Re: Posted by: ld | Nov 28 2023 14:18 utc | 2
Alistair Cooke is living in a fantasy world if he believes that falling public support in the US will in any way diminish US military, diplomatic and economic support for Israel. History tends to show the opposite, and the US government needs to double down and lock in support for failing projects. I’d expect a 10-year, $100 billion gift commitment is in the works.

Posted by: Bob | Nov 28 2023 14:22 utc | 3

“humanitarian siege”.
Even Orwell would not push language that far I believe.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 14:23 utc | 5

Posted by: b | Nov 28 2023 14:13 utc | 1
Yep. I think the wheels are coming off the chariot.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 28 2023 14:34 utc | 7

Elon Musk chatting with Israeli president

🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇮🇱 ‘No Choice But To Kill Those Who Murder Civilians,’ Says Elon Musk

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/89974

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 14:44 utc | 9

Posted by: b | Nov 28 2023 14:13 utc | 1
Unfortunately this is cold comfort, given the dire straits the strip is in right now.
For the Gazan population to merely survive under these conditions there needs to be a massive and sudden and prolonged relief effort into the strip.
Isreal’s control of the coast, electrical supply, fuel supply,materials going into the strip needs to be completely removed or else he strip, already a concentration camp before the war, will now become a literal death-camp.
My prediction is that under these conditions of even stricter siege Hamas will be forced to strike out again, if for no other reason than to remind the world of the desperate conditions prevailing in the strip.
We will see another outbreak soon … I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 14:51 utc | 11

(.. Or who knows what happens to you and the other hostages who are still prisoner)
Posted by: Augusto Pi | Nov 28 2023 14:47 utc | 10
This is what the zionists tell themselves to get to sleep at night:
“She doesn’t really love him … she loves me … He was forcing her to smile … she wasn’t smiling, it was a grimace of fear. The letter she wrote him wasn’t really a love letter … she didn’t know any better … how could she after all? He was wearing a mask all along!”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 14:58 utc | 13

‘No Choice But To Kill Those Who Murder Civilians,’ Says Elon Musk
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 14:44 utc | 9
Norwegian, is Elon talking about Benny “the butcher/comb over?”
He fits the bill.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 28 2023 15:11 utc | 15

monies for the ‘new settlements’ in Gaza are being allocated as we speak and Bibi has no intention of anything remotely ‘humanitarian’
from Mondoweis:
Israel is expected to carry on its airstrikes and ground incursion once the truce ends. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed on Sunday evening to continue the war until achieving the three goals of releasing all captives, destroying Hamas, and ensuring Gaza does not impose a “threat” to Israel.
On Sunday evening, 39 Palestinians were released from Israeli jails, all of them under the age of 18 years old. Twenty-one were from occupied Jerusalem, and the rest from Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jericho, Nablus, Jenin
On Sunday, Israel announced that it has “seized” a total sum of $1.3 million from “Hamas homes” in Gaza and deposited it in the state coffers. Palestinians described the action as theft and shared stories of Israeli soldiers seizing musical instruments and jewelry and showing them off on social media.
Israeli far-right Finance Minister dedicates millions of dollars to expanding settlements and arming settlers
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/operation-al-aqsa-flood-day-52-palestinians-in-gaza-brace-for-resumption-of-israeli-attacks-as-truce-reaches-final-day/

Posted by: ld | Nov 28 2023 15:23 utc | 17

So that we do not lose hope, who are your top ten living heroes who give you hope?
Posted by: william paul | Nov 28 2023 12:10 utc | 247 (previous thread)
1. Vladimir Putin
2. Evo Morales
3. Victor Orban
4. Sahra Wagenknecht
5. Max Blumenthal
6. John Pilger
7. Julien Assange
8. Tucker Carlson
9. Tulsi Gabbard
10. Bashar al Assad
Of course, the selection is heavily weighted towards journalists and politicians – consisting mainly of people inspiring hopes for the future.

