as I just wrote in the other thread, Notes on the War, about Elijah’s news from a short while ago of the attack in Lebanon and the escalation which will now follow:
all hell is going to break lose now on the northern Lebanese front.
Just as many have written, the US strategy all along has been to try to force Israel to open a serious northern front against Hezbollah, and then take it to Syria…. and beyond

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2023 8:01 utc | 3

“It seems the occupation of north of #Gaza won’t take too long”
I am not sure I would agree with that. Others think that Israel is making less good progress than it claims. Me I think that putting tanks on the surface is not the same as clearing tunnels 60m down.
A madness seems to have got into the Israelis, and it’s possible they will go on to attack Hizbullah, but I don’t think it is well calculated. If Israel thinks it’s safe as there are several US aircraft carriers offshore, it is wrong, I think. The level of anti-Israel rage over Gaza is enough to make any outside power think twice about going to war at Israel’s side. Even Macron has called for a ceasefire and a stop to Israeli killing of civilians: others will follow.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 5

The murderous madness initiated by the Zionists in occupied Palestine is not sustainable morally, politically, militarily or economically. I suspect economics is going to kill the colonial project called Israel. Morally and politically, by killing the Palestinians, Israel makes the point it does not have the right to exist in its current form.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 7

Likud wants to escalate and draw in all
those USN Carrier Aircraft to carpet bomb the Levant .
The IDFs favorite marching song …. onward Christian soldiers

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 8:03 utc | 9

I am not so sure that is a major escalation but he has a better finger on the current pulse of the region than I do. No one is doing much of anything to stop this for what I think are obvious reasons I posted in the last thread. At this point Turkey and the Persians are the only possible brake on this ethnic cleansing and that will only happen if their troops start to march on Israel.
I do not think Hezbollah is going all in unless the Persians join them fully. Turkey, despite Erdoğan, has had a long and deeply secret connection with Israel and their spin off gentile institutions in the region who are deeply misunderstood and deeply hidden.

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 8:21 utc | 11

BINGO!
Happy butcher days 11th november.
The war is that we have to change. Hezbolah will win by being moderate. Don’t over enjoy about the worst. It is never certain.
Happy adrenaline!
even if out of stress this small thought:
Let’s be psychohistorian a while, barflies !
We admit easily that the violence made to the palestinians will triger violence in some or many of them. We even might kind of hope they will turn their violence toward the perpetrors of that violence.
We agree also there is nazism, sionism, islamophobia, racism, and even some would agree there is antisemitism and israelo-cruelty (the israeli turning cruels).
And we might stay happy and confused, thinking this is bad, this is right. Those are bad, those are right.
 
If we stay quiter, we could see the Germans were in a huge disarray in the 1920s before nazism took hold of them as a nation, that extrem-papism pushed for pogroms which push for early-sionism, that antisemitic Shoah left huge scares that turn more than sometimes in israelo-cruelty.
Simply put, deeply injuried people might tend to become violent or cruel. (even if some would turn mild-thinker and carer, humans are not uniform).
 
And there is a second source of violence and cruelty, smoother and worse : it is greed. Unregulated capitalism. Colonialism. We have rights, they have not. Colonialism, being a mix of greed and gregarity. Bad faith and chauvinism.
The first violence is violence, Rajasic, it hurts to break an inertia. It reacts.
The second violence is Tamasic, it lives on inertia and promotes it. It amalgamates. The power of blind ideology lies here. (Max Weber stated : the chains on people lies in the inertia of the well-thinking).
 
Emmanuel Todd (French anthropologist) shows nazism came when protestantism stopped being active in Germany. Islamophobia (« je suis Charlie », french gregarism in 2015) when Catholicism was not active anymore in France. (catholic-zombies, as he calls it) 
A third way is the Sattvic way. Being moderate and aware. Brahmanic, tsadik or man of the Way. Those three moods or gunas change always one for the other. We keep being right on a point of view and we finish apologising the contrary of our first mood.
Religious or moral fundations are living things, which means they are subject to decay and cadaveric rigidity.
The West is decaying as much as he promotes amalgaming stupîdities and instrumentalizes justice and institutions. Wars are the times where rigidities break and a new incomplete sense of justice grows. History and religions are the nemesis, the memory of those slow moves. And needs to be constantly renewed.
 

