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November 1, 2023
Economist Fakes Political History Of Gaza

The Economist is faking history:

Bibi Netanyahu is the wrong man in the wrong placeEconomist – October 31, 2023

In the absence of clear government direction the Israeli defence establishment is doing all the planning. Its preferred solution is to see the PA ultimately return to Gaza, which it controlled until Hamas’s coup in 2007.


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There was no 'Hamas coup', neither in 2007 nor before or after it. But there was indeed a coup attempt in Gaza. It was led by Muhammad Dahlan of the Fatah, which was also leading the Palestinian Authority, who, with U.S. support, was trying to overthrow the legally elected Hamas government of Gaza.

The Gaza BombshellVanity Fair – March 3, 2008

After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, the author reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.

Then President Bush called Muhammad Dahlan 'our guy' and did everything he could to further a coup:

Vanity Fair has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

It is a long complex story. In the end the Bush administration gave up and simply tried to ignore Hamas and Gaza. That did not work either.

As the Vanity Fair piece concluded at that time:

It is impossible to say for sure whether the outcome in Gaza would have been any better—for the Palestinian people, for the Israelis, and for America’s allies in Fatah—if the Bush administration had pursued a different policy. One thing, however, seems certain: it could not be any worse.

Seeing how helpless the Palestinians are in the West Bank, where the settlers and army are torturing and terrorizing them, it is difficult to agree with that conclusion.

Comments

One of the main reason for these types of conspiracy theories is to make the oppressive power seem invincible, and to stamp out the idea of resisting against them from the peoples minds.
Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 1 2023 18:13 utc | 109
That is how I read Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace. The main character goes through the Freemasons, the cabals, the secret negotiations, the intrigues, and yet, at the end of the book, the question is still: where is that famous “power”? What agency makes our history? That is why Tolstoy is so great, if not the greatest, because he, like no-one else, makes you realize that your life IS about you.
By the way, Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky have been pretty well cancelled too, being Russians, even if they are “white”. In a recent pro-Russian protest in the West, the protesters carried placards with Dostoyevsky’s picture on the them.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 19:11 utc | 301

One of the main reason for these types of conspiracy theories is to make the oppressive power seem invincible, and to stamp out the idea of resisting against them from the peoples minds.
Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 1 2023 18:13 utc | 109
That is how I read Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace. The main character goes through the Freemasons, the cabals, the secret negotiations, the intrigues, and yet, at the end of the book, the question is still: where is that famous “power”? What agency makes our history? That is why Tolstoy is so great, if not the greatest, because he, like no-one else, makes you realize that your life IS about you.
By the way, Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky have been pretty well cancelled too, being Russians, even if they are “white”. In a recent pro-Russian protest in the West, the protesters carried placards with Dostoyevsky’s picture on the them.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 19:11 utc | 302

Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 1 2023 18:13 utc | 109

NO: When the Soviets justified their intervention by affirming they were fighting against a secret American interference nobody believed them, though they were telling the truth. Don’t you regret it?
Z. Brz.: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. Its objective was to lead the Russian to the Afghan trap, and you want me to regret it? The very same day the Soviets crossed the Afghan border I wrote the following to President Carter: «This is our chance to give Russia its Viet Nam» (…).
N.O.: Aren’t you sorry either for favoring Islamic fundamentalism and providing weapons and consultancies to future terrorists?
ZBrz.: What is the most important thing when you look at world history, the Taliban or the fall of the Soviet empire? Some excited Islamists or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War? [4]

https://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
Let me start by pointing out a symmetric complaint: Dissidents always paint their leaders as “puppets of America” even though clearly they are not puppets. Take MbS or MbZ. Are they Western aligned? Absolutely. Are they puppets? Multiple trips and accords made to Moscow and Beijin say otherwise.
That said, let’s ask a question:
What ever happened to secular, socialist, and communist resistance in Western Asia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassan_Kanafani
It is common to see people present strawmen, such as a complete puppet outfit run by some spook agency, to dismiss the fact, historic facts, that Western and Russian intelligence services nurtured, supported, and in places helped place in power through out the world.
This always neglects the very large space of possibilities that remain outside of direct and complete control. Merely allowing a specific species of “resistance” to remain standing (and then using the MSM megaphone to turn them into what they are not ..) and killing the rest is pretty fucking effective, actually.
Consider Hamas. Hamas was permitted to exist. It is not necessary for Israel to control Hamas. It is not even necessary for them to influence it. All they needed at the decision time was this:
1 – Is this the sort of outfit that will make the requisite noises and exhibit the behavior that permits us to counter it with propaganda and political posturing?
2 – Is this the sort of outfit that will be predictable in its actions, direction, and ideological development?
3 – Is this the sort of outfit that we can be certain we can totally destroy once they are no longer necessary or have become an obstacle?
If the answer to all above is YES, then you just simply let that outfit thrive and supress its competitors.
From the other angle, you ask yourself if these “resistance” ideologies are actually helping the people. Has their approach been ‘winning’ or really just gifting the imperialists with yearly pretexts? I mean, look at the Communist Chinese. Now that, Ahmed, is “winning”.
So, minimally, we end up with players that passed the sniff test of the Empire. Maximally, some have been sockpuppets. Factually, whatever is behind these ideological efforts has shown itself to be not up to the task at hand.

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 303

Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 1 2023 18:13 utc | 109

NO: When the Soviets justified their intervention by affirming they were fighting against a secret American interference nobody believed them, though they were telling the truth. Don’t you regret it?
Z. Brz.: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. Its objective was to lead the Russian to the Afghan trap, and you want me to regret it? The very same day the Soviets crossed the Afghan border I wrote the following to President Carter: «This is our chance to give Russia its Viet Nam» (…).
N.O.: Aren’t you sorry either for favoring Islamic fundamentalism and providing weapons and consultancies to future terrorists?
ZBrz.: What is the most important thing when you look at world history, the Taliban or the fall of the Soviet empire? Some excited Islamists or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War? [4]

https://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html
Let me start by pointing out a symmetric complaint: Dissidents always paint their leaders as “puppets of America” even though clearly they are not puppets. Take MbS or MbZ. Are they Western aligned? Absolutely. Are they puppets? Multiple trips and accords made to Moscow and Beijin say otherwise.
That said, let’s ask a question:
What ever happened to secular, socialist, and communist resistance in Western Asia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassan_Kanafani
It is common to see people present strawmen, such as a complete puppet outfit run by some spook agency, to dismiss the fact, historic facts, that Western and Russian intelligence services nurtured, supported, and in places helped place in power through out the world.
This always neglects the very large space of possibilities that remain outside of direct and complete control. Merely allowing a specific species of “resistance” to remain standing (and then using the MSM megaphone to turn them into what they are not ..) and killing the rest is pretty fucking effective, actually.
Consider Hamas. Hamas was permitted to exist. It is not necessary for Israel to control Hamas. It is not even necessary for them to influence it. All they needed at the decision time was this:
1 – Is this the sort of outfit that will make the requisite noises and exhibit the behavior that permits us to counter it with propaganda and political posturing?
2 – Is this the sort of outfit that will be predictable in its actions, direction, and ideological development?
3 – Is this the sort of outfit that we can be certain we can totally destroy once they are no longer necessary or have become an obstacle?
If the answer to all above is YES, then you just simply let that outfit thrive and supress its competitors.
From the other angle, you ask yourself if these “resistance” ideologies are actually helping the people. Has their approach been ‘winning’ or really just gifting the imperialists with yearly pretexts? I mean, look at the Communist Chinese. Now that, Ahmed, is “winning”.
So, minimally, we end up with players that passed the sniff test of the Empire. Maximally, some have been sockpuppets. Factually, whatever is behind these ideological efforts has shown itself to be not up to the task at hand.

