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November 5, 2023
Palestine Open Thread 2023-262

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Zionism is showing it’s true face to the world.
Perhaps that is the greatest victory to come out of the struggle in Gaza.

Posted by: librul | Nov 5 2023 14:11 utc | 1

Zionism is showing it’s true face to the world.
Perhaps that is the greatest victory to come out of the struggle in Gaza.

Posted by: librul | Nov 5 2023 14:11 utc | 2

Re: Post War Rebuilding
The Levantine Arabs are mercantile and productive people, they‘ll rebuild back better. Plus the hundreds of billions in reparations paid by Tel Aviv will speed up the process.
Should Settlers squating on illegal acquired Arab properties pay 50 years back rent ?
Should Arab Widows and Orphans receive life long pensions paid by Tel Aviv ?
Should the assets of the Israel Central Bank be seized to pay reparations ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:12 utc | 3

Re: Post War Rebuilding
The Levantine Arabs are mercantile and productive people, they‘ll rebuild back better. Plus the hundreds of billions in reparations paid by Tel Aviv will speed up the process.
Should Settlers squating on illegal acquired Arab properties pay 50 years back rent ?
Should Arab Widows and Orphans receive life long pensions paid by Tel Aviv ?
Should the assets of the Israel Central Bank be seized to pay reparations ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:12 utc | 4

Got up, surfing Slavyangrad. Just amazed at all the vids of isr occ forces entering various West Bank cities and killing people as Blinken was getting ready to go to Ramallah. iirc yesterday iOf actually sent tanks into Ramallah. Blinken meeting lasted possibly less than an hour. Went to IndianPunchline, new post, not bad, but nothing about Abbas and Ramallah. Saw the new 10 km range fired from back of truck in action for 1rst time for Hezbollah. pm of israel is still enamoured on entering Gaza. Gonna heat up.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Nov 5 2023 14:24 utc | 5

Got up, surfing Slavyangrad. Just amazed at all the vids of isr occ forces entering various West Bank cities and killing people as Blinken was getting ready to go to Ramallah. iirc yesterday iOf actually sent tanks into Ramallah. Blinken meeting lasted possibly less than an hour. Went to IndianPunchline, new post, not bad, but nothing about Abbas and Ramallah. Saw the new 10 km range fired from back of truck in action for 1rst time for Hezbollah. pm of israel is still enamoured on entering Gaza. Gonna heat up.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Nov 5 2023 14:24 utc | 6

There sure are a lot of big brain thinkers here, stroking themselves silly, about the imminent demise of the “Zionist Entity”. Judging by the unfolding scenes in Western capitals, the West has a greater long term jihad problem than Israel does. Diversity is so awesome, right? The deabcle of October 7 aside, Israel can defend its borders and culture, while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 7

There sure are a lot of big brain thinkers here, stroking themselves silly, about the imminent demise of the “Zionist Entity”. Judging by the unfolding scenes in Western capitals, the West has a greater long term jihad problem than Israel does. Diversity is so awesome, right? The deabcle of October 7 aside, Israel can defend its borders and culture, while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 8

overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4
In this you are not correct, there have been quite a few shots fired.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 9

overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4
In this you are not correct, there have been quite a few shots fired.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 10

UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundries of Israel. Likud failed

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 11

UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundries of Israel. Likud failed

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 12

New interview with former Canadian Armed Forces member, Mike Mihajlovic. He’s interviewed by Real Truth Talk (I’m not sure who that is, haven’t watched yet). Given how useful I’ve found his Tweets to be, I expect the 1 hour interview may be even more useful. Although I’ve yet to listen to it.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/realtruthtalk-interview-41f

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 5 2023 14:34 utc | 13

New interview with former Canadian Armed Forces member, Mike Mihajlovic. He’s interviewed by Real Truth Talk (I’m not sure who that is, haven’t watched yet). Given how useful I’ve found his Tweets to be, I expect the 1 hour interview may be even more useful. Although I’ve yet to listen to it.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/realtruthtalk-interview-41f

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 5 2023 14:34 utc | 14

Global Times article relates Chinese and international angst, “Israel’s blunt rejection of US call for pause reflects failed US strategy, as anger fuels with Washington’s excessive leniency”:

The swift rejection by Israel of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s call for a humanitarian pause in Gaza has been seen as a reflection of the diminishing influence of the US in the Middle East and the failure of its global governance, experts said on Saturday, as anger mounts with the US launching of a military exercise in the Mediterranean Sea, which could further inflame tensions in the region.
Arriving in Tel Aviv for the fourth time in a month and reiterating continued support for Israel, Blinken issued one of the Biden administration’s strongest warnings to Israel in a blunt call to pause military operations in Gaza to allow for the immediate and increased delivery of aid.
However, the call was rebuffed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu only a few minutes later, who said Israel would be “going with full steam ahead.”
The embarrassing moment came as Israel announced its troops have encircled Gaza City, and its offensive involving air strikes and ground forces by far killing more than 9,200 people, among whom some 3,800 were children, media reports said.

Martyanov in this video presentation reports on a graphic that was supplied by a US Senator about the huge disparity in civilian deaths between Gaza and Ukraine, which means the Outlaw US Empire cannot call out Russia without also calling out the Zionists–AND–that vast disparity will also be seen by RoW as genocidal war crime by Zionists. That all takes place in the first 10 minutes of the video and is damning.
Back to the Global Times item:

Experts further noted that with the limitless support for Israel, the US is burying its Middle East policy as well as its global strategy.
“Washington is caught between the need to support Israel and the desire to gain favor from the Arab world. And now, with its excessive leniency toward Israel, a growing distance is seen between the US and its Arab allies, who are well aware that Israel’s ability to act with impunity is primarily due to American support. In other words, the US has offended the entire Islamic world for the sake of Israel,” Tian said.
From a global perspective, the US is also losing ground on a moral front, given it has long championed itself as having values based foreign policy. Now with the blatant display of a double standard, the US has undermined its own credibility, the expert said.

Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do. I wonder how many honest sermons will be rendered in Christian churches globally today condemning what’s happening in Gaza and those responsible for as was said at the UNSC, the occupying power has no “right to self-defense.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 15

Global Times article relates Chinese and international angst, “Israel’s blunt rejection of US call for pause reflects failed US strategy, as anger fuels with Washington’s excessive leniency”:

The swift rejection by Israel of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s call for a humanitarian pause in Gaza has been seen as a reflection of the diminishing influence of the US in the Middle East and the failure of its global governance, experts said on Saturday, as anger mounts with the US launching of a military exercise in the Mediterranean Sea, which could further inflame tensions in the region.
Arriving in Tel Aviv for the fourth time in a month and reiterating continued support for Israel, Blinken issued one of the Biden administration’s strongest warnings to Israel in a blunt call to pause military operations in Gaza to allow for the immediate and increased delivery of aid.
However, the call was rebuffed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu only a few minutes later, who said Israel would be “going with full steam ahead.”
The embarrassing moment came as Israel announced its troops have encircled Gaza City, and its offensive involving air strikes and ground forces by far killing more than 9,200 people, among whom some 3,800 were children, media reports said.

Martyanov in this video presentation reports on a graphic that was supplied by a US Senator about the huge disparity in civilian deaths between Gaza and Ukraine, which means the Outlaw US Empire cannot call out Russia without also calling out the Zionists–AND–that vast disparity will also be seen by RoW as genocidal war crime by Zionists. That all takes place in the first 10 minutes of the video and is damning.
Back to the Global Times item:

Experts further noted that with the limitless support for Israel, the US is burying its Middle East policy as well as its global strategy.
“Washington is caught between the need to support Israel and the desire to gain favor from the Arab world. And now, with its excessive leniency toward Israel, a growing distance is seen between the US and its Arab allies, who are well aware that Israel’s ability to act with impunity is primarily due to American support. In other words, the US has offended the entire Islamic world for the sake of Israel,” Tian said.
From a global perspective, the US is also losing ground on a moral front, given it has long championed itself as having values based foreign policy. Now with the blatant display of a double standard, the US has undermined its own credibility, the expert said.

Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do. I wonder how many honest sermons will be rendered in Christian churches globally today condemning what’s happening in Gaza and those responsible for as was said at the UNSC, the occupying power has no “right to self-defense.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 16

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6
“UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundaries of Israel.”
Yes, but here is the crux of the problem. Hamas and most Palestinians will never recognize any Israeli state. They want all the Israelis dead and buried. And most Israelis will never trust a Palestinian, let alone, let a Palestinian state be awarded, after the October 7 death orgy. It’s probably best to let Israel finish the Hamas/Palestinian dream now, once and for all. Their best bet is demilitarized bantustans, or seeking refugee status in the West. Israel has nothing to lose at this point. Bibi is political toast, anyway.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 17

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6
“UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundaries of Israel.”
Yes, but here is the crux of the problem. Hamas and most Palestinians will never recognize any Israeli state. They want all the Israelis dead and buried. And most Israelis will never trust a Palestinian, let alone, let a Palestinian state be awarded, after the October 7 death orgy. It’s probably best to let Israel finish the Hamas/Palestinian dream now, once and for all. Their best bet is demilitarized bantustans, or seeking refugee status in the West. Israel has nothing to lose at this point. Bibi is political toast, anyway.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 18

while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.

IDF isn’t an army, it’s a bedwetters club of cowards and murderers. Israel has, through her unjustifiable mass murder of innocents, forever branded her and her citizens in history as Nazi Germany 2.0.
Israeli citizens will be discussed in the same tones as the Nazi populace, only given the religious angle and the voluminous video evidence of Israeli ethnic and religious supremacism it will likely be with even less sympathy.
What exactly do you fascists think happens in the future for the Israeli state? They do their ethnic cleansing of millions and get Greater Israel while Maerica collapses under her own contraditions. What happens next? Israel isn’t going to be able to dominate the region.
I think you will find blood doesnt wash off easily. Your state is pathetic and murderous.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 19

while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired.

IDF isn’t an army, it’s a bedwetters club of cowards and murderers. Israel has, through her unjustifiable mass murder of innocents, forever branded her and her citizens in history as Nazi Germany 2.0.
Israeli citizens will be discussed in the same tones as the Nazi populace, only given the religious angle and the voluminous video evidence of Israeli ethnic and religious supremacism it will likely be with even less sympathy.
What exactly do you fascists think happens in the future for the Israeli state? They do their ethnic cleansing of millions and get Greater Israel while Maerica collapses under her own contraditions. What happens next? Israel isn’t going to be able to dominate the region.
I think you will find blood doesnt wash off easily. Your state is pathetic and murderous.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 20

It’s probably best to let Israel finish the Hamas/Palestinian dream now, once and for all.

You will find it harder to kill 2 million people than you breezily suggest. Cowards like you make me sick.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:02 utc | 21

It’s probably best to let Israel finish the Hamas/Palestinian dream now, once and for all.