Posted by: Baile | Nov 11 2023 8:27 utc | 13

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 4
I understand the rage and frustration, but i don’t see how it is possible that Israel will lose militarily or how it will ever give up the northern Gaza strip once it takes it. As for politically, I don’t think Israel really cares. Nutenyahoo may think it nice to have Macron publicly kiss his ass the way that other western leaders do, but I don’t think he spends much time worrying about it one way or the other so long as the US keeps arming him.
As for morals–when did any country ever care about morality?
I would love to be proven wrong, but I fall into the “a single death is a tragedy–a million deaths is a statistic camp” at the moment

Posted by: Zero Sum Game | Nov 11 2023 8:28 utc | 15

zero sum game,
Don’t confuse Blind Rage carpet bombing with prevailing Militarily. So far, the IDF has been getting pummeled both on Northern and Southern Fronts. The Pentagon is getting pummeled in Syria. It’s not even close.
Spend a bit of time researching the Viet Cong Tunnels of Chu Chi.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 8:41 utc | 17

Israel must perish!

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 11 2023 8:50 utc | 19

I reckon all those calling for a “pause” before more killing, instead of calling for a cease-fire, are now complicit in a genocide. Possibly they were “told” that there would be short “war” and the Gazans would be expelled into Egypt. End of problem.
It didn’t work out that way, and now western “leaders” are visibly supporting mass murder of the weakest. …. and they do not know what to do. Repression, censorship, police brutality no longer work as means of subjucation of normal human beings horror at the unfolding massacres.
The crude exposure of inhumanity is there for anyone with eyes to see, can see.
***
Al-Shifa hospital (surroundings mainly) has been bombarded for three days continuously. They cannot go out to bury the dead. With electricity cut in other hospitals, Doctors are operating with light from cell phones, without anesthetics. The latest “Import” from the US is a missile that sends out blades and *just* cuts off legs so as to not damage buildings.

Alshifa hospital yard was bombed by a drone plane ReaperMQ.9 carrying Rocket R9X which doesn’t explode but carries blades that cut off limbs and organs immediately

Want to see a woman that had both liegs amputated in the morning and is filmed fleeing towards the south, pushed in a wheelchair? You can, and so can all the rest of the world.
**
In other “cheer-up” news, the UK has sent 33 large cargo planes to Israel, No details of cargo have emerged obviously. Radiation from the explosion of UK supplied DU ammunition dump in Ukraine some months ago, has been detected in the UK.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:11 utc | 21

Probably just a move by Biden to force republicans to pass the combined Israel and Ukraine budget

Posted by: bbdrop | Nov 11 2023 9:14 utc | 23

My => Nov 11 2023 9:11 utc | 11
“ReaperMQ.9 carrying Rocket R9X”.
Do the Zionists HAVE the reaper MQ.9, or is this proof that the US is DIRECTLY helping to massacre civilians?

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:17 utc | 25

@Zero Sum Game | Nov 11 2023 8:28 utc | 8

I understand the rage and frustration, but i don’t see how it is possible that Israel will lose militarily or how it will ever give up the northern Gaza strip once it takes it.

Not understanding is not in itself an argument. It is not a Zero sum game, the Zionists will run out of resources.

As for politically, I don’t think Israel really cares. Nutenyahoo may think it nice to have Macron publicly kiss his ass the way that other western leaders do, but I don’t think he spends much time worrying about it one way or the other so long as the US keeps arming him.

The difference is that it is no longer up to Israel to care or not. They will run out of resources. As you say, it depends on the US arming them and at some stage that will end. But the economics will bleed them white first.

As for morals–when did any country ever care about morality?

Isn’t that what the ‘west’ is fighting for, ‘values’? I know, they are liars that no-one believes anymore, even if some did so in the past.
Nobody really knows the future, but one possible scenario within the coming months is that Biden leaves the scene, causing characters like Netanyahu and Zelensky to follow.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:20 utc | 27

Before people get all disappointed if Hezbollah don’t retaliate en maase, this looks to me like a desperation move by the Zios. I could be wrong, but I’ve a hunch the Gaza ground operation isn’t going too well, and Bibi is trying to get Hezbollah and Iran to react, thereby drawing in the US. Why lose precious Jewish lives on the ground in Gaza when you can get those goy US Marines to do it for you?
Wanna bet Putin or Iran are telling Hezbollah “Never do what the enemy wants”?

