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October 9, 2023
WSJ Joins Neocons To Instigate War On Iran

Updated below.

The neo-conservatives want to blame Iran for the current war in Palestine/Gaza.

They have for years tried to instigate war against it. Now they again see a chance. But its not a big one – yet.

Yossi Melman is a very well connected Israeli author:

Yossi Melman @yossi_melman – 5:33 UTC · Oct 9, 2023

IDF spokeperson Brig-General Danny Hagari said that there is no indication of an Iranian involvement in the war in Gaza.

Biden administration scrambles to deter wider Mideast conflictWashington Post – Oct 8 2023

Asked whether Hamas may have acted in partnership with Iran to disrupt the effort to broker a Saudi deal, Blinken said “that could have been part of the motivation. Look, who opposes normalization? Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran.”

But, he said, “we have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind this particular attack.”

Fear not, say the neocons, we still have the Wall Street Journal to carry water for us:

Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks (archived) – Wall Street Journal – Oct 8 2023

DUBAI—Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah, another Iran-backed militant group.

Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.

Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.

WSJ authors in Dubai(!) have access to "senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah"?

Both groups are notorious for their secrecy and their senior leadership is usually hidden away. Those facts alone are enough to debunk the report as nonsense. But the WSJ authors continue:

“We don’t have any information at this time to corroborate this account,” said a U.S. official of the meetings.

A European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran’s involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members.

Asked about the meetings, Mahmoud Mirdawi, a senior Hamas official, said the group planned the attacks on its own. “This is a Palestinian and Hamas decision,” he said.

A spokesman for Iran’s mission to the United Nations said the Islamic Republic stood in support of Gaza’s actions but didn’t direct them.

“The decisions made by the Palestinian resistance are fiercely autonomous and unwaveringly aligned with the legitimate interests of the Palestinian people,” the spokesman said. “We are not involved in Palestine’s response, as it is taken solely by Palestine itself.”

Three direct rejections by official sources of the WSJ claims get countered with an anonymous 'European official' and a likewise anonymous 'adviser to the Syrian government'.

It is like the authors don't even try to sound believable:

A direct Iranian role would take Tehran’s long-running conflict with Israel out of the shadows, raising the risk of broader conflict in the Middle East. Senior Israeli security officials have pledged to strike at Iran’s leadership if Tehran is found responsible for killing Israelis.

The IRGC’s broader plan is to create a multi-front threat that can strangle Israel from all sides—Hezbollah and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the north and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank, according to the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members and an Iranian official.

Israel has blamed Iran, saying it is behind the attacks, if indirectly. ​​ “We know that there were meetings in Syria and in Lebanon with other leaders of the terror armies that surround Israel so obviously it’s easy to understand that they tried to coordinate. The proxies of Iran in our region, they tried to be coordinated as much as possible with Iran,” Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, said Sunday.

There is however little evidence for the Israeli assertion:

Leading the effort to wrangle Iran’s foreign proxies under a unified command has been Ismail Qaani, the leader of the IRGC’s international military arm, the Quds Force.

Qaani launched coordination among several militias surrounding Israel in April during a meeting in Lebanon, The Wall Street Journal has reported, where Hamas began working more closely with other groups such as Hezbollah for the first time.

Hamas and Hezbollah have cooperated for decades. During the war on Syria some Hamas members took the side of the 'moderate rebels'. They taught them how to dig large tunnels, a technique they themselves had once learned from Hizbullah:

Abu Musaab, a leader in Ahrar al-Sham, told the pro-uprising satellite television station Orient News that the Syrian militant group received tutorial videos from Gazans showing them how to repair collapsing tunnels.

"The ground here became damp and began to fall on us…and some of our youth were trapped inside. So we spoke to those with expertise, our brothers in Gaza, may God reward their good deeds," Abu Musaab was quoted as saying.

"We consulted them regarding the problem and they advised us to bring in wood (plates), sending us video segment showing us how they do it and we replicated that," Abu Musaab added.

And in June 2013, the pro-Hezbollah al-Akhbar newspaper reported that "sources close to Hezbollah and the Syrian regime claim that Hamas had a role to play in the battles of Qusayr, [where tunnels] … had been dug using small Iranian devices that Hezbollah had transferred to Hamas."

"Some of the explosives, they added, were found to contain electronic chips that Hamas had acquired from Iran and Hezbollah," the Lebanese paper said.

After the war in Syria was decided in the governments favor, Hamas slowly found its way back into the resistance camp. Consultations between Hezbullah and Hamas have been constant since. Back to the WSJ:

Representatives of these groups have met with Quds Force leaders at least biweekly in Lebanon since August to discuss this weekend’s attack on Israel and what happens next, they said. Qaani has attended some of those meetings along with Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, Islamic Jihad leader al-Nakhalah, and Saleh al-Arouri, Hamas’s military chief, the militant-group members said.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian attended at least two of the meetings, they said.

