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November 11, 2023
Nasrallah’s Second Speech On Gaza

This afternoon Beirut time Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah delivered a speech on the occasion of Hizbullah's Martyr's Day.

(Rough transcript from listening to the English translation of the speech by Press TV)

—Begin of speech—

In the first part Nasrallah explains why the date for Martyr Day was chosen. It goes back to a successful attack on the Israeli occupation troops in Beirut on November 11 1982. He goes on to explain the role and importance of martyrs and their relation with god. He congratulates the families of the martyrs. He also congratulates those who sacrifice for Gaza.

Nasrallah then turns to events in Gaza.

The first issue is the attack of Israel on civilians. The second is the resistance there.

He describes the crimes of Israel against helpless civilians in full view of the world. It is relentless revenge. But there is a second aspect in the word of Israeli politicians. They say that all of this killing has a goal. One is to force the people of Gaza and people of the region to surrender. To give up on resistance because the costs are too high. The other is to make them surrender all their rights. To make them hopeless. After Gaza and the West Bank they will aim at Lebanon.

Israel is mistaken. Its aims will not be achieved.

We know that they did not achieve their aims in Lebanon in the 1982 invasion and the 2006 war despite all their killing and destruction of homes. The Lebanese peoples' support for resistance only grew. Their choice was not to surrender but to increase their resistance.

That is also why we should resist normalization with Israel.

The Israeli brutality is increasing the resistance against it. There are also protest everywhere and it puts pressure on politicians to call for a ceasefire. This will limit the time for Israel's operation. The U.S. administration can stop the war. It must be pushed towards that.

Today there is a summit of 57 Arab and Islamic nations. The Palestinians are not asking the summit to fight a war against Israel. They ask it to put serious pressure on the U.S. to end the aggression against them.

We must draw attention to the resistance in Gaza. They demonstrate the weakness of the Israeli forces. The Israelis have many casualties, more than they admit. The Israelis can not show any victory or even a small success.

The West Bank is critical for the resistance. It can draw Israeli troops away from other fronts.

The Yemeni army has taken a decision to attack Israel. It has great significance. It is a great moral support for the resistance even if its missiles and drones do not always hit Eilat. The Yemenis did not listen to the U.S. threats against them. They have made south Israel less secure and pushed Israel to move air-defenses down south.

The Iraqi resistance is attacking U.S. positions in Iraq and Syria. Before October 7 those fronts were relatively calm. They were re-opened in solidarity with Gaza. Now they challenge U.S. forces. The U.S. sends threats to governments to suppress the resistance. The resistance says you can only end these attacks if you put pressure on Israel.

Syria, within the resistance axis, is taking a great burden. It is supporting the resistance and suffering repercussions for that. In Syria the U.S. is supporting ISIS against the Syrian troops.

Iran is another front of the resistance. Its limitless support for the resistance is not longer hidden. The strength of the resistance in the region is based on the firm stance of Iran. They spared no funds, weapons or training. Iran is not changing its stand. It does not decide for the resistance but will always support it.

Now to Lebanon. The resistance operations continue on a daily basis. Despite all the precautions the Israeli army takes it gets attacked by the resistance. There are every day brave martyr attacks on Israel.

Last week the resistance came to a new level. For the first time it used attack drones. We also used new missiles to target Israeli bases. They carry warheads of 300 to 500 kilogram of explosives. The operations carried out yesterday also get to deeper depths. Yesterday a Israeli medical official from one hospital in the north said that had receive some 300 casualties. The Israeli government does not admit that.

The resistance responds to every Israeli attack. We will not tolerate any attack on our civilians. We have reconnaissance drones over all of north Israel. Some came back, some are shot down. They draw away Israeli air defenses from other fronts.

We will continues with this. We will increase the quantity, quality and depths of our operations. The people in Lebanon support the resistance. This helps to be an effective influential front.

What happens on the battlefield is more important than my speech. Time is important for the resistance. It helps to grow until the enemy admits defeat.

When all the pressure comes together the enemy will have to settle. Netanyahoo is changing his aims on an hourly basis. It shows the pressure Israel is under. Its military failure on the ground and the protests are all pressing on it. The time for it is limited.

The resistance will achieve victory and Israel will not achieve its aims.

I ask you to pray for the martyr's and for our success. We pledge to continue on our paths. The finally victory will come – god willing.

Israel after October 7 is no longer what it was. Its strategic position and its security is diminished.

We must continue on our paths.

May you all be blessed.

— End of Nasrallah's speech —

Comments

Pretty mild speech for the occasion huh.

Posted by: Aule | Nov 11 2023 15:03 utc | 1

Pretty mild speech for the occasion huh.

Posted by: Aule | Nov 11 2023 15:03 utc | 2

This reminds me very much of the early stages of agression in Ukraine, when Russia was being urged to retaliate but it did not. Instead of immediately responding it pursued all other avenues of response, and this was the appropriate thing to do as their response was more effective later because they waited and let resources be built, training commence, and populations readied for the conflict which would ultimately come.
Thank you b, for formatting the speech for us in this manner. Well done.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 11 2023 15:05 utc | 3

This reminds me very much of the early stages of agression in Ukraine, when Russia was being urged to retaliate but it did not. Instead of immediately responding it pursued all other avenues of response, and this was the appropriate thing to do as their response was more effective later because they waited and let resources be built, training commence, and populations readied for the conflict which would ultimately come.
Thank you b, for formatting the speech for us in this manner. Well done.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 11 2023 15:05 utc | 4

Anybody know the context of this photo? https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1289454300880494592

Posted by: Maracatu | Nov 11 2023 15:07 utc | 5

Anybody know the context of this photo? https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1289454300880494592

