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November 29, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-288
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Nazilensky named ‘dreamer of the year’ by POLITICO
https://www.politico.eu/list/politico-28-class-of-2024/volodymyr-zelenskyy/
Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2023 14:03 utc | 1
🧩🧩🧩 Trust ratings for Zaluzhny exceed Zelensky’s ratings❗️
We had a closed November sociology, which was conducted in Ukraine at the request of the Americans (USAID). There is a very interesting questionnaire (wording of questions) that reveals the intent of the research goals ☝🏻
When these data were seen in the Office of the President, panic began there.
One of the painful results for the OP is that the trust rating for Zaluzhny is already higher than for Zelensky!!
The level of trust in Za is 82%, and in Ze – 72% ❗️In 3rd place in terms of trust, in addition, is Arestovich, but more about him later 😎
Political strategists believe that in the absence of an election campaign in the country, this indicator has little effect (this is not yet a political election rating). However, the highest degree of trust of Ukrainians in Zaluzhny allows him to both approach them with political initiatives and be a guarantor for a possible transition of power.
For example, how the Minister of Internal Affairs A. Avakov acted as a guarantor during the transfer of power from President Poroshenko to President Zelensky.
When sociologists modeled the 2nd round of the presidential election, Zaluzhny wins the election over Zelensky with results of 44%: 38% ❗️ At the same time, 8% found it difficult to answer (and we remember what that means).
During the parliamentary elections, Zaluzhny’s conditional party also wins – 31.5% of those who have decided are “For” it. The conditional Zelensky Bloc will take 21.7%, and Servant of the People – 5.4% (this is also a sensation)❗️
That is why Bankova decided to launch a massive media attack on both Zaluzhny and the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a whole. We are absolutely convinced that after such revelations from sociologists, the OP began the process of removing Zaluzhny from office: they do not need him either as a political opponent, or as a guarantor for the removal of Zelensky, or as a leader of public opinion 🧩
On September 14, based on another closed sociology, we predicted that within two months Zelensky would “stop winning” the second round against Zaluzhny. That’s what happened🧩
Posted by: Down South | Nov 29 2023 14:15 utc | 2
✍️⚡️The situation on the line of combat contact as of November 29, 2023 – analysis from @Multi_XAM and @z_arhiv
1️⃣ In the Avdeevsky direction: the Russian Armed Forces cleared the southern industrial zone, using tanks and infantry assault groups. The Ukrainian OSINT resource DeepState stated that the Russian Armed Forces, having a fivefold superiority in manpower and equipment, broke through the defenses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, opening up space for advancement deeper into the city. It is estimated that the number of Ukrainians who surrendered in the south of Avdiivka was up to 150.
Progress is underway in the area of Novokalinovo and Avdeevsky coke plant. There are positional battles on the southwestern flank in the area of Severny and Tonenky. On November 27-28, air strikes were carried out on strongholds and firing positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Orlovka, east of Severny and in the central part of Avdeevka.
2️⃣ In the South Donetsk direction: in the area of Ugledar and Novomikhailovka, units of the OBTF “Cascade” inflicted fire on long-standing strongholds of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as in Staromayorsky, Urozhainy and Novodonetsky. The attack successfully combined air strikes and artillery operations.
3️⃣ In the Krasno-Limansky direction and the Svatovo-Kremennaya line: air strikes were launched against the enemy in the area of Makeevka, Stelmakhovka, Ternov and Torskoye. The strike on the headquarters of OTG “Liman” was confirmed!! Despite the presence of fire contact in the area of Yampolovka, Zarechny, Serebryansky Forest and Belogorovka, the nature of the situation is positional battles.
4️⃣ In the Bakhmut direction: activity on the northwestern flank in the area of Dubovo-Vasilevka and the Berkhovsky reservoir. Air strikes were carried out on the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of Bogdanovka and Kalinovka, where the 117th, 120th and 127th TrO brigades, 56th motorized infantry, 6th mechanized and 17th tank brigades, 8th and 418th rifle battalions are concentrated. On the southern flank in the area of Kleshcheevka and Andreevka, we noted our interception of the initiative. The dynamics of the advance are not high, since the heights west of Kleshcheevka are held by the enemy. At the moment, units of 22 mechanized, 5 assault, 80 air assault brigades and separate UAV groups are concentrated there. The other day our VKS processed the area of heights.
Posted by: Down South | Nov 29 2023 14:17 utc | 3
Our source reports that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are experiencing increasing non-combat losses due to epidemics in the army and weather conditions. Soldiers began to fall ill en masse, as morale and disappointment were felt everywhere.
Disappointment is growing even against the background of the fact that the authorities are more occupied with political intrigues.
The behind-the-scenes war between ZeErmak and Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny is killing the morale of the army.
But it seems that Zelensky and Ermak care about their personal selfish issues, and not the interests of the country, although publicly they say the opposite.
Our source reports that Zelensky was warned that removing Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny at a time of huge problems at the front and a huge risk of losing Avdiivka/Kupyansk/Marinka within 3-6 months is a risky idea to get all the negativity addressed to him and accusations that because of personal political Ze-egoism, Ukraine is losing territory and thousands of lives of Ukrainian soldiers.
Perhaps they want to merge Avdiivka and blame Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny for this defeat. We wrote that Zaluzhny is against office workers turning Avdeevka into a Bakhmutov meat grinder. The reason is that if the Russian plan “Avdeevka stranglehold” is implemented, then a huge group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be in the cauldron. Then “heads will roll.”
In the struggle for power, any methods are good, which means that the entire case of defending Avdiivka could ultimately be pinned on Zaluzhny.
The Commander-in-Chief himself does not comment on the situation, but those around him already understand where the situation is going.
According to our information, Zaluzhny refused to be protected by the SBU and chooses his own routes of movement so as not to get into a situation as his adjutant.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20647
Posted by: Down South | Nov 29 2023 14:23 utc | 4
After more than a year of “Russia is running out of missiles”, Jens Stoltenberg today urges allies not to ‘underestimate’ Moscow and its war economy.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 14:52 utc | 5
“Russia is running out of missiles”
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Oh No !!!!
Surely not again !
Don’t they have a new lie to sell to us ?
Posted by: Engineer-John | Nov 29 2023 15:24 utc | 6
@YetAnotherAnon | Nov 29 2023 12:04 utc | 326 on the previous Ukraine thread linked to “The New Voice of Ukraine” website and an article about the difficulty of procuring rail stock. Lost of interesting articles from the Ukrainian perspective. A link to the business section:
https://english.nv.ua/business.html
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 29 2023 15:35 utc | 7
Apollyon @1
I agree with the article equating Churchill and Elensky. Both vicious anti Russian racist drug addicts whose primary purpose was always to hang on to power at all costs, and creating false flags to bring Amerikastan into the war on their side.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 29 2023 15:50 utc | 8
29.11.2023
Kiev burns. Crematoria of the Ukrainian Armed Forces work in three shifts, burning the corpses of their soldiers
A real death factory has been set up by the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the Kostyantynivka bone burning plant. The logistics are perfect. The crematorium is right in the middle of the fighting. The dead are taken from all the surrounding areas: Artemovsk, Kleshcheyevka, Avdeevka. Five kilometres away is the Kondratievka railway station, where trains with fuel for the needs of a giant crematorium arrive every two weeks. Inanimate “material” is delivered several times a day.
Three shifts without lunch breaks
The Ukraine does not spare money from the budget for field crematoria. Buy the best German high-performance stoves for burning large animals. For all the furnaces, the Germans provide, as one would expect from them. a lifetime warranty.
The process of “disposing of bodies” in the AFU has been worked out to the smallest detail: from receiving corpses to removing the finished “material” from the furnace.
There are ashes, but no losses. Ukrainian soldiers burn in crematoria designed to be used for for animals. “In the spring of this year, industrial refrigerators for storing corpses were installed in a separate building to ensure the smooth operation of the bone incinerator”, the Telegram channel “Military Chronicle” writes. “There are powerful multi-fuel generators installed there as well. In order not to cause panic amongst the local population, the bodies of killed Ukrainian soldiers are transported to the factory in ordinary trucks without the marks “Cargo 200”.
