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Elijah J. Magnier đȘđș @ejmalrai - 7:21 UTC · Nov 11, 2023This is THE most serious attack and escalation for many years & its consequences are critical, much more than what the eye can see:
#Israeli warplanes attack a truck in Zahrani, south of Lebanon, 40 kilometres from the border, breaking all red lines in #Lebanon after #Syria.
The escalation between #Israel and #Hezbollah has started TODAY (you may disagree if you don't see the full picture).
It seems the occupation of north of #Gaza won't take too long and @netanyahu doesn't mind starting a war on another front.
The next hours/days are crucial.
Can you imagine to live or even sit next to this sniper?
One person killed, many children wounded after Israeli snipers target al-Quds hospital, according to Palestinian Red CrescentThe Red Cross statement calling for the protection of patients, healthcare workers, medical facilities in Gaza comes as the Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PCRS) said Israeli forces opened fire on the intensive care unit at al-Quds hospital in Gaza City.
One person was killed and 28 others were wounded in sniper fire by Israeli forces at the hospital, the organisation said.
The majority of the injured were children, it said, two of whom are in critical condition.
Posted by b on November 11, 2023 at 7:38 UTC | Permalink
next page »as I just wrote in the other thread, Notes on the War, about Elijah's news from a short while ago of the attack in Lebanon and the escalation which will now follow:
all hell is going to break lose now on the northern Lebanese front.
Just as many have written, the US strategy all along has been to try to force Israel to open a serious northern front against Hezbollah, and then take it to Syria.... and beyond
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2023 8:01 utc | 2
"It seems the occupation of north of #Gaza won't take too long"
I am not sure I would agree with that. Others think that Israel is making less good progress than it claims. Me I think that putting tanks on the surface is not the same as clearing tunnels 60m down.
A madness seems to have got into the Israelis, and it's possible they will go on to attack Hizbullah, but I don't think it is well calculated. If Israel thinks it's safe as there are several US aircraft carriers offshore, it is wrong, I think. The level of anti-Israel rage over Gaza is enough to make any outside power think twice about going to war at Israel's side. Even Macron has called for a ceasefire and a stop to Israeli killing of civilians: others will follow.
Posted by: laguerre | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 3
The murderous madness initiated by the Zionists in occupied Palestine is not sustainable morally, politically, militarily or economically. I suspect economics is going to kill the colonial project called Israel. Morally and politically, by killing the Palestinians, Israel makes the point it does not have the right to exist in its current form.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 4
Likud wants to escalate and draw in all
those USN Carrier Aircraft to carpet bomb the Levant .
The IDFs favorite marching song âŠ. onward Christian soldiers
Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 8:03 utc | 5
I am not so sure that is a major escalation but he has a better finger on the current pulse of the region than I do. No one is doing much of anything to stop this for what I think are obvious reasons I posted in the last thread. At this point Turkey and the Persians are the only possible brake on this ethnic cleansing and that will only happen if their troops start to march on Israel.
I do not think Hezbollah is going all in unless the Persians join them fully. Turkey, despite ErdoÄan, has had a long and deeply secret connection with Israel and their spin off gentile institutions in the region who are deeply misunderstood and deeply hidden.
Posted by: circumspect | Nov 11 2023 8:21 utc | 6
BINGO!
Happy butcher days 11th november.
The war is that we have to change. Hezbolah will win by being moderate. Don't over enjoy about the worst. It is never certain.
Happy adrenaline!
even if out of stress this small thought:
Letâs be psychohistorian a while, barflies !
We admit easily that the violence made to the palestinians will triger violence in some or many of them. We even might kind of hope they will turn their violence toward the perpetrors of that violence.
We agree also there is nazism, sionism, islamophobia, racism, and even some would agree there is antisemitism and israelo-cruelty (the israeli turning cruels).
And we might stay happy and confused, thinking this is bad, this is right. Those are bad, those are right.
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If we stay quiter, we could see the Germans were in a huge disarray in the 1920s before nazism took hold of them as a nation, that extrem-papism pushed for pogroms which push for early-sionism, that antisemitic Shoah left huge scares that turn more than sometimes in israelo-cruelty.
Simply put, deeply injuried people might tend to become violent or cruel. (even if some would turn mild-thinker and carer, humans are not uniform).
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And there is a second source of violence and cruelty, smoother and worse : it is greed. Unregulated capitalism. Colonialism. We have rights, they have not. Colonialism, being a mix of greed and gregarity. Bad faith and chauvinism.
The first violence is violence, Rajasic, it hurts to break an inertia. It reacts.
The second violence is Tamasic, it lives on inertia and promotes it. It amalgamates. The power of blind ideology lies here. (Max Weber stated : the chains on people lies in the inertia of the well-thinking).
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Emmanuel Todd (French anthropologist) shows nazism came when protestantism stopped being active in Germany. Islamophobia (« je suis Charlie », french gregarism in 2015) when Catholicism was not active anymore in France. (catholic-zombies, as he calls it)Â
A third way is the Sattvic way. Being moderate and aware. Brahmanic, tsadik or man of the Way. Those three moods or gunas change always one for the other. We keep being right on a point of view and we finish apologising the contrary of our first mood.
Religious or moral fundations are living things, which means they are subject to decay and cadaveric rigidity.
The West is decaying as much as he promotes amalgaming stupĂźdities and instrumentalizes justice and institutions. Wars are the times where rigidities break and a new incomplete sense of justice grows. History and religions are the nemesis, the memory of those slow moves. And needs to be constantly renewed.
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Posted by: Baile | Nov 11 2023 8:27 utc | 7
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 8:02 utc | 4
I understand the rage and frustration, but i don't see how it is possible that Israel will lose militarily or how it will ever give up the northern Gaza strip once it takes it. As for politically, I don't think Israel really cares. Nutenyahoo may think it nice to have Macron publicly kiss his ass the way that other western leaders do, but I don't think he spends much time worrying about it one way or the other so long as the US keeps arming him.
As for morals--when did any country ever care about morality?
I would love to be proven wrong, but I fall into the "a single death is a tragedy--a million deaths is a statistic camp" at the moment
Posted by: Zero Sum Game | Nov 11 2023 8:28 utc | 8
zero sum game,
Donât confuse Blind Rage carpet bombing with prevailing Militarily. So far, the IDF has been getting pummeled both on Northern and Southern Fronts. The Pentagon is getting pummeled in Syria. Itâs not even close.
Spend a bit of time researching the Viet Cong Tunnels of Chu Chi.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 8:41 utc | 9
I reckon all those calling for a "pause" before more killing, instead of calling for a cease-fire, are now complicit in a genocide. Possibly they were "told" that there would be short "war" and the Gazans would be expelled into Egypt. End of problem.
It didn't work out that way, and now western "leaders" are visibly supporting mass murder of the weakest. .... and they do not know what to do. Repression, censorship, police brutality no longer work as means of subjucation of normal human beings horror at the unfolding massacres.
The crude exposure of inhumanity is there for anyone with eyes to see, can see.
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Al-Shifa hospital (surroundings mainly) has been bombarded for three days continuously. They cannot go out to bury the dead. With electricity cut in other hospitals, Doctors are operating with light from cell phones, without anesthetics. The latest "Import" from the US is a missile that sends out blades and *just* cuts off legs so as to not damage buildings.
