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November 3, 2023
Nasrallah Speech On Gaza

Speech by Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah during the ceremony honoring the martyrs on the road to Al-Quds (as noted down incompletely while listening to AlJazeerah's live translation):

Congratulation to those in Lebanon, Gaza and West Bank who have fallen in the fight since October 7.

Condolence and blessing to their relatives, condolence to the people of Gaza and the West Bank.

Four issues were caused by the stupid Israeli government:

  • Thousands of Palestinian are prisoners of Israel.
  • Al Aqsa and what has been happening there before October 7.
  • Unjust siege of 2 million people for more than 17 years in an open concentration camp in Gaza.
  • Expanding settlements in the West Bank.

The world and its organizations were silent about those points. This while the enemy had become more ferocious and extreme.

A big even was needed to refocus the world: the glorious al-Aqsa Flood operation of October 7.

It was to 100% a Palestinian operation. They were silent and did not tell anyone, not even their allies.

The operation proves that decisions of the resistance factions are in the hands of the respective leaders. The Islamic Republic of Iran had no say in this.

No matter what the enemy has done and will do it can not influence the future and history of what happened and will happen. The operations has shown the fragility of the enemy.

The U.S. and EU government and media have run to the help of the Israelis. Is Israel a strong state with an invincible army when it needs so much support?

It shows that the operation was wise, prudent and successful.

Israel politicians and military were slow to response. They killed their own people during the operations. Testimony from enemy media is showing that those who say Hamas killed civilians during the operation are wrong.

Now they want to annihilate Hamas. That is impossible. They want the hostages back. This will never happen without negotiations.

The 2006 war in Lebanon has proven that. The same will happen in Gaza.

The Israeli army are proving their inability. It destroys thousands of houses and kills thousands of civilians. Is that what an invincible army would do?

By killing innocent civilians you will not gain anything. It only proves the brutal nature of the Zionist regime.

The western media are telling lies about beheaded children. No evidence was produced. But they are silent about what happens in Gaza.

It is the United States that stands in the way of a ceasefire in Gaza. As Khomeni said, it is the greatest devil -  from Hiroshima, to Vietnam to now in Gaza. It must be held responsible for that and should pay the price for that.

Everyone (in the resistance) in all neighboring countries must live up to their responsibility (and attack the U.S.).

The war in Gaza is not just battle. It is decisive event and will change history. We should all do our duty.

The goals are:

  • to end the war in Gaza,
  • to support Hamas in its victory.

It must be a triumph for all people in the region. It is in the interest of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.

Arab and Muslim states must work on the prime goal. Condemnation statements are not enough. Boycott them (Israel and U.S.), refuse relations. Cut off oil supplies oil and gas from Israel.

No Arab state can deliver even a truck of goods to Gaza. Are they incapable of acting? No, they should listen to their people and wake up.

We had no knowledge of the Al-Aqsa flood. But on the very next day we started daily operations against Israel. What is taking place on our front is important.

Those who think that Hizbullah should wage total war on Israel – they should look at what is taking place on the Lebanese front. It is unprecedented. It will increase. All of Israel's positions are under siege. It is a different battle than in 2006 in tactics and weapons.

On the border line since October 7 the Israeli army moved out. It pulled all troops to the Gaza front. It called up reserves. Our operations keep the Israeli's army at our front and away from Gaza. A third of the Israeli army is now at our border line. Half of its navy is dedicated to our front. A quarter of its air force is. Half of its Iron Dome missiles. Forty three settlements were evacuated.

If the enemy starts to take action against Lebanon it will be its biggest mistake. 

Even as civilians had to move out our best fighters will stay in the south.

They told us that the U.S. would bomb us. I assure you that it did not change our position. The operation on our front will continue. Any escalation will depend on development of events in Gaza.

Any preemptive attack on Lebanon will be responded to. A civilian killed in Lebanon means a civilian will be killed in Israel. All options on our front are on the table.  They can be executed anytime.

To the Americans: it is pointless to threaten us. Your fleet in the Mediterranean can not cause us to fear. Remember your defeat in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan.

To the whole world: In the name of the civilians, in the name of the bombed churches and mosques, you have to intervene to end the war in Gaza.

No matter of what our sacrifices are, we should be steadfast. Palestine will win.

We celebrate our fallen fighters. We celebrate the victory of Gaza.

-End of Nasrallah speech-

Probably better than the above was the more extensive live blogging done by L'orient today.

You may also want to read the spot-on preview of the speech as it was given earlier today by Elijah Magnier:

What is the role expected of Hezbollah in the Gaza war?

Posted by b on November 3, 2023 at 14:37 UTC | Permalink
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above post was response to …. juliania | Nov 4 2023 0:02 utc | 253

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 2:51 utc | 601

above post was response to …. juliania | Nov 4 2023 0:02 utc | 253

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 2:51 utc | 602

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 2:50 utc | 299
It’s “en masse.” I whole-heartedly concur.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:58 utc | 603

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 2:50 utc | 299
It’s “en masse.” I whole-heartedly concur.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:58 utc | 604

@ Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:47 utc | 297
With each passing day this seems increasingly likely. One can however still ask whether this is Russia’s problem to solve. Maybe, but the states that created and fostered the problem — US, UK — bear infinitely greater responsibility.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2023 3:16 utc | 605

@ Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:47 utc | 297
With each passing day this seems increasingly likely. One can however still ask whether this is Russia’s problem to solve. Maybe, but the states that created and fostered the problem — US, UK — bear infinitely greater responsibility.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2023 3:16 utc | 606

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2023 2:42 utc | 294
I know, thus I said what I said. The kike mafia will murder every single pally on Earth before Russia dares to do something about it.
Posted by: Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:47 utc | 297
…………..
If that was the case the would be cleaned up in the same way the oligarchs and CIA freedom fighters were.
In one of Putin’s very first speeches on Gaza, He said ‘let the men fight but keep the women and children out of it’. We can see that in Ukraine, the static line on which the Ukraine men are slaughtered by the hundreds and by the thousands day in day out. But very very few Ukraine civilian casualty due to Russian actions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 3:22 utc | 607

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2023 2:42 utc | 294
I know, thus I said what I said. The kike mafia will murder every single pally on Earth before Russia dares to do something about it.
Posted by: Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:47 utc | 297
…………..
If that was the case the would be cleaned up in the same way the oligarchs and CIA freedom fighters were.
In one of Putin’s very first speeches on Gaza, He said ‘let the men fight but keep the women and children out of it’. We can see that in Ukraine, the static line on which the Ukraine men are slaughtered by the hundreds and by the thousands day in day out. But very very few Ukraine civilian casualty due to Russian actions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 3:22 utc | 608

@ Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 3 2023 23:03 utc | 233
This is a better single link to Nazallah’s speech — it starts at the first TG post —
then you just keep scrolling down in order: https://t.me/s/LebUpdate/33849