But residents of the surrounding villages have long known that the plant has a fully fledged “factory of death” of the Armed Forces of the Ukraine. Residents call this place “Hell’s Furnaces”. Owing to the poor operation of the furnace filters, smoke with ash escapes from the crematorium pipes, which, having settled, covers the surrounding area with a grey film.
“A strong smell of burnt bodies is all over the area”, the Telegram channel writes.
Called a soldier of the Armed Forces of the Ukraine — now get into the oven
In one of its publications correspondent edition aif.ru I have already written that it is a widespread practice in the Armed Forces of the Ukraine for a soldier to sign “voluntary” consent to the cremation of his body in the event of death.
According to the journalist, there are two reasons for this: concealment of losses and fraudulent schemes, when the so-called “coffin payments” are not paid to the relatives of dead soldiers.
This, by the way, is repeatedly mentioned during interrogations by Ukrainian prisoners of war. They say that the families of killed colleagues cannot receive compensation, since their relative is considered missing, not killed in action.
Indeed, the Kiev scheme is “perfect” — money in your pocket, and losses up the chimney
https://aif.ru/politics/world/kiev_zhzhet_krematorii_vsu_rabotayut_v_tri_smeny_szhigaya_trupy_svoih_soldat
Posted by: crematoriums | Nov 29 2023 16:05 utc | 9
@Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2023 14:03 utc | 1
You didn’t share the first paragraph. It is a true Laugher!!
Winston Churchill. Martin Luther King Jr. Nelson Mandela. Every once in a while, a leader comes along and single-handedly changes the course of history, not through the might of their army or the strength of their economy, but through the power of their words. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is such a leader.
Ha Haaa !
Posted by: librul | Nov 29 2023 16:06 utc | 10
@Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 14:52 utc | 5
Stoltenberg is the Age of Treason personified.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2023 16:46 utc | 11
Brecht had a solution for Z recruitment:
Legend of the dead soldier
Posted by: SOS | Nov 29 2023 16:53 utc | 12
>>Trust ratings for Zaluzhny exceed Zelensky’s ratings… @1
If Zelensky knew what he was doing and cared about his own life, he would use the election he currently has canceled to ease himself out of power. He has his pile of money, the country is unlikely to hold up, and if his enemies know he is going to be gone, they would be less likely to take him out by violent means. So, time to leave.
Apparently, Nietzsche’s will to power is real and Zelensky is retaining power against his own self interest.
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 17:15 utc | 13
@Down South @2
The level of trust in Za is 82%, and in Ze – 72% ❗️In 3rd place in terms of trust, in addition, is Arestovich, but more about him later 😎
Russia is poised to take advantage of political splits in Ukraine – Economist
Internal polling seen by The Economist suggests the president, once lauded for his role in defending the country, has been tarnished by corruption scandals in his government and by concern over the direction of the country. The figures, which date from mid-November, show trust in the president has fallen to a net +32%, less than half that of the still revered General Mr Zaluzhny (+70%). Ukraine’s spychief, Kyrylo Budanov, also has better ratings than the president (+45%).
The same polling suggests Mr Zelensky risks losing a presidential election were he ever to go head to head with his commander-in-chief.
He’s being the first reporter listening daily (with some meanings or suggestions of himself), but:
https://rumble.com/v3yj6z7-russia-is-preparing-for-a-long-war.-assault-operations-have-resumed.-milita.html
– for example is a well latest known overall (even CIA/MI extended plans),’ whats going “today”.
– Some of your MoA’s here may find “these reports” by Dima as some of any ill-leaded news’.
Note:
That’s not the best news by anywhome declared/published here ..
But it’s one of the best today .. Working+Working twice a day – who is it? – sampling the latest infos .. who UAF/RF would do ‘that’?
Think about .. UKR/RF war has not yet being stopped .. not yet by either side ..
RF has more intelligent weapons to fight a long-planned war against UKR.
Sure, USA will respond in 2024, but with “what capabilities” ..?
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 18:06 utc | 15
Posted by: crematoriums | Nov 29 2023 16:05 utc | 9
Thanks for that report. Now you know where most if not all the MIAs are…
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 29 2023 18:11 utc | 16
“Ru is running out of missiles!”
Translation:
“Russia is firing so many missiles, their production capability won’t be able to meet demand.”
Since that is OUR circumstance, its got to be the same for them! After all, we’re better, smarter and exceptional! – The US Ziocon War Cabinet Brain Trust.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 29 2023 18:12 utc | 17
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 17:15 utc | 13
Apparently, Nietzsche’s will to power is real and Zelensky is retaining power against his own self interest.
He acts a good game, Zelenskyy, but he’s always struck me as a bit of a puppet, even if an ambitious one.
Is he clinging on to power because he himself wants it, or because his Western (and ethno-nationalist) masters demand it?
Posted by: Observer | Nov 29 2023 18:12 utc | 18
People still playing Ukraine? I thought the number of concurrent players on Steam had dwindled to zero.
Posted by: Marielle Redclaw | Nov 29 2023 18:16 utc | 19
It helps me when the Palestinian thread is kept separate from the Ukraine thread. But the two do interact when it comes to the loss of Western diplomatic credibility. In the space of a few years the world saw the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle, what is now becoming recognised even in the West as the Ukrainian debacle, and now the disaster in Gaza.
In looking at the human cost one tends to forget the diplomatic cost. But all this combined is the greatest setback for the West ever. Not only for the US. For the West. With massive American and European naval forces in the region and non-stop arms deliveries to Israel the world can see clearly we’ve taken sides.
TTG on Turcopolier posted some statements from an Israeli, statements that connected Ukraine and Gaza directly.
“An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine. Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus in Israel’s Likud Party, appeared on Russia’s state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia’s war with Ukraine.
“While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that “we’re gonna finish this war, we’re going to win because we’re stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price.”
““Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price,” Weitmann said. “We’re gonna win this war. Afterwards, we’re not forgetting what you’re doing, we’re not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia.””
https://www.newsweek.com/israeli-official-issues-warning-putin-russian-state-tv-1836164
And if one links this to other comments from American politicians the effect is again disastrous. That is how it appears now and it is how it appeared at the very start. Tying the two issues of Israel and Ukraine together is surely a diplomatic error of the first order. So I commented on President Biden’s speech at the time:-
“I turned to President Biden’s speech looking for a clear statement of what the American response would be to the current Israeli/Palestinian conflict. But it kept veering off Israel and returning to the subject of Ukraine. By the end of the speech it was difficult to tell what subject the speech was actually about!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/10/20/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-unites-states-response-to-hamass-terrorist-attacks-against-israel-and-russias-ongoing-brutal-war-against-ukraine/
It’s maybe an effective speech for internal American consumption. Team Biden wants more aid for Ukraine and that’s getting trickier as time goes on. So tie that in with money for Israel and he gets both. With an appeal to pork barrel in case some dumb Congressman doesn’t get the message that what’s good for Raytheon is what’s good for American jobs:-
“We send Ukraine equipment sitting in our stockpiles. And when we use the money allocated by Congress, we use it to replenish our own stores — our own stockpiles with new equipment — equipment that defe- — that defends America and is made in America: Patriot missiles for air defense batteries made in Arizona; artillery shells manufactured in 12 states across the country — in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Texas; and so much more.”
And a nod to the our American – and also European – dislike of body bags. Body bags are for the proxies, the more the merrier if we can give the Russians a bloody nose, but not for us. We’re going to ensure our security and as a bonus we can do it without having to fight for it ourselves. No fear that our soldiers need die. The Ukrainians can do that for us:-
“It’s a smart investment that’s going to pay dividends for American security for generations, help us keep American troops out of harm’s way …”
So all the right buttons, ending up with the usual tribute to Madeleine Albright who, together with “Zbig”, is the current inspiration of Team Biden. Secretary of State Blinken made that clear not long ago in a keynote address:-
“Dr. Brzezinski also believed that one of his most enduring contributions to international affairs was shaping America’s rising scholars and practitioners – including President Carter, who described himself as “an eager student” of Zbig; and Ian, Mark, Mika – all of whom have strived to bring us closer to what Zbig called the pragmatic fusion of American power with American principle.”
https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-remarks-to-the-johns-hopkins-school-of-advanced-international-studies-sais-the-power-and-purpose-of-american-diplomacy-in-a-new-era/
But those are the buttons to press when trying to persuade America that Team Biden is looking after American interests. As a message to the world, as a clear statement of how America stands on the crisis in Gaza, it’s a diplomatic disaster.
