucks trough per hour.
Childish provokation after provokation.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 30 2023 15:37 utc | 120

Another additional problem is Nato is only supplying Ukraine the bare minimum anymore. It seems there is no more conviction for Ukraine, so they are giving minimal amount of stuff.
The recent interview with Arestovich confirmed it.
Since there is no conviction for Ukraine, the only new contracts can come from re-armament programs, but they are hugely costly and require to dismantle portions of existing society structures to fund them. We will see how long that will work, especially, if one reduces welfare benefits from migrants, one could have very serious state-threatening problems in their hands. Either way, it’s a spiral of poverty and more problems down the road.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:43 utc | 90

The so-called conviction for Ukraine was always superficial. It’s hard to unpack how Europe works, but a large part of their conviction has been rooted in an irrational fear and hatred of Russia, and this has been enabled by decades of polarization, East vs West, us vs them, implemented by US/NATO influence.
For the US, the Ukraine conviction is even more ridiculous, as the US propaganda machine would have a hard time manufacturing even a thinly credible rationale for a Russian threat. The US conviction is based mostly on a presumption that the US holds the moral high ground here. Russia bad, Ukraine good, and the US the exceptional nation that upholds fairness and freedom and metes out justice to the transgressors. Given the US history of criminal actions around the world – interference in the affairs of sovereign states, wars, assassinations, and resultant deaths and human displacement – this widely held belief that the US is some sort of Marvel comics superhero keeping the world safe is moronic nonsense. The belief by many in the US that their country somehow has the moral standing to fix anything anywhere in the world is a testament to the idiocy that is rampant here. A conviction based on a phony moral presumption can only take a country so far. Now that Ukraine is a black hole that sucks up billions of dollars with no end in sight, and it is becoming more and more apparent that Ukraine, and by extension, the US, are not ‘winning,’ the American people are losing interest. Eventually they will take down their yellow and blue flags and find another righteous cause to replace their Ukraine jones.

Posted by: Mike R | Nov 30 2023 15:41 utc | 121

Quite an interesting combination of heli-drone and laser guided S-8L missiles (a bit like APKWS). Can’t seem to find any info on the engine / cost of the civilian version for a price reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_G2RRRC4W0

The first Russian Termit drone with S-8L missiles
Serial production of Termit helicopter-type drones has begun in Russia. The drone was developed by the Strela production enterprise, which is part of the Kronstadt company, and was first shown in 2021. The unmanned attack mini-combat helicopter MDP-01 “Termite” is an analogue of the civilian version of the SmartHELI-350 drones. The new drone is equipped with a surveillance and sighting station, a weapons control system and three S-8L missiles from the Kalashnikov concern with an 80 mm laser homing head. In Russia, this is the first unmanned helicopter with missile weapons. The S-8L missile is based on the S-8 unguided aircraft missiles used by Russian aviation. Unlike the S-8 missiles, the S-8L missile has a semi-active homing head with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead, the missile’s range is up to 6 kilometers. It is assumed that the drone operator, having detected the target, sets it to be tracked by a laser beam, after which the drone acts autonomously, with the help of artificial intelligence, choosing the time of the missile launch based on the calculation of altitude and range. The Termit drone can reach speeds of up to 150 km/h, its range of use is up to 300 kilometers, the flight time is up to 6 hours, at an altitude of up to 3000 meters.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 15:49 utc | 122

Crematoriums ( Nov 29 2023 16:05 utc | 9 ):
Something like that could explain a lot but I’m kind of skeptical considering the added effort compared to …umm let’s name it “active triage”… and just leaving corpses around for nature to deal with. Not like there are many tourists and ramblers around, or civilians.
Jerr ( Nov 29 2023 20:21 utc | 43 ):
Good ideas!
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On what is certainly not shovels (at least not to my mind but maybe everyone calls it that now):
In the case of the Russians what we’re talking about is MPL-50, Wikipedia has a good enough page on them. NATO armies have similar and you can find examples and pictures at the bottom of the Wikipedia; Entrenching Tool page.
They’re all fairly short, small, and light compared to ordinary spades (never mind shovels lol) because among other things you were supposed to be able to dig down while lying flat and under fire.
Don’t be distracted by any folding ability and plastics; both Russian and NATO versions can be handy melee weapons when sharpened (or blunt for that matter) if one absolutely doesn’t have anything better and perhaps more importantly if the enemy doesn’t have anything better… 😛
(We’re nearly all the way down to a sticks, stones, hammers, hairspray, biros and pencils level when talking about this, and after that there’s marbles and tins of crushed glass, rolled up magazines and whatnot… …sigh, the lengths that some Glock-haters* go to to avoid them… lol :P).
* Glock pistols not spades, didn’t know they made those spades until I saw it on the Wikipedia. Anyway it’s a “gun nut” joke for anyone who doesn’t get it.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 30 2023 16:05 utc | 123

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM9eLhoCIjo
Claim that an attractive female lieutenant was fragged after insisting on men going on a suicide mission. If there’s a lot more of this, the war can end.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 30 2023 16:11 utc | 124

canuck
I’m pretty certain that the Iron Curtain phrase was invented by Friedrich von Gentz, who was talking about Napoleon.
I haven’t got a reference unless my memory counts.
Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 14:30 utc | 116
I think you may be correct.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 16:52 utc | 125