Alshifa hospital yard was bombed by a drone plane ReaperMQ.9 carrying Rocket R9X which doesn't explode but carries blades that cut off limbs and organs immediately
Want to see a woman that had both liegs amputated in the morning and is filmed fleeing towards the south, pushed in a wheelchair? You can, and so can all the rest of the world.
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In other "cheer-up" news, the UK has sent 33 large cargo planes to Israel, No details of cargo have emerged obviously. Radiation from the explosion of UK supplied DU ammunition dump in Ukraine some months ago, has been detected in the UK.
Probably just a move by Biden to force republicans to pass the combined Israel and Ukraine budget
Posted by: bbdrop | Nov 11 2023 9:14 utc | 12
My => Nov 11 2023 9:11 utc | 11
"ReaperMQ.9 carrying Rocket R9X".
Do the Zionists HAVE the reaper MQ.9, or is this proof that the US is DIRECTLY helping to massacre civilians?
@Zero Sum Game | Nov 11 2023 8:28 utc | 8
I understand the rage and frustration, but i don't see how it is possible that Israel will lose militarily or how it will ever give up the northern Gaza strip once it takes it.Not understanding is not in itself an argument. It is not a Zero sum game, the Zionists will run out of resources.
As for politically, I don't think Israel really cares. Nutenyahoo may think it nice to have Macron publicly kiss his ass the way that other western leaders do, but I don't think he spends much time worrying about it one way or the other so long as the US keeps arming him.The difference is that it is no longer up to Israel to care or not. They will run out of resources. As you say, it depends on the US arming them and at some stage that will end. But the economics will bleed them white first.
As for morals--when did any country ever care about morality?Isn't that what the 'west' is fighting for, 'values'? I know, they are liars that no-one believes anymore, even if some did so in the past.
Nobody really knows the future, but one possible scenario within the coming months is that Biden leaves the scene, causing characters like Netanyahu and Zelensky to follow.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:20 utc | 14
Before people get all disappointed if Hezbollah don't retaliate en maase, this looks to me like a desperation move by the Zios. I could be wrong, but I've a hunch the Gaza ground operation isn't going too well, and Bibi is trying to get Hezbollah and Iran to react, thereby drawing in the US. Why lose precious Jewish lives on the ground in Gaza when you can get those goy US Marines to do it for you?
Wanna bet Putin or Iran are telling Hezbollah "Never do what the enemy wants"?
Posted by: ADB | Nov 11 2023 9:25 utc | 15
Breaking news, 39 newborn infants in incubators have now died due to Israeli bombing.
Posted by: fingrinn | Nov 11 2023 9:33 utc | 16
Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:17 utc | 13
It is my understanding that the US has been flying those type drones in the combat zone. I think they also come in surveillance models. Have never heard of Israel operating them in the past.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:36 utc | 17
Do the Zionists HAVE the reaper MQ.9, or is this proof that the US is DIRECTLY helping to massacre civilians?
Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:17 utc | 13
Rule of thumb: Other than those crappy merkava chicken broilers, the IDF has nothing significant other than what the Americans loan to them.
This is an American genocide branded and packed in 'Israel', like most of what Isreal produces.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:39 utc | 19
These latest actions are totally in line with what I have been reading about the actual entrenched in state laws aims of zionism, where jews are the only people who count as y'know, people. I wouldn't believe it if what I read hadn't been written a by jewish israeli, human rights activist who survived nazi concentration camps and was one of the few who came out of them believing that never again meant never again for any human, including Palestinians.
"Let me give a more recent illustration of the essential difference which exists between Israeli imperial planning of the most inflated but secular type. and the principles of âJewish ideologyâ. The latter enjoins that land which was either ruled by any Jewish ruler in ancient times or was promised by God to the Jews, either in the Bible or - what is actually more important politically - according to a rabbinic interpretation of the Bible and the Talmud . . .. . . A number of discrepant versions of Biblical borders of the Land of Israel, which rabbinical authorities interpret as ideally belonging to the Jewish state, are in circulation. The most far-reaching among them include the following areas within these borders: in the south, all of Sinai and a part of northern Egypt up to the environs of Cairo; in the east, all of Jordan and a large chunk of Saudi Arabia, all of Kuwait and a part of Iraq south of the Euphrates; in the north, all of Lebanon and all of Syria together with a huge part of Turkey (up to lake Van); and in the west, Cyprus. An enormous body of research and learned discussion based on these borders, embodied in atlases, books, articles and more popular forms of propaganda is being published in Israel, often with state subsidies, or other forms of support.
In another part of his book Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak says:
Those activities began in 1965-6 with a protest which caused a considerable scandal at the time: I had personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighbourhood. Instead of simply publishing the incident in the press, I asked for a meeting with the members of the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, which is composed of rabbis nominated by the State of Israel. I asked them whether such behaviour was consistent with their interpretation of the Jewish religion. They answered that the Jew in question had behaved correctly, indeed piously, and backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century. I reported the incident to the main Hebrew daily, Ha'aretz, whose publication of the story caused a media scandal.The results of the scandal were, for me, rather negative. Neither the Israeli, nor the diaspora, rabbinical authorities ever reversed their ruling that a Jew should not violate the Sabbath in order to save the life of a Gentile.
All of that plus more appears in the 1st Chapter of his book. Doubtless there will be more to come. A big thanks to whoever posted this here last week.
I'm sorry 'bout the copy n pasta but in the circs I felt it vital to get across exactly what a perverse, racist cult that zionism actually is. Too many amerikans still swallow the peace & love, we live on a kibbutz, man, without realising the bits about zionism that are being kept quiet.
As Shahak stresses from time to time in this book, none of these unspoken truths about zionism are publicised but when necessary the knesset has quietly provided legislative and even constitutional support for them.
It is definitely time the world learned the facts about how downright evil zionism is.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 11 2023 9:39 utc | 20
@ADB | Nov 11 2023 9:25 utc | 15
I agree, it is a desperate move to provoke Hezbollah, hoping to draw in the US. It shows how precarious the situation is, according to the Zionists.
Wanna bet Putin or Iran are telling Hezbollah "Never do what the enemy wants"?Indeed.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:43 utc | 22
A stand out section of the quotes by Debsisdead...
" I asked them whether such behaviour was consistent with their interpretation of the Jewish religion. They answered that the Jew in question had behaved correctly, indeed piously, and backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century."
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:47 utc | 23
There are many issues where I have not understood until today exactly what was going on and why. For example, the "official narrative" on Rwanda genocide is 500,000-800,000...how can you be off by 300,000?
What is most remarkable about Israel-Palestine is that everything is right there in black and white. It's all documented. Many commenters have provided useful posts / links reviewing the UN role and other historical context. And then in the last 30 years, the crimes of the Israel have been documented in detail by various NGOs. Everything that is being done is done openly and flagrantly.
The more I step back and look at GWOT and everything that happened in the Middle East from 1945 to Gulf War 1991(am less familiar with Africa but so much happened there too), the more I'm coming to the conclusion that the UN was specifically set up to ENABLE US/UK/FR imperial goals mostly in Africa and Middle East (that's where much of the resources are) without full on war between the powers themselves.
I don't see WWI and WWII as wars of good vs evil. I see them as European colonial powers slugging it out for colonies in a way that ended up being too brutal and costly for them. So they set up the UN to do it.