Team Biden, tunnel vision to the last, don’t seem to understand that the buttons that work in the States don’t necessarily work outside the West. They don’t necessarily work for the Saudis or for the Chinese or for many others. Tying the fight against Russia in with support for Israel is a slap in the face for most of the world. And Biden delivers it without even realising how counterproductive making that connection is.
Weitman, in the quote above, makes the same error, putting Russia, whether that’s the true Russian position or not, unequivocally in the anti-Israeli camp . ““Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price,” Weitmann said. “We’re gonna win this war. Afterwards, we’re not forgetting what you’re doing, we’re not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia.”
So too the Ukrainians. From Zelenski down asserting repeatedly that they stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel. Even the statue of Bandera, not in the past an Israeli icon, gets lit on Twitter though one hopes not in real life in the colours of the Israeli flag,
https://twitter.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1712812520296112616
This is what wrong with Biden’s speech and his response generally to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. He’s saying the fight against the Palestinians must be the fight against Russia and both must go together. However well that plays to the Christian Zionists and the Ukrainian diaspora in the US, or however well it convinces Congress, it’s the most maladroit diplomatic response to the bombing of Gaza that could be imagined.”
That is how it seemed to me at the start and I see no reason to change now what I wrote then. It will take a long time to restore Western credibility after this.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
Stoltenberg is the Age of Treason personified.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2023 16:46 utc | 11
One of the Giants of the Age of Entitlement.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 18:23 utc | 21
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 29 2023 18:12 utc | 17
“Ru is running out of missiles!”
Translation:
“Russia is firing so many missiles, their production capability won’t be able to meet demand.”
Since that is OUR circumstance, its got to be the same for them! After all, we’re better, smarter and exceptional! – The US Ziocon War Cabinet Brain Trust.
May be You’re right as You claimed: “their production capability won’t be able to meet demand”, but demand of “What”, destroying rest of livings – Your own space also – or “what” ? .. ?
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 18:23 utc | 22
>>Is he clinging on to power because he himself wants it, or because his Western (and ethno-nationalist) masters demand it?
Posted by: Observer | Nov 29 2023 18:12 utc | 18
Zelenskyy is starting to pick up criticism, plus he is much less able to get favorable attention from outside Ukraine. Given the declining support, I think no matter what it is they “demand,” it would be safer for him to depart. Using the election method would retain the appearance of a stable leadership, thus even if he is a puppet, it wouldn’t serve the interests of his handlers to have him killed.
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 18:26 utc | 23
He’s saying the fight against the Palestinians must be the fight against Russia and both must go together.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
Ukraine and Zionism have been a package deal ever since Ukraine became a thing under Canadian PM Stephen Harper.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 18:29 utc | 24
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 18:23 utc | 22
@17 :
May be You’re right as You claimed: “their production capability won’t be able to meet demand”, but demand of “What”, destroying rest of livings – Your own space also – or “what” ? .. ?
Your own “living space” may be outside of UKR + GAZA .. congratulation to You for that you’ve being alive outside those areas.
What You like to fight asgainst FOR or against whome (Hamas, IDF, IRAN, Hezbollah .. Indian/Thai/N-Korea Forces ?
I’ll sample recruit You as a new man/woman in Kiev’s new recruitment/recreation center, where all foreigners now are allowed to fight against Russia for a very good salary, nobody have feared to give his/her real identity (Swedish, Belgium, Netherland, German, France, Spain) !”!
Cheers !
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 18:38 utc | 25
20 – We are in a new Cold War and those are its lineaments.
Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 29 2023 19:07 utc | 26
Ukrainians are still eager to fight.
The war shall last long.
Unless Russia finally destroys Ukro electrical infrastructure. That is the way to finish the war with less civilians suffering and less soldiers dying.
Posted by: zorge | Nov 29 2023 19:10 utc | 27
Quisling stoltenberg now saying russia has a huge winter missile stockpike.
So i guess they finally ran out of (summer, spring and autumn) missiles.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 29 2023 19:12 utc | 28
So that’s it , for the first — Nothing more today.
Nothing more here about some “New Russian Anti-Tank” reconn-equipment, plus newest Night-vision Bomb-drones possibilties.
The “possibility” left now for the Mr. Blinken/USA is now to stop these wars operation actions – even in Black Sea by CIA Drones – asap.!
Otherwise, some Snipers will follow you “Your Best-CIA puppet Mr. Blinken” + Hillary Clinton OldLady (80years?) –
So go on Mister/Ms. @17 :
We’ll wait when IRAN steps into. ..
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:16 utc | 29
It will take a long time to restore Western credibility after this.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
I agree, but suggest the decline in “western credibility” has only justed started.
A little annoying for me as I live in the West and am British, and will have to suffer the consequences of the clowns in charge, and their ludicous delusional decisions. I mean, if you are going for global dominance, at least do it right….
Posted by: marcjf | Nov 29 2023 19:18 utc | 30
@unimperator
Continuing from the previous Ukraine thread, could you please answer my question?
Where have you read claims that Finland won against russia in the second world war, or the great patriotic war, whatever you like to call it?
Because that is something that I have only seen once, in your comment.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 29 2023 19:19 utc | 31
The idea that Ukraine’s senior command had the ability or daring to execute the complex and risky venture of blowing up the pipelines without involving the U.S. beggars belief, writes Jonathan Cook.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/29/the-nord-stream-lies-just-keep-coming/
Posted by: bevin | Nov 29 2023 19:20 utc | 32
https://t.me/milinfolive/111666
A view from a drone of the village of Krynki on the left bank of the Dnieper, where units of the Naval Forces Marine Corps were able to organize a small bridgehead and eventually found themselves locked there without the opportunity to develop their success further.
As you can see, most of the buildings have already been destroyed by Russian artillery fire, UMPC and LMUR strikes. The places where the enemy can still hide and hold the defense are becoming fewer and fewer every day. Personnel: @romanov_92
(Viewer discretion advised)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-makes-new-push-to-defeat-russia-s-electronic-warfare/ar-AA1kHE02
Ukraine makes new push to defeat Russia’s electronic warfare …
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 29 2023 19:29 utc | 33
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 29 2023 19:19 utc | 31
..Where have you read claims that Finland won against russia in the second world war, or the great patriotic war, whatever you like to call it? ..
You may think, Finland is a really multi-cultural Sate now .. but now has to oppose the Russian people everywhere unidentified or what else from hearing ..
You – FINLAND – just have closed 100% Your borders to Russia .. WHY ?
You (Finland) are a very piece of crazy – even all has paid with credit-card – Musk greets you ! -You are very trans-Human like States, that’s good in Finland, but not in GAZA.
So, Mr. Piano-Player Elendsky in Kieww should now consider how to escape to his/her ÄBungalows in Greece or elsewhere in S-America, perhaps Dubai ..
Thanks for listening my proposals ..
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:31 utc | 34
@Posted by: crematoriums | Nov 29 2023 16:05 utc | 9
The Ukrainian leadership becomes more and more like some dark movie villain, now even cremating the bodies of its own soldiers for a buck or two (what next Soylent Green?), after stealing their equipment to sell on the black market, and forcing them to pay for their own equipment. Utterly corrupt to the core. We can add of course the torture of prisoners of war and unfortunate members of the Ukrainian population, as well as assassinations. Then there is the demolition of the massive dam on the Dniepr. The war crimes tribunal at the end of this, which I am sure Russia will set up, will have a huge amount of work. The Ukrainian fascists and the Israeli Zionists seem to be competing for the Devil’s Oscar for most evil regime, with the US as the puppeteer.
@Posted by: librul | Nov 29 2023 16:06 utc | 10
I am not sure that MLK and Mandela would want to be in the same sentence as the deeply racist colonist Churchill, a man whose reputation far outstretches his reality.
