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November 30, 2023
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2023-289

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EU increases imports of nuclear fuel from Russia in 2023
https://nitter.net/GeromanAT/status/1730884558315282631#m
@GeromanAT
3h
EU increases imports of nuclear fuel from Russia in 2023 – attempts to reduce dependence on Russian nuclear power have not been successful
The EU continues to increase imports of nuclear fuel from Russia and third-party services related to the operation of Russian-made reactors. In 2023, five EU states (Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Finland, Hungary, Slovakia) operating VVER reactors purchased 30 per cent more conversion services and 22 per cent more enrichment services from our country, Reuters reports, citing the Euratom Supply Agency (ESA).
Despite the fact that imports of nuclear technology and nuclear fuel directly are not subject to EU sanctions, the bloc still seeks to reduce its dependence on Moscow.
However, these attempts remain futile in the absence of alternatives. Nuclear power accounts for about 10 per cent of the energy used in the EU, with France meeting almost a third of its needs in this way.
Rosatom is still the world’s largest uranium enrichment company, powering nearly a quarter of the 92 US nuclear reactors and dozens of other power plants across Europe and Asia.
Other key corporations, such as Westinghouse and EDF, are unable to replace Russia in this field. The former has already gone through bankruptcy proceedings, and France’s EPR reactors have been deemed unsuccessful.

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 13:39 utc | 101

CLOWN WORLD U.S.A.
https://nitter.net/EMichaelJones1/status/1730702028559593563#m
E. Michael Jones
@EMichaelJones1
16h
Why is it hate speech to say that a rabbi owns PornHub?
The rabbi himself said it !
LOL

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 13:49 utc | 102

The CPI is reporting food inflation at only 3.3% year over year.
Does anyone seriously believe that? 🤡🌎
The US government has a group of statisticians whose only job is to figure out how to massage the data to make inflation appear lower than it really is.
They do this to lower cost of living increases for social security. By faking the inflation data, they reduce payments to seniors…
i dont know what the true inflation rate is, but to claim it is only 3% is absurd.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 2 2023 13:49 utc | 103

meant to address above comment to
Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 13:30 utc | 99

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 2 2023 13:50 utc | 104

U.S. ‘exceptionalism’s’ bloody & silly truth…
https://nitter.net/GeoffYoung4KY
Geoffrey M. Young
@GeoffYoung4KY
57m
At 4 min before the 2 hour mark, Sabby Sabs shows @RobertKennedyJr saying,
“Israel has done more to protect human life & has done more during the past 16 years to avoid this outcome…”
Too bad, he’s as evil a neocon as Biden, Trump & Haley (WAR CRIMINALS)
piped.video/watch?v=OObjvdpw…
@GeoffYoung4KY
12h
The entire “Democratic” Party structure is made of morons & savage warmongers.
The Repub Party is the opposite: Savage warmongers & morons.
@GeoffYoung4KY
17h
Seymour Hersh, the investigative reporter who was the most prominent exception to the fawning coverage of Kissinger…
“His social comings and goings could make or break a Washington party,” Hersh wrote in his biography of Kissinger, The Price of Power.
middleeasteye.net/opinion/mu…
The murderous legacy of Henry Kissinger
Kissinger’s amoral, genocidal crimes revealed him to be a faithful representative of the US elites whom he served all his life
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/murderous-legacy-henry-kissinger

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 14:07 utc | 105

Kissinger and the rise of Khmer Rouge !!!
(Genocide Joe just follows ‘old traditions…)
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/12/01/metro/henry-kissinger-cambodia-americans-bombing-khmer-rouge-lowell/
The bombing began as a covert operation against a neighboring state. It killed at least 50,000 civilians, but likely many, many more, and destabilized the country.
“That really laid the foundation for the Khmer Rouge genocide,” said Vesna Nuon, one of Lowell’s three Cambodian-American city councilors.
ALSO…
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/11/30/kissingers-bombing-campaign-likely-killed-hundreds-of-thousands-of-cambodians-and-set-the-path-for-the-ravages-of-the-khmer-rouge/

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 14:26 utc | 106

Here in Australia, the ABC still craps on about the umpteenth covid wave as if anybody even cares about it anymore. UK may well have data on pre covid respiratory deaths that could be compared yearly to yearly respiratory deaths since. The original strain and delta did bring much higher respiratory illness and death, but subsequent strains seem to have far less symptoms than the normal flue.