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 304

My post @58 I see should have had one more (obvious) sentence.
(Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 16:43 utc | 58)
@58 ended with this:

The 2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel (a false flag far far more blatant than even the current one or even September 11th)
was supposed to give a pretext for the US/Britain/Israel to invade Syria and Iran. The plan really failed and the IDF was shown to be manned by delinquents experienced only in harassing civilians at check points. The IDF was a paper tiger. Political and military Hezbollah was supposed to have been scrubbed from Lebanon in favor of Lebanese that we saw as “our guys”. Hezbollah, political and military wings, are still there and stronger than ever.
The current Gaza crisis is really going to shake up and realign relationships in the Middle East and beyond.

And the current crisis is about the goals of the 2006 war, attempt number 2. That is, it is meant to escalate into full out war against Syria and Iran.

Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 19:18 utc | 305

My post @58 I see should have had one more (obvious) sentence.
(Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 16:43 utc | 58)
@58 ended with this:

The 2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel (a false flag far far more blatant than even the current one or even September 11th)
was supposed to give a pretext for the US/Britain/Israel to invade Syria and Iran. The plan really failed and the IDF was shown to be manned by delinquents experienced only in harassing civilians at check points. The IDF was a paper tiger. Political and military Hezbollah was supposed to have been scrubbed from Lebanon in favor of Lebanese that we saw as “our guys”. Hezbollah, political and military wings, are still there and stronger than ever.
The current Gaza crisis is really going to shake up and realign relationships in the Middle East and beyond.

And the current crisis is about the goals of the 2006 war, attempt number 2. That is, it is meant to escalate into full out war against Syria and Iran.

Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 19:18 utc | 306

el-Sisi has opened Saladin’s Gate for “foreign nationals”, according to RT News.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 307

el-Sisi has opened Saladin’s Gate for “foreign nationals”, according to RT News.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 308

I just realised one thing. muslims, jews, christians, hindus and such other faiths you have to believe what you are told. buddhism is the only one that says that you have to find out for yourself
Posted by: AOTP | Nov 1 2023 18:32 utc | 131
Hindutva (radical political ideology inspired by European fascism) is not Hinduism. I wonder if the Hindutva loonies and Modi realize that for the Zionists…they are only “human animals” or worse. But beyond the religious nutters I think one of the reasons that India is so tied to Israel in terms of its professional elites is the tech and weapons trade angle. Qatar recently announced a death sentence for some Indian nationals accused of spying for Israel while helping Qater with some Italian submarines….
To make things more confusing, Buddha is one of the reincarnations of some Hindu god. So Hinduism embraces Buddhism even the reverse is not true. Hinduism is not really a religion in the way Christianity, Judaism, Islam are religions. Those three have defined organizational structures, figures like the Pope, Archbiship of Canterbury etc. and processes for conversion.
When the British arrived in India it seemed they needed a name for the wide variety of spiritual practices seen across the subcontinent that were not Christian or Islamic and creatively, that was the label they came up with. Hindu texts also deal with science, philosophy etc. It’s a bit all over the place including things like karma (is a bitch) and woo woo good stuff like being one with the universe.

Posted by: pq | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 309

I just realised one thing. muslims, jews, christians, hindus and such other faiths you have to believe what you are told. buddhism is the only one that says that you have to find out for yourself
Posted by: AOTP | Nov 1 2023 18:32 utc | 131
Hindutva (radical political ideology inspired by European fascism) is not Hinduism. I wonder if the Hindutva loonies and Modi realize that for the Zionists…they are only “human animals” or worse. But beyond the religious nutters I think one of the reasons that India is so tied to Israel in terms of its professional elites is the tech and weapons trade angle. Qatar recently announced a death sentence for some Indian nationals accused of spying for Israel while helping Qater with some Italian submarines….
To make things more confusing, Buddha is one of the reincarnations of some Hindu god. So Hinduism embraces Buddhism even the reverse is not true. Hinduism is not really a religion in the way Christianity, Judaism, Islam are religions. Those three have defined organizational structures, figures like the Pope, Archbiship of Canterbury etc. and processes for conversion.
When the British arrived in India it seemed they needed a name for the wide variety of spiritual practices seen across the subcontinent that were not Christian or Islamic and creatively, that was the label they came up with. Hindu texts also deal with science, philosophy etc. It’s a bit all over the place including things like karma (is a bitch) and woo woo good stuff like being one with the universe.

Posted by: pq | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 310

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 155
Not a single person (except me) is asking:
Why aren’t the “foreign nationals” going to Israel? Why is Israel not letting foreign nationals to cross its borders?
What is so special about Sinai?
more importantly: Why is everyone so subservient to precooked and served narratives?

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:29 utc | 311

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 155
Not a single person (except me) is asking:
Why aren’t the “foreign nationals” going to Israel? Why is Israel not letting foreign nationals to cross its borders?
What is so special about Sinai?
more importantly: Why is everyone so subservient to precooked and served narratives?

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:29 utc | 312

Jonathan W
Your earlier claim of state media which you refused to ling. The nearest to state media where it appears is RFE/RL so I assume that is why you did not link it. That was taken from an online media in Chechnya that has .com American domain name rather than .ru Russian domain name. It is not state media. It claims Kadyrov posted it to his telegram but there is only the opposite which is what I linked and quoted.
Your smug garbage and refusal to link it was simply to cover the fact you got that news from the likes of RFE/RL, Moscow Times or some other propaganda pusher of that nature.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 19:33 utc | 313

Jonathan W
Your earlier claim of state media which you refused to ling. The nearest to state media where it appears is RFE/RL so I assume that is why you did not link it. That was taken from an online media in Chechnya that has .com American domain name rather than .ru Russian domain name. It is not state media. It claims Kadyrov posted it to his telegram but there is only the opposite which is what I linked and quoted.
Your smug garbage and refusal to link it was simply to cover the fact you got that news from the likes of RFE/RL, Moscow Times or some other propaganda pusher of that nature.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 19:33 utc | 314

Put the blame squarely where it lies: our oligarchs and their chosen political elite.
@ Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 16:22 utc | 49

If the people (as opposed to elite oligarchs in control) have any residual agency, they also merit accountability, responsibility, blame. There are polities so profoundly perverted, so morally lost, the cancer of white supremacy or Jewish supremacy has metastasized virtually throughout. One of Ward Churchill’s central theses is that US Americans — all of them — deserve blame for the indigenous genocides performed in their name.
A problem can be fixed if we admit it and address it. When you write “Everybody here would stop this if they held any power to do so,” you come close to granting everyone absolution on grounds of powerlessness. Why? What’s the point of contributing here if there’s nothing to be done? Ordinary folks are complicit to the degree there’s anything at all we can do to stop Israel’s genocidal slaughter, though we fail for whatever reason. Your attitude of “It couldn’t possibly be my fault” strikes me as intransigent, small-minded.
I have the opposite problem: too many people to blame (including myself), rather than too few. Patrick Lawrence got freaked out by exquisitely sadistic video compilations making the rounds:
https://scheerpost.com/2023/10/31/patrick-lawrence-deeper-into-depravity/
Giggling Israeli youngsters, donning scarves, blackened teeth, and painted-on wounds for Hallowe’en. Playing pretend-Palestinian while playing with the light switch and the tap. Here’s an example of a polity fully deserving of blame. US Americans are another.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 19:38 utc | 315

Put the blame squarely where it lies: our oligarchs and their chosen political elite.
@ Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 16:22 utc | 49