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 28 2023 15:41 utc | 19

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 14:44 utc | 9
I imagine some of the shareholders on the boards of American companies that funded the NAZIs may have said the same of the Jews leading up to Krystalnacht …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 15:45 utc | 21

Humanitarian seige, as opposed to a military seige. Israel’s legitimacy in the eyes of the world has collapsed because the world now knows they killed their own people.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2023 14:56 utc | 12
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I hope that everyone who cares about the issue from the Palestinian perspective is introducing the term “Hannibal Directive” into the public discourse.
That’s a well-documented phrase that undermines any legitimacy of the “Israelis as victims” narrative.
Well, they are victims of their own government, which will kill its own citizens for ideological purposes.
Tag #hannibaldirective in comments on social media. Bring it up in conversations with people. It’s Israeli policy, not some fiction or slander. Just like the right of return being based on race is policy. Force people to “own” their toxic garbage. That is much more isolating than not buying Starbucks coffee.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2023 15:51 utc | 23

‘No Choice But To Kill Those Who Murder Civilians,’ Says Elon Musk
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 14:44 utc | 9
Norwegian, is Elon talking about Benny “the butcher/comb over?”
He fits the bill.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 28 2023 15:11 utc | 15
Certainly, it is true that sentence can be taken in more than one way.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 28 2023 15:57 utc | 25

the phrase “in my view’ is the same as saying ignore everything say.

Posted by: michael crump | Nov 28 2023 16:10 utc | 27

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 16:10 utc | 26
I am not a fan of Musk. Not even a little bit.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 28 2023 16:19 utc | 29

“So the bottom line is
– Kill them
– Teach them not to hate”
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 16:10 utc | 26
Not in that order, I assume.

Posted by: jr | Nov 28 2023 16:22 utc | 31

Sepp Holzer (trail-blazing permaculturalist – https://permies.com/w/holzer-vids who has demonstrated the remarkable vigor and resilience of the natural world free from mechanical-unnatural tinkering)
Sebastião Salgado (the photographer who traveled the entire world to show still unspoiled Nature documented visually in his book ‘Genesis’ and who shows the inherent beauty and grandeur of this collective dream world we all share, which some call ‘reality’)
Mingyur Rinpoche (who wrote ‘In Love with the World’ an account of his walking away from a successful career as a meditation master to wander the wilds of the lower Himalayas alone for almost five years, i.e. is the ‘real deal’ in traditional meditation circles).
Putin (for re-introducing and embodying the inclusion of both humanistic vision and timeless principles into the geopolitical arena)
Akira Kurosawa (recently deceased, for reviving the spirit of an ancient, sophisticated civilizational awareness weaving Shinto kami-spirits into the modern medium of film)
Arvo Part (whose music unequivocally manifests the immanent reality of Heaven on Earth)
Viktor Orban (for being true to his word and his people)
Natalia Lafourcade (don’t know her but she lives nearby and created a beautiful song that gets me every time – whilst reminding me of the indomitable Edith Piaf) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZIgdr0a07o
Palestinians (for enduring cruel injustice imposed by others from above for far too long and refusing to give in)

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 28 2023 16:26 utc | 33

@jr | Nov 28 2023 16:22 utc | 31

Not in that order, I assume.

I think the message is
– Kill the parents
– Educate the children not to hate

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 16:31 utc | 35

The Hairshirt Crusader rests assured.
No Israeli wants unnecessary civilians to be killed. But Hamas needs to be eliminated.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 28 2023 16:48 utc | 37

Very revealing Elon Musk’s out and out support for Israel and the continued slaughter in Gaza. Why? One would think someone with his ‘power’ would say and do the right thing. E.g PEACE. There has to be something going on, or he has had a little talking to by Mossad.