Posted by: Maracatu | Nov 11 2023 15:07 utc | 6

….. Yesterday a Israeli medical official from one hospital in the north said that had receive some 300 casualties. The Israeli government does not admit that…..
Any confirmation ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 15:10 utc | 7

….. Yesterday a Israeli medical official from one hospital in the north said that had receive some 300 casualties. The Israeli government does not admit that…..
Any confirmation ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 15:10 utc | 8

Thanks for the posting b….nice to get up to….love me the smell of civilization war in the morning.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 11 2023 15:14 utc | 9

Thanks for the posting b….nice to get up to….love me the smell of civilization war in the morning.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 11 2023 15:14 utc | 10

Every passing day i am more and more sick of it all…
It´s everywhere: the Imperial Strategy of Chaos is working nonstop – whether the senseless slaughter in Ukraine and Gaza or any other of the less bloody but still very concerning developments all around the globe. In my home country, the local Imperial puppet, Sanchez the Satrap, is being quite successful in blowing up Spain in real time.
Let´s remember that the main support of the Imperial machine is the US dollar. Its ability to print unlimited amounts of money at zero cost and have the rest of the world accept them for real goods, services as well as for corrupting & buying local politicians and elites.
At one point i thought that China would have some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system, but now i don´t think is going to happen.
But still, common people are still capable of bringing down the Dollar oligarchy. Under the current uncertain outlook, a general strike in Western countries lasting a couple of weeks coupled with the rest of the world doing a full scale Boycott Disinvestment and Sanctions package on Nato countries would push the Dollar based monetary and financial system over the edge.

Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 11

Every passing day i am more and more sick of it all…
It´s everywhere: the Imperial Strategy of Chaos is working nonstop – whether the senseless slaughter in Ukraine and Gaza or any other of the less bloody but still very concerning developments all around the globe. In my home country, the local Imperial puppet, Sanchez the Satrap, is being quite successful in blowing up Spain in real time.
Let´s remember that the main support of the Imperial machine is the US dollar. Its ability to print unlimited amounts of money at zero cost and have the rest of the world accept them for real goods, services as well as for corrupting & buying local politicians and elites.
At one point i thought that China would have some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system, but now i don´t think is going to happen.
But still, common people are still capable of bringing down the Dollar oligarchy. Under the current uncertain outlook, a general strike in Western countries lasting a couple of weeks coupled with the rest of the world doing a full scale Boycott Disinvestment and Sanctions package on Nato countries would push the Dollar based monetary and financial system over the edge.

Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 12

Bravos são os palestino, seguem firme em sua vitória. Agradeço as informações acima. Fico feliz em saber que não haverá nenhum passo atrás em sua conquista do seu Estado.

Posted by: Carlos | Nov 11 2023 15:16 utc | 13

Bravos são os palestino, seguem firme em sua vitória. Agradeço as informações acima. Fico feliz em saber que não haverá nenhum passo atrás em sua conquista do seu Estado.

Posted by: Carlos | Nov 11 2023 15:16 utc | 14

Nasrallah:
Today there is a summit of 57 Arab and Islamic nations. The Palestinians are not asking the summit to fight a war against Israel. They ask it to put serious pressure on the U.S. to end the aggression against them.
According to Al Ahram:
In an emergency Arab Islamic Summit that comes 36 days after Israel launched its war on Gaza, Arab and Islamic countries failed to adopt one measurement that can push towards ending the Israeli aggression or at least mitigate the ongoing human crisis.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 15:29 utc | 15

Nasrallah:
Today there is a summit of 57 Arab and Islamic nations. The Palestinians are not asking the summit to fight a war against Israel. They ask it to put serious pressure on the U.S. to end the aggression against them.
According to Al Ahram:
In an emergency Arab Islamic Summit that comes 36 days after Israel launched its war on Gaza, Arab and Islamic countries failed to adopt one measurement that can push towards ending the Israeli aggression or at least mitigate the ongoing human crisis.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 15:29 utc | 16

That is also why we should resist normalization with Israel…The resistance will achieve victory and Israel will not achieve its aims.
I think you are way beyond that step. The speech does appear mild and deflective. It also signals, at least from what I can see, that no help is coming.
Of course the press on both sides are lying for the most part. What we see with our eyes does not change what is happening. The sterilization of Gaza and the taking of the land. The pushing of the Palestinian people south.
Everyone in the region knows the long term goals. Few are in a position to do anything. Mutual assured conventional destruction, MACD, keeps both sides nipping at each other heels in the North.
If this halts, it will be over money and resources being stopped from the US. The Israelis talk like they are in in for the long term. The US will support Israel in the long term. Everyone else appears to be clamoring for something other than what they need to do to stop Israels slaughter in Gaza.

Posted by: circumpect | Nov 11 2023 15:30 utc | 17

That is also why we should resist normalization with Israel…The resistance will achieve victory and Israel will not achieve its aims.
I think you are way beyond that step. The speech does appear mild and deflective. It also signals, at least from what I can see, that no help is coming.
Of course the press on both sides are lying for the most part. What we see with our eyes does not change what is happening. The sterilization of Gaza and the taking of the land. The pushing of the Palestinian people south.
Everyone in the region knows the long term goals. Few are in a position to do anything. Mutual assured conventional destruction, MACD, keeps both sides nipping at each other heels in the North.
If this halts, it will be over money and resources being stopped from the US. The Israelis talk like they are in in for the long term. The US will support Israel in the long term. Everyone else appears to be clamoring for something other than what they need to do to stop Israels slaughter in Gaza.