Posted by: ADB | Nov 11 2023 9:25 utc | 29

Breaking news, 39 newborn infants in incubators have now died due to Israeli bombing.

Posted by: fingrinn | Nov 11 2023 9:33 utc | 31

Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:17 utc | 13
It is my understanding that the US has been flying those type drones in the combat zone. I think they also come in surveillance models. Have never heard of Israel operating them in the past.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:36 utc | 33

The human world is gripped by a sickness.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Nov 11 2023 9:38 utc | 35

Do the Zionists HAVE the reaper MQ.9, or is this proof that the US is DIRECTLY helping to massacre civilians?
Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:17 utc | 13
Rule of thumb: Other than those crappy merkava chicken broilers, the IDF has nothing significant other than what the Americans loan to them.
This is an American genocide branded and packed in ‘Israel’, like most of what Isreal produces.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:39 utc | 37

These latest actions are totally in line with what I have been reading about the actual entrenched in state laws aims of zionism, where jews are the only people who count as y’know, people. I wouldn’t believe it if what I read hadn’t been written a by jewish israeli, human rights activist who survived nazi concentration camps and was one of the few who came out of them believing that never again meant never again for any human, including Palestinians.
Israel Shahak writes:

“Let me give a more recent illustration of the essential difference which exists between Israeli imperial planning of the most inflated but secular type. and the principles of ‘Jewish ideology’. The latter enjoins that land which was either ruled by any Jewish ruler in ancient times or was promised by God to the Jews, either in the Bible or – what is actually more important politically – according to a rabbinic interpretation of the Bible and the Talmud . . .
. . . A number of discrepant versions of Biblical borders of the Land of Israel, which rabbinical authorities interpret as ideally belonging to the Jewish state, are in circulation. The most far-reaching among them include the following areas within these borders: in the south, all of Sinai and a part of northern Egypt up to the environs of Cairo; in the east, all of Jordan and a large chunk of Saudi Arabia, all of Kuwait and a part of Iraq south of the Euphrates; in the north, all of Lebanon and all of Syria together with a huge part of Turkey (up to lake Van); and in the west, Cyprus. An enormous body of research and learned discussion based on these borders, embodied in atlases, books, articles and more popular forms of propaganda is being published in Israel, often with state subsidies, or other forms of support.

In another part of his book Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak says:

Those activities began in 1965-6 with a protest which caused a considerable scandal at the time: I had personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighbourhood. Instead of simply publishing the incident in the press, I asked for a meeting with the members of the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, which is composed of rabbis nominated by the State of Israel. I asked them whether such behaviour was consistent with their interpretation of the Jewish religion. They answered that the Jew in question had behaved correctly, indeed piously, and backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century. I reported the incident to the main Hebrew daily, Ha’aretz, whose publication of the story caused a media scandal.
The results of the scandal were, for me, rather negative. Neither the Israeli, nor the diaspora, rabbinical authorities ever reversed their ruling that a Jew should not violate the Sabbath in order to save the life of a Gentile.

All of that plus more appears in the 1st Chapter of his book. Doubtless there will be more to come. A big thanks to whoever posted this here last week.
I’m sorry ’bout the copy n pasta but in the circs I felt it vital to get across exactly what a perverse, racist cult that zionism actually is. Too many amerikans still swallow the peace & love, we live on a kibbutz, man, without realising the bits about zionism that are being kept quiet.
As Shahak stresses from time to time in this book, none of these unspoken truths about zionism are publicised but when necessary the knesset has quietly provided legislative and even constitutional support for them.
It is definitely time the world learned the facts about how downright evil zionism is.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 11 2023 9:39 utc | 39

Operation Necroführer Rising.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 11 2023 9:41 utc | 41

@ADB | Nov 11 2023 9:25 utc | 15
I agree, it is a desperate move to provoke Hezbollah, hoping to draw in the US. It shows how precarious the situation is, according to the Zionists.