Posted by: whitebeach | Nov 28 2023 16:54 utc | 39

“… Do you have decades of experience in Middle East diplomacy as Alastair does?”
Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh @28
For “Alastair” substitute “Tony” (as in Blinken) and you will see the error in your criticism. Mr Crooke’s opinions are, generally, borne out by events. The qualification that separates him fromothers is not his resume but his honesty and principled commitment to decency.
The UN is full of experienced diplomats who, in the old mot, “lie abroad for their country.” If Crooke were a better liar or a greedier careerist he would be among them.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 28 2023 17:01 utc | 41

“Who other than the Satanists thinks it’s a logical idea to dump 2.2 million people into the desert….and then??”
—
Then, the Palestinians, with their own industriousness, the money from 20 Arab states, and the technology available today, will make of that place a garden just as the Israelis have made a garden of their own territory.
The problem here, however, is that nobody gives a straw for the Palestinians, who are a bunch of extremely toxic people grown to kill and hate since little children.
Plus, the other Arab Countries (and some non Arab ones, like Iran) find it very convenient that the Palestinians remain as a pain in Israel’s side. If they had one tenth of the solidarity they claim to have, the Palestinians would have been living in peace (provided they want to; which they don’t) for a long time.
And by the way: Jordan was, last time I looked, led by a Hashemite warrior tribe, not very numerous, put in power by the Brits, in a Country that was – last time I looked – majority Palestinian. Granted, I stopped looking at them in the Eighties, but it seems to me the same people ar ein power today that were in power then.
It is quite remarkable that nobody among the antisemitic crowd ever mentions the fact.
Finally, let us talk about the delusion of Mr Crooke.
Crooke has an obvious anti-Israeli bias. He is, like so many others, taking refuge in these fantasies of the Israeli PR debacle, & Co, & Co.
I am 57, and I was hearing exactly the same crap (and I mean *exactly the same*) when I was 16. More than forty years later, Israel as as strong as ever.
Mercouris, Crooke, and that convicted guy with the big mouth can cry “PR catastrophe” as much as they want. Israel does not care, nor should they.

Posted by: Augusto Pi | Nov 28 2023 17:09 utc | 43

So much winning. What to do with our masters?
The blame game has already started. We could win, if we are not deterred from killing them all.
https://www.jns.org/biden-is-the-primary-obstacle-to-israeli-victory/

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 28 2023 17:31 utc | 45

Re: Elon Musk
Some weeks ago, he initiated a defamation lawsuit against the ADL. Ever since, Elon has been attacked and defamed by the entire media apparatus.
BTW – I always thought Elon was a secularJew.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 28 2023 17:33 utc | 47

BTW – I always thought Elon was a secularJew.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 28 2023 17:33 utc | 47
So says Miles Mathis (Jewish)
http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf

Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 28 2023 17:34 utc | 49

I am deeply disappointed by Russia’s position on resolving the Palestine issue.
Posted by: JB | Nov 28 2023 15:06 utc | 14
Clausewitz said that war is an extension of diplomacy by other means. The Russians understand that diplomacy is an extension of war by other means. Every time Putin makes a policy statement, western ‘sympathizers’ are ‘disappointed. But Putin is systematically destroying US hegemony. How disappointing is that?
Russia and China have consistently offered reasonable alternatives to violence, knowing full well that the west would reject them. The point of these operations is to awaken the sleepers to the true nature of the enemy. This is working very well. Russia and China are now a combined center of gravity to global resistance to US hegemony, and it is the US and its satrapies that are increasingly isolated and getting weaker day by day.
Neither Putin nor Xi is any position to dictate a solution to the Zionist entity. Unlike western blowhards, they know this. What they are doing is shaping the battlefield of the coming regional war that will end Israel as a zionist state. When that goes down, they will both support the right of self-determination of the victors.