This, however, is clearly no believable. Amir-Abdollahian is a professional diplomat, not a security official. While he has been deeply involved in political issues regarding Palestine he is unlikely to have been involved in any top-secret operational planning.

Also biweekly meetings between Qaani, Nasrallah and other high ranking resistance leaders are unlikely to have ever happened. Each such meeting would be a security nightmare.

The planning for the recent Hamas operation must have taken years not just the few month since August. While the WSJ lets it seem that there is operational coordination between the various resistance groups their real cooperation is on a way more strategic level.

Each group in the resistance axis has its own plans and goals. That does not exclude strategic cooperation, but not on the detail level of fighting:

Egypt, which is trying to mediate in the conflict, has warned Israeli officials that a ground invasion into Gaza would trigger a military response from Hezbollah, opening up a second battlefront, people familiar with the matter said. Israel and Hezbollah exchanged fire briefly on Sunday.

The Iranian official said that if Iran were attacked, it would respond with missile strikes on Israel from Lebanon, Yemen and Iran, and send Iranian fighters into Israel from Syria to attack cities in the north and east of Israel.

While there is no denying that Iran, Hezbullah, Hamas and others consult with each other on a high level, any deeper cooperation, training or assistance is unlikely to still exist. It is each on their own, but with a common big goal in mind.

Update – 14:40 UTC

Of interest:

Andrew MacGregor Marshall @zenjournalist – 11:54 UTC · Oct 9, 2023

The main reporter on this story, @summer_said, has a history of dishonesty and inventing stories. I fired her from Reuters in 2008 for this reason. I’m surprised that the @WSJ has hired her and is publishing her stories that are clearly bogus.

Comments

“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

Posted by: Colin | Oct 9 2023 23:48 utc | 401

“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

Posted by: Colin | Oct 9 2023 23:48 utc | 402

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2023 22:57 utc | 196
Yes, the false flag theory analogous to 9/11 is too implausible. And it ignores the possibility that the numbers and pictures may be faked but the action itself exists. The newcomers who have previously advocated the false flag theory are also highly suspect.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 9 2023 23:53 utc | 403

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2023 22:57 utc | 196
Yes, the false flag theory analogous to 9/11 is too implausible. And it ignores the possibility that the numbers and pictures may be faked but the action itself exists. The newcomers who have previously advocated the false flag theory are also highly suspect.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 9 2023 23:53 utc | 404

Jason | Oct 9 2023 20:43 utc | 183
*** Until Iran has deployed nukes it must arm with biological weapons. The future of warfare is bio weapons. Safety level 4 biological labs that deal with weapons grade biological agents have increased 7 fold in number since the turn of the century.***
Iran might be just too moral, right or wrong, to do that.
Meanwhile, however, it would seem that a large percentage of brain-deadened population of most NATO countries still don’t really mind the probability of themselves getting poisoned, disease-killed or toasted so long as it is the neocon/liberal leadership of the ‘exceptionalist’ USA who inflict such ‘armageddon’ … and that it is (of course) approved by the establishment’s mass-media plus ‘celebs’.
The likes of Pompeo and Pence must already be wetting their pants in rapturous anticipation.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 9 2023 23:57 utc | 405

Jason | Oct 9 2023 20:43 utc | 183
*** Until Iran has deployed nukes it must arm with biological weapons. The future of warfare is bio weapons. Safety level 4 biological labs that deal with weapons grade biological agents have increased 7 fold in number since the turn of the century.***
Iran might be just too moral, right or wrong, to do that.
Meanwhile, however, it would seem that a large percentage of brain-deadened population of most NATO countries still don’t really mind the probability of themselves getting poisoned, disease-killed or toasted so long as it is the neocon/liberal leadership of the ‘exceptionalist’ USA who inflict such ‘armageddon’ … and that it is (of course) approved by the establishment’s mass-media plus ‘celebs’.
The likes of Pompeo and Pence must already be wetting their pants in rapturous anticipation.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 9 2023 23:57 utc | 406

Update is important. Mockingbirds.
Caravan moves on.
Dawgs bark.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 9 2023 23:59 utc | 407

Update is important. Mockingbirds.
Caravan moves on.
Dawgs bark.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 9 2023 23:59 utc | 408

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy | Oct 9 2023 16:30 utc | 118
It is of course the Zionists who claim that it is Hamas, not the Zionist occupation agency, that is responsible for these killings. Pro-Palestinians are of course very concerned about the killing of civilians, which means that it is all the more necessary to eliminate the Zionist colonial apparatus.
The correct statement is that no matter how many non-Palestinian civilians die in Hamas attacks, it’s the Zionists’ fault, conspiracy or no conspiracy.
This is precisely the clearly established and reasonable position that many newcomers wish to hide, namely that no conspiracy is needed (even if some theories can be true), and that the dead are to be blamed for imperialism, colonialism and Zionism, just like the dead in 9/11.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:00 utc | 409