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1730736827160785226
The All-In Pod asks @TuckerCarlson
why he was fired by FOX News and what role corporate advertisers play in shaping news coverage?
Tucker highlights Big Pharma, constituting 75% of TV ads in 2020, then delves into COVID, lockdowns, mRNA shots, January 6th, and the War in Ukraine.
“It not only exists, it defines news coverage. Especially on pharma because pharma is the biggest advertiser on television. If Pfizer is sponsoring your show, you are not going to question the vax… And that’s why they are the biggest advertiser. So they can shape news coverage.”

Tucker explains that he was not surprised by his firing because it is implicitly understood within the industry that sharing opinions that conflict with corporate advertisers eventually gets you fired.
“I had a lot of opinions that were unpopular with people who might have influenced my show getting canceled… But I was not shocked at all. You can’t give the finger to everybody and persist in a corporate job.”
This aligns with Glenn Greenwald’s (@ggreenwald) recent analysis, shared by @elonmusk, illustrating how modern journalism, once a check on established power, is now controlled by corporate advertisers.
(https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1730100419253444898)
The ongoing corporate boycott of @X, ostensibly based on a false antisemitism claim, reflects this broader pattern.
Empirical data reveals platforms like TikTok and Instagram promote significantly more antisemitism than @X, yet corporate advertisers are only targeting this platform.
When @elonmusk defiantly tells this union of major corporate advertisers and establishment power to “go f**k yourself” for attempting to bankrupt his company, he’s pointing at the authoritarian illiberal forces attempting to control online speech through advertising dollars.
Elon Musk, Glenn Greenwald, and Tucker Carlson rightly point the finger at this dangerous alliance of corporate and government power, manipulating news and shaping social media platforms through advertising dollars.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 14:43 utc | 107

US and several vassals now reporting mysterious respiratory illness supposedly from China.
More anti China propaganda and likely a mild bio weapon. Would be interesting to see a map of the first cases in China and how close they are to a US consulate.
Mid 2024 is the expected first production date of the new mRNA plant throughout five-eyes. Expect bio warfare to kick off big time soon after they commence production.
Bio weapons and AI controlled warfare looks to be the very near future for the empire of lies.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 2 2023 14:59 utc | 108

https://nitter.net/RonPaulInstitut/status/1730282989949477167#m
@RonPaulInstitut
Nov 30
‘But who are the biggest liars?’ Congress Moves to Expel George Santos.
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/but-who-are-the-biggest-liars-congress-moves-to-expel-george-santos/
As the US House is scheduled for a third – and likely successful – vote to expel Rep. George Santos (R-NY), the Congressman held an extraordinary press conference where he took no prisoners calling out the liars den on Capitol Hill.
There are little lies…and there are the big lies.
Replying to @RonPaulInstitut @DanielLMcAdams
It’s like the prostitutes guild damning street hookers bc they ruin the call girl business.
LOL

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 15:03 utc | 109

Tucker Carlson talks to Roseanne Barr about the continued incarceration of WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange:
https://nitter.net/wikileaks/status/1730353954364457337#m
WikiLeak
Nov 30
“They are torturing him to death in front of all of us… Mike Pompeo tried to have him murdered… He’s not even charged with a crime in the US.
#FreeAssange @TuckerCarlson

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 15:24 utc | 110

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0094582X231213614
Anticorruption and Imperialist Blind Spots:
The Role of the United States in Brazil’s Long Coup.
US academics have published comprehensive examination of the country’s role in Lava Jato as “regime change” operation against the Brazilian Workers Party.

