Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 13, 2023
Not Getting It

Scoop: Austin warned Gallant about Israeli military actions in LebanonAxios, Nov 12 2023

Biden administration officials are satisfied that Hezbollah's leader Hasan Nasrallah's speeches over the last week didn't include a call for further escalation and saw that as a sign that their messages were being heard, one source said.

Nasrallah's Second Speech On GazaMoon of Alabama, Nov 11 2023

"What happens on the battlefield is more important than my speech."

Comments

Doctor Eleven 95
Hopefully you are wrong. We have been lulled into a false sense of security about nukes because Nuclear- armed Nato was fighting nuclear- armed Russia. Caution was needed.
In the Middle East we go back to carpet bombing the natives until they give up their countries lock stock and barrels of oil.
This last three weeks has proven that Russia won’t be the world’s policeman to replace the US and that China and Biden will re- route their big trade rail project wherever they’re told, making Israel a partner in their Global trade.
Serial war criminals are hard to find. Blair’s too old and expensive so Cameron is the perfect CEO toad.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 13 2023 18:16 utc | 201

Doctor Eleven 95
Hopefully you are wrong. We have been lulled into a false sense of security about nukes because Nuclear- armed Nato was fighting nuclear- armed Russia. Caution was needed.
In the Middle East we go back to carpet bombing the natives until they give up their countries lock stock and barrels of oil.
This last three weeks has proven that Russia won’t be the world’s policeman to replace the US and that China and Biden will re- route their big trade rail project wherever they’re told, making Israel a partner in their Global trade.
Serial war criminals are hard to find. Blair’s too old and expensive so Cameron is the perfect CEO toad.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 13 2023 18:16 utc | 202

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
Wishful thinking for the zionists.
The problem there is arabs and jews are the same line of semites. That’s another reason israel is the most anti-semitic nation on the planet.
Anology would be India trying to devlope an enthno-bomb for Pakistanis

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 18:18 utc | 203

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
Wishful thinking for the zionists.
The problem there is arabs and jews are the same line of semites. That’s another reason israel is the most anti-semitic nation on the planet.
Anology would be India trying to devlope an enthno-bomb for Pakistanis

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 18:18 utc | 204

U.S, readouts are generally opaque documents. This is deliberate. The readout of the Austin-Gallant call reveals the Sec Def “reaffirms” support for Israel’s “ self-defence” (i.e. state as fact; assert again strongly) while merely “reiterates” concern for civilians (i.e. say something again). This says: the U.S. fully supports the indiscriminate bombing campaign (under a peculiar reading of international law i.e. self-defence), but feels bad (maybe) about the human cost. Austin tells his counterpart not to go genocidal in Lebanon, at least not yet. The U.S. does not have to “ask” about operations, they know everything about such in real time. The purpose of the opacity is it creates space for the domestic media to speculate, hand-wring, and amplify vague intention expressed by unidentified “insiders”. Better to watch what they do rather than listen to what they say, as Nasrallah pointed out.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 13 2023 18:19 utc | 205

U.S, readouts are generally opaque documents. This is deliberate. The readout of the Austin-Gallant call reveals the Sec Def “reaffirms” support for Israel’s “ self-defence” (i.e. state as fact; assert again strongly) while merely “reiterates” concern for civilians (i.e. say something again). This says: the U.S. fully supports the indiscriminate bombing campaign (under a peculiar reading of international law i.e. self-defence), but feels bad (maybe) about the human cost. Austin tells his counterpart not to go genocidal in Lebanon, at least not yet. The U.S. does not have to “ask” about operations, they know everything about such in real time. The purpose of the opacity is it creates space for the domestic media to speculate, hand-wring, and amplify vague intention expressed by unidentified “insiders”. Better to watch what they do rather than listen to what they say, as Nasrallah pointed out.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 13 2023 18:19 utc | 206

A fair assessment, c1ue | Nov 13 2023 18:15 utc | 103; welcome back.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 13 2023 18:22 utc | 207

A fair assessment, c1ue | Nov 13 2023 18:15 utc | 103; welcome back.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 13 2023 18:22 utc | 208

At the invitation of Maldivian President-elect Mohamed Muizzu, President Xi Jinping’s Special Envoy and State Councilor Shen Yiqin will visit the Maldives from November 15 to 18 and attend the inauguration ceremony of the new President to be held on November 17 in Malé. At the invitation of the Sri Lankan government, State Councilor Shen Yiqin will visit Sri Lanka from November 18 to 21.
People’s Daily: China and the US have both announced an upcoming meeting between the two Presidents. Senior officials of the White House National Security Council said LOL! on the condition of anonymity BWAH! on November 10 that through the meeting the US is looking toward “managing the competition, preventing the downside risk of conflict and ensuring channels of communication are open.” They also said that, “We know efforts to shape or reform China over several decades have failed.” The US will raise concerns to China over bilateral and hotspot issues. The US is not supportive of Taiwan independence [BULLSHIT], wishes to maintain the status quo [BULLSHIT], and opposes China’s increasingly frequent military actions in the Taiwan Strait. The US will also underscore its commitment to the security of the Philippines in the South China Sea. On the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the US will underscore its desire for China to make clear that Iran LOL! should not seek to escalate or spread violence in the region. What’s China’s response?
Mao Ning: China has announced President Xi Jinping’s trip to the US for a summit meeting at the US invitation. The two Presidents will have in-depth communication on issues of strategic, overarching and fundamental importance in shaping China-U.S. relations and major issues concerning world peace and development.
China views and handles its relations with the US in accordance with the three principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation proposed by President Xi Jinping. Major-country competition runs counter to the trend of our times and provides no answer to the problems in the US or the challenges in our world. China does not fear competition, but we do not agree that China-US relations should be defined by competition.
[…]
The ongoing Palestinian-Israeli conflict continues to grip the world’s attention. China stands on the side of equity and justice. We have been in close contact with relevant parties and committed to deescalation and protection of civilians. We hope that the US will follow an objective and just stance and play a constructive role in halting the conflict.
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Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:25 utc | 209

