B, I think deVillepin is making a wrong comparison when he argues that (because) a million French left Algeria, Israelis colonizing the West Bank and E. Jerusalem could leave. Very different situations.

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 14:46 utc | 3

Alastair Crooke talked with Judge Napolitano – “Israel v Gaza Elephant in the room” this morning

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 14:54 utc | 5

Hezbollah is really burning down all the monitoring stations, leaving the border completely open. Two decades of construction, 10s of billions of dollars, completely gone.
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1722617394961817719

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 9 2023 14:55 utc | 7

B, I think deVillepin is making a wrong comparison when he argues that (because) a million French left Algeria, Israelis colonizing the West Bank and E. Jerusalem could leave. Very different situations.
Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 14:46 utc | 2
I think he is spot on, already a high percentage of Israeli citizens live elsewhere, and of those remaining many hold dual citizenship.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Nov 9 2023 14:57 utc | 9

Will Schryver on twitter posts….

Very few people realize the Houthis have, over the past few years, shot down at least:
3 F-15s, 3 F-16s, 3 Tornados, 1 Typhoon, and 1 Mirage 2000
Plus over a dozen Apaches and Blackhawks, an Osprey, and several dozen US/NATO-made drones.
Now imagine what Iran could do …
Yes, what are Iranian capabilities…. Considering the Houthis source their missiles in Iran…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:02 utc | 11

Pundita, sorry, I think you’re confused, Algeria was considered France, French inhabited all the cities, the natives were either relegated to servants quarters or to toil in the country side. Entire cities were emptied and the natives rushed in. There are photos and I’ve heard the stories firsthand. American soldiers/contractors aren’t allowed to walk freely on the streets of Algeria today (by US gov’t) I’ve done so, stayed up late drinking tea in the cafes, wondering around alone, with my kids, or my Algerian wife. I’m blonde, 6ft and critical of US policy, I was treated wonderfully. (Truth be told they hate the French, but love Americans) They still tell stories of the US soldiers handing out candy. My aunt-in-law knew no English except, “hey you fuckers, get the hell out of here” as they’d mob the US soldiers who’d give them candy and then run them off.

Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 9 2023 15:06 utc | 13

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:02 utc | 5
Israel should be very thankful they don’t share a border with Yemen. Got to hand it to the Houthis, fought the Saudi’s to a standstill. Also like that they shot down that reaper drone. The US squawked that it was in international waters not sure if it was but the Houthi’s said it was spying on them so they shot it down. Russia should emulate that attitude and shoot down drones over the black sea…

Posted by: ctiger | Nov 9 2023 15:13 utc | 15

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 14:54 utc | 3
speaking of frequent Napolitano contributors (and the only one as far as I am aware), Macgregor turned out to be a zionist shill.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 15:14 utc | 17

Mark hope yours is BBBBIIIIGGGG.
I am off to our University today and maybe Portland Saturday.
I am beginning to think in the US that we need to get these movement to turn their attention to Ridding us of both parties. Both Parties, who like here in Oregon support the genocide, support arming Ukraine! And have both destroyed this country!

Posted by: Susan | Nov 9 2023 15:14 utc | 19

Dagny Taggart posts on Twitter…

The US is faced with a shortage of certain types of weapons supplied to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine – and if the situation in the world continues to worsen, it risks exhausting its capabilities, The Economist.
So who exactly is running out / low on ammunition?
I’ve said previously…. The strategy of the EurAsians is to dis-arm NATO… one bomb at a time..
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:15 utc | 21

From Southfront, alongside Israel and the US, ISIS is also attacking Syria.
Undeniable at this point who ISIS’s sponsors and controllers are.
https://southfront.press/isis-cells-kill-34-troops-in-central-syria-get-hammered-by-russian-airstrikes/

Posted by: Moses22 | Nov 9 2023 15:16 utc | 23

Posted by: Susan | Nov 9 2023 15:14 utc | 9
The two parties are different sides of the same coin, answering only to MIC and the globalists. if any serious opposition party materialized, it would be relentlessly attacked and demonized by both parties, the govenment and the MSM…

