The esoteric view (put forth by Benjamin Creme & others) that the same barbaric, inhumane energies that fueled Hitler, are now fueling Israel (and western officials who hope for endless wars & Big Lies), is more obvious now than ever. Clearly, it’s a contest between those who support the Rule of Law, and those who don’t.
High integrity, brilliant military intelligence expert Scott Ritter shares his observations:

Hamas Winning Battle for Gaza, by Scott Ritter
https://www.globalresearch.ca/hamas-winning-battle-gaza-scott-ritter/5841232 (nov 26)
https://sputnikglobe.com/20231123/scott-ritter-hamas-winning-battle-for-gaza-1115160045.html (nov 23)
“…The October 7 attack by Hamas was not a stand-alone operation, but rather part of a strategic plan possessing three main objectives—to put the issue of a Palestinian state back on the front burner of international discourse, to free the thousands of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, and to compel Israel to cease and desist when it came to its desecration of the Al Aqsa Mosque, Islam’s third holiest place. The October 7 attack, on its own, could not achieve these outcomes. Rather, the October 7 attack was designed to trigger an Israeli response which would create the conditions necessary for Hamas’ objectives to reach fruition. …
“By inflicting a humiliating defeat on Israel which shattered both the myth of Israeli invincibility (regarding the Israel Defense Forces) and infallibility (regarding Israeli intelligence), and by taking hundreds of Israelis hostage before withdrawing to its underground lair beneath Gaza, Hamas baited a trap for Israel which the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu predictably rushed into… ”

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 26 2023 15:04 utc | 4

Posted by: librul | Nov 26 2023 14:31 utc | 1
So true. I use the terms “clever” and “wise” to make the same points you just made. The Ivy-league schools and their international equivalents undoubtedly produce many clever people. A clever person might create an incredibly complicated thing, like for example an atomic weapon or a financial instrument of mass destruction. They might clear cut whole forests or blow the tops off mountains at an industrial level. They might remove 90% of the fish population from the oceans. They do these things because it can make them fabulously wealthy and powerful. The opposite of this is a wise person, who may have the ability to do the same things but instead thinks…”these things I CAN do, but SHOULD I”? It’s a whole different level of intelligence.

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 26 2023 15:17 utc | 6

Three Palestinian students in the United States were shot in Vermont on Saturday night, according to SNBC.
Family members say that it is a hate crime, amid a surge in violence against those expressing support for Palestine.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2023 15:15 utc | 5
Pure Anti-Semitism.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2023 15:24 utc | 8

librul @ 1
Dersh’s words, from the linked website”
“In his masterful book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners,” Daniel Goldhagen destroyed that myth and proved conclusively that Hitler and the Nazis had widespread support among ordinary Germans, and that many, if not most, of them were aware of Hitler’s final solution.”
++++++++
Dersh dependes on the relative ignorance of Americans regarding the actual history of the Third Reich. He (rightly, unfortunately) assumes that Americans accept the Jewish version of history: that Germans voted for the Final Solution.
For the record, Hitler never actually won a majority of votes in an election in Germany. He was, however, able to seize power in March 1933, and impose a totalitarian state on the German people by means of his far-reaching program of Gleichschaltung, the Nazification of all aspect of German society and the German state. The Germans were the first victims of the Third Reich and the Nazi totalitarian state, both in general terms and in the ;more specific terms of the T4 Program, in which up to 200,000 Germans were eliminated because they were “life unworthy of life.”
Dersh’s statement is absurd.
Also, his version of “history” has nothing to do with the situation in Gaza except as a pretext/excuse for Israeli’s ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 26 2023 15:56 utc | 10

Vessel tracking site –
Some details on Israeli owned oil tanker seized by Yemen
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9725823

Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2023 16:15 utc | 12

Greta Thunberg chanting “Crush Zionism!” https://t.me/myLordBebo/14504
<3

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 26 2023 16:53 utc | 14

Most states have recognized the Palestinian state, even Sweden. It is just that the collective west is for the most part full of shit as if this were an issue.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 26 2023 17:01 utc | 16

Arab disunity has been the agenda once the Ottoman Empire lost control.
The Enlightenment West has no intention of returning to a communal, moral, and spiritual model.
The Islamic leveling effect of rejecting interest (finance), mandatory charity, and large families (polygyny) work against the interests of the corrupt and self-serving.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2023 17:10 utc | 18

By the way, the Vatican also has recognized the Palestinian state about a decade ago and there is a Palestinian embassy to the Holy See. No sovereign state needs Israel’s permission to recognize Palestine and therefore there is no impediment to the so-called two-state solution. Of course that is not the problem but the US is – especially now that the US has drained Europe.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 26 2023 17:25 utc | 20

The impotence of the Arab states can be explained by the fact that the unelected rulers were installed by the west to protect their interests and the state of Israel. They are in power solely by the grace of the western powers, themselves under control by Zionists and their sympathizers, and are aware they can and will be replaced if they step out of line.
Egypt was coopted by bribing Sadat with aid and weapons in return for defending Israel and the Suez Canal, and the 2011 popular revolution was in effect reversed when the resulting elected government was deemed insufficiently friendly to Israel.
Iran’s western stooge was reinstalled after a failed revolution in the 1950s and removed by another popular revolution in 1979. The resulting government has been under attack by the Zionists and their sympathizers ever since.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Nov 26 2023 17:53 utc | 22