Posted by: circumpect | Nov 11 2023 15:30 utc | 18

Many thanks for posting this

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 11 2023 15:34 utc | 19

Many thanks for posting this

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 11 2023 15:34 utc | 20

Only 318 civilians killed on October 7th? Any links?
In the last thread it was claimed that the 1,400 casualties was exaggerated, mostly police or military, and that the civilians were mostly killed by Israeli tanks and helicopters. Does anyone have a link?
Thanks

Posted by: team10tim | Nov 11 2023 15:35 utc | 21

Only 318 civilians killed on October 7th? Any links?
In the last thread it was claimed that the 1,400 casualties was exaggerated, mostly police or military, and that the civilians were mostly killed by Israeli tanks and helicopters. Does anyone have a link?
Thanks

Posted by: team10tim | Nov 11 2023 15:35 utc | 22

One gets the sense that Nasrallah is now the adult in the room. Somewhat ironic, then, that he is the leader of what is regarded as a terrorist organization.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 15:42 utc | 23

One gets the sense that Nasrallah is now the adult in the room. Somewhat ironic, then, that he is the leader of what is regarded as a terrorist organization.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 15:42 utc | 24

Hmm, in some ways this speech is much more interesting that the first. The first was higher in bluster to make up for the fact that it was a formal admission of what was obvious, that Hezbollah would not cross redlines and escalate to full scale war. This speech now lays out the response to the “then what” question. Hezbollah will work with all others to steadily increase military, economic, social and political pressure on Israel (and the US). The goal is to make Israel’s position untenable without war. This is a tragedy for Gaza, since such campaign can succeed, if it does at all, only over many years. But it does (1) invite everyone in the Arab world (or broader world) to do their part in raising the pressure (economic, military or political) and know that they are not spitting in the wind but are part of a broader campaign, (2) signals that Hezbollah will continue to very slowly escalate on the border without giving Israel a clear causus belli to take it to a new level, and (3) offers a warning to the US that the thing the US truly does not want, to manage a decades-long simmering conflict across the Middle East at a time it really wants to focus on China, is coming to pass. This is, at its heart, a warning to the US that it is geopolitically fucking itself over for decades.
In Biden’s speech a month ago, he said broadly that “the decisions we make now will set the course for decades to come.” Today, Nasrallah added his signature to that statement.

Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 15:43 utc | 25

Hmm, in some ways this speech is much more interesting that the first. The first was higher in bluster to make up for the fact that it was a formal admission of what was obvious, that Hezbollah would not cross redlines and escalate to full scale war. This speech now lays out the response to the “then what” question. Hezbollah will work with all others to steadily increase military, economic, social and political pressure on Israel (and the US). The goal is to make Israel’s position untenable without war. This is a tragedy for Gaza, since such campaign can succeed, if it does at all, only over many years. But it does (1) invite everyone in the Arab world (or broader world) to do their part in raising the pressure (economic, military or political) and know that they are not spitting in the wind but are part of a broader campaign, (2) signals that Hezbollah will continue to very slowly escalate on the border without giving Israel a clear causus belli to take it to a new level, and (3) offers a warning to the US that the thing the US truly does not want, to manage a decades-long simmering conflict across the Middle East at a time it really wants to focus on China, is coming to pass. This is, at its heart, a warning to the US that it is geopolitically fucking itself over for decades.
In Biden’s speech a month ago, he said broadly that “the decisions we make now will set the course for decades to come.” Today, Nasrallah added his signature to that statement.

Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 15:43 utc | 26

@13 Bob thanks
do you include this from b today previous comment:
“The escalation between #Israel and #Hezbollah has started TODAY (you may disagree if you don’t see the full picture).”

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 15:57 utc | 27

@13 Bob thanks
do you include this from b today previous comment:
“The escalation between #Israel and #Hezbollah has started TODAY (you may disagree if you don’t see the full picture).”

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 15:57 utc | 28

This is just one of the absurdities of the Arab leadership talking about their cultural achievements at the UN at this time when they need to take concrete actions now…
Attacks on Gaza civilians and facilities are ‘unjustifiable’: Saudi minister

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 15:59 utc | 29

This is just one of the absurdities of the Arab leadership talking about their cultural achievements at the UN at this time when they need to take concrete actions now…
Attacks on Gaza civilians and facilities are ‘unjustifiable’: Saudi minister

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 15:59 utc | 30

Thanks for joining these snippets together, b. From your version and disjointed snippets I found via Al Jazeera, I gather that, apart from confirming that Hezbollah is still in the Resistance Club, he’s decided to keep his powder dry.
Worrying news from DW News though. Annalena Baerbrock has been to Ramalla to participate in talks with/to/at the PA which I believe is under Bibi’s thumb, or boot.
Yesterday, Judge Nepolitano interviewed a military expert, whom I’ve never heard of. This expert said that the Izzies would be soiling their underwear at the prospect of confronting HAMAS fighters in circa 300+ km of tunnels 60 metres underground.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:06 utc | 31

Thanks for joining these snippets together, b. From your version and disjointed snippets I found via Al Jazeera, I gather that, apart from confirming that Hezbollah is still in the Resistance Club, he’s decided to keep his powder dry.
Worrying news from DW News though. Annalena Baerbrock has been to Ramalla to participate in talks with/to/at the PA which I believe is under Bibi’s thumb, or boot.
Yesterday, Judge Nepolitano interviewed a military expert, whom I’ve never heard of. This expert said that the Izzies would be soiling their underwear at the prospect of confronting HAMAS fighters in circa 300+ km of tunnels 60 metres underground.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:06 utc | 32

I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 33

I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 34

One thing countries can do short of war is withdraw from the ICC, if they’ve signed up to that.
It’s an utter joke now that Israel gets to do mass slaughter and maim civilians while Putin gets an indictment for sending kids away from a war zone.
South Africa ought to be doing this along with any South American country.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 11 2023 16:10 utc | 35

One thing countries can do short of war is withdraw from the ICC, if they’ve signed up to that.
It’s an utter joke now that Israel gets to do mass slaughter and maim civilians while Putin gets an indictment for sending kids away from a war zone.
South Africa ought to be doing this along with any South American country.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 11 2023 16:10 utc | 36

It has always appeared perfectly clear to me that Ukraine could not possibly ever win a war with Russia.
That Israel is not ever going to win its war is equally clear to me.
It appears as if they have already soundly lost the war for minds and hearts.
Except among the political elite, which is out of step with the people on the street.

Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 11 2023 16:11 utc | 37

It has always appeared perfectly clear to me that Ukraine could not possibly ever win a war with Russia.
That Israel is not ever going to win its war is equally clear to me.
It appears as if they have already soundly lost the war for minds and hearts.
Except among the political elite, which is out of step with the people on the street.

Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 11 2023 16:11 utc | 38

@Bob again discussion
I’m wondering about the “visceral malignancy” factor (P Giraldi’s phrase this morning), or maybe it’s my own “visceral malignancy” susceptibility here as with reports today of snipers shooting through hospital windows killing nurses, the deaths of babies on incubators, in other words atrocities that are the main staple of this genocide and its increasing intensity toward . . . WHAT??
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-israel-exception-to-free-speech/

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 16:13 utc | 39

@Bob again discussion
I’m wondering about the “visceral malignancy” factor (P Giraldi’s phrase this morning), or maybe it’s my own “visceral malignancy” susceptibility here as with reports today of snipers shooting through hospital windows killing nurses, the deaths of babies on incubators, in other words atrocities that are the main staple of this genocide and its increasing intensity toward . . . WHAT??
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-israel-exception-to-free-speech/

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 16:13 utc | 40

Hezbollah is already fighting a full
scale war versus the IDF.
It’s not a secret

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 16:14 utc | 41

Hezbollah is already fighting a full
scale war versus the IDF.
It’s not a secret

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 16:14 utc | 42

It’s going to be ‘interesting’ to see how long it takes the Zio Zombies to figure out that killing women and children is much more likely to increase HAMAS membership than to shrink it…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:16 utc | 43

It’s going to be ‘interesting’ to see how long it takes the Zio Zombies to figure out that killing women and children is much more likely to increase HAMAS membership than to shrink it…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:16 utc | 44

The headline should read Feckless, Weak, Broken Regional leadership Spells Disaster for the Palestinians in Gaza
Middle East leaders slam Israel at Saudi-hosted summit on Gaza

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:20 utc | 45

The headline should read Feckless, Weak, Broken Regional leadership Spells Disaster for the Palestinians in Gaza
Middle East leaders slam Israel at Saudi-hosted summit on Gaza

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:20 utc | 46

some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system
Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 6

There are lots of moving parts in the machine.
Bloomberg’s blog reports:

The Diamond World Takes Radical Steps to Stop a Pricing Plunge
After a diamond price collapse, the industry’s biggest players have pulled out all the stops to halt the decline. It finally seems to be working.

De Beers markets its rough diamonds in a series of tightly scripted sales, where handpicked buyers are normally expected to take all their contracted allocations at a price set by De Beers, or face potential penalties in the future. But with prices in free fall around the world, the one-time diamond monopoly has been forced to allow more and more flexibility, finally removing the restrictions altogether.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-11/diamond-prices-miners-take-radical-steps-to-support-the-market

Posted by: too scents | Nov 11 2023 16:25 utc | 47

some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system
Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 6

There are lots of moving parts in the machine.
Bloomberg’s blog reports:

The Diamond World Takes Radical Steps to Stop a Pricing Plunge
After a diamond price collapse, the industry’s biggest players have pulled out all the stops to halt the decline. It finally seems to be working.

De Beers markets its rough diamonds in a series of tightly scripted sales, where handpicked buyers are normally expected to take all their contracted allocations at a price set by De Beers, or face potential penalties in the future. But with prices in free fall around the world, the one-time diamond monopoly has been forced to allow more and more flexibility, finally removing the restrictions altogether.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-11/diamond-prices-miners-take-radical-steps-to-support-the-market

Posted by: too scents | Nov 11 2023 16:25 utc | 48

Overall a mild speech. Resistance settling in for a long war. Not noted in the comments yet is Nasrallah calling on the west bank to open a new front.
That would make a third front and draw more Israeli forces away from Gaza. Settling in for a long war may also mean Nasrallah believes Hamas in Gaza can keep fighting for an extended period.
After the Anglos halted the Russia Ukraine agreement, Russia settled in for a long war which sucked the guts out of Nato/EU. US/UK was several times on the brink of going nuclear to win in Ukraine.
The Arab/Islamic meeting, on appearances nothing of consequence came of it but possibly there is agreement to support ‘non state actors’ (just my guess).
This is worth keeping in mind in regards the Palestine conflict

The Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
We are back to the idea that people believe that Israel is insane enough to carry out genocide in Gaza but apparently not insane enough to use nuclear weapons, particularly if they feel existentially threatened by the actions of other nations in the region.
Do you seriously think we should test the boundaries of insanity with stakes that high?
Do you seriously want to tip Israel to the point of testing just how unstable they could be?
This doesn’t mean Israel should not be held accountable but risking them using nuclear weapons is not an option.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 16:25 utc | 49

Overall a mild speech. Resistance settling in for a long war. Not noted in the comments yet is Nasrallah calling on the west bank to open a new front.
That would make a third front and draw more Israeli forces away from Gaza. Settling in for a long war may also mean Nasrallah believes Hamas in Gaza can keep fighting for an extended period.
After the Anglos halted the Russia Ukraine agreement, Russia settled in for a long war which sucked the guts out of Nato/EU. US/UK was several times on the brink of going nuclear to win in Ukraine.
The Arab/Islamic meeting, on appearances nothing of consequence came of it but possibly there is agreement to support ‘non state actors’ (just my guess).
This is worth keeping in mind in regards the Palestine conflict

The Sirius Report
@thesiriusreport
We are back to the idea that people believe that Israel is insane enough to carry out genocide in Gaza but apparently not insane enough to use nuclear weapons, particularly if they feel existentially threatened by the actions of other nations in the region.
Do you seriously think we should test the boundaries of insanity with stakes that high?
Do you seriously want to tip Israel to the point of testing just how unstable they could be?
This doesn’t mean Israel should not be held accountable but risking them using nuclear weapons is not an option.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 16:25 utc | 50

thanks b.. appreciate it..