At the invitation of Maldivian President-elect Mohamed Muizzu, President Xi Jinping’s Special Envoy and State Councilor Shen Yiqin will visit the Maldives from November 15 to 18 and attend the inauguration ceremony of the new President to be held on November 17 in Malé. At the invitation of the Sri Lankan government, State Councilor Shen Yiqin will visit Sri Lanka from November 18 to 21.
People’s Daily: China and the US have both announced an upcoming meeting between the two Presidents. Senior officials of the White House National Security Council said LOL! on the condition of anonymity BWAH! on November 10 that through the meeting the US is looking toward “managing the competition, preventing the downside risk of conflict and ensuring channels of communication are open.” They also said that, “We know efforts to shape or reform China over several decades have failed.” The US will raise concerns to China over bilateral and hotspot issues. The US is not supportive of Taiwan independence [BULLSHIT], wishes to maintain the status quo [BULLSHIT], and opposes China’s increasingly frequent military actions in the Taiwan Strait. The US will also underscore its commitment to the security of the Philippines in the South China Sea. On the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the US will underscore its desire for China to make clear that Iran LOL! should not seek to escalate or spread violence in the region. What’s China’s response?
Mao Ning: China has announced President Xi Jinping’s trip to the US for a summit meeting at the US invitation. The two Presidents will have in-depth communication on issues of strategic, overarching and fundamental importance in shaping China-U.S. relations and major issues concerning world peace and development.
China views and handles its relations with the US in accordance with the three principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation proposed by President Xi Jinping. Major-country competition runs counter to the trend of our times and provides no answer to the problems in the US or the challenges in our world. China does not fear competition, but we do not agree that China-US relations should be defined by competition.
[…]
The ongoing Palestinian-Israeli conflict continues to grip the world’s attention. China stands on the side of equity and justice. We have been in close contact with relevant parties and committed to deescalation and protection of civilians. We hope that the US will follow an objective and just stance and play a constructive role in halting the conflict.
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Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:25 utc | 210

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning’s Regular Press Conference on November 13, 2023
translated to the best of their abilities by inscrutable Chinese ppl to EN, RU, ES, FR—so you don’t have to “parse” your local “China expert” geopolitical analyst.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 211

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning’s Regular Press Conference on November 13, 2023
translated to the best of their abilities by inscrutable Chinese ppl to EN, RU, ES, FR—so you don’t have to “parse” your local “China expert” geopolitical analyst.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 212

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 10:06 utc | 5:

The poor people in Gaza subjected to unimaginable suffering.

The poor people in Gaza have always been subjected to unimaginable suffering since the 1967 war, haven’t they? This time around more windows of their homes are perhaps broken, more children/women are injured/killed than what is usual on daily basis as Gaza has been blockaded as a concentration camp, from what I have read global press.
You seem to think that Zionists holding Gaza people hostages as the mandate to cleanse Gaza of Palestinian Arabs should be allowed to work, and Resistance should use kamikaze tactics to facilitate the Zionists plot.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 213

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 10:06 utc | 5:

The poor people in Gaza subjected to unimaginable suffering.

The poor people in Gaza have always been subjected to unimaginable suffering since the 1967 war, haven’t they? This time around more windows of their homes are perhaps broken, more children/women are injured/killed than what is usual on daily basis as Gaza has been blockaded as a concentration camp, from what I have read global press.
You seem to think that Zionists holding Gaza people hostages as the mandate to cleanse Gaza of Palestinian Arabs should be allowed to work, and Resistance should use kamikaze tactics to facilitate the Zionists plot.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 214

Not going to happen, but anyway:

Israeli media: Knesset members from the Likud Party discuss no confidence in Netanyahu

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73637

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2023 18:36 utc | 215

Not going to happen, but anyway:

Israeli media: Knesset members from the Likud Party discuss no confidence in Netanyahu

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73637

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2023 18:36 utc | 216

@110
What gave you that mistaken idea ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 217

@110
What gave you that mistaken idea ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 218

Seen on X
Re: The appt of Tony Blair as Gaza humanitarian coordinator/
Blood stained polar bear slated to become “baby harp seal coordinator”

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 219

Seen on X
Re: The appt of Tony Blair as Gaza humanitarian coordinator/
Blood stained polar bear slated to become “baby harp seal coordinator”

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 220

It did warm my heart to watch some vids from a Palestinian fund raiser held in a Belfast Pub this past weekend. Where new ‘rebel’ songs where heard to ring out across the land.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 13 2023 17:57 utc | 98
Sounds beautiful. I wish my neck of the woods had such culture.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 221

It did warm my heart to watch some vids from a Palestinian fund raiser held in a Belfast Pub this past weekend. Where new ‘rebel’ songs where heard to ring out across the land.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 13 2023 17:57 utc | 98
Sounds beautiful. I wish my neck of the woods had such culture.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 13 2023 18:38 utc | 222

@sln2002, #108:
As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side. My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 223

@sln2002, #108:
As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side. My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 224

Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
“Israel is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected, according to a report in London’s Sunday Times. The report, citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources, says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus. The “ethno-bomb”…”
If true that’s an admission by the Zionist colonists that they have no genetic connection with the original Semites and that Zionism is a pure fraud.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 225

Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
“Israel is reportedly developing a biological weapon that would harm Arabs while leaving Jews unaffected, according to a report in London’s Sunday Times. The report, citing Israeli military and western intelligence sources, says that scientists are trying to identify distinctive genes carried by Arabs to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus. The “ethno-bomb”…”
If true that’s an admission by the Zionist colonists that they have no genetic connection with the original Semites and that Zionism is a pure fraud.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 226

inscrutable Chinese
Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 109

Perhaps scrutable was the adjective you had in mind?