Posted by: ctiger | Nov 9 2023 15:20 utc | 25

A difficult topic: Jewishness and zionism. What are the intersections of zionism, genocidal, colonial anachronism, and Jewishness (I did not write Judaism to avoid reducing the question to Jewish religious fanatics).
I would post links to relevant articles but MoA website tends to block posts with links.
So first search on the web for “Zionism, Judaism and the Jewish State of Israel” by Lynda Burstein Brayer, a South African, Zionist-trained human rights lawyer who worked in occupied Palestine. It was published on the Saker’s website. She is sometimes published on Mondoweiss too.
Israel’s Culture of Deceit by Chris Hedges is a recent post somewhat relevant to the delicate issue. Israel’s Biblical Psychopathy by Laurent Guyénot on UNZ is a must-read, about Zionist psychopathy and its roots in Jewish supremacy.
To quote Burstein Brayer as published on The Saker:
«This existential distinction between the Jew and the goy is reflected in the absence of a Jewish universal moral code, an absence which is not found within either Christianity or Islam. Judaism’s moral code is characterized by its particularity: it only binds Jews vis-à-vis Jews, not Jews vis-à-vis goys. The most outstanding exemplar of this system is that a Jew is not bound to save the life of a goy if saving the life requires the use of electricity or travelling in a motor vehicle, such as an ambulance, because such activities are forbidden on the Sabbath as they are considered forms or work, and a Jew may not work on the Sabbath. a Jew may do so for another Jew according to the law known as pikuah nefesh which translates as saving a soul. A Jew not only may break the Sabbath to save a Jewish soul, he is obligated to do so. Pikuah may be translated as to take care of and to oversee, and nefesh means soul: because goys do not have souls, pikuah nefesh cannot be applied. In addition, another exceptional phenomena of the Jewish moral code is that it does also not make truth binding upon the Jew with respect to the goy. There are only two instances where it is recommended that a Jew ought to tell the truth to a goy: when there is a danger to his life, or if it is in the interests of the Jew or the Jewish community.
The question may now be asked as to why this information has been placed as a prolegomena to a description and analysis of the laws and practices of the Jewish state. The reason is quite straightforward: everything that I have described does not fall within the written laws passed by the legislative body of Israel, the Knesset, but serves, rather, as the matrix in which the laws are embedded and out of which the laws spring.»
Lynda Burstein Brayer goes to the heart of the problem, very few Gentiles or goy understand the tragedy and danger of those millennial layers of pathological Jewish socialization. There is no PC way to describe it.
Of course, many Jews in the imperial West, who like to think of themselves as “progressive” or even “antizionist” (very few really are, when it comes to the right of existence of a jewish settler entity and the obligation for jews to give back what they stole in the last century to Palestinians, including refugees).
If you take the time to read the mentioned introductions into the psycho and social pathology of zionism and Jewish supremacism, then I will add a few comments.
A post-zionist Palestine and post-zionist world will have to see jews disarmed, and the (real) international community will have to prevent any Jewish group from bearing weapons ever again. Or have any prominent role in any security state apparatus. It is too dangerous for humankind.
All Jews, including the so-called religious “anti-zionists” (who are enrolling in the ZOF to genocide the Gaza concentration camp) that are fooling the Gentiles, and the left “anti-zionists” that always insist on controlling the goys messaging around Palestine, Zionism, the Jews etc. Those all have one thing in common with their zionists relatives: when the Gentiles get angry and start to see the deceit, they form one monolithic (and psychopathic) block to deflect, diffuse, obfuscate and fight against any resistance. Even if it contributes to the endless cycle of anger, rebellion, pogroms etc. Then the lies are natural, instinctive, it does not matter how absurd or obscene, the gentiles are things, or “human animals”, or (for post-religious jews on the left) fully humans but still, they are a threat, they cannot be allowed to see, name, speak about this diasporic supremacism. That refusal to allow outside criticism (and of course self-criticism) is of course feeding judeophobia and pogroms, thus repeating the cycle.
«The brazenness of Israeli lies stunned those of us who reported from Gaza. It did not matter if we had seen the Israeli attack, including the shooting of unarmed Palestinians. It did not matter how many witnesses we interviewed. It did not matter what photographic and forensic evidence we obtained. Israel lied. Small lies. Big lies. Huge lies. These lies came reflexively and instantly from the Israeli military, Israeli politicians and Israeli media. They were amplified by Israel’s well-oiled propaganda machine and repeated with a cloying sincerity on international news outlets.» Chris Hedges, Israel’s culture of deceit.
Jews, those not already devoured from the inside by this psychopathy, need to self-reflect deeply and stop fighting against Goy resistance and criticism, but instead embrace it. And of course, help to defeat zionism, without any right, attempt or desire to control antizionism. Then Jewishness might heal and be able to relate as equals to non-Jews.