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2023 16:34 utc | 51

thanks b.. appreciate it..

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2023 16:34 utc | 52

@6, Concerned celtiberian, I would like to point out that the Federal Reserve is a consortium of banks and is no more Federal than Federal Express. Every dollar printed is basically a loan with interest. We are being charged for using our own “money”. Of course, it’s unsustainable. 1913 was the camel’s nose under the tent.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 53

@6, Concerned celtiberian, I would like to point out that the Federal Reserve is a consortium of banks and is no more Federal than Federal Express. Every dollar printed is basically a loan with interest. We are being charged for using our own “money”. Of course, it’s unsustainable. 1913 was the camel’s nose under the tent.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 54

At one point i thought that China would have some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system, but now i don´t think is going to happen.
Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 6
Thankfully it’s not. A sudden crash of the US dollar would wreak untold havoc in the global economy that would further destabilize the world, which is not in the interest of Russia/China.
This is a battle for hearts and minds of the RoW and the resistance is winning, slowly, gradually, but surely. This will take time. Such a spasmodic movement from China would constitute it liable in the eyes of the global populace for the suffering.
Regarding the Middle East, a wider escalation is what (some factions of) the Empire would wish to hide its failures, its debt and the fact that nobody wishes to purchase it anymore. This is why Israel is openly striking so many hospitals: to provoke a response.
As hard as this may be, continued fight but with restraint is key here and that’s what we thankfully see from Nasrallah as well, most probably in coordination with Russia/China.
The Empire lost the gun battle in Ukraine, it’s losing the heart/minds battle in the Middle East. Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 55

At one point i thought that China would have some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system, but now i don´t think is going to happen.
Posted by: ConcernedCeltiberian | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 6
Thankfully it’s not. A sudden crash of the US dollar would wreak untold havoc in the global economy that would further destabilize the world, which is not in the interest of Russia/China.
This is a battle for hearts and minds of the RoW and the resistance is winning, slowly, gradually, but surely. This will take time. Such a spasmodic movement from China would constitute it liable in the eyes of the global populace for the suffering.
Regarding the Middle East, a wider escalation is what (some factions of) the Empire would wish to hide its failures, its debt and the fact that nobody wishes to purchase it anymore. This is why Israel is openly striking so many hospitals: to provoke a response.
As hard as this may be, continued fight but with restraint is key here and that’s what we thankfully see from Nasrallah as well, most probably in coordination with Russia/China.
The Empire lost the gun battle in Ukraine, it’s losing the heart/minds battle in the Middle East. Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 56

There shall be no Arab resistance and Palestinians are doomed. What is now an ideal of young Arabs? Just to become regular consumers, to be “loved” by The West. Just like Ukrainians.

Posted by: zorge | Nov 11 2023 16:36 utc | 57

There shall be no Arab resistance and Palestinians are doomed. What is now an ideal of young Arabs? Just to become regular consumers, to be “loved” by The West. Just like Ukrainians.

Posted by: zorge | Nov 11 2023 16:36 utc | 58

I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.
Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17

Great name for an impotent Girlie-Man though. His wife wears the pants and is a member of one of “Israel’s” ruling families.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:38 utc | 59

I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.
Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17

Great name for an impotent Girlie-Man though. His wife wears the pants and is a member of one of “Israel’s” ruling families.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:38 utc | 60

This to illustrate my point:
https://twitter.com/shawna_burley/status/1723203772199899312

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:40 utc | 61

This to illustrate my point:
https://twitter.com/shawna_burley/status/1723203772199899312

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:40 utc | 62

Couple this with Nasrallah’s Second Speech On Gaza….
The president’s proposals included “stopping the killing of the people of Gaza”, “completely lifting the human blockade of Gaza”, “the immediate military withdrawal of the Zionist regime from this region”, “the termination of any political and economic relations with the Zionist regime by Islamic countries”, “the establishment of an international court to prosecute and punish the Zionist and American criminal leaders”, “establishment of a special fund for the immediate reconstruction of Gaza with the acceptance of Islamic countries” and “sending a convoy of ships carrying humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people from Islamic countries.”
Iran’s President Proposes 10 Ideas in Support of Gaza
Sound and fury with zero possible accomplishments. Some possible aid, some possible sanctions, some possible solution in court, some possible reconstruction, no talk of a serious military threat against Israel to stop the slaughter.
I hope I am wrong but I think this was gamed out before it happened and the Israelis know how far they can push this and when they need to stop.

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 63

Couple this with Nasrallah’s Second Speech On Gaza….
The president’s proposals included “stopping the killing of the people of Gaza”, “completely lifting the human blockade of Gaza”, “the immediate military withdrawal of the Zionist regime from this region”, “the termination of any political and economic relations with the Zionist regime by Islamic countries”, “the establishment of an international court to prosecute and punish the Zionist and American criminal leaders”, “establishment of a special fund for the immediate reconstruction of Gaza with the acceptance of Islamic countries” and “sending a convoy of ships carrying humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people from Islamic countries.”
Iran’s President Proposes 10 Ideas in Support of Gaza
Sound and fury with zero possible accomplishments. Some possible aid, some possible sanctions, some possible solution in court, some possible reconstruction, no talk of a serious military threat against Israel to stop the slaughter.
I hope I am wrong but I think this was gamed out before it happened and the Israelis know how far they can push this and when they need to stop.