Posted by: too scents | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 227

inscrutable Chinese
Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:29 utc | 109

Perhaps scrutable was the adjective you had in mind?

Posted by: too scents | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 228

If you want to denigrate someone please stick to the truth, or else you are only hurting your own credibility.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2023 16:35 utc | 73
Another adherent of the Mercouris cult. Mercouris is a hilariously pompous windbag who’s read a few history books and thinks he’s the god of political ‘analysis’. He even presumes to advise world leaders, lol.

Posted by: barry | Nov 13 2023 18:43 utc | 229

If you want to denigrate someone please stick to the truth, or else you are only hurting your own credibility.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2023 16:35 utc | 73
Another adherent of the Mercouris cult. Mercouris is a hilariously pompous windbag who’s read a few history books and thinks he’s the god of political ‘analysis’. He even presumes to advise world leaders, lol.

Posted by: barry | Nov 13 2023 18:43 utc | 230

Perhaps scrutable was the adjective you had in mind?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 117
I was attempting to communicate to (“whistle”) the craziest, most illiterate, and litigious contributors to MoA “discourse.”
Without naming UIDs, of course.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 231

Perhaps scrutable was the adjective you had in mind?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 117
I was attempting to communicate to (“whistle”) the craziest, most illiterate, and litigious contributors to MoA “discourse.”
Without naming UIDs, of course.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 232

” Israel’s war against Hamas costing the economy around $260 million every day”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-12/israel-s-hamas-war-budget-leaves-netanyahu-caught-between-markets-and-politics
Not pay walled.
Alternate
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/war-budget-israel-caught-between-markets-and-politics/articleshow/105172245.cms
Much hand wringing underway..

Posted by: bubbles | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 233

” Israel’s war against Hamas costing the economy around $260 million every day”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-12/israel-s-hamas-war-budget-leaves-netanyahu-caught-between-markets-and-politics
Not pay walled.
Alternate
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/war-budget-israel-caught-between-markets-and-politics/articleshow/105172245.cms
Much hand wringing underway..

Posted by: bubbles | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 234

One cannot call what Nasrallah has “Power”.
All Nasrallah has is responsibility and risk.
No upside.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 13 2023 11:12 utc | 18
I think you haven’t understood Lebanese politics. In the last election, I think it was, Hizbullah effectively won, in spite of the arcane “fixed” community politics, whereby the president is christian etc etc. But they refused to take power, because that might lead to sanctions, cos of the hatred of the western powers towards them.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 13 2023 18:48 utc | 235

One cannot call what Nasrallah has “Power”.
All Nasrallah has is responsibility and risk.
No upside.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 13 2023 11:12 utc | 18
I think you haven’t understood Lebanese politics. In the last election, I think it was, Hizbullah effectively won, in spite of the arcane “fixed” community politics, whereby the president is christian etc etc. But they refused to take power, because that might lead to sanctions, cos of the hatred of the western powers towards them.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 13 2023 18:48 utc | 236

As international calls for a ceasefire mount, Israel’s foreign minister estimates the IDF will have to cease its military operations within two to three weeks. (Haaretz)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 18:48 utc | 237

As international calls for a ceasefire mount, Israel’s foreign minister estimates the IDF will have to cease its military operations within two to three weeks. (Haaretz)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 18:48 utc | 238

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 17:17 utc | 85
Brilliant…one more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh0F41AvO_Q

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 13 2023 18:49 utc | 239

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 17:17 utc | 85
Brilliant…one more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh0F41AvO_Q

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 13 2023 18:49 utc | 240

As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side. My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
I think Xi and the CCP know what they’re doing. They are seeking a peaceful subordination of western imperialism, so they don’t yell at or threaten the crazed dog, the approach cautiously with a little food and choke collar.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 13 2023 18:50 utc | 241

As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side. My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
I think Xi and the CCP know what they’re doing. They are seeking a peaceful subordination of western imperialism, so they don’t yell at or threaten the crazed dog, the approach cautiously with a little food and choke collar.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 13 2023 18:50 utc | 242

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 11:12 utc | 17
Mate, turn on autocorrect.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2023 18:52 utc | 243

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 11:12 utc | 17
Mate, turn on autocorrect.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2023 18:52 utc | 244

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 119
Projection

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 18:55 utc | 245

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 18:44 utc | 119
Projection

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 18:55 utc | 246

@ 125
Dude ! Get a life.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 19:01 utc | 247

@ 125
Dude ! Get a life.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 19:01 utc | 248

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:06 utc | 128
Sounds reminiscent of the theory that the Anunnaki are in a proxy (diluted descendants) war with the Pleiadians here on Earth. The Anunnaki of course being the jews.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 19:09 utc | 249

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:06 utc | 128
Sounds reminiscent of the theory that the Anunnaki are in a proxy (diluted descendants) war with the Pleiadians here on Earth. The Anunnaki of course being the jews.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 19:09 utc | 250

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 17:17 utc | 85
I hope it doesn’t take the Palestians 800 years. Here are some good songs by The Irish Rebels
My Little Armalite
The Black Watch
Coalisland Calypso

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 13 2023 19:16 utc | 251

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 17:17 utc | 85
I hope it doesn’t take the Palestians 800 years. Here are some good songs by The Irish Rebels
My Little Armalite
The Black Watch
Coalisland Calypso

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 13 2023 19:16 utc | 252

… most of the UK politicians have allied themselves with Israeli interests. As up and coming politicians with potential they are wooed by Israeli embassy operatives and once elected they are invited over to be given a tour of the sights.
I recall reading a few years back that 80%+ Conservative and 60%+ Labour MPs were members of their party’s Friends of Israel grouping.

