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November 19, 2023
Palestine Open Thread 2023-278

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Comments

Arch Bungle:
Maybe that will happen but maybe not.
Changing the topic a little bit:
There’s the talk of ceasefire but it doesn’t seem to be going anywhere in my opinion and likewise there’s the idea or claim that a lot of diplomacy is going on in the background in order to contain or not escalate the war, I doubt that as well, or at least I doubt the relevance of it if it is indeed taking place.
For things like that to have been effective/relevant it would have to have shown big results towards resolving the immediate issues within a week or two after October the 7th and that didn’t happen.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 20 2023 17:23 utc | 201

the fat zionist toad squatting farting and shitting over congress requires all who enter (no exceptions) to lick its ass thereby drugging the ass- lickers into a maniacal frenzy of slavish subserviance.
why on earth would anyone give their consent to a bunch of toadie ass-lickers by voting for them

Posted by: ld | Nov 20 2023 17:26 utc | 202

Not all is black and white in the middle east. Everyone has old scores to settle. Not everyone you think are he “good guys” are really that good or were always that good.
Resistance movements tread both sides of the line between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ all the time. They do what they must to prevail.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 20 2023 15:23 utc | 179
Yes Arch I don’t necessarily endorse Hamas as benevolent good guys. They just justifiably want their country back.
They have my support.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 20 2023 17:34 utc | 203

librul | Nov 20 2023 17:15 utc | 201
Powerful & compelling. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 20 2023 17:35 utc | 204

But again; one can not take any of this for granted and there probably are people dying of thirst (and hunger) right now.

While the ‘respectable’ world pretends not to see.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 20 2023 18:09 utc | 205

In 1967 six nations attacked ‘Israel’ and were defeated by the mighty IDF in six days.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 20 2023 16:19 utc | 187
Actually not: it was a “pre-emptive” Israeli aerial attack on neighbouring arab countries … destruction of air forces on the ground guaranteing victory to the Zionist forces…
Attack from the same arab countries happened in 1973, and was life threatening for the Zionist entity.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2023 18:31 utc | 206

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2023 18:31 utc | 207
Even I have been muddled by the constant tsunami of lies belched forth by the idols of Zion.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 20 2023 18:50 utc | 207

Children with cancer? I don’t know and I can’t speak about that specific soul and the recognition of the presumption of judging God based on such a point of view is sufficient to stop such reflection.
It is absolutely necessary for a thinking being to reflect, possibly even “vigorously” like Jacob wresting with the angel. But this needs to be done at a mature level and not based on sentimental considerations. And it must be based on what you yourself have experienced.
Each and every soul has a 1-on-1 with God. That is the only matter of concern to you if indeed you are a believer.
Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 20 2023 15:37 utc | 180
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Thank you robinthehood, you have made my point in my comment @ #127 crystal clear when I said: “…when I raise this issue [about God’s evil nature] and offer chapter and verse, the theist here at MoA do not respond to the question, but instead attack me for my “ignorance” about religion. Then they say something like how great, merciful, and powerful God is.
I say, go to a children’s cancer ward and say that aloud.”
You said: “Children with cancer? I don’t know and I can’t speak about that specific soul and the recognition of the presumption of judging God based on such a point of view is sufficient to stop such reflection.” Ok, so you don’t understand God, but you worship it anyway (I can’t imagine God needing genitalia, therefore there is “it” is the proper pronoun). At anyrate, if God is the creator of everything, that includes cancer cells. It also includes malaria that God placed into mosquitos, which have been killing children for since humans have existed on earth.
Then again you said: “It is absolutely necessary for a thinking being to reflect, possibly even “vigorously” like Jacob wrestling with the angel.” And that explains what? And another thing I wish you deist would get it right, is it an anger or God that Jacob wrestled with: “Left alone in his camp, God came and wrestled with Jacob until daybreak (Genesis 32:24-29).”
If you worship this God, then stop saying it is not evil, and own the evil, because God had choices, and this is the world it gave you, and all who believe that he is omnipotent and the creator of all things that exist.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 20 2023 19:02 utc | 208

Posted by: Ed | Nov 20 2023 19:02 utc | 209
I really feel for you.
You are looking at the glass as half empty.
Those with a positive mind set look at the same glass as half full.
Remember that same Being also gave you cures and antidotes and a direction towards peace within onself (if you choose to seek it).
What percent of mosquitos carry malaria? A fraction.