You will find it harder to kill 2 million people than you breezily suggest. Cowards like you make me sick.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:02 utc | 22

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8
“Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do.”
I get the distinct impression that Israel doesn’t really care what the Global Majority thinks of them, or whatever colorful names are ascribed to them. Once this mess is mopped up, all the pigs will be back at the trough.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 15:06 utc | 23

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8
“Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do.”
I get the distinct impression that Israel doesn’t really care what the Global Majority thinks of them, or whatever colorful names are ascribed to them. Once this mess is mopped up, all the pigs will be back at the trough.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 15:06 utc | 24

Israel is compounding its real problem, which is demographics..The 7 million jews in Israel aren’t having enough kids(apart from the Ultra-Orthodox) and that’s largely true of jews worldwide..They are being outbred by the 2 million non-jews in Israel, and the whole Arab world (Egypt now at 110 million)..Yet they are constantly provoking violence, and taking casualties as a result, and convincing young jews to stay away from the place..I know some who have left Israel to live in the US…It really is a suicidal path….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 5 2023 15:07 utc | 25

Israel is compounding its real problem, which is demographics..The 7 million jews in Israel aren’t having enough kids(apart from the Ultra-Orthodox) and that’s largely true of jews worldwide..They are being outbred by the 2 million non-jews in Israel, and the whole Arab world (Egypt now at 110 million)..Yet they are constantly provoking violence, and taking casualties as a result, and convincing young jews to stay away from the place..I know some who have left Israel to live in the US…It really is a suicidal path….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 5 2023 15:07 utc | 26

Re: Oct 7th orgy of violence
Israeli sources say the IDF was responsible for killing Israelis – Hannibal Directive. 2 articles –
Jewish American Ron Unz deep dive into IDF mass killing of Israelis on 7.Oct
https://www.unz.com/runz/pro-israel-propaganda-lies-vs-reality/
Jewish American Max Blumenthal overview of IDF killings of Israelis on 7.Oct
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
No wonder Israelis are picketing Netanyahu and calling him a murderer

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 15:09 utc | 27

Re: Oct 7th orgy of violence
Israeli sources say the IDF was responsible for killing Israelis – Hannibal Directive. 2 articles –
Jewish American Ron Unz deep dive into IDF mass killing of Israelis on 7.Oct
https://www.unz.com/runz/pro-israel-propaganda-lies-vs-reality/
Jewish American Max Blumenthal overview of IDF killings of Israelis on 7.Oct
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
No wonder Israelis are picketing Netanyahu and calling him a murderer

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 15:09 utc | 28

I get the distinct impression that Israel doesn’t really care what the Global Majority thinks of them

Through their use of espionage and their widespread media influence, zionist scumbags indeed have been able to hoodwink the Western public for many years.
That is coming to an end. When you and the rest of your IDF buddies are done corpsefucking and congratulating each other, you will find few able to do business with you even if they want to. South Africa comes to mind.
What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 29

I get the distinct impression that Israel doesn’t really care what the Global Majority thinks of them

Through their use of espionage and their widespread media influence, zionist scumbags indeed have been able to hoodwink the Western public for many years.
That is coming to an end. When you and the rest of your IDF buddies are done corpsefucking and congratulating each other, you will find few able to do business with you even if they want to. South Africa comes to mind.
What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 30

Another excellent op/ed from Global Timestells it as it is. I’m very tempted to reproduce it all but will limit the excerpts to this while urging barflies to read the whole item:

It is precisely because of the US’ unlimited support for Israel and the cowardice of the US and Europe that led to the failure to take action to maintain peace. Israel marched into Gaza without any scruples, carrying US-made weapons and equipment.
So far, the US has not called for shifting the focus to a ceasefire. Instead, it supported Israel’s retaliatory strikes against Gaza and enhanced the deployment of force to restrain the involvement of other forces in the Middle East.
What is shocking is that some senior US officials are still questioning the Palestinian death toll; some US media outlets said that China’s proposal of the two-state solution is an “empty slogan”; some US scholars have even publicly declared that the two-state solution is dead.
On November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 181 calling for the establishment of an Arab state and a Jewish state.
After the 1967 War, Israel occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which was equivalent to taking all the land assigned to Palestine by the United Nations as its own.

The author uses the term “cowardice” which is only partially correct since the Zionist project was also that of the West’s Imperialist project that is now in full retreat. The Zionists have announced their goal of Genocide which the West is too cowardly to challenge and that’s leading to an reality that will be very difficult to alter–Palestinian and Arab acceptance of the Zionist entity and the greater world’s acceptance of Zionist Genocide. We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance. There is absolutely no room on the planet for people like the Zionists and their abettors, and that’s a Truth some are unwilling to admit/accept primarily because they’re Zionists.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 31

Another excellent op/ed from Global Timestells it as it is. I’m very tempted to reproduce it all but will limit the excerpts to this while urging barflies to read the whole item:

It is precisely because of the US’ unlimited support for Israel and the cowardice of the US and Europe that led to the failure to take action to maintain peace. Israel marched into Gaza without any scruples, carrying US-made weapons and equipment.
So far, the US has not called for shifting the focus to a ceasefire. Instead, it supported Israel’s retaliatory strikes against Gaza and enhanced the deployment of force to restrain the involvement of other forces in the Middle East.
What is shocking is that some senior US officials are still questioning the Palestinian death toll; some US media outlets said that China’s proposal of the two-state solution is an “empty slogan”; some US scholars have even publicly declared that the two-state solution is dead.
On November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 181 calling for the establishment of an Arab state and a Jewish state.
After the 1967 War, Israel occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which was equivalent to taking all the land assigned to Palestine by the United Nations as its own.