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 15:28 utc | 111

“A report from the UN Office on Drugs and Crime shows that poppy cultivation in Afghanistan has declined – from 233,000 hectares at the end of 2022 to 10,800 hectares in 2023. Opium production has also fallen from 6,200 tonnes to 333 tonnes this year .
The estimated amount of heroin to be exported this year is 24-38 tonnes, contrasting 350-580 tonnes last year.”

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 16:20 utc | 112

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 2 2023 8:17 utc | 96

My apologies for the upsets. Appreciate the points you’re making. My point was merely a technical one.

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Apology accepted. It is so rare to have a civilized interchange! I can see from this response that you do “do nuance”, which is my pet peeve on most boards. In what you said earlier, I did not hear a lot of nuance. This response is better.

The US is littered with guilty parties and obscene events, be they British, European or American peoples. Lincoln simply had a a very effective PR agency behind his memory,

I acknowledge the unending bloodbath that is US domestic and foreign policy. However, acts must be judged in the context of their times. The US was no more bloodthirsty than any of the European powers, even if those powers were constrained by the proximity of equally powerful adversaries. They certainly proved horrible in the Scramble for Africa.
Lincoln was an extremely able politician, and by his own lights, a moral individual deeply troubled by slavery. But he had his own private version of double-think, which allowed him to be amoral as a practical politician

It was Abraham Lincoln who combined perfectly the needs of business, the political ambition of the new Republican party, and the rhetoric of humanitarianism. He would keep the abolition of slavery not at the top of his list of priorities, but close enough to the top so it could be pushed there temporarily by abolitionist pressure and practical political advantage.
Lincoln could skillfully blend the interests of the very rich and the interests of the black at the moment in history when these interests met…Lincoln could argue with lucidly and passion against slavery on moral grounds, while acting cautiously in practical politics.
The American government had set out to fight the slave states in 1861, not to end slavery; but to retain the enormous national territory and market and resources.
– Howard Zinn, “A People’s History of the United States”.

So, to your point that “Lincoln…had a very effective PR agency”, I would agree. Nobody ever mentions that he was a railroad lawyer. But he was no more a war criminal than anyone else in that time period. Once one accepts that the official history is “bunk” and “wriitten by the victors”, it is very hard to point fingers at any one actor in the bar room brawl that is US history.
Also, you will get no argument from me about what a bunch of whackjobs the Puritans were. In the first chapter of James Kuntsler’s “The Geography of Nowhere”, he describes how they initially set themselves up as rural communes along the lines of the Dark Ages. Their entire existence was primitive farming and going to church while waiting to die and go to heaven. They set the pattern for bigotry and intolerance that carries forward to this day.

Slavery would have ended soon enough, as two separate nations the North could have crushed the south and it’s slavery system

Its true that slavery would end due to its inefficiency compared to the power of the Industrial Revolution. But crushing the South without a war would have been difficult. The South had the backing of the British because it was their resource colony. The British built ships for the Confederate navy. Also, given the rabid calls for succession immediately upon Lincoln’s election, I don’t see how Lincoln could have avoided war. His political support would have vaporized if he did not respond.
I am happy to let things slide because you have a very interesting POV; you write elegantly; and you acknowledge you are “definitely unusual to the norm”.
And thanks for the interesting point about black slaveowners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_slave_owners_in_the_United_States

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 2 2023 16:35 utc | 113

https://nitter.net/ChinaScience/status/1727552557793620192#m
@ChinaScience
Nov 23
China is one step closer to a cutting-edge transportation system involving a 1,000 km/h high-speed #maglev #train running in a low vacuum pipeline after newly completing the main structure of a 2-km full-scale test pipeline in N China’s Shanxi, the longest of its kind globally.
https://nitter.net/CNSAWatcher/status/1729410153823228042#m
@CNSAWatcher
Nov 28
🚀 Lunar Farms in moon lava tubes present a solution to the harsh lunar environment. These farms would utilize natural protection against radiation and meteorites, and incorporate advanced technologies for light, energy, and resource management.
Source: buff.ly/46BW5yy

Posted by: MD | Dec 2 2023 16:39 utc | 114

The new leader of Argentina. What is his position on the Malvinas? There might be gas and oil there I heard. It has been a couple generations of improvement since the Exocets were used.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Dec 2 2023 19:10 utc | 115

MD @ 106 – Thank you for the Counterpunch article on Cambodia.