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 64

I see nothing insane about Israel’s genocide in Gaza. It looks cold and deliberate to me especially the high number of child deaths.
Will nations do an oil embargo? Actually invade Israel? Nope. Do much of anything besides blah, blah? I am old enough to recall when Ariel Sharon cooperated with Lebanese Falangists in mass murder of Palestinians in camps. I recall the pronouncements that Israel had ‘spent half a century of moral capital’. And they got away with it. Anyone remember Vanunu exposing Israel nuclear weapons? Yet, here we are …..again.
The critical question is, why is this latest fight any different? Or how will it end any differently?

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 65

I see nothing insane about Israel’s genocide in Gaza. It looks cold and deliberate to me especially the high number of child deaths.
Will nations do an oil embargo? Actually invade Israel? Nope. Do much of anything besides blah, blah? I am old enough to recall when Ariel Sharon cooperated with Lebanese Falangists in mass murder of Palestinians in camps. I recall the pronouncements that Israel had ‘spent half a century of moral capital’. And they got away with it. Anyone remember Vanunu exposing Israel nuclear weapons? Yet, here we are …..again.
The critical question is, why is this latest fight any different? Or how will it end any differently?

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 66

“I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.”
Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17
I think it’s worse than that… I think ‘habibi’ means ‘friend’ in Arabic and is commonly shortened to ‘bibi’ (or ‘bb’) by English speakers…
QK

Posted by: Qolotlh Kernow | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 67

“I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.”
Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17
I think it’s worse than that… I think ‘habibi’ means ‘friend’ in Arabic and is commonly shortened to ‘bibi’ (or ‘bb’) by English speakers…
QK

Posted by: Qolotlh Kernow | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 68

” I gather that, apart from confirming that Hezbollah is still in the Resistance Club, he’s decided to keep his powder dry.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:06 utc | 16 ”
The problem with that notion is that it gives the enemy time to prepare, time for the enemy to eliminate one’s allies, and time for the enemy to surround one, among other things. This is the mistake Iraq made in the first Gulf war, and Russia made in Ukraine.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:45 utc | 69

” I gather that, apart from confirming that Hezbollah is still in the Resistance Club, he’s decided to keep his powder dry.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2023 16:06 utc | 16 ”
The problem with that notion is that it gives the enemy time to prepare, time for the enemy to eliminate one’s allies, and time for the enemy to surround one, among other things. This is the mistake Iraq made in the first Gulf war, and Russia made in Ukraine.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:45 utc | 70

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 15:57 utc | 14
I saw b’s other post, and while this is a small escalation, I don’t view it as a step change, just the slow escalation and pushback of redlines that is inevitable in war. It doesn’t signal a fundamental change.
As for the “visceral malignancy” of Israel’s open genocide and sniping of hospital workers and children, what is there to say? It is open genocide, everyone know it, which is why the US is becoming (and must become) openly repressive to try to stop people from saying it. Israel’s goal of ethnically clensing at least the northern half of Gaza is clear, and, failing that, creating 100,000 casualties and a decade needed to rebuild will do.
I’ve said previously that the only thing that can stop Israel at this point is the Arab street threating the pro-US Arab regimes at this point, and undermining the US position. I still don’t see anything close to that happening, though Nasrallah’s call for everyone everywhere to join the long-term campaign on every level will hopefully increase that pressure.

Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 16:45 utc | 71

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 15:57 utc | 14
I saw b’s other post, and while this is a small escalation, I don’t view it as a step change, just the slow escalation and pushback of redlines that is inevitable in war. It doesn’t signal a fundamental change.
As for the “visceral malignancy” of Israel’s open genocide and sniping of hospital workers and children, what is there to say? It is open genocide, everyone know it, which is why the US is becoming (and must become) openly repressive to try to stop people from saying it. Israel’s goal of ethnically clensing at least the northern half of Gaza is clear, and, failing that, creating 100,000 casualties and a decade needed to rebuild will do.
I’ve said previously that the only thing that can stop Israel at this point is the Arab street threating the pro-US Arab regimes at this point, and undermining the US position. I still don’t see anything close to that happening, though Nasrallah’s call for everyone everywhere to join the long-term campaign on every level will hopefully increase that pressure.

Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 16:45 utc | 72

In response to

The headline should read Feckless, Weak, Broken Regional leadership Spells Disaster for the Palestinians in Gaza
Middle East leaders slam Israel at Saudi-hosted summit on Gaza
Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:20 utc | 23

Most of the leadership in the ME is as corrupt as the politicians of the West. If you are a leader in the ME, you will get Muammar Gaddafi’ied if you step out of line.
The ME is still under the thralls of barbaric patriarchy to a certain extent and this civilization war will force those cultures to evolve or perish, IMO…..just like the nations of the West.
Fascinating to watch unfold.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 11 2023 16:46 utc | 73

In response to

The headline should read Feckless, Weak, Broken Regional leadership Spells Disaster for the Palestinians in Gaza
Middle East leaders slam Israel at Saudi-hosted summit on Gaza
Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 16:20 utc | 23

Most of the leadership in the ME is as corrupt as the politicians of the West. If you are a leader in the ME, you will get Muammar Gaddafi’ied if you step out of line.
The ME is still under the thralls of barbaric patriarchy to a certain extent and this civilization war will force those cultures to evolve or perish, IMO…..just like the nations of the West.
Fascinating to watch unfold.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 11 2023 16:46 utc | 74

” The critical question is, why is this latest fight any different? Or how will it end any differently?
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 33 ”
Its different in the sense that its actually worse. At least in the past, you had Arab states willing to engage in war and the Soviets to back them up. Now we have polite
” accusations ” and calls for patience. Its a sad state of affairs and the Palestinians are paying the ultimate price.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:50 utc | 75