The author uses the term “cowardice” which is only partially correct since the Zionist project was also that of the West’s Imperialist project that is now in full retreat. The Zionists have announced their goal of Genocide which the West is too cowardly to challenge and that’s leading to an reality that will be very difficult to alter–Palestinian and Arab acceptance of the Zionist entity and the greater world’s acceptance of Zionist Genocide. We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance. There is absolutely no room on the planet for people like the Zionists and their abettors, and that’s a Truth some are unwilling to admit/accept primarily because they’re Zionists.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 32

@Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4
A project, a multicultural, multireligious Europe, curiously pushed by certain Jewish powerful people, like Barbara Lecter Spectre, through her “Incubator Project” by Paideia org., of a multicultural Europe directed by Jews, as told by Spanish-American journalist Cesar Vidal in one his last editorials, while they want an ethnically pure Jewsih state in Palestine..
Why this could be so? Does not sound quite strident?
https://cesarvidal.com/la-voz/editorial/editorial-barbara-lerner-spectre-y-paideia-23-10-23

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 5 2023 15:15 utc | 33

@Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4
A project, a multicultural, multireligious Europe, curiously pushed by certain Jewish powerful people, like Barbara Lecter Spectre, through her “Incubator Project” by Paideia org., of a multicultural Europe directed by Jews, as told by Spanish-American journalist Cesar Vidal in one his last editorials, while they want an ethnically pure Jewsih state in Palestine..
Why this could be so? Does not sound quite strident?
https://cesarvidal.com/la-voz/editorial/editorial-barbara-lerner-spectre-y-paideia-23-10-23

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 5 2023 15:15 utc | 34

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6
“UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundaries of Israel.”
“Yes, but here is the crux of the problem. Hamas and most Palestinians will never recognize any Israeli state. They want all the Israelis dead and buried.” … Israel has nothing to lose at this point.”
Exile’s problem and that of the rest of the world, is that UNR 181 is an aberration, an error of such magnitude that it can only end in destruction–likely of both Israelis and the “axis of Resistance” to Israel. Neither the British nor the UN had any right to give to the Zionists what was not theirs to give; thus the Resistance reaction to Israel. The Zionists are invaders and settler-colonialists and the only ‘right’ the Jews have in Palestine is their physical presence, the facts on the ground.
Once that truth is understood, then solutions can be found for the 2 million Jews, most of whom born in Palestine. Rabbit Michael Lerner advises that Jews prostate themselves before the Palestinians, beg forgiveness, and offer reparations. Then and only then can Israelis and Palestinians live together in one cooperative state.

Posted by: Tedder | Nov 5 2023 15:24 utc | 35

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6
“UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundaries of Israel.”
“Yes, but here is the crux of the problem. Hamas and most Palestinians will never recognize any Israeli state. They want all the Israelis dead and buried.” … Israel has nothing to lose at this point.”
Exile’s problem and that of the rest of the world, is that UNR 181 is an aberration, an error of such magnitude that it can only end in destruction–likely of both Israelis and the “axis of Resistance” to Israel. Neither the British nor the UN had any right to give to the Zionists what was not theirs to give; thus the Resistance reaction to Israel. The Zionists are invaders and settler-colonialists and the only ‘right’ the Jews have in Palestine is their physical presence, the facts on the ground.
Once that truth is understood, then solutions can be found for the 2 million Jews, most of whom born in Palestine. Rabbit Michael Lerner advises that Jews prostate themselves before the Palestinians, beg forgiveness, and offer reparations. Then and only then can Israelis and Palestinians live together in one cooperative state.

Posted by: Tedder | Nov 5 2023 15:24 utc | 36

Israel identifies as a Jewish State, not a Zionist regime. One of the purposes of Zionism is to create antisemitism – to make Jews feels unsafe in their country and encourage emigration to Israel. Many Jews support Israel for this very reason – it is looked upon as a safe haven for Jews in the event Nazis take over ‘the west’.
And now, Israel is certainly not a safe haven for Jews, as, through Israel’s barbarity, antisemitism justifiably skyrockets.
Zionism found in the dictionary under: hoisted on its own petard.

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 5 2023 15:33 utc | 37

Israel identifies as a Jewish State, not a Zionist regime. One of the purposes of Zionism is to create antisemitism – to make Jews feels unsafe in their country and encourage emigration to Israel. Many Jews support Israel for this very reason – it is looked upon as a safe haven for Jews in the event Nazis take over ‘the west’.
And now, Israel is certainly not a safe haven for Jews, as, through Israel’s barbarity, antisemitism justifiably skyrockets.
Zionism found in the dictionary under: hoisted on its own petard.

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 5 2023 15:33 utc | 38

Jose 4
It is interesting to watch the comments from people who live in anglo-saxon segregated societies. You guys do not realize that while your were enjoying communautarism at its maximum other societies have been mixing and the numbers of zealots (from all sects) much reduced. At the same time, small sects, including New Age ones, have proliferated, but their addicts surf easily from one group to another.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 15:37 utc | 39

Jose 4
It is interesting to watch the comments from people who live in anglo-saxon segregated societies. You guys do not realize that while your were enjoying communautarism at its maximum other societies have been mixing and the numbers of zealots (from all sects) much reduced. At the same time, small sects, including New Age ones, have proliferated, but their addicts surf easily from one group to another.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 15:37 utc | 40

Scott Ritter is the new/improved Trump.
Scott for POTUS!
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1720935774441357542?t=UYavzL3ssft4pkxmeuSPBw&s=19
They want the public to focus on Trump/Biden – Charlie Brown football.

Posted by: jared | Nov 5 2023 15:40 utc | 41

Scott Ritter is the new/improved Trump.
Scott for POTUS!
https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1720935774441357542?t=UYavzL3ssft4pkxmeuSPBw&s=19
They want the public to focus on Trump/Biden – Charlie Brown football.