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy | Oct 9 2023 16:30 utc | 118
It is of course the Zionists who claim that it is Hamas, not the Zionist occupation agency, that is responsible for these killings. Pro-Palestinians are of course very concerned about the killing of civilians, which means that it is all the more necessary to eliminate the Zionist colonial apparatus.
The correct statement is that no matter how many non-Palestinian civilians die in Hamas attacks, it’s the Zionists’ fault, conspiracy or no conspiracy.
This is precisely the clearly established and reasonable position that many newcomers wish to hide, namely that no conspiracy is needed (even if some theories can be true), and that the dead are to be blamed for imperialism, colonialism and Zionism, just like the dead in 9/11.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:00 utc | 410

karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 21:58 utc | 192
*** Fast forward to 1945 ***
Mistake to skip the cultivation of what became a huge problem nowadays
— the UK Foreign Office in late Victorian times, building up both fanatical (but then weak) Wahabbi cultist and Zionist elements with the supposed intention of these agencies undermining the Ottoman Empire.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:09 utc | 411

karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 21:58 utc | 192
*** Fast forward to 1945 ***
Mistake to skip the cultivation of what became a huge problem nowadays
— the UK Foreign Office in late Victorian times, building up both fanatical (but then weak) Wahabbi cultist and Zionist elements with the supposed intention of these agencies undermining the Ottoman Empire.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:09 utc | 412

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:00 utc | 204
Of course, many are too cowardly or servile to accept this position – they are afraid even to blame the civilian deaths on the aggressor’s side rather than the victims who resisted.
Is it, not a serious double standard for people to claim that it is the resistance of the victim that invites civilian deaths on the side of the victim, rather than the enslavement of the victimizer that causes the inevitable civilian deaths (of “both sides) in the resistance of the victim?
Many are accustomed to condemning the victims and advocating for the perpetrators, while also claiming to shed tears for the corruption of humanity in this case – okay, it’s their humanity that’s really corrupt.
For example, after reading reports of civilian deaths and injuries incurred by Zionists, it’s not a case of losing sympathy for the Zionists, but rather, “This time I lost sympathy for the Palestinians.”
Blaming Hamas, not the IDF, for civilian deaths and injuries is a further extension of its absurdity.
It’s like claiming that the guerrillas, not the fascists, are responsible for the massacre of civilians in retaliation for the guerrillas by the fascists.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:12 utc | 413

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:00 utc | 204
Of course, many are too cowardly or servile to accept this position – they are afraid even to blame the civilian deaths on the aggressor’s side rather than the victims who resisted.
Is it, not a serious double standard for people to claim that it is the resistance of the victim that invites civilian deaths on the side of the victim, rather than the enslavement of the victimizer that causes the inevitable civilian deaths (of “both sides) in the resistance of the victim?
Many are accustomed to condemning the victims and advocating for the perpetrators, while also claiming to shed tears for the corruption of humanity in this case – okay, it’s their humanity that’s really corrupt.
For example, after reading reports of civilian deaths and injuries incurred by Zionists, it’s not a case of losing sympathy for the Zionists, but rather, “This time I lost sympathy for the Palestinians.”
Blaming Hamas, not the IDF, for civilian deaths and injuries is a further extension of its absurdity.
It’s like claiming that the guerrillas, not the fascists, are responsible for the massacre of civilians in retaliation for the guerrillas by the fascists.

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:12 utc | 414

listening to Greenwald live System Update, hasbara all over the live chat, worse than here.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:25 utc | 415

listening to Greenwald live System Update, hasbara all over the live chat, worse than here.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:25 utc | 416

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:12 utc | 206
*** Blaming Hamas, not the IDF, for civilian deaths and injuries is a further extension of its absurdity.***
If the population of Donbas had voluntarily ceased to exist, the Kiev regime’s Azov (formd by an Oligarch now resident in Israel) and Aidar regiments would not have had to try to kill them.
And if the leaders of Israel hadn’t wanted absolutely everything (and much more, they hope, still to come) exclusively for their own sectarian group, there would not be a war in Israel/Palestine now.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:29 utc | 417

Posted by: Colin | Oct 10 2023 0:12 utc | 206
*** Blaming Hamas, not the IDF, for civilian deaths and injuries is a further extension of its absurdity.***
If the population of Donbas had voluntarily ceased to exist, the Kiev regime’s Azov (formd by an Oligarch now resident in Israel) and Aidar regiments would not have had to try to kill them.
And if the leaders of Israel hadn’t wanted absolutely everything (and much more, they hope, still to come) exclusively for their own sectarian group, there would not be a war in Israel/Palestine now.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:29 utc | 418

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:25 utc | 207
What’s the general gist from GG? How’s he feeling about the whole Hamas Israel affair?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:41 utc | 419

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:25 utc | 207
What’s the general gist from GG? How’s he feeling about the whole Hamas Israel affair?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:41 utc | 420

I for one fail to see how this destroys Nutty Yahoo – and if it does, whether that even matters.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 9 2023 22:43 utc | 195
I gather that we agree. I admit that differences in KM leadership in are imperceptible to me. That’s why I asked Davidovich. I also know, having metaphorically wrangled with US American unipartisans, that if I were Sigmudfuckingfreud I couldn’t get a straight answer from any Canadian as to how best to slice tory rump roast.