The US didn't really need to join either WWI or WWII, it was prosperous enough at the time and had South and Central America to mess around in. But it needed a seat at the table to share in the spoils of war. Personally I believe that's why the Zionist movement was formed too. They saw the resources being divided up and they wanted their own seat at that table. It's only in the last 80 years that you have the technology to kill large numbers of people with zero risk to yourself. Therefore clearly some powers have the upper hand in destroying places if not in occupying them.
In July 1990, I knew Saddam would invade Kuwait but somehow the CIA missed it. The Kuwait invasion was over in a day and Kuwait was part of Iraq anyway before the UK interfered. But what do you know the UN formed the "Coalition of the Willing" and G War 1 happened. Then they sent in UN Weapons Inspection to make sure Iraq had no weapons left. Then they said it did have WMD and attacked again. And again.
Now over 100 UNRWA have died (is it so hard to count how many exactly') and they're busy flying flags in mourning. ICRC, WHO, UN, ICJ, ICC, nobody is doing a damn thing. Meanwhile everyone's raging at Arab / Muslim world to "do something" and defy / motivate their authoritarian rulers when those of us in the free world that supplies Israel with its deadly toys are having such great success in motivating our non-authoritarian and non-repressive rulers.
ps: it seems to me that Israel has "human shields" in terms of its 20% non Jewish population.
Excuse me in advance for shouting but when in human history have ALL HOSPITALS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY BOMBED?
Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
I agree, it is a desperate move to provoke Hezbollah, hoping to draw in the US. ...
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 9:43 utc | 22
An extreme form of this argument is the Jews flatten Lebanon "in a desperate attempt to draw Hezbollah in" and they're advised not to "take the bait".
I mean, where's the tripping point?
At some point Hezbollah is going to have to "go for the bait", or pack up and go home ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 25
Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:36 utc | 17 and Arch at @19.
The difference is that they are armed drones. Shades of Obama and his "zapping". To me this looks more like Lockheed Martin "trying out" it's lethal weapons on live targets. (a Vid exists of the yard of Al-Shifa hospital with some poor sod with both legs cut off from the attack).
Excuse me in advance for shouting but when in human history have ALL HOSPITALS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY BOMBED?
Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
Only Western civilization has ever systematized the destruction of hospitals.
It's a "Western Value".
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:50 utc | 27
Hezbollahâs Next Move
by Suleiman Mourad
this was published 09 November
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/hezbollahs-next-move
"At present, the questions facing Nasrallahâs forces are these. Were they to enter a full-blown war with Israel (and possibly the US), would they be able to stop the Israeli invasion of Gaza and the massacre of tens of thousands of Palestinians? Would they risk decimating Lebanon and inflicting tremendous damage on Hezbollahâs support base? Would they lose thousands of fighters and most of their weapons? Would they jeopardize the accomplishments of the resistance axis in Syria, Iraq and Yemen? What would they stand to gain from this hazardous course of action? The answers are liable to change at any moment. The optimum strategy today might be defunct tomorrow. But as yet, it seems that this is Hamasâs war, not Hezbollahâs."
Posted by: AG | Nov 11 2023 9:50 utc | 28
Unconfirmed report;
âŠ..Arab League Divided over five important clauses that could not be adopted causing merger of Arab League summit and Organization of Islamic Cooperation summit.
The clauses that were endorsed by 11 states and rejected by 4 states:
1) Preventing the use of American and other military bases in Arab countries to supply Israel with weapons and ammunition.
2) Freezing Arab diplomatic, economic, security and military relations with Israel.
3) Threatening to use oil and Arab economic capabilities to pressure to stop the aggression.
4) Preventing Israeli civil aviation from flying in Arab airspace.
5) Forming an Arab Ministerial Committee that will travel immediately to New York, Washington, Brussels, Geneva, London and Paris in order to convey the Arab Summitâs request to stop the Israeli aggression against Gaza.
Arab Countries that proposed & endorsed the plan:
1) Palestine
2) Syria
3) Algeria
4) Tunisia
5) Iraq
6) Lebanon
7) Kuwait
8) Qatar
9) Oman
10) Libya
11) YemenâŠâŠ.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 9:51 utc | 29
Debsisdead @ 20:
That second example from Israel Shahak's book that you cite is an example of Talmudic Judaism, not Zionism.
Plenty of ultra-Orthodox Jews are not Zionists: some of them are actually even opposed to the notion of a Jewish state, until all Jews adhere to Talmudic law, though they may happen to live in Israel anyway.
True, the current belief that Jews must exist as a nation apart from gentiles (because hatred of Jews is an inborn part of gentiles' inheritance) is part of Zionist ideology - but the belief that Jewish lives are to be valued more than gentile lives was present in Talmudic Judaism before the advent of Zionism in the late 19th century.
The implication is that we can get rid of Zionism but the religious beliefs that infiltrated it in the first place still remain in Talmudic Judaism.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 11 2023 9:55 utc | 30
The problem confronting the usual suspects is at least threefold:
1) The average âman in the streetâ globally is daily confronted with pictures of atrocities carried out by weapons supplied by the West, notably the US and UK, and utilized by their proxy, Israel. This is parallel to the situation in Ukraine for the past two (maybe eight!) years, but this time much more vividly and much more difficult to rationalize or justify. The longer this goes on the less tolerance local populations have for governments that either stand by and do nothing or actively support what is plainly, not only apartheid but in-your-face, ongoing genocide. The longer this continues the less effective angry words by Arab states will be at backing off/appeasing public outrage; at some point they will actually have to Do Something. At this point, Turkey seems to be taking the lead in moving beyond verbiage to economic consequences. Is an oil embargo around the corner??
2) As the Russians in Ukraine, the Palestinians, supported by a broader community and led by Russia, are playing a war of attrition. The usual suspects win a short war; they are bled white in a long one. Again, we have seen that regarding Ukraine, with the economies of the EU bled white by the backfiring of sanctions - economic war on Russia.
3) BDS is going to heat up, and it is something the Zionists and their neocon and European partners in global grift, seriously fear and have done their best to tamp down via a combination of ostracism and getting states/nations to pass laws making its support illegal or subject to financial penalties. Economic sanctions strangled South African apartheid. I donât see why that is not a predictable outcome for Israel.
As a result of these three factors, the odds are that the longer genocide goes on, the more likely the global majority will win and the âWestâ will lose Big Time - bigger than in Ukraine. There is an increasing likelihood that not only will the US be pushed out of the Middle East (see the ongoing attacks on US military bases in Iraq and Syria) but that countries will combine diplomatic recognition of Palestine with a withdrawal of recognition from Israel, which may become a pariah state. Those that remain in Israel will be theocratic ideologues who will lack the economic support to resist incorporation in a Palestinian majority One State. Occupiers will always be welcome in Brooklyn or in the Russian oblast hard on the Chinese border that was long ago set aside as a Jewish refuge.
Each day that goes by without activating the US military on a bombing campaign over Lebanon, Syria, etc. makes that outcome less likely. In the meantime, we sit back and watch snipers pick off women and children at Gaza hospitals.
Posted by: Joseph Dillard | Nov 11 2023 9:58 utc | 31
Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 9:47 utc | 23
"backed their statement by referring me to a passage in an authoritative compendium of Talmudic laws, written in this century."