If the people (as opposed to elite oligarchs in control) have any residual agency, they also merit accountability, responsibility, blame. There are polities so profoundly perverted, so morally lost, the cancer of white supremacy or Jewish supremacy has metastasized virtually throughout. One of Ward Churchill’s central theses is that US Americans — all of them — deserve blame for the indigenous genocides performed in their name.
A problem can be fixed if we admit it and address it. When you write “Everybody here would stop this if they held any power to do so,” you come close to granting everyone absolution on grounds of powerlessness. Why? What’s the point of contributing here if there’s nothing to be done? Ordinary folks are complicit to the degree there’s anything at all we can do to stop Israel’s genocidal slaughter, though we fail for whatever reason. Your attitude of “It couldn’t possibly be my fault” strikes me as intransigent, small-minded.
I have the opposite problem: too many people to blame (including myself), rather than too few. Patrick Lawrence got freaked out by exquisitely sadistic video compilations making the rounds:
https://scheerpost.com/2023/10/31/patrick-lawrence-deeper-into-depravity/
Giggling Israeli youngsters, donning scarves, blackened teeth, and painted-on wounds for Hallowe’en. Playing pretend-Palestinian while playing with the light switch and the tap. Here’s an example of a polity fully deserving of blame. US Americans are another.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 19:38 utc | 316

“… The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the necessary means to avert war in their own hands. …”
Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 1 2023 17:31 utc | 81

Reich embarrasses himself and those who quote him approvingly by failing to mention, almost certainly mendaciously, the class of opinion manipulators and their oligarch paymasters that a moment of investigation can usually identify as the true ringmasters and profiteers of the crude bloodsport of war.
What a POS.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 1 2023 19:40 utc | 317

“… The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the necessary means to avert war in their own hands. …”
Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 1 2023 17:31 utc | 81

Reich embarrasses himself and those who quote him approvingly by failing to mention, almost certainly mendaciously, the class of opinion manipulators and their oligarch paymasters that a moment of investigation can usually identify as the true ringmasters and profiteers of the crude bloodsport of war.
What a POS.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 1 2023 19:40 utc | 318

Posted by: pq | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 156
Confused about which Indians are Anglo-Indians and which are not? Let me help you, since Alex M. put the M in MIA.
History of British India

So the argument that is going to be developed, and we’re going to revisit this argument later on, the argument that is going to be developed in the early nineteenth century is the following: That essentially we develop an evaluative scale where we place one civilization relation to another, and we judge them. So for example one of the ways in which you evaluate civilizations or nation-states today rather is you say … and that’s what the UNDP report does. What is the percentage of literacy in a country? What is the number of doctors per hundred thousand people? What is the number of hospital beds per hundred thousand people? What percentage of the population has access to drinking water, potable drinking water? et cetera , et cetera. One of the largest indices of this kind is what are the rights available to women? In the nineteenth century in early British India this is going to become a critical argument because, and this is the philosophical, ideological component of that argument, you judge a civilization and judge how advanced it is according to how it treats its women. So this is one reason, for example, if you look at state department reports on Afghanistan the argument will always be furnished that one of the principle reasons why we as Americans had to move to Afghanistan is that we have to liberate their women. And remember what’s happening: you’re liberating brown women from brown men, and you need white men to do that. I want you to remember that. You’re liberating brown women from the clutches of brown men, and the way to do that is to bring white men into the picture. This is exactly what’s happening in Afghanistan today in many ways mirrors the kind of arguments that you’re going to find in early nineteenth century India.

I however, I will not direct to the specific lecture from which I quote. That is for you to discover. Meanwhile, more recently and incisively, refer to this essay, Difference Between Hinduism and Hindutva

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:44 utc | 319

Posted by: pq | Nov 1 2023 19:20 utc | 156
Confused about which Indians are Anglo-Indians and which are not? Let me help you, since Alex M. put the M in MIA.
History of British India

So the argument that is going to be developed, and we’re going to revisit this argument later on, the argument that is going to be developed in the early nineteenth century is the following: That essentially we develop an evaluative scale where we place one civilization relation to another, and we judge them. So for example one of the ways in which you evaluate civilizations or nation-states today rather is you say … and that’s what the UNDP report does. What is the percentage of literacy in a country? What is the number of doctors per hundred thousand people? What is the number of hospital beds per hundred thousand people? What percentage of the population has access to drinking water, potable drinking water? et cetera , et cetera. One of the largest indices of this kind is what are the rights available to women? In the nineteenth century in early British India this is going to become a critical argument because, and this is the philosophical, ideological component of that argument, you judge a civilization and judge how advanced it is according to how it treats its women. So this is one reason, for example, if you look at state department reports on Afghanistan the argument will always be furnished that one of the principle reasons why we as Americans had to move to Afghanistan is that we have to liberate their women. And remember what’s happening: you’re liberating brown women from brown men, and you need white men to do that. I want you to remember that. You’re liberating brown women from the clutches of brown men, and the way to do that is to bring white men into the picture. This is exactly what’s happening in Afghanistan today in many ways mirrors the kind of arguments that you’re going to find in early nineteenth century India.

I however, I will not direct to the specific lecture from which I quote. That is for you to discover. Meanwhile, more recently and incisively, refer to this essay, Difference Between Hinduism and Hindutva

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 19:44 utc | 320

@robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 153
That’s the point. What’s even worse is the fact that the true leaders of this so called resistance movement are right now enjoing their life in some resorts in Doha, while unleashing hell over Gaza. Gandhi was a resistance leader. Castro was a resistance leader. Mao. These are tools.

Posted by: SG | Nov 1 2023 19:52 utc | 321

@robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 153
That’s the point. What’s even worse is the fact that the true leaders of this so called resistance movement are right now enjoing their life in some resorts in Doha, while unleashing hell over Gaza. Gandhi was a resistance leader. Castro was a resistance leader. Mao. These are tools.

Posted by: SG | Nov 1 2023 19:52 utc | 322

@146 psychohistorian
There is an excellent resource by the name of Henry Makow. He is a jew who converted to RC(?) and on his website he posts authentic quotes almost every day from many Zionists all the way back to the 1880’s. These are very incendiary statements about culling or destroying the goyim and cattle as per the Talmudist texts. The Protocols of Zion are a real thing. Rabbi Schneerson is a real person.
There are numerous (hundreds)? of direct accounts of these vermin that gathered their resources and then controlled many city and government entities with blackmail and bribes. This is what Epstein in current times was for. In the late 1600’s the banking cartel’s powerful families (Zionist) set up shop in the UK and compromised or married into all the rich and powerful British aristocracy and slowly took over everything which is ongoing to this very day!! The Square Mile in Central London is the be all and end all of every decision made in the western world. Ignore this fact to the detriment of your proud intellect. Those who scoff at this fact will be made to look the fool in due time….

Posted by: bisfugged | Nov 1 2023 19:59 utc | 323

@146 psychohistorian
There is an excellent resource by the name of Henry Makow. He is a jew who converted to RC(?) and on his website he posts authentic quotes almost every day from many Zionists all the way back to the 1880’s. These are very incendiary statements about culling or destroying the goyim and cattle as per the Talmudist texts. The Protocols of Zion are a real thing. Rabbi Schneerson is a real person.
There are numerous (hundreds)? of direct accounts of these vermin that gathered their resources and then controlled many city and government entities with blackmail and bribes. This is what Epstein in current times was for. In the late 1600’s the banking cartel’s powerful families (Zionist) set up shop in the UK and compromised or married into all the rich and powerful British aristocracy and slowly took over everything which is ongoing to this very day!! The Square Mile in Central London is the be all and end all of every decision made in the western world. Ignore this fact to the detriment of your proud intellect. Those who scoff at this fact will be made to look the fool in due time….