Conservative Friends of Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israel
Labour Friends of Israel
“>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Friends_of_Israel

These groups have, I would argue, a strangle hold on British politics and any unaffiliated politician who steps out of line can and will be hit with accusations from all sides in an attempt to either silence them or if necessary end their careers as an MP. The media is also used to whip up discontent and publicly vilify them in support of what I would call an Israeli agenda.
My issue with them is: if you are elected by a constituency who you have asked to vote for you and that you have said you will serve, what are you doing aligning yourself with a foreign state? Surely your concerns should be with the constituents whom you are supposed to represent?
If there was a Labour/Conservative Friends of Russia/China, I wonder what the political response be?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 13 2023 19:27 utc | 253

… most of the UK politicians have allied themselves with Israeli interests. As up and coming politicians with potential they are wooed by Israeli embassy operatives and once elected they are invited over to be given a tour of the sights.
I recall reading a few years back that 80%+ Conservative and 60%+ Labour MPs were members of their party’s Friends of Israel grouping.

Conservative Friends of Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israel
Labour Friends of Israel
“>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Friends_of_Israel

These groups have, I would argue, a strangle hold on British politics and any unaffiliated politician who steps out of line can and will be hit with accusations from all sides in an attempt to either silence them or if necessary end their careers as an MP. The media is also used to whip up discontent and publicly vilify them in support of what I would call an Israeli agenda.
My issue with them is: if you are elected by a constituency who you have asked to vote for you and that you have said you will serve, what are you doing aligning yourself with a foreign state? Surely your concerns should be with the constituents whom you are supposed to represent?
If there was a Labour/Conservative Friends of Russia/China, I wonder what the political response be?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 13 2023 19:27 utc | 254

Posted by: ak74 | Nov 13 2023 14:35 utc | 49
Right on. Aka western “values”. We have the right to kill whom we want. We are the elected race. We are supermen. Cf. Nietzsche.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 13 2023 19:27 utc | 255

Posted by: ak74 | Nov 13 2023 14:35 utc | 49
Right on. Aka western “values”. We have the right to kill whom we want. We are the elected race. We are supermen. Cf. Nietzsche.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 13 2023 19:27 utc | 256

Hi b,
Did you cover possibilità of israeli frindly Fire on isr civilians during
7oct (?) Facts?

Posted by: Mry | Nov 13 2023 19:28 utc | 257

Hi b,
Did you cover possibilità of israeli frindly Fire on isr civilians during
7oct (?) Facts?

Posted by: Mry | Nov 13 2023 19:28 utc | 258

BREAKING NEWS
Shock! Horror! Gasp!
The Israeli President has just revealed that he has discovered a signed copy of Mein Kampf in the secret Hamas headquarters in Gaza with Hitler’s fingerprints on it!
It transpires that the mustachioed German dictator never died in his Berlin bunker in 1945, as is commonly believed. Instead, he escaped, first to the secret Nazi base in Antarctica by U boat and flying saucer, and then on to Gaza, where he took over Hamas, and has been directing their operations for years.
“This time there vill be no mistake,” a note on the front cover under the Fuhrer’s signature reads. “I vill kill all ze Jews mit my friends in Hamas.”
The Fuhrer’s current whereabouts are unknown, but there are tell tale signs that he may have taken refuge in the huge Gaza tunnel complex for the time being. Discarded jackboots, swastikas, other Nazi paraphernalia, and a signed photograph of Eva Braun clearly point to that possibility.
The US navy carrier groups operating in the area are carrying out intensive anti submarine searches in case a rescue U boat is despatched to rescue the Fuhrer. Likewise, Israel’s Iron Dome system has been put on high alert to shoot down any flying saucers coming from Antarctica.

Posted by: anon | Nov 13 2023 19:30 utc | 259

BREAKING NEWS
Shock! Horror! Gasp!
The Israeli President has just revealed that he has discovered a signed copy of Mein Kampf in the secret Hamas headquarters in Gaza with Hitler’s fingerprints on it!
It transpires that the mustachioed German dictator never died in his Berlin bunker in 1945, as is commonly believed. Instead, he escaped, first to the secret Nazi base in Antarctica by U boat and flying saucer, and then on to Gaza, where he took over Hamas, and has been directing their operations for years.
“This time there vill be no mistake,” a note on the front cover under the Fuhrer’s signature reads. “I vill kill all ze Jews mit my friends in Hamas.”
The Fuhrer’s current whereabouts are unknown, but there are tell tale signs that he may have taken refuge in the huge Gaza tunnel complex for the time being. Discarded jackboots, swastikas, other Nazi paraphernalia, and a signed photograph of Eva Braun clearly point to that possibility.
The US navy carrier groups operating in the area are carrying out intensive anti submarine searches in case a rescue U boat is despatched to rescue the Fuhrer. Likewise, Israel’s Iron Dome system has been put on high alert to shoot down any flying saucers coming from Antarctica.

Posted by: anon | Nov 13 2023 19:30 utc | 260


But research on the human genome is now revealing the presence of dna which cannot be explained through normal evolution and is not found in any other species on earth.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:06 utc | 128
Can you provide evidence for your claim?
What does say other people?
For example:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604262/

The completion of the Human Genome Project in 2003 confirmed humans are 99.9% identical at the DNA level and there is no genetic basis for race.