Anyone able to find any corroboration
For Rabbi Baruch Rosenblum’s story? Is the translation accurate?
https://youtu.be/AvX3cn2OpnA?si=5fC8MFSBB4NbnpkU

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Nov 26 2023 17:57 utc | 24

@Posted by: Toby C | Nov 26 2023 18:08 utc | 25

*1. Older souls see much more than younger souls and tend be “deep thinkers”.
Re: “>https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Reincarnation

I would be careful with that one. Old souls can be old because they have not moved on (to sainthood?)
as they are repeat fukups. 🙂
And The Devil Himself is an old soul, a very, very ancient soul. Lost, yet an old soul.

Posted by: librul | Nov 26 2023 18:19 utc | 26

Semantics only… imo, “old soul” means someone who has put away foolish, childish things regardless of whether
they’re religious or not. They have become “adults” in a deeper sense of the word and recognize madness where ever it
shows it’s face.

I would be careful with that one. Old souls can be old because they have not moved on (to sainthood?)
as they are repeat fukups. 🙂
And The Devil Himself is an old soul, a very, very ancient soul. Lost, yet an old soul.
Posted by: librul | Nov 26 2023 18:19 utc | 26

Posted by: Toby C | Nov 26 2023 18:32 utc | 28

exile @5
“Middle East Eye Reports:
Three Palestinian students in the United States were shot in Vermont on Saturday night, according to SNBC.”
All of this crap, Ukraine and Gaza and West Bank and US bellicosity worldwide speak SO MUCH MORE LOUDLY about our American Nazi selves than it does of Other. Even the Israelis shooting up Palestinians in the West Bank or throwing Muslims out of mosques so the Jews can have dance parties, pales in comparison to those of us supporting and encouraging these acts. I’m Buddhist for 50+ years, but every now and then a little bit of traditional Roman Catholic comes through….
And of course our system is rigged so no one can even speak against it.
It leaves me nauseous amd physically sick. Part of me wants my pound of flesh.
What are the odds those students can get licences to carry? Probably zero in Vermont. Imagine that.
Sadly, this is what declining EROEI looks like. It’s not going to get any better but will spread – if it hasn’t already Vermont – to all levels of society.

Posted by: oracle | Nov 26 2023 18:33 utc | 30

Tommy Robinson, founder of the English Defence League was escorted away by police as thousands attended a march against anti-Semitism in London.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 26 2023 16:49 utc | 13
ironic given the EDL was a UK-ZioNazi creation and Stephen Yaxley Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”) was actually invited to the JudeoNazi state to have photos taken with the JudeoNazi Army.

