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November 9, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-266
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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https://t.me/rezident_ua/20426 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 14:40 utc | 1
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20426 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 14:40 utc | 2
Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 14:42 utc | 3
Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 14:42 utc | 4 The following would be a source for an assertion that certainly arouses interest. Of course, the usual scepticism regarding the truthfulness of the claim is not wrong. Posted by: 600w | Nov 9 2023 14:50 utc | 5 The following would be a source for an assertion that certainly arouses interest. Of course, the usual scepticism regarding the truthfulness of the claim is not wrong. Posted by: 600w | Nov 9 2023 14:50 utc | 6 Kim Dotcom on twitter.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 14:58 utc | 7 Kim Dotcom on twitter.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 14:58 utc | 8 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91103
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 9 2023 15:15 utc | 9 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91103
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 9 2023 15:15 utc | 10 Gammon Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:28 utc | 11 Gammon Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:28 utc | 12 size 00 buckshot Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2023 15:32 utc | 13 size 00 buckshot Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2023 15:32 utc | 14 Andrei Martynov reposts ….. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:34 utc | 15 Andrei Martynov reposts ….. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:34 utc | 16 Doctorow, who has a touching faith in the value of American education, argues to day that Russia’s -highly educated- commentariat understands exactly what the United States wants in Ukraine and is not buying any of it. Posted by: bevin | Nov 9 2023 15:37 utc | 17 Doctorow, who has a touching faith in the value of American education, argues to day that Russia’s -highly educated- commentariat understands exactly what the United States wants in Ukraine and is not buying any of it. Posted by: bevin | Nov 9 2023 15:37 utc | 18 Will the US-kraine press on with the fight, despite the futility and needless death of more Ukrainians? Quite possibly. Posted by: Figleaf23 | Nov 9 2023 15:45 utc | 19 Will the US-kraine press on with the fight, despite the futility and needless death of more Ukrainians? Quite possibly. Posted by: Figleaf23 | Nov 9 2023 15:45 utc | 20 @Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 14:58 utc | 4
This should definitely happen (I hope anyway). Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 15:51 utc | 21 @Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 14:58 utc | 4
This should definitely happen (I hope anyway). Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 15:51 utc | 22 “And Ukrainians who have gone abroad understand the current situation very well – between 1.3 million and 3.3 million people want to stay forever in the EU alone (not to mention other countries).” Posted by: Lux | Nov 9 2023 15:56 utc | 23 “And Ukrainians who have gone abroad understand the current situation very well – between 1.3 million and 3.3 million people want to stay forever in the EU alone (not to mention other countries).” Posted by: Lux | Nov 9 2023 15:56 utc | 24 @Lux | Nov 9 2023 15:56 utc | 12 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 16:01 utc | 25 @Lux | Nov 9 2023 15:56 utc | 12 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 16:01 utc | 26 The people that will soon be in urgent need of a home are the palestinians, not the israelis. Posted by: Pierrot | Nov 9 2023 16:08 utc | 27 The people that will soon be in urgent need of a home are the palestinians, not the israelis. Posted by: Pierrot | Nov 9 2023 16:08 utc | 28 I have the lowest possible respect for Van Der Liar. Posted by: scepticalSOB | Nov 9 2023 16:22 utc | 29 I have the lowest possible respect for Van Der Liar. Posted by: scepticalSOB | Nov 9 2023 16:22 utc | 30 it would be easy for them to get rid of Biden, just have whoever is responsible for making sure he doesn’t fall off the stage look aside at a crucial moment, via threat, blackmail, or bribery. same with zelensky, cut his coke supply with something deadly. Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:27 utc | 31 it would be easy for them to get rid of Biden, just have whoever is responsible for making sure he doesn’t fall off the stage look aside at a crucial moment, via threat, blackmail, or bribery. same with zelensky, cut his coke supply with something deadly. Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:27 utc | 32 @Dr. George W Oprisko Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 16:36 utc | 33 @Dr. George W Oprisko Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 16:36 utc | 34 @pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:27 utc | 16
A literal “downfall” moment… that would work. Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 16:41 utc | 35 @pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:27 utc | 16