Posted by: Pundita | Dec 2 2023 20:11 utc | 116

John Seymour – British author and promoter of self-sufficiency. Wikipedia has a bio. See also Sufficiency Economic Philosophy by Thailand King Rama, which changed Brian Berletic’s life.

Posted by: Pundita | Dec 2 2023 20:16 utc | 117

Postscript – King Rama 9.

Posted by: Pundita | Dec 2 2023 20:17 utc | 118

@ john brewster | Dec 2 2023 16:35 utc | 113
All good John. Thanks. There are never enough Howard Zinns in this world.
about this though — “But crushing the South without a war would have been difficult. The South had the backing of the British because it was their resource colony. The British built ships for the Confederate navy. Also, given the rabid calls for succession immediately upon Lincoln’s election, I don’t see how Lincoln could have avoided war. His political support would have vaporized if he did not respond.”
I want to clarify that a bit, I meant to slowly economically “crush” and dis-empower the South to a point where slavery would have needed to be Voluntarily Stopped in order for the southern states to thrive and survive “independently”. I’m assuming internal unrest would have contributed to ending slavery more than anything.
The key point without the wanton killing or 600-800K in the process. (equiv to 6 million in todays population) That’s the main war crime, along with how the war was prosecuted by the North … against the civilians, cities, and farms and properties. imo none of that was really necessary or justified legally or morally.
If slavery was the “motivation” it’s a disgusting waste of life as price to pay – slavery had existed in the US for over 250 years, what’s another decade or two?
If the motivation was to stop the States seceding that’s even worse an insidious pointless war crime. imv they had a perfect right to leave the Union – today as well.
iirc Britain backed the south due to cotton and a hangover to the revolutionary war …. and possibly due to issues in “Canada” pushing for independence too. imo (guessing) if there was no Civil War there was much less of a reason for Britain to back the South, and there would have been political forces in the UK willing to isolate the South simply because of slavery … which was already banned in the Caribbean? There’s the issue of “economic advantage” to the south vs British interests — the north if serious about slavery could have easily curtailed trade with the south make life very hard.
So I am imagining (?) a geopolitical situation where over time all of the South’s neighbours and global players would have progressively become more anti-slavery, and therefore less supportive of the South and trading with them … and there were already anti-slavery forces in the South as well; If this took 20 years or more for slavery to end in the South (by choice) it was better option than the human slaughter that occurred in the civil war years.
Besides which — most of the Negro slaves were not really any better off after the civil war anyway! iow more northern PR in the history books of “what a great victory” it was …. they won their freedom then died of starvation or were burned alive in their shack by the KKK.
In fact one could argue that as a direct result of the Civil War and the animosity towards the North (and what Lincoln authorized and his Generals carried out) that the resentment and backlash against the “Negroes” was much worse by the whites in the South right through past WW2.
But again, I’m just “guessing” but it seems logical to me. Anyway – all water and blood under the bridge now. We’ll never know what might have been. Purely academic. Take care, and Cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 3 2023 1:17 utc | 119