Posted by: UpToEleven | Nov 26 2023 18:45 utc | 32

OK, wouldn’t expect the London SUNDAY TIMES to call them Palestinian Resistance Fighters, but at least some honesty here for a change and some painfil home-truths for the Zionists:
After 50 days, Israel has lost control of the war
The longer the ceasefire lasts, says Michael Clarke, a visiting professor in defence studies at King’s College London, the greater will be the pressure on the war cabinet in Tel Aviv to keep hostage exchanges going
Michael Clarke Sunday Times 26 November 2023
Binyamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet have failed to come up with a credible political plan for when the fighting ends
The temporary ceasefire and release of hostages and prisoners will come as a welcome relief to people on all sides of the Gaza conflict after 50 vicious days. But despite this positive news, Israel’s handling of the hostage crisis indicates that it is in danger of losing its war.
On day two of the conflict, Israel invoked article 40 of its Basic Law, and declared itself officially at war with Hamas. It could thereby call up reserves. By its own calculations, Israel’s mobilised force of 550,000 is more than 20 times stronger than the 25,000 it credits to Hamas. That is quite a superiority to go to war with.
Despite this Israel has lost control of events. The hostages give Hamas the whip-hand and they are skilled at using it. The Israeli war cabinet puts the recovery of the hostages ahead of its immediate military objectives, and Hamas can be expected to manipulate everyone’s emotions, cavil and nitpick over the details, delay and obfuscate to squeeze the maximum political advantage.
Hamas leaders can see as clearly as the rest of the world that the Israeli war cabinet is bending to pressure from the United States. When President Biden met Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, on October 18, he was evidently sceptical that the best way to free the hostages was to exert maximum military pressure on Hamas.
But when two US citizens were released by Hamas on October 20, the US bought in to the Qataris’ proposal that they could negotiate with Hamas to get a significant number of hostages out — and get some aid convoys in — if there was a temporary ceasefire. The US envoy for the Middle East, Brett McGurk, ran a special cell in Washington that liaised intensively with the office of the Qatari prime minister in Doha to frame and then push the complex package deal that began on Friday morning. The Israeli government was not the most important player in getting this deal done.
Under increasing domestic pressure from Israeli families of the hostages, Netanyahu tried to win back some leverage by offering to extend the ceasefire for a further five days, on condition that 50 more hostages would be released during that time. And Israel published the names of many further Palestinian detainees who could be released if the deal was extended, hoping to bring a bit of corresponding family pressure on to Hamas leaders.
If 100 of the 230 or so hostages held by Hamas are freed after a nine-day ceasefire, that would at least be something to assuage the anger so many Israelis evidently feel with Netanyahu, whose security policy of the past 14 years now lies in ruins.
However many days the ceasefire may last, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) will use the pause to reposition its forces for the next phase, trying to improve its intelligence picture and re-stocking weapons for another offensive. Hamas will be doing something very similar, while it also works to divert or steal some of the aid — particularly fuel — intended for Palestinian civilians, as it always does.
The longer the ceasefire lasts, the greater will be the pressure on the war cabinet in Tel Aviv to extend it and keep hostage exchanges going. Israel will undoubtedly hold on to its more dangerous Hamas prisoners, to trade against Israeli military personnel held among the hostages, who would probably be the last to be exchanged.
But Hamas are believed to be holding up to 20 hostages with US citizenship as well, and they are likely to hold on to some of them too, keeping Biden on the same hook and helping forestall the IDF’s second phase offensive.
It may, in fact, be very difficult for Israel to move on to the next phase of its military operation. The IDF has achieved most of its military objectives in the northern half of Gaza — at a lower than expected cost of about 70 troops lost.
It claims to have killed about 4,000 Hamas personnel which, in addition to the 1,000 or so that Hamas lost in its initial October 7 attack, may have diminished by about 5,000 its dedicated armed force of some 25,000. But the rest, it must be assumed, having not fought for very long in the north, are hiding in the south of Gaza, even if a certain number might be wounded.
With some two million civilians crowded into the south, the IDF will not be able to sweep in with three or four armoured divisions as it did in the north. It was bad enough then. Despite the Israeli government saying it had dropped 1.5 million leaflets and issued 4.4 million text messages to Palestinians living in the north, telling them to move south before the offensive began, the IDF was still having to invent, day by day, an approach to civilian management as battles raged on.
Its improvised responses when it reached the key al-Shifa hospital were indicative of poor IDF planning for any civilian-centred operations. In the absence of a clear political plan from Tel Aviv, the IDF is still flying blind after 30 days of ground operations.
The IDF’s problems in the south will be far greater. Last week, Palestinians there were advised by the military to move into Mawasi on the extreme corner of the strip — a tiny ex-Bedouin settlement of 14 square kilometres — so the IDF could advance into the urban areas of Khan Yunis and Rafah. UN agencies chiefs pointed out that this was not just deeply undesirable but physically impossible. Faced with a new population density south of Wadi Gaza of about 9,000 people per square kilometre — 40 per cent higher than Greater London — it is barely conceivable that Israel could repeat the relatively open, mechanised infantry push it conducted in the north.
Instead, if combat operations do resume, it is likely the IDF will have to conduct a more indirect campaign from now on, with bombing, special force operations, quick incursions to attack Hamas facilities, and more attempts to get at Hamas leaders such as Yahya Sinwar or Mohammed Deif, who still evade them.
But any renewal of the bombing campaign is likely to cause more international outrage, especially after the brief ceasefire that will have alleviated some of the suffering of Gazan civilians and Israeli hostage families.
The harsh truth for Tel Aviv is that its officially declared war is going wrong in several of the ways the
war cabinet might have feared at the outset if they had thought harder before declaring it. The IDF has undoubtedly undermined Hamas’s operational ability but is a long way from destroying it.
The majority of Hamas terrorists they aim to kill are mixed in with the civilian population in the south. Most of them will probably survive, and Hamas will survive. The IDF always knew that its operations might become protracted, but the war cabinet also knew that the pendulum of global opinion would swing steadily against Israel as civilian suffering mounted and the horrors of the October 7 attacks became more distant.
And now Netanyahu’s operational priorities have been reversed by outside forces.
Instead of pursuing the offensive as quickly as possible — arguing that more hostages were more likely to be saved by cornering Hamas with military might — the offensive is stalled because the rest of the world believes in a negotiated release and a window of opportunity for relief supplies to get through to severely distressed civilians.
Moreover, pushing the population into the south while it devastates the north may turn out to have been a fundamental strategic error on Israel’s part. Netanyahu appears to be rapidly approaching the end of a blind alley where even his single-minded military objective cannot be achieved.
It could have been different. If the bombing policy had been more restrained at the beginning; if Israel had taken a less draconian view of keeping Gaza’s essential infrastructure alive; if the IDF had been tasked to devise a comprehensive humanitarian plan to roll out as it moved into Gazan territory, the military picture might have looked better for Tel Aviv by this stage.
But all that would have depended on Netanyahu and his war cabinet coming up with a credible political plan for “the day after” the fighting — something they have so far been unable to do in the seven weeks since they declared war.
Michael Clarke is visiting professor in defence studies at King’s College London and distinguished fellow at the Royal United Services Institute

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 26 2023 19:02 utc | 34

“What are the odds those students can get licences to carry? Probably zero in Vermont. Imagine that.”
Probably is zero, since there is no reason to get one.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/vt-gun-laws/
Vermont Concealed Carry Gun Laws: CCW & Reciprocity Map …
Vermont does not require permits to purchase and has no firearms registration. Both open carry and concealed carry are legal without a permit in Vermont. Any person 16 or older (although federal law requires the age to be 18) who can legally possess a firearm is allowed to carry openly or concealed.