This war needs to end in a cleansing of the Azov, Right Sector etc. lunatics and as a real defeat for the West. In many ways the West saved Putin from himself in early 2022, throwing away a victory on the negotiating table and allowing the West to once again renege on its agreement later. Then there would have just been another Ukrainian war a few years down the road, and the West would have been freed up to focus on China. With the continuation of the conflict, Europe is in long term decline, the West’s armouries have been emptied, its coffers denuded, and its weakness exposed. At the same time Russia was strengthened, especially in the national alignment of its population and the true exposure to them of the West’s hatred for Russia. The war needs to grind on until Ukraine collapses and any rump state becomes a vassal of Russia, while more and more elections in Europe return those rejecting the Ukraine war (but unfortunately not Zionism) and the undemocratic power of the EU bureaucracy.
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:31 utc | 34
hmm, did you have something to say?
All I could see/hear, was your mouth frothing, when you try knock down straw men I never said, placing me in places I’ve never been, implying things I never said.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 29 2023 19:44 utc | 36
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Summary for 29 Nov 2023 by 19:05⚡️
🔹In #Kherson Direction, the AFU still retain a foothold in #Krynki, but thanks to the actions of our units, the enemy’s zone of control has noticeably decreased. During the night, AFU groups unsuccessfully tried to attack our positions from the southwestern outskirts. According to a number of estimates from the field, 300 to 400 AFU militants remain in the village. Ours are making it as difficult as possible to replenish their ranks.
🔹In #Zaporozhye Direction, the work of artillery activity does not decrease, there is no shortage of ammunition in the AFU. Hopefully, our army has no shortage either. During the next counterattack our military pushed the AFU from a number of positions near #Rabotino. Several AFU units were defeated near #Kopani. Our troops are advancing on the #Rabotino – #Kopani line.
🔹In #SouthDonetsk Direction, our forces continue to pressure the enemy on the outskirts of #Staromayorskoye. Also our fighters have fully occupied the forest belt to the west of the village.
🔹In #Donetsk Direction, on the northern flank of #Avdeevka, our army has so far rested on the Coke Plant. Judging by the shift of our attacks to the north, along the railway track and the battles, with which ours are pushing the AFU away from the heap, our army does not intend to storm the territory of the Coke Plant, which has been turned into a powerful fortification. On the southern flank, in the area of #Severnoye, the Russian army took control of an important height and continues to storm the positions of the AFU, which they have occupied since the ATO. The enemy notes the activity of artillery from our side and strong air support. To date, the Russian army is aimed at maximum complication of the supply of the AFU garrison with simultaneous methodical advance.
🔹In #Bakhmuth Direction, the news of the day is that our army has liberated #Khromovo (#Artyomovskoye). The fighting for the village had been going on since mid spring. The Wagnerians tried very hard to occupy the village in order to cut the supply of the AFU from Chasov Yar. Then they only managed to keep the supply route under fire control. Now our military is building on their success, and the forest belt to the north of the village has also been taken under control. Not so long ago the situation around the city was quite different. Our forces managed to seize the initiative and make significant advances.
🔹In #Svatovo Direction, fighting continues near #Sinkovka. The fighters of our grouping West have entered the northern outskirts of the village. Fighting for this tiny village has been going on for a long time, but no confident control has been achieved. Now we are once again trying to gain a foothold. To the east, there are positional battles near #Kislovka, without much success so far. At #Zagoruykovka and #Timkovka, our forces are pushing the enemy back. Ours have slightly touched the front near #Svatovo, the enemy is shelling #Kremennaya in response.
Posted by: Down South | Nov 29 2023 19:48 utc | 37
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:31 utc | 34
Finland = Blue Swastika
https://t.me/rybar/54587
🇫🇮🇪🇺🇵🇱 In confirmation of the morning words about tension on the Russian-Finnish border, we would like to note the high intensity of NATO reconnaissance aircraft flights in this zone.
Over the past 24 hours, from Poland to the Barents Sea, nine NATO aircraft and drones were in the air, conducting reconnaissance of the northern Russian regions.
Moreover, all this is carried out under the pretext of several exercises that take place in Poland, the Baltic states and Finland, as well as in the Baltic Sea.
And now all these breakdowns in relations, border closures and increasingly frequent NATO training are causing déjà vu. We observed something similar after 2014 in one famous country.
🇫🇮🇸🇪 Fishermen write that the intelligence of NATO countries has increased the intensity of aerial reconnaissance under the pretext of exercises conducted, including on the territory of the newly formed member – Finland.
I would like to add that during yesterday’s so-called Freezing Winds event, which colleagues have already written about, we worked out a very interesting scenario: a little bit of a blockade of the Baltic Sea.
The point is simple – in the event of a crisis in the region, shipping through the Baltic and Gulf of Finland will be blocked by NATO countries, which will leave Russian ports and bases isolated from the outside world.
And if civil shipping is at least functioning in the Black Sea, which allows for trade, then in the Baltic a more radical option is being considered for completely closing the route, which will also affect the Russian economy.
🇫🇮🇷🇺 A few more words about the growing tension in the area of the border between Russia and Finland.
In addition to the intensification of reconnaissance flights from NATO countries, another extraordinary event occurred. The defense ministers of the countries of the Joint Expeditionary Force (JEF) on November 28 introduced the “response level” for the first time.
In this regard, the EEC countries will send additional forces and assets to the Baltic region in early December in order to “protect critical underwater infrastructure and deter hybrid threats.”
📌 Let us remind you that the UEC is a military coalition led by Great Britain, formed in 2014. The union includes Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Sweden and Norway. During 2023, members of the association developed ways to respond to crisis situations to ensure regional security.
🔻Such measures within the framework of the OEC should be considered as the next stage in preparation for a possible increase in tension in the Arctic region.
#Great Britain #Russia #Finland
@rybar in collaboration with @oldGBR
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 29 2023 19:48 utc | 38
Russia is deploying a Friend or Foe system to identify its own drones along the front. With the poliferation of these things at the front the ability to identify friendlies has become problematic. Silent running is another hurdle yet to be addressed.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 29 2023 19:48 utc | 39
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 29 2023 19:29 utc | 33
.. Ukraine makes new push to defeat Russia’s electronic warfare
Really, what kind of a “push to defeat” you effevtively You meant above ?
I cannot “see” any new technical UAF Reconn-Methods to improve its own UAF front-line stationed brigades/squad fighters.
Those are dying a very “un-serious” dead. Nobody’s body will be returned.
But – no one in UAF soldiers belief to gain any further success by its current suicide measures.
No one can – aside of that frontier now – OK?
Note: You MoA’s listening here by TV – havn’t yet being on front day-by-the-day.
Does not matter – but Truth should be the truth, from either side (even from Trump or Putin ..)
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:59 utc | 40
Nazilensky named ‘dreamer of the year’ by POLITICO
Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2023 14:03 utc | 1
Nazilensky?
A large number of Hitlers officers were Jewish
Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field marshals and 10 generals, “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.” In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest military honor, he said.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-12-24-mn-12209-story.html%20
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:07 utc | 41
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 29 2023 19:19 utc | 31
..Where have you read claims that Finland won against russia in the second world war, or the great patriotic war, whatever you like to call it? ..
And when i am at it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_and_Mannerheim_recording
So Finland are definitely joining the rigth organization
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:11 utc | 42
….A real death factory has been set up by the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the Kostyantynivka bone burning plant….
crematoriums | Nov 29 2023 16:05 utc |9
So why not send some of the low cost drones to destroy the fuel depots/pipelines supplying fuel for the crematorium and stop and expose its operations. Request an inspection by the International Red Cross.
Verification of UAF cremating dead soldiers and then identifying them as MIA could be the real game changer. It’s not so much the higher ups keeping the dead’s salaries as denying their surviving families their benefits. That may be the substantive political issue for both the civilian government and military.
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 29 2023 20:21 utc | 43
Where have you read claims that Finland won against russia in the second world war, or the great patriotic war, whatever you like to call it?