A literal “downfall” moment… that would work. Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 16:41 utc | 36 they will probably attempt some sort of face-saving, investment-preserving peace agreement. Posted by: rk | Nov 9 2023 17:45 utc | 37 they will probably attempt some sort of face-saving, investment-preserving peace agreement. Posted by: rk | Nov 9 2023 17:45 utc | 38 Posted by: rk | Nov 9 2023 17:45 utc | 19 Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 9 2023 18:37 utc | 39 Posted by: rk | Nov 9 2023 17:45 utc | 19 Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 9 2023 18:37 utc | 40 Russia will never, ever allow Georgia to join NATO, not after the Ukrainian War now in its 10th year……………………. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 9 2023 18:57 utc | 41 Russia will never, ever allow Georgia to join NATO, not after the Ukrainian War now in its 10th year……………………. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 9 2023 18:57 utc | 42
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/72909 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 19:00 utc | 43
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/72909 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 19:00 utc | 44
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/72912 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 19:01 utc | 45
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/72912 Posted by: Down South | Nov 9 2023 19:01 utc | 46
https://t.me/remylind21/10370 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 9 2023 19:08 utc | 47
https://t.me/remylind21/10370 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 9 2023 19:08 utc | 48 Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2023 15:32 utc | 7 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 19:49 utc | 49 Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2023 15:32 utc | 7 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 19:49 utc | 50 Russian journalist and Moscow City Duma Deputy Chairman Andrey Medvedev on premature celebrations (November 6):
Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:04 utc | 51 Russian journalist and Moscow City Duma Deputy Chairman Andrey Medvedev on premature celebrations (November 6):
Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:04 utc | 52 Andrey Medvedev on Krynki (November 6):
Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:17 utc | 53 Andrey Medvedev on Krynki (November 6):
Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:17 utc | 54 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91103 Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 9 2023 20:51 utc | 55 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91103 Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 9 2023 20:51 utc | 56 Ursula von der Lying says the EU will arrange a special admission for the Ukraine, despite it being unlikely to command unanimity. Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Austria will object. Von der Lying says she has ways around Hungary blocking the €50 milliarden from the EU taxpayers for the Ukraine by “taking it from a different pocket”. Posted by: John Marks | Nov 9 2023 21:08 utc | 57 Ursula von der Lying says the EU will arrange a special admission for the Ukraine, despite it being unlikely to command unanimity. Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Austria will object. Von der Lying says she has ways around Hungary blocking the €50 milliarden from the EU taxpayers for the Ukraine by “taking it from a different pocket”. Posted by: John Marks | Nov 9 2023 21:08 utc | 58 Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:17 utc | 27 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:10 utc | 59 Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 20:17 utc | 27 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:10 utc | 60 On Ukrainian “refugees” returning from Europe: Will not happen, and that has nothing to do with mobilization. Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 9 2023 21:11 utc | 61 On Ukrainian “refugees” returning from Europe: Will not happen, and that has nothing to do with mobilization. Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 9 2023 21:11 utc | 62 Woof, from the above it looks to me like Moscow City Duma Deputy Chairman Andrey Medvedev had an opportunity to break the fourth wall, so to speak, turn to the cameras at his side, and not quote Churchill, by indirectly quoting him, lol. 😉 Posted by: Babel-17 | Nov 9 2023 21:14 utc | 63 Woof, from the above it looks to me like Moscow City Duma Deputy Chairman Andrey Medvedev had an opportunity to break the fourth wall, so to speak, turn to the cameras at his side, and not quote Churchill, by indirectly quoting him, lol. 😉 Posted by: Babel-17 | Nov 9 2023 21:14 utc | 64 @27 Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Nov 9 2023 21:34 utc | 67 @27 Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Nov 9 2023 21:34 utc | 68 Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 21:16 utc | 33 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:42 utc | 69 Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 21:16 utc | 33 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:42 utc | 70 Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Nov 9 2023 21:34 utc | 34 Posted by: Babel-17 | Nov 9 2023 21:49 utc | 71 Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Nov 9 2023 21:34 utc | 34 Posted by: Babel-17 | Nov 9 2023 21:49 utc | 72 “Ursula von der Lying says the EU will arrange a special admission for the Ukraine, despite it being unlikely to command unanimity. Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Austria will object. Von der Lying says she has ways around Hungary blocking the €50 milliarden from the EU taxpayers for the Ukraine by “taking it from a different pocket”. Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 9 2023 21:51 utc | 73 “Ursula von der Lying says the EU will arrange a special admission for the Ukraine, despite it being unlikely to command unanimity. Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Austria will object. Von der Lying says she has ways around Hungary blocking the €50 milliarden from the EU taxpayers for the Ukraine by “taking it from a different pocket”. Posted by: Feral Finster | Nov 9 2023 21:51 utc | 74 One thing to notice is the lack of western MSM reporting of this Dnieper river crossing, or Krynky. It has very few mentions, mostly in the Ukrainian media. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 9 2023 21:52 utc | 75 One thing to notice is the lack of western MSM reporting of this Dnieper river crossing, or Krynky. It has very few mentions, mostly in the Ukrainian media. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 9 2023 21:52 utc | 76 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2023 21:56 utc | 79 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2023 21:56 utc | 80 @Milites #35:
Russian Telegram channel Dva mayora on the situation at the Dnieper front (November 9; emphasis original):
Also, the ratio of Ukrainian losses to Russian losses at Krynki may not be what you think it is. Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 22:03 utc | 81 @Milites #35:
Russian Telegram channel Dva mayora on the situation at the Dnieper front (November 9; emphasis original):
Also, the ratio of Ukrainian losses to Russian losses at Krynki may not be what you think it is. Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 22:03 utc | 82 I don’t understand how Ukraine can keep pushing forward if they are supposedly sustaining heavy losses. Either the Russian side is lying about the number of Ukrainians killed/wounded thus far or the number of mercenaries/NATO troops in the Ukrainian army must be astronomical. Posted by: bored | Nov 9 2023 22:12 utc | 83 I don’t understand how Ukraine can keep pushing forward if they are supposedly sustaining heavy losses. Either the Russian side is lying about the number of Ukrainians killed/wounded thus far or the number of mercenaries/NATO troops in the Ukrainian army must be astronomical. Posted by: bored | Nov 9 2023 22:12 utc | 84 re: Dnieper / Kherson front Posted by: pxx | Nov 9 2023 22:20 utc | 85 re: Dnieper / Kherson front Posted by: pxx | Nov 9 2023 22:20 utc | 86 @Rudi Ruessel #34:
Source, please. Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 22:23 utc | 87 @Rudi Ruessel #34:
Source, please. Posted by: S | Nov 9 2023 22:23 utc | 88 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:42 utc | 35 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 10 2023 0:17 utc | 89 Posted by: Milites | Nov 9 2023 21:42 utc | 35 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 10 2023 0:17 utc | 90 Yes, the VSU has had some success on the left bank south of Kherson. It’s something but it doesn’t go anywhere because they’re towards the end of a peninsula. Where do they go from where they are, and how do they get there beyond tactical skirmishes? Some resupply is and will be possible, but not at the level of armored vehicles, fuel, food and ammunition for enough forces to fight their way off the peninsula. Posted by: Lex | Nov 10 2023 0:23 utc | 91 Yes, the VSU has had some success on the left bank south of Kherson. It’s something but it doesn’t go anywhere because they’re towards the end of a peninsula. Where do they go from where they are, and how do they get there beyond tactical skirmishes? Some resupply is and will be possible, but not at the level of armored vehicles, fuel, food and ammunition for enough forces to fight their way off the peninsula. Posted by: Lex | Nov 10 2023 0:23 utc | 92 Re: Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 15:51 utc | 11
Von see Leyen is GONE because her term ends in mid-2024. Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2023 0:32 utc | 93 Re: Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 9 2023 15:51 utc | 11
Von see Leyen is GONE because her term ends in mid-2024. Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2023 0:32 utc | 94 When talking about Dnieper, one should keep the scales of distance in mind. The Dnieper river itself is 160 km in length from Ochakov to the river bend where it starts heading north, around Berislav. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2023 0:49 utc | 95 When talking about Dnieper, one should keep the scales of distance in mind. The Dnieper river itself is 160 km in length from Ochakov to the river bend where it starts heading north, around Berislav. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2023 0:49 utc | 96 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 10 2023 0:17 utc | 45 Posted by: Military | Nov 10 2023 0:51 utc | 97 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 10 2023 0:17 utc | 45 Posted by: Military | Nov 10 2023 0:51 utc | 98 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Nov 10 2023 1:32 utc | 99 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Nov 10 2023 1:32 utc | 100 |
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