Posted by: 600w | Nov 13 2023 19:30 utc | 261


But research on the human genome is now revealing the presence of dna which cannot be explained through normal evolution and is not found in any other species on earth.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:06 utc | 128
Can you provide evidence for your claim?
What does say other people?
For example:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604262/

The completion of the Human Genome Project in 2003 confirmed humans are 99.9% identical at the DNA level and there is no genetic basis for race.

Posted by: 600w | Nov 13 2023 19:30 utc | 262

I love the smell of Cope in the evening and some other happy thoughts for this auspicious evening , the darkest night, no moon night, New Moon – from tomorrow it rises.
@ Posted by: barry | Nov 13 2023 18:43 utc | 118
@ Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Nov 13 2023 16:37 utc | 74
That’s cope of low order Bob try harder.
You do know how barristers present their cases infront of juries and unfriendly judges don’t ya?
I regularly stop listening to him – he is the better than counting sheep to drop off to sleep. Just means I have to start again when I wake up.
@ Posted by: Visitor | Nov 13 2023 16:54 utc | 77
Lol . I’m see what to did there. 🙌
Have fine session at the bar folks.
@ Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Nov 13 2023 17:03 utc | 79
Bob,Bob,Bob – like a duck in a barrel – that’s a total whoosh over your head eh?
Cope harder.
@ Posted by: Hankster | Nov 13 2023 17:46 utc | 94
I don’t know who the fabled mummified great man of the City is and in which secret Masonic room he still sits – Rhodes is one on the list, as is a Cecil or one of his red shield employers maybe the original one?
It was one of the weirdest concept I came across as a youth of Lenin mummified ! Did Stalin love him so much or quite the opposite? I have come to understand it was the latter when learning how the Bolsheviks were wholly funded by the Banking Cabal that formed the Fed and had been nurtured for decades in Vienna and London and US.
@ Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 18:18 utc | 105
Lol – have you just arrived on the planet sucker? You do know the Ashkenazis /khazars are NOT the ancient semites of the Levant, they NEVER were.
What do you think all the secret genetic labs dotted around Russia and China and in Africa are about?
What do you think Gain of Function is about?
You also must know that not all subcontinentals are not genetically the same – they not only have different physical features as well wholly different languages – which take tens of thousands of years to develop.
@ Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
“As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden..”
It’s normal for a surrender to be taken in the vanquished country isn’t it?
The disappointment will be turned to celebration in SF, ain’t that where China Town has been the oldest settlement?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 13 2023 19:31 utc | 263

I love the smell of Cope in the evening and some other happy thoughts for this auspicious evening , the darkest night, no moon night, New Moon – from tomorrow it rises.
@ Posted by: barry | Nov 13 2023 18:43 utc | 118
@ Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Nov 13 2023 16:37 utc | 74
That’s cope of low order Bob try harder.
You do know how barristers present their cases infront of juries and unfriendly judges don’t ya?
I regularly stop listening to him – he is the better than counting sheep to drop off to sleep. Just means I have to start again when I wake up.
@ Posted by: Visitor | Nov 13 2023 16:54 utc | 77
Lol . I’m see what to did there. 🙌
Have fine session at the bar folks.
@ Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Nov 13 2023 17:03 utc | 79
Bob,Bob,Bob – like a duck in a barrel – that’s a total whoosh over your head eh?
Cope harder.
@ Posted by: Hankster | Nov 13 2023 17:46 utc | 94
I don’t know who the fabled mummified great man of the City is and in which secret Masonic room he still sits – Rhodes is one on the list, as is a Cecil or one of his red shield employers maybe the original one?
It was one of the weirdest concept I came across as a youth of Lenin mummified ! Did Stalin love him so much or quite the opposite? I have come to understand it was the latter when learning how the Bolsheviks were wholly funded by the Banking Cabal that formed the Fed and had been nurtured for decades in Vienna and London and US.
@ Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 18:18 utc | 105
Lol – have you just arrived on the planet sucker? You do know the Ashkenazis /khazars are NOT the ancient semites of the Levant, they NEVER were.
What do you think all the secret genetic labs dotted around Russia and China and in Africa are about?
What do you think Gain of Function is about?
You also must know that not all subcontinentals are not genetically the same – they not only have different physical features as well wholly different languages – which take tens of thousands of years to develop.
@ Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
“As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden..”
It’s normal for a surrender to be taken in the vanquished country isn’t it?
The disappointment will be turned to celebration in SF, ain’t that where China Town has been the oldest settlement?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 13 2023 19:31 utc | 264

As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
Me, too. It had seemed to me that the arc of G7 press corpse insanity, ever so familiar, lo, these several DECADES had to climax into a nicotine swoon after China withdrew all effort to stimulate, ahem, reflection within G7 offices on all their “wrong” attitudes toward international cooperation. If were Xi, I would have cut losses, when Don Cheeto exited the room. (At least he went to Beijing.) If not then, after the RU state visit, certainly when Modi went full retard over BRICS “expansion”.
BUT, I accept that although I have a high tolerance for stupid, Lao Xi has a higher threshold. That’s why I am not a premier whose prudence benefits from a thousand advisors; he is. Besides, contrary to westworld polemic, China holds several, indisputable advantages compared to the “Atlantic Council” in every measure of political economy. (Some days I regret not immigrating, when I had the opportunity 20 years ago to choose between US, CN, and DE.) Chinese ppl can be charitable. This is their strength in all endeavors—”people-to-people” as they say.
My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.
I sympathize. I’ve been holding out hope that Xi will pull a Borrell at the 11th hour.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:32 utc | 265