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 29 2023 19:19 utc | 31
Russia’s war with Finland started at the beginning of WWII and was over well before the close of the Great Patriotic War. Given the size and resources, the Fins did exceptionally well against the Russians, but ultimately settled in a peace treaty that caused Finland to lose a small amount of territory. The outcome not commonly taken as a a victory for Finland, except in the emotional sense. The did an impressive job of resisting.
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 20:30 utc | 44
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:07 utc | 41
Nazilensky named ‘dreamer of the year’ by POLITICO
Nazilensky?
A large number of Hitlers officers were Jewish
> Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2023 14:03 utc | 1
So may be some careful furtheron how to use Your “Jewish” words here .. in the virtual public German Space.
But you may be right here.
But nothing has to do here whether You are a “Jewish” or Christ or Moslem.
All parts of European’s people have understood that there should be any displacement of either religion oriented guys/girls.
Moslem is Muslime (Mohammed), Christ is JESUS (know what year is still today: 2023), and Buddha a most sophisticated Ghost over all of us, since 500 years before Jesus Christ).
All those, you Mr. Nethan-Yahoo , you have being ignored all the months til now 2023-11-29 – But now You Mr. N-Yahoo may feel like a little looser .. Wait why ..
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 20:30 utc | 45
Ukraine and Zionism have been a package deal ever since Ukraine became a thing under Canadian PM Stephen Harper.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 18:29 utc | 24
Things are not always as they seems:
A long read where the family-lines of the Nazi-leaders are examined:
http://mileswmathis.com/hiller.pdf
“It has never been explained where the word Nazi came from. Wikipedia tells you to this day it comes from the German pronunciation of the word “national”. Right. And you believe that? Given what we learned above, maybe now you can see the truth: Nazi is simply a shortening of the word Ashkenazi.”
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:31 utc | 46
“It has never been explained where the word Nazi came from.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:31 utc | 46
I forget the translation, but Nazi is shortened version of the name of the party that Hitler joined. (Maybe it should be written NAZI to be literal. Not sure about that.) Some people make a big fuss over the fact that it was a leftist, socialist party at first. Pure BS to think that important. Hitler’s emphatic speaking style ballooned the membership up like crazy, and all of the new members were brought in by Hitler. He completely dominated the party. What the original members who formed the party wanted had zero impact on the party as it developed under Hitler.
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 20:39 utc | 47
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:31 utc | 46
Nazi is simply a shortening of the word Ashkenazi.
Use of “Sozi” for “Sozialdemokrat” or “Sozialist” and of “Nazi” for “nationaler Sozialist” is well-known from the 1920s/30s. The Ashkenazis are a red herring.
By the way, the childish reasoning “nazis are a form a communists, you can see it in their name: national *socialist*” still exists and can be observed in this very forum. There was a speech by one Ritter von Epp (clearly aristocracy) in the Reichstag before Machtergreifung and someone from the left heckled him: “Socialist Ritter von Epp”, to which he replied “yes, but national socialist, not international socialist”. Words are malleable and nazis are not socialists, even if they pretend to be (sometimes convincingly, see the Strasser brothers).
Posted by: Konami | Nov 29 2023 20:43 utc | 48
It has never been explained where the word Nazi came from.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:31 utc | 46
I forget the translation, but Nazi is shortened version of the name of the party that Hitler joined. (Maybe it should be written NAZI to be literal. Not sure about that.) Some people make a big fuss over the fact that it was a leftist, socialist party at first. Pure BS to think that important. Hitler’s emphatic speaking style ballooned the membership up like crazy, and all of the new members were brought in by Hitler. He completely dominated the party. What the original members who formed the party wanted had zero impact on the party as it developed under Hitler.
Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 29 2023 20:39 utc | 47
Supporters of the NSDAP were called Nazis. (‘NAtionalsoZIalistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei’) Socialists or Social Democrats are similarly referred to as Sozis (SOZIalist). Today the term Nazi is used for anyone with right-wing ideas, or simply as an insult.
Posted by: 600w | Nov 29 2023 20:56 utc | 49
I think we should be a little bit more fixed to the subject of this special ‘Ukraian War Forum’,
the “Ukraine Open Thread 2023-288” .. ok?
Means eg. to the further agricultural / farmers living beside military bombing and mining actions.
That’s also an issue to the UN + its several “Child-Helper” institutions, even occupied by Gates+Musk etc. crazy trans-human think tanks.
Trump come-up, but THEN: End the WAR – everywhere in the world !
Sorry, is only ahope to stop recruting female + childish Ukranian persons to be slauthered on a front that won’t exist anymore !
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Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 20:57 utc | 50
For those who are confused about the NAZI program, read Mein Kampf. It is racialism at its core. Hitler frequently compared the pathetic state of German people, whom despite their obvious racial superiority were 2nd fiddle at best to the Jews who control all power that is not Aryan. To think it is “socialist” or “Marxist” is absurd. Internationalism is a Jew conspiracy to delute the master race. Now take your Jews, they know how to maintain racial purity.
Posted by: Zargo | Nov 29 2023 21:09 utc | 51
“So may be some careful furtheron how to use Your “Jewish” words here .. in the virtual public German Space.
But nothing has to do here whether You are a “Jewish” or Christ or Moslem.”
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 20:30 utc | 45
Yes, I agree, but when the Zionist claims that Hamas and Russia is Nazi!
“Weitman, in the quote above, makes the same error, putting Russia, whether that’s the true Russian position or not, unequivocally in the anti-Israeli camp . ““Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price,” Weitmann said. “We’re gonna win this war. Afterwards, we’re not forgetting what you’re doing, we’re not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia.”
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
Well it migth be ok to point out who is figthing against and who is figthing with the Nazi’s.
And what is the difference between Nazism and Zionism? Choosen people both. One ideology based on Nordic Myths- Zionism based om religios myths.. Zel- based on nordic/german myths, with a strong anti-Slavic bias. Mussolini build his ideology on the Roman Empire myths.
Facism comes in at least 50 shades of gray.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 21:10 utc | 52
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 21:10 utc | 52
.. Facism comes in at least 50 shades of gray. ..
Exactly, that’s the problem we have nowadays.
Whether B-Bock stupid green girl (DE-EU), nor Nuland/Biden/Hillary(US-NATO) nor the big Israeli Nethan(Nathan the Wise?, IDF)
could avoid a big world’s disaster, if anything “going wrong” with the currently acting “Power States”, like Russia, China, India.
Pls. don’t forget this – Dear CIA guys + girls.
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 21:26 utc | 53
Anyone interested in the Russian view of what “total mobilization” during WWII looked like can check out the film “Convoy 48” on Amazon streaming service. Running trains to Leningrad in 1943 after the siege was broken.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 29 2023 21:49 utc | 54
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 21:10 utc | 52
And what is the difference between Nazism and Zionism?
Not sure if this is a rhetorical question. A major difference is that Nazi Germany started a war that led to around 27 million dead Soviet citizens and built human slaughterhouses killing more millions of people.
I am aware of the facts that concentration camps are not a German invention and that millions of casualties are not unheard of (for example, starvation in UK colony India). Quite possible that other imperialist regimes would have done exactly the same as Nazi Germany as soon as the technical capabilities were at hand. But Germany executed the plan. Also note that they did all of this in the stunningly short time of 12 years (actually much less because 1933-1939 was all preparation).
No matter how fascist the politics and sound from current Israel (and it is fascist, in my opinion), the Nazi German benchmark should not be marginalised.
Choosen people both.
True but that’s a mainstay of all totalitarian ideologies and perhaps even of all ideologies. For example, the US Americans have these marvels: “indispensible nation”; “shining city on the hill”, “God’s own country” (used by presidents of either ‘party’) — chosen people speak.