Posted by: KeithK | Nov 26 2023 19:26 utc | 36

The “Arab disunity” thing is a talking point. Doesn’t matter how true or false it is – it is what they want you to say. Similar to how someone (Aleph I think) was saying “even when they tell the truth they are lying”.

Posted by: Rae | Nov 26 2023 19:46 utc | 38

I haven’t been following the Palestine threads as much as the UKR ones, maybe already discussed, but anyone have any idea what the Yemenis are up to? It’s impossible for me to think they are going rogue or acting wantonly. Iran runs a pretty tight ship, seems to me everyone in the Iran Russia China sphere has been coordinately avoiding the provocations and escalation the USA wants, they are pulling their punches and letting one red line after an other get crossed. It can’t be easy but there’s definitely discipline behind it.
From what I’ve seem of Ansarullah they are pretty disciplined, I think the Yemenis are not soloing and are on script not off, attacking the ships isn’t inflamed revenge it’s a strategic provocation, taking the Eye of Sauron away from Frodo and Sam and putting it on Merry and Pippin, they are forcing the Empire into a battle and in a theater it doesn’t want – Yemen, instead of Syria. Maybe Yemen has prepared to do some serious damage to Gulf State oil infrastructure and let the Gulf States and the USA and EU know it. A counter provocation-escalation and coordinated across Iran, Syria, Russia, and likely China.
I don’t think Hezbollah, S.Lebanon, Iran are the immediate focus of all of the Israeli and USA provocations, I think it’s Syria and specifically to provoke a direct matchup btwn the USA, NATO forces against the Russians to drive them once and for all out of the Middle East. Russia moving into Syria in 2015 and upsetting the neocon plans for the makeover of the Middle East and the redirect of oil and gas through Syria to Europe is what really moved Russia to the top of their shit list. It isn’t the main driver to what’s happening, that was started in 1997, but it was the last straw, what made them bum-rush the take down of Russia.
Syria is extremely important to the Russians but not existential, i.e. not nuclear. It would be good place for USA/NATO to test themselves against the Russians, and you know the USA navy and air force are dying for a crack at the Russians. An Israeli plane getting shot down would be the casus belli. If the RF is defeated in Syria it would be a very hard blow and just what NATO would need to spur intervention in Ukraine, and maybe just what is needed to revive waning public support for the war.
Just throwing ideas out there, but there’s more to the Houthi ship attacks than meets the eye.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 26 2023 20:01 utc | 40

Only Israeli military failure will stop the genocide in Gaza
by Mouin Rabbani, November 12, 2023
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/only-israeli-military-failure-will-stop-the-genocide-in-gaza/
Posted by: Kim Sky | Nov 26 2023 15:22 utc | 7
Thanks. Scary but sounds realistic.
worth emphasizing:
…there is a growing belief that there is a level of death, destruction, and suffering beyond which Western governments will cease or significantly reduce their participation in Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip, as well as their support for its actions.
Yet the supposition reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of how such governments formulate policy. Thus far, Israel has imposed a comprehensive siege on the Gaza Strip, depriving an entire society of all essential supplies except oxygen; razed entire towns and neighborhoods to the ground; and in the space of one month, killed more than 10,000 people and wounded perhaps three times that number, more than a third of them children.
Note: it’s actually closer to 20,000 dead between killed and missing.
It has done so as part of a bombing campaign that demonstrably has no legitimate military purpose or objective, and whose transparent purpose is terror, revenge, physical destruction, and the punishment of an entire society. Nor has the bombing campaign degraded the military capabilities of the Palestinian organizations in the Gaza Strip in any meaningful way. By its own count, Israel has killed more UN employees than Palestinian military commanders.
In 2023, for example, U.S. and EU officials began referring for the first time to specific settler pogroms in the West Bank as “terrorism.” Yet they pointedly refrained from stating that Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against terrorism.
What will cause a change in Western policy is Israeli military failure.

Posted by: pq | Nov 26 2023 20:08 utc | 42

Insist on a date by which two states are declared. Explain and delineate how Israel needs to be a multi-ethnic democracy as a solution, not a “Jewish” state.