Posted by: bisfugged | Nov 1 2023 19:59 utc | 324

In response to

@robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 153
That’s the point. What’s even worse is the fact that the true leaders of this so called resistance movement are right now enjoing their life in some resorts in Doha, while unleashing hell over Gaza. Gandhi was a resistance leader. Castro was a resistance leader. Mao. These are tools.
Posted by: SG | Nov 1 2023 19:52 utc | 162

Where is Pope Frank if there is really a large percentage of Palestinians who are Christian? He should place himself in Gaza and tell Occupied Palestine not to kill God’s children.
I wonder why that is not happening?…grin…hypocrisy at the existential level anyone?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 20:02 utc | 325

In response to

@robinthehood | Nov 1 2023 19:13 utc | 153
That’s the point. What’s even worse is the fact that the true leaders of this so called resistance movement are right now enjoing their life in some resorts in Doha, while unleashing hell over Gaza. Gandhi was a resistance leader. Castro was a resistance leader. Mao. These are tools.
Posted by: SG | Nov 1 2023 19:52 utc | 162

Where is Pope Frank if there is really a large percentage of Palestinians who are Christian? He should place himself in Gaza and tell Occupied Palestine not to kill God’s children.
I wonder why that is not happening?…grin…hypocrisy at the existential level anyone?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 20:02 utc | 326

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 18:05 utc | 104
You could also compare it to the siege of Leningrad.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 18:15 utc | 113
With Finland blockading from the Northwest and Nazi Germany attacking from the south, the people of Leningrad still had the support of their country, the USSR/Russia. However tenuous the logistics were over Lake Ladoga and the eventual expansion of the road access, Leningrad had mounting and increasing supplies and support.
Gaza, with the Israeli Navy and the U.S. Carrier Fleet blocking access to the Mediterranean, can hardly be compared, other than the murderous killing of innocents, to St. Petersburg.
May the U.S./Israel reap what they sow.

Posted by: kupkee | Nov 1 2023 20:03 utc | 327

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 18:05 utc | 104
You could also compare it to the siege of Leningrad.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 18:15 utc | 113
With Finland blockading from the Northwest and Nazi Germany attacking from the south, the people of Leningrad still had the support of their country, the USSR/Russia. However tenuous the logistics were over Lake Ladoga and the eventual expansion of the road access, Leningrad had mounting and increasing supplies and support.
Gaza, with the Israeli Navy and the U.S. Carrier Fleet blocking access to the Mediterranean, can hardly be compared, other than the murderous killing of innocents, to St. Petersburg.
May the U.S./Israel reap what they sow.

Posted by: kupkee | Nov 1 2023 20:03 utc | 328

Responding to Canuck post #83
Matthew Ehret is a principle in an organization known as the Rising tide Foundation. Both he and the founder, Cynthia Chung, are very knowledgeable, trustworthy, historians and chroniclers of our times.
https://risingtidefoundation.net/about-us/

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 1 2023 20:06 utc | 329

Responding to Canuck post #83
Matthew Ehret is a principle in an organization known as the Rising tide Foundation. Both he and the founder, Cynthia Chung, are very knowledgeable, trustworthy, historians and chroniclers of our times.
https://risingtidefoundation.net/about-us/

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 1 2023 20:06 utc | 330

Also on The Economist:
“What would World War 3 mean for investors”
“World Wars seem to sneak up on Money Managers…..”
“….even if investors know of a coming world war ahead of time. Theres little they could do to profit from it.”
This is not a joke its actually an article they wrote yesterday
Lolololz

Posted by: Comandante | Nov 1 2023 20:08 utc | 331

Also on The Economist:
“What would World War 3 mean for investors”
“World Wars seem to sneak up on Money Managers…..”
“….even if investors know of a coming world war ahead of time. Theres little they could do to profit from it.”
This is not a joke its actually an article they wrote yesterday
Lolololz

Posted by: Comandante | Nov 1 2023 20:08 utc | 332

The following comment was recently posted on RT, any confirmations seen form barflies?
BREAKING: ZIonist soldiers and US special forces picking up their dead and wounded loaded them into chopper. Leaked by ideo on Nov, 1, 2023. Telegram channels confirmed several dead and wounded from invading forces. Fierce fighting ended with heavy losses inflicted by the Hamas guerillas: 26 dead US Marines, 17 Zionists dead soldiers and 43 Zionist soldiers captured.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:08 utc | 333

The following comment was recently posted on RT, any confirmations seen form barflies?
BREAKING: ZIonist soldiers and US special forces picking up their dead and wounded loaded them into chopper. Leaked by ideo on Nov, 1, 2023. Telegram channels confirmed several dead and wounded from invading forces. Fierce fighting ended with heavy losses inflicted by the Hamas guerillas: 26 dead US Marines, 17 Zionists dead soldiers and 43 Zionist soldiers captured.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:08 utc | 334

It is very difficult to destroy an ideology. You beat, torture and kill at will. Meanwhile, the resentment grows. Sheer hatred for the oppressor.
The oppressed wait for their moment. They prepare carefully for many years. There are more than 2 million, with fierce hatred, that you the oppressor, the murderer of helpess innocents have caused in them.
The tanks sit waiting in the war zone. A small group climb from a hole in the ground, unobserved. There are so many holes in the ground all over. The small squad call to god before launching the missile at the tank and destroying it.
The IDF will suffer major losses as the weeks go by. Unfortunately, they will murder many innocent civilians too.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Nov 1 2023 20:09 utc | 335

It is very difficult to destroy an ideology. You beat, torture and kill at will. Meanwhile, the resentment grows. Sheer hatred for the oppressor.
The oppressed wait for their moment. They prepare carefully for many years. There are more than 2 million, with fierce hatred, that you the oppressor, the murderer of helpess innocents have caused in them.
The tanks sit waiting in the war zone. A small group climb from a hole in the ground, unobserved. There are so many holes in the ground all over. The small squad call to god before launching the missile at the tank and destroying it.
The IDF will suffer major losses as the weeks go by. Unfortunately, they will murder many innocent civilians too.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Nov 1 2023 20:09 utc | 336

@SG @robinthehood
I posit that Netanyahu is the puppet of Hamas. Can you prove me wrong ?
On another note, your questions and answers sound a lot like someone who wants to discredit the resistance. There is an easy way to find out for yourself which side you are on.
Take this as a premise: one way of defining war is to say that it is political struggle culminated to a zero sum “game”; and just try to answer the simple question, is Palestinian resistance legal, legitimate and morally justified?
Then let the forum know which side you ended up on.
Thanks

Posted by: ATH | Nov 1 2023 20:11 utc | 337

@SG @robinthehood
I posit that Netanyahu is the puppet of Hamas. Can you prove me wrong ?
On another note, your questions and answers sound a lot like someone who wants to discredit the resistance. There is an easy way to find out for yourself which side you are on.
Take this as a premise: one way of defining war is to say that it is political struggle culminated to a zero sum “game”; and just try to answer the simple question, is Palestinian resistance legal, legitimate and morally justified?
Then let the forum know which side you ended up on.
Thanks

Posted by: ATH | Nov 1 2023 20:11 utc | 338

Where is Pope Frank if there is really a large percentage of Palestinians who are Christian?
@ psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 20:02 utc | 164

Good question, but “Frank” lost all moral legitimacy when he called Patriarch Kirill “Putin’s altar boy,” essentially lending a hand to the other genocidal initiative afoot. I wouldn’t expect Jack Shit from fraudulent Frank.
Your comment brings to mind the reaction of Muslim clerics (from MiddleEastEye today):