This is a recognized technique, About 25 years ago I had long, relatively academic arguments via internet, with a person who regularly referred me to books "written" as his "proof". They were probably written by him or his mates. As I didn't know any of the "sources, the conversation ended after a few weeks.
All he succceeded in doing was; instead of "Jews" being responsible for all sorts of Empires, he convinced me that each time "they were involved", the Empire collapsed. (Always assuming that they were ALWAYS part of Kingdoms and Empires from way back.)
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Off now. Have a nice day.
Massive pro-Palestinian demo this afternoon in London: "hundreds of thousands expected". The Powers That Be are so affeared, that there's been a vast barrage of attempts to delegitimize it in the media. All about how it's defiling commemoration of the armistice in 1918 (which was no longer seriously commemorated until after 2010 when Cameron restored commemoration on the 11th from where it had been shoved back to the nearest Sunday). The Israel Lobby has been working overtime. They've been suggesting there will be violence and attempts to defile the Cenotaph, although there's no evidence of prospective violence. Evidently rented hooligans are going to be introduced into the march who are going to break off and attack the cenotaph.
It's the prospective numbers that are causing the problem: some like to suggest up to a million. The demos are gathering pace; popular revolt, as predicted, is beginning to have an effect on political manoeuvres. The effects will only get more unless Netanyahu agrees to stop (which he won't). It's going to be catastrophic for Israel unless it changes its path. The Arab states are absolutely united, because they are forced to be by popular sentiment (note that we're still getting hasbarists telling us that Arab states don't care about Palestinians: that is completely wrong). Likely that the US will waver in the end, because supporting genocide is not a good look.
Posted by: laguerre | Nov 11 2023 10:06 utc | 33
Overview of Hezbollah military strikes on Friday
https://english.almanar.com.lb/1971290
Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 10:09 utc | 34
re Refinnejenna | Nov 11 2023 9:55 utc I believe you are unnecessarily nit-picking because:
A) Whatever israelis may say as Shahak points out whenever push comes to shove on these issues, the Knesset provides the backing for talmudic/rabbinical law.
Kahane wasn't arseholed for his beliefs, he was pushed outta politics because he drew attention to what a 'jewish' state actually meant. Netanyahu & co the mob consistently put in government by jews in israel, have been recorded many times spouting the same stuff as Kahane.
Checkout what the 'hilltop youth' get up to for kicks and giggles. (sorry bout facebook link u can view without signing in)
B) The only way these zionist/rabbinical racist beliefs can be realised is via the existence of an israeli state. As we have seen in the past israel when smaller creates the conditions so that it can expand. israel cannot be allowed to continue to exist - not if the world wants to avoid slaughter and chaos.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 11 2023 10:19 utc | 35
Re: Refinnejenna @30
I am currently reading a good book on this subject by a guy called Michael Hoffman, titled âJudaism Discoveredâ. It goes into detail on how Tulmudic Judaism is a Supremacist cult based on deception. A useful backgrounder if one can bring oneself to wade through the evidence. Itâs a big book - over 1,000 pages.
Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
"In July 1990, I knew Saddam would invade Kuwait but somehow the CIA missed it. The Kuwait invasion was over in a day and Kuwait was part of Iraq anyway before the UK interfered. "
Actually, Saddam Hussein did exactly what the enemy wanted. April Glaspie, the US ambassador to Iraq told Sadamm , effectively, that he could invade Kuwait.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/01/09/wikileaks-april-glaspie-and-saddam-hussein/
Israel has crossed all red lines of humanity. Currently, they have all hospitals under siege; killing all that try to go in and out, cutting off all food, water, electricity necessary for sustainment. Check out Al-jazeera. Watching this stuff makes a person have to vomit. It should be clear to all by now Biden and Nutandyahoo are partners in war crime. All, work to get these guys out of the offices they are sitting in. They are sick pups.
Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Nov 11 2023 10:45 utc | 38
At some point Hezbollah is going to have to "go for the bait", or pack up and go home ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 25
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"Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes".
Patience.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 11 2023 10:48 utc | 39
This war was Netanyahu's salvation: he and his cabinet were under heavy political pressure. As soon as the war ends, his government may fall, so his aim is to keep the war going on as much as possible.
Posted by: SG | Nov 11 2023 10:53 utc | 40
Just as the situation in Ukraine is a "stalemate", the situation in Gaza is a "stalemate". A way out is to open yet another front. In Ukraine that other front was... Gaza. In Gaza that other front is Lebanon. But Israel may get more than it bargained for in Yemen and the West Bank. Plus, the US is in trouble in Syria and in Iraq due to its own illegal occupation in those countries.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:12 utc | 41
As a doctor who took an oath and has had to deal with violence(war and other human disasters) and it's ugly underbelly I find this article very disturbing:
Posted by: doctor ug | Nov 11 2023 11:21 utc | 42
Ah yes, hospitals in Gaza! ..with command of fire positions beneath them. Snipers make more sense than bombs don't they?
Or "kids" in Gaza! ... 100% brainwashed to hate Jews even to become human bombs; the niceties of Islam.
Or your friendly neighborhood kidnappers from Gaza: poor guys!
Or shooting thousands of rockets at your neighbors, innocent fun.
Or having a 15 km long border with a country of the same ethnicity and religion but pretending to be a Ghetto or concentration camp.
Woke hypocrite Islam deniers have concurred MoA and other "left"overs.
Over and out b!
Posted by: Antonym | Nov 11 2023 11:25 utc | 43
Snipers is the preferred MO of regime change. It's basically the way to use professionally trained toffs from Sandhurst to anonymously ignite a conflagration which justify British bombing capabilities when out of range of Russian military opposition.
This finally answers the deeper question about whether the Muslim Brotherhood is still with USUKIS or has started to oppose it as I had hoped , with 7/10. Hamas , unlike Nasrallah's BS, only does what it's told .
Us cha change, plus ch'est la fucking meme choshe.
So, in short , we now know that Erdogans don't change their spots, and Turkey is fully on board with Nutty and Nappy 's Middle East Map Change. That just makes life so much simpler, because Putin has already dealt with USUKIS Islamists in Syria, and understands that stupid game.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 11 2023 11:26 utc | 44
Nasrallah is going to deliver a speech at 13:00 GMT (14:00 CET, in about 1.5 hours from now), you can watch it here:
* Press TV
* Odysee
* Rumble
* X
* Roku
Posted by: Zet | Nov 11 2023 11:33 utc | 45
As a doctor who took an oath and has had to deal with violence(war and other human disasters) and it's ugly underbelly I find this article very disturbing:
Posted by: doctor ug | Nov 11 2023 11:21 utc | 42
âThe thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.â
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12382662/
Posted by: newbie | Nov 11 2023 11:37 utc | 46
Sometimes for no apoarent reason English and Arabic words co-
incide in.meaning.
Earth- Ardh. Fitna- Fitness centre.
And now , Tackier- Taqiyya.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 11 2023 11:39 utc | 47
The West wants war to mitigate its financial collapse and will escalate atrocities until the desired result is achieved.
All out war will multiply the current death toll 1000 times or more. Hence the restraint.
The number of people instigating this policy is very small.
Who are they? The World needs their names, (and addresses).