Posted by Eighthman | Nov 26 2023 16:57 utc | 15
I used to be a supporter of a 2-state solution when it was still an option. But the reality of 2023 is this: All the most attractive spots in the Westbank have been occupied by some 700,000 Jewish settlers, leaving only a grid of roads to connect the rest to some kind of skeleton. Of course, all this real estate has never been paid for. To construct a viable Palestinian state, you need some legal pathway for Palestinians to regain their stolen property, and build their own settlements in these places. In short, some of the current settlers need to be evicted, others need to be made to pay for the property they occupied.
My question is, how are you going to implement this, and where do you find and mobilize the political will to stage such a revolution against those 700,000 people who are complicit with their government’s land grab and enjoying their new homes.
Don’t get me wrong: I share everybody’s hunger for fairness and justice, in the face of this Nakba 2.0 that is unfolding before our eyes. But I don’t like to be a dreamer, ignoring such facts as the current distribution of military and financial power, as well as soft-power, that will save Israel from any direct repercussions of their criminal policies.

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 26 2023 20:40 utc | 44

Posted by: Mexicana @ 43
I didn’t think of that. Odd that the Yemenis aren’t publicly denying it, but then we might never know given crass, debased western media, still odd that the denial isn’t on RT, Sputnik, CGTN, Global Times. If the USA is creating a false flag it would need to be revealed to be unwound. A lot of Yemeni lives would be at stake.
But if true it looks like the USA is going to hit everything at once, Syria, Iran, Lebanon/Hezbollah, and Yemen. The final scene in the Godfather, the montage, when Michael settles all old scores, all accounts, striking friends and foes alike to remake and modernize the family business in one stroke, comes to mind.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 26 2023 21:06 utc | 46

Respond to #6. Intelligence alone does not determine ones character. It can be a tool for good or evil.
“Wisdom of Solomon” vs. “Evil Genius”

Posted by: Willow | Nov 26 2023 21:17 utc | 48

Basil Awartani, the cousin of Hisham Awartani, said he was shot in the back “while walking with his friends in Burlington for simply wearing kuffiyehs and speaking Arabic”.
“Dangerous preformative rhetoric from US pundits and politicians as well as constant dehumanisation of Palestinians has a real life cost,” he added.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2023 15:15 utc | 5
The West Bank Is Being Reshaped Along With Gaza Post-Oct. 7
“(Bloomberg) — In the weeks since Oct. 7, Issa Amro has watched as Israeli settlers have entered his community, shot at nearby families and damaged property. He’s erected a fence and barricaded his windows with bricks after men in military uniform broke into his home earlier this month.
“I’m living in a cage now from all directions,” said Amro, a Palestinian activist who advocates the use of nonviolent resistance living in Hebron, a city located in occupied territory of the West Bank. “It’s intimidation day and night.”
The events of Oct. 7, which saw more than 2,000 heavily armed fighters belonging to the Islamic militant group Hamas storm into southern Israel from Gaza and kill 1,200 people, has aggravated a long-standing conflict over the West Bank. Jews living in the swathe of land between Israel and the Jordan River that forms the other Palestinian territory fear that something similar could happen there, and extremists among them have lashed out.
Settlers — who have received hundreds of millions of dollars in state funding toward infrastructure and weapons in recent years — have carried out more than 220 assaults on Palestinian communities since Oct. 7, according to Yesh Din and B’Tselem, two human rights groups documenting attacks in the West Bank. They say that’s included shooting live ammunition, setting homes and olive trees on fire and destroying water pipelines.”
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/the-west-bank-is-being-reshaped-along-with-gaza-post-oct-7-1.2003614

Posted by: bubbles | Nov 26 2023 21:23 utc | 50

When pushed for comment immediately after Oct 7 Hamas attack on Israel and subsequent deaths, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres got it right, this time. He replied;
‘It didn’t happen in a vacuum.’
It’s long past time to tell the likes of US Senator Chucky Schumer, self proclaimed ‘Guardian of Israel in the Senate’, to sit down and stfu.
This gaping wound in the side of humanity must be elevated to highest priority for all established mechanisms of the power brokers and a humane and just outcome achieved after all these many years of kicking the can down the road and looking away when Israel engages in yet another series of systematic atrocities.
This is more than just the ugliness you see and read about, it’s the quintessential battle for the soul of modern humanity.

Posted by: bubbles | Nov 26 2023 21:48 utc | 52

pq @ 42

What will cause a change in Western policy is Israeli military failure.

The insane over arching slaughter in Gaza was intentional to make sure that no political force or movement in Israel or outside from the west can undo the drive to Biblical or Greater Israel. It was done to create irreconcilable bad blood, to eliminate the gray area of discourse and leave a one dimensional, black and white public space. I keep saying we are not headed towards totalitarianism, we are in it.
Netanyahu kamikaze jumped into the abyss knowing he would drag Israel with it. The USA, London, and Brussels pre-approved. Same with the scorched earth happing in Ukraine – guaranteeing no opening for compromise of any sort, you see that in everything that has happened since Feb 2023, one door after and other being slammed shut, cultural, religious, business, political, diplomatic. At this point any failure, make that setback, of the Israeli military won’t lead to any reflection, just more bullshit, more propaganda, more doubling down. At worst the USA and EU will proudly pour in troops to the IDF’s aid.
On the global scale the plan underway is to remake the post WW2 order for something new. The old order was very much in the USA’s favor so the something new can’t be less than total uncontested world dominance. No more Mister Nice Guy, it’ll be brutal getting there and brutal when it’s done, a fascist world order run out of Washington, London, Brussels and Jerusalem.
Any attempted change in western policy that is not towards that goal will be ignored, subverted, or crushed. Any hinderance or blocking of that will have to come from outside, China and Russia and not from within. The hope is the change will be effected 90% hybrid war and 10% death and destruction rather than the other way around.
Sorry, feeling doomy gloomy today.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 26 2023 22:03 utc | 54