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 3:33 utc | 609

@ Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 3 2023 23:03 utc | 233
This is a better single link to Nazallah’s speech — it starts at the first TG post —
then you just keep scrolling down in order: https://t.me/s/LebUpdate/33849

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 3:33 utc | 610

Putin and Nasrallah’s speeches are not directed at a Western secular audience. The audience in both cases is the Global South which dwarfs the West in population.
And Nasrallah’s speech is also targeted towards the Ummah both Shia and Sunni, inside and outside of Islamic countries.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2023 17:34 utc | 102
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A truly daft, inane statement.
1. How the hell would you know what “target audience” the speaker (and maybe their speech writer) sat down to compose for? That’s pure self-projection from what YOU thought the words meant. And even if not scripted, do you really think they are thinking as they speak “Oooh, I must/mustn’t say this or that because the global north or west, might get the wrong message! Have you ever scripted a speech? The speaker and their editors agonise over every single word to TRY to make sure they are not misinterpreted by anyone. And yet they always are, because listeners filter and bias their own understandings.
2. Any statesman of any era worth their salt just speaks their truth from inside themself irrespective of where those words might echo. Unless they are speaking to a private, off-camera gathering, they don’t contrive different narratives for different listeners. That’s laughable. Sure, slimy, chameleon, low grade politicians do. Are you suggesting that Putin and Nasrallah are of that calibre?
3. World leaders today know damn well their EVERY word is scrutinised by ALL world media to be fed everywhere they publish. Sure, at some special convention or other, the TOPIC or the CONTEXT might be relevant. But nonetheless it goes out everywhere.
LoveDonbass, I used to think you said well considered, moderate, meaningful things. But of late you’ve become rather preachy and knee-jerky. You’ve lost my respect … not that I’m sure it matters to you at all. Lol.

Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 3:37 utc | 611

Putin and Nasrallah’s speeches are not directed at a Western secular audience. The audience in both cases is the Global South which dwarfs the West in population.
And Nasrallah’s speech is also targeted towards the Ummah both Shia and Sunni, inside and outside of Islamic countries.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2023 17:34 utc | 102
####
A truly daft, inane statement.
1. How the hell would you know what “target audience” the speaker (and maybe their speech writer) sat down to compose for? That’s pure self-projection from what YOU thought the words meant. And even if not scripted, do you really think they are thinking as they speak “Oooh, I must/mustn’t say this or that because the global north or west, might get the wrong message! Have you ever scripted a speech? The speaker and their editors agonise over every single word to TRY to make sure they are not misinterpreted by anyone. And yet they always are, because listeners filter and bias their own understandings.
2. Any statesman of any era worth their salt just speaks their truth from inside themself irrespective of where those words might echo. Unless they are speaking to a private, off-camera gathering, they don’t contrive different narratives for different listeners. That’s laughable. Sure, slimy, chameleon, low grade politicians do. Are you suggesting that Putin and Nasrallah are of that calibre?
3. World leaders today know damn well their EVERY word is scrutinised by ALL world media to be fed everywhere they publish. Sure, at some special convention or other, the TOPIC or the CONTEXT might be relevant. But nonetheless it goes out everywhere.
LoveDonbass, I used to think you said well considered, moderate, meaningful things. But of late you’ve become rather preachy and knee-jerky. You’ve lost my respect … not that I’m sure it matters to you at all. Lol.

Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 3:37 utc | 612

Thanks for the post b.
I so miss the predictions of the upcoming war that was going to happen after Russia was defeated, and routed out of, well you know.
In case you haven’t guessed, I’m referring to the war with China over Taiwan. Say what? Eschatology took care of that? Is this Crescent v. Cross? Eretz v. uh uh?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2023 3:44 utc | 613

Thanks for the post b.
I so miss the predictions of the upcoming war that was going to happen after Russia was defeated, and routed out of, well you know.
In case you haven’t guessed, I’m referring to the war with China over Taiwan. Say what? Eschatology took care of that? Is this Crescent v. Cross? Eretz v. uh uh?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2023 3:44 utc | 614

Poor Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.
Half the world pins their hopes on him.
There they sit, plump asses embedded firmly in their chairs, drooling over their keyboards.
“Ahhh Nasrallah! All Talk No Walk! All Hat No Cattle! He’ll do nuuuuuuthing!” they screech.
As they munch their pizza or biryani or burritos.
He’s not like Biden who merely mumbles a few words and behold! A hundred billion paper notes appear out of thin air for a war of your choice!
He’s not like Putin who merely winks an eye and behold a hundred thousand artillery shells appear from nowhere!
He’s not like MBS, who, with a gentle burp behind a perfumed hand expels a trillion barrels of oil into the world!
No, all Nasrallah has in his hand is a long, tattered scrap of paper with a list of names …
What names, you may ask?
The names of Lebanese children, women, men …
And with every action Nasrallah takes he must carefully consider which names to cross out on his tattered, bloody list:
Is it you, Abdel-Fatteh? You have a son, a daughter … Must I bet your life, for perhaps 3 Zionists?
No, this is too tragic.
Then what about you Mohammed Abdu-Rahman? You are a young man, single, your parents long deceased. Yes, you are betrothed, but she will endure the pain.
Your life perhaps? For ten of the enemy?
Poor Sheikh Nasrallah, every purchase and every gamble he takes must be paid in blood.
No gold in his hands.
No dollars.
No steaming factories, engines of war.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 3:46 utc | 615

Poor Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.
Half the world pins their hopes on him.
There they sit, plump asses embedded firmly in their chairs, drooling over their keyboards.
“Ahhh Nasrallah! All Talk No Walk! All Hat No Cattle! He’ll do nuuuuuuthing!” they screech.
As they munch their pizza or biryani or burritos.
He’s not like Biden who merely mumbles a few words and behold! A hundred billion paper notes appear out of thin air for a war of your choice!
He’s not like Putin who merely winks an eye and behold a hundred thousand artillery shells appear from nowhere!
He’s not like MBS, who, with a gentle burp behind a perfumed hand expels a trillion barrels of oil into the world!
No, all Nasrallah has in his hand is a long, tattered scrap of paper with a list of names …
What names, you may ask?
The names of Lebanese children, women, men …
And with every action Nasrallah takes he must carefully consider which names to cross out on his tattered, bloody list:
Is it you, Abdel-Fatteh? You have a son, a daughter … Must I bet your life, for perhaps 3 Zionists?
No, this is too tragic.
Then what about you Mohammed Abdu-Rahman? You are a young man, single, your parents long deceased. Yes, you are betrothed, but she will endure the pain.
Your life perhaps? For ten of the enemy?
Poor Sheikh Nasrallah, every purchase and every gamble he takes must be paid in blood.
No gold in his hands.
No dollars.
No steaming factories, engines of war.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 3:46 utc | 616