Posted by: Konami | Nov 29 2023 22:04 utc | 55
Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 29 2023 15:50 utc | 8
Churchill certainly wasn’t a “vicious anti Russian” in WW2, he drove his military chiefs to distraction with his many schemes to help Russia in her military crises between June 1941 and December 1942. Invasion of North Norway was his favourite, to provide air bases which could cover the sea routes to Russia – his staff weren’t having it. But thousands died running the Arctic Convoys, bringing tanks and aircraft to Russia via Murmansk or Archangel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy_PQ_17
“Of the 34 ships which had left Iceland, 23 were sunk; two British, four American, one Panamanian and two Russian merchant ships reached Arkhangelsk.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 29 2023 22:21 utc | 56
@Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 29 2023 22:21 utc | 56
Churchill was viciously anti-communist, as well as being a racist bigot. Once France was defeated he understood he needed to support the Soviet Union for tactical reasons (i.e. to help defeat the Nazis and keep the Nazis busy in the East), but as soon as those reasons went away with the defeat of Germany he immediately pivoted back to wanting to invade and destroy the Soviet Union and went full in with his “Iron Curtain” speech in 1946. Perfidious Albion is not called that for nothing.
Lets remember that earlier in the war the Brits had planned to bomb the Baku oil fields and to aid Finland in its war against the Soviet Union.
“Churchill was viciously anti-communist”
I was saying he wasn’t anti-Russian, which a previous poster alleged. To be fair, by 1941 he’d seen the Russian Revolution, the Spanish Civil War, and the 1930s purges under Stalin. He said of the Spanish Civil War, in which he advocated British neutrality, so his anti-communism was pretty measured.
“Naturally I was not in favour of the Communists. How could I be, given that if I was Spanish they would have murdered me and murdered all my friends?”
“Lets remember that earlier in the war the Brits had planned to bomb the Baku oil fields and to aid Finland in its war against the Soviet Union.”
Let’s then also remember that the Prime Minister at the time these plans were drawn up was Neville Chamberlain, not Churchill.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 29 2023 23:20 utc | 58
re: Churchill and the USSR/Russia
It was Churchill who instigated the planning for the aborted Operation Unthinkable (which envisioned wide scale nuclear bombing of Russia).
Posted by: robjira | Nov 29 2023 23:29 utc | 59
Military summary update.
RUAF made lot of gains in 3 (!) adjacent NE/SW axis NW of Artemovsk. And they basically captured Khromove.
Also the RBK-500 bombings west of Avdeevka seems to made a difference and allowed RUAF improve positions closer to Severne. The southern area and western area of Avdeevka could probably be pushed back in tandem, since the two AFU brigades there are closely linked to each other and one of them was bombed in the field around Stepove and maybe forced to move back.
RUAF left the position in Stepove as there was bad weather preventing drone usage but they already began re-bombardment of the Stepove-Berdychi cluster.
RUAF might be focusing on attack on Novokalinove-Keramik villages too. They also managed to move closer from the east of those villages. Avdeevka might not be the primary target currently, the focus is more in the north and west of it now.
RUAF is close to taking the hill west of Staramayorsk and isolating it from the west. If they get the hill, AFU will be forced to step back under heavy fire.
RUAF has wrecked the AFU concentration of vehicles and troops north of Novopokrovka. AFU planned to launch another assault on Novopokrovka.
Krynky is under huge concentration of FAB-500 strikes, but RUAF refrains from directly assaulting it yet. RUAF already completely controls the rivers around it.
AFU continues making videos of amphibious assault exercise from Kherson, one BMP sank in the river.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 29 2023 23:35 utc | 60
For example, the US Americans have these marvels: “indispensible nation”; “shining city on the hill”, “God’s own country” (used by presidents of either ‘party’) — chosen people speak.
Posted by: Konami | Nov 29 2023 22:04 utc | 55
Yes, fifty shades of gray
As for the consentra- zion camps- they where not the initial part of the Hitler ideology- but a result of that ideology, the final solution- as Gaza is.
There is a difference between idiologies and how their “problems” are dealt with.
How to execute the final solution, gaza/west bank/ the bantustans, jenin- auswitch- Shantilla, us indians- indonesia, Opium in china…. ?
Deceases, burning, starving, outrigth killing- the City of London have the complete manual- and are willing to give it to anybody who needs advice.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 23:48 utc | 61
Arestovich dropping more truth bombs.
https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1729928113318940758
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 0:00 utc | 62
TTG on Turcopolier posted some statements from an Israeli, statements that connected Ukraine and Gaza directly.
“An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine. Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus in Israel’s Likud Party, appeared on Russia’s state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia’s war with Ukraine.
“While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that “we’re gonna finish this war, we’re going to win because we’re stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price.”
““Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price,” Weitmann said. “We’re gonna win this war. Afterwards, we’re not forgetting what you’re doing, we’re not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia.””
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
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Not that I think any human can be taken lightly, but when people rant like this and make public threats, it’s a clear sign that they are not a serious threat. Real threats are quiet.
One minor party Israeli race supremacist is going to punish Russia? Has he never heard of Volodyk Zelenskyy, who has literally made his entire life about punishing Russia with full NATO backing and American ISR?
Israel cannot even fight a militia formed and organized in one of their concentration camps. The notion that Israel poses a threat to anyone substantial is as laughable as Lindsey Graham being Washington DC’s most eligible bachelor or Joe Biden getting invited to join MENSA in 2023.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 0:05 utc | 63
Ukraine and Zionism have been a package deal ever since Ukraine became a thing under Canadian PM Stephen Harper.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 29 2023 18:29 utc | 24
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Both have racial supremacism in common. Two countries filled with low-IQ losers who think they are the chosen race.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 0:10 utc | 64
Looking at the latest update from Dima and the past few weeks of updates, it seems pretty obvious that the Russians are slowly but surely bending the Ukrainian defenders to breaking point. We have the controlled and steady advances in Avdiivka, now the gains north of Artymovsk, the gains near Kupyansk – all along the front there are fires for the Ukies to fix that drain their reserves. If the Russians were to get Chasiv Yar as well as Avdiivka it would be a real nightmare for the Ukies.
Once one of the areas of pressure starts to really break will the Russians rapidly reinforce to drive the breakthrough, which is normal Russian doctrine, or will they just keep up the slaughter – drawing in more and more Ukie forces like a moth to a flame? With winter the ground will be solid and the trees denuded, and a white background for the Ukies (without winter uniforms) to stand out against. With the increasing Russian advantages in drones and artillery things could rapidly turn into a Ukie slaughterhouse.
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 29 2023 20:21 utc | 43
###################
Expose the Ukrainians to who?
Anyone who isn’t plugged into the Matrix already knows, and the Matrix is never going to cover a story about Ukraine for a Western audience that highlights its failures until a few years after the war when the legacy-protecting narratives will begin.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 0:13 utc | 66
Black Mountain Analysis dropped a new analysis. Too much goodies for a day.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/geopolitics-update-i-1d3
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 0:19 utc | 67
@Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 0:00 utc | 62
Arestovich must be a dead man walking talking truths like this.
Supporters of the NSDAP were called Nazis. (‘NAtionalsoZIalistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei’) Socialists or Social Democrats are similarly referred to as Sozis (SOZIalist). Today the term Nazi is used for anyone with right-wing ideas, or simply as an insult.
Posted by: 600w | Nov 29 2023 20:56 utc | 49
No acronyms need to be contrived-
If you use google to translate english word national into german sound, it comes out as naht-zee-o-nal- that is where the NAZI pronounciation comes from and not a made up acronym of selected letters!
Posted by: william paul | Nov 30 2023 0:32 utc | 69
Perhaps Finland, after the Ukraine, has been designated the next country to have its statehood dissolved defend against the “Russian menace.”
Posted by: Matthew | Nov 30 2023 0:54 utc | 70
I wonder if the veritable geniuses in the ZioNazi-NATO command realize that the Russian Federation has planned for all eventualities, including the attempted escape of war criminals currently serving in the highest echelons of the Ukrainian junta? That means hunter-killer teams — yes, sleeper cells — stationed in any and all potential extraterritorial destinations of said war criminals. The Ukraine, Poland, Germany, heck, the whole of Europe, plus every single one of the Five Eyes, Argentina (a recent addition with the rise of the fascist and newly Talmudist Milei), and of course Occupied Palestine where the AshkeNazis are presently running a genocidal safari hunt on the innocent indigenous peoples. Perhaps add Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay, too, since quite a few of WWII’s ethnic supremacist NSDAPers disappeared into that broad geographic area.