Posted by: Decolonial | Nov 9 2023 15:25 utc | 27

Ctuger true But I still think a fight against both parties will weaken both. We do not need to endorse any candidate just get people to boycott either party

Posted by: Susan | Nov 9 2023 15:26 utc | 29

b, I learn as much from the comment section as I do from main blog. Thank you for the MoA, and also thanks to all those who post informative, well considered comments.
Falsehoods keep us in a fake euphoria or else in despair. Only the truth sets us free.

Posted by: Moses22 | Nov 9 2023 15:33 utc | 31

Link to Today’s Crooke Napolitano talk. The discussion begins with Ukraine then moves to Palestine. Neither can come out and call what’s happening Genocide–“ethnic cleansing” and “war crimes”–but not the G word, which is the real elephant in the room. The Palestine portion begins about the 11:00 mark.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2023 15:35 utc | 33

Scott in Dallas @6 – Not confused. My point entirely. His comparison completely off the mark.

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 15:37 utc | 35

@13 Decolonial
This is a very important question, especially for progressive minded people. I have approached all religions as having something good to offer, and all ultimately leading us to a transcendent existence if not a Universal Being.
I have lately come to the sad and uncomfortable conclusion that Judaism does not fit into the above. It is more like a cult than a religion. I recommend reading Israel Shahak and his wonderful little book on 3,000 years of Jewish history and religion, with a forward by Gore Vidal and another forward by Edward Said.
https://archive.org/details/jewish-history-jewish-religion-the-weight-of-three-thousand-years-by-israel-shahak-126pgs