Posted by: Honzo | Nov 28 2023 17:42 utc | 51

Thank you to b. for being on the right side of the history, thank you to all the good posters, and especially to @pq, @abierno, @debsisdead, @karloff and many more… @Gyanne as well, and especially to one poster few threads ago, think it was @john.Can not find it again, but remember his post and cried over it like a child.
He wrote about the group of the Palestinians who descended upon the beach, much before the ‘ceasefire’. The sunset it was and children were frolicking in the serene sea, the families let the sea envelop and hug them, helping with the trauma…
I know how it feels when the calm sea embraces you…
I think that the religion has nothing to do with the latest disaster and tragedy inflicted by the hegemon and its proxy bloody Israel. It could be as well budhists inhabiting the land, the behavior would be the same.
Always the same old same old MO inflicted upon the victims, weaponize the religion, the ethnicity, any sort of possible divisions
just to provoke a profitable war for the thieving criminal entities.
I should know, as was born in Yugoslavia where the civil war was a result of the decades long hostile activity by mostly USA and Germany, lots can be found with Engdahl, Parenti etc…
Anyway, went to Middle East quite young as adventurer, in my late 20ties. Yugoslavia gave me the scholarship, and blessed my staying when I let them know I want to stay…
I was well prepared, as during my studies ( free for all), we students were in touch with all kind of cultures, as there were students from all over the ‘unalined’ world ( from Africa, Asia etc…) studying in our universities. We mingled with the world.
had access to different civilizations, their cultures.
@ Minaa who was surprised that I quoted the socialist Iraqi poet Badr Shaker El Sayyab, as he is unknown in the west…
The west is very very poor and culturally isolated, dear Minaa, Yugoslavia introduced me to Badr from Irak when I was 20 years old, in one of the many many toms of prolific translations from all over the world. We had to read Tolstoy, Dostojevsky, modern South Americans in the secondary school…
Anyway, for you all, especially for Minaa and John:Badr Shaker
And even when I smelt your body of stone in my fire
And wrest the ice from your hands, between our eyes
Persist whole wastes of snow that devour the night-traveller
As if you saw me through mist and moonlight
As if we had never met in hope and longing
Hope for love is a meeting … where then did we meet?
Your naked body is torn open
Your breasts, beneath the roof of night, are torn by my nails
My ardor has torn apart all but the veils
Which hide within you what I desire
As if the blood I drink from you were salt
Whole draughts of it still not my thirst
Where is your passion?
Where your unbared heart ?
I bolt on you the gate of night, then embrace the gate
Conceal within it my shadow, memories and secret
Then search for you within my fire
And find you noy, find not your ashes in the burning flame
I will cast my self into the flame, If it burns or not
Kill me, that I may fell you
Kill the stone
With a shedding of blood, with a spark of fire
… or burn then without fire
Badr Shakir al-Sayyab
And I say, choked by horror, this will be the end of Israel, and introduction to the end of all the monsters in EU who watch placidly and find the excuses. The ugliness is so much, sickening, they will pay.

Posted by: stranger | Nov 28 2023 17:47 utc | 53

“…several Qatari mediators stayed behind to work with Israeli intelligence officials on extending the four-day truce…With its close ties to the United States — it hosts the largest American military base between Europe and Japan — its communication with Israel since 1995 and its support of blockaded Gaza to the tune of what estimates suggest is more than $1 billion since 2014, Qatar is uniquely positioned to break deadlocks…“We need Qatar,” Guzansky said of Israel, noting that other Arab countries increasingly have interests in Israel and are normalizing their relations.
https://apnews.com/article/qatar-palestinians-israel-negotiation-hostages-6a11f09dd0968de8eb232260d7aca90d
Posted by: jayc | Nov 28 2023 17:38 utc | 50
Yes, there is a lot of scurrying around in the bushes going on, a lot of hedging of formerly intransigent positions. Uncle Sugar is freaked out about the consequences of “horizontal escalation” of the Gaza war, with good reason, and the IDF has not given a good account of itself, top to bottom in the war itself. Like Uncle Sugar it is mainly still capable of bombing, and that is not working as planned either, no shock and awe. Mostly no awe. Lots of inconvenient facts coming out too. The mighty wurlitzer is spun up to nine trying to fend off anybody saying nice things about Hamas.
Meanwhile the Ukrainian military is crumpling up under Russian assault.
Right now the Israeli war in the north is on hold.
Biden is unelectable.
So many chickens coming home to roost.
I will be surprised if Israel is allowed to start things up again.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 28 2023 17:54 utc | 55