Today the term Nazi is used for anyone with right-wing ideas, or simply as an insult.
Posted by: 600w | Nov 29 2023 20:56 utc | 49
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Even though fascism is the inevitable end point of socialism and communism, the so-called left. The right abhor Big Government, though many espouse flag-waving and ra-ra military. Go figure.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 30 2023 16:53 utc | 126

“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons.”
Winston Churchill.
Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 10:01 utc | 95.
…………………………….
Am constitutionally unable to do anything but admire a man with such eloquent wit despite the glorious ruin left in his larger-than-life Imperial wake.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 30 2023 17:00 utc | 127

The home front.
https://t.me/ghost_of_novorossia/17824

I’ll be honest, I was burned out.
I was burned not by the TV presenters you know and not by the network of our enemies, I was burned by the good old “liberals.”
These people have never touched me publicly, so I will endure politeness and also will not refer to the post that was sent to me.
There, in the photograph, around the Israeli flag, in Moscow, there are many people well known to me, very good musicians.
They just played a concert in support of Israel. One of these musicians even wrote in his story “let’s end this once and for all” and “We stand with Israel,” obviously referring to the war in the Gaza Strip. Well, or the final solution to any of the issues, I don’t know.
And everything would be fine, we have a free country and this is their personal business, if these same people (or their closest associates and like-minded people) had not recently shouted “no to war”, and would not have cursed me at all costs for the concerts in Mariupol , would not condemn the SVO, would not directly participate in the “cancel culture” of “supporting Donbass” artists, would not giggle behind their backs and would not force “neutral” artists who simply say hello to the “supporters of the SVO” to “make excuses.”
I understand the citizens of Israel very well and recognize their full right to support their country.
In the margins, we note that in 7 weeks (!) of the war in the Gaza Strip, more children, women and children died than in twenty years of war in Afghanistan and one and a half years of war in Ukraine (the largest war in 80 years).
The indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, war crimes and the destruction of hospitals, mosques and churches have been condemned by the vast majority of countries in the world, condemned by the UN and international organizations, pro-Palestinian multimillion-dollar marches are taking place all over the world, but that’s not what I’m talking about.
I repeat: I do not condemn and understand the citizens of Israel, this is their country, this is their war.
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But bitch, why are you, those who left and those who stayed, such hypocrites?
Why are we here “aggressive militarists” and “terrorists”, and you just support the peaceful state of Israel?
Why are our concerts in the Northern Military District zone, risking our lives, sowing hatred, while your concerts are in support of the innocent and victims?
Why doesn’t anything click in your head?
One musician left for Israel after the start of the Northern Military District, unable to endure aggressive Russian militarism. Now he plays in military hospitals and for the IDF.
Am I judging him? Well, of course not. Well done for supporting your country’s army. Moreover, well done for honestly leaving a warm place in Moscow and going home. I’m not being ironic.
But the rest? Those who remain don’t bother you?
And while we ask such rhetorical questions, and we ourselves squabble in the “red-white war,” these guys are tightly united, have serious resources and are not going to go anywhere.
Think about it.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 18:20 utc | 128

My bad, I genuinely thought that Moldova was already in NATO.
That doesn’t change my point.
To date, Russia has rationalized its fight as being with the Nazi regime in Ukraine.
The minute it moves up to and annexes European territory (regardless of the local political will, it will be seen as such) that will send the Baltic states with a Russian diaspora into an uproar and give cause to a greater European intervention. And many of those Baltic states are in NATO. understand how hard it is for some people to understand that the Russians are not playing a war game.
Thank God that Russia is an ancient civilization being run by emotional adults.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 19:26 utc | 129

Am constitutionally unable to do anything but admire a man with such eloquent wit despite the glorious ruin left in his larger-than-life Imperial wake.
Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 30 2023 17:00 utc | 127
Given that he receives the empire in its death throes, 83 years into its decline , and 8 months into a war not going well at all, the wake should be seen as wake before a burial.
A quarter of century before, 58 years in their decline on WWI, they lost primacy some dozen years latter
But in WWII they gave the US everything, territories, science and engineering, money and business, to save what they could (very little indeed).
We’re still shy of 32 years into the US’s decline.
Another quarter of a century before any major loss or shame, and 40 years to go before people really start feeling that they lost it and start shifting finance, etc.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 30 2023 19:28 utc | 130

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 13:56 utc | 114
Yes, it was uncalled for, downright insulting. I ask for honourable(?) parliamentarians forgiveness.
Being a drunkard is not tied to nationality or persons station in society. Putin is not a drunk. Medvedev, however, is, deputy chairman or not.
BTW, is Putin the chairman of the security council? If so, that can partly explain Medvedevs actions. Any deputy chair of Putins of course has absolutely no power.
Except to tweet. Drunk.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 30 2023 19:30 utc | 131