A prominent union of Muslim scholars has issued a decree calling upon Muslim armies to “urgently intervene” to stop the “genocide” in Gaza.
In a statement on Tuesday, the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) said it was a religious obligation for Muslim armies to protect Palestinians.
“The ruling regimes and official armies are required by the Islamic Sharia [Islamic law] to intervene urgently to save Gaza from genocide and mass destruction,” the statement said.
“Leaving Gaza and Palestine to be annihilated and destroyed is a betrayal of God and His Messenger.”
The union added that countries bordering Palestine – Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon – have a greater obligation to act, saying that it was one of the “greatest sins before God Almighty” to leave Palestinians to fend for themselves.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 20:12 utc | 339

Where is Pope Frank if there is really a large percentage of Palestinians who are Christian?
@ psychohistorian | Nov 1 2023 20:02 utc | 164

Good question, but “Frank” lost all moral legitimacy when he called Patriarch Kirill “Putin’s altar boy,” essentially lending a hand to the other genocidal initiative afoot. I wouldn’t expect Jack Shit from fraudulent Frank.
Your comment brings to mind the reaction of Muslim clerics (from MiddleEastEye today):

A prominent union of Muslim scholars has issued a decree calling upon Muslim armies to “urgently intervene” to stop the “genocide” in Gaza.
In a statement on Tuesday, the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) said it was a religious obligation for Muslim armies to protect Palestinians.
“The ruling regimes and official armies are required by the Islamic Sharia [Islamic law] to intervene urgently to save Gaza from genocide and mass destruction,” the statement said.
“Leaving Gaza and Palestine to be annihilated and destroyed is a betrayal of God and His Messenger.”
The union added that countries bordering Palestine – Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon – have a greater obligation to act, saying that it was one of the “greatest sins before God Almighty” to leave Palestinians to fend for themselves.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 20:12 utc | 340

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 19:33 utc | 158
Do go on.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:20 utc | 341

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 19:33 utc | 158
Do go on.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:20 utc | 342

Posted by: AI | Nov 1 2023 18:55 utc | 143
I never said that “Modi is the new Hitler”, those are your own words.
I quoted Indian intellectuals that see their society under a transformation similar to that which took place in Nazi Germany. Their discussion and arguments are worthwhile watching; erudite at the least.
A leader does not need to be – or even become – “a new Hitler” to follow and pursue similar ideas.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:22 utc | 343

Posted by: AI | Nov 1 2023 18:55 utc | 143
I never said that “Modi is the new Hitler”, those are your own words.
I quoted Indian intellectuals that see their society under a transformation similar to that which took place in Nazi Germany. Their discussion and arguments are worthwhile watching; erudite at the least.
A leader does not need to be – or even become – “a new Hitler” to follow and pursue similar ideas.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:22 utc | 344

🔴 Yemeni army says has launched large batch of drones during past hours at several targets in Israel
https://t.me/presstv/78448

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 1 2023 20:23 utc | 345

🔴 Yemeni army says has launched large batch of drones during past hours at several targets in Israel
https://t.me/presstv/78448

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 1 2023 20:23 utc | 346

Here’s an example of a polity fully deserving of blame. US Americans are another.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 19:38 utc | 159
Hate yourself for their crimes. Self flagellate. Be my guest, Aleph.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:24 utc | 347

Here’s an example of a polity fully deserving of blame. US Americans are another.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 19:38 utc | 159
Hate yourself for their crimes. Self flagellate. Be my guest, Aleph.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:24 utc | 348

Just think of me as your psychoanalyst.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:25 utc | 349

Just think of me as your psychoanalyst.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:25 utc | 350

Saldin’s Gate: ‘The first step’: Americans among initial group of civilians to leave Gaza.

Egypt began allowing foreign passport holders and some wounded civilians trapped in the Gaza Strip to flee through the Rafah crossing Wednesday as the humanitarian crisis intensified and the war’s combined death toll reported by Palestinian and Israeli authorities climbed above 10,000.
The U.S. State Department said multiple [hyphenated-]Americans left Gaza for Egypt and others are expected to follow suit in the coming days but did not specify how many made it out. Department spokesman Matthew Miller said about 400 U.S. citizens are seeking to leave the territory, and along with their family members, the total seeking to exit is close to 1,000.
“We do expect to be able to get all our Americans out. It will take time,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby [!] told reporters. “This was the first step.”…

to 80 more UNWRA trucks passing into Gaza?

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 20:27 utc | 351

Saldin’s Gate: ‘The first step’: Americans among initial group of civilians to leave Gaza.

Egypt began allowing foreign passport holders and some wounded civilians trapped in the Gaza Strip to flee through the Rafah crossing Wednesday as the humanitarian crisis intensified and the war’s combined death toll reported by Palestinian and Israeli authorities climbed above 10,000.
The U.S. State Department said multiple [hyphenated-]Americans left Gaza for Egypt and others are expected to follow suit in the coming days but did not specify how many made it out. Department spokesman Matthew Miller said about 400 U.S. citizens are seeking to leave the territory, and along with their family members, the total seeking to exit is close to 1,000.
“We do expect to be able to get all our Americans out. It will take time,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby [!] told reporters. “This was the first step.”…

to 80 more UNWRA trucks passing into Gaza?

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 1 2023 20:27 utc | 352

Jonathan W
You come here as a straight out liar. Why do you do that? Why did you quote that piece without saying it was a quote or refusing to link it? Is the reason an anti Chechnya agenda?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 20:30 utc | 353

Jonathan W
You come here as a straight out liar. Why do you do that? Why did you quote that piece without saying it was a quote or refusing to link it? Is the reason an anti Chechnya agenda?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 20:30 utc | 354

The City of London has not controlled the United States since the 1890s if it ever did.
It is nonsense to claim otherwise.
Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 17:41 utc | 89
The City of London is an entire jurisdiction of its own, part but also apart from Britain proper. I don’t think it’s an issue of whether it “controls” the USA, but it is certainly a central – if not the central -player in the global financial system.
This is an enlightening documentary on its role: The Spider’s Web – Britain’s Second Empire

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:31 utc | 355

The City of London has not controlled the United States since the 1890s if it ever did.
It is nonsense to claim otherwise.
Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2023 17:41 utc | 89
The City of London is an entire jurisdiction of its own, part but also apart from Britain proper. I don’t think it’s an issue of whether it “controls” the USA, but it is certainly a central – if not the central -player in the global financial system.
This is an enlightening documentary on its role: The Spider’s Web – Britain’s Second Empire

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:31 utc | 356

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 18:20 utc | 118
Kate Bush’s Cloudbusting is about Reich. He got really weird towards the end of his life.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 18:29 utc | 127
His is actually a very sad educational case. Worth a bit of study.
He totally rejected Marxism like all the Frankfurters, but still wanted to birth radical social change by some alchemy. Hence the orgasm machine, the cloud thing, etc, etc. In the end these anti marxists wanted a revolution via sex ala Freud. Read Houllebecq for the post mortem on that nutty idea.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:32 utc | 357

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 18:20 utc | 118
Kate Bush’s Cloudbusting is about Reich. He got really weird towards the end of his life.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 18:29 utc | 127
His is actually a very sad educational case. Worth a bit of study.
He totally rejected Marxism like all the Frankfurters, but still wanted to birth radical social change by some alchemy. Hence the orgasm machine, the cloud thing, etc, etc. In the end these anti marxists wanted a revolution via sex ala Freud. Read Houllebecq for the post mortem on that nutty idea.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:32 utc | 358

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 1 2023 20:23 utc | 175
6 minute video, Houthi launching drones and BMs at zionist targets
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1959487
Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 18:26 utc | 123

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:34 utc | 359

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 1 2023 20:23 utc | 175
6 minute video, Houthi launching drones and BMs at zionist targets
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1959487
Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 18:26 utc | 123

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:34 utc | 360

Hate yourself for their crimes. Self flagellate. Be my guest, Aleph.
@ Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:24 utc | 176

You already said that. Have you nothing else to say about the responsibility of ordinary Americans and Israelis for the historic crime of turbo-charged genocide?
People who so readily dismiss evidence of general depravity, surrounding us on all sides, just because they’re desperate to cleanse their own conscience? Such people are not good examples.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 20:36 utc | 361

Hate yourself for their crimes. Self flagellate. Be my guest, Aleph.
@ Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:24 utc | 176

You already said that. Have you nothing else to say about the responsibility of ordinary Americans and Israelis for the historic crime of turbo-charged genocide?
People who so readily dismiss evidence of general depravity, surrounding us on all sides, just because they’re desperate to cleanse their own conscience? Such people are not good examples.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2023 20:36 utc | 362

Ansarullah’s Spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Saree announced on Tuesday full readiness to support resistance in Gaza, saying: “Our have launched a batch of ballistic and cruise missiles at Israeli targets in the occupied Palestinian territories.”