As a Chinese diaspora, I am very disappointed by Xi’s decision to attend the San Francisco APEC meeting and meet Biden on the side.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 13 2023 18:39 utc | 115
Me, too. It had seemed to me that the arc of G7 press corpse insanity, ever so familiar, lo, these several DECADES had to climax into a nicotine swoon after China withdrew all effort to stimulate, ahem, reflection within G7 offices on all their “wrong” attitudes toward international cooperation. If were Xi, I would have cut losses, when Don Cheeto exited the room. (At least he went to Beijing.) If not then, after the RU state visit, certainly when Modi went full retard over BRICS “expansion”.
BUT, I accept that although I have a high tolerance for stupid, Lao Xi has a higher threshold. That’s why I am not a premier whose prudence benefits from a thousand advisors; he is. Besides, contrary to westworld polemic, China holds several, indisputable advantages compared to the “Atlantic Council” in every measure of political economy. (Some days I regret not immigrating, when I had the opportunity 20 years ago to choose between US, CN, and DE.) Chinese ppl can be charitable. This is their strength in all endeavors—”people-to-people” as they say.
My disappointment reflects the popular sentiment of China’s netizens.
I sympathize. I’ve been holding out hope that Xi will pull a Borrell at the 11th hour.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:32 utc | 266

errata: “full retard”
My apologies. No traumatic ableism intended. Please, read “neurodivergent”.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:35 utc | 267

errata: “full retard”
My apologies. No traumatic ableism intended. Please, read “neurodivergent”.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:35 utc | 268

Some hard reality’s.
We wonderd who was REALIY running America these last several years.
I think we can now clearly see the answer…
The jews are running America and britain both.
Two political partys in each country.
Like backing both horses in a two horse race.
Anyone brave enough to deny it ?
By their deeds ye shall know them.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 19:41 utc | 269

Some hard reality’s.
We wonderd who was REALIY running America these last several years.
I think we can now clearly see the answer…
The jews are running America and britain both.
Two political partys in each country.
Like backing both horses in a two horse race.
Anyone brave enough to deny it ?
By their deeds ye shall know them.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 13 2023 19:41 utc | 270

anon @ 135
I only recently came across the Antarctica tales. Any idea where that comes from? If it omes from a single source salesman, he is good at the job.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 13 2023 19:41 utc | 271

anon @ 135
I only recently came across the Antarctica tales. Any idea where that comes from? If it omes from a single source salesman, he is good at the job.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 13 2023 19:41 utc | 272

Posted by: Roger | Nov 13 2023 19:37 utc | 140
Acknowledged. I just thought it was a pretty funny topic, good for a drinking night of one-ups.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 19:48 utc | 275

Posted by: Roger | Nov 13 2023 19:37 utc | 140
Acknowledged. I just thought it was a pretty funny topic, good for a drinking night of one-ups.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 13 2023 19:48 utc | 276

Islam = Hamas
if this is true
} then
Islam wants to kill all Jews and Christians and rule the world
Posted by: Phil | Nov 13 2023 19:50 utc | 145
IF not true, then ….
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:54 utc | 277

Islam = Hamas
if this is true
} then
Islam wants to kill all Jews and Christians and rule the world
Posted by: Phil | Nov 13 2023 19:50 utc | 145
IF not true, then ….
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 19:54 utc | 278

As I have said, the larger fight will occur in the disposition of Gaza, the West Bank and retaining Jerusalem as an international city. Netanyahu and Blinken are openly at odds, with Netanyahu indicating that Israeli security is paramount (over the lives of Palestinians) and while Israeli will not technically occupy Gaza, it will be back to status quo ante, with nothing and no one entering or departing except through Israeli checkpoint. With Israel having any and all privileges of mowing the lawn any time it appears politically expedient; or using Palestinians as experimental subjects upon which to test new and more damaging weaponry. But, but – Palestine – divided though it is, has been officially instantiated by several United Nations declaration as an independent state. This appears to have been forgotten since it has has been treated as though fully and completely occupied by US/IS, With additional significant territorial erosion on the West Bank. As Rove says, the US/IS create their own reality and move on to create additional realities irrespective of any and all national or international laws. Hezbollah, the Arab and Persian coalition, ASEAN, and the BRICS+ would be predicted to fight this intensely on a number of legal fronts which are already aligning themselves. No one wants to move into World War III since that would eclipse this issue which is not only paramount to world peace, but also if returned to status quo ante leaves Israel/US to simply continue the genocide in Gaza and the West Bank. The battle for Palestinian independence is best fought when Israel, the US, UK, NATO are financially, militarily and politically on the ropes – all signs point to that being a probable outcome. The economic and political cracks are fully evident at this time – and growing larger as each additional/new war crime plays out on social media, portrayed in ever horrifying graphics of dead children and women torn limb from limb (those bombs armed with blades that easily but painfully cut through bone and tissue, can easily decapitate a human being – straight from US army to Israel) and children and women burned alive with white phosphorus, or worse yet still alive with deep, life threatening burns, but every burn unit in Gaza has been destroyed so they live for some time in excruciating pain. After these scenes – all inflicted by Israel/US, all of the many aligned against those states are going to use the ICC, the UN and more important the court of public opinion to free Palestine, returning it to prescribed 1967 borders under democratically elected leaders. This will be an intense, and probably one of the last fights of Israel and the dying hegemon.