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Summary for 30 Nov 2023 by 20:01⚡️
🔹In #Kherson Direction, the AFU are holding on to the centre of #Krynki with their “teeth”. Fierce fighting is continuing in the village, and our forces have managed to push the AFU out of a number of buildings. Amazingly, the AFU are bringing reserves to #Krynki. Their supply possibilities will improve if the #Dnieper is ice covered. Hopefully, we will be able to eliminate the AFU foothold before the frost.
🔹In #Zaporozhye Direction, the snowfall has made the mud even more muddy. It is difficult to move forward, but our forces retain the initiative. Some more territories have been retaken from #Rabocino. We are gradually playing back the counteroffensive. The AFU does not stop attacks north of #Verbovoye. Our military is holding the line.
🔹In #South Donetsk direction, without significant changes. Our Army continues to press the AFU on the #Priyutnoye – #Staromayorskoye line and consolidates after the latest advances.
🔹In #Donetsk Direction, at #Avdeyevka, it is most active. Rains are expected, and if they are heavy, the fighting will certainly subside. Meanwhile, on our southern flank we came close to #Severnoye, the coverage of the village is planned. To the west, our forces are fighting for the approaches to #Tonenkoye. On the northern flank our forces are advancing towards #Novokalinovo and #Ocheretino. Fierce fighting is going on near #Stepovoye and to the west of the #Slagheap. Ukrainians are writing about our wide range of ammunition. Successes at the front are the most direct evidence of the development of the Russian military-industrial complex.
📌 #Avdeyevka has become a powerful fortified area over 10 years. From here the AFU has been hitting #Donetsk all this time. Avdeyevka coke plant is the heart of the fortress. When our army takes control of it, the liberation of #Avdeyevka will get easier. Kiev is fighting and will fight to the last for #Avdeyevka, because from there, our army will rush to liberate the entire #Donbass. There are no seriously fortified positions up to the #Kramatorsk – #Slavyansk line.
🔹In #Bakhmut Direction, our forces also maintain their initiative. The AFU tried to retake positions near the #Berkhovskoye Reservoir, but ours repulsed the attacks and expanded the bridgehead. There is also progress near #Bogdanovka. There is no confirmation yet that our forces have entered the village, which is well fortified. This is where the AFU withdrew from #Bakhmut in the spring. According to some versions, our idea is to pass between #Bogdanovka and #Khromovo towards Chasov Yar. South of the city fighting is ongoing near #Kleshcheyevka and #Andreyevka, with no change in the frontline. It is also not yet possible to push the AFU away from #Kurdyumovka.
🔹In #Svatovo Direction, the AFU is expecting a Russian offensive. There are signs that ours will storm #Torskoye and #Zarechnoye, eliminating the AFU bridgehead on the #Zherebets River. In the area of #Zagoruykovka, our forces have cut into the AFU defence and are expanding their zone of control. There is fighting on the #Sinkovka – #Petropavlovka line. Our army held the lines after the enemy counterattacks, and maintained its presence in #Sinkovka. At the #Ivanovka – #Kislovka line, our forces are advancing slowly but steadily. The AFU is transferring reserves to #Kupyansk and further to #Petropavlovka and #Podoli.

https://t.me/sitreports/18806

Posted by: Down South | Nov 30 2023 19:35 utc | 132

Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President received information from the SBU about preparations for the creation of a social movement of veterans/volunteers and military personnel, the purpose of which is to protect the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Zaluzhny from attacks by politicians. On Bankova they consider this process to be political, from which Zaluzhny’s party will grow.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/20656

Posted by: Down South | Nov 30 2023 19:39 utc | 133

Zaluzhny was able to push through the decision to build defensive structures along the entire front line; we wrote that the Office of the President opposed it, considering such a step as Ukraine’s refusal of Zelensky’s strategy to return the borders to 1991.
The Ministry of Digital Transformation and the Ministry of Defense have created a joint working group on the construction of fortifications. It is no secret that over the past 2 months the Russian army has become more active in many directions of the front; the Russian Federation is especially fiercely trying to capture Avdeevka in the Donetsk region, and in Bakhmutsky to regain lost positions.
In this confrontation, not only weapons and equipment are important, but also well-equipped fortifications. According to all the rules of military affairs, there should be three lines of defense, but the military alone cannot cope with such a scale of construction work. Therefore, according to the head of the Ministry of Digital Development, Mikhail Fedorov, they decided to create a working group from the Ministry of Defense for the construction of defensive structures. As Fedorov clarified, he will lead the group together with Defense Minister Rustem Umerov.
The group will work as an operational headquarters and will coordinate the efforts of the authorities and the military in matters of construction of fortifications. As Fedorov emphasized, they plan to introduce reform to define areas of responsibility.
Thus, on the first line of defense, the construction of fortifications will continue to be carried out by military units. On the second and third line is the State Agency for Rehabilitation and Infrastructure Development of Ukraine through the involvement of private contractors. And the working group will coordinate everyone.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/20659

Posted by: Down South | Nov 30 2023 19:41 utc | 134

If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons.”
Winston Churchill.
Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 10:01 utc | 95.
…………………………….
Am constitutionally unable to do anything but admire a man with such eloquent wit despite the glorious ruin left in his larger-than-life Imperial wake.
Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 30 2023 17:00 utc | 127
Ha, ha we’re on the same page; my favourite Churchill witticism came late at night at a party when Lady Asquith told him :
“Winston you are drunk” Winston replied slurring,
“Yes, I am, but in the morning , madam, I will be sober, while you will still be ugly.”

Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 19:48 utc | 135

Another quarter of a century before any major loss or shame, and 40 years to go before people really start feeling that they lost it and start shifting finance, etc.
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 30 2023 19:28 utc | 130
You are ignoring the rate of technical development and the increase in speed of transport and communications since those times.
Those incharge of the Empire and who understand the ramifications of the Ukraine and Israel debacles will no doubt be wishing that they have that amount of time left.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 30 2023 20:23 utc | 136

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 19:26 utc | 129
A move by NATO against Transnistria has been on the cards since the very start of the conflict but, after some initial attempts to control the whole coast and support Transnistria directly, things have gradually slipped away as far as power projection towards Odessa and Transnistria is concerned.
The vessels of the BSF are being disabled or destroyed at a rate greatly exceeding that of repair or replacement, with no reason to suppose that won’t continue.
Those were losses in a battle for influence, I think NATO is starting to collect on the success of its own efforts to isolate Odessa and Transnistria and that, all rationalisations aside, a different military outcome would have produced a different political outcome.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 20:50 utc | 137

@ canuck, §135:
Or lady MP to WC: “If I were married to you, I´d poison your tea!
WC: “Madam, if I were married to you, I´d drink it.”

Posted by: John Marks | Nov 30 2023 22:44 utc | 138

A new report for Al Mayadeen from their Ukraine correspondent Dmitri Kovalevich.
It is well worth reading:
There can be no Presidential elections in Ukraine next March, whem they are due. The legisltive elections, due earlier this year were postponed. The country lives under martial law. All opposition is banned. Critics of the government are imprisoned without trial. The governing party are stealing as if there were no tomorrow, because there isn’t.
Such is the democracy in which NATO invests.
“….Sergei Markov, director of the Russian Institute for Political Studies, believes that the head of Zelensky’s Office, Andrei Yermak, flew to the United States in mid-November to meet with current Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and coordinate the dismissal of General Zaluzhnyi. “But not simply fire him. If Zelensky fires Zaluzhnyi… he will become a free man who will be able to run for president and win the election [in 2024] against Zelensky. The president suspects that the Americans want to replace him with Zaluzhnyi. Therefore, Zelensky must not just fire Zaluzhnyi, but repress him, accusing him of corruption or high treason. Zelensky can also appoint Zaluzhnyi to a position that prohibits him from participating in elections. This is the main problem that Zelensky is tackling”.
“According to Markov, there is a popular belief in United States governing circles that leaders in countries subordinate to the West should be periodically changed so that they do not become too independent..”
https://socialistincanada.ca/
From the sublime to the ridiculous:
Scorpion @126
your assertion that socialism always leads to fascism is repulsively false. You have not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is any relationship between these polar opposites besides the obvious one. Namely that the capitalist class, in order to protect its property interests from democracy has instituted fascist regimes (notably in Italy under Mussolini and Germany under Hitler) in order to repress socialists and to increase the exploitation of the working class.
Those are historical facts- running into such unfamiliar creatures might surprise you. Yours is the peculiar kind of moral cowardice born of bourgeois fears of equality depriving them of their prized if tiny privilege. They cannot imagine the audacity of those who dare question the verities of class exploitation and those hierarchies in which they find comfortable refuge in the middle.
Given that you share Hitler and Mussolini’s views of critics of capitalism it is hard to escape the notion that you are a fascist yourself. Or have you a nicer name for your contempt for democracy and reverence for power.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 23:10 utc | 139

John Marks@138
Lady Astor that was.
As to the lady canuck cites I’m pretty certain that that was not ‘Lady Asquith.’

Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 23:13 utc | 140

Posted by: canuck | Nov 30 2023 19:48 utc | 135
and Churchill was still a mass murdering alcoholic piece of crap who resembled a bulldog. was he washed up by the time he made this witticism, or did that come later?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2023 23:21 utc | 141

While the majority of people in the former Soviet Union may think that the destruction of the Union was a tragedy that led to much human misery, continuing today, Putin has made it clear that he disagrees.
I have read that Putin used his station in St. Petersburg to help stamp out the uprising after Yeltsin signed the paper destroying the USSR.
Henry Kissinger was a proponent of detente, turning the USA from a openly hostile opponent of the USSR into a secretly destructive opponent, who used the opening of relations with the Soviets to make contact with key bureaucrats willing to be bribed into treason. It took fewer than 20 years to complete that task.
It seems obvious that those who are profiting from the ensuing turn of the USSR into a hybrid capitalist country currently selling off its resources to the rest of the world, instead of using them solely for themselves and their posterity, would approve of the US diplomat who got the ball rolling on the US side.
So I am not surprised that Putin has kind words for HK.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 30 2023 23:55 utc | 142

The discussion of Churchill’s witticisms reminded me of a short article I read in National Lampoon back in the 70s. An internet search reveals it was called “The Churchill Wit” by Michael O’Donoghue. Some excerpts:

When the noted playwright George Bernard Shaw sent him two tickets to the opening night of his new play with a note that read: “Bring a friend, if you have one,” Churchill, not to be outdone, promptly wired back: “You and your play can go fuck yourselves.”
* * *
At an elegant dinner party, Lady Astor once leaned across the table to remark, “If you were my husband, Winston, I’d poison your coffee.”
“And if you were my wife, I’d beat the shit out of you,” came Churchill’s unhesitating retort.
* * *
Churchill was known to drain a glass or two and, after one particularly convivial evening, he chanced to encounter Miss Bessie Braddock, a Socialist member of the House of Commons, who, upon seeing his condition, said, “Winston, you’re drunk.” Mustering all his dignity, Churchill drew himself up to his full height, cocked an eyebrow and rejoined, “Shove it up your ass, you ugly cunt.”
* * *
Shortly after Churchill had grown a moustache, he was accosted by a certain young lady whose political views were in direct opposition to his own. Fancying herself something of a wag, she exclaimed, “Mr. Churchill, I care for neither your politics nor your moustache.”
Unabashed, the young statesman regarded her quietly for a moment, then wryly commented, “Suck my dick.”
* * *
Churchill was given to reading to reading in the bathtub and, while staying at the White House, he became so engrossed in an account of the Battle of Fonteney that he forgot President Roosevelt was due to drop by to discuss the upcoming conference in Yalta. At the appointed hour, the president was wheeled into Churchill’s quarters only to be informed that the prime minister had not finished bathing. Roosevelt was about to apologize for the intrusion and depart when Churchill, puffing his customary cigar, strode into the room stark naked and greeted the nonplussed world leader with a terse, “What are you staring at, homo?”

Posted by: Diet of Worms | Dec 1 2023 0:38 utc | 143

You have not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is any relationship between these polar opposites besides the obvious one
Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 23:10 utc | 139

Well, I have more arguments:
Otto Strasser, one of the early members of the NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers’ Party) and brother of Gregor Strasser (one of the NSDAP founders), was a member of the German SPD (Social Democratic Party) before his time in the NSDAP, at that time a Marxist party.
Both Strasser brothers were part of the left-wing faction within the NSDAP. The left wing attempted to steer the NSDAP towards Marxism and advocated for an alliance with Stalin. It was only after Stalin chose to support the German Communist Party (KPD) that the Marxist faction within the NSDAP weakened.
During the interwar period, Germany had three major left-wing parties: the NSDAP, the KPD, and the SPD. Around 1932, Stalin declared that the primary political adversary was “social fascism” and, therefore, the SPD (!) had to be fought against—not the NSDAP. This SPD is the same one currently in government in Germany. The German KPD then founded the Antifa as an armed combat group to fight alongside the NSDAP against the SPD.
After the Second World War, all socialist parties in both East and West Germany competed for NSDAP voters, explicitly addressing and considering former NSDAP voters as socialist voters.
It was only with the advent of the Frankfurt School around 1968 that the idea emerged that the NSDAP had been a right-wing party. The Frankfurt School also got the brilliant idea of that “That was no real socialism”. Since the Frankfurt School lefties react with the response “yes but that was no real socialism” each time a socialistic state went bankrupt.

Posted by: Tuk | Dec 1 2023 0:45 utc | 144

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 30 2023 16:11 utc | 124
https://t.me/dillfrash/28382
Machine translation:
A young psychologist was shot dead in the 14th ombr brigade: the militants refused to go on the attack
A resonant incident occurred near the village of Sinkovki, Kharkov region, where one of the battalions of the 14th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces makes ends meet.
At the disposal of battalion commander Major Viktor Khomyak was psychologist/political officer Natalya Lichman, who this summer received her first officer rank of lieutenant.
One of Natalya’s tasks was the psychological rehabilitation of the brigade militants who refused to storm the positions of Russian troops, as well as convincing them to return to the combat zone.
Recently, Russian troops attempted an attack on the positions of the 3rd battalion of the 14th mechanized brigade, which led to the capture of several strongholds of the unit due to the flight of Ukrainian military personnel.
Natalia emotionally tried to convince the militants to recapture their lost positions, but to no avail. It got to the point that Leachman “attacked” battalion commander Khomyak, calling him impartial words: a coward, a conscientious objector, worthless, etc.
A skirmish began, during which a shot was fired and Natalya fell dead – she was shot by battalion commander Major Khomyak. To cover up for his battalion commander, brigade commander Colonel Trubnikov “attributed” her death to artillery shelling by the Russian Armed Forces with cluster munitions.
However, Natalya Lichman’s relatives do not believe this – they demand that the prosecutor’s office conduct an investigation, and also bring Major Khomyak and Colonel Trubnikov to justice.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 1 2023 0:52 utc | 145

Actually, Churchill’s reply to Lady Astor was “If I were your husband, I would drink it.”

Posted by: Student of History | Dec 1 2023 1:40 utc | 146

Some videos for today.
Russian Giatsint-B howitzer pounds enemy positions and destroys moving enemy armored vehicle near Rabotino on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/4b2260d81a7c192515b3b0c1ddb9d883/
Russian Msta-B howitzer pounds enemy troop rotation near Rabotino on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/1dccb8057ab2375ea3c8e50f40b9ca24/
Russian D-30 howitzer team in action, near Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/dff7ef0c5c4619e1fef65448b96bb8bb/
Russian MiG-31 interceptor performs patrol over liberated Kherson oblast:
https://rutube.ru/video/ba6902353a263aaacf50de022fc1447f/

Posted by: Nate | Dec 1 2023 1:45 utc | 147

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 30 2023 23:55 utc | 142
“While the majority of people in the former Soviet Union may think that the destruction of the Union was a tragedy that led to much human misery, continuing today, Putin has made it clear that he disagrees.”
Umm, where did you get that?
He has in fact been quite clear, what a disaster he thinks it was:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/06/john-bolton/did-vladimir-putin-call-breakup-ussr-greatest-geop/
No wonder, SU did succesfully invade & subdue few european nations (‘allies’) after second world war.
russia not so much.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Dec 1 2023 2:42 utc | 148

Re: Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 15:30 utc | 119

Don’t jump ahead of the game. There was no actual practical opportunity to create a land bridge through Odessa earlier, but most likely, there will eventually be one as AFU is ground to dust. Avdeevka is sucking enormous amounts of stuff in it. As long as AFU doesn’t attack there, everything is fine.