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 10 2023 0:42 utc | 421

I for one fail to see how this destroys Nutty Yahoo – and if it does, whether that even matters.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 9 2023 22:43 utc | 195
I gather that we agree. I admit that differences in KM leadership in are imperceptible to me. That’s why I asked Davidovich. I also know, having metaphorically wrangled with US American unipartisans, that if I were Sigmudfuckingfreud I couldn’t get a straight answer from any Canadian as to how best to slice tory rump roast.

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 10 2023 0:42 utc | 422

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:41 utc | 209
he is mainly focusing on the US role, and tying the US call for genocide against Palestinians and support for Israel with our proxy war in Ukraine. he does criticise Hamas but points out the context of decades of oppression, which will now get worse.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:48 utc | 423

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 0:41 utc | 209
he is mainly focusing on the US role, and tying the US call for genocide against Palestinians and support for Israel with our proxy war in Ukraine. he does criticise Hamas but points out the context of decades of oppression, which will now get worse.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:48 utc | 424

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:48 utc | 211
Thanks.
To everyone else, I just published a long comment at the end of the last super-long 700+ post Israel Palestine thread from yesterday. Worth reading, IMHO.
Based on this: https://yasha.substack.com/p/what-do-you-expect

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 1:00 utc | 425

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 10 2023 0:48 utc | 211
Thanks.
To everyone else, I just published a long comment at the end of the last super-long 700+ post Israel Palestine thread from yesterday. Worth reading, IMHO.
Based on this: https://yasha.substack.com/p/what-do-you-expect

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 1:00 utc | 426

Skip to 07:31 for an explanation of the indoctrination that is necessary to keep Zionists and other Jews convinced that Israel is pure and true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFoxL3sOAio
Prior to that is a bunch of everyday Israelis on the streets using the language of genocice.
This is from five years ago.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 1:05 utc | 427

Skip to 07:31 for an explanation of the indoctrination that is necessary to keep Zionists and other Jews convinced that Israel is pure and true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFoxL3sOAio
Prior to that is a bunch of everyday Israelis on the streets using the language of genocice.
This is from five years ago.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2023 1:05 utc | 428

Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:09 utc | 205–
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, a shortcut was needed, so I made one, which cut out context.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2023 1:12 utc | 429

Cynic | Oct 10 2023 0:09 utc | 205–
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, a shortcut was needed, so I made one, which cut out context.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2023 1:12 utc | 430

Posted by: Revelo 15 “… then everyone in the organization understands intuitively that something else has to take its place to keep the organization relevant and busy.”

Our world is, was and will be, forever and ever.
Thousand years ago … Alien vs. Predator – Predator History On Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOra-v2wCEA&t=57s
1 Samuel 11:7
7 He took a pair of oxen, cut them into pieces, and sent the pieces by messengers throughout Israel, proclaiming, “This is what will be done to the oxen of anyone who does not follow Saul and Samuel.” Then the terror of the Lord fell on the people, and they came out together as one.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+11%3A7&version=NIV
BIDEN: “(…) but, ¡Europe can not stay united without the United State! ¡THERE IS NO MORAL CENTER IN EUROPE! When in the last two centuries at the french or the british or the germans or the belgium or the italians moved in away to unify that continent to stand up to this kind of genocide? When have they done it? the only reason anything is happening now is because the United State of America finally ¡FINALLY! is understanding her role (…)” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwYVKptqH_o&t=54s
Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2023 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R42738

Posted by: Neocons | Oct 10 2023 1:35 utc | 431

Posted by: Revelo 15 “… then everyone in the organization understands intuitively that something else has to take its place to keep the organization relevant and busy.”

Our world is, was and will be, forever and ever.
Thousand years ago … Alien vs. Predator – Predator History On Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOra-v2wCEA&t=57s
1 Samuel 11:7
7 He took a pair of oxen, cut them into pieces, and sent the pieces by messengers throughout Israel, proclaiming, “This is what will be done to the oxen of anyone who does not follow Saul and Samuel.” Then the terror of the Lord fell on the people, and they came out together as one.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+11%3A7&version=NIV
BIDEN: “(…) but, ¡Europe can not stay united without the United State! ¡THERE IS NO MORAL CENTER IN EUROPE! When in the last two centuries at the french or the british or the germans or the belgium or the italians moved in away to unify that continent to stand up to this kind of genocide? When have they done it? the only reason anything is happening now is because the United State of America finally ¡FINALLY! is understanding her role (…)” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwYVKptqH_o&t=54s
Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2023 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R42738