Posted by: jared | Nov 5 2023 15:40 utc | 42

Largest ever pro-Palestine rally in U.S. history in Washington D.C. today.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 15:41 utc | 43

Largest ever pro-Palestine rally in U.S. history in Washington D.C. today.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 15:41 utc | 44

They want all the Israelis dead and buried.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 9
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The future doesn’t belong to the race supremacists. That’s the lie of supremacy. Eventually, the arrogance leads to a serious departure from reality. Tell yourself and your people that you’re better than everyone else (America also suffers from this toxic delusion) and you start to believe it, leading to fatal errors (see Hitler attacking Russia, and America in the Middle East).
There are Jews living in every Arab country. That has been the norm for over 1,000 years. The people that the Palestinians want to kill are Zionists. Disbelievers who have left the straight path.
According to scripture, Islamic and Judaic, the Muslims are meant to shelter and protect the Jews. They are all “people of the book”. Christians too.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 15:42 utc | 45

They want all the Israelis dead and buried.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 9
###############
The future doesn’t belong to the race supremacists. That’s the lie of supremacy. Eventually, the arrogance leads to a serious departure from reality. Tell yourself and your people that you’re better than everyone else (America also suffers from this toxic delusion) and you start to believe it, leading to fatal errors (see Hitler attacking Russia, and America in the Middle East).
There are Jews living in every Arab country. That has been the norm for over 1,000 years. The people that the Palestinians want to kill are Zionists. Disbelievers who have left the straight path.
According to scripture, Islamic and Judaic, the Muslims are meant to shelter and protect the Jews. They are all “people of the book”. Christians too.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 15:42 utc | 46

to b:
Could you please monitor the blatant racism and genocidal ravings in this thread?

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 47

to b:
Could you please monitor the blatant racism and genocidal ravings in this thread?

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 48

It’s a reflection of the depth of racism in capitalist society- which is more or less founded on racial imperialism- that its trolls, Jose being one of the more obnoxious, among many, cannot look at a crowd including a few brown skins, black faces or east Asian features without throwing up their hands- leaving their pearls unguarded- and howling of the coming of the end of everything. And Calamity!!
There must be corners of Mississippi where old folk can recall the feeling but most of the world, which is very happy to see the dissolving of the hatred and fear, and the violence and injustice that racism breeds, just notes that Zionism’s friends are an odd lot.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2023 15:51 utc | 49

It’s a reflection of the depth of racism in capitalist society- which is more or less founded on racial imperialism- that its trolls, Jose being one of the more obnoxious, among many, cannot look at a crowd including a few brown skins, black faces or east Asian features without throwing up their hands- leaving their pearls unguarded- and howling of the coming of the end of everything. And Calamity!!
There must be corners of Mississippi where old folk can recall the feeling but most of the world, which is very happy to see the dissolving of the hatred and fear, and the violence and injustice that racism breeds, just notes that Zionism’s friends are an odd lot.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2023 15:51 utc | 50

If Putin Had Followed Israel’s Zionist War Crimes Policy – Ukraine War Would Be Over In Months – Not Years.!

Posted by: JohnF | Nov 5 2023 15:53 utc | 51

If Putin Had Followed Israel’s Zionist War Crimes Policy – Ukraine War Would Be Over In Months – Not Years.!

Posted by: JohnF | Nov 5 2023 15:53 utc | 52

15:40 Islamic Resistance reports a successful strike using guided missiles on an Israeli military vehicle located at the Bayad Blida site, resulting in casualties among its crew, including fatalities and injuries

I wonder what they’re referring to as “guided missiles” here? Konkurs?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 15:56 utc | 53

15:40 Islamic Resistance reports a successful strike using guided missiles on an Israeli military vehicle located at the Bayad Blida site, resulting in casualties among its crew, including fatalities and injuries

I wonder what they’re referring to as “guided missiles” here? Konkurs?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 15:56 utc | 54

Karlof “We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance.”
And indeed all the humanitarian staff currently in Gaza and around, UN or not, are not going to stay silent when the guns are down.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:01 utc | 55

Karlof “We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance.”
And indeed all the humanitarian staff currently in Gaza and around, UN or not, are not going to stay silent when the guns are down.

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:01 utc | 56

One of the hottest days on the northern front in October 7:

On November 5, Hezbollah launched another series of attacks against the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) from southern Lebanon.
The group said in three separate statements that its fighters had attacked the military sites of Jal al-Deir, Misgav Am, Al-Dhahra as well as the Avivim barracks with artillery shells, rockets, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) and other heavy weapons.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 16:02 utc | 57

One of the hottest days on the northern front in October 7:

On November 5, Hezbollah launched another series of attacks against the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) from southern Lebanon.
The group said in three separate statements that its fighters had attacked the military sites of Jal al-Deir, Misgav Am, Al-Dhahra as well as the Avivim barracks with artillery shells, rockets, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) and other heavy weapons.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 16:02 utc | 58

Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline:
“Nuking Gaza is a Possibility – Israeli minister: Amichai Eliyahu’s remarks have sparked widespread condemnation in Israel and Palestine alike.”
The ultimate Zionist intent is now known globally as there’s no hiding that, except perhaps by BigLie Media within the Outlaw US Empire, although its efforts haven’t kept massive demonstrations from happening there and elsewhere. Look at Turkey! Look at Occupied Palestine too. IMO, there’s greater global rath than what was displayed prior to the Outlaw US Empire’s rape of Iraq in 2003.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 16:05 utc | 59

Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline:
“Nuking Gaza is a Possibility – Israeli minister: Amichai Eliyahu’s remarks have sparked widespread condemnation in Israel and Palestine alike.”
The ultimate Zionist intent is now known globally as there’s no hiding that, except perhaps by BigLie Media within the Outlaw US Empire, although its efforts haven’t kept massive demonstrations from happening there and elsewhere. Look at Turkey! Look at Occupied Palestine too. IMO, there’s greater global rath than what was displayed prior to the Outlaw US Empire’s rape of Iraq in 2003.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 16:05 utc | 60