That’s not true at all.
After capturing the entire Kherson oblast the Russians needed to push on and capture Nikolaev to consolidate that gain – they never did, and because of that their capture of
Kherson was always vulnerable – and so it turned out, and they eventually had to retreat back across the river.
They shouldn’t have stalled their offensive at that point in time – but they clearly went in without a well formulated plan – which after 8 years of preparation – is incredibly disappointing and short-sighted.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 1 2023 2:43 utc | 149

… Last time I checked, Transnistria sits inside of an Article 5 country, and even approaching the border is probably enough provocation to force the others to enter.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 14:06 utc | 115
Whatever the risks or merits of intervention, Transnistria’s in Moldova and Moldova isn’t yet in NATO.
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 15:14 utc | 118

NATO will do a squirt. They can only observe, in great fear and a ‘concern’.
The official claim is that around 5000 RF Peacekeeping soldiers are stationed in Transnistria. Ukraine has been told not to touch or even try to attack there. Some big ammo stashes, lots of antennas, few bases and some housing blocks are military zones, as only RF soldiers or military stuff lives there, with or without their families, But so far and for many years people live in peace and nobody is killed or troubled.
It has been a mystery to everyone, since nobody knows precisely how those forces are resupplied and rotated?

Posted by: whirlX | Dec 1 2023 3:06 utc | 150

Watching two midwit fascists (Canuck and Scorpion) out themselves in real time, knowing B has specifically read and despised their comments, has been nice.
@ you two – – realize that your intellect doesn’t make you learned and that you are merely speaking members of the braindead “silent majority”. Then take a seat far away from the educated people, please.

Posted by: Brautigan | Dec 1 2023 3:17 utc | 151

@ Brautigan | Dec 1 2023 3:17 utc | 151 who maybe is want to give these folks a quote from bevin that I continue to use…see below
If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage- to honest actors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2023 4:21 utc | 152

Big Serge has written a great article on pre WW1 German military strategic thinkings and linking it to the present Russian SMO.
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/the-end-of-cabinet-war

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 1 2023 4:44 utc | 153

Claim that an attractive female lieutenant was fragged after insisting on men going on a suicide mission. If there’s a lot more of this, the war can end.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 30 2023 16:11 utc | 124

She died end of 2022. Sounds more like Russian propaganda.
https://telegraf.com.ua/ukraina/2022-12-23/5726973-zakhishchala-ukrainu-z-2014-roku-na-zakarpatti-poproshchalisya-z-ukrainskoyu-viyskovosluzhbovitseyu-video

Posted by: Ali | Dec 1 2023 7:42 utc | 154

… It has been a mystery to everyone, since nobody knows precisely how those forces are resupplied and rotated?
Posted by: whirlX | Dec 1 2023 3:06 utc | 150

I’m sure there was a TG post a few months ago that suggested troop rotation / buildup was via civilian flights, dressed in civilian clothes. That doesn’t explain how their equipment arrives but Ukraine was and is ridiculously corrupt so everything is possible for a price.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 1 2023 8:50 utc | 155

Msm is finally starting to report what all barfly and anyone with 2 neurons firing knew. NATO is washed up
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/europes-weak-armed-forces-could-be-washed-away-by-russia-bmxbc22gc#:~:text=Europe%20is%20not%20prepared%20for,eminent%20military%20historian%20has%20warned.

Posted by: Hankster | Dec 1 2023 9:00 utc | 156

@ whirlX | Dec 1 2023 3:06 utc | 150
Last I read, the RF “peacekeepers” (basically depot-guards, about 2000 in total, rotating individually) flew civilian into–Chisinau?–and then took the bus to the PMR.
Something like that.

Posted by: John Kennard | Dec 1 2023 9:03 utc | 157

world bank to ukraine here is 1.2 b
via rt
Ukraine to get $1.2 billion from World Bank
The latest loan brings the total in ‘emergency financing’ Kiev has been lent or promised to more than $38 billion
Ukraine to get $1.2 billion from World Bank
The World Bank headquarters in Washington D.C., the United States. © Global Look Press / Keystone Press Agency/Xinhua
Ukraine will receive a $1.2 billion loan from the World Bank which is being guaranteed by the government of Japan, the lender reported.
The money will be used to support 29 social aid programs for “the most vulnerable people in Ukraine” under a project to invest in Social Protection for Inclusion, Resilience, and Efficiency (INSPIRE).The project is “an integral part of the international support package for Ukraine to meet its financing needs through 2024,” according to the World Bank.
With today’s announcement, the World Bank has now facilitated over $38 billion in emergency financing to support Ukraine, including commitments and pledges from lenders including: the US, Japan, the United Kingdom, Norway, the Netherlands, Spain, Germany, Canada, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Indonesia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belgium and the Republic of Korea.
The money to be lent by the World Bank came in line with Kiev’s expectations. Earlier in November, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmigal said it expected to obtain $1.1 billion from the World Bank. He added that the country also hopes to get €162 million ($177 million) in financial support from the European Investment Bank as part of programs to restore Ukraine, while $190 million and $70 million would be allocated by Norway and Switzerland, respectively.
gonna some countries regretting their backing soon?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 1 2023 11:02 utc | 158