Posted by: abierno | Nov 13 2023 19:58 utc | 279

As I have said, the larger fight will occur in the disposition of Gaza, the West Bank and retaining Jerusalem as an international city. Netanyahu and Blinken are openly at odds, with Netanyahu indicating that Israeli security is paramount (over the lives of Palestinians) and while Israeli will not technically occupy Gaza, it will be back to status quo ante, with nothing and no one entering or departing except through Israeli checkpoint. With Israel having any and all privileges of mowing the lawn any time it appears politically expedient; or using Palestinians as experimental subjects upon which to test new and more damaging weaponry. But, but – Palestine – divided though it is, has been officially instantiated by several United Nations declaration as an independent state. This appears to have been forgotten since it has has been treated as though fully and completely occupied by US/IS, With additional significant territorial erosion on the West Bank. As Rove says, the US/IS create their own reality and move on to create additional realities irrespective of any and all national or international laws. Hezbollah, the Arab and Persian coalition, ASEAN, and the BRICS+ would be predicted to fight this intensely on a number of legal fronts which are already aligning themselves. No one wants to move into World War III since that would eclipse this issue which is not only paramount to world peace, but also if returned to status quo ante leaves Israel/US to simply continue the genocide in Gaza and the West Bank. The battle for Palestinian independence is best fought when Israel, the US, UK, NATO are financially, militarily and politically on the ropes – all signs point to that being a probable outcome. The economic and political cracks are fully evident at this time – and growing larger as each additional/new war crime plays out on social media, portrayed in ever horrifying graphics of dead children and women torn limb from limb (those bombs armed with blades that easily but painfully cut through bone and tissue, can easily decapitate a human being – straight from US army to Israel) and children and women burned alive with white phosphorus, or worse yet still alive with deep, life threatening burns, but every burn unit in Gaza has been destroyed so they live for some time in excruciating pain. After these scenes – all inflicted by Israel/US, all of the many aligned against those states are going to use the ICC, the UN and more important the court of public opinion to free Palestine, returning it to prescribed 1967 borders under democratically elected leaders. This will be an intense, and probably one of the last fights of Israel and the dying hegemon.

Posted by: abierno | Nov 13 2023 19:58 utc | 280

…. in SF, ain’t that where China Town has been the oldest settlement?
Posted by: DunGroanin…….
In that part of Northern California, the first settlements were Russia Orthodox. Juilianna can illuminate 🙂

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:59 utc | 281

…. in SF, ain’t that where China Town has been the oldest settlement?
Posted by: DunGroanin…….
In that part of Northern California, the first settlements were Russia Orthodox. Juilianna can illuminate 🙂

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 19:59 utc | 282

There’s thing about liars, they can’t keep their stories straight. Hence, one’s duty to retreat from stupid and inevitable death or dismemberment.
EU official apologizes for Borrell’s remarks – Politico

…The distinction matters, according to Politico, because the singular term could be interpreted as calling for a longer ceasefire—something several EU countries, including Germany, Austria, and the Czech Republic, are explicitly avoiding as they fear it will be perceived by Israel as a challenge to its right to “self-defense.”…

Of “pauses,” “humantarian pause,” “fighting pauses,” and 4-hour pauses
Axel Springer | Jungle Josep Borrell: The EU’s undiplomatic top diplomat

…A top official from the European External Action Service, the EU’s diplomatic arm, had to go and explain to the member states why Borrell announced there was consensus among EU countries when that was not the case, according to three EU diplomats granted anonymity to discuss the secretive talks.
That top official was Stefano Sannino, the secretary-general of the EEAS, who spoke during a meeting of ambassadors following the foreign affairs ministers’ meeting.
One of the EU diplomats mentioned above described Sannino’s intervention as “a way to apologize” for Borrell’s remarks while the two other diplomats cast it more as an explanation than a full apology. …

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 20:09 utc | 283

There’s thing about liars, they can’t keep their stories straight. Hence, one’s duty to retreat from stupid and inevitable death or dismemberment.
EU official apologizes for Borrell’s remarks – Politico

…The distinction matters, according to Politico, because the singular term could be interpreted as calling for a longer ceasefire—something several EU countries, including Germany, Austria, and the Czech Republic, are explicitly avoiding as they fear it will be perceived by Israel as a challenge to its right to “self-defense.”…

Of “pauses,” “humantarian pause,” “fighting pauses,” and 4-hour pauses
Axel Springer | Jungle Josep Borrell: The EU’s undiplomatic top diplomat

…A top official from the European External Action Service, the EU’s diplomatic arm, had to go and explain to the member states why Borrell announced there was consensus among EU countries when that was not the case, according to three EU diplomats granted anonymity to discuss the secretive talks.
That top official was Stefano Sannino, the secretary-general of the EEAS, who spoke during a meeting of ambassadors following the foreign affairs ministers’ meeting.
One of the EU diplomats mentioned above described Sannino’s intervention as “a way to apologize” for Borrell’s remarks while the two other diplomats cast it more as an explanation than a full apology. …

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 20:09 utc | 284

…..to free Palestine, returning it to prescribed 1967 borders under democratically elected leade……
You meant to wrote 1947 borders

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 20:11 utc | 285

…..to free Palestine, returning it to prescribed 1967 borders under democratically elected leade……
You meant to wrote 1947 borders

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 20:11 utc | 286

“safe passages,” truces, cease-fires, “Korea-like” stalemates FKA armistices and KIRBY-content that would

ratify [INSERT MILITAN]’s conquest to date

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 20:19 utc | 287

“safe passages,” truces, cease-fires, “Korea-like” stalemates FKA armistices and KIRBY-content that would

ratify [INSERT MILITAN]’s conquest to date

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 13 2023 20:19 utc | 288

@Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
@Flying Dutchman | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 116
Here’s a little something to add to that mix, reported last October by Wired….
23andMe User Data Stolen in Targeted Attack on Ashkenazi Jews
At least a million data points from 23andMe accounts appear to have been exposed on BreachForums. While the scale of the campaign is unknown, 23andMe says it’s working to verify the data.