MD@111
Thanks for the Brazil link. Invaluable.
Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 3 2023 1:17 utc | 119
You are imagining a situation that was unrelated to reality. The abolition of slavery in the South was long overdue, its maintenance had deleterious consequences throughout America. Furthermore it was maintained not by some social inertia but by increasingly brutal methods.
It got worse by the year. And it spawned both slavery systems in the southwest and California and a regression to indentured labour that involved movements of semi-slaves from China and India which probably exceeded the African slavetrade of the C18th.
It is impossible to exlain the role of slavery in US society unless you recognise that the determination to maintain and extend the slave system (the worst that history ever saw in John Wesley’s view) was one of the primary causes of the “War of Independence”. The other being a defence of genocide which appeared to be threatened, theoretically at least, by Shelburne’s 1763 Proclamation.
As to the argument that the abolition of slavery was a waste of effort because things, arguably, got worse for Afro-Americans after, not 1865 but 1878 (when people sharing your views came to power and threw away the hard won gains of the war) that is hardly an argument against the abolition movement and the efforts of the likes of Thad Stevens and the Grand Army.
As to your ideas about Britain they are not particularly useful: British public opinion, particularly among the working class, was very much in favour of abolition. And so was much of British business which saw India and the Empire (Egypt) as obvious sources of cotton for Manchester.
It is certainly true that there were influential sectors of the British ruling class who backed the South, many in the hope that it would cripple the emerging rival power of the United States. These are complex questions.
So far as I know the British did not build ships for the Confederate navy- it built the commerce raider Alabama (and paid heavily for having done so) but the confederacy’s navy was a lost cause very early in the game.
As to your question “what was another decade or so of slavery” it ought to be self evident, but to spell it out it would have been another decade or so of the appalling suffering that slavery inflicted on millions. Suffering that like a stone in the pond sent ripples of evil throughout not only US but international society.
One might as well have argued that, given the fact that most of Germany and western europe’s Jews had been killed by 1944 what was the point of the Normandy Invasion.
The Civil War was one of the United States’ finest hours- its been largely downhill ever since.
You should read the beginning of Main Travelled Roads (I think it is called) Hamlin Garland’s autobiography.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 2:12 utc | 120

Posted by: bevin | Dec 3 2023 2:12 utc | 120
Thank you for doing a better rebuttal than I would have done.
You are correct about the ships. I knew of the Alabama, and assumed (wrongly) that other ships had been built. I’d be interested to know how they “paid heavily for doing so”; but I can probably google it myself.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 3 2023 2:23 utc | 121

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 3 2023 2:23 utc | 121
Well, according to Wikipedia, the British did build more than just the Alabama.

the United States claimed that Britain had violated neutrality by allowing five warships to be constructed, especially the Alabama, knowing that it would eventually enter into naval service with the Confederacy.
Other particulars included the following: In the summer of 1862, the British-built steam warship Oreto was delivered to Nassau in the Bahamas with the secret understanding that it would be later transferred to the Confederate States Navy. Upon transfer, it was commissioned CSS Florida. British Royal Navy Admiral George Willes Watson (1827–1897) aided the transfer, and Watson’s actions were reviewed by the tribunal.[2]
Other warships included the CSS Shenandoah (built at Alexander Stephen and Sons in Glasgow), CSS Lark (built at John Laird and Sons, like the Alabama), and CSS Tallahassee (built at J & W Dudgeon in London).
Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts, the chairman of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also demanded that “indirect damages” be included, specifically the British blockade runners.[3] British blockade runners played a pivotal role in sustaining the war effort of the Confederacy, smuggling through the Union blockade thousands of tons of gunpowder, half a million rifles, and several hundred cannons to the Confederacy.[4] Such an act lengthened the Civil War by two years and cost 400,000 more lives of soldiers and civilians on both sides.[5][6]
After international arbitration endorsed the American position in 1872, Britain settled the matter by paying the United States $15.5 million, ending the dispute and leading to a treaty that restored friendly relations between Britain and the United States.
“>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Claims

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 3 2023 2:30 utc | 122

bevin | Dec 3 2023 2:12 utc | 120
Wow, and you ‘criticize’ my ‘imagination’? You’re the expert.
Would you like a match for that Straw Man 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Dec 3 2023 9:25 utc | 123

Mildly off topic but technology is finally catching up with my daydreams…
I was watching a BBC kid’s show on TV called Grace’s Amazing Machines recently. It featured something amazing (for a change).
It’s a multi-propellor electric drone type gizmo about 1.2 metres in diameter. A person can stand on it and it’s powerful enough to take off with an adult on board. It reached a height of circa 50 feet above the ground and can hover and zoom around.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 3 2023 12:57 utc | 124

technology is finally catching up with my daydreams…
It reached a height of circa 50 feet above the ground
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 3 2023 12:57 utc | 124

Your dream is to fall to your death?