Posted by: Neocons | Oct 10 2023 1:35 utc | 432

miss the wisdom of the old crew BIB, Empty, at least see kooshy once in a while. all the best
Posted by: Rd | Oct 9 2023 21:00 utc | 184
Thank you for the reply Rd. I have to agree, I do miss the wisdom of the old crew, particularly Empty’s. At the time I thought he was the wisest of the bunch. He probably still is. I hope he’s reading this and will give it a nod. And yes, it good to see old man, kooshy, comment here.
Much respect and adoration for all.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 10 2023 2:36 utc | 433

miss the wisdom of the old crew BIB, Empty, at least see kooshy once in a while. all the best
Posted by: Rd | Oct 9 2023 21:00 utc | 184
Thank you for the reply Rd. I have to agree, I do miss the wisdom of the old crew, particularly Empty’s. At the time I thought he was the wisest of the bunch. He probably still is. I hope he’s reading this and will give it a nod. And yes, it good to see old man, kooshy, comment here.
Much respect and adoration for all.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 10 2023 2:36 utc | 434

With the once-per-a-lifetime chance Hamas supposedly had on attacking Israel, why there is nothing about the Dimona nuke station, which Hamas tried to hit many times in the history?
A question no one is asking.
Everything might be just a well staged kabuki.

Posted by: kulmthestatusquo | Oct 10 2023 2:37 utc | 435

With the once-per-a-lifetime chance Hamas supposedly had on attacking Israel, why there is nothing about the Dimona nuke station, which Hamas tried to hit many times in the history?
A question no one is asking.
Everything might be just a well staged kabuki.

Posted by: kulmthestatusquo | Oct 10 2023 2:37 utc | 436

Hamburg airport closed to an Iranian flight after a email threat. Better do a bail check on Michael kaydar. Msm reports it as a credible serious threat. I mean any public figure receives hundreds of these per day. Gotta build the fear of Iran and join some terror into every story

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 10 2023 2:50 utc | 437

Hamburg airport closed to an Iranian flight after a email threat. Better do a bail check on Michael kaydar. Msm reports it as a credible serious threat. I mean any public figure receives hundreds of these per day. Gotta build the fear of Iran and join some terror into every story

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 10 2023 2:50 utc | 438

Now the entire population are angry with him as they perceive that he failed on security and safety of Israeli citizens.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 9 2023 21:39 utc | 190

Kind of reminds you of the tidal waves of outrage and revulsion that swept FDR from office after Pearl Harbor, and Shrub Bush from office after 9/11, doesn’t it?
Oh wait…

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2023 2:51 utc | 439

Now the entire population are angry with him as they perceive that he failed on security and safety of Israeli citizens.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 9 2023 21:39 utc | 190

Kind of reminds you of the tidal waves of outrage and revulsion that swept FDR from office after Pearl Harbor, and Shrub Bush from office after 9/11, doesn’t it?
Oh wait…

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2023 2:51 utc | 440

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 441

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 442

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 443

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 444

Jared Kushner’s parents predict Nikki Haley will be the first female US president. In 2021 they held a fundraiser for her at their home. The war machine has spent years and lots of money getting her lined up. The only way to end the war machine is to breakup US into at least 3 parts. In 2010 the anti-establishment Tea Party fought hard to elect Nikki Haley Gov. of South Carolina. It doesn’t matter, every single one sells us out.

Posted by: susan mullen | Oct 10 2023 5:04 utc | 445

Jared Kushner’s parents predict Nikki Haley will be the first female US president. In 2021 they held a fundraiser for her at their home. The war machine has spent years and lots of money getting her lined up. The only way to end the war machine is to breakup US into at least 3 parts. In 2010 the anti-establishment Tea Party fought hard to elect Nikki Haley Gov. of South Carolina. It doesn’t matter, every single one sells us out.

Posted by: susan mullen | Oct 10 2023 5:04 utc | 446

Qatar gave US$ 1.5 billion to Gaza, with Mossad’s green light. according to this report from The Times of Israel in 2020:
https://archive.li/8AitG
Explains some of those fancy (ex)high-rises seen in the recent Gaza videos.
Pay-offs don’t pay off in ideological battles.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 10 2023 5:15 utc | 447

Qatar gave US$ 1.5 billion to Gaza, with Mossad’s green light. according to this report from The Times of Israel in 2020:
https://archive.li/8AitG
Explains some of those fancy (ex)high-rises seen in the recent Gaza videos.
Pay-offs don’t pay off in ideological battles.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 10 2023 5:15 utc | 448

Putin Is Fighting, and Losing, His Last War
May 9, 2023, New York Times
By Timothy Snyder
Dr. Snyder is a professor of history at Yale University and the author of many books on fascism, totalitarianism and European history.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/09/opinion/russia-war-ukraine-nuclear.html
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 9 2023 12:53 utc | 33

