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November 5, 2023
Palestine Open Thread 2023-262
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Zionism is showing it’s true face to the world. Posted by: librul | Nov 5 2023 14:11 utc | 1 Zionism is showing it’s true face to the world. Posted by: librul | Nov 5 2023 14:11 utc | 2 Re: Post War Rebuilding Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:12 utc | 3 Re: Post War Rebuilding Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:12 utc | 4 Got up, surfing Slavyangrad. Just amazed at all the vids of isr occ forces entering various West Bank cities and killing people as Blinken was getting ready to go to Ramallah. iirc yesterday iOf actually sent tanks into Ramallah. Blinken meeting lasted possibly less than an hour. Went to IndianPunchline, new post, not bad, but nothing about Abbas and Ramallah. Saw the new 10 km range fired from back of truck in action for 1rst time for Hezbollah. pm of israel is still enamoured on entering Gaza. Gonna heat up. Posted by: paxmark1 | Nov 5 2023 14:24 utc | 5 Got up, surfing Slavyangrad. Just amazed at all the vids of isr occ forces entering various West Bank cities and killing people as Blinken was getting ready to go to Ramallah. iirc yesterday iOf actually sent tanks into Ramallah. Blinken meeting lasted possibly less than an hour. Went to IndianPunchline, new post, not bad, but nothing about Abbas and Ramallah. Saw the new 10 km range fired from back of truck in action for 1rst time for Hezbollah. pm of israel is still enamoured on entering Gaza. Gonna heat up. Posted by: paxmark1 | Nov 5 2023 14:24 utc | 6 There sure are a lot of big brain thinkers here, stroking themselves silly, about the imminent demise of the “Zionist Entity”. Judging by the unfolding scenes in Western capitals, the West has a greater long term jihad problem than Israel does. Diversity is so awesome, right? The deabcle of October 7 aside, Israel can defend its borders and culture, while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired. Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 7 There sure are a lot of big brain thinkers here, stroking themselves silly, about the imminent demise of the “Zionist Entity”. Judging by the unfolding scenes in Western capitals, the West has a greater long term jihad problem than Israel does. Diversity is so awesome, right? The deabcle of October 7 aside, Israel can defend its borders and culture, while the cuckolded West has already been overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired. Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 8 overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 9 overrun by uncivilized sand people without a shot being fired. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 10 UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundries of Israel. Likud failed Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 11 UNR 181 defines the borders of the Jewish State. These are the only internationally recognized boundries of Israel. Likud failed Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 12 New interview with former Canadian Armed Forces member, Mike Mihajlovic. He’s interviewed by Real Truth Talk (I’m not sure who that is, haven’t watched yet). Given how useful I’ve found his Tweets to be, I expect the 1 hour interview may be even more useful. Although I’ve yet to listen to it. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 5 2023 14:34 utc | 13 New interview with former Canadian Armed Forces member, Mike Mihajlovic. He’s interviewed by Real Truth Talk (I’m not sure who that is, haven’t watched yet). Given how useful I’ve found his Tweets to be, I expect the 1 hour interview may be even more useful. Although I’ve yet to listen to it. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 5 2023 14:34 utc | 14 Global Times article relates Chinese and international angst, “Israel’s blunt rejection of US call for pause reflects failed US strategy, as anger fuels with Washington’s excessive leniency”:
Martyanov in this video presentation reports on a graphic that was supplied by a US Senator about the huge disparity in civilian deaths between Gaza and Ukraine, which means the Outlaw US Empire cannot call out Russia without also calling out the Zionists–AND–that vast disparity will also be seen by RoW as genocidal war crime by Zionists. That all takes place in the first 10 minutes of the video and is damning.
Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do. I wonder how many honest sermons will be rendered in Christian churches globally today condemning what’s happening in Gaza and those responsible for as was said at the UNSC, the occupying power has no “right to self-defense.” Global Times article relates Chinese and international angst, “Israel’s blunt rejection of US call for pause reflects failed US strategy, as anger fuels with Washington’s excessive leniency”:
Martyanov in this video presentation reports on a graphic that was supplied by a US Senator about the huge disparity in civilian deaths between Gaza and Ukraine, which means the Outlaw US Empire cannot call out Russia without also calling out the Zionists–AND–that vast disparity will also be seen by RoW as genocidal war crime by Zionists. That all takes place in the first 10 minutes of the video and is damning.
Global Zionists are being seen by the Global Majority as today’s Nazis as they cannot hide their Genocidal intent as the puke @4 above tries to do. I wonder how many honest sermons will be rendered in Christian churches globally today condemning what’s happening in Gaza and those responsible for as was said at the UNSC, the occupying power has no “right to self-defense.” Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 17 Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:56 utc | 18
IDF isn’t an army, it’s a bedwetters club of cowards and murderers. Israel has, through her unjustifiable mass murder of innocents, forever branded her and her citizens in history as Nazi Germany 2.0. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 19
IDF isn’t an army, it’s a bedwetters club of cowards and murderers. Israel has, through her unjustifiable mass murder of innocents, forever branded her and her citizens in history as Nazi Germany 2.0. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 14:57 utc | 20
You will find it harder to kill 2 million people than you breezily suggest. Cowards like you make me sick. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:02 utc | 21
You will find it harder to kill 2 million people than you breezily suggest. Cowards like you make me sick. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:02 utc | 22 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 15:06 utc | 23 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 15:06 utc | 24 Israel is compounding its real problem, which is demographics..The 7 million jews in Israel aren’t having enough kids(apart from the Ultra-Orthodox) and that’s largely true of jews worldwide..They are being outbred by the 2 million non-jews in Israel, and the whole Arab world (Egypt now at 110 million)..Yet they are constantly provoking violence, and taking casualties as a result, and convincing young jews to stay away from the place..I know some who have left Israel to live in the US…It really is a suicidal path…. Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 5 2023 15:07 utc | 25 Israel is compounding its real problem, which is demographics..The 7 million jews in Israel aren’t having enough kids(apart from the Ultra-Orthodox) and that’s largely true of jews worldwide..They are being outbred by the 2 million non-jews in Israel, and the whole Arab world (Egypt now at 110 million)..Yet they are constantly provoking violence, and taking casualties as a result, and convincing young jews to stay away from the place..I know some who have left Israel to live in the US…It really is a suicidal path…. Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 5 2023 15:07 utc | 26 Re: Oct 7th orgy of violence Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 15:09 utc | 27 Re: Oct 7th orgy of violence Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 15:09 utc | 28
Through their use of espionage and their widespread media influence, zionist scumbags indeed have been able to hoodwink the Western public for many years. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 29
Through their use of espionage and their widespread media influence, zionist scumbags indeed have been able to hoodwink the Western public for many years. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 30 Another excellent op/ed from Global Timestells it as it is. I’m very tempted to reproduce it all but will limit the excerpts to this while urging barflies to read the whole item:
The author uses the term “cowardice” which is only partially correct since the Zionist project was also that of the West’s Imperialist project that is now in full retreat. The Zionists have announced their goal of Genocide which the West is too cowardly to challenge and that’s leading to an reality that will be very difficult to alter–Palestinian and Arab acceptance of the Zionist entity and the greater world’s acceptance of Zionist Genocide. We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance. There is absolutely no room on the planet for people like the Zionists and their abettors, and that’s a Truth some are unwilling to admit/accept primarily because they’re Zionists. Another excellent op/ed from Global Timestells it as it is. I’m very tempted to reproduce it all but will limit the excerpts to this while urging barflies to read the whole item:
The author uses the term “cowardice” which is only partially correct since the Zionist project was also that of the West’s Imperialist project that is now in full retreat. The Zionists have announced their goal of Genocide which the West is too cowardly to challenge and that’s leading to an reality that will be very difficult to alter–Palestinian and Arab acceptance of the Zionist entity and the greater world’s acceptance of Zionist Genocide. We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance. There is absolutely no room on the planet for people like the Zionists and their abettors, and that’s a Truth some are unwilling to admit/accept primarily because they’re Zionists. @Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 5 2023 15:15 utc | 33 @Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 14:27 utc | 4 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 5 2023 15:15 utc | 34 Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6 Posted by: Tedder | Nov 5 2023 15:24 utc | 35 Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 14:32 utc | 6 Posted by: Tedder | Nov 5 2023 15:24 utc | 36 Israel identifies as a Jewish State, not a Zionist regime. One of the purposes of Zionism is to create antisemitism – to make Jews feels unsafe in their country and encourage emigration to Israel. Many Jews support Israel for this very reason – it is looked upon as a safe haven for Jews in the event Nazis take over ‘the west’. Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 5 2023 15:33 utc | 37 Israel identifies as a Jewish State, not a Zionist regime. One of the purposes of Zionism is to create antisemitism – to make Jews feels unsafe in their country and encourage emigration to Israel. Many Jews support Israel for this very reason – it is looked upon as a safe haven for Jews in the event Nazis take over ‘the west’. Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 5 2023 15:33 utc | 38 Jose 4 Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 15:37 utc | 39 Jose 4 Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 15:37 utc | 40 Scott Ritter is the new/improved Trump. Posted by: jared | Nov 5 2023 15:40 utc | 41 Scott Ritter is the new/improved Trump. Posted by: jared | Nov 5 2023 15:40 utc | 42 Largest ever pro-Palestine rally in U.S. history in Washington D.C. today. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 15:41 utc | 43 Largest ever pro-Palestine rally in U.S. history in Washington D.C. today. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 15:41 utc | 44 They want all the Israelis dead and buried. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 15:42 utc | 45 They want all the Israelis dead and buried. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 15:42 utc | 46 to b: Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 47 to b: Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 5 2023 15:46 utc | 48 It’s a reflection of the depth of racism in capitalist society- which is more or less founded on racial imperialism- that its trolls, Jose being one of the more obnoxious, among many, cannot look at a crowd including a few brown skins, black faces or east Asian features without throwing up their hands- leaving their pearls unguarded- and howling of the coming of the end of everything. And Calamity!! Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2023 15:51 utc | 49 It’s a reflection of the depth of racism in capitalist society- which is more or less founded on racial imperialism- that its trolls, Jose being one of the more obnoxious, among many, cannot look at a crowd including a few brown skins, black faces or east Asian features without throwing up their hands- leaving their pearls unguarded- and howling of the coming of the end of everything. And Calamity!! Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2023 15:51 utc | 50 If Putin Had Followed Israel’s Zionist War Crimes Policy – Ukraine War Would Be Over In Months – Not Years.! Posted by: JohnF | Nov 5 2023 15:53 utc | 51 If Putin Had Followed Israel’s Zionist War Crimes Policy – Ukraine War Would Be Over In Months – Not Years.! Posted by: JohnF | Nov 5 2023 15:53 utc | 52
I wonder what they’re referring to as “guided missiles” here? Konkurs? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 15:56 utc | 53
I wonder what they’re referring to as “guided missiles” here? Konkurs? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 15:56 utc | 54 Karlof “We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance.” Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:01 utc | 55 Karlof “We’re not talking just hatred here; this is a case of justice that must be rendered for Humanity to advance.” Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:01 utc | 56 One of the hottest days on the northern front in October 7:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 16:02 utc | 57 One of the hottest days on the northern front in October 7:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 5 2023 16:02 utc | 58 Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline: Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline: Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 61 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15 Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 62 Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 63 Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:12 utc | 64 Netanyahu’s regime would have collapsed by the 13th had America not sent her “fist” to the Mediterranean to cram that mofo right back down their throats. How’s that “democracy” workin out for ya? Kinda sad when not even the lies they sell you have any effort put into them, eh? Posted by: liveload | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 65 Netanyahu’s regime would have collapsed by the 13th had America not sent her “fist” to the Mediterranean to cram that mofo right back down their throats. How’s that “democracy” workin out for ya? Kinda sad when not even the lies they sell you have any effort put into them, eh? Posted by: liveload | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 66 to b: Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 67 to b: Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:18 utc | 68 P Giraldi today including ref to the murky nature of Oct 7: Posted by: botete | Nov 5 2023 16:22 utc | 69 P Giraldi today including ref to the murky nature of Oct 7: Posted by: botete | Nov 5 2023 16:22 utc | 70 A comparison. Posted by: Elkerwehpfahrer | Nov 5 2023 16:23 utc | 71 A comparison. Posted by: Elkerwehpfahrer | Nov 5 2023 16:23 utc | 72 More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 73 More Nobel Prize winners per capita than any other nation. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 5 2023 16:24 utc | 74 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15 Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:25 utc | 75 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 5 2023 15:12 utc | 15 Posted by: pq | Nov 5 2023 16:25 utc | 76 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Mario | Nov 5 2023 16:28 utc | 77 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 5 2023 14:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Mario | Nov 5 2023 16:28 utc | 78 This is entertaining. Posted by: laguerre | Nov 5 2023 16:31 utc | 79 This is entertaining. Posted by: laguerre | Nov 5 2023 16:31 utc | 80 …..Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 16:32 utc | 81 …..Sputnik, Scott Ritter Explains Why Israel is Losing Opportunity to Beat Hamas Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2023 16:32 utc | 82 17:40 U.S. forces shot down another one-way attack drone Sunday that was targeting American and coalition troops near their base in Tel Baider, Syria, a U.S. official said on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the strike. Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:33 utc | 83 17:40 U.S. forces shot down another one-way attack drone Sunday that was targeting American and coalition troops near their base in Tel Baider, Syria, a U.S. official said on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the strike. Posted by: Minaa | Nov 5 2023 16:33 utc | 84 Craig Mokhiber on UN’s failures in Palestine and why he quit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvm0HYvPJu4
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 5 2023 16:36 utc | 85 Craig Mokhiber on UN’s failures in Palestine and why he quit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvm0HYvPJu4
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24103463-craig-mokhiber-resignation-letter Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 5 2023 16:36 utc | 86 Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline: Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 16:40 utc | 87 Another very gruesome admission from the Zionists portrayed in this RT headline: Posted by: newbie | Nov 5 2023 16:40 utc | 88 Thanks Bevin, Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:43 utc | 89 Thanks Bevin, Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:43 utc | 90 Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 91 Obama and Paul Krugman won Nobels. LOL Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 92 Its amazing how much better the pictures are from satellites orbiting Israel than the pictures we get to see from satellites orbiting Ukraine. Posted by: too scents | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 93 Its amazing how much better the pictures are from satellites orbiting Israel than the pictures we get to see from satellites orbiting Ukraine. Posted by: too scents | Nov 5 2023 16:47 utc | 94 Amazing how often the Nobel Prizes are mentioned to justify the genocide. But our boy here is no genius. If we are talking about the State of Israel, the country has won 13 Nobel Prizes. The UK has 117. Genius level argumentation. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 16:51 utc | 95 Amazing how often the Nobel Prizes are mentioned to justify the genocide. But our boy here is no genius. If we are talking about the State of Israel, the country has won 13 Nobel Prizes. The UK has 117. Genius level argumentation. Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 5 2023 16:51 utc | 96 We have a park with markers for each peace prize winner. Well more than half are war criminals! Most of the Nobel prizes are nothing more then political pats on the back rather then true quality Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:53 utc | 97 We have a park with markers for each peace prize winner. Well more than half are war criminals! Most of the Nobel prizes are nothing more then political pats on the back rather then true quality Posted by: Susan | Nov 5 2023 16:53 utc | 98 |
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