Posted by: Moses22 | Nov 9 2023 15:40 utc | 37

Doh it’s uncanny how often a new thread opens while I am writing on the old one 😬
Hence a repost.
For the trolls who have been trying to sale the crap of 1500 massacred by Hamas who just happened to stroll in that day . Not knowing where they were going, surprised they were able to get in so easily and told to gather a few hostages. Not carry out a mass slaughter. It Takes a lot of ammo though achieve that number of deaths… which they weren’t carrying on there , checks notes …paragliders 🥴
Anyway.
It is now being admitted that 10/7 was a preplanned false flag. It has multiple objectives as all such conspiracies do. And a lot of cover and smoke to hide real purposes.
Yes they want to clear Gaza and West Bank and retain the last colony of the Euro imperialism in the Levant. But they also are losing by everywhere else too.
Maybe they want to go out with a bang rather than a whimper. But this time they won’t get away with it by being thousands of miles away behind the front, hidden even behind politicians and generals- the Multipolaristas know who they are and where.
As i speculated early on that it was probably a cover for Israeli soldiers deaths in Ukraine, they can’t be admitted to have died there , they needed some pretext for their deaths in Israel itself where the charred bodies would never be examined by pathologists to determine which bullets killed them – god forbid if it turns out they were Russian!
All these ships in a pond next to Israel , all these military planes that landed there from Europe in last few weeks – I do so hope they didn’t bring natzo troops to help out likckle wickle iswal in terrorising and murdering in cold blood tens of thousands of Palestinians and suddenly being hit by missiles that BURN a few thousand of them to death too!
At least they’ll get their military funeral and some dumb story for their families.
Hey some may get the Viking funeral in a few of these floating by targets in a barrel in the gulf !
If only the pesky Arabs would just hurry up and fire a few anti ship missiles – but they keep refusing to be incited!! Bastards.
Here is some Twitter about the admissions of the pilots.
‘ PVPGurl Gigi
@PVPGurl
9h
Replying to @SamParkerSenate
Many of the civilian deaths came from Israeli Apache pilots not knowing who was Hamas & who were civilians so they just fired a huge amount of munitions at everyone fleeing the Nova festival:
Israel’s two Apache helicopter squadrons had 8 choppers in the air, “and there was almost no intelligence to help make fateful decisions,” Mako reported. The squadrons did not reach full strength until noon.
As the wave of infiltrations from Gaza drove chaos on the ground, discombobulated Israeli pilots unleashed a frenzy of missile and machine gun salvos: “The Apache pilots testify that they fired a huge amount of munitions, emptied the ‘belly of the helicopter’ in minutes, flew to re-arm and returned to the air, again and again. But it didn’t help and they understand it,” Mako reported.
The Apache helicopters appear to have focused on vehicles streaming back into Gaza from the Nova electronic music festival and nearby kibbutzes, attacked cars with apparent knowledge that Israeli captives could be inside. They also fired on unarmed people exiting cars or walking on foot through the fields on the periphery of Gaza. One Apache pilot reflected on the tortuous dilemma of whether to shoot at people and cars returning to Gaza. He knew that many of those vehicles may have contained Israeli captives. But he chose to open fire anyway. “I choose targets like that,” the pilot reflected, “where I tell myself that the chance that I am shooting here on hostages as well is low.” However, he admitted that his judgment “was not 100%.”
“I understand that we have to shoot here and quickly,” the commander of the Apache unit, Lt. Col. E., told Mako in a separate report. “Shooting at people in our territory – this is something I never thought I would do.”
Lt. Col. A., a reserve pilot in the same unit, described a fog of confusion: “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at, because there are so many of them.”
A report on the Apache squadrons by the Israeli outlet Yedioth Aharanoth noted that “the pilots realized that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.” ‘
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“Thousands of Terrorists “ – they think we are fools !

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 9 2023 15:42 utc | 39

@18 Moses22
Thanks for the link, and for being here!

Posted by: Decolonial | Nov 9 2023 15:44 utc | 41

Middle East Eye is updating its news live.
“Fares, a medical student who is volunteering in Gaza’s al-Aqsa Hospital tells Middle East Eye’s contributor Ahmed Al Sammakk that the situation is “horrific and unspeakable” right now.
:“Two days ago, a bag of body parts was brought to the hospital. A man identified his niece from her hand and another relative from a leg. He was unable to identify other relatives by the other body parts,” he said.
“Fares says that roads to hospitals have been bombed, houses levelled, with hundreds trapped under the rubble…..”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-live-gaza-hamas-war-invasion
It also reports thst “Students at 28 universities across the UK are staging a walkout in order to call for a ceasefire on Thursday and Friday.
“Those participating are demanding the immediate lifting of the siege on Gaza…”
The United States government has moored its fortune to the sinking hulk of Israeli fascism and ultra racism.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 9 2023 15:48 utc | 43

Re: northern front
……17:26 The Islamic Resistance confirms that two Merkava tanks were hit and their crews were killed or wounded during the missile attack on the Israeli site of Metulla….
Comment – takes the claimed count up to 65 MBTs knocked out in both Northern and Fromts.
How Many Main Battle Tanks in the IDF ?
From Wikipedia
Active in Service
160 Merkava 3
330 Merkava 4
———————-
490 total Active
Mothballed/Storage
660 Merkava 3
220 Merkava 4
———————
880 total Mothballed

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2023 15:49 utc | 45

3,000 years of Jewish history
Posted by: Moses22 | Nov 9 2023 15:40 utc | 18
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Such bullshit.
All the Abrahmic beliefs were re-codified around 500CE.
The synchronicity of the new canonizations informs that an external broad cultural undercurrent was at work.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2023 15:51 utc | 47

I don’t want to ruin watching the video, but the main point IMO is made at the end–the Outlaw US Empire is “powerless” to halt the Zionist Crimes–Napolitano is correct to call it “a game” as his body language conveys the reality that it’s a cynical game that’s been ongoing for decades. As many here have noted, the Zionists control the Outlaw US Empire in this region, while those running the government cannot define what specific national security interests are threatened by the Palestinian revolt.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2023 15:52 utc | 49

Warsaw Ghetto 2 with Israel playing the role of the SS.