Posted by: Matthew | Nov 30 2023 1:27 utc | 71
Some videos for today.
Russian Black Sea Fleet warship fires four Kalibr cruise missiles at Kiev regime military targets:
https://rutube.ru/video/713bbc242586f02eebf27466b18211ff/
Russian airborne forces storm enemy position north of the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/948ee9fc0de327d00f3b5401f36a9f4c/
Russian drone-corrected artillery fire strikes enemy position near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/02f5a9a054c23a9beb20c9720df5dde0/
Russian Mi-28 assault helicopter in action near Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/e793093d217144882307816e6e5204e3/
Russian marine provides air defense for troops near Ugledar:
https://rutube.ru/video/e2984194d0d5c10963c443d4a08e4c7b/
Posted by: Nate | Nov 30 2023 1:56 utc | 72
Maria zakharova has struck back at Bulgaria trying to ban her from flights over their territory
Now, on a serious note, this goes beyond mere stupidity; it delves into the dangerous realm of a certain schemer within Bulgaria’s power structures. The rules of air traffic, governed by the 1944 Chicago Convention on International Civil Aviation, define a state’s territory as “land territories and adjacent territorial waters,” excluding airspace from this term.
Consequently, the impact of the already illegal EU sanctions cannot extend to non-stop flights by an individual prohibited from entering the state’s territory.
Did Bulgarian officials consider the potential application of similar measures to the thousands of NATO functionaries on our reciprocal stop lists? Did they ponder the creation of a perilous global precedent? I think not.
Posted by: Hankster | Nov 30 2023 3:27 utc | 73
https://t.me/HAMASVIDEOS/8319
Hahahahahaha
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 30 2023 3:32 utc | 74
Paul from Norway | Nov 29 2023 20:31 utc | 46
“It has never been explained where the word Nazi came from. Wikipedia tells you to this day it comes from the German pronunciation of the word “national”. Right. And you believe that? Given what we learned above, maybe now you can see the truth: Nazi is simply a shortening of the word Ashkenazi.”
The origin of many words is obscure, but based on what I can recall from my history lectures:
* The Nazis didn’t like being called “Nazis”. They considered it an derogatory. They insisted on “National Socialists”.
* Though, I believe Gobbels at one point suggested the abbreviation “Nat-So”, but dropped it when others in the party pointed out it sounded stupid.
* It was various political opponents who insisted on calling the Nazis “Nazis”. Partially because they knew it annoyed them; partially because it worked as a contraction of NationalsozIalistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party); and partially because it rhymed (somewhat) with “Fritzi” — who was a stock character in German comedy sketches, representing a naive and ignorant country bumpkin. Sort of like the way some posters here refer to Netanyahu as “Nutty-yahoo”.
The “Fritzi” comparison worked because most of the electoral support for the Nazis came from rural areas, so the urban sophisticates in Berlin liked to make fun of them as clueless and gullible. Sort of the way Americans living outside the big cites are called “deplorables”.
Actually, this urban-rural divide is quite common. I remember reading an article by Matt Taibbi in the eXile about how Putin supporters would show up in Moscow for rallies and be mocked by the Muscovites as yokels. Similarly, an election in Iran had the young urban dwellers in Tehran chanting “Death to the potato” as a way of mocking the rural voters who supported the incumbents because, they felt, they only did so because the government was bribing them with free potatoes as a food supplement.
The terms left and right in politics come from the seating at the French National Assembly in 1789 where the supporters of the Ancien Regime sat on the right side of the chamber and the supporters of the revolution on the left. However, that wasn’t the only division in the seating. There was also the Montgnards (the Mountain) and the Plaine (the Plain) or the Maraisards (the Marsh or the Swamp). The names reflect that the Montgnards sat on the uppermost benches of the Assembly and the Maraisards sat on the lower ones, near the debating floor. The Montgnard deputies represented mostly urban districts in Paris and promoted radical change, while the Maraisards represented rural areas and wanted a more gradualist approach.
I’ve often thought that Montgnard and Maraisard are slightly more useful ways of categorising political factions than left and right, but left and right is what everyone seems to prefer.
Posted by: Kukulkan | Nov 30 2023 4:47 utc | 75
Perhaps Finland, after the Ukraine, has been designated the next country to have its statehood dissolved defend against the “Russian menace.”
Posted by: Matthew | Nov 30 2023 0:54 utc | 70
Finland has no officially recognized borders at the moment. Its postwar borders were defined in the Treaty of Paris, which Finland unilaterally abrogated by joining NATO against the terms of the treaty. That is the larger context. The current “border crisis” is caused by Russia’s abrogation of its border cooperation agreement with Finland in response to a series of provocative actions by Finland such as banning the arrival of Russian passanger cars and, since yesterday, closing the border altogether. Once that agreement was trashed, Russia has had no obligation to check the papers of the asylum seekers heading for Finland. That is the “crisis”.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 5:39 utc | 76
Pretty much all Europe is cold.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-335.85,52.25,1490
If this holds energy prices will have to give.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 30 2023 5:51 utc | 77
@English Outsider | Nov 29 2023 18:19 utc | 20
@LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 0:05 utc | 63
Lets hope the Jews declare war against the Russians just like they, the Jews, declared war against the Nazi’s in the 1930’s, in 1933 to be precise if I remember correctly. Then peace maker Putin will have to make a definite decision about the Jews, right now Russia neither helps nor hinders Israel. As it is everything in Ukraine can rightfully be blamed on the tribe as Zelenzky is in charge there.
Posted by: gT | Nov 30 2023 6:15 utc | 78
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 30 2023 0:05 utc | 63
“Not that I think any human can be taken lightly, but when people rant like this and make public threats, it’s a clear sign that they are not a serious threat. Real threats are quiet.”
Correct. Another example is one Medvedev, whose drunken rants are not quite coherent.
I see unimperator has nothing to say. I consider the case closed, nobody has ever claimed/spinned that Finland won against russia in world war II.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 30 2023 6:21 utc | 79
The Telegraph
Nato can outlast Russia in Ukraine, David Cameron told allies on Wednesday, saying its combined economic might was 30 times greater than Moscow’s.
Addressing his first Nato meeting as Foreign Secretary, Lord Cameron called on member states to harness their collective advantage to deliver Kyiv enough weapons to defeat Vladimir Putin’s forces.
The meeting in Brussels came amid concerns in Ukraine over dwindling Western support while the conflict in Gaza continues.
However, Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of Nato, urged allies not to “underestimate Russia”.
He said allies should seek to sign more multi-year, multi-country deals to convince arms manufacturers to increase production to meet Ukraine’s demands for at least the next two years.
British manufacturer BAE Systems and 20 French defense firms have already opened operations in Ukraine with a view to eventually starting production there.
-Is he aware he had a whole city go bankrupt? The British version of “of course we can fund 2 wars”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/76424
Posted by: Down South | Nov 30 2023 7:09 utc | 80
Kissinger is dead!
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/29/henry-kissinger-death/
Posted by: jpc | Nov 30 2023 7:22 utc | 81
Posted by: Down South | Nov 30 2023 7:09 utc | 80
Saying the quiet part aloud, as they say:
Stoltenberg “said allies should seek to sign more multi-year, multi-country deals to convince arms manufacturers to increase production…”
Being in bed with arms industry does not even begin to cover it.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 8:00 utc | 83
ISW’s daily updates of the war have moved more and more away from covering any of the fighting in the war. Nearly all the coverage today was on Russian governmental, political and foreign relations issues. Today’s update contained one sentence outlining the seven or so areas where the Russians were on the offensive but saying nothing else.
ISW seems to have reached the point where there is no good news to tell from Ukraine anymore.
As far as the war goes, Ukraine seems to be throwing the last of its offensive units into defensive operations to hold the line at critical points.
Those units were already mostly in need of refit after the Great Counteroffensive of 2023. Once they are fully used up, Ukraine is going to be in alot of trouble. They will eventually reach a point where they have no reserves to throw into the line anymore.
Posted by: rpst | Nov 30 2023 8:14 utc | 84
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Nov 30 2023 6:21 utc | 79
It certainly was not believed to be a victory in the immediate aftermath, but over time many people are gaslighted into believing it a victory, while lot of people who were there know it really wasn’t.