@ canuck, §135:
Or lady MP to WC: “If I were married to you, I´d poison your tea!
WC: “Madam, if I were married to you, I´d drink it.”
Posted by: John Marks | Nov 30 2023 22:44 utc | 138
Ha, ha, thanks.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 11:05 utc | 159

Earlier in November, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmigal said it expected to obtain $1.1 billion from the World Bank. He added that the country also hopes to get €162 million ($177 million) in financial support from the European Investment Bank as part of programs to restore Ukraine, while $190 million and $70 million would be allocated by Norway and Switzerland, respectively.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 1 2023 11:06 utc | 160

Watching two midwit fascists (Canuck and Scorpion) out themselves in real time, knowing B has specifically read and despised their comments, has been nice.
@ you two – – realize that your intellect doesn’t make you learned and that you are merely speaking members of the braindead “silent majority”. Then take a seat far away from the educated people, please.
Posted by: Brautigan | Dec 1 2023 3:17 utc | 151
Thanks for the attention, Brautigan; can you kindly please illustrate factual examples of mine and Scorpion’s posts that led you to your conclusion that we are, in your eyes, “two midwit fascists”?
Thanks.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 11:11 utc | 161

Brautigan | Dec 1 2023 3:17 said THIS:

Watching two midwit fascists (Canuck and Scorpion) out themselves in real time, knowing B has specifically read and despised their comments, has been nice.
@you two — realize that your intellect doesn’t make you learned and that you are merely speaking members of the braindead “silent majority”. Then take a seat far away from the educated people, please.

Seconded & BRAVO!!
These two (Scorpion & canuck) persistently poison all MoA threads with their quasi-intelectual sophistry. For me, the newest clues encountered were ‘… INEVITABLE END POINT of socialism and communism’ and ‘… SO CALLED left’ in Scorpion | Nov 30 2023 16:53 post:

Even though fascism is the inevitable end point of socialism and communism, the so-called left. The right abhor Big Government, though many espouse flag-waving and ra-ra military. Go figure.

Posted by: LongCovid | Dec 1 2023 11:50 utc | 162

Ukraine Lost Over 125,000 People and 16,000 Weapons Over Six Months of Counteroffensive – Shoigu
“The Ukrainian counteroffensive began on June 4. Kiev sent into battle brigades trained by NATO instructors and armed with Western equipment. Three months later, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Kiev’s push had failed and that Ukraine had suffered heavy casualties.
The Ukrainian armed forces have lost more than 125,000 people and 16,000 units of weapons over the six-month counteroffensive, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Friday.
“During the six months of the so-called counteroffensive, the enemy lost over 125,000 people and 16,000 units of various weapons,” Shoigu told a meeting on military issues.
Total mobilization in Ukraine, supplies of Western weapons and the introduction of reserves did not change the situation on the battlefield, but only increased the number of losses among Ukrainian troops, the minister said.
“Our military acts competently and decisively, occupies a more advantageous position, and expands control zones in all directions,” he added.”
Sputnik

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 1 2023 12:33 utc | 163

John Marks@138
Lady Astor that was.
As to the lady canuck cites I’m pretty certain that that was not ‘Lady Asquith.’
Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2023 23:13 utc | 140
You are correct-thanks.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 12:44 utc | 164

Abrams woes.
It’s balancing on the edge whether it’s just more effort than worth to use Abrams. Of course if the life expectancy is a single or two sorties, then it doesn’t really matter. Lloyd Austin already tried to barter Zelensky to return 7 Abrams in return of 28 Leopard tanks. Not to mention now in snow and cold landscape that thing must be really shining like a neutron star on the IR camera.

💥🇺🇦 Abrams tanks are the new big problem for the AFU
According to Forbes, the air filters on the air intakes of the engines need to be cleaned every 12 hours or the tanks will soon have to be sent out for overhaul.
📝 “All of these things can be taught to the crew, but if they ever make a mistake – and they will – a million-dollar engine will explode that can’t be repaired in the field,” emphasized former U.S. Army General Mark Hertling.
https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1730565138904735766

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 1 2023 12:55 utc | 165

@ Jo, §§158, 160:
“guaranteed by Japan”? that´s nearly 300% over GDP in debt?
And the European Investment Bank? When the EU is going economically and politically down the tubes?
What a joke!
But all this support for the YouCrane from countries who can´t support nor defend their own populations was always a sick joke.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2023 13:07 utc | 166