Wanna bet Putin or Iran are telling Hezbollah “Never do what the enemy wants”?

Indeed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:43 utc | 43

A stand out section of the quotes by Debsisdead…
” I asked them whether such behaviour was consistent with their interpretation of the Jewish religion. They answered that the Jew in question had behaved correctly, indeed piously, and backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:47 utc | 45

There are many issues where I have not understood until today exactly what was going on and why. For example, the “official narrative” on Rwanda genocide is 500,000-800,000…how can you be off by 300,000?
What is most remarkable about Israel-Palestine is that everything is right there in black and white. It’s all documented. Many commenters have provided useful posts / links reviewing the UN role and other historical context. And then in the last 30 years, the crimes of the Israel have been documented in detail by various NGOs. Everything that is being done is done openly and flagrantly.
The more I step back and look at GWOT and everything that happened in the Middle East from 1945 to Gulf War 1991(am less familiar with Africa but so much happened there too), the more I’m coming to the conclusion that the UN was specifically set up to ENABLE US/UK/FR imperial goals mostly in Africa and Middle East (that’s where much of the resources are) without full on war between the powers themselves.
I don’t see WWI and WWII as wars of good vs evil. I see them as European colonial powers slugging it out for colonies in a way that ended up being too brutal and costly for them. So they set up the UN to do it.
The US didn’t really need to join either WWI or WWII, it was prosperous enough at the time and had South and Central America to mess around in. But it needed a seat at the table to share in the spoils of war. Personally I believe that’s why the Zionist movement was formed too. They saw the resources being divided up and they wanted their own seat at that table. It’s only in the last 80 years that you have the technology to kill large numbers of people with zero risk to yourself. Therefore clearly some powers have the upper hand in destroying places if not in occupying them.
In July 1990, I knew Saddam would invade Kuwait but somehow the CIA missed it. The Kuwait invasion was over in a day and Kuwait was part of Iraq anyway before the UK interfered. But what do you know the UN formed the “Coalition of the Willing” and G War 1 happened. Then they sent in UN Weapons Inspection to make sure Iraq had no weapons left. Then they said it did have WMD and attacked again. And again.
Now over 100 UNRWA have died (is it so hard to count how many exactly’) and they’re busy flying flags in mourning. ICRC, WHO, UN, ICJ, ICC, nobody is doing a damn thing. Meanwhile everyone’s raging at Arab / Muslim world to “do something” and defy / motivate their authoritarian rulers when those of us in the free world that supplies Israel with its deadly toys are having such great success in motivating our non-authoritarian and non-repressive rulers.
ps: it seems to me that Israel has “human shields” in terms of its 20% non Jewish population.
Excuse me in advance for shouting but when in human history have ALL HOSPITALS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY BOMBED?

Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 47

I agree, it is a desperate move to provoke Hezbollah, hoping to draw in the US. …
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:43 utc | 22
An extreme form of this argument is the Jews flatten Lebanon “in a desperate attempt to draw Hezbollah in” and they’re advised not to “take the bait”.
I mean, where’s the tripping point?
At some point Hezbollah is going to have to “go for the bait”, or pack up and go home …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 49

Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:36 utc | 17 and Arch at @19.
The difference is that they are armed drones. Shades of Obama and his “zapping”. To me this looks more like Lockheed Martin “trying out” it’s lethal weapons on live targets. (a Vid exists of the yard of Al-Shifa hospital with some poor sod with both legs cut off from the attack).

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 51

Excuse me in advance for shouting but when in human history have ALL HOSPITALS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY BOMBED?
Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
Only Western civilization has ever systematized the destruction of hospitals.
It’s a “Western Value”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:50 utc | 53

Hezbollah’s Next Move
by Suleiman Mourad
this was published 09 November
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/hezbollahs-next-move
“At present, the questions facing Nasrallah’s forces are these. Were they to enter a full-blown war with Israel (and possibly the US), would they be able to stop the Israeli invasion of Gaza and the massacre of tens of thousands of Palestinians? Would they risk decimating Lebanon and inflicting tremendous damage on Hezbollah’s support base? Would they lose thousands of fighters and most of their weapons? Would they jeopardize the accomplishments of the resistance axis in Syria, Iraq and Yemen? What would they stand to gain from this hazardous course of action? The answers are liable to change at any moment. The optimum strategy today might be defunct tomorrow. But as yet, it seems that this is Hamas’s war, not Hezbollah’s.”