re unimperator | Nov 4 2023 0:10 utc | 256
“According to Larry Johnson, a lot of US soldiers are dying in various base strikes in Syria and Iraq but Pentagon keeps a tight lid on the subject. Even tonight Iraq resistance claimed drone strikes on two bases.”
I read Johnson from time to time, and was just over there, but can’t find the article where he says this. I have no reason to doubt it at all!
Death by a Thousand Cuts.
I don’t doubt that the US political and military Elites are starting to get the message that the Axis is in it for the long run, it’s not afraid, it’s very very well armed, and it’s certainly not going away, especially obvious after Nasrallah’s speech today
but heck, more Latin American nations are cutting relations and recalling their ambassadors from israel (Bolivia, Chile, Colombia) than in the goddamn Arab nations. Brazil even accused israel of committing war crimes. what the hell gives there, anyway, with the Arab leaders?
btw, LA Times write, “Other Latin American countries, including Argentina and Brazil, have also increased their criticism of the impact that Israel’s military operations are having on civilians.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 4 2023 4:07 utc | 617

re unimperator | Nov 4 2023 0:10 utc | 256
“According to Larry Johnson, a lot of US soldiers are dying in various base strikes in Syria and Iraq but Pentagon keeps a tight lid on the subject. Even tonight Iraq resistance claimed drone strikes on two bases.”
I read Johnson from time to time, and was just over there, but can’t find the article where he says this. I have no reason to doubt it at all!
Death by a Thousand Cuts.
I don’t doubt that the US political and military Elites are starting to get the message that the Axis is in it for the long run, it’s not afraid, it’s very very well armed, and it’s certainly not going away, especially obvious after Nasrallah’s speech today
but heck, more Latin American nations are cutting relations and recalling their ambassadors from israel (Bolivia, Chile, Colombia) than in the goddamn Arab nations. Brazil even accused israel of committing war crimes. what the hell gives there, anyway, with the Arab leaders?
btw, LA Times write, “Other Latin American countries, including Argentina and Brazil, have also increased their criticism of the impact that Israel’s military operations are having on civilians.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 4 2023 4:07 utc | 618

Hutch 308, 309 Fatwa against hamas
When I Google “Fatwa against hamas”, I do not get a March 2023 Fatwa. Rather, I get:
Fatwa Signed By Dozens Of Clerics, Nine Islamic Groups, Calls For Jihad Against Israel, Expresses Support For Hamas, October 25, 2023.

Posted by: Alchemist | Nov 4 2023 4:38 utc | 619

Hutch 308, 309 Fatwa against hamas
When I Google “Fatwa against hamas”, I do not get a March 2023 Fatwa. Rather, I get:
Fatwa Signed By Dozens Of Clerics, Nine Islamic Groups, Calls For Jihad Against Israel, Expresses Support For Hamas, October 25, 2023.

Posted by: Alchemist | Nov 4 2023 4:38 utc | 620

LoveDonbass, I used to think you said well considered, moderate, meaningful things.
Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 3:37 utc | 305
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To err is human, to forgive divine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2023 5:01 utc | 621

LoveDonbass, I used to think you said well considered, moderate, meaningful things.
Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 3:37 utc | 305
##################
To err is human, to forgive divine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2023 5:01 utc | 622

“According to Larry Johnson, a lot of US soldiers are dying in various base strikes in Syria and Iraq but Pentagon keeps a tight lid on the subject. Even tonight Iraq resistance claimed drone strikes on two bases.”
I read Johnson from time to time, and was just over there, but can’t find the article where he says this.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 4 2023 4:07 utc | 310
Said on the Napolitano show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3a7lQuOVM

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 4 2023 5:13 utc | 623

“According to Larry Johnson, a lot of US soldiers are dying in various base strikes in Syria and Iraq but Pentagon keeps a tight lid on the subject. Even tonight Iraq resistance claimed drone strikes on two bases.”
I read Johnson from time to time, and was just over there, but can’t find the article where he says this.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 4 2023 4:07 utc | 310
Said on the Napolitano show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3a7lQuOVM

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 4 2023 5:13 utc | 624

So, very popular with the Hezbollah is the story of the white and black bulls and the lion.
Lion tries to attack and eat both bulls, but together, they were capable of fighting off said lion. One day, the lion changed tack and convinced the white bull that it was safe as long it could eat the black bull. Sure enough, the white bull didn’t come to the black’s rescue. After some time, the lion was hungry again and broke its promise to the white bull.
Moral of the story is, the white bull was as good as dead when the lion killed the black.
Hez(boll)ah knows its the white bull in this story. (See b’s link to this story)
And now this, “We are all Amaleks”
https://rumble.com/v3tabed-we-are-all-amalek-with-dr.-e.-michael-jones.html

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2023 5:15 utc | 625

So, very popular with the Hezbollah is the story of the white and black bulls and the lion.
Lion tries to attack and eat both bulls, but together, they were capable of fighting off said lion. One day, the lion changed tack and convinced the white bull that it was safe as long it could eat the black bull. Sure enough, the white bull didn’t come to the black’s rescue. After some time, the lion was hungry again and broke its promise to the white bull.
Moral of the story is, the white bull was as good as dead when the lion killed the black.
Hez(boll)ah knows its the white bull in this story. (See b’s link to this story)
And now this, “We are all Amaleks”
https://rumble.com/v3tabed-we-are-all-amalek-with-dr.-e.-michael-jones.html

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2023 5:15 utc | 626

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2023 5:15 utc | 316
This analogy pretty much represents the Middle East in microcosm.
The rest of the non-Western world as well (India and Russia too).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 5:20 utc | 627

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2023 5:15 utc | 316
This analogy pretty much represents the Middle East in microcosm.
The rest of the non-Western world as well (India and Russia too).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 5:20 utc | 628

juliania@253…..who will validate Palestinian Statehood? Who will guarantee their safety? Are they entitled to the same ‘security’ apparatus as the Apartheid Occupiers? Had they that from the beginning, would we be here today? There is no fairy tale, the wisdom of a Solomon, where squatters might wish to split a country, while the indigenous might chose to keep the country whole, shared by all. So please, to even contemplate a Palestinian State, a country controlled by Colonial Settlers, have you read their vision for the Palestinian State; jack booted by squatting thugs? Check it out when you have the time. Sorry I answered your question with more questions, been that kind of day.
Cheers M
btw….some great vids of Rabbis floating around, watched two different ones, quite rational, calling for a One State solution, end of story. Share the land…..oh, and they want to call it Palestine…..oy Vey!