hispanidad | Nov 28 2023 17:43 utc | 52
The religios aspect of this 75 year old war crime conducted by a regime hiding behind Judaism concerns me not in the least.
The religious smoke screen just clutters up the facts on the ground.
Genocide and land theft endlessly supported by a nuclear power and the zionist world of finance against the rightful inhabitants.
Any navigation away from this topic is misdirection

Posted by: ld | Nov 28 2023 17:55 utc | 57

re jayc | Nov 28 2023 17:38 utc | 50
good post. thanks. I would only quibble about this part:
“….World public opinion is such that Israel and its sponsors would be so reputationally damaged and isolated that there would be no recovery in the near-to-mid-term at least.”
“would be”, well, it already has been. I think we have long passed that point. israel’s ‘image’ is trash, in the dust bin.
of course there is going to be much ado by the mainstream media to plaster over the fissures and restore the Manufactured Consent in the US and Europe for whatever israel wants to do. You notice that none of the Christian churches in the western world and practically none of the Western political/media Elites have raised any serious and sustained objections over israel’s tactics and end-game
please note the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people throughout the world who have protested the war already
Sarah has it right:
Independent Lebanese geopolitical commentator.
https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1728859692691276173
“From Yemen to Morocco, Jordan to Indonesia, Scotland to Ireland, France to Spain, London to Portugal, Cuba to Australia, Canada to the U.S., and beyond, the people of the world are rising up everyday in MASSIVE numbers to denounce Israel’s genocide in Palestine.”
and something else, another gem of a quote:
“We can never let the crimes Russia’s committing become our new normal… bombing schools and hospitals and apartment buildings to rubble is not normal” – Secretary of State Blinken

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 28 2023 18:09 utc | 59

….Nothing short of a nuclear “incident” will dent the “Exceptional Nation’s” belief in itself.…..
Au contraine Mon Ami – the wars end when Washington can no longer sell cheap low interest debt to fund the wars. Washington is already in a financial death spiral. Will take a few years

Posted by: Exile | Nov 28 2023 18:14 utc | 61

The problem here, however, is that nobody gives a straw for the Palestinians, who are a bunch of extremely toxic people grown to kill and hate since little children.

It is this utterly ridiculous and unhinged viewpoint that drives the dominant ethnic nationalism and religious supremacism that gives Israelis their peculiarly psychopathic view of the world. They really have been living in a bubble and are utterly convinced of their own ‘rightness’.
The Israeli army and air force is cowardly bombing defenseless civilians from the air to drive them into the Sinai and steal their land. At least have the courage to admit your brazen theft and mass murder, you fascists. You know exactly what Israel is doing but you’re too ashamed to admit it outright.
Personally I’m enjoying reminding Maericans that the bombs that kill children and women in their thousands and flatten hospitals and churches and schools were paid for with their tax dollars. Meanwhile Israelis get a free – rather extremely heavily subsidized – university education. Then ask them how that student debt forgiveness thing is going.
The times are changing, and the road for Israel to operate with impunity is coming to an end. Personally I’m looking forward to watching these IDF leadership clowns squirm before tribunals using the evidence they themselves provided of their monstrous war crimes.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 28 2023 18:18 utc | 63

I find it difficult to muster sympathy for the unmentionables.
They ask for it, and they get it.

Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 28 2023 18:27 utc | 65

I contend Bob did not read Mr Crooke’s article
the quote I posted was not Alistair’s and if the article was read one would realize just how on the mark he is

Posted by: ld | Nov 28 2023 18:37 utc | 67

Dr. Rob Campbell@65….well, if Musk says that, then he has outed himself, it could be a circle the wagons moment.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 28 2023 18:38 utc | 69

Maybe Netanyahu & Biden are thinking ‘If Bush & Cheney got away w/killing a million + Arabs + in Iraq & crippling another million+, then we should be able to get away with our genocide in Palestine & proxy war on Russia’. Wishful thinking indeed. There is absolutely no question that they will eventually face justice. It’s only a question of when. The world is watching & many millions recognize their barbaric behavior as what it is. Reality is not affected by our ignorance or beliefs. There is much more to every picture than meets the eyes. In this ‘information age’ we are witnessing/participating in mass Information Warfare, where the good & gullible people are being manipulated like sheep. All those (both the paid workers & volunteers) who parrot the talking point’s in support of crimes against humanity, endless wars, big lies, & genocide – have blood on their hands, and are on the wrong side of history.

“In a blatant violation of international law, the Israeli state has in the past days, killed thousands of innocent men, women and children, in an extraordinary, criminal, revenge atrocity against an unarmed civilian population, that has been under a blockade of essential goods, medicines and electricity for now 16 years. Those killed in this mass murder were all indigenous Muslim Arabs, living in Gaza, in their traditional homeland of Palestine. They comprised the majority demographic of Palestine for well over a millennium, until 1948 when their land was forcibly partitioned by an American dominated, then newly constituted, United Nations, in New York.”
Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity: Netanyahu Has Ordered Mass Murder, a Blatant Violation of International Law
By Hans Stehling
Global Research, November 28, 2023
https://www.globalresearch.ca/genocide-crimes-against-humanity-netanyahu-ordered-mass-murder-blatant-violation-international-law/5841478
Craig Mokhiber, longtime international human rights lawyer who served as director of the New York Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights… resigned & accused the United Nations of failing to address what he calls a “text-book case of genocide” unfolding in Gaza.
In a letter addressed to the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk, Craig Mokhiber wrote, quote, “In Gaza, civilian homes, schools, churches, mosques, and medical institutions are wantonly attacked as thousands of civilians are massacred. In the West Bank, including occupied Jerusalem, homes are seized and reassigned based entirely on race, and violent settler pogroms are accompanied by Israeli military units. Across the land, Apartheid rules,” … “What’s more, the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, and much of Europe, are wholly complicit in the horrific assault. Not only are these governments refusing to meet their treaty obligations ‘to ensure respect’ for the Geneva Conventions, but they are in fact actively arming the assault, providing economic and intelligence support, and giving political and diplomatic cover for Israel’s atrocities,” unquote.
“Text-Book Case of Genocide”: Top U.N. Official Craig Mokhiber Resigns, Denounces Israeli Assault on Gaza
Nov 23, 2023 https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/23/dissenters
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Swift-footed is the approach of fate,
And none can justice violate,
But feels its stern hand soon or late.
Aeschylus
Instinctively all men have the feeling that something good can bring good results only and again all the evil must end up with evil or, in the words of a proverb, “Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he reap”. Everybody is bound to know this law and to respect it. Franz Bardon (talking about karma)
Good for good, but for evil, justice. Confucius
Each soul enters the world strengthened by the victories or weakened by the defects of its past lives. Its place in this world is determined by past virtues and shortcomings. Origen
In the Puranas it was predicted that toward the end of Kali Yuga humanity would be driven to acts of madness. It is very dangerous that people do not recognize this state… But how do you explain to people that their leaders and their teachers are insane? Kuthumi
Improve the brain, cleanse the ears, bathe the lips. Else you will be the witnesses of your own madness. Maitreya
To recognize one’s own insanity, is of course, the arising of sanity, the beginning of healing and transcendence. Eckhart Tolle