“Even though fascism is the inevitable end point of socialism and communism, the so-called left. ” by Scorpion
Posted by: LongCovid | Dec 1 2023 11:50 utc | 162
Trigger Warning: Scorpion is correct and you, LongCovid are very seriously uninformed.
Kindly please read Plato’s Republic where he adroitly points out the cycle of governments. The left, as we can see in the West, has turned from tolerating ‘differences’ in people to weaponizing, persecuting anyone that doesn’t believe in what the left believes. This is the opposite of tolerance. It has devolved into cancel culture, censorship, authoritarianism – the hallmarks of Fascism. We are now entering the tyranny stage.
The ‘left’ and ‘right’, in my opinion, is not a line but, in reality a circle , in which the most far left and the most far right are indistinguishable from each other.
“Plato describes his cycle of governments in his work Republic, Book VIII and IX. He points out five forms of government: aristocracy, timocracy [means Priests rule], oligarchy, democracy, and tyranny, and writes that governments devolve respectively in this order from aristocracy into tyranny.”
https://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/republic/section8/

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 13:11 utc | 167

MARINKA HAS FALLEN
According to Weeb Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gS36snKc7w

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 14:06 utc | 168

🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺 Russian forces have reached the western outskirts of Marinka. After a decade of war, it looks like the city is about to fall to Russian Force.
The Russian military has almost completed the cleansing of Marinka
The flag was installed “on the extreme house of the extreme street”.
Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine control a few buildings and underground communications under them.
Marinka is a city that is closely adjacent to Donetsk. In eight years, the enemy turned it into one of the strongest fortified areas.
Now all that remains of it are ruins.
@anna_news

Posted by: chop | Dec 1 2023 14:08 utc | 169

bevin @139: “your assertion that socialism always leads to fascism is repulsively false.”
That poster is a master baiter, and you took the bait!
But I suppose such an egregiously false claim needs to be countered to clarify things for the silent lurkers in the forum, even though the poster in question will assert again and again the same false equivalency between fascism and socialism.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 1 2023 14:16 utc | 170

West determined to dismember Russia, eliminate its peoples — Security Council’s secretary
“The strategic aim of the Anglo-Saxons, for the sake of which they are imposing neo-Nazism on Europe, is to dismember Russia and eliminate the Russian world, the secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolay Patrushev believes.
“The West has entered a new phase of confrontation with Russia. The Anglo-Saxons unceremoniously impose neo-Nazi ideology on the Europeans in attempts to achieve their strategic aim – to dismember our country, to ruin the Russian world and to exterminate the peoples of Russia,” he wrote in the preface to Alexander Shchipkov’s book Unfinished Nazism. The presentation of the book took place in Moscow on Thursday.
Patrushev pointed out that the ideas of the Nazis were picked up by the masterminds of color revolutions, who impose xenophobia for the violent displacement of legitimate governments and for creating chaos in once stable regions.
“For justifying global inequality and for perpetuating the unipolar world, the Atlanticists do not hesitate to use the ideas of racial, ethnic, cultural and economic superiority, depriving entire peoples of opportunities for independent socio-economic and cultural-civilizational development,” he stated.
Eradication of Nazi ideas
According to Patrushev, by fueling interethnic discord, nurturing and fully supporting the proponents of extremism, chauvinism and all forms of radicalism, the West is creating a real threat to democratic and universal values, security, social stability and the unity of society.
“The approach being promoted by Russia is based on intolerance to any forms of discrimination and the prevention of attempts to excuse and exonerate the Nazis and whitewash their atrocities,” he said.
As Patrushev noted, Shchipkov’s book confirms the importance of continuing research aimed at “eradicating the ideas of neo-Nazism and at developing critical thinking that rejects any attempts to spread anti-human views and manipulate ethnic myths.”
Alexander Shchipkov (1957, Leningrad) is the rector of the Russian Orthodox University, professor of the Department of Philosophy at the Lomonosov Moscow State University, Doctor of Political Science. Deputy Head of the World Russian People’s Council.”
TASS

Posted by: rpst | Dec 1 2023 14:19 utc | 171

bevin @139: “your assertion that socialism always leads to fascism is repulsively false.”
That poster is a master baiter, and you took the bait!
But I suppose such an egregiously false claim needs to be countered to clarify things for the silent lurkers in the forum, even though the poster in question will assert again and again the same false equivalency between fascism and socialism.
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 1 2023 14:16 utc | 170
So I take it that you and bevin are better analysts of government than Plato.
Impressive.
If so you should both publish your amazing analysis so that scholars can treasure your insights 2,400 years later like we mistakenly have done with dumb Plato.

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 14:45 utc | 172

Posted by: canuck | Dec 1 2023 14:06 utc | 168
Posted by: chop | Dec 1 2023 14:08 utc | 169
‘Russian forces have reached the western outskirts of Marinka.’

Thanks, and maybe it finally has, but I’ve also heard that like 5-6 times in the last ~18mo, lol so color me skeptical for the next 24hr, usually that edge seems to get counter-attacked back rather quickly, but given current circumstances maybe Ukr finally decided to stop wasting resources on that, at least in the SW section highlighted by weebunion.

Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 1 2023 15:52 utc | 173

canuck @172: “So I take it that you and bevin are better analysts of government than Plato.”
I stand on the shoulders of giants, so yeah.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 1 2023 17:51 utc | 174

What´s up with NATO´s “exercise” ´Operation Freezing Wind´?
It looks very offensive for a “defence” organization´s “defensive” exercise . . .
Has StolenTurd decided it´s now or never?
Together with shenanigans in Moldova things may go off the rails.

Posted by: John Marks | Dec 1 2023 19:50 utc | 175