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Nov 11 2023 11:39 utc | 48
The more we hear about the Hamas command centres under the hospitals, the more one is reminded of the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Or the fantastic complex in Tora Bora in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:47 utc | 49
Today in the news: Israel is considering making a deal with Hamas about the release of civilian hostages. Wow! Why didn't they think of that earlier?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:56 utc | 50
Muslims started this massacre.
Posted by: Phil | Nov 11 2023 12:14 utc | 51
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Yes. They were responsible for the Balfour Declaration.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 11 2023 12:16 utc | 51
Phil @ 51: "The biggest victim-blaming..."
Ah yes, Jews are the eternal victims and never oppress anybody, right "Phil"?
Why don't you look up the IDF's "Two shots one kill" t-shirts? Or have you already got one?
Posted by: ADB | Nov 11 2023 12:21 utc | 52
Or we may look at it this way: just as one of the Crusades was repelled by "the Muslims" in the Holy Land and the Crusaders - in their frustration - smashed Constantinople instead, the modern crusaders tried to smash Moscow (the third Rome) first and when they got repelled they smashed the Muslims in the Holy Land instead.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 12:32 utc | 53
i was just about to comment on how sniper fire has nothing to do with Hamas strongholds under hospitals when Antonym tries to justify it as being a military response to Hamas strongholds under hospitals. in other news, Tulsi Gabbard now shilling for genocide.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 11 2023 12:39 utc | 54
It's obvious that Netangoogle does not give a crap about Israeli lives, also.
Posted by: Viktor | Nov 11 2023 12:40 utc | 55
Muslims started this massacre. Immediately afterwards, for 1-2 days, you could see them all celebrating the death of the infidels,
Posted by: Phil | Nov 11 2023 12:14 utc | 51
They had every right to celebrate and at least they had that much experience of what it feels like to slip out from under the Jewish jackboot, even for a moment.
They were celebrating an attempt to lift the siege and slow strangulation of their people.
Who wouldn't celebrate.
You neglect to mention, as all the hasbara trolls including Antonym and his five rupee army do, that these Jews you speak of are European colonists involved in settler colonialism.
Palestinians have the right to resistance.
The butchery of every single 'Israeli' is fair and justified up to the point they beg for peace and agree to a one state solution.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 12:41 utc | 56
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 11 2023 11:39 utc | 47
All languages come from the united language of the future.
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 11 2023 12:42 utc | 57
Despite efforts of trolls/zombies in MsN and in MoA too, it's evident that, recent actions by Israel (government) and they backers, had destroyed decades if not centuries of hasbara.
Posted by: Mario | Nov 11 2023 12:43 utc | 58
Ah yes, hospitals in Gaza! ..with command of fire positions beneath them. Snipers make more sense than bombs don't they?
Posted by: Antonym | Nov 11 2023 11:25 utc | 43
Proof? Put up or shut up you hindutva cow fucker.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 12:44 utc | 59
Let's see how the Arab Nations summit hosted by Saudi Arabia play out. đ
Posted by: Mario | Nov 11 2023 12:46 utc | 60
Snipers ? Shooting children in a hospital? Are they Georgians?
Attack on Lebanon? A wholly expected retaliation to follow?
Well all these naval sitting ducks in the Red Sea ainât going to sink by themselves!
They need to incite some fireworks. Then scuttle. Whilst burning.
My guess is there will be thousands declared natzo dead.
Burnt beyond recognition.
Ahem.
Just as the the defeat ( er victory ) is a declared by Kiev and withdrawal across the Dnieper. The reports of demoralised troops walking away from the battlefields are growing there.
The meeting in Riyadh with Iran and Syria is where itâs at.
Erdo appears to be sidelined as well as Modi. Unless they send boots in on behalf of the Natzios. Xi and Putin ainât fooling around - the new Yalta Agreement is ready. No other reason for Xi to meet with US Exec.
Meanwhile a beautiful sunny morning on this 11th November as we âcelebrateâ War marches and ban Peace gatherings. The Yaxley-Lenon M15 agit proppers, Zionist and Nazis, are out today in a last ditch attempt at bridging the Red-Brown crowd madness. The Thugs , the My FurKing 8 Cunterry twats. You love your medals so much- well earned as many as you can boyos, the rest are going into to be scrapped l. (That last one is for the yaboo tosser on the Internet last night threatening anyone who said Hamas, Gaza, Iran or Palestinian when he wears his medals - keeping a special eye open for that turd. Snipers shooting children! In a hospital)
We are done as any semblance of civilised humans - time to withdraw from it and hide, like the cannibal troglodytes we always were now just a Collective Waste.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 11 2023 12:46 utc | 61
In other "cheer-up" news, the UK has sent 33 large cargo planes to Israel, No details of cargo have emerged obviously. Radiation from the explosion of UK supplied DU ammunition dump in Ukraine some months ago, has been detected in the UK.
Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 11 2023 9:11 utc | 11
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Do you have link on that? First I heard of it...
There are always wheels within wheels in any given Reality, but as for the tactical kinetics in Gaza it seems relatively clear: they are making the Palestinians 'an offer they can't refuse'.
Basically they are clearing the population out, aka Ethnic Cleansing which is Offer #1. If they refuse to leave then Offer #2 is Genocide, aka 'we kill you'. Offer #3 is 'if you leave we will let you live'.
Some reports are intimating that most of North Gaza is emptied; other reports contradict. But most likely a large percentage of children have been moved to south Gaza with their mothers if not both parents. Then after a while, Gaza South will receive the same Offers.
Looks like Israel's offers, all three, are being accepted. Hamas has not demonstrated any ability to persuade Israel to come up with other offers.
Time for UN to undo what it did in 1947 and stand up to Israeli lobbies, including blackmail and death threats, or (more likely to succeed) for BRICS to step up and broker a Regional Treaty backed with their own Region-based enforcement muscle. Also, perhaps this crisis can be used to instigate substantive UN Reform but IMO it has been a Globalist & Zionist collaboration from the get-go undermining Westphalian States Sovereignty without which all you are left with is vapid or vicious Ideology infested with virulent Evil fomenting Class War and thus, inevitably, mass murder, this century-long Naqba in Palestine being a glaring, but not the only, example.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 12:32 utc | 54
That makes a lot of sense and is corroborated by a historical trend.
The West always needs a victory. Any will do, any crappy third world country they can pick up and throw against a wall to feel good about themselves, and when even that doesn't satisfy they pick on an even weaker one.
But it never satisfies.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 12:53 utc | 63
PQ 24; the UN never said Iraq had WMD, in fact the inspectors utterly destroyed Powell's every point. I actually heard that live in NPR "special coverage" (I knew the arguments against the WMD claims) and Blix and Baredei ticked every one off; the peace activist had it 100% right. The UN didn't approve; now hearing this live, I was anxious to see how "All Things Considered" (NPR's afternoon program) would handle this block-buster news, NOTHING. I went home and found nothing on the internet that night; so, I listened the next morning to "Morning Edition" I listened to the TV news shows, NOTHING. It was not reported. That was a real eye-opener.
Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 11 2023 13:15 utc | 64
Offer #3 is 'if you leave we will let you live'.
Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 11 2023 12:52 utc | 63
There is no offer #3. Offer #3 is an offer to die quietly in the Sinai desert.