Posted by: too scents | Dec 3 2023 14:13 utc | 125

Posted by: too scents | Dec 3 2023 14:13 utc | 125
The gizmo was presumably a prototype and Grace provided zero technical data of any kind. But it did carry a person aloft. If it ever goes into production it would be a simple matter to incorporate a grab-rail at waist height in the form of an inverted U – adding max 10 kg to its gross weight.
So Yes I’d be eager to have a crack at flying a production model.
It’s a bit like standing at the top of a tall ladder. So long as there’s something to grab hold of, one’s fears can be kept in check.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 4 2023 1:33 utc | 126

HARD WORKING MR.WANG IN CHINA
https://nitter.net/pretentiouswhat/status/1730551522860351890#m
David Fishman
@pretentiouswhat
Dec 1
China Taxicab Chronicles:
Hard-Working Mr. Wang
Yesterday I took a long taxi from Wuxi to a conference hotel near Taihu.
My driver was Mr. Wang, a Wuxi transplant from the mountains of Western Anhui.
A chatty guy, he had a lot of opinions about EVs, rural hukous, and tea. 🧵
The conversation started typically
“Hey, good Chinese. How long have you been in China?”
“Oh…thanks. 11 years.”
“Where are you from?”
“The USA. What about you? From Wuxi?”
“No, I’m from Anhui, Jinzhai County.”
“Jinzhai? I don’t know it. Which city?”
“Lu’an City
“Ohhh, Lu’an city. That’s the one that looks like Liu’an (六安) but is pronounced Lu’an right? I used to always read it incorrectly.”
“Yes that’s right. Lu’an is how we say it in the local dialect. Jinzhai County is part of Lu’an. It’s close to Hubei”.
Jinzhai countryside:
“Okay, what is Jinzhai County famous for?”
I am expecting him to name some dish, specialty product, or tourist site. I am wrong.
“Generals! Jinzhai County is known as the Home of Generals! We have 59 of of them!”
I do a quick Baidu search.
“Wow, that’s right. 59 generals…”
“Actually it was 60 generals. But one of them died in fighting in Korea, and he is not counted anymore. So Jinzhai is the county with 59 generals…”
“Okay, it looks like it’s quite rural…I see it has some tourist areas. I see the Dabie Mountain Scenic Area. Is that nice?”
“Oh that’s very beautiful. But don’t go to visit now. There’s nothing to see. You could go in the winter, when there’s mist in the morning, and it turns into icicles on the trees. It’s very pretty.”
“I’ll definitely check it out someday. How long have you been in Wuxi?”
“Me…? I’ve been here almost 20 years now.”
“Oh, so your family is here now? Did you buy a house here?”
Yeah, many members of my family are here. And my kids. I bought a house here. It’s not so expensive if you don’t buy in the city center.”
“Oh, how old are your kids?”
“My son, he’s in middle school now in Wuxi.”
“He a good student?
“He works hard, never cuts class. But Wuxi kids are the most hard-working in the country, you know?
Actually he likes art. If he can’t go to college, I will support him to pursue art.”
“So…did you move your residency to Wuxi?”
“No, I don’t have a Wuxi hukou”
“Why? Is it too difficult to get a Wuxi hukou?”
“It’s okay. If you pay taxes in Wuxi for some years…I don’t know how many…you can apply for Wuxi hukou. But I don’t want to give up my Jinzhai hukou.”
“Why don’t you want to give up the hukou in your hometown?”
“Ah, let me explain it to you. In China, there are two kinds of hukou…urban hukou and rural hukou. Urban hukou has some good aspects, but actually rural hukou has more benefits, so you shouldn’t give it up.”
“What kind of benefits?”
“There are some programs for rural hukous only…like loans…special support programs, some government promotions. And you can own land. If you get an urban hukou, you can’t have land. Land can be sold someday.
“Oh, so you still have land back home?”
“Yeah. If you keep your rural hukou, you can keep your land.”
“But what can you do with the land? You are here…so there is no one to use the land. Does it have value?”
“Oh you can still grow things on it…Some people there can work on the land while I’m here.”
“Oh…a mountain area in Anhui. I guess you’re growing…tea?”
“Yeah exactly, tea. That’s the only thing that will grow well in our soil.”
“Green tea, right?”
“Yeah, but you know, red tea is the same thing. It’s green tea that is fermented, so the flavor is stronger”
(I did not know this. I later checked Wikipedia to find that the oxidation process that yields black tea (or “red tea” in Chinese) is indeed called fermentation, albeit erroneously, since no fermentation decay actually takes place).