Snyder is a disgusting example of an immoral degenerate human being. He represents the worst of Yale and the US which is embedded fascist fascism and totalitarian to the core. A fanatical empire neocon and a scumbag zionist death merchant from the CFR. A typical megalomaniac deep state elite narcissist. His brain his fried and he has no moral compass whatsoever.
Synder is the template for almost everything wrong in our world today.
A prime example of IYI – The Intellectual Yet Idiot – “the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote for.”
“While rich people believe in one tax dollar one vote, more humanistic ones in one man one vote, Monsanto in one lobbyist one vote, the IYI believes in one Ivy League degree one-vote, with some equivalence for foreign elite schools and PhDs as these are needed in the club.”
https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577
I can’t stand the man he makes my skin crawl. And no, I don’t like him one bit, in case there was any doubt. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 10 2023 5:44 utc | 449

Putin Is Fighting, and Losing, His Last War
May 9, 2023, New York Times
By Timothy Snyder
Dr. Snyder is a professor of history at Yale University and the author of many books on fascism, totalitarianism and European history.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/09/opinion/russia-war-ukraine-nuclear.html
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 9 2023 12:53 utc | 33

Snyder is a disgusting example of an immoral degenerate human being. He represents the worst of Yale and the US which is embedded fascist fascism and totalitarian to the core. A fanatical empire neocon and a scumbag zionist death merchant from the CFR. A typical megalomaniac deep state elite narcissist. His brain his fried and he has no moral compass whatsoever.
Synder is the template for almost everything wrong in our world today.
A prime example of IYI – The Intellectual Yet Idiot – “the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote for.”
“While rich people believe in one tax dollar one vote, more humanistic ones in one man one vote, Monsanto in one lobbyist one vote, the IYI believes in one Ivy League degree one-vote, with some equivalence for foreign elite schools and PhDs as these are needed in the club.”
https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577
I can’t stand the man he makes my skin crawl. And no, I don’t like him one bit, in case there was any doubt. 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 10 2023 5:44 utc | 450

Peter AU1 | Oct 9 2023 15:15 utc | 86–
Aussies reading and commenting at my substack have informed me that SCF’s new URL is blocked for them. Al-Mayadeen reports that Meta has censored its English language page. Lots of people using X and Telegram. SCF has yet to publish anything Palestine-related.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 15:28 utc | 86
Not in Oz but from what I see on YT there is a conga line of Australian politicians waiting to get their faces in the media and condemn the unprovoked Palestinian attack on peace loving Israelis. Of interest Israel, that has very little trade with Australia and no geopolitical significance, is the #1 destination for Aussie political trips abroad, so why would that be? Australia is every bit the bought vassal that Canada is.

Posted by: Organic | Oct 10 2023 6:15 utc | 451

Peter AU1 | Oct 9 2023 15:15 utc | 86–
Aussies reading and commenting at my substack have informed me that SCF’s new URL is blocked for them. Al-Mayadeen reports that Meta has censored its English language page. Lots of people using X and Telegram. SCF has yet to publish anything Palestine-related.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 15:28 utc | 86
Not in Oz but from what I see on YT there is a conga line of Australian politicians waiting to get their faces in the media and condemn the unprovoked Palestinian attack on peace loving Israelis. Of interest Israel, that has very little trade with Australia and no geopolitical significance, is the #1 destination for Aussie political trips abroad, so why would that be? Australia is every bit the bought vassal that Canada is.

Posted by: Organic | Oct 10 2023 6:15 utc | 452

I believe Bibi let them in, focusing the IDF’s attention on the West Bank purposefully after Egypt’s numerous warnings. This is just too convenient for him and for Israel’s unity (which was falling appart), as it is for Joe, diverting attention from his Ukrainian debacle. The cynicism of the intelligence community never ceases to amaze me. This is indeed Israel’s 9/11 – in more ways than one.

Posted by: Gaia | Oct 10 2023 9:14 utc | 453

I believe Bibi let them in, focusing the IDF’s attention on the West Bank purposefully after Egypt’s numerous warnings. This is just too convenient for him and for Israel’s unity (which was falling appart), as it is for Joe, diverting attention from his Ukrainian debacle. The cynicism of the intelligence community never ceases to amaze me. This is indeed Israel’s 9/11 – in more ways than one.