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 28 2023 18:41 utc | 71

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 18:35 utc | 67
Yeah, but then Dershowitz used his status and connections to destroy Finkelstein’s academic career.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 28 2023 18:48 utc | 73

Posted by: Roger | Nov 28 2023 18:48 utc | 74
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The secular obsessions with material and status in this world make everyone fragile. That is how they get so many people to fall in line with pure evil. That was Mossad’s guy Jeffrey Epstein’s schtick. Compromise people and control them with blackmail.
One has to live for some ideal higher than wealth and adoration or they will be a pawn in this world, and likely, miserable in the next.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2023 18:54 utc | 75

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 18:57 utc | 77
###############
“If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2023 19:02 utc | 77

* nobody gives a straw for the Palestinians, who are a bunch of extremely toxic people grown to kill and hate since little children
That’s what happens when you raise children in a concentration camp under Apartheid conditions
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2023 18:37 utc | 69
You should have pasted this dimwit that YouTube clip of isreali children singing a song of genocide.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:05 utc | 79

Of course, the selection is heavily weighted towards journalists and politicians – consisting mainly of people inspiring hopes for the future.
Posted by: grunzt | Nov 28 2023 15:41 utc | 19
I do like your list-
Maybe we could get b to require every poster to make a list?

Posted by: william paul | Nov 28 2023 19:11 utc | 81

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:04 utc | 79
Some are capable of more than googling.
Some are capable of actual insight.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:11 utc | 83

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:11 utc | 84
Others are capable of neither.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:15 utc | 85

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:13 utc | 85
By all means make yourself at home.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:16 utc | 87

The price of gasoline is down to $2.90 a gallon here in central Ohio. The US economy is booming as manufacturing of all sorts is being relocated to US. Workers wages are outstripping inflation. Trump’s support is evaporating as ruling elites start putting their money on Niki Hailey. Meanwhile inflation is out of control in China, and manufacturing sinks into depression—the economy is so bad in Russia that economic statistics are state secrets more closely guarded than military secrets.
As with China in its war with Japan—everyday that Ukraine stays in the fight is a day closer to Russia’s defeat. Continue to refight Stalingrad and Kursk, meanwhile the US continues to follow the winning strategy of every littoral power waging war against continental powers.

Posted by: Zargo | Nov 28 2023 19:17 utc | 89

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:16 utc | 88
That’s not for you to offer.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:19 utc | 91

@Bob, #3:
Alistair Crooke is not dwelling in fantasy! Support for Zionism is cratering across the western world. There is a time lag between public sentiments being reflected by practicing politicians. This time lag is presently being lapsed, as slowly being evidenced in Europe. It will hit N America in due time, first in the mid-west, then South/Southeast, then the west, then finally the east.
Presently, incumbent politicians are held hostages by the Jewish Lobby who has the backing of the evangelical Christian organizations/academia/media, so most politicians are afraid of losing elections. That fear will slowly subside.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 28 2023 19:20 utc | 93

@Roger | Nov 28 2023 18:46 utc | 73

Musk has always been somewhat protected by the deep state, otherwise he would be bankrupt and in jail by now for his endless lawlessness.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/93835

🔴BREAKING: Hamas invites Elon Musk to visit Gaza strip, to see extent of destruction caused by Israeli bombardment – Reuters

https://t.me/presstv/80836

“We invite him to visit Gaza to see the extent of the massacres and destruction committed against the people of Gaza”
Hamas official Osama Hamdan has invited U.S. billionaire Elon Musk to visit Gaza.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2023 19:21 utc | 95

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:20 utc | 93
Don’t be too hard on yourself.
By the way, you’ll probably be more at home on the yahoo forums, I recommend you head over there as soon as you can to mingle with your intellectual peers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:23 utc | 97

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 28 2023 19:23 utc | 98
You sound like Netanyahu.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 28 2023 19:24 utc | 99