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:36 utc | 363

Ansarullah’s Spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Saree announced on Tuesday full readiness to support resistance in Gaza, saying: “Our have launched a batch of ballistic and cruise missiles at Israeli targets in the occupied Palestinian territories.”

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:36 utc | 364

And if none of that horseshit sticks, it has to be, JUST GOTTA BE, created by the White Man In Secret As Controlled Opposition, ‘cos Brown Folk just aint smart enough to do it themselves …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2023 18:14 utc | 112
I love you, AB, but this idpol is so reactionary. Totally backwards at this stage.
Kamala, Obama, endless women, blacks, gays, etc all committed imperialists ready to take the reigns from those evil white men. Again, put a trans black, disabled, Eskimo in charge and you’ll get the same imperialist foreign policy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:37 utc | 365

And if none of that horseshit sticks, it has to be, JUST GOTTA BE, created by the White Man In Secret As Controlled Opposition, ‘cos Brown Folk just aint smart enough to do it themselves …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2023 18:14 utc | 112
I love you, AB, but this idpol is so reactionary. Totally backwards at this stage.
Kamala, Obama, endless women, blacks, gays, etc all committed imperialists ready to take the reigns from those evil white men. Again, put a trans black, disabled, Eskimo in charge and you’ll get the same imperialist foreign policy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 1 2023 20:37 utc | 366

*Tin foil hat warning for easily triggered*
Does anyone else find it odd that with Musk now “controlling” twitter, he comes on midwit podcast inc. (Read: Joe Rogan) and claims that when he got to twitter, it was totally controlled by the “far left.”
Now, if memory serves me correctly, twitter was instrumental in galvanizing early support for more money and support to Ukraine.
Well, now that that cash cow is drying up, we see a sea change away from the far-left pro-Ukraine to the Musk-controlled-X, rebirth of neocons in their dearth of pro-Palestinian messaging on that platform.
Is this just a convenience or do the stars align with the uniparty’s Indian Jones-esque switching of Ukraine with Israel for permanent RWAR!!!???

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 1 2023 20:39 utc | 367

*Tin foil hat warning for easily triggered*
Does anyone else find it odd that with Musk now “controlling” twitter, he comes on midwit podcast inc. (Read: Joe Rogan) and claims that when he got to twitter, it was totally controlled by the “far left.”
Now, if memory serves me correctly, twitter was instrumental in galvanizing early support for more money and support to Ukraine.
Well, now that that cash cow is drying up, we see a sea change away from the far-left pro-Ukraine to the Musk-controlled-X, rebirth of neocons in their dearth of pro-Palestinian messaging on that platform.
Is this just a convenience or do the stars align with the uniparty’s Indian Jones-esque switching of Ukraine with Israel for permanent RWAR!!!???

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 1 2023 20:39 utc | 368

A little bit of info on the Houthis. They named their drill Al-Aqsa Flood. Ring any bell?
Iranian news site Mashreqnews posted an October 30, 2023 video of a Yemeni Houthi military drill titled “Al-Aqsa Flood,” the name given by Hamas to the October 7 attack.
https://www.memri.org/tv/houthi-yemen-showcase-aqsa-flood-military-drill-simulated-attack-israel-targets-helicopters-rockets-soldiers

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:39 utc | 369

A little bit of info on the Houthis. They named their drill Al-Aqsa Flood. Ring any bell?
Iranian news site Mashreqnews posted an October 30, 2023 video of a Yemeni Houthi military drill titled “Al-Aqsa Flood,” the name given by Hamas to the October 7 attack.
https://www.memri.org/tv/houthi-yemen-showcase-aqsa-flood-military-drill-simulated-attack-israel-targets-helicopters-rockets-soldiers

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 20:39 utc | 370

US/Britain relationship. Five-eyes leads back to the Atlantic Charter and the UK/US special relationship for planning/plotting the future of the world. A new special relationship was signed by Boris Johnson and Biden. Cia originated from the OSS. UK played a role in the creation of the OSS.
Interesting bit in wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
“President Franklin D. Roosevelt was concerned about American intelligence deficiencies. On the suggestion of William Stephenson, the senior British intelligence officer in the western hemisphere, Roosevelt requested that William J. Donovan draft a plan for an intelligence service based on the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) and Special Operations Executive (SOE). Donovan envisioned a single agency responsible for foreign intelligence and special operations involving commandos, disinformation, partisan and guerrilla activities.[6] Donovan worked closely with Australian-born British intelligence officer Charles Howard ‘Dick’ Ellis, who has been credited with writing the blueprint.
Said Ellis: ‘I was soon requested to draft a blueprint for an American intelligence agency, the equivalent of BSC [British Security Co-ordination] and based on these British wartime improvisations… detailed tables of organisation were disclosed to Washington… among these were the organisational tables that led to the birth of General William Donovan’s OSS.’[7]”
US and UK are intertwined to say the least and have been since WWII.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 20:43 utc | 371

US/Britain relationship. Five-eyes leads back to the Atlantic Charter and the UK/US special relationship for planning/plotting the future of the world. A new special relationship was signed by Boris Johnson and Biden. Cia originated from the OSS. UK played a role in the creation of the OSS.
Interesting bit in wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
“President Franklin D. Roosevelt was concerned about American intelligence deficiencies. On the suggestion of William Stephenson, the senior British intelligence officer in the western hemisphere, Roosevelt requested that William J. Donovan draft a plan for an intelligence service based on the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) and Special Operations Executive (SOE). Donovan envisioned a single agency responsible for foreign intelligence and special operations involving commandos, disinformation, partisan and guerrilla activities.[6] Donovan worked closely with Australian-born British intelligence officer Charles Howard ‘Dick’ Ellis, who has been credited with writing the blueprint.
Said Ellis: ‘I was soon requested to draft a blueprint for an American intelligence agency, the equivalent of BSC [British Security Co-ordination] and based on these British wartime improvisations… detailed tables of organisation were disclosed to Washington… among these were the organisational tables that led to the birth of General William Donovan’s OSS.’[7]”
US and UK are intertwined to say the least and have been since WWII.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 20:43 utc | 372

@jw
There were several posts yesterday about MEMRI (Hasbara outlet) from Wikipedia:
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI; officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute[1]) is a nonprofit press monitoring and analysis organization co-founded by former Israeli military intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., MEMRI publishes and distributes free English-language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports.
Critics describe MEMRI as a strongly pro-Israel advocacy group that, despite portraying itself as “independent” and “non-partisan”,[6][7][8] aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete or inaccurate translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:43 utc | 373