There is only one offer Isr43l has ever made:
Annihilation.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 13:21 utc | 65
The West is escalating itâs atrocities in a clear sign that it knows itâs financial doom is imminent unless all out war can be started pronto. Pure desperation.
There are two solutions.
1) The West sits down with the rest of the World to cooperatively restructure Global finance and Trade.
2) The non West acts to immediately collapse the Westâs Economies making war impossible. (No oil, no war).
Note that if the West gets the War it wants, it wonât be a proxy war, it will be the real thing. War will come home to itâs owners.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Nov 11 2023 13:21 utc | 66
The UN didn't approve; now hearing this live, I was anxious to see how "All Things Considered" (NPR's afternoon program) would handle this block-buster news, NOTHING. I went home and found nothing on the internet that night; so, I listened the next morning to "Morning Edition" I listened to the TV news shows, NOTHING. It was not reported. That was a real eye-opener.
Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 11 2023 13:15 utc | 65
The only accurate obituary i saw in the news about Colin Powell at the time of his death was France24 regarding his false Iraq WMD - it was an eye opener
Posted by: william paul | Nov 11 2023 13:22 utc | 67
Reading Al Manar, I get the impression Hezbollah is pissing all over the meeting of Islamic leaders currently in progress.
They're basically calling it a talk shop.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 13:24 utc | 68
After what Israel has now done in Gaza, there can never be a cry of âwar crimeâ from the West.
Itâs clear as day that all bets are off and the slaughter of civilians is fair game for the rules based order crowd.
Russiaâs prosecution of the war in Ukraine looks like a model of civilized restraint by comparison. I do think this is a side effect that will have ramifications.
Oh, BTW what the Hell is Xi doing about it? Heâs meeting with Genocode Joe essentially endorsing the slaughter just like fake bad boy Erdogan.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 11 2023 13:25 utc | 69
The Guardian Newspaper, a partner in the dissemination of Western Bullshite, presents a barbaric story with measured language - not particularly upset in its reporting of a child-murdering sniper.
Important, you know, for the Guardian to remain "neutral".
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 11 2023 13:34 utc | 70
So how does one go about removing these creatures from the halls of power?
Every institution and judicial body has been usurped by jews
Stiffled robbed and used for experiments / taking our kids for sex projects and mutilations hasnât even budged us.
What does it take to piss the people of JUSA off?
perhaps we are just untermench who deserve their cucking in the Jew World Order
I am disgusted at the human race
Posted by: ld | Nov 11 2023 13:35 utc | 71
ZH reports "US has parked a lot of deadly toys in Mediterranean...", I thought NATO recently showed rather decisively in the Black Sea just how vulnerable Naval vessels and facilities are so the US fills the Med with theirs!
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Nov 11 2023 13:48 utc | 72
No surprise to see Antonym spewing out all the usual hasbara vomit on the site.
Posted by: anon | Nov 11 2023 13:48 utc | 73
Ghost 70. I did note how few civilian deaths (was gonna write "casualties" but that seems too euphemistic) the Ukrainians reported, 2-3 civilians killed in a brutal bombing by Russia. But Israel kills dozens of children targeting hidden underground facilities, an inevitable loss
Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 11 2023 13:49 utc | 74
Ghost 70. I did note how few civilian deaths (was gonna write "casualties" but that seems too euphemistic) the Ukrainians reported, 2-3 civilians killed in a brutal bombing by Russia. But Israel kills dozens of children targeting hidden underground facilities, an inevitable loss
Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 11 2023 13:49 utc | 75
In 18 months we accuse Russia of killing under 10.000 civilians, In Afghanistan we didn't even bother to count, but Israel has killed more in one month??? It's amazing that all our media/political complex have missed this story; must be a mere oversight, not patent double-speak and hypocrisy; we're the good and honorable ones, remember that, DRIVE that narrative home. Meanwhile, wear Camo for the vets, you're helping; grow a beard, crush cancer!
Posted by: scottindallas | Nov 11 2023 13:55 utc | 76
Right on cue, Yaxley Lennon aka Tommy Robinson turns up at the Cenotaph with a bunch of drunk head bangers looking for a punch up, bankrolled by the Israeli embassy and Mossad to the tune of ÂŁ10,000 a month. Maybe they'll lay on another freebie trip to Israel for him so he can dance about on top of an Israeli tank again. Most of these people like Wilders in Holland are all Zionist puppets tasked with stirring up trouble with moslems.
Posted by: anon | Nov 11 2023 14:01 utc | 77
Muslims started this massacre. Immediately afterwards, for 1-2 days, you could see them all celebrating the death of the infidels, no matter if they be Jews or Christians eventually. After a few days the Muslims may have realized that it was not the best idea to so openly celebrate it, and what followed? The biggest victim-blaming whatsoever which you can see in every demonstration on a daily basis.
Posted by: Phil | Nov 11 2023 12:14 utc | 51
Phil this 'massacre' has now been shown to be at least 50% IDF owned. And the Hamas soldiers killing they IDF and the IDF in a panic killed the majority of the civilians. And even so, why wouldn't people celebrate a victory after years, generations of repression?
It's intellectually challenged dullards like your self-I don't think you are a troll as they are a bit cleverer-who don't read history and allow the real massacre that is now occurring in Gaza because of your and the herd's monstrous ignorance.
Rabble like you shouldn't be allowed to vote let alone pontificate..
Posted by: anon | Nov 11 2023 14:01 utc | 78
Tommy Robinson is always asking for money. Another freebie trip to Israel?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 14:06 utc | 79
Likud lies, they always do.
NYTs reporter finally comes clean
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit
Posted by: Exile | Nov 11 2023 14:14 utc | 80
So how does one go about removing these creatures from the halls of power?
Every institution and judicial body has been usurped by jews
Stiffled robbed and used for experiments / taking our kids for sex projects and mutilations hasnât even budged us.
What does it take to piss the people of JUSA off?
perhaps we are just untermench who deserve their cucking in the Jew World Order
I am disgusted at the human race
Posted by: ld | Nov 11 2023 13:35 utc | 72
Your vitriol is not well aimed nor well conceived. Not all jews are Zionists-some of the best commentators -Gabor Mate and his son, Norman Finkelstein are adamantly against this genocide.
As well you should call them Anglo/Zionists-not all Zionists are Jewish
When Churchill's father died, Lord Randolph Churchill in 1895,he owed 60,000 pounds (about $12 MM in today's dollars) to Nathan Rothschild. Mr. Rothschild wrote off the loan yet 25 years later when Churchill was Minister of the Colonies he allowed, kept a blind eye to Jewish illegal immigrants into Palestine.
Churchill was paying off an old 'debt'. He was an Anglo/Zionist. As was the old David Rockefeller ostensibly a Presbyterian he was an Anglo/Zionist.
Trump, Biden, Sunak, both Bushies, Trudeau are Anglo/Zionists as well.
The Anglos let the religious Zionists 'carry the football' and concurrent liability but they are on the same team.
And they are not run by Washington ,they are run by a cabal whose financial tentacles are centered in the City of London.
Hassan Nasrallah Speech:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91491
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91492
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91493
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91494
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/91495
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 14:23 utc | 82
Posted by: pq | Nov 11 2023 9:49 utc | 24
the UN was specifically set up to ENABLE US/UK/FR imperial goals mostly in Africa and Middle East (that's where much of the resources are) without full on war between the powers themselves.