But once they are all gone then there’s the next generation of brainwashed idiots. Gaslighting tactics, and implying without definitely saying is a huge portion how the propaganda apparatus works.
Kind of the same how US has gaslighted a lot if not most people in the west that they beat the Wehrmacht by itself and in the beaches of Normandy.
Or how people believe CO2 is “killing the planet, CO2 is the enemy”, when it’s not, it’s actually making the planet greener because plants feed on it. Or how they were gaslighted into believing all the untested covid-gene-therapy-is-good-for-you and it-stops-spread BS. You see, people can be made to believe things without absolute or definitive claims by simply implying and repeating, even without evidence.
Sometimes, believing it can be fatal. Those who made the claims will be nowhere to be seen once the job was done, usually with some suicidal purpose in mind.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:19 utc | 85
Engineer 6
Russia has also run out of tanks, socks and condoms, and is having to take microchips out of washing machines to put in their fighter jets. Russian troops, who are all paralytic drunk on vodka, have only their shovels left to fight with. Putin has died and been replaced with a body double, though he also has a plane on the tarmac fuelled up ready to fly him out to seek refuge in North Korea.[
Posted by: anon | Nov 30 2023 8:24 utc | 86
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 8:00 utc | 83
Stoltenberg is indirectly admitting they have no means to control production.
The only way to control production is to become an absolute/effective dictatorship, declare martial law and take control of industries. Otherwise they need to “convince” states to make purchasing contracts with each other to “convince” industry to produce more. That is the same as wagging the tail of the dog, or pushing with a string, or whatever analogy you want to use. They will not be able to increase output or it will happen very slowly, over time.
The states Stoltenberg is speaking about making purchasing contracts, are already de-facto bankrupt.
But in the case of EU, even that won’t help, because they can even keep basic consumer industries alive anymore in Europe. If there’s no lower level industries, like rubber, glass, steel, aluminum and all the other stuff that used a lot of gas for heating or energy purposes. And more recently the example of Michelin in Germany, then don’t even dream about “war economy”.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:29 utc | 87
It certainly was not believed to be a victory in the immediate aftermath, but over time many people are gaslighted into believing it a victory, while lot of people who were there know it really wasn’t.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:19 utc | 85
One might want to compare how often “Finland has kicked Russia’s ass” is used vs the opposite.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Nov 30 2023 8:33 utc | 88
Posted by: Poslan1 | Nov 30 2023 8:33 utc | 88
listen you buffoon, the supreme Finnish commander and the President of Finland was Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, he was a tsarist General, he and the rest of White Generals were screwing Russia, but failed,
Posted by: Grishka | Nov 30 2023 8:40 utc | 89
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:29 utc | 87
Another additional problem is Nato is only supplying Ukraine the bare minimum anymore. It seems there is no more conviction for Ukraine, so they are giving minimal amount of stuff.
The recent interview with Arestovich confirmed it.
Since there is no conviction for Ukraine, the only new contracts can come from re-armament programs, but they are hugely costly and require to dismantle portions of existing society structures to fund them. We will see how long that will work, especially, if one reduces welfare benefits from migrants, one could have very serious state-threatening problems in their hands. Either way, it’s a spiral of poverty and more problems down the road.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:43 utc | 90
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:29 utc | 87
It is too tempting to see Stoltenberg lobbying for European arms industry (which is in effect relished by The Telegraph) to dismiss it simply as a temptation. Nothing of what you say is untrue but neither is it unknown. It is the desperateness of the situation that is forcing Stoltenberg to lay more of his cards on the table.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 8:53 utc | 91
… Note: You MoA’s listening here by TV – havn’t yet being on front day-by-the-day.
…
Posted by: spare_truth2 | Nov 29 2023 19:59 utc | 40
Viewer discretion advised?
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 9:03 utc | 92
So hell’s getting that old bastard Henry K! Let’s hope it’s fiery. Time for a glass of bubbly.
Posted by: Vragtes | Nov 30 2023 9:30 utc | 93
It does indeed look as if the warm European Winter of 2022-2023 will not repeat this year. Models predict that Europe will be anomalously cold.
https://www.aer.com/contentassets/cdf3c4d13c104cc299828ed86a8ec8e0/image2ninp.png
More reporting from ==> https://chaipredict.com/resources/bracing-for-winter-europes-natural-gas-market
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The winter of 2022/23 defied expectations with its mildness, allowing Europe to conclude the season with unprecedented levels of unused gas storage. This year, while the urgency to refill storage capacity hasn’t matched last year’s frantic pace, analysts agree that the main risk for gas demand and prices across Europe hinges on the severity of the coming winter. John Kemp of Reuters highlights this, noting that Frankfurt’s temperatures have been consistently above seasonal averages, resulting in heating demands being almost 38% below average.
However, the forecast suggests a significant shift is imminent. Data from the Global Forecast System, a National Centers for Environmental Prediction (NCEP) weather prediction model, suggests that temperatures across Europe will be between 2 to 10 degrees Celsius below average in the week of Monday 4th December, as shown in the map below. Dropping temperatures across Europe will likely boost heating demands, exerting a bullish influence on gas prices. Yet, any price surges may be tempered by the current high storage levels.
… John Kemp projects that, based on average temperatures, gas stocks should hover around 50% at Winter’s end in 2023/24, and even in a colder scenario, levels should stay above 30%.
This resilience is partly due to a decrease in industrial activity across Europe.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 30 2023 9:59 utc | 94
“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons.”
Winston Churchill
Basically, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. He changed his tune in 1946 when he was out of power-in fact in a speech in 1946 he invented the term, “iron curtain”, to described the USSR’s hold on Eastern Europe.
UK leaders, then as now, are but creatures of the City of London.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/winston-churchills-iron-curtain-speech-march-5-1946#:~:text=Then%2C%20on%20March%205%2C%201946,for%20the%20next%2050%20years.
anon 86: But it must be true: Ukraine war:
“Russian reservists fighting with shovels – UK defence ministry
The MPL-50 is particularly mythologised in Russia, the UK defence ministry said (stock photo)
Russian reservists could be using “shovels” for “hand-to-hand” combat in Ukraine due to a shortage of ammunition, the UK’s Ministry of Defence says.
In late February, reservists described being ordered to assault a Ukrainian position “armed with only ‘firearms and shovels'”, the ministry said in its latest intelligence update. ….”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Nov 30 2023 10:12 utc | 96
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 30 2023 8:43 utc | 90
Keep your guard up, Arestovich is way worse than Zelensky, as in commissioning-videos-of-captured-Russian-prisoners-being-tortured worse.
With the amount of time he’s spent in Israel since the start of SMO, and this blatant “repositioning” of him, I’d say he could well be Israel’s Phase Two guy for the Israelification of Ukraine.
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 30 2023 10:14 utc | 97
Don’t they have a new lie to sell to us ?
Posted by: Engineer-John | Nov 29 2023 15:24 utc | 6
Try this one:
Guillaume Ancel: Russia is losing 1000 men every day to take Avdiivka which has NO strategic value.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 30 2023 10:51 utc | 98
robjira | Nov 29 2023 23:29 utc | 59
“It was Churchill who instigated the planning for the aborted Operation Unthinkable”
Correct, and the general staff reaction was that it was a foolish idea, because a lightning victory was very unlikely and that left a long WW3 as the option.
“which envisioned wide scale nuclear bombing of Russia”
As IIRC Churchill’s request was dated May 9th, at that time no working atom bombs existed, the Trinity test was July 16th and the US got two bombs ready for Japan by August. Churchill left power on July 5th, Britain only got news of the bomb working at the Potsdam conference. Note – the Americans weren’t informed about Operation Unthinkable.
Sheesh! There are many justifiable criticisms of Churchill, why do people need to make stuff up?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Nov 30 2023 11:01 utc | 99
Zelenskyi’s dilemma: how to wriggle out of presidential elections in which he risks getting beaten by two AI bots Zaluzhny and Budanov. And yes, how to still call the country a beacon of democracy even if it did not end up being run by a bot?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 30 2023 11:16 utc | 100