Grunzt @ 44
” Of course, all this real estate has never been paid for. To construct a viable Palestinian state, you need some legal pathway for Palestinians to regain their stolen property, and build their own settlements in these places. In short, some of the current settlers need to be evicted, others need to be made to pay for the property they occupied.
“My question is, how are you going to implement this, and where do you find and mobilize the political will to stage such a revolution against those 700,000 people who are complicit with ”
Easy peasy. Just like it was done in Europe post-1945, when millions of ethnic Germans were expelled from homes and communities they had occupied for hundreds of years or for just a few years (as a result of, say, settling in Polish farms etc. after the expulsion of Poles to Auschwitz and elsewhere).
The Germans didn’t get to decide. They were forced to leave.
Likewise the illegal Zionist settlers don’t get to call the shots and decide their fate.
They broke the law. They squatted on land owned by Pals.
Chickens now come home to roost.
Per Google:
“12 million expelled
Roughly 12 million expelled ethnic Germans made it to postwar Germany. The 4 million who arrived in East Germany did get some social and economic aid from the Soviet authorities, but saw their political activities tightly limited.”

Posted by: Jane | Nov 26 2023 22:24 utc | 56

The West Bank Is Being Reshaped Along With Gaza Post-Oct. 7
“(Bloomberg) — In the weeks since Oct. 7, Issa Amro has watched as Israeli settlers have entered his community, shot at nearby families and damaged property. […]
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/the-west-bank-is-being-reshaped-along-with-gaza-post-oct-7-1.2003614
Posted by: bubbles | Nov 26 2023 21:23 utc | 50
It is nice that Bloomberg News paid some attention to the issue, but the chronology is in the prevalent style “history started on the day we decided in started”. However, settlers’ attacks on Palestinian villages did not start in October, or this year, or this century. And they were never as brazen as with Kahanists in the government in charge of “National Security” (Check Otzma Yehudit and Ben-Gvir). Because of long-planned provocation in the Noble Sanctuary/al-Aqsa early in October, there was a wave of clashes and settlers’ pogroms in West Bank, prompting “sages” in charge of IDF to move the bulk of forces stationed near Gaza to the West Bank where they were shielding rampaging settlers. Provocation at Al-Aqsa, settlers’ rampages and diversion of IDF created (a) provocation (b) opportunity for Hamas to enter Negev (part of Israel bordering Gaza).
In short, settlers were on “full rampage” in the days immediately preceding October 7, part of the Middle East landscape that National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan hailed a “The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades.”
The lack of ANY CONCRETE reaction to extremist rampages of Israeli settlers and other increase of abuses in US Administration was an enormous and stupid defect of policy, magnified by blunders after October 7. 14 billions of extra funding, full access to American arsenals, protective screen by American Navy did not position US government well to initiate de-escalation. A small consolation that it will lead to the landslide failure of Democrats in 2024.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 26 2023 22:30 utc | 58

Posted by: abierno | Nov 26 2023 18:26 utc | 27
Thank you abierno.
That was some awesome information. Clearly,I need to read the Intercept daily. Very troubling action by Biden. I have wondered for quite a while if maybe Israel has something that they can use to blackmail Biden. He is so incredibly accommodating to them.

Posted by: foggytowers7 | Nov 26 2023 22:44 utc | 60

Israel arrested the director of Al-Shifa hospital for allowing the Hamas command centre to operate under the hospital. It says so in the official “explanation”. The lying Israel forces do not consider it a problem that no command centre was found. Maybe the director just offered resistance to the actions of the world’s most humane army, as the liars put it, in his hospital

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 26 2023 22:48 utc | 62

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 26 2023 22:30 utc | 58
Some complain when MSM doesn’t come clean and address the fucking horror.
Some complain when they do

Posted by: bubbles | Nov 26 2023 22:55 utc | 64

The Houthis of Yemen are among the few to successfully buck the establishment. They are often impressive in their feats against stronger foes.
Commandeering those ships hits them in the pocketbook. They hate that the most.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 26 2023 23:21 utc | 66

So has your country recognized Palestine?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine
Out of 139 countries, mine has not.
some 30+ Nato+ (south korea- australia- canada- armenia- mexico) has not recognized Palestina!!!
Sad, sad
SlavaLira

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 26 2023 23:33 utc | 68

RE:
Palestinians have raised concerns that after being displaced by bombing, Israeli forces have entered their homes and stolen their possessions.
https://niqnaq.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2023 21:40 utc | 51
“Most of the Jews are thieves.”
–David Ben-Gurion
(Quoted in a book review in Ha’aretz. The book in question is in Hebrew and for some strange reason has not been translated into English.)(