Posted by: sal | Nov 20 2023 19:45 utc | 209

Ed 209
You still don’t get it , do you ?
Life on this world is temporary test of our submission to God’s Will.
The reality is the next life and many children with cancer are lucky enough in their short to understand this reality and submit their souls to God’s promise of a next, better
life. Many millionaires are not able to grasp anything beyond their worldy millions.
Save the violins strings for yourself. Jesus pbuh was asked about some people who had been crushed by a building, who wasn’t blame, themselves, their parents or others.
He replied pbuh Think rather about a
worse thing that may happen to you if you neglect to thank and worship your Creator. I.e. hell fire.
Jesusvpbuh was a Muslim prophet, sent to the Jews , unfortunately mostly ignored.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 20 2023 19:55 utc | 210

Palestinian resistance fighters attacking Israeli tanks.
https://twitter.com/AlMayadeenNews/status/1726230191746523290

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 20 2023 22:04 utc | 211

@ Posted by: Ed | Nov 20 2023 19:02 utc | 209
Good work Ed, you got the god botherer’s barking like crazed hound dogs on a foxes trail – their PR masters narrative of the Implacability of their particular sky fairy as the Zionists excuse for barbarity and mass slaughter of innocents by unequal overwhelming cowardly force.
They are the “THE unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable.” As Oscar Wilde described the English country gentleman galloping after a fox.
Such crimson jacketed ‘Nobles’ are the ones who planned and set the Zion imperial entity on its course at least 200 years ago – the Balfour ‘contract’ of WW1 of just over a century ago. The following wars judaeophobia and narrative of Holocaust were merely an adjunct to the proxy Nazis main purpose of taking Russia by fighting to the last German! Another attempt that failed as has the current one.
That failure, by the survival of Stalingrad meant that the Israel Project had to proceed.
It would not have been so urgent had they regained their old khazarian empires lands and control of the crossroads. Stalin gave them a bigger borderland at Yalta. It wasn’t enough but they used it ever since to have yet another go at taking Russia and the World Island. With another fascist , Nazi proxy deluded peoples , the banderists with their pseudo Aryan gods.
The Imperial masters were not attracting enough ‘White’ European Askhanazis to get into and take over the Levant as they had long planned between the wars. They needed a ‘tribe’ that they controlled but could be sold as having a right to exist there. They needed a compelling narrative to encourage such settlers. The Semitic Jews were not the ‘right type’ of Jews. That compelling narrative is what appeared between Stalingrad and Red Army finally getting to Berlin – it was the dastardly ‘final solution‘ Holocaust mostly of the wrong type of semites who has refused to pack their bags and leave pre war to their ‘new Zion’. Many preferred to go find the American Dream or to Britain and other European capitals much to the chagrin of the aristos and Christian fundamentalist populations of these lands – long brought up to hate all Jews… Nazis really in all but name.
The plan being simply to extend the reach of Anglo European colonialism by a further metastasis of the model of imperialism through the previous centuries; Passing the baton from one nation state to the next. Creating the bastard monster mongrel US Empire to take it further and ultimately to have the unitary Global Imperium masquerading under a Rules based world order. One that extended the Old Khazars grip across the World finally.
That is what Zionism is.
That required getting hold of the Crossroads of the Levant and establishing their tribal rule in lands where they never belonged. That required building Narratives. And that needed the acquiescence of the populaces involved in these regions. The Arabs, the semites, the Eurasians and the majority of humanity.
The strings that are the strongest for such manipulation are the religious beliefs of humans. Which are built on evolutionary traits, as I pointed out in the current Open thread.
The argument being put forward by the ‘unspeakable hunters’ shills here, is one that compares god to the US gunmakers argument, that it’s not their terrible and fearsome weapons (god) that kill – it’s the person (humanity) that pulls the trigger of that terrible fearsome weapon!
That is , the fearsome all powerful terrible ‘god’s’ have no say in what is done in its/their Name! But they’ll make sure you do when you are dead!
Well it seems that you have turned the tables Ed, you got them spooked , the dogs have become crazed that the fox won’t run anymore. We are the foxes and the imperial PR masters social media horses are rearing and throwing them from their high perches.
They wail that the kids aren’t listening to their commands and they invoke the wrath of the imaginary god that will smite them unless they return to obeying.
Such is the state of the War against the unipolar empire. The Multipolar has all but won.
Keep on spooking the dogs and the riders – that’s you and me, and b ‘s bar and the millions who read our conversations, doing our part, fighting the battles where we can, in the grander war of Humanity that is raging against the most ancient Empire of slavery by the Few of the whole worlds Many.
Onivar!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 21 2023 12:03 utc | 212

Posted by: librul | Nov 20 2023 17:15 utc | 201
Just saw your comment was linked at the sitrepworld.info site. Congratulations!
(I may have had a little something to do with it………)

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 25 2023 17:21 utc | 213