Posted by: John | Nov 9 2023 15:53 utc | 51

“The WSWS calls for the end to the reactionary Zionist capitalist state, whose existence is based on the colonialist theft of Palestinian land. It has been sustained for 75 years through brutal oppression, with relentless acts of violence now culminating in outright genocide. The claim that opposition to mass murder by the Israeli state is “antisemitism” is a contemptible lie and a libel against Jewish people.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/11/09/lkrk-n09.html
Total agreement with this statement, although I’m not sure this group is willing to really fight.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 9 2023 15:54 utc | 53

Oops !
75 MBTs claimed knocked out ( not 65 )

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2023 15:55 utc | 55

bevin | Nov 9 2023 15:48 utc | 21–
The United States government has moored its fortune to the sinking hulk of Israeli fascism and ultra racism.
That’s one of several points made by Crooke. Yes, the Empire is complicit in the War Crimes. The entire world sees the horrors more than those in the Empire and thus global enmity is escalating. There are “free agents” not associated with Iran within Iraq that are attacking the Empire’s bases, causing casualties and are very likely to escalate the ferocity of their attacks. And then there’re the key bases in Qatar and Bahrain along with those in Syria.
I’ll post this info later; in her weekly briefing, Zakharova mentioned the Zionists are playing games over the evacuation of Russian citizens from Gaza, and that’s a big mistake.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2023 16:06 utc | 57

bevin | Nov 9 2023 15:48 utc | 21–
The United States government has moored its fortune to the sinking hulk of Israeli fascism and ultra racism.
That’s one of several points made by Crooke. Yes, the Empire is complicit in the War Crimes. The entire world sees the horrors more than those in the Empire and thus global enmity is escalating. There are “free agents” not associated with Iran within Iraq that are attacking the Empire’s bases, causing casualties and are very likely to escalate the ferocity of their attacks. And then there’re the key bases in Qatar and Bahrain along with those in Syria.
I’ll post this info later; in her weekly briefing, Zakharova mentioned the Zionists are playing games over the evacuation of Russian citizens from Gaza, and that’s a big mistake.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2023 16:06 utc | 59

MK Bhadrakumar sums the Middle Esast situation up brilliantly today.
And things could hardly be worse for the Empire- there is a price to be paid for decades of galloping hunbris topped off with the installation of a demented crook as President.
“..The forthcoming first visit by Iran’s President Ebrahim Raisi to Saudi Arabia on November 13 marks a milestone in the rapprochement between the two countries mediated by China in March. The relationship is fast acquiring a qualitatively new level of solidarity in the context of the Palestine-Israel conflict.
“This marks a shift in the tectonic plates in regional politics, which has long been dominated by the United States but no longer so…
“…events since October 7 make it abundantly clear that the US attempts to integrate Israel into its Muslim neighbourhood in its terms is a pipe dream — ie., unless and until Israel is willing to turn its sword into plowshares. The ferocity of the Israeli revenge attacks on the people of Gaza — “animals” — smacks of racism and genocide….”
“…the high probability is that it is now a matter of time before the global community insists on stopping the Israeli apartheid state on its tracks. For, when Muslim countries unite, they call the shots in the emerging multipolar world order. Their demand that a settlement of the Palestine problem brooks no further delay has gained resonance, including in the Western Hemisphere.”
https://www.indianpunchline.com/arab-iran-amity-is-a-geopolitical-reality/
That rustling in the distance is the sound of cards being folded in Washington- the game is coming to an end.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 9 2023 16:07 utc | 61