@jw
There were several posts yesterday about MEMRI (Hasbara outlet) from Wikipedia:
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI; officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute[1]) is a nonprofit press monitoring and analysis organization co-founded by former Israeli military intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., MEMRI publishes and distributes free English-language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports.
Critics describe MEMRI as a strongly pro-Israel advocacy group that, despite portraying itself as “independent” and “non-partisan”,[6][7][8] aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete or inaccurate translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 1 2023 20:43 utc | 374

The Economist is a tool used by the servants of the ruling elite – who are freaking out now, because their old time worn solutions are no longer working, the people are thinking & questioning now more than ever, and hiding the truth is no longer possible. In short, their world is falling apart!
Far too few are aware of the esoteric view which says in brief: We are witnessing the end of a ~2,150 yr cycle & the start of a new ~2,150 yr cycle. For that reason, these days are marking the “end of the world” — but ONLY as we’ve come to know it.
According to Esoteric Teachings, each ~ 2,150 year cycle is fueled & characterized by particular energies, with many differences between the two. At the start of the age ending now, around 2,000 years ago, humanity was much more like an unthinking, illiterate herd of animals. The masses were totally controlled by chieftains/shepherds -much more than they are now, and the energies coming to mankind were very different from what they are now.
In the the last several centuries, we have developed individuality & most of us have learned to read. Many of us have started thinking, recognizing & resisting attempts by the elite to manipulate us. Many thinkers now routinely question the ‘authorities’ & their behavior, without the ancient fear of being burned to death at the stake (as millions were) for daring to question the mis-leaders.
The old order/chieftains who have for centuries, controlled the herds & held the reins of power, are naturally resisting change at this time. They don’t want to let go of their prestige & power over the people. Many of them are very rich, very ignorant & stubborn. Many of them are also full of fear. The idea that the truth of their crimes against humanity could be known by the masses, terrifies them. The new energies – growing stronger with each passing day, pose an severe existential threat to their reign in power. They want us to remain obedient sheep & to keep playing the same old ridiculous games that we have outgrown. We have no choice but to move forward. Their resistance is both understandible & 100% futile.
Far too few realize that the very same intelligence that created our solar system, the four seasons, etc – has also created an unalterable plan for humanity. Manipulation, fear, pessimism, & rapid false assumptions go hand in hand with ignorance & are tools of the old passing order – who intentionally keep the people in the dark. They don’t want to see any big changes. They enjoy their prestige & power. Naturally, they don’t want us to question the many long held beliefs that tend to keep them in power & the people in the dark – like hamsters on hamster wheels.
They don’t want us to know what they have done to hold on to power & to slow developement of our civilization (ie: disappeared inventions that would have ended poverty forever), nor do they want us to live in peace. Divided we are conquered – too wrapped up in conflicts to see that we’re being manipulated and cheated out of a peaceful world. The ruling elite’s time in power is ending now and great changes are absolutely inevitable, but they won’t come easy.
Nobody is expected to believe this, but everyone is encouraged to consider it if they can.
Learn More: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius#C

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 1 2023 20:48 utc | 375

The Economist is a tool used by the servants of the ruling elite – who are freaking out now, because their old time worn solutions are no longer working, the people are thinking & questioning now more than ever, and hiding the truth is no longer possible. In short, their world is falling apart!
Far too few are aware of the esoteric view which says in brief: We are witnessing the end of a ~2,150 yr cycle & the start of a new ~2,150 yr cycle. For that reason, these days are marking the “end of the world” — but ONLY as we’ve come to know it.
According to Esoteric Teachings, each ~ 2,150 year cycle is fueled & characterized by particular energies, with many differences between the two. At the start of the age ending now, around 2,000 years ago, humanity was much more like an unthinking, illiterate herd of animals. The masses were totally controlled by chieftains/shepherds -much more than they are now, and the energies coming to mankind were very different from what they are now.
In the the last several centuries, we have developed individuality & most of us have learned to read. Many of us have started thinking, recognizing & resisting attempts by the elite to manipulate us. Many thinkers now routinely question the ‘authorities’ & their behavior, without the ancient fear of being burned to death at the stake (as millions were) for daring to question the mis-leaders.
The old order/chieftains who have for centuries, controlled the herds & held the reins of power, are naturally resisting change at this time. They don’t want to let go of their prestige & power over the people. Many of them are very rich, very ignorant & stubborn. Many of them are also full of fear. The idea that the truth of their crimes against humanity could be known by the masses, terrifies them. The new energies – growing stronger with each passing day, pose an severe existential threat to their reign in power. They want us to remain obedient sheep & to keep playing the same old ridiculous games that we have outgrown. We have no choice but to move forward. Their resistance is both understandible & 100% futile.
Far too few realize that the very same intelligence that created our solar system, the four seasons, etc – has also created an unalterable plan for humanity. Manipulation, fear, pessimism, & rapid false assumptions go hand in hand with ignorance & are tools of the old passing order – who intentionally keep the people in the dark. They don’t want to see any big changes. They enjoy their prestige & power. Naturally, they don’t want us to question the many long held beliefs that tend to keep them in power & the people in the dark – like hamsters on hamster wheels.
They don’t want us to know what they have done to hold on to power & to slow developement of our civilization (ie: disappeared inventions that would have ended poverty forever), nor do they want us to live in peace. Divided we are conquered – too wrapped up in conflicts to see that we’re being manipulated and cheated out of a peaceful world. The ruling elite’s time in power is ending now and great changes are absolutely inevitable, but they won’t come easy.
Nobody is expected to believe this, but everyone is encouraged to consider it if they can.
Learn More: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius#C

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 1 2023 20:48 utc | 376

@Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:31 utc | 180
No, the British elite simply setup a money laundering process for the global powers that be to keep those British toffs in the lifestyle they had become accustomed to. You are mistaking the consiglieres for the owners, which are still predominantly American. The majority of US shares are owned by US nationals, while over a third of European shares are owned by US nationals / US hedge funds. It is the US capitalist elite who dominate, the UK capitalist elite are simply compradors.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:49 utc | 377

@Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 20:31 utc | 180
No, the British elite simply setup a money laundering process for the global powers that be to keep those British toffs in the lifestyle they had become accustomed to. You are mistaking the consiglieres for the owners, which are still predominantly American. The majority of US shares are owned by US nationals, while over a third of European shares are owned by US nationals / US hedge funds. It is the US capitalist elite who dominate, the UK capitalist elite are simply compradors.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:49 utc | 378

When will the Neocons pull UN Resolution 1680 out of their back pocket?
As Daniel Pipes has succinctly written (August 2006),
“Resolution 1680 gives us the right to attack Syria and Iran”.
UN Resolution 1680 was snake John Bolton’s baby slitherer. He diabolically
birthed it two months before Israel committed a false flag at their
border with Lebanon. It links the actions of Hezbollah to Syria and Iran.
Here Bolton reacts with giddy pleasure to his trick to get the UN
to unwittingly approve of more Middle East wars.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/io/rls/rm/66417.htm
As best as I can tell, UN Resolution 1680 is still extant and applicable.
If so the Neocons have dusted it off and it is sitting ready for them
to remind the world of at the appropriate moment.

Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 20:52 utc | 379

When will the Neocons pull UN Resolution 1680 out of their back pocket?
As Daniel Pipes has succinctly written (August 2006),
“Resolution 1680 gives us the right to attack Syria and Iran”.
UN Resolution 1680 was snake John Bolton’s baby slitherer. He diabolically
birthed it two months before Israel committed a false flag at their
border with Lebanon. It links the actions of Hezbollah to Syria and Iran.
Here Bolton reacts with giddy pleasure to his trick to get the UN
to unwittingly approve of more Middle East wars.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/io/rls/rm/66417.htm
As best as I can tell, UN Resolution 1680 is still extant and applicable.
If so the Neocons have dusted it off and it is sitting ready for them
to remind the world of at the appropriate moment.