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2023 5:27 utc | 629

juliania@253…..who will validate Palestinian Statehood? Who will guarantee their safety? Are they entitled to the same ‘security’ apparatus as the Apartheid Occupiers? Had they that from the beginning, would we be here today? There is no fairy tale, the wisdom of a Solomon, where squatters might wish to split a country, while the indigenous might chose to keep the country whole, shared by all. So please, to even contemplate a Palestinian State, a country controlled by Colonial Settlers, have you read their vision for the Palestinian State; jack booted by squatting thugs? Check it out when you have the time. Sorry I answered your question with more questions, been that kind of day.
Cheers M
btw….some great vids of Rabbis floating around, watched two different ones, quite rational, calling for a One State solution, end of story. Share the land…..oh, and they want to call it Palestine…..oy Vey!

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2023 5:27 utc | 630

I have just registered here and want to applaud and congratulate you on your information dissemination.
This is the first place I found the transcript of the Hezbollah leader’s speech. It seems pretty sensible to me, from his point of view.
Please keep up this good work.

Posted by: Moruya23 | Nov 4 2023 5:48 utc | 631

I have just registered here and want to applaud and congratulate you on your information dissemination.
This is the first place I found the transcript of the Hezbollah leader’s speech. It seems pretty sensible to me, from his point of view.
Please keep up this good work.

Posted by: Moruya23 | Nov 4 2023 5:48 utc | 632

The Al-Aqsa Flood. Point number 1. The name should tell you what Hamas’ objectives are. The Israeli incursions into the Al-Aqsa mosque must stop. As it is, they have been condones or encouraged. 2) Also the Palestinian prisoners should be released, which is why the hostages are held. That is not an impossible demand. Something similar has been done time and time again between by countries other than Israel. Instead Israeli propaganda drowns out the Palestinian voice and pretends to speak for them, demonizing them in the vein of: Muslims want to kill us all. 3) The pedantic quibbling about Shias and Sunnis misses the point that Al-Aqsa is holy for all Muslims (and no, that does not mean that Iran was behind the attack). 4) Aaron Maté also said yesterday that Hamas accepted the two-state solution. I tend to trust him. Is it true?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 6:10 utc | 633

The Al-Aqsa Flood. Point number 1. The name should tell you what Hamas’ objectives are. The Israeli incursions into the Al-Aqsa mosque must stop. As it is, they have been condones or encouraged. 2) Also the Palestinian prisoners should be released, which is why the hostages are held. That is not an impossible demand. Something similar has been done time and time again between by countries other than Israel. Instead Israeli propaganda drowns out the Palestinian voice and pretends to speak for them, demonizing them in the vein of: Muslims want to kill us all. 3) The pedantic quibbling about Shias and Sunnis misses the point that Al-Aqsa is holy for all Muslims (and no, that does not mean that Iran was behind the attack). 4) Aaron Maté also said yesterday that Hamas accepted the two-state solution. I tend to trust him. Is it true?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 6:10 utc | 634

To the Elohim and Allah. Lha are Gods in Tibetan. Elohim are also plural.

Posted by: Shshakyam | Nov 4 2023 6:26 utc | 635

To the Elohim and Allah. Lha are Gods in Tibetan. Elohim are also plural.

Posted by: Shshakyam | Nov 4 2023 6:26 utc | 636

To err is human, to forgive divine.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2023 5:01 utc | 313
Lol. Nothing to do with anyone’s forgiveness (or erring). So am I to “forgive” you (like a god!) and then we go on our merry way erring, forgiving, erring, forgiving, ad infinitum, till the Second Coming without any learning? It’s simply to do with your own awareness and thinking a bit more sensibly before you spout superficial, clichéd nonsense. What’s wrong with a simple human, *non-religious* response like — “Yeah Sandy, you’re probably right, it was a pretty superficial post” … not that I care to be told I’m right. It’s more important for YOUR soul relationship with your god that you can be humble enough to admit you learned something from another than to drop some biblical quotation suggesting that THEY learn forgiveness. That’s exactly what I meant by your preachyness.

Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 6:33 utc | 637

To err is human, to forgive divine.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2023 5:01 utc | 313
Lol. Nothing to do with anyone’s forgiveness (or erring). So am I to “forgive” you (like a god!) and then we go on our merry way erring, forgiving, erring, forgiving, ad infinitum, till the Second Coming without any learning? It’s simply to do with your own awareness and thinking a bit more sensibly before you spout superficial, clichéd nonsense. What’s wrong with a simple human, *non-religious* response like — “Yeah Sandy, you’re probably right, it was a pretty superficial post” … not that I care to be told I’m right. It’s more important for YOUR soul relationship with your god that you can be humble enough to admit you learned something from another than to drop some biblical quotation suggesting that THEY learn forgiveness. That’s exactly what I meant by your preachyness.

Posted by: Sandy Freeman | Nov 4 2023 6:33 utc | 638

I think the escalating attack on civilians in Gaza, each more horrendous that the one before, has a strategic objective. They are risking condemnation from the whole world to attain that objective. The objective is to provoke a substantial military offensive by Hezbollah or Iran so that a regional war can be started. The pressure on Hezbollah and Iran to do something. The war will provide an opportunity for the west to inflict deep wounds on their foes in the region and deflect attention from Palestine in the ensuing fog of war.
Of course, each day more and more Palestinians are dying and being maimed. We want this suffering to stop as soon as possible. We want somebody to militarily stop this since Israel and the US and Europe are deaf to humanitarian pleas. But an attack by Hezbollah, Iran or somebody else is not going to stop this carnage immediately. It may even become easier for Israel to obliterate Gaza entirely in the fog of the regional war. Loyalties and positions will become more scattered and Israel will be off the hook, yet again.

Posted by: Jhaji | Nov 4 2023 6:48 utc | 639

I think the escalating attack on civilians in Gaza, each more horrendous that the one before, has a strategic objective. They are risking condemnation from the whole world to attain that objective. The objective is to provoke a substantial military offensive by Hezbollah or Iran so that a regional war can be started. The pressure on Hezbollah and Iran to do something. The war will provide an opportunity for the west to inflict deep wounds on their foes in the region and deflect attention from Palestine in the ensuing fog of war.
Of course, each day more and more Palestinians are dying and being maimed. We want this suffering to stop as soon as possible. We want somebody to militarily stop this since Israel and the US and Europe are deaf to humanitarian pleas. But an attack by Hezbollah, Iran or somebody else is not going to stop this carnage immediately. It may even become easier for Israel to obliterate Gaza entirely in the fog of the regional war. Loyalties and positions will become more scattered and Israel will be off the hook, yet again.

Posted by: Jhaji | Nov 4 2023 6:48 utc | 640

Peter AU1 205
No thanks, not with Netanyahu’s Nazi racist screeching and bombing Gaza. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2023 6:50 utc | 641

Peter AU1 205
No thanks, not with Netanyahu’s Nazi racist screeching and bombing Gaza. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2023 6:50 utc | 642

Another kind of intervention is possible though. If a large group of volunteers from all over the world assemble at the Rafah border point and start taking in the trucks full of aid into Gaza daring Israel to attack the contingent, with adequate publicity, it may deter Israel-US to some extent and provide necessary aid in Gaza.