Posted by: AG | Nov 11 2023 9:50 utc | 55

Unconfirmed report;
…..Arab League Divided over five important clauses that could not be adopted causing merger of Arab League summit and Organization of Islamic Cooperation summit.
The clauses that were endorsed by 11 states and rejected by 4 states:
1) Preventing the use of American and other military bases in Arab countries to supply Israel with weapons and ammunition.
2) Freezing Arab diplomatic, economic, security and military relations with Israel.
3) Threatening to use oil and Arab economic capabilities to pressure to stop the aggression.
4) Preventing Israeli civil aviation from flying in Arab airspace.
5) Forming an Arab Ministerial Committee that will travel immediately to New York, Washington, Brussels, Geneva, London and Paris in order to convey the Arab Summit’s request to stop the Israeli aggression against Gaza.
Arab Countries that proposed & endorsed the plan:
1) Palestine
2) Syria
3) Algeria
4) Tunisia
5) Iraq
6) Lebanon
7) Kuwait
8) Qatar
9) Oman
10) Libya
11) Yemen…….

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 9:51 utc | 57

Debsisdead @ 20:
That second example from Israel Shahak’s book that you cite is an example of Talmudic Judaism, not Zionism.
Plenty of ultra-Orthodox Jews are not Zionists: some of them are actually even opposed to the notion of a Jewish state, until all Jews adhere to Talmudic law, though they may happen to live in Israel anyway.
True, the current belief that Jews must exist as a nation apart from gentiles (because hatred of Jews is an inborn part of gentiles’ inheritance) is part of Zionist ideology – but the belief that Jewish lives are to be valued more than gentile lives was present in Talmudic Judaism before the advent of Zionism in the late 19th century.
The implication is that we can get rid of Zionism but the religious beliefs that infiltrated it in the first place still remain in Talmudic Judaism.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 11 2023 9:55 utc | 59

The problem confronting the usual suspects is at least threefold:
1) The average “man in the street” globally is daily confronted with pictures of atrocities carried out by weapons supplied by the West, notably the US and UK, and utilized by their proxy, Israel. This is parallel to the situation in Ukraine for the past two (maybe eight!) years, but this time much more vividly and much more difficult to rationalize or justify. The longer this goes on the less tolerance local populations have for governments that either stand by and do nothing or actively support what is plainly, not only apartheid but in-your-face, ongoing genocide. The longer this continues the less effective angry words by Arab states will be at backing off/appeasing public outrage; at some point they will actually have to Do Something. At this point, Turkey seems to be taking the lead in moving beyond verbiage to economic consequences. Is an oil embargo around the corner??
2) As the Russians in Ukraine, the Palestinians, supported by a broader community and led by Russia, are playing a war of attrition. The usual suspects win a short war; they are bled white in a long one. Again, we have seen that regarding Ukraine, with the economies of the EU bled white by the backfiring of sanctions – economic war on Russia.
3) BDS is going to heat up, and it is something the Zionists and their neocon and European partners in global grift, seriously fear and have done their best to tamp down via a combination of ostracism and getting states/nations to pass laws making its support illegal or subject to financial penalties. Economic sanctions strangled South African apartheid. I don’t see why that is not a predictable outcome for Israel.
As a result of these three factors, the odds are that the longer genocide goes on, the more likely the global majority will win and the “West” will lose Big Time – bigger than in Ukraine. There is an increasing likelihood that not only will the US be pushed out of the Middle East (see the ongoing attacks on US military bases in Iraq and Syria) but that countries will combine diplomatic recognition of Palestine with a withdrawal of recognition from Israel, which may become a pariah state. Those that remain in Israel will be theocratic ideologues who will lack the economic support to resist incorporation in a Palestinian majority One State. Occupiers will always be welcome in Brooklyn or in the Russian oblast hard on the Chinese border that was long ago set aside as a Jewish refuge.
Each day that goes by without activating the US military on a bombing campaign over Lebanon, Syria, etc. makes that outcome less likely. In the meantime, we sit back and watch snipers pick off women and children at Gaza hospitals.