I don't see WWI and WWII as wars of good vs evil. I see them as European colonial powers slugging it out for colonies in a way that ended up being too brutal and costly for them. So they set up the UN to do it.
The US didn't really need to join either WWI or WWII, it was prosperous enough at the time and had South and Central America to mess around in. But it needed a seat at the table to share in the spoils of war. Personally I believe that's why the Zionist movement was formed too. They saw the resources being divided up and they wanted their own seat at that table.
<=I don't see it quite as you do..first off the forces behind these wars and even Israel today, are non state actors but they do have the power to control or at least heavily influence who runs the state. If I have my history right, President Lincoln was killed in 1865.. two more US presidents were killed before the major events took place.. in 1897 was the first Jewish Congress, the bankers organized the slavers into oil men,(generally East and west Indies type people), in 1905 they incited the Russia Jap war, and the first Zionist revolution was incited vs the Ottoman Empire [Young Turks] and the [Bolsheviks took on the Russian Czars BTW they caused three major assassinations to happen in Russia during the same period. The problem for the past spice traders, whalers, and slaver traders turned oil men was the Germans were about to get access to the Ottoman oil which included all of Saudia Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and parts of North Africa
If the Germans gained most favorite access to the Ottoman oil, the western slavers and whalers turned oil men would lose out. hence WWI.. so what was the big event.. It was a financing event, the countries in Europe were broke they needed a financial engine to bail out the banks that lent the money needed needed to take control of the Ottoman oil and block the Germans and Russian from gaining access to it. Presto the constitution of the USA was amended (the 16th amendment<= proposed July 2, 1909, ratified Feb 3, 1913) in order to make room for the worlds largest source of money, the Federal Reserve (the Federal Reserve Act and the income tax law were 1913 laws. U guessed it; the collateral needed to back the banks that were to finance WWI was to be the tax on the incomes of the American Taxpayer. When did you say WWI started?
These same spice traders, whalers, boat owners, slavers and colonizers were the ones that caused Britain to lose its colonies in the Americans in 1776. They were using the military and law making power of government used by the spice traders, whalers, boat owners and colonizers to kill off economic competition to their government guaranteed monopolies in foods, energy and long distance transportation where ever that type of competition reared its ugly head.. anywhere in the world.
Posted by: snake | Nov 11 2023 14:26 utc | 83
Posted by: canuck | Nov 11 2023 14:14 utc | 82
AngloZionist is a pretty good description, especially since the majority of those in Occupied Palestine are not even true jews from the original tribes.
I, however, prefer the term Zionazis as that seems to fit much better.
Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 11 2023 14:29 utc | 84
Doctor Mads Gilbert:"We just got the report from Shifa Hospital that the Israeli attack forces have placed snipers around thr hospital, and these snipers are shooting through the windows of the hospital, killing, targeting, damaging health care workers trying to save lives inside.
One report says a nurse approaching the incubator in the neo natal unit was killed while trying to care for the babies.
The oxygen supply to the incubators are now running out, they're destroyed and shut down.
The doctors report, "We are minutes away from death as the world is watching."
https://t.me/Reality_Theories/15547
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 14:30 utc | 85
Telegraph Headline:
The Houthis have become a dangerous rogue nation. The US Navy could crush them
Ugh ugh!
Grunt!
Grunt!
Oogha
Ooga!
Must kill all opposition!
To our supreme primate rool!
White Ape Tribe Rule Supreme!!!
Grunt! Grunt!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 11 2023 14:45 utc | 87
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 14:23 utc | 83
Thank You
FYI
You are in my top ten at the bar
Posted by: ld | Nov 11 2023 14:52 utc | 88
Iâm not seeing the occupation of north Gaza being quick or anywhere near done. A few tanks penetrating the city is not the same as taking and holding the territory against an insurgent force.
Strikes against Lebanon and/or Hezbollah fairly deep inside Lebanon are not an act of strength but weakness. Hezbollah is slowly chewing up the IDF force posture along the border. Itâs destroying monitoring capability, making it impossible for Israeli settler occupation, plunking troop and material concentrations. Itâs a situation that canât be sustained from the Israeli side *and* Netanyahu desperately needs an escalation to divert attention from his genocide project.
It would make sense for Hezbollah to increase the severity and/or frequency of what itâs already doing along the border. But it should deny Netanyahu the escalation he needs. If anything, the escalation the resistance should pursue is more forceful action on US bases in Iraq and Syria. Wrap Netanyahu around Bidenâs neck. The diplomatic message Iâd send would be, âEvery Israeli escalation in Lebanon will be matched with less restraint on militia actions against US assets in the region.â
A bunch of senators may want a war with Iran, but the reality of that would almost certainly destroy the global economy, which means it would destroy the US economy. With the US having very limited escalation options and the region becoming diplomatically unstable, the best play is to corner the US. It has the highest likelihood of forcing a wedge into the US-Israeli relationship where Biden has to leash Bibi but Bibi cannot allow himself to be leashed. And that has high potential for creating domestic political turmoil in the US (and Israel).
Posted by: Lex | Nov 11 2023 14:55 utc | 89
Posted by: canuck | Nov 11 2023 14:14 utc | 82
Obviously you have not read my comments over the years
assume when I refer to "Jews" on a post such as this I am speaking of Zion and any Jews that support it.
You are preaching to the choir
Posted by: ld | Nov 11 2023 14:59 utc | 90
@ld | Nov 11 2023 14:52 utc | 89
Thank you. It is not a popularity contest.
We we need to know the truth and act on it.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 15:03 utc | 91
Emir of Qatar Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani - at the summit of Arab and Muslim leaders: Just imagine, in the 21st century there are attacks on hospitals. We demand that the UN send an international team to investigate Israeli shelling of hospitals in the Gaza Strip. The international system is going broke, allowing hospitals and residential neighborhoods of refugee camps in Palestine to be bombed. We ask, until when will Israel continue to be above the law and international law?https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73172
Erdogan on the situation in the Gaza Strip: Our first priority is to ensure a ceasefire and the uninterrupted delivery of humanitarian aid. The most urgent thing is not a pause in hostilities for a few hours, but a permanent ceasefire. There have been initiatives for a four-hour ceasefire. We consider such proposals shameful. It is a pity that Western countries, which are always talking about human rights and freedoms, remain silent in the face of the continued killing of Palestinians.https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73173
King Abdullah II of Jordan: The world must condemn the Israeli aggression in Gaza as a war crime. We cannot remain silent about the catastrophic conditions faced by the defenceless people in Gaza and demand that humanitarian corridors be opened as soon as possible. It is unacceptable to deny food, water, electricity and medicine to the civilian population.https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73174
An international coalition is needed to bring about a ceasefire, prevent displacement and begin a serious peace process. If this inhumane war is not stopped, there could be a major clash in the region, its consequences will affect stability and security around the world.