” The critical question is, why is this latest fight any different? Or how will it end any differently?
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 33 ”
Its different in the sense that its actually worse. At least in the past, you had Arab states willing to engage in war and the Soviets to back them up. Now we have polite
” accusations ” and calls for patience. Its a sad state of affairs and the Palestinians are paying the ultimate price.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:50 utc | 76

” Thankfully it’s not. A sudden crash of the US dollar would wreak untold havoc in the global economy that would further destabilize the world, which is not in the interest of Russia/China.
Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 28 ”
I keep hearing this kind of rationalization , however, can you elaborate on how a US financial collapse will destabilize the whole world any more then a civil war in the US and or Europe ? A thing that is frequently mentioned as a hoped outcome on this site and others.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:57 utc | 77

” Thankfully it’s not. A sudden crash of the US dollar would wreak untold havoc in the global economy that would further destabilize the world, which is not in the interest of Russia/China.
Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:35 utc | 28 ”
I keep hearing this kind of rationalization , however, can you elaborate on how a US financial collapse will destabilize the whole world any more then a civil war in the US and or Europe ? A thing that is frequently mentioned as a hoped outcome on this site and others.

Posted by: Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:57 utc | 78

I see nothing insane about Israel’s genocide in Gaza. It looks cold and deliberate to me especially the high number of child deaths.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 33
Crimes against humanity, including genocide, are intentional acts. The perpetrators are clinically sane, the criminal acts are planned, organised and executed towards achieving a set goal. The perpetrators are, however, morally insane.
What is stunning, and equally morally insane, is the US&All statements that Israel should minimise civilian casualties, and that civilians should be (better) protected. Because, the civilians are the targets of the Zionist war machine.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 79

I see nothing insane about Israel’s genocide in Gaza. It looks cold and deliberate to me especially the high number of child deaths.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 16:41 utc | 33
Crimes against humanity, including genocide, are intentional acts. The perpetrators are clinically sane, the criminal acts are planned, organised and executed towards achieving a set goal. The perpetrators are, however, morally insane.
What is stunning, and equally morally insane, is the US&All statements that Israel should minimise civilian casualties, and that civilians should be (better) protected. Because, the civilians are the targets of the Zionist war machine.

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 80

Israel a clear causus belli to take it to a new level
Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 15:43 utc | 13
Israel’s government, from rotten head to asshole, already point-blank stated their “cause” and their singular objective, Bob, many times. Those people have thoroughly rejected any non-violent, political, resolution of their grievances, both actual and imagined. Those people have abandoned “civilization.” I understand why some commentators condemn the “incompetence” of SMO in cleansing land from Azov to Galicia. Those people are as eager now to condemn the “disloyalty” of Arab League in resisting jihad for vengeance from the river to the sea. I understand that conflict resolution is not well understood by those people who are accustomed to violence in every dimension of their miserable lives. These are not sophisticated people. They count money, material, and lives lost rather than lives saved. For them integrity is impossible, government is the enemy,and a “new world order” is inconceivable.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 81

Israel a clear causus belli to take it to a new level
Posted by: Bob | Nov 11 2023 15:43 utc | 13
Israel’s government, from rotten head to asshole, already point-blank stated their “cause” and their singular objective, Bob, many times. Those people have thoroughly rejected any non-violent, political, resolution of their grievances, both actual and imagined. Those people have abandoned “civilization.” I understand why some commentators condemn the “incompetence” of SMO in cleansing land from Azov to Galicia. Those people are as eager now to condemn the “disloyalty” of Arab League in resisting jihad for vengeance from the river to the sea. I understand that conflict resolution is not well understood by those people who are accustomed to violence in every dimension of their miserable lives. These are not sophisticated people. They count money, material, and lives lost rather than lives saved. For them integrity is impossible, government is the enemy,and a “new world order” is inconceivable.

Posted by: sln2002 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 82

Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:57 utc | 39
We now watch the phasing out of the US dollar and the phasing in of trade in national currencies with no interruption in trade. Evolution not revolution.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 83

Moonie | Nov 11 2023 16:57 utc | 39
We now watch the phasing out of the US dollar and the phasing in of trade in national currencies with no interruption in trade. Evolution not revolution.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 84

@36 thanks again Bob.
I see that the prevailing view here at the bar is similar to yours.
I think whether there is a fundamental change or not is the crucial question, even as I suppose the atrocities too are “same same” and global rage quickly passes.

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 17:11 utc | 85

@36 thanks again Bob.
I see that the prevailing view here at the bar is similar to yours.
I think whether there is a fundamental change or not is the crucial question, even as I suppose the atrocities too are “same same” and global rage quickly passes.

Posted by: botete | Nov 11 2023 17:11 utc | 86

Map showing the positions of four naval groups
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-mv8V2XsAAebzj?format=jpg&name=large

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 17:11 utc | 87

Map showing the positions of four naval groups
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-mv8V2XsAAebzj?format=jpg&name=large

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 17:11 utc | 88

@ sln2002 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 41
good commentary.. in so far as the usa has a long track record of bloodlust in faraway places, it makes sense they are supportive of the ethnic cleansing/ genocide that israel is carrying out at present.. but as you point out an awareness of lives lost rather then lives saved is a real reflection of a compassionate country, and that isn’t seen here on either usa or israels part.. in fact, many countries are turning a blind eye to the sheer madness happening at present, and many are condoning it directly or indirectly as well… there is a leadership vacuum in the west and until that changes – we will continue on in a downward direction..

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2023 17:13 utc | 89

@ sln2002 | Nov 11 2023 17:02 utc | 41
good commentary.. in so far as the usa has a long track record of bloodlust in faraway places, it makes sense they are supportive of the ethnic cleansing/ genocide that israel is carrying out at present.. but as you point out an awareness of lives lost rather then lives saved is a real reflection of a compassionate country, and that isn’t seen here on either usa or israels part.. in fact, many countries are turning a blind eye to the sheer madness happening at present, and many are condoning it directly or indirectly as well… there is a leadership vacuum in the west and until that changes – we will continue on in a downward direction..