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15
“What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?”
Well, that’s a pretty easy one. Human capital, and technology in all its various forms. More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation. Lots of medical, agricultural and water desalination tech. Google “Start Up Nation” and you just might be shocked. Chances are excellent that a lot of the tech you personally use on a daily basis was developed in part or in whole in Israel. And yes, much better hummus and cuisine in general. Now with regards to “Palestine”, other than date farming and some local fishing, they mainly produce fledgling missile and suicide vest technology. So they don’t really offer anyone, anything of real value.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 61

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15
“What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?”
Well, that’s a pretty easy one. Human capital, and technology in all its various forms. More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation. Lots of medical, agricultural and water desalination tech. Google “Start Up Nation” and you just might be shocked. Chances are excellent that a lot of the tech you personally use on a daily basis was developed in part or in whole in Israel. And yes, much better hummus and cuisine in general. Now with regards to “Palestine”, other than date farming and some local fishing, they mainly produce fledgling missile and suicide vest technology. So they don’t really offer anyone, anything of real value.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 62

Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas
ahahahahahaha

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 63

Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas
ahahahahahaha

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 64

Netanyahu’s regime would have collapsed by the 13th had America not sent her “fist” to the Mediterranean to cram that mofo right back down their throats. How’s that “democracy” workin out for ya? Kinda sad when not even the lies they sell you have any effort put into them, eh?

Posted by: liveload | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 65

Netanyahu’s regime would have collapsed by the 13th had America not sent her “fist” to the Mediterranean to cram that mofo right back down their throats. How’s that “democracy” workin out for ya? Kinda sad when not even the lies they sell you have any effort put into them, eh?

Posted by: liveload | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 66

to b:
Could you please monitor the blatant racism and genocidal ravings in this thread?
Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 25
Racist and genocidal ravings are unpleasant but in my short time here I think the readers are smart enough to ignore it or give as good as they get.
I am a refugee here from another “independent media” site that was OK about three years ago but in the last two weeks has been completely taken over by Hasbara. A year or two ago, they really started censoring comments which would disappear into comment detention and you never knew if it would come out alive. They are now fiddling with the up and down votes too as if the readers are that stupid. The comments were the most interesting part and from what I can readership seems to have already fallen.
Imho, I think it’s one of the reasons that many MSM sites with active comment sections like the FT became so irrelevant after they clamped down.

Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 67

to b:
Could you please monitor the blatant racism and genocidal ravings in this thread?
Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 25
Racist and genocidal ravings are unpleasant but in my short time here I think the readers are smart enough to ignore it or give as good as they get.
I am a refugee here from another “independent media” site that was OK about three years ago but in the last two weeks has been completely taken over by Hasbara. A year or two ago, they really started censoring comments which would disappear into comment detention and you never knew if it would come out alive. They are now fiddling with the up and down votes too as if the readers are that stupid. The comments were the most interesting part and from what I can readership seems to have already fallen.
Imho, I think it’s one of the reasons that many MSM sites with active comment sections like the FT became so irrelevant after they clamped down.

Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 68

P Giraldi today including ref to the murky nature of Oct 7:
“Sharon was queried about how the rest of the world might respond to Israel using its nukes to effectively wipe out its Arab neighbors, he responded “That depends on who does it and how quickly it happens. We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-gaza-genocide-continues/

Posted by: botete | Nov 5 2023 16:22 utc | 69

P Giraldi today including ref to the murky nature of Oct 7:
“Sharon was queried about how the rest of the world might respond to Israel using its nukes to effectively wipe out its Arab neighbors, he responded “That depends on who does it and how quickly it happens. We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-gaza-genocide-continues/

Posted by: botete | Nov 5 2023 16:22 utc | 70

A comparison.
Judging from the epic discussions, quality footage, songs that have been sung… The displacement of people because of brown coal mining in Germany was a much more dramatic issue than what happens these days in Gaza.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dokumentation+braunkohle+wdr
One can argue, the trees, which were planned to be chopped off, had a mightier lobby than the Palestinians.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=hambacher+forst
Note 1: People, who had to move, weren’t at risk of dying by “explosions”.
Note 2: They were moved to villages built for them, more modern houses, lots of time for planning. No hurry, no refugee camps.
Note 3: But the forest had to leave.

Posted by: Elkerwehpfahrer | Nov 5 2023 16:23 utc | 71

A comparison.
Judging from the epic discussions, quality footage, songs that have been sung… The displacement of people because of brown coal mining in Germany was a much more dramatic issue than what happens these days in Gaza.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dokumentation+braunkohle+wdr
One can argue, the trees, which were planned to be chopped off, had a mightier lobby than the Palestinians.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=hambacher+forst
Note 1: People, who had to move, weren’t at risk of dying by “explosions”.
Note 2: They were moved to villages built for them, more modern houses, lots of time for planning. No hurry, no refugee camps.
Note 3: But the forest had to leave.

Posted by: Elkerwehpfahrer | Nov 5 2023 16:23 utc | 72

More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 32
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Is that all Jews, or Israeli Jews specifically? And how many of them were psychopathic race supremacists?
I keep hearing this, and then I remember that Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 73

More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 32
#####################
Is that all Jews, or Israeli Jews specifically? And how many of them were psychopathic race supremacists?
I keep hearing this, and then I remember that Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 74

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15
“What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?”
Well, that’s a pretty easy one.
Posted by: Jose J.
It is indeed Jose!! I think Hasbara would be at the top of the list. The ability of Hasbara to flip the narrative on terrorism is unparalleled in the world.
(I daresay Israelis are not responsible for f** hummus ….Golda Meir was apparently famous for gefilte fisch, matzo balls and chicken soup….)

Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:25 utc | 75

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15
“What does Israel produce other than shitty weaponry and genocidal hatred anyway? Fucking hummus?”
Well, that’s a pretty easy one.
Posted by: Jose J.
It is indeed Jose!! I think Hasbara would be at the top of the list. The ability of Hasbara to flip the narrative on terrorism is unparalleled in the world.
(I daresay Israelis are not responsible for f** hummus ….Golda Meir was apparently famous for gefilte fisch, matzo balls and chicken soup….)

Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:25 utc | 76

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8
Unfortunately not.
In most of Europe, Israel is depicted as the sole and great democracy in the ME. In the mainstream, if you dare to say that the right wings of the government are sort of fascist, that they shure are, you will be ‘crucified’ immidiately.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 5 2023 16:28 utc | 77

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8
Unfortunately not.
In most of Europe, Israel is depicted as the sole and great democracy in the ME. In the mainstream, if you dare to say that the right wings of the government are sort of fascist, that they shure are, you will be ‘crucified’ immidiately.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 5 2023 16:28 utc | 78

This is entertaining.
“Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing US troops in Turkey”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-blinken-latest-b2441960.html#post-1396253
There’s going to be more of this; the Americans will be shooting down the demonstrators soon. It’s why Erdogan made such a strong speech the other day; politically he can’t do less.
Still they don’t tell us which airbase. I presume it’s Incirlik, near to Adana, where the US nuclear weapons are stored.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 5 2023 16:31 utc | 79

This is entertaining.
“Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing US troops in Turkey”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-blinken-latest-b2441960.html#post-1396253
There’s going to be more of this; the Americans will be shooting down the demonstrators soon. It’s why Erdogan made such a strong speech the other day; politically he can’t do less.
Still they don’t tell us which airbase. I presume it’s Incirlik, near to Adana, where the US nuclear weapons are stored.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 5 2023 16:31 utc | 80

…..Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas
Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 33…….
Short and powerful essay – worth reading

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 16:32 utc | 81

…..Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas
Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 33…….
Short and powerful essay – worth reading

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 16:32 utc | 82

17:40 U.S. forces shot down another one-way attack drone Sunday that was targeting American and coalition troops near their base in Tel Baider, Syria, a U.S. official said on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the strike.
There was no information immediately available on the origin of the attack drone, but it marked at least the 32nd attack on U.S. and coalition military facilities in Iraq and Syria since Oct. 17. To date there have been at least 17 attacks in Iraq and 15 in Syria. At least 21 service members have been injured by the attacks but all have returned to duty, the Pentagon said.
al Ahram live

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:33 utc | 83

17:40 U.S. forces shot down another one-way attack drone Sunday that was targeting American and coalition troops near their base in Tel Baider, Syria, a U.S. official said on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the strike.
There was no information immediately available on the origin of the attack drone, but it marked at least the 32nd attack on U.S. and coalition military facilities in Iraq and Syria since Oct. 17. To date there have been at least 17 attacks in Iraq and 15 in Syria. At least 21 service members have been injured by the attacks but all have returned to duty, the Pentagon said.
al Ahram live

Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:33 utc | 84

Craig Mokhiber on UN’s failures in Palestine and why he quit

Senior UN Human Rights official Craig Mokhiber recently resigned over the organization’s failure to address the brutal genocide in Gaza and Israel’s apartheid policies against Palestinians.
In this interview with Vijay Prashad, he talks about how the UN failed the people of Palestine over the decades and how the UN moved away from the principled norms-based approach rooted in international law when it came to the question of Palestine.
Mokhiber explains the role played by countries such as the United States in this shift. He also says that hope lies in the massive demonstrations that are taking place across the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine and against the Israeli genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvm0HYvPJu4
Craig Mokhiber’s Resignation Letter

Dear High Commissioner, This will be my last official communication to you as Director of the New York Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.
I write at a moment of great anguish for the world … we are seeing a genocide unfolding before our eyes, and the Organization that we serve appears powerless to stop it.

High Commissioner, we are failing again.
… I know well that the concept of genocide has often been subject to political abuse. But the current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist settler colonial ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs, and coupled with explicit statements of intent by leaders in the Israeli government and military, leaves no room for doubt or debate. In Gaza, civilian homes, schools, churches, mosques, and medical institutions are wantonly attacked as thousands of civilians are massacred.

This is a text-book case of genocide. The European, ethno-nationalist, settler colonial project in Palestine has entered its final phase, toward the expedited destruction of the last remnants of indigenous Palestinian life in Palestine. What’s more, the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, and much of Europe, are wholly complicit in the horrific assault. …[more]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 5 2023 16:36 utc | 85

Craig Mokhiber on UN’s failures in Palestine and why he quit

Senior UN Human Rights official Craig Mokhiber recently resigned over the organization’s failure to address the brutal genocide in Gaza and Israel’s apartheid policies against Palestinians.
In this interview with Vijay Prashad, he talks about how the UN failed the people of Palestine over the decades and how the UN moved away from the principled norms-based approach rooted in international law when it came to the question of Palestine.
Mokhiber explains the role played by countries such as the United States in this shift. He also says that hope lies in the massive demonstrations that are taking place across the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine and against the Israeli genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvm0HYvPJu4
Craig Mokhiber’s Resignation Letter

Dear High Commissioner, This will be my last official communication to you as Director of the New York Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.
I write at a moment of great anguish for the world … we are seeing a genocide unfolding before our eyes, and the Organization that we serve appears powerless to stop it.