Posted by: Jhaji | Nov 4 2023 6:54 utc | 643

Another kind of intervention is possible though. If a large group of volunteers from all over the world assemble at the Rafah border point and start taking in the trucks full of aid into Gaza daring Israel to attack the contingent, with adequate publicity, it may deter Israel-US to some extent and provide necessary aid in Gaza.

Posted by: Jhaji | Nov 4 2023 6:54 utc | 644

Pardon me?
Your definition of a “moment” turns out to be “8 long years”? Yet you criticize the likes of Nasrallah because he hasn’t jumped into a fight that hasn’t even been going a month?
Hmmmmm. Not sure I can agree.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 3 2023 22:42 utc | 224

Crimea? That was immediate.
Donbass independence referendum and build up of their own army by Russia was also immediate.
By his own admission the only mistake Putin did was still giving diplomacy chance. And Minsk 2 sort of worked.
There was a steep decline in Ukraine shelling since 2016 and almost nil by 2018-2019.
It was when Biden took office in 2021 that things started up again. Kyiv started assembling a force to invade Donbass and the Russians noticed and also started their own build up.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Nov 4 2023 7:00 utc | 645

Pardon me?
Your definition of a “moment” turns out to be “8 long years”? Yet you criticize the likes of Nasrallah because he hasn’t jumped into a fight that hasn’t even been going a month?
Hmmmmm. Not sure I can agree.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 3 2023 22:42 utc | 224

Crimea? That was immediate.
Donbass independence referendum and build up of their own army by Russia was also immediate.
By his own admission the only mistake Putin did was still giving diplomacy chance. And Minsk 2 sort of worked.
There was a steep decline in Ukraine shelling since 2016 and almost nil by 2018-2019.
It was when Biden took office in 2021 that things started up again. Kyiv started assembling a force to invade Donbass and the Russians noticed and also started their own build up.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Nov 4 2023 7:00 utc | 646

Giyane | Nov 4 2023 6:50 utc | 328
Best to educate yourself wherever possible.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:03 utc | 647

Giyane | Nov 4 2023 6:50 utc | 328
Best to educate yourself wherever possible.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:03 utc | 648

laguerre | Nov 4 2023 5:13 utc | 315
Thanks for linking that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:10 utc | 649

laguerre | Nov 4 2023 5:13 utc | 315
Thanks for linking that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:10 utc | 650

Deep Discussion and videos on 4th gen warfare and why Hezbollah beat the IDF in 2006
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/l-reichard-white/hezbollah-vs-idf-what-happened-last-time/

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 7:23 utc | 651

Deep Discussion and videos on 4th gen warfare and why Hezbollah beat the IDF in 2006
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/l-reichard-white/hezbollah-vs-idf-what-happened-last-time/

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 7:23 utc | 652

Uncle Sam Doesn’t Have One Thin Dime for Joe Biden’s $106 Billion War Package
By David Stockman (Jewish American Congressman then Private Equity mongel)
…..The fact is, Uncle Sam is flat-out broke. Washington cannot afford a single dime of the $106 billion package that Biden is trying to shove down the collective throats of America’s hapless legislators. That especially includes the utter waste of another $61 billion for Washington’s insane proxy war against Russia in Ukraine and the $14 billion for Israel, as well.
In truth, Israel has not yet even begun to tighten its own economic belt to pay for the war policy that its militaristic and religious extremist government insists upon. Indeed, the pending US aid package amounts to only 2.5% of Israel’s GDP and comes on the back of Netanyahu’s ceaseless decades-long campaign for a Garrison State national security policy, but one funded on the cheap via a quasi-pacifist defense spending level.
That’s right. Israel’s military expenditures had plunged from more than 20% of GDP at the time of the last existential crisis during the Yom Kippur War of 1973 to just 5% of GDP on the eve of the October 7 attacks. In effect, Netanyahu falsely told Israeli voters that they didn’t have to take the risks and make the territorial concessions implicit in a two-state and diplomatically-based solution to the Palestine problem. But at the same time, they could also avoid having to be taxed to the gills to pay for the alternative—a costly, heavily militarized Garrison State……..
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/david-stockman/uncle-sam-doesnt-have-one-thin-dime-for-joe-bidens-106-billion-war-package/

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 7:28 utc | 653

Uncle Sam Doesn’t Have One Thin Dime for Joe Biden’s $106 Billion War Package
By David Stockman (Jewish American Congressman then Private Equity mongel)
…..The fact is, Uncle Sam is flat-out broke. Washington cannot afford a single dime of the $106 billion package that Biden is trying to shove down the collective throats of America’s hapless legislators. That especially includes the utter waste of another $61 billion for Washington’s insane proxy war against Russia in Ukraine and the $14 billion for Israel, as well.
In truth, Israel has not yet even begun to tighten its own economic belt to pay for the war policy that its militaristic and religious extremist government insists upon. Indeed, the pending US aid package amounts to only 2.5% of Israel’s GDP and comes on the back of Netanyahu’s ceaseless decades-long campaign for a Garrison State national security policy, but one funded on the cheap via a quasi-pacifist defense spending level.
That’s right. Israel’s military expenditures had plunged from more than 20% of GDP at the time of the last existential crisis during the Yom Kippur War of 1973 to just 5% of GDP on the eve of the October 7 attacks. In effect, Netanyahu falsely told Israeli voters that they didn’t have to take the risks and make the territorial concessions implicit in a two-state and diplomatically-based solution to the Palestine problem. But at the same time, they could also avoid having to be taxed to the gills to pay for the alternative—a costly, heavily militarized Garrison State……..
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/david-stockman/uncle-sam-doesnt-have-one-thin-dime-for-joe-bidens-106-billion-war-package/

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 7:28 utc | 654

This passage from Magnier’s article is remarkable:


Interestingly, despite the hostilities, there seems to be an unspoken rule of engagement. So far, both sides have primarily targeted military installations, avoiding large-scale civilian casualties. This restraint, especially on the part of a non-state actor like Hezbollah, is remarkable. It suggests maturity and strategic thinking that seeks to avoid the international repercussions of civilian casualties.

This is descriptive of a truth that shines through all the uncertainty, fog and lies around the current status of Hezbollah’s resistance:

The 4th most powerful military in the middle east has been everything short of neutralized along one of it’s borders by a small non-state actor.

Repeat this pattern only a few more times and all the carriers in the US navy will not be able to save ‘Israel’.
I know this cliche’ has been repeated often times over the past 3 decades, but let it sink in.
Consider how perilous is the status of the last crusader state – merely the right gust of wind in the right direction would be enough to send it crashing to ground any day now …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 7:34 utc | 655

This passage from Magnier’s article is remarkable:


Interestingly, despite the hostilities, there seems to be an unspoken rule of engagement. So far, both sides have primarily targeted military installations, avoiding large-scale civilian casualties. This restraint, especially on the part of a non-state actor like Hezbollah, is remarkable. It suggests maturity and strategic thinking that seeks to avoid the international repercussions of civilian casualties.