Posted by: Outrage Beyond | Nov 26 2023 23:54 utc | 70

~250,000 Israeli dual citizens voted with their feet since 7.Oct. Maybe they know something we don‘t

Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2023 21:01 utc | 45
Last time I checked the figures, 2 weeks ago, they were talking about 500k+.
All the occupied areas vis-a-vis to the Gaza Strip and border of Lebanon (housing most of Kibbutz), where about 80% of Zionist regimes fruit and vegetables came from, are deserted and dead.
After 50 days of genocide, Zionist Army supported by about 5000 Delta Force and SAS mercenaries, has not been able to win and keep even an area about 20 square km. Add to that the fact that they lost about 150 MBT and APC only in North West Gaza. Yes, Zionist Army is a very effective killing machine against civilians but facing enemy fighters in zero distance is above their abilities.
Without US authorities taking charge of everything from politic and trade to security and army, the Zionist Apartheid regime had collapsed several weeks ago.
Many Western politicians criticize Zionist Apartheid regime for not having an “end game plan” for Gaza, while the rest of the world watch AlJazeera and witness “the end of Zionist story” in Palestine.

Posted by: Framarz | Nov 27 2023 0:13 utc | 72

So I find out I have a line of relatives called Jacob, Miriam, etc back to Europe. Confirmed with genetic tests. Ashkenazi. I’ll tell you something about Jews. They love money, possessions and they play the long game. One of my relatives stole the equivalent of 8 houses in todays money. He was sent as a convict to Australia with the Irish and people who stole to feed their family. I’m an Australian and my grandfather was a goldminer. Lol. But it killed him. My mother topped the nation in latin, while truant. Jews can be very clever, but flawed. I suspect Netanyahu would kill them all if no one was watching. Hes going after the land. And if he kills his own people thru holding back the army on Oct 7th to get some terror going to justify his over reaction, so be it. Hannibal Doctrine, no problem. As if they didnt see it coming. Hes gone to far this time. There will come a day Israel is isolated. Watch Turkey, Russia and Islamic nations.

Posted by: Jak Jones | Nov 27 2023 0:41 utc | 74

Jane59,
In the mid-80’s, I had two long conversations with Petra Kelly, each lasting about three hours over supper after the Aschaffenburger Gespraeche. During the last conversation, her significant other – General Gert Bastian – was present and engaged in the conversation. Also present was German General Gerd Schmueckle. This last meeting was at the height of the tensions in the aftermath of the SS-20/Pershing II debates and in the aftermath of Abel Archer. I recall that Miss Kelly asked General Schmuekle who had served with Rommel and who had been on the general staff whether or not Soviet forces would march if given the order. General Schmueke, himself aware of the danger we were in, mostly, ironically from NATO, said that they would indeed march and we would face devastation if not annihilation. That is not the answer which Miss Kelly wanted; but it was an honest answer; and she accepted it. None of us in the small group present at those meetings believe the story of their deaths. We all believed that the BND under orders from the CIA or MI6 killed them. After their deaths, the Green Party morphed into something quite different. I continue to believe that they were murdered.

Posted by: Robert Peters | Nov 27 2023 1:22 utc | 76

“Biden White House Signals Red Lines to Netanyahu.” The Duran at YouTube 22 minutes today. Big turn of events. From blank check to red lines— how did it happen? The Duran has the story, but it boils down to BRICS sanctioning of Israel now hangiing by a thread with GCC-BRICS-Muslim states cooperation on Gaza thrown in. Biden justifiably scared.

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 27 2023 1:29 utc | 78

Postscript 2 — b I hope you can squeeze in listening to the
Duran report I cited above. The biggest news is in the first five minutes. And check out mention of talk about a BRICS peacekeeping force in Gaza! El-Sisi clued Biden about the monumental actions going on at BRICS meetings

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 27 2023 1:51 utc | 80

Don Bacon | Nov 27 2023 0:55 utc | 75–
Effectively, every nation containing an Outlaw US Empire military base is a colony with its sovereignty restricted to some degree. We see the immediate effect that has on the Palestine situation as the Empire controlled the neighboring states that would be the enforcers of the various UN Mandates, so nothing happened and the Zionist Project was allowed to continue. In order for any peace/security pact to be made a reality between the Persian Gulf and other West Asian states, the occupying power must be evicted–Indivisible Security cannot have a bad actor within its midst for it to properly function. Yes, the Zionists pose a problem too, but what protects the Zionists? I see only one way to rapidly evict the occupying power, and that’s for the local populace to get completely out-of-hand to the point where the local authorities join by doing nothing. There’re two nations that will need to use their military to oust the Empire–Iraq and Syria. And eventually the Turks will also need to leave NATO and evict its troops.
The Zionist Zealots are fanatics who now lust after the completion of their Project. But Hamas is more fanatical about stopping the Zionists Project. IMO, Crooke’s been trying to tell us that, but perhaps he wanted to see if Hamas could last 2 months and resist enough to force the Zionist ceasefire capitulation. It might be too early to say this, but IMO the Zionist Project is dead, in that the ultimate goal will not be attained–Complete elimination of the Palestinians from Gaza and West Bank. We shall see what happens as the month comes to a close. But within the Hamas tunnels there’s light, and I’ll wager morale is very high.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 27 2023 2:04 utc | 82