Posted by: Joseph Dillard | Nov 11 2023 9:58 utc | 61

Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:47 utc | 23
“backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century.”
This is a recognized technique, About 25 years ago I had long, relatively academic arguments via internet, with a person who regularly referred me to books “written” as his “proof”. They were probably written by him or his mates. As I didn’t know any of the “sources, the conversation ended after a few weeks.
All he succceeded in doing was; instead of “Jews” being responsible for all sorts of Empires, he convinced me that each time “they were involved”, the Empire collapsed. (Always assuming that they were ALWAYS part of Kingdoms and Empires from way back.)
***
Off now. Have a nice day.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 10:01 utc | 63

Massive pro-Palestinian demo this afternoon in London: “hundreds of thousands expected”. The Powers That Be are so affeared, that there’s been a vast barrage of attempts to delegitimize it in the media. All about how it’s defiling commemoration of the armistice in 1918 (which was no longer seriously commemorated until after 2010 when Cameron restored commemoration on the 11th from where it had been shoved back to the nearest Sunday). The Israel Lobby has been working overtime. They’ve been suggesting there will be violence and attempts to defile the Cenotaph, although there’s no evidence of prospective violence. Evidently rented hooligans are going to be introduced into the march who are going to break off and attack the cenotaph.
It’s the prospective numbers that are causing the problem: some like to suggest up to a million. The demos are gathering pace; popular revolt, as predicted, is beginning to have an effect on political manoeuvres. The effects will only get more unless Netanyahu agrees to stop (which he won’t). It’s going to be catastrophic for Israel unless it changes its path. The Arab states are absolutely united, because they are forced to be by popular sentiment (note that we’re still getting hasbarists telling us that Arab states don’t care about Palestinians: that is completely wrong). Likely that the US will waver in the end, because supporting genocide is not a good look.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 11 2023 10:06 utc | 65

Overview of Hezbollah military strikes on Friday
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1971290

Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 10:09 utc | 67

re Refinnejenna | Nov 11 2023 9:55 utc I believe you are unnecessarily nit-picking because:
A) Whatever israelis may say as Shahak points out whenever push comes to shove on these issues, the Knesset provides the backing for talmudic/rabbinical law.
Kahane wasn’t arseholed for his beliefs, he was pushed outta politics because he drew attention to what a ‘jewish’ state actually meant. Netanyahu & co the mob consistently put in government by jews in israel, have been recorded many times spouting the same stuff as Kahane.
Checkout what the ‘hilltop youth’ get up to for kicks and giggles. (sorry bout facebook link u can view without signing in)
B) The only way these zionist/rabbinical racist beliefs can be realised is via the existence of an israeli state. As we have seen in the past israel when smaller creates the conditions so that it can expand. israel cannot be allowed to continue to exist – not if the world wants to avoid slaughter and chaos.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 11 2023 10:19 utc | 69

Re: Refinnejenna @30
I am currently reading a good book on this subject by a guy called Michael Hoffman, titled “Judaism Discovered”. It goes into detail on how Tulmudic Judaism is a Supremacist cult based on deception. A useful backgrounder if one can bring oneself to wade through the evidence. It’s a big book – over 1,000 pages.

Posted by: Phalanges | Nov 11 2023 10:28 utc | 71

Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
“In July 1990, I knew Saddam would invade Kuwait but somehow the CIA missed it. The Kuwait invasion was over in a day and Kuwait was part of Iraq anyway before the UK interfered. ”
Actually, Saddam Hussein did exactly what the enemy wanted. April Glaspie, the US ambassador to Iraq told Sadamm , effectively, that he could invade Kuwait.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/01/09/wikileaks-april-glaspie-and-saddam-hussein/

Posted by: canuck | Nov 11 2023 10:33 utc | 73

Israel has crossed all red lines of humanity. Currently, they have all hospitals under siege; killing all that try to go in and out, cutting off all food, water, electricity necessary for sustainment. Check out Al-jazeera. Watching this stuff makes a person have to vomit. It should be clear to all by now Biden and Nutandyahoo are partners in war crime. All, work to get these guys out of the offices they are sitting in. They are sick pups.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Nov 11 2023 10:45 utc | 75

At some point Hezbollah is going to have to “go for the bait”, or pack up and go home …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 25
—
“Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes”.
Patience.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 11 2023 10:48 utc | 77

This war was Netanyahu’s salvation: he and his cabinet were under heavy political pressure. As soon as the war ends, his government may fall, so his aim is to keep the war going on as much as possible.