I’m having great difficulty believing “Israel’s” claim in the Oz MSM that there are IOF boots on the ground suŕrounding Gaza City. I’ve seen pics of “Israeli” Main Battle Tank joyriders looking for soft targets.
But my understanding of warfare sequence is that you don’t put boots on ground until there are obvious signs that your remote aerial and artillery bombardment (from a safe distance) has yielded a visible weakening of the target’s effectiveness.
I’ll never believe that the IOF has members brave/foolhardy enough to dive into HAMAS’ tunnel network and expect to survive.
Imo, the fakery is exposed by the fact that the IOF Airfarce has stepped up the ferocity of its bombing.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 9 2023 16:09 utc | 63

Link to Today’s Crooke Napolitano talk. The discussion begins with Ukraine then moves to Palestine. Neither can come out and call what’s happening Genocide–“ethnic cleansing” and “war crimes”–but not the G word, which is the real elephant in the room. The Palestine portion begins about the 11:00 mark.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2023 15:35 utc | 16
Tbh, I stopped listening to Crooke many months ago because how to say this politely, I find him to have a 19th century colonial mentality. With his soft spoken manner he drops xenophobic and Islamophobic seeds when he talks. He mentions immigrants in Italy (in other talks) as if they arrived from Mars. He is part of the clique that created all these problemss in my view. While he may have been involved in hostage swaps a while back it doesn’t seem he has any special inside info from contacts now.
@bevin 21 That middle east eye update is too horrifying. I don’t know how people can recover from things like that. But they must.

Posted by: pq | Nov 9 2023 16:10 utc | 65

Summary from the South Lebanon front for 10/11/2023:

17:13 Fresh explosions reported at the Ain al-Assad base, which is under American occupation in western Iraq
17:09 Islamic Resistance announces it successfully targeted an Israeli mechanized infantry force in the occupied Lebanese village of Tarbikha (Shomera), achieving direct hits
16:55 Video | Drone Explosion in Eilat More..
16:23 Al-Manar correspondent: Israeli artillery bombed the Kafr Kila meadow, the outskirts of the town of Burj al-Muluk, the Hamames area in Khiam, the Marjayoun plain, and Abel al-Qamh
15:43 Islamic Resistance: Our fighters attacked the Metula site with guided missiles and caused direct hits in support of Palestinian people, resistance in Gaza
15:42 Israeli Channel 14: The explosion in Eilat was caused by a suicide drone that exploded in the city
13:50 Jenin-based resistance fighters detonate explosive device targeting Israeli tank: Palestinian sources
12:33 Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon: Israeli artillery shells border town of Qatmoun, area between Ramieh and Beit Lif
12:01 Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon: Israeli artillery shells outskirts of Rmeish border town

In 30 years I’ve not seen such timid responses from ‘israel’ against the Lebanese. 2006 must have left a deep and lasting scar …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2023 16:11 utc | 67

Isreal Shahak said it honestly. I reading his books, which clearly explain how these monsters think, and how corrupt they are in every cell of their being. Shahak’s books clearly detail, from the very writings that the monsters rely on historically for every aspect of their belief systems, that the religion of these monsters justifies the genocide.
They all live by it. All of them. There are no innocents among the monsters. They control our government, military, budgets, media, horrorwood censorship, public policy, food production…literally they control America. We are ruled by a morally bankrupt foriegn power. How much longer will we goyim sit idle while we are murdered, one at a time in countless ways?
The monsters will never change. We are all ignorant peons, who have no future except as slaves unless we make better choices. We need to conduct self defensive actions to regain control of ourselves, our country, and our world.

Posted by: no lies no wars | Nov 9 2023 16:13 utc | 69

About Judaïsm and Sionism.
Sionism is a political stance. An opinion held by some people who engage their responsability. We can argue about it.
Judaïsm, like all religion or cultural backgroud, is the way of life and praise of human people.
It is the same with any other culture, It must be respected. It is the core of feeling of people. We each have things we respect.
There is a huge difference between political thinking and cultural or religious elaboration.
The amalek part of the Bible can not stand as it is. But we have a duty if our aim his global peace to discriminate and not amalgamate.
Rectitude is needed. We can ask for a human sense of things in each culture, but we have to grow axare that generalisation are misleading.