Little Yemen. What a pesky mosquito in a tent. Might seem insignificant but the targeting of vessels at sea is a huge activity. Economic pain, prices rise, usa will be forced to respond. And after starving bombing for a decade we know just like the Palestinians they aren’t going away nor submitting. The whole southern Israel import lifelines are now halted , leaving Haifa which just needs choking and its done . Bring on the shlomo to steal the Rf term. Everyday is economic death to the regime that BDS was prevented from doing by aggressive regime

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 27 2023 2:31 utc | 84

The more Israel and the MSM says it is a war on Hamas, the less I am inclined to think this is a war on Hamas. This is first and foremost the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from Israel. Netanyahu”s secondary is to eliminate Hezbollah, which he can only do by getting the US involved. It is not going according to plan because of the international condemnation of Israel, which is forcing the Arab leaders, who don’t care about the Palestinians, to take action against Israel in order to maintain credibility with their populace.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 27 2023 2:35 utc | 86

Israel’s defence ministry announced on Sunday that during the bombardment of Gaza since 7 October, their forces have seized around ₪5m in cash, equivalent to around $1.3m. They also said that they seized Iraqi dinars, Jordanian dinars and US dollars. The money will be “forfeited for the state,” the ministry said. On Saturday, video footage shared online showed an Israeli soldier looting a necklace from a home in Gaza……….
@ Menz | Nov 26 2023 21:40 utc | 51
But they cannot tell you how many Hamas or Islamic Jihad fighters they have killed, wounded or captured since the missile and artillery attacks began and since Israel invaded the Gaza in late October ….. thousands of civilians killed have been counted and estimated, but not one Hamas fighter? 🙂
And they cannot show one photo of a dead Hamas fighter in-situ inside Gaza. Not one.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 27 2023 2:50 utc | 88

….. the illegal Zionist settlers don’t get to call the shots and decide their fate.
They broke the law. They squatted on land owned by Pals. Chickens now come home to roost.
@ Jane | Nov 26 2023 22:24 utc | 56
IMO not only the settlers …. all of the Jewish people, whatever their Zionist flavour, who arrived since the 1922 Mandate (and their descendants) are illegal immigrant settlers / squatters on and thieves of Palestinian lands – and all of them must be removed and deported by force if necessary from a new Palestinian State ….. These people are all thieves, criminals and perpetrators of genocide. All are collectively responsible for these crimes against humanity.
– they have no legal moral or ethical right to be where they are right now. Israel has no legal or moral right to exist. It is a crime against humanity and has been since the British Mandate of Palestine began in 1922.
– very difficult to implement, yes, impossible today but one day it will be. #KickThemAllOut

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 27 2023 3:01 utc | 90

Lavrov’s Dog @ 90.
I fervently hope to live to see the day!!
Quite a few well-meaning people (I don’t mean at this list, but others) have no real picture of what occurred in Palestine after the Balfour Declaration, especially in the weeks running up to the Nakbah—the attack on and expulsion of the native Palestinians by colonizing Zionists formed into terrorist bands.
This short memoir/article explains a great deal, using the example of just one Palestinian family that had extensive property holdings.
https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba
The article’s author has made it a life-long project to preserve and compile property-related documents and atlases that show the real Palestine that was violently appropriated and erased by Zionist settlers. Some interesting maps etc. can be seen here:
https://www.plands.org/en/maps-atlases
https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba

Posted by: Jane | Nov 27 2023 3:46 utc | 92

Be like the Irish.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 27 2023 3:56 utc | 94

Thanks to PeterAU1 for drawing my attention back to Xi’s short BRICS+ Emergency Summit speech. I revisited it when he made his request, and Xi’s word choice–must–stuck with me. Given what’s transpired since 21 November, I decided to write a short op/ed dealing with it that also includes my comment above to Don, “Xi’s Five Musts & Light in Hamas’s Tunnels”.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 27 2023 4:10 utc | 96

For over a year before Hamas’ massive attack on Israel last month, Military Intelligence had detailed information on the group’s plan to breach the Gaza border at dozens of points and attack dozens of communities and army posts, defense officials say.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 27 2023 4:46 utc | 98

Geraint ap Iorwerth 34
Is it significant that this academic tripe has no inverted commas ?
The breathless urgency of Zionist propaganda from the ‘ Nest of Spies ‘ in London , next the Royal Mews and Royal Albert ( who he ? ) Hall, needs no punctuation .
The IGF has achieved none if its goals , in spite of being fully informed and forewarned of the coming operation from its own spies. Hamas taking hostages looks pretty pointless to me when the Nazis have Hannibal , otherwise known as collective suicide, the Masada option.
To kill your own children has never been considered the height of morality in top legal circles , even if for equal opportunities the Nazis are killing Hamas children on an industrial scale.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 27 2023 4:54 utc | 100