Posted by: SG | Nov 11 2023 10:53 utc | 79

Just as the situation in Ukraine is a “stalemate”, the situation in Gaza is a “stalemate”. A way out is to open yet another front. In Ukraine that other front was… Gaza. In Gaza that other front is Lebanon. But Israel may get more than it bargained for in Yemen and the West Bank. Plus, the US is in trouble in Syria and in Iraq due to its own illegal occupation in those countries.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:12 utc | 81

As a doctor who took an oath and has had to deal with violence(war and other human disasters) and it’s ugly underbelly I find this article very disturbing:
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/11/israel-is-bombing-hospitals-in-gaza-with-israeli-doctors-approval

Posted by: doctor ug | Nov 11 2023 11:21 utc | 83

Ah yes, hospitals in Gaza! ..with command of fire positions beneath them. Snipers make more sense than bombs don’t they?
Or “kids” in Gaza! … 100% brainwashed to hate Jews even to become human bombs; the niceties of Islam.
Or your friendly neighborhood kidnappers from Gaza: poor guys!
Or shooting thousands of rockets at your neighbors, innocent fun.
Or having a 15 km long border with a country of the same ethnicity and religion but pretending to be a Ghetto or concentration camp.
Woke hypocrite Islam deniers have concurred MoA and other “left”overs.
Over and out b!

Posted by: Antonym | Nov 11 2023 11:25 utc | 85

Snipers is the preferred MO of regime change. It’s basically the way to use professionally trained toffs from Sandhurst to anonymously ignite a conflagration which justify British bombing capabilities when out of range of Russian military opposition.
This finally answers the deeper question about whether the Muslim Brotherhood is still with USUKIS or has started to oppose it as I had hoped , with 7/10. Hamas , unlike Nasrallah’s BS, only does what it’s told .
Us cha change, plus ch’est la fucking meme choshe.
So, in short , we now know that Erdogans don’t change their spots, and Turkey is fully on board with Nutty and Nappy ‘s Middle East Map Change. That just makes life so much simpler, because Putin has already dealt with USUKIS Islamists in Syria, and understands that stupid game.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 11 2023 11:26 utc | 87

Nasrallah is going to deliver a speech at 13:00 GMT (14:00 CET, in about 1.5 hours from now), you can watch it here:
* Press TV
* Odysee
* Rumble
* X
* Roku

Posted by: Zet | Nov 11 2023 11:33 utc | 89

As a doctor who took an oath and has had to deal with violence(war and other human disasters) and it’s ugly underbelly I find this article very disturbing:
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/11/israel-is-bombing-hospitals-in-gaza-with-israeli-doctors-approval
Posted by: doctor ug | Nov 11 2023 11:21 utc | 42
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12382662/

Posted by: newbie | Nov 11 2023 11:37 utc | 91

Sometimes for no apoarent reason English and Arabic words co-
incide in.meaning.
Earth- Ardh. Fitna- Fitness centre.
And now , Tackier- Taqiyya.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 11 2023 11:39 utc | 93

The West wants war to mitigate its financial collapse and will escalate atrocities until the desired result is achieved.
All out war will multiply the current death toll 1000 times or more. Hence the restraint.
The number of people instigating this policy is very small.
Who are they? The World needs their names, (and addresses).

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Nov 11 2023 11:39 utc | 95

The more we hear about the Hamas command centres under the hospitals, the more one is reminded of the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Or the fantastic complex in Tora Bora in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:47 utc | 97

Today in the news: Israel is considering making a deal with Hamas about the release of civilian hostages. Wow! Why didn’t they think of that earlier?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:56 utc | 99