Posted by: Baile | Nov 9 2023 16:19 utc | 71

@ no. 8 by way of no. 3
Would like to hear more of this “MacGregor is a zionist shill.” How, why, where?

Posted by: botete | Nov 9 2023 16:25 utc | 73

Regarding the point made by @Karlofi 24 about the Empire being powerless, this may seem very woo woo
but in trying to figure out who’s the top dog here I found this video interesting. She also has two other videos worth watching. One is Israelis recounting what they did in 1948 and the other is of Yahoo when he declares war on resistance to an occupying power.
https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2023/10/17/body-language-netanyahu-antony-blinken/
I’ve been puzzled myself. Biden is clearly not all there. Nuland’s pet project was Ukraine. Blinken in this video seems like an out of place messenger boy. Yahoo is clearly dominating. The real powers are hidden in the shadows. Meanwhile it’s like the killer robot has gone rogue and taken over the programmers. But thinking back to Yahoo’s ordering the Congress around in 2015 but also how he pushed for the Iraq war in 2002, this goes back a long way.
Personally I believe nobody is in charge any more. Hamas’ caper ended up being a Black Swan event that has exposed all the fractures and rifts in the various vassals who tied their fate to the US Empire and meanwhile the US UK Empire is exposed as Punch and Judy puppet show with a psycho Israeli Cabinet at the strings…except they don’t know what they’re doing either besides breaking all their toys in a fit of rage.

Posted by: pq | Nov 9 2023 16:25 utc | 75

@ pq
earlier in the thread you slammed Crooke including that you stopped listening to him; do you have something specific to refer us to or is this simply you don’t like his manneerisms?
these smears on people like MacGregor and Crooke seem a little sly to me especially when not backed up specifically.

Posted by: botete | Nov 9 2023 16:34 utc | 77

re macgregor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxpzOojtCs&t=43s
judge for yourself.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:35 utc | 79

Macgregor compares the slaughter to war crimes in world war 2. same tack zionist shills are taking. this isn’t a war between more or less equal rival states, it’s a genocide. it’s not a smear to go by the guy’s own words. is that specific enough for you?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:39 utc | 81

Baile @35
Friend, this has been exactly my erroneous thinking since I was a schoolboy. I now see at age 63 I was quite wrong. Zionism is to classical Judaism thought what fish are to water. This whole issue of Untermenschen and human animals is the other side of the coin of “Chosen People”.
Read Israel Shahak. I provided the link to his book in a post above.

Posted by: Moses22 | Nov 9 2023 16:43 utc | 83

How Oil Companies Play Monopoly – Peter Barnes : Peter Barnes
https://peter-barnes.org/article/how-oil-companies-play-monopoly/
Yuval Steinitz – Wikipedia head of energy in Israel until a few years ago all about switch from coal to gas
and the Lavantine Pipe line to Italy, Greece and Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuval_Steinitz
https://www.southfront.press/follow-the-gas-to-understand-the-war-between-israel-and-hamas/
“A turning point was the Israeli military operation in Gaza in December 2008 – wrote Mahmoud Elkhafif, coordinator for Palestine of Unctad, a UN agency – Following the operation, the Palestinian natural gas fields they were effectively placed under Israeli control without regard to international law. The question of sovereignty over the Gaza gas fields is crucial. From a legal point of view, the gas reserves belong to the occupied Palestinian territories.”
The Likud Party: A Primer on JSTOR https://www.jstor.org/stable/2537218
apparently Biden has signed a defense pact with the Saudi ..which has become a formal treaty
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/04/23/saudi-arabia-targets-a-more-republican-washington/ anyone know anything about this?
I believe the entire reason for pushing those in Gaza out is about who profits in the oil and gas benefits..
read the above links and tell me if you don’t come to the same conclusion.
here is the background i published yesterday.. it invludes some useful maps.
here is the link: https://southfront.press/follow-the-gas-to-understand-the-war-between-israel-and-hamas/
clearing the Palestinians out of Gaza is a must for the gas pipeline deals designed to force Russia out of Europe. see also these links for more
https://www.timesofisrael.com/monopoly-nation-how-a-handful-of-firms-control-prices-hold-israelis-to-ransom/
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/standing-up-to-israels-gas-monopoly/
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/israel-gives-nod-gaza-marine-gas-development-wants-security-assurances-2023-06-18/
https://www.rt.com/business/586105-kiev-gas-transit-deal-moscow/
https://www.tiktok.com/@richardmedhurst/video/7295815659764714785?_r=1&_t=8gxCY2v3Hk1
https://www.newarab.com/sites/default/files/2023-06/afp.com-20120717-GR-INFO-GR309277-preview.jpg
https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FF88GBvbXQGwndIi.jpg