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia: Call for an immediate cessation of hostilities in the Gaza Strip and the release of all hostages. This is a humanitarian disaster that has proven the inability of the international community and the UN Security Council to put an end to Israel's gross violations of international humanitarian law, and to point out the double standards that have been adopted in the world.https://t.me/Slavyangrad/73175
The only way to achieve peace in the region can be to end the Israeli occupation and illegal settlements, restore the rights of the Palestinian people and establish a state with a return to the 1967 borders and with East Jerusalem as its capital.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 11 2023 15:11 utc | 92
The loathsome stenographer Simon Tisdall has a column up talking about China using the Gaza war 'to make the US look bad'. Fuckface, it's the Maericans showing the world who they are without any help.
The panoply of Empire barking clowns are getting increasingly desperate. Tisdall is among the most fascist piece of shit propagandists who buzz around like a outhouse fly. The neofascist eruptions in the UK reflect their desperation. They want to criminalize dissent. Ain't gonna work.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 11 2023 15:15 utc | 93
All these links to Nasrallah speech and not one will open for me. Anyone know where an English transcript is found?
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 11 2023 15:18 utc | 94
Israel and the US are not going to back down until they're forced to. Escalation is all they know. I don't see how this can't but become a much wider war. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Nov 11 2023 15:21 utc | 95
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 11 2023 15:18 utc | 95
This is all I can find at the moment, on Al Jazeera:
Here are some of the highlights:
âThis painful event and these significant crimes prove the Israeli enemy seeks revenge without moral, legal or humanitarian limits. This demonstrates the nature of this entity.
All pressure elements must target the American administration because it is the one holding the decision in the first place.
The most important thing at the moment is the change in world opinion regarding Israel, which is killing thousands of children and women. This transformation is in the interest of the resistance, its project and the population of Gaza, especially through demonstrations in Washington, London, New York ⊠Time is putting pressure on the enemy.
The Islamic Republic of Iran does not decide in place of the resistance movements, but it supports them.
The drone that targeted Eilat two days ago caused great fear in Eilat, and the Israeli enemy acknowledged it. This event was of significant magnitude and importance. Israel was confused when determining the origin of this drone, whether it was from Yemen, Iraq, or elsewhere. In the end, they accused a Hezbollah cell in Syria. Therefore, they bombed Syria, and we lost several martyrs there. This is how Syria pays a heavy price.
To the Americans, I say: If you want the secondary fronts to stop, you must cease the aggression on Gaza.â
Posted by: hedlykarok | Nov 11 2023 15:26 utc | 96
can anyone describe any good that has come out of zionism? has zionism contributed any benefit to mankind? have zionists made the world a better, safer, happier place? can a zionist enter heaven? please help me out here.
Posted by: jstert | Nov 11 2023 15:34 utc | 97
Today in the news: Israel is considering making a deal with Hamas about the release of civilian hostages. Wow! Why didn't they think of that earlier?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Nov 11 2023 11:56 utc | 50
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Perhaps because at first Hamas didn't want any civilians to leave to frustrate Israel's mission. Now after 15,000 deaths they have to let more go and arrange cease fires whilst families make their way South through rubble and grief
@Posted by: anon | Nov 11 2023 14:01 utc | 78
Posted by: canuck | Nov 11 2023 14:14 utc | 82
Posted by: snake | Nov 11 2023 14:26 utc | 84
These football hooligans which form the âTommy armyâ white supremacy English Defence League shouting Engrrrlan, engrrlan, engrrlan as they push through the barriers are wholly controlled agit prop. MI5, MetPolice etc. Many are either themselves plainclothes, military , paramilitary or just the dumbest of the dumb who get given cocaine and free booze and are coached into such events. Real protestors would be beaten to a pulp as we have seen with real protests everywhere.
I can guarantee they are not local. AND they have to be DEFENDED by the police from anti fascists like me and mine , because we scare the shite out of them, even as old men.
They are bully boys who run, pissing their trousers as soon as the police canât protect them. They RUN. Like rabbits.
As I have been banging on and am glad many more are calling out the Israel Project and Zionism as an invention of the English ruling elites going back at least as far as the early C19th. There was no âhistoricalâ Israel. Not even in Roman Times.
That is wholly an invention of the Holy Roman Empire first and the mass conversion of the Khazars later on - the Slavers and Traders of the Silk Road who were dispossessed by the Russian Empire. Ever since when they have attempted with proxy after proxy to win back their âhomelandsâ - it isnât in the Levant, never was.
They have had a continuous hand in all the centuries of European nation states and empire building and were instrumental in designing the Founding myth of the United States - there is no hiding the common symbolism across all the Anglo European states and institutions.
People just need to wake up from their generations of believing the fairytales. Whether it is the Conquistadors, Sun Kingâs , Rule Brittannias or the American Dreamers Century of Empire or the wholly absurd Judaeonationalism of the invented state of Israel.
âIn 1838, an Arab revolt took place in Greater Syria, run by Muhammad Ali, the Ottoman viceroy of Egypt. British Foreign Secretary Palmerston offered the Sultan of Turkey British help in putting down the revolt, and in return, Britain was given the right to establish a vice-consulate in Jerusalem. Once this beachhead for the Empire was secured, the British decided to use a fledgling Zionist movement as their proxy, to increase their presence in the Holy Land.â
From that start - after the proxy Napoleon has failed to take Russia and had to be removed by the proxy Wellington - the British Khazar empire was green lit and made the running until passing the baton to the USKhazar empire for the last century or so, planning to have the beachhead expand and control the âcrossroads of the worldâ under the hand of the mutant Zionists.
As are the Yaxley-Lenons and bully boys, they are not hung recent or new they have a tradition going back centuries as actually Khazari hirelings , that links them directly to the dumb fuck ukrop Azov Nazis - both of whom would include members who would be wholly Judaeophobic and Anti Arab, anti-Semitic too! They were equally anti catholic, anti German anti French anti Irish, anti African etc etc
Yet they are wholly part of the ages old Khazarians who lost over and over and over against the Russians since before their conversion from whatever belief they had - they could have chosen Orthodox over Catholic but Rome had already burnt that bridge and decided they should shapeshift into Judaism instead.
Another piece of lying theatre , thatâs why Yiddish was never Hebrew. Thatâs why the akhenazis , these ex khazars are not the semetic peoples of the Levant as Hebrews were.Thatâs why their hatred of Semites comes so easily and their thuggish children are brought up believing the weird fairytales of supremacy.
No different to the Nazi or Bandera or even our western imperial youth have through the ages.
Thatâs why we see children being mutilated and murdered as chickens in a pen and we are inured from such brutality against the actual ancient peoples of the Levant.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 11 2023 15:36 utc | 99
Today we have Israeli snipers picking off children outside the hospital because nits become lice. Soon the children of Gaza who survive the snipers and bombs will be seen as walking skeletons with bulging bellies. Then the cannibalism begins. Will the Israeli prisoners be eaten first? Hamas won't be able to release prisoners because they will be needed for food. Hamas may need to salvage the bodies of the Israelis they kill for food. The horror of it all! Will any country dare to take away Israel's license to genocide?
Posted by: Chas | Nov 11 2023 15:38 utc | 100
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Zelensky banked on drawing US and the west into direct conflict with Russia. UK have done their best to draw US into direct conflict with Russia.
Nutty and crew are doing their best to do the same. Also the element of grabbing what they can while they can.
Russia has never reacted to provocations, rather it has stayed focused on its objective. What remains to be seen is how much of that larger overview has rubbed off onto other players in the ME. This looks to be a wait and see situation.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2023 7:50 utc | 1