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2023 17:13 utc | 90

OK,so the status of the Dollar is different. Of course, Congress will allow homeless veterans to die sick and poor in the streets while kids die of fentanyl before they pull back to fix the US. So, that will take a while. Evolution indeed.
The Eurodollar is the big thing. It could go on for decades,lacking much of anything to take its place. Bitcoin’s too slow and costly and the rest of crypto can be suppressed by the Treasury.
One day, Israel may abandon the US like a used condom and embrace China.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 17:13 utc | 91

OK,so the status of the Dollar is different. Of course, Congress will allow homeless veterans to die sick and poor in the streets while kids die of fentanyl before they pull back to fix the US. So, that will take a while. Evolution indeed.
The Eurodollar is the big thing. It could go on for decades,lacking much of anything to take its place. Bitcoin’s too slow and costly and the rest of crypto can be suppressed by the Treasury.
One day, Israel may abandon the US like a used condom and embrace China.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2023 17:13 utc | 92

Hearing that East Coast jewish US citzens are forming protest and no longer aligning with Zionists. Tabletten are turning, just not fast enough to sage Gaza. At least it looks like Israeli actions finally crossed the line of public indifference.
Feels to me like Nasrallah is carefully managing a chicken and egg problem here. No resistance state can afford to step up first and get all their windows smashed my the US, least of all Iran. Admitting Iranian backing is a comparably strong move and probably serves to reduce delay tactics and temerity. Maybe also paves the way for high tech weapons flowing into West Bank.
Asymmetrically a few lancets, Shaheed, ATGMs would make the settler position entirely untenable. No more fun harassing villages if your house gets knocked out remotely next night and IDF can’t protect you.

Posted by: SOS | Nov 11 2023 17:16 utc | 93

Hearing that East Coast jewish US citzens are forming protest and no longer aligning with Zionists. Tabletten are turning, just not fast enough to sage Gaza. At least it looks like Israeli actions finally crossed the line of public indifference.
Feels to me like Nasrallah is carefully managing a chicken and egg problem here. No resistance state can afford to step up first and get all their windows smashed my the US, least of all Iran. Admitting Iranian backing is a comparably strong move and probably serves to reduce delay tactics and temerity. Maybe also paves the way for high tech weapons flowing into West Bank.
Asymmetrically a few lancets, Shaheed, ATGMs would make the settler position entirely untenable. No more fun harassing villages if your house gets knocked out remotely next night and IDF can’t protect you.

Posted by: SOS | Nov 11 2023 17:16 utc | 94

….This to illustrate my point:
https://twitter.com/shawna_burley/status/1723203772199899312
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:40 utc | 3…..
Powerful complimation video of demonstrations around the world. Its especially illuminating to see millions demonstrating in NATO countries

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 17:19 utc | 95

….This to illustrate my point:
https://twitter.com/shawna_burley/status/1723203772199899312
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Nov 11 2023 16:40 utc | 3…..
Powerful complimation video of demonstrations around the world. Its especially illuminating to see millions demonstrating in NATO countries

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 17:19 utc | 96

As to US/west financial situation, watch Rollover. While not all that great of a movie it does carry a very plausible plot. There’s also Margin Call; have not watched it but it sounds similar in showing the fragility that’s woven into the global financial system. I believe that BRICS et al understand this and are levering out of it.
Consider that everything really does operate on thin margins. Lose that margin and then the system starts to buckle. An easy way to get ome’s head around this is to see growth as the margin. For the most part global growth is in decline, the rate of increase is diminishing. Yes, some countries are bucking that trend (Russia being a clear example) but not enough to pull up the global economy. A new syatem will gry and adjust the books but in the longrun that system will also confront stalling growth. It was never about IF but WHEN. The answer is being revealed now.
As ALL wars are about resources and that global resources are diminishing it should follow that upticks in war lies in our future.
Palestinians appear to sitting on land that has resources (gas fields – off shore?) and or presents as being a conduit for resources (recent mention of a canal).

Posted by: Seer | Nov 11 2023 17:22 utc | 97

As to US/west financial situation, watch Rollover. While not all that great of a movie it does carry a very plausible plot. There’s also Margin Call; have not watched it but it sounds similar in showing the fragility that’s woven into the global financial system. I believe that BRICS et al understand this and are levering out of it.
Consider that everything really does operate on thin margins. Lose that margin and then the system starts to buckle. An easy way to get ome’s head around this is to see growth as the margin. For the most part global growth is in decline, the rate of increase is diminishing. Yes, some countries are bucking that trend (Russia being a clear example) but not enough to pull up the global economy. A new syatem will gry and adjust the books but in the longrun that system will also confront stalling growth. It was never about IF but WHEN. The answer is being revealed now.
As ALL wars are about resources and that global resources are diminishing it should follow that upticks in war lies in our future.
Palestinians appear to sitting on land that has resources (gas fields – off shore?) and or presents as being a conduit for resources (recent mention of a canal).

Posted by: Seer | Nov 11 2023 17:22 utc | 98

JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17
*** I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.***
It does, however, allow that Victoria Nuland, Suella Braverman and Ursula von der Leyen
can be called the whores of Bibilon.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 11 2023 17:25 utc | 99

JB | Nov 11 2023 16:09 utc | 17
*** I find it distasteful, to say the least, to refer to the creature Nattanyahu as Bibi. Sounds like Baby, intimate and affectionate.***
It does, however, allow that Victoria Nuland, Suella Braverman and Ursula von der Leyen
can be called the whores of Bibilon.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 11 2023 17:25 utc | 100