“Can you make a lot of money from planting tea?”
“No. In one year, all of my land back home can produce a total gross of…maybe 100,000 RMB. Then you have to subtract costs like labor, equipment, materials. And it’s very tiring work.”
“So you prefer life in Wuxi?”
“Yeah.”
“What do the people back home in the village think of people like you, that go to other cities to work and develop? How do they see you?”
“How they see me…hah…how do I say this? I guess think I’m pretty hard-working.”
(The word he used here is 勤劳)
“Oh, is it rare to leave the village?”
“No, not at all. Most people who are hard-working like me will leave the village. The people that don’t want to come out like me are…how to say…not so hard-working…”
“So if I were to say it bluntly, your village now is full of lazy people and the elderly?”
“Hahaha, yes, that’s right. Lazy people and old people. There’s no opportunity, unless you want to raise tea.”
“What about eco-tourism? Does the government push you to open homestays?
“Oh, of course. There’s even one next to my house. But there are too many. You can’t make enough money doing that, I think. There’s too much competition. Still rely on tea.”
“Well, I guess they live a more relaxed life compared to you.
“Oh yeah, it’s relaxed. But they also have a lot of financial stress, you know? And it’s not because of high cost of living. The main issue is the old traditions in the countryside. You need to spend so much money on gifts! Births, birthdays, weddings…”
David F
…just think about it. If you aren’t familiar with the person, you should give them 100 or 200 RMB. If it’s a close relative, you have to give them 500 to 1000 RMB. That’s a lot of money if you only earn 6000-7000 RMB per season…
…but if you just came to visit, I guess you would say it’s very relaxed, very comfortable. My niece…she married a foreign guy, like you. Now they live overseas. But when he came to visit our hometown, he said it was so comfortable, he wanted to stay forever”.
“Hah, of course he thought it was comfortable. You guys were probably feeding him delicious food all day and treating him like the emperor’s son. He didn’t have to do anything.”
“Hahaha, yes, that’s true. You totally understand the Chinese hospitality culture”.
“Trust me…I experience it when I go to my wife’s hometown. I don’t dare to say that I like something, or I will eat it every day for the rest of my visit. I said I liked a beef dish on Day 1, and they made me beef every day…”
He’s cracking up. “Hahahaha we did that too!”
“Do you live in Wuxi?” he asks me.
“No I’m just here for work.”
“What kind of work?”
“I work in energy, mostly wind and solar. Does Jinzhai County have wind and solar power?”
“No wind…no solar. We have hydropower storage, though…pumps at night for cheap power. You know it?”
“Yeah, of course, this is part of my work too. Pumped hydropower is very important to make sure you don’t have power blackouts”.
(He is referring to State Grid’s Jinzhai Pumped Hydropower Storage Facility that just came online earlier this year).
Anhui Jinzhai pumped storage power station, owned and operated by State Grid Xinyuan. -a major pumped-storage hydroelectricity company in China, has started to generate electricity on Dec.26, providing a strong guarantee for the safe and stable operation of Anhui power grid.
“What do you think of these?” he gestures at the car in front of us, an electric vehicle with a green license plate.
“I think they’re good. You’ll save money on gas, plus you can get a license plate for free.”
“Yeah, that part is good, but I think it’s bad overall.”
“Oh, why?”
“Think about it. In China, we have 400 million cars now. If all of them switch to EVs, that will raise the demand for power. Electricity will be expensive! Maybe we will pay 5 yuan per kilowatt hour!”
“Don’t worry, I don’t think that will happen. The price should stay steady…”
“Ah well, I don’t know. But I don’t want an electric vehicle. I like hydrogen vehicles. Japan is very strong for cars. I like their hydrogen cars. Their technology is very advanced.”
(I wonder where he’s been learning about Japanese hydrogen FCVs to have reached this opinion??)
By now, 30 mins have flown by, and we are pulling up to the hotel, so I say goodbye.
Thanks to the chatty and curiously tech-savvy Mr. Wang, I have a new appreciation for tea farming and hukou optimizing, while adding a new travel destination too. Not a bad ride.