Posted by: Gaia | Oct 10 2023 9:14 utc | 454

A question no one is asking.
Everything might be just a well staged kabuki.
Posted by: kulmthestatusquo | Oct 10 2023 2:37 utc | 217
Dimona was indeed attacked early on.
News of it seems to have been lost in the fog of war.
I have been asking.
Perhaps there is an information blackout.
Wait.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2023 10:46 utc | 455

A question no one is asking.
Everything might be just a well staged kabuki.
Posted by: kulmthestatusquo | Oct 10 2023 2:37 utc | 217
Dimona was indeed attacked early on.
News of it seems to have been lost in the fog of war.
I have been asking.
Perhaps there is an information blackout.
Wait.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2023 10:46 utc | 456

I for one fail to see how this destroys Nutty Yahoo – and if it does, whether that even matters.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 9 2023 22:43 utc | 195
There’s a hope that if he fails in the same way olmert failed in 2006 he will go the way olmert went …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2023 10:51 utc | 457

I for one fail to see how this destroys Nutty Yahoo – and if it does, whether that even matters.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 9 2023 22:43 utc | 195
There’s a hope that if he fails in the same way olmert failed in 2006 he will go the way olmert went …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2023 10:51 utc | 458

I could be convinced that Nutty Yahoo and his merry band of murderers in the Mossad knew something was planned and let it happen thinking it was just going to be a few bottle rockets and sparklers… some festive fireworks for the holidays that servile presstitutes could hysterically blow out of proportion in order to hand the psycho-zionists a political gift. I cannot be convinced they were expected what they ended up with. In the same way that the US was taken by surprise by how their proxy war with Russia has developed, the Zionists were also blinded with hubris and delusion and radically underestimated their victims.
In other words, perhaps this was intended to be theater. If that is the case, I think it is fairly obvious that Hamas isn’t acting to the Zionists’ script.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2023 13:17 utc | 459

I could be convinced that Nutty Yahoo and his merry band of murderers in the Mossad knew something was planned and let it happen thinking it was just going to be a few bottle rockets and sparklers… some festive fireworks for the holidays that servile presstitutes could hysterically blow out of proportion in order to hand the psycho-zionists a political gift. I cannot be convinced they were expected what they ended up with. In the same way that the US was taken by surprise by how their proxy war with Russia has developed, the Zionists were also blinded with hubris and delusion and radically underestimated their victims.
In other words, perhaps this was intended to be theater. If that is the case, I think it is fairly obvious that Hamas isn’t acting to the Zionists’ script.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2023 13:17 utc | 460

“I can’t stand the man he makes my skin crawl. And no, I don’t like him one bit, in case there was any doubt. 🙂
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 10 2023 5:44 utc | 224”
Wholly concur LD , hadn’t heard of the tosser till the SMO and had to go look into his work, as many cited him, after many hours of reading his stuff I got a very icky feeling, nausea..
Not like a reaction of emphatic horror – but of something very fishy.. I then found the refutation of his holodomor distortions. The mein kampf of the kaganites 4th Reich, the justification of restoration of full throated nazism to Europe!
His intellectualised reinvention of history for these who had lived it first hand or had parents and grandparents who new better. He is not alone. The other current famous ‘historians’ – no better than tellyvised evangelists selling snake oil.
Dr Strangelove was a saint in comparison.
I look forward to his trial and punishment after the collapse of the unipolarists and their latest Nazi manifestation.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 10 2023 13:20 utc | 461

“I can’t stand the man he makes my skin crawl. And no, I don’t like him one bit, in case there was any doubt. 🙂
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Oct 10 2023 5:44 utc | 224”
Wholly concur LD , hadn’t heard of the tosser till the SMO and had to go look into his work, as many cited him, after many hours of reading his stuff I got a very icky feeling, nausea..
Not like a reaction of emphatic horror – but of something very fishy.. I then found the refutation of his holodomor distortions. The mein kampf of the kaganites 4th Reich, the justification of restoration of full throated nazism to Europe!
His intellectualised reinvention of history for these who had lived it first hand or had parents and grandparents who new better. He is not alone. The other current famous ‘historians’ – no better than tellyvised evangelists selling snake oil.
Dr Strangelove was a saint in comparison.
I look forward to his trial and punishment after the collapse of the unipolarists and their latest Nazi manifestation.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 10 2023 13:20 utc | 462

– The only thing that will kill the (neocon) warmachine is good old fashioned & severe economic shock to the US economy.
-I thought these dinosaurs were extinct ………………..

Posted by: Mr. Market | Oct 10 2023 14:03 utc | 463

– The only thing that will kill the (neocon) warmachine is good old fashioned & severe economic shock to the US economy.
-I thought these dinosaurs were extinct ………………..

Posted by: Mr. Market | Oct 10 2023 14:03 utc | 464

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 220
I am not sure why people keep bringing this up
Who Cares?
Zionism is Nazism cloaked n Judaism to elicit victimhood and hide their war crimes.
an invention by the COL to protect its army of zion who have the right to sel-defence … an excuse to ethnically cleanse the rightful owners
Religin and all the rest of the bulshit is an obfuscating shield

Posted by: ld | Oct 10 2023 14:30 utc | 465

We all know that the Ashkenazis are not the Hebrews in the Bible. So, who exactly are the descendants of Jacob that will bring peace?
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 10 2023 3:08 utc | 220
I am not sure why people keep bringing this up
Who Cares?
Zionism is Nazism cloaked n Judaism to elicit victimhood and hide their war crimes.
an invention by the COL to protect its army of zion who have the right to sel-defence … an excuse to ethnically cleanse the rightful owners
Religin and all the rest of the bulshit is an obfuscating shield