This is descriptive of a truth that shines through all the uncertainty, fog and lies around the current status of Hezbollah’s resistance:

The 4th most powerful military in the middle east has been everything short of neutralized along one of it’s borders by a small non-state actor.

Repeat this pattern only a few more times and all the carriers in the US navy will not be able to save ‘Israel’.
I know this cliche’ has been repeated often times over the past 3 decades, but let it sink in.
Consider how perilous is the status of the last crusader state – merely the right gust of wind in the right direction would be enough to send it crashing to ground any day now …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 7:34 utc | 656

I have been thinking about Erdogan’s speeches. In the past years and in the last few days to a gathering of perhaps a million. He has been steadily building a groundswell not just in Turkey but what he once termed the greater Turkey – all the Turkic world. Building that groundswell to where it will override all opposition voices. Where that leads I am not sure at the moment as far as military action in the current situation. Perhaps state, perhaps “irregular non state actors”. But he is certainly working towards making the Turkic world a powerful block in the multi-polar world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:36 utc | 657

I have been thinking about Erdogan’s speeches. In the past years and in the last few days to a gathering of perhaps a million. He has been steadily building a groundswell not just in Turkey but what he once termed the greater Turkey – all the Turkic world. Building that groundswell to where it will override all opposition voices. Where that leads I am not sure at the moment as far as military action in the current situation. Perhaps state, perhaps “irregular non state actors”. But he is certainly working towards making the Turkic world a powerful block in the multi-polar world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 7:36 utc | 658

Thanks b! I wish more of the posters would carefully read what they’re responding to.
William Gruff ( Nov 4 2023 0:53 utc | 272 ):
Yes, the endless screeching is proof enough.
To all:
Yemen, Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq, the list will only grow. Israel has no idea who will hit them next or from where.
Someone “unexpected” that I haven’t seen anybody mention could join in and decide to have a go at crippling Israeli air bases and maybe also artillery depots. Very static targets. “Right to protect” and all that.
It wouldn’t be that difficult if a nations military really wants to. Long overdue.
Hamas likely has a few surprises ready.
Hezbollah will clearly continue to increase their attacks as long as Israel doesn’t stop bombing Gaza.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 4 2023 7:47 utc | 659

Thanks b! I wish more of the posters would carefully read what they’re responding to.
William Gruff ( Nov 4 2023 0:53 utc | 272 ):
Yes, the endless screeching is proof enough.
To all:
Yemen, Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq, the list will only grow. Israel has no idea who will hit them next or from where.
Someone “unexpected” that I haven’t seen anybody mention could join in and decide to have a go at crippling Israeli air bases and maybe also artillery depots. Very static targets. “Right to protect” and all that.
It wouldn’t be that difficult if a nations military really wants to. Long overdue.
Hamas likely has a few surprises ready.
Hezbollah will clearly continue to increase their attacks as long as Israel doesn’t stop bombing Gaza.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 4 2023 7:47 utc | 660

juliania@253…..who will validate Palestinian Statehood? Who will guarantee their safety? Are they entitled to the same ‘security’ apparatus as the Apartheid Occupiers?
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2023 5:27 utc | 318
All versions of the two-state ‘solution’ put forward by the western powers require the Palestinian State to be militarily neutered while the new “Jewish State” will be military powerful.
The Reason? The safety of the Jewish State supersedes that of the native savages arrayed upon their borders …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 7:58 utc | 661

juliania@253…..who will validate Palestinian Statehood? Who will guarantee their safety? Are they entitled to the same ‘security’ apparatus as the Apartheid Occupiers?
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2023 5:27 utc | 318
All versions of the two-state ‘solution’ put forward by the western powers require the Palestinian State to be militarily neutered while the new “Jewish State” will be military powerful.
The Reason? The safety of the Jewish State supersedes that of the native savages arrayed upon their borders …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 7:58 utc | 662

If you remember what you have been told of the miracle of compounded interest you realize what tremendous forces the US is REALLY fighting against now that that “miracle” is working against it. You could see all this fighting as a smokescreen to hide the real problem. The US is trying to put together some kind of coalition of the willing to shoulder the financial burden. In Ukraine it has been successful to some extent. All it takes a little thing you do to Nord Stream and hope others get the message and presto they are willing…until the whole thing is incestuous.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 7:59 utc | 663

If you remember what you have been told of the miracle of compounded interest you realize what tremendous forces the US is REALLY fighting against now that that “miracle” is working against it. You could see all this fighting as a smokescreen to hide the real problem. The US is trying to put together some kind of coalition of the willing to shoulder the financial burden. In Ukraine it has been successful to some extent. All it takes a little thing you do to Nord Stream and hope others get the message and presto they are willing…until the whole thing is incestuous.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 7:59 utc | 664

Re: De-dollarization
The interest payments topic on Federal Debt is slowly working its way into financial circles. The key data point isn’t percent of federal expenditures devoted to interest payments. The key data point is percent of federal income.
Once interest payments exceed ~25% of federal income; financial markets going to demand ever higher interest rates on federal debt. It won’t be pretty and it’s likely to start slowly happening sometime around summer 2024. Key word slowly
Real negative effects of de-dollarization won’t be felt until 2027.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 8:01 utc | 665

Re: De-dollarization
The interest payments topic on Federal Debt is slowly working its way into financial circles. The key data point isn’t percent of federal expenditures devoted to interest payments. The key data point is percent of federal income.
Once interest payments exceed ~25% of federal income; financial markets going to demand ever higher interest rates on federal debt. It won’t be pretty and it’s likely to start slowly happening sometime around summer 2024. Key word slowly
Real negative effects of de-dollarization won’t be felt until 2027.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 8:01 utc | 666

The spate of air attacks on Syria seems to have stopped for now. Some time since Israels last trike and a week since the US strike. If that lasts, then it is likely Russia has changed the Rules of engagement for Syrian long range air defence.
Overall command it at the Russian airforce base. Syria seems to have been constrained to only target aircraft that came within Syrian borders. That may well have been changed to any aircrft that launches and attack on Syria regardless of border.
On the American strike, that was at the border near the river (road access to Iraq and Iran) and perhaps simply out of range of the Syrian air defenses. A few more weeks without Israeli strikes toward Damascus and Aleppo will give a better indication.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 667

The spate of air attacks on Syria seems to have stopped for now. Some time since Israels last trike and a week since the US strike. If that lasts, then it is likely Russia has changed the Rules of engagement for Syrian long range air defence.
Overall command it at the Russian airforce base. Syria seems to have been constrained to only target aircraft that came within Syrian borders. That may well have been changed to any aircrft that launches and attack on Syria regardless of border.
On the American strike, that was at the border near the river (road access to Iraq and Iran) and perhaps simply out of range of the Syrian air defenses. A few more weeks without Israeli strikes toward Damascus and Aleppo will give a better indication.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 668

Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:58 utc | 301
Thanks, I agree with your recent comments too. Russia will do nothing, and I doubt the arab nations will either. Not for a long time if ever. They’re all kikes basically, just wear different clothes.
That, and Israel will be destroyed/perish, and the two state solution is finally dead forever — in time the rest of the world will work this out. 181 and 242 are unworkable and ludicrous and designed by incompetents – it’s time to move on people.
en masse, en masse, en masse ….. been getting that confused my whole life, thanks 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 669

Tichy | Nov 4 2023 2:58 utc | 301
Thanks, I agree with your recent comments too. Russia will do nothing, and I doubt the arab nations will either. Not for a long time if ever. They’re all kikes basically, just wear different clothes.
That, and Israel will be destroyed/perish, and the two state solution is finally dead forever — in time the rest of the world will work this out. 181 and 242 are unworkable and ludicrous and designed by incompetents – it’s time to move on people.
en masse, en masse, en masse ….. been getting that confused my whole life, thanks 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 670

Not one Arab state has broken relations with Israel. Nasrallah’s speech was widely ridiculed in Arab social media, they are not coming to Hamas’s rescue. Let’s face reality, no one gives a crap about Hamas and most will be glad once it’s destroyed.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:42 utc | 671

Not one Arab state has broken relations with Israel. Nasrallah’s speech was widely ridiculed in Arab social media, they are not coming to Hamas’s rescue. Let’s face reality, no one gives a crap about Hamas and most will be glad once it’s destroyed.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:42 utc | 672

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 348
“They’re all kikes basically, just wear different clothes.”
Is it ok to refer to Palestinians as sand niggers, tough guy? Or are we just oke with using the term kikes for Jews? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:44 utc | 673

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Nov 4 2023 8:11 utc | 348
“They’re all kikes basically, just wear different clothes.”
Is it ok to refer to Palestinians as sand niggers, tough guy? Or are we just oke with using the term kikes for Jews? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:44 utc | 674

When do the battle hardened Chechens, Tatars, and Mongels join in ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 9:08 utc | 675

When do the battle hardened Chechens, Tatars, and Mongels join in ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2023 9:08 utc | 676

Not one Arab state has broken relations with Israel. Nasrallah’s speech was widely ridiculed in Arab social media, they are not coming to Hamas’s rescue. Let’s face reality, no one gives a crap about Hamas and most will be glad once it’s destroyed.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:42 utc | 349
If that’s the level of ignorance in the hasbara’s message, I fear for the future of Israel.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 4 2023 9:13 utc | 677

Not one Arab state has broken relations with Israel. Nasrallah’s speech was widely ridiculed in Arab social media, they are not coming to Hamas’s rescue. Let’s face reality, no one gives a crap about Hamas and most will be glad once it’s destroyed.

Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:42 utc | 349
If that’s the level of ignorance in the hasbara’s message, I fear for the future of Israel.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 4 2023 9:13 utc | 678

An interesting couple of sentences in oz ABC article
“At least 23 Thai nationals were among more than 240 people taken captive by Hamas terrorists on October 7.
Veteran Thai politician Areepen Uttarasin said he travelled to the Iranian capital Tehran and met senior Hamas officials there on October 26 for more than two hours.”
That sounds like Hamas maintains at least an office in Iran. From there they are likely to be also visited/in contact with Russia/Chinese and other officials/reps from RoW.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 9:34 utc | 679

An interesting couple of sentences in oz ABC article
“At least 23 Thai nationals were among more than 240 people taken captive by Hamas terrorists on October 7.
Veteran Thai politician Areepen Uttarasin said he travelled to the Iranian capital Tehran and met senior Hamas officials there on October 26 for more than two hours.”
That sounds like Hamas maintains at least an office in Iran. From there they are likely to be also visited/in contact with Russia/Chinese and other officials/reps from RoW.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2023 9:34 utc | 680

Questions have been asked here about the international recognition of Palestine. If you just look at the world map, most of the world has already recognized it (minus the usual suspects). Not sure about the exact numbers, but it certainly does not look like an “axis”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:36 utc | 681

Questions have been asked here about the international recognition of Palestine. If you just look at the world map, most of the world has already recognized it (minus the usual suspects). Not sure about the exact numbers, but it certainly does not look like an “axis”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:36 utc | 682

Even Sweden:
In October 2014, Sweden recognised Palestinian statehood after the Social Democratic Party won a plurality in the 2014 general election. Palestinians and their supporters welcomed Sweden’s decision, viewing it as a significant step towards achieving international recognition for Palestine.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:38 utc | 683

Even Sweden:
In October 2014, Sweden recognised Palestinian statehood after the Social Democratic Party won a plurality in the 2014 general election. Palestinians and their supporters welcomed Sweden’s decision, viewing it as a significant step towards achieving international recognition for Palestine.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:38 utc | 684

The US – with the five eyes and EU in tow – has been attacking Russia for the past year and a half, supplying arms, money, training, intelligence, and the occasional military expert to Ukraine, while claiming they are not a party; that it’s an affair between Ukraine and Russia only.
Meanwhile, in the Gaza conflict, Blinken warns Iran that it will be attacked for actions taken by proxies. Israel states Hezbollah is a proxy, and threatens to cut off the head of the snake.
These are dangerous precedents to set. The arguments the US uses to claim it is not attacking Russia could be used by countries sympathetic to Palestine to say they are not attacking Israel. And holding Iran responsible for the actions its proxies – real or imagined – is unwise for a country that funds NGO’s all over the world.
It would be best if the US were to realize that it’s had its day in the sun, and it’s time to move over. Give Biden a rocking chair.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 685

The US – with the five eyes and EU in tow – has been attacking Russia for the past year and a half, supplying arms, money, training, intelligence, and the occasional military expert to Ukraine, while claiming they are not a party; that it’s an affair between Ukraine and Russia only.
Meanwhile, in the Gaza conflict, Blinken warns Iran that it will be attacked for actions taken by proxies. Israel states Hezbollah is a proxy, and threatens to cut off the head of the snake.
These are dangerous precedents to set. The arguments the US uses to claim it is not attacking Russia could be used by countries sympathetic to Palestine to say they are not attacking Israel. And holding Iran responsible for the actions its proxies – real or imagined – is unwise for a country that funds NGO’s all over the world.
It would be best if the US were to realize that it’s had its day in the sun, and it’s time to move over. Give Biden a rocking chair.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 686

Using the term ‘kikes’ for Jewish people is a scheme to smear that bar.
Prolly from one hasbara troll.
The line that is being drawn in the sand is between those who recognize brothers and sisters in other humans and cherish them enough to be willing to talk to them over their differences – and those who dont.
Beware wich side you will be found to be on when the music stops – some judgment to be passed.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 687