Posted by: MD | Dec 4 2023 19:01 utc | 127

The Responsibility to Not Report: Irish Journalist Defends Suppressing Stories for the Public Good
https://jonathanturley.org/2023/12/04/the-responsibility-to-not-report-irish-journalist-calls-on-colleagues-to-suppress-immigration-stories/
“We have been discussing the latest Irish law to crackdown on free speech. Yet, even with the criminalization of speech, there is apparently still the danger of citizens reading or hearing facts from reporters that are best kept from them. Thus, Kitty Holland, a correspondent with the Irish Times, is defending the media’s decision to suppress stories that would “incite hatred” and undermine journalistic viewpoints.
The comments came in a BBC interview regarding the victim impact statement of the boyfriend of Ashling Murphy, who was murdered in 2022 by an immigrant. Ryan Casey stated in part:
It just sickens me to the core that someone can come to this country, be fully supported in terms of social housing, social welfare, and free medical care for over 10 years… over 10 years… never hold down a legitimate job, and never once contribute to society in any way shape or form… can commit such a horrendous evil act of incomprehensible violence on such a beautiful, loving and talented person who in fact, worked for the state, educating the next generation and represented everything that is good about Irish society.
I feel like this country is no longer the country that Ashling and I grew up in, and Ireland has officially lost its innocence when a crime of this magnitude can be perpetrated in broad daylight. This country needs to wake up. This time, things have got to change, we have to once and for all start putting the safety of not only Irish people — but everybody in this country who works hard, pays taxes, raises families and overall contributes to society — first.
We don’t want to see any other family in this country go through what we have gone through and are continuing to go through. I myself have a little sister and honestly, just the thought of her walking the streets of any village, town or city in this country alone makes me physically sick and quite frankly absolutely terrifies me as this country is simply not safe anymore!
This time, if real change does not happen, if the safety of people living in this country is further ignored, I’m afraid our country is heading down a very dangerous path and you can be certain that we will not be the last family to be in this position.
The host asked: “Those were very interesting comments, weren’t they?”
Holland disagreed and said that they had to be suppressed in the best interests of the public:
“I think elements of them were not good,. They were incitement to hatred, and I think that’s why the media left out aspects of them. I think they were right to not include [Casey’s full comments in news reports]. I don’t think that they were helpful, and this is the kind of thing that the far right latches on to.””

Posted by: rpst | Dec 4 2023 19:08 utc | 128

MD | Dec 4 2023 19:01 utc | 127
Thanks for the ride-I feel like I just came back from China. You’re an artist.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 4 2023 19:09 utc | 129

Posted by: rpst | Dec 4 2023 19:08 utc | 128
I hope the Irish don’t succumb to this level of political correctness. It’s always better to get things out in the open and have a conversation that includes all concerned. On balance, I think immigration has been very good for Ireland. Having adult conversations about potential changes to aspects that might be improved upon is not an appeal to right wingers. Maybe no changes are required, after all, mental illness is part of the human condition. You can’t prevent every bad thing from happening. Okay, I’m done stating the obvious.

Posted by: KMRIA | Dec 4 2023 19:35 utc | 130