Posted by: majoab | Nov 13 2023 20:20 utc | 289

@Exile | Nov 13 2023 18:03 utc | 102
@Flying Dutchman | Nov 13 2023 18:40 utc | 116
Here’s a little something to add to that mix, reported last October by Wired….
23andMe User Data Stolen in Targeted Attack on Ashkenazi Jews
At least a million data points from 23andMe accounts appear to have been exposed on BreachForums. While the scale of the campaign is unknown, 23andMe says it’s working to verify the data.

Posted by: majoab | Nov 13 2023 20:20 utc | 290

Alastair Crooke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwC51FwItGM
A few points he makes.
Israel can only continue for a few more weeks. Hamas is virtually untouched. West bank Palestinian authority is a Vichy leadership/government – collaborators.
…….
The death and destruction in Gaza after a few more weeks of Israeli carpet bombing, deliberate targeting of civilians, deliberate targeting of UN facilities and reporters will be terrible. But to me, Israel has also destroyed itself. The blame for this lays squarely with our western governments as they are the enablers.
As far as the world goes, there will be no going back to prior to this very open and public genocide. What the final outcome will I cannot really picture. The coordinated strategy of RoW led by Russia and China appears to be aligned against the main enabler, the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 13 2023 20:20 utc | 291

Alastair Crooke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwC51FwItGM
A few points he makes.
Israel can only continue for a few more weeks. Hamas is virtually untouched. West bank Palestinian authority is a Vichy leadership/government – collaborators.
…….
The death and destruction in Gaza after a few more weeks of Israeli carpet bombing, deliberate targeting of civilians, deliberate targeting of UN facilities and reporters will be terrible. But to me, Israel has also destroyed itself. The blame for this lays squarely with our western governments as they are the enablers.
As far as the world goes, there will be no going back to prior to this very open and public genocide. What the final outcome will I cannot really picture. The coordinated strategy of RoW led by Russia and China appears to be aligned against the main enabler, the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 13 2023 20:20 utc | 292

Cameron’s “piggate” qualification indeed for any modern western politician , sure beats kids and bribery.
https://independenttribune.com/news/nation-world/israel-hamas-war-economy-mideast-netanyahu-vision/article_2f55f023-3675-5634-bc15-2ca50b59b614.html
These articles are starting to appear. I did note the 200 billion foreign reserves part . Then it goes on to talk usa funding and the needs of a war economy. Bemoaning the lost income from the stolen gas fields. As noted previously destroy the main energy storage and production of Israel and there’s not much else holding it together than usa graft.

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 13 2023 20:24 utc | 293

Cameron’s “piggate” qualification indeed for any modern western politician , sure beats kids and bribery.
https://independenttribune.com/news/nation-world/israel-hamas-war-economy-mideast-netanyahu-vision/article_2f55f023-3675-5634-bc15-2ca50b59b614.html
These articles are starting to appear. I did note the 200 billion foreign reserves part . Then it goes on to talk usa funding and the needs of a war economy. Bemoaning the lost income from the stolen gas fields. As noted previously destroy the main energy storage and production of Israel and there’s not much else holding it together than usa graft.

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 13 2023 20:24 utc | 294

A Nov. 3 poll found 76% of Israelis want Netanyahu to resign. On Nov. 7, a leading pro-Netanyahu newspaper reversed its stance and ran an editorial calling for his ouster after the war. Polls taken last month show Netanyahu would lose if elections were held now. (NPR)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 20:26 utc | 295

A Nov. 3 poll found 76% of Israelis want Netanyahu to resign. On Nov. 7, a leading pro-Netanyahu newspaper reversed its stance and ran an editorial calling for his ouster after the war. Polls taken last month show Netanyahu would lose if elections were held now. (NPR)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 13 2023 20:26 utc | 296

Too many burnt out IDF APCs and other Armour to count.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/2C9Wd8SpuGg5sgrOSYLHm-0gSmCL8P85ZEw2K89htk5J8W8VfcN2W-88sxvXg4KHzcnPkVvhJzOYWic=s1080-v1-nd

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 20:27 utc | 297

Too many burnt out IDF APCs and other Armour to count.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/2C9Wd8SpuGg5sgrOSYLHm-0gSmCL8P85ZEw2K89htk5J8W8VfcN2W-88sxvXg4KHzcnPkVvhJzOYWic=s1080-v1-nd

Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2023 20:27 utc | 298

Hi b,
Did you cover possibilità of israeli frindly Fire on isr civilians during
7oct (?) Facts? Posted by: Mry | Nov 13 2023 19:28 utc | 134
B has posted links on this before, although “friendly fire” is generally describing when the incident occurred accidentally, which was not apparently the case for at least some of what happened on 10/7. That said, we may never know exactly what happened, but the reports are convincing. Many, if not most, of the sources noted in the Grayzone piece are Israeli. FWIW.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 13 2023 20:28 utc | 299

Hi b,
Did you cover possibilità of israeli frindly Fire on isr civilians during
7oct (?) Facts? Posted by: Mry | Nov 13 2023 19:28 utc | 134
B has posted links on this before, although “friendly fire” is generally describing when the incident occurred accidentally, which was not apparently the case for at least some of what happened on 10/7. That said, we may never know exactly what happened, but the reports are convincing. Many, if not most, of the sources noted in the Grayzone piece are Israeli. FWIW.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 13 2023 20:28 utc | 300