High Commissioner, we are failing again.
… I know well that the concept of genocide has often been subject to political abuse. But the current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist settler colonial ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs, and coupled with explicit statements of intent by leaders in the Israeli government and military, leaves no room for doubt or debate. In Gaza, civilian homes, schools, churches, mosques, and medical institutions are wantonly attacked as thousands of civilians are massacred.

This is a text-book case of genocide. The European, ethno-nationalist, settler colonial project in Palestine has entered its final phase, toward the expedited destruction of the last remnants of indigenous Palestinian life in Palestine. What’s more, the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, and much of Europe, are wholly complicit in the horrific assault. …[more]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 5 2023 16:36 utc | 86

Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline:
“Nuking Gaza is a Possibility – Israeli minister: Amichai Eliyahu’s remarks have sparked widespread condemnation in Israel and Palestine alike.”
The ultimate Zionist intent is now known globally as there’s no hiding that, except perhaps by BigLie Media within the Outlaw US Empire, although its efforts haven’t kept massive demonstrations from happening there and elsewhere. Look at Turkey! Look at Occupied Palestine too. IMO, there’s greater global rath than what was displayed prior to the Outlaw US Empire’s rape of Iraq in 2003.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 16:05 utc | 31
I had posted from another source but wrong thread (maybe you like the link)
Already thrown out of government, but very nice… 😀
https://bdsmovement.net/news/israeli-minister-threatens-nuke-gaza
Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 13:06 utc | 1

Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 16:40 utc | 87

Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline:
“Nuking Gaza is a Possibility – Israeli minister: Amichai Eliyahu’s remarks have sparked widespread condemnation in Israel and Palestine alike.”
The ultimate Zionist intent is now known globally as there’s no hiding that, except perhaps by BigLie Media within the Outlaw US Empire, although its efforts haven’t kept massive demonstrations from happening there and elsewhere. Look at Turkey! Look at Occupied Palestine too. IMO, there’s greater global rath than what was displayed prior to the Outlaw US Empire’s rape of Iraq in 2003.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 16:05 utc | 31
I had posted from another source but wrong thread (maybe you like the link)
Already thrown out of government, but very nice… 😀
https://bdsmovement.net/news/israeli-minister-threatens-nuke-gaza
Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 13:06 utc | 1

Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 16:40 utc | 88

Thanks Bevin,
That is the truth!
The US has always been a racist country from its very beginning. Jose is fine example. I suspect he is military by the terms he uses. Our wonderful military teaches hate terms to make it easier to kill. It tries to teach us to use them as well, we usually only see it in supper right wing bigots. The latest version is the hoards at the boarder. These people have No clue why hoards are coming to the boarder! No clue that our constant disruption of countries for 100s of years has driven the poor to our boarders in hopes of a better life. Europe get this as well without ever connecting the dots of Nato US destruction driving the hoards. They now take the jobs we had as kids mowing lawns, cleaning houses, picking apple, day labor. These racists just blame it on brown people and who ever is in office for not mowing them down. Rather then looking at the history of terrorism perpetrated on their countries by ours.

Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:43 utc | 89

Thanks Bevin,
That is the truth!
The US has always been a racist country from its very beginning. Jose is fine example. I suspect he is military by the terms he uses. Our wonderful military teaches hate terms to make it easier to kill. It tries to teach us to use them as well, we usually only see it in supper right wing bigots. The latest version is the hoards at the boarder. These people have No clue why hoards are coming to the boarder! No clue that our constant disruption of countries for 100s of years has driven the poor to our boarders in hopes of a better life. Europe get this as well without ever connecting the dots of Nato US destruction driving the hoards. They now take the jobs we had as kids mowing lawns, cleaning houses, picking apple, day labor. These racists just blame it on brown people and who ever is in office for not mowing them down. Rather then looking at the history of terrorism perpetrated on their countries by ours.

Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:43 utc | 90

Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 38
comedy gold
We tortured some folks
We accept a system with considerable inequality because systems without any inequality profit LOL! or arbitrage don’t work.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 91

Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 38
comedy gold
We tortured some folks
We accept a system with considerable inequality because systems without any inequality profit LOL! or arbitrage don’t work.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 92

Its amazing how much better the pictures are from satellites orbiting Israel than the pictures we get to see from satellites orbiting Ukraine.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 93

Its amazing how much better the pictures are from satellites orbiting Israel than the pictures we get to see from satellites orbiting Ukraine.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 94

Amazing how often the Nobel Prizes are mentioned to justify the genocide. But our boy here is no genius. If we are talking about the State of Israel, the country has won 13 Nobel Prizes. The UK has 117. Genius level argumentation.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 16:51 utc | 95

Amazing how often the Nobel Prizes are mentioned to justify the genocide. But our boy here is no genius. If we are talking about the State of Israel, the country has won 13 Nobel Prizes. The UK has 117. Genius level argumentation.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 16:51 utc | 96

We have a park with markers for each peace prize winner. Well more than half are war criminals! Most of the Nobel prizes are nothing more then political pats on the back rather then true quality

Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:53 utc | 97

We have a park with markers for each peace prize winner. Well more than half are war criminals! Most of the Nobel prizes are nothing more then political pats on the back rather then true quality

Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:53 utc | 98

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 10
I think you will find blood doesnt wash off easily. Your state is pathetic and murderous.
“Out damned spot.” Lady Macbeth Act 5, scene 1.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 5 2023 16:56 utc | 99

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 10
I think you will find blood doesnt wash off easily. Your state is pathetic and murderous.
“Out damned spot.” Lady Macbeth Act 5, scene 1.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 5 2023 16:56 utc | 100