Using the term ‘kikes’ for Jewish people is a scheme to smear that bar.
Prolly from one hasbara troll.
The line that is being drawn in the sand is between those who recognize brothers and sisters in other humans and cherish them enough to be willing to talk to them over their differences – and those who dont.
Beware wich side you will be found to be on when the music stops – some judgment to be passed.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 688

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:36 utc | 354
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:38 utc | 355
With some rudimentary research you’ve debunked about half a dozen hasbara morons on this site who periodically pop up and claim there is no such state as “Palestine”.
Kudos.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 689

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:36 utc | 354
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 9:38 utc | 355
With some rudimentary research you’ve debunked about half a dozen hasbara morons on this site who periodically pop up and claim there is no such state as “Palestine”.
Kudos.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 9:45 utc | 690

Is it ok to refer to Palestinians as sand niggers, tough guy? Or are we just oke with using the term kikes for Jews? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:44 utc | 350
You might as well, if you’re a westerner.
After all, they’re being butchered wholesale and the White Man’s Law seems ok with it.
I periodically call the Houthi “sand niggers”.
Example:
“You picked the wrong bunch of sand niggers to fuck with this time, kike!”
So, go ahead, spik.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 9:48 utc | 691

Is it ok to refer to Palestinians as sand niggers, tough guy? Or are we just oke with using the term kikes for Jews? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Jose J. | Nov 4 2023 8:44 utc | 350
You might as well, if you’re a westerner.
After all, they’re being butchered wholesale and the White Man’s Law seems ok with it.
I periodically call the Houthi “sand niggers”.
Example:
“You picked the wrong bunch of sand niggers to fuck with this time, kike!”
So, go ahead, spik.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 4 2023 9:48 utc | 692

I think there is some confusion here.
Nasrallah’s speech was brilliant.
Israel and the US keep getting out maneuvered.
The barbaric attack on Gaza was planned to draw Iran, Syria and Hezbollah into the fight – it didn’t work.
Then they said they would get involved if there was a ground invasion. Israel was reluctant to do a ground invasion as they knew they would be at a disadvantage, but went in anyway.
Then Iran , Syria and Hezbollah did nothing.
Everyone expected Nasrallah’s speech to be a call to arms, but it wasn’t.
Now there are 4 US carrier groups and any number of ships from other nations floating around the region with nothing to do.
All that Iran, Syria and Hezbollah have to do is keep up low level, niggling attacks so the US and allies can’t relax, and wait them out.
Those carrier groups can’t stay on high alert forever. They will have breakdowns and will need to rotate crew and resupply. A massive drain on the US finances.
Now the IDF is committed to more barbarity and are fully committed to the ground assault they never wanted.They are losing friends and allies by the day while fractures between political parties, government and army, and civilian groups continue to grow.
Israel will implode from within.

Posted by: Sir Reginald | Nov 4 2023 9:50 utc | 693

I think there is some confusion here.
Nasrallah’s speech was brilliant.
Israel and the US keep getting out maneuvered.
The barbaric attack on Gaza was planned to draw Iran, Syria and Hezbollah into the fight – it didn’t work.
Then they said they would get involved if there was a ground invasion. Israel was reluctant to do a ground invasion as they knew they would be at a disadvantage, but went in anyway.
Then Iran , Syria and Hezbollah did nothing.
Everyone expected Nasrallah’s speech to be a call to arms, but it wasn’t.
Now there are 4 US carrier groups and any number of ships from other nations floating around the region with nothing to do.
All that Iran, Syria and Hezbollah have to do is keep up low level, niggling attacks so the US and allies can’t relax, and wait them out.
Those carrier groups can’t stay on high alert forever. They will have breakdowns and will need to rotate crew and resupply. A massive drain on the US finances.
Now the IDF is committed to more barbarity and are fully committed to the ground assault they never wanted.They are losing friends and allies by the day while fractures between political parties, government and army, and civilian groups continue to grow.
Israel will implode from within.

Posted by: Sir Reginald | Nov 4 2023 9:50 utc | 694

Posted by: Dave | Nov 3 2023 22:42 utc | 223
Most likely all blackmailed “a la Epstein”.
All of them “Lollita Islanders”: oh boy they soooo young – barely legal pizzas – and asking for more as soon as its over!

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 4 2023 9:52 utc | 695

Posted by: Dave | Nov 3 2023 22:42 utc | 223
Most likely all blackmailed “a la Epstein”.
All of them “Lollita Islanders”: oh boy they soooo young – barely legal pizzas – and asking for more as soon as its over!

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 4 2023 9:52 utc | 696

This is an 2019 article claiming that Israel is striking Iranian proxies in order to destabilize Iran itself. So much for saying the Hamas attack was unprovoked.

Israel appears to be changing its strategy against Iran in the region. Instead of focusing on cutting off the snake’s head, it now seeks out and strikes its proxies across the region. This new approach could prove very costly to the regime in Tehran.
The reason is simple: A simultaneous war against these proxies can have a dramatic effect on Iran, no less than an attack on Iran itself. It would obligate Iran to employ military capabilities on several fronts and use vast amounts of money to fund these efforts. We need to remember that Iranian imperialism depends primarily on the funds and resources that Tehran sends to these terrorist forces. Therefore, weakening these Iranian “colonies” can make them a burden on the mother country which, buttressed by significant economic sanctions can destabilize the entire structure.

israel hayom

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 4 2023 9:53 utc | 697

This is an 2019 article claiming that Israel is striking Iranian proxies in order to destabilize Iran itself. So much for saying the Hamas attack was unprovoked.

Israel appears to be changing its strategy against Iran in the region. Instead of focusing on cutting off the snake’s head, it now seeks out and strikes its proxies across the region. This new approach could prove very costly to the regime in Tehran.
The reason is simple: A simultaneous war against these proxies can have a dramatic effect on Iran, no less than an attack on Iran itself. It would obligate Iran to employ military capabilities on several fronts and use vast amounts of money to fund these efforts. We need to remember that Iranian imperialism depends primarily on the funds and resources that Tehran sends to these terrorist forces. Therefore, weakening these Iranian “colonies” can make them a burden on the mother country which, buttressed by significant economic sanctions can destabilize the entire structure.

israel hayom

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 4 2023 9:53 utc | 698

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 6:51 utc | 329
What a genius.
The Israeli blaming Hamas is something western PR is pushing, and having less and less followers even in the West.
RoW and Muslims in particular are not going for it.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 4 2023 9:54 utc | 699

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 4 2023 6:51 utc | 329
What a genius.
The Israeli blaming Hamas is something western PR is pushing, and having less and less followers even in the West.
RoW and Muslims in particular are not going for it.

Posted by: Mario | Nov 4 2023 9:54 utc | 700

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