Posted by: snake | Nov 9 2023 16:43 utc | 85

Snake — again thank you for the links yesterday re the gas situation. This discussion by an Egyptian career diplomat, Heshga Youssef is a clearer intro to the topic than the SouthFront one, which while very informative is hard to get through:
“How a Gaza Marine deal would benefit Palestinians, Israelis and the region.”

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 16:48 utc | 87

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 9 2023 16:39 utc | 40
Been missing your fine tuning. Glad you’re back.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 9 2023 16:48 utc | 89

Gah. It is “Hesham” Yooussef

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 16:49 utc | 91

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 9 2023 15:02 utc | 5
I find military analysis such as yours to betray a lack of expertise to opine on such matters.
A few basic facts undermine your notions.
First one is the fact that the caliber of the crew operating equipment is a very significant factor in their warmaking abilities.
The second one is that these stats are results of a complex of interacting capabilities (or lack thereof). USA AF operating warplanes, for example, is not the same thing as KSA AF the very same machines. These are two different militaries and KSA is simply not in the same league, though there is a pretense at playing the same sport. This is is true in matters ranging from budget, doctrine, institutions, training, motivation, logistics, ….

Posted by: robinthehood | Nov 9 2023 16:50 utc | 93

I will get it right someday.
Hesham Youssef

Posted by: Pundita | Nov 9 2023 16:51 utc | 95

Posted by: pq | Nov 9 2023 16:25 utc | 37
Think you are wrong.
US is simply sidelining with IS, while pretending it is not.
If US really wanted to put IS on the line, it will be as simple as telling Netanyau that they will take off carrier groups, military and economic assistance and support inside UN.
I guess Bibi will comply and start wagging is tail.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 9 2023 16:51 utc | 97

@ pq
earlier in the thread you slammed Crooke including that you stopped listening to him; do you have something specific to refer us to or is this simply you don’t like his manneerisms?
these smears on people like MacGregor and Crooke seem a little sly to me especially when not backed up specifically.
Posted by: botete | Nov 9 2023 16:34 utc | 38
“The rise of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe has become another factor impeding the EU’s ability to respond to the Islamist challenge.” Crooke in 2011 in the London Review of Books, Vol. 33 No. 5 · 3 March 2011.
Anybody who talks about “Islamist Challenge” is one of the operators that helped create the Islamist Challenge in the first place as a tool of Empire.
I am allowed to have my opinion. I followed both MacGregor and Crooke on Ukraine for many months and agreed with much of their analysis on that issue.
However both of these are fundamentally against a shift of power from the Empire to non-white, non-Christian players. That’s why Rusia is “OK” and they are not rabidly anti-Russian.
The difference between Russia/Ukraine and Palestine/Israel includes an element of race/religion difference. Not everyone is able to get out of a “racist/Empire knows best” mindset and I believe MacGregor and Crooke are not able to do that.
MacGregor in one of his recent talks said something about “Hamas and Hezollah being at the Mexican border ready to coordinate attacks on US soil”. When asked about this, even Ritter said it was Islamophobic.
I emphasize I’ve watched these guys with several different interviewers so I cannot remember which are the specific interviews that made me give up on them. Probably Judge but possibly not.

Posted by: pq | Nov 9 2023 16:53 utc | 99