Posted by: librul | Nov 1 2023 20:52 utc | 380

@Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 1 2023 18:56 utc | 145

Otherwise there is important learning hard to find elsewhere in the writings of the Larouche associates. Ehrets wife Cynthia Chung is also very good.

Ehret is a classic misdirector away from the US capitalist elite as the true dominator’s of the West, same as Larouche. The US elite has dominated from WW2 onwards, the rest are just vassals. The amount of linking through weak association and insinuation that these two do is just ridiculous. Not serious scholarship.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:57 utc | 381

@Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 1 2023 18:56 utc | 145

Otherwise there is important learning hard to find elsewhere in the writings of the Larouche associates. Ehrets wife Cynthia Chung is also very good.

Ehret is a classic misdirector away from the US capitalist elite as the true dominator’s of the West, same as Larouche. The US elite has dominated from WW2 onwards, the rest are just vassals. The amount of linking through weak association and insinuation that these two do is just ridiculous. Not serious scholarship.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:57 utc | 382

As reported by Quds News Network telegram channel… with accompanying video..
https://t.me/QudsNen/85065
The International Union of Muslim Scholars declared the following Fatwa in a press conference today:
⭕️ The ruling regimes and official armies are required by the Islamic Shariah to intervene urgently to save Gaza from the genocide and mass destruction.
⭕️ Leaving Gaza and Palestine to be annihilated and destroyed is a betrayal of Allah and His Messenger ﷺ and is one of the greatest sins before Allah Almighty.
⭕️ Military intervention is a Shariah obligation especially from the four countries bordering Palestine: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

The above may be “ho…. hum…” to most of you…
BUT…
To the Ummah… it is a command for Jihad…. A declaration of war…
Things are heating up very fast….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:58 utc | 383

As reported by Quds News Network telegram channel… with accompanying video..
https://t.me/QudsNen/85065
The International Union of Muslim Scholars declared the following Fatwa in a press conference today:
⭕️ The ruling regimes and official armies are required by the Islamic Shariah to intervene urgently to save Gaza from the genocide and mass destruction.
⭕️ Leaving Gaza and Palestine to be annihilated and destroyed is a betrayal of Allah and His Messenger ﷺ and is one of the greatest sins before Allah Almighty.
⭕️ Military intervention is a Shariah obligation especially from the four countries bordering Palestine: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

The above may be “ho…. hum…” to most of you…
BUT…
To the Ummah… it is a command for Jihad…. A declaration of war…
Things are heating up very fast….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:58 utc | 384

Senator Bernie Sanders and Jeremyn Corbyn on the situation in Gaza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQJxNBOOGHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BC5_FNc4Q

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 1 2023 20:59 utc | 385

Senator Bernie Sanders and Jeremyn Corbyn on the situation in Gaza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQJxNBOOGHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BC5_FNc4Q

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 1 2023 20:59 utc | 386

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 1 2023 20:48 utc | 189
It is interesting that Christ spoke of “the end of the eon” (h synteleia tou aionos in the original in Greek). “Eon” does not mean world, but a distinct time period, and there many of them (God is praised “in the eons of eons”, i.e. for infinity). The translation has, thus, changed “the end of the period” to “the end of the world”.
Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:49 utc | 190
Thank you for your insight, I see its merit and stand corrected.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 21:02 utc | 387

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 1 2023 20:48 utc | 189
It is interesting that Christ spoke of “the end of the eon” (h synteleia tou aionos in the original in Greek). “Eon” does not mean world, but a distinct time period, and there many of them (God is praised “in the eons of eons”, i.e. for infinity). The translation has, thus, changed “the end of the period” to “the end of the world”.
Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 20:49 utc | 190
Thank you for your insight, I see its merit and stand corrected.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 1 2023 21:02 utc | 388

@Posted by: malenkov | Nov 1 2023 18:45 utc | 137
The German industrialists could see the writing on the wall, Nazism had reached its electoral high water mark in the 1932 election. That’s why they appointed the Hitler cabinet and started a terror campaign against the left prior to the 1933 election.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 389

@Posted by: malenkov | Nov 1 2023 18:45 utc | 137
The German industrialists could see the writing on the wall, Nazism had reached its electoral high water mark in the 1932 election. That’s why they appointed the Hitler cabinet and started a terror campaign against the left prior to the 1933 election.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 390

Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 17:45 utc | 93
Is this the link?
https://swentr.site/russia/586265-kadyrov-rioters-lethal-force/
Good to see you back.

Posted by: cirsium | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 391

Peter AU1 | Nov 1 2023 17:45 utc | 93
Is this the link?
https://swentr.site/russia/586265-kadyrov-rioters-lethal-force/
Good to see you back.

Posted by: cirsium | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 392

“The Economist is basically Bildeberg. It’s editor Zany Milton Beddows is top level Bildeberg. Owners include Lynn Rothschild, who was introduced to her future husband Sir Evelyn de Rothschild by Henry Kissinger at a Bildeberg conference and as part of their honeymoon they were hosted by the Clintons at the White House. The other key owners are the Agnelli family., who have been fundamental since the 1950s – the days of Rockefeller’s involvement.”
Interesting to see they are behind Politico, which is the sole mainstream publication that openly criticizes the EU and has staff specialized in the Brussels bureaucracy. That shows clearly that the Great Reset and Bildeberg don’t give a f… about the EU and that the EU leaders who follow them has been bought with some promise of an even better paid job afterwards.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 1 2023 21:10 utc | 393

“The Economist is basically Bildeberg. It’s editor Zany Milton Beddows is top level Bildeberg. Owners include Lynn Rothschild, who was introduced to her future husband Sir Evelyn de Rothschild by Henry Kissinger at a Bildeberg conference and as part of their honeymoon they were hosted by the Clintons at the White House. The other key owners are the Agnelli family., who have been fundamental since the 1950s – the days of Rockefeller’s involvement.”
Interesting to see they are behind Politico, which is the sole mainstream publication that openly criticizes the EU and has staff specialized in the Brussels bureaucracy. That shows clearly that the Great Reset and Bildeberg don’t give a f… about the EU and that the EU leaders who follow them has been bought with some promise of an even better paid job afterwards.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 1 2023 21:10 utc | 394

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:58 utc | 193
I just went to the https://www.presstv.ir/ website. I concur with your assessment. And Yemen is the rising star.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 21:11 utc | 395

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 1 2023 20:58 utc | 193
I just went to the https://www.presstv.ir/ website. I concur with your assessment. And Yemen is the rising star.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 21:11 utc | 396

Posted by: cirsium | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 197
No

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 21:12 utc | 397

Posted by: cirsium | Nov 1 2023 21:08 utc | 197
No

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 1 2023 21:12 utc | 398

@ bevin | Nov 1 2023 17:41 utc | 89
i too agree with canuck and psyhcohistorian… i think if you dig deeper you’ll see how boe and federal reserve are linked closely and this would also explains why the uk always goes along with usa agenda too… its about the money… i recommend watching the spiders web documentary on youtube.. well worth the watch and on the british banking system more generally..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 21:16 utc | 399

@ bevin | Nov 1 2023 17:41 utc | 89
i too agree with canuck and psyhcohistorian… i think if you dig deeper you’ll see how boe and federal reserve are linked closely and this would also explains why the uk always goes along with usa agenda too… its about the money… i recommend watching the spiders web documentary on youtube.. well worth the watch and on the british banking system more generally..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2023 21:16 utc | 400