Posted by: ld | Oct 10 2023 14:30 utc | 466

[Global Times about Nikki Haley and her ilk] However, the closing sentence isn’t quite correct:
“They are advancing their own careers at the expense of others and turning the US into an enemy of world peace.”
The Outlaw US Empire has long been THE enemy of world peace.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 15:21 utc | 83
I guess the GT has an optimistic vision, of US and vassals being enemies of peace, BUT with internal forces that turn them, however slightly, away from that positions, requiring big efforts to turn this globular blob back.
Haley and her ilk have work to do because of a fission within her Republican sub-ideology (uni-party has a discernible ideology, but with distinct variants, think about Christians in 4th century slugging each other as they differed in the descriptions of the nature of Christ). One sub-ideology is that the good, i.e. “us”, should suppress the “bad”, in part (however small) because of humanitarian consideration. The other sub-ideology is that America First, we should suppress the “bad” when they interfere with our profits, but do not waste money simply to benefit other people.
Thus sending money to Israel like the recent gift of 6 billion dollars (why not 60 or 1?) is not controversial because we can be confident that it will be used for destruction that will be pleasing our eyes and ears, but sending money to Ukraine is controversial. As Ukraine, unlike Israel, is bankrupt, and half of the support goes to support functioning of the state, administrators, teachers, doctors, road repair etc. That is risible, plus, been there, done that in Afghanistan (not a drop of oil or other source of profit!). And in the case of Ukraine, without accounting and frequent extra allocations, it is genuinely hard to tell how much money is spent on the borscht eaters. In this way, MAGA generates thought that are selfish in a dangerous way.
Altruistic thinking can go in dangerous directions too, but so far, in USA it is a very thin margin.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 10 2023 14:46 utc | 467

[Global Times about Nikki Haley and her ilk] However, the closing sentence isn’t quite correct:
“They are advancing their own careers at the expense of others and turning the US into an enemy of world peace.”
The Outlaw US Empire has long been THE enemy of world peace.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2023 15:21 utc | 83
I guess the GT has an optimistic vision, of US and vassals being enemies of peace, BUT with internal forces that turn them, however slightly, away from that positions, requiring big efforts to turn this globular blob back.
Haley and her ilk have work to do because of a fission within her Republican sub-ideology (uni-party has a discernible ideology, but with distinct variants, think about Christians in 4th century slugging each other as they differed in the descriptions of the nature of Christ). One sub-ideology is that the good, i.e. “us”, should suppress the “bad”, in part (however small) because of humanitarian consideration. The other sub-ideology is that America First, we should suppress the “bad” when they interfere with our profits, but do not waste money simply to benefit other people.
Thus sending money to Israel like the recent gift of 6 billion dollars (why not 60 or 1?) is not controversial because we can be confident that it will be used for destruction that will be pleasing our eyes and ears, but sending money to Ukraine is controversial. As Ukraine, unlike Israel, is bankrupt, and half of the support goes to support functioning of the state, administrators, teachers, doctors, road repair etc. That is risible, plus, been there, done that in Afghanistan (not a drop of oil or other source of profit!). And in the case of Ukraine, without accounting and frequent extra allocations, it is genuinely hard to tell how much money is spent on the borscht eaters. In this way, MAGA generates thought that are selfish in a dangerous way.
Altruistic thinking can go in dangerous directions too, but so far, in USA it is a very thin margin.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 10 2023 14:46 utc | 468

Gallant does not use imagery for the “human animals”. It is literally in the Talmud, the oral law attributed to Moses as interpreted by generations of talmudists. The Jew is above the non Jew as or even more than Adam is above cattle. For the orthodox Jew the Talmud is as important as the Thorah (the written law).

Posted by: Teraspol | Oct 10 2023 19:41 utc | 469

Gallant does not use imagery for the “human animals”. It is literally in the Talmud, the oral law attributed to Moses as interpreted by generations of talmudists. The Jew is above the non Jew as or even more than Adam is above cattle. For the orthodox Jew the Talmud is as important as the Thorah (the written law).

Posted by: Teraspol | Oct 10 2023 19:41 utc | 470

Hamas doesn’t have a Shia affiliation, cannot conflate this resistance group with Hezbollah in Beirut and South Lebanon.
Hamas gave support to Islamic Jihad fighters in Sinai who were responsible for the jail break to get Morsi out of the Egyptian jail as part of the March 2011 uprising.
Hamas has closer ties to Qatar and Türkiye … the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, seen as a terror organization by Saudi Arabia, Emirates UAE and Kuwait.
US Allied with Arab States and Turkey in Regime Change
By Oui | Oct 17, 2018 |

Posted by: Oui | Oct 11 2023 14:09 utc | 471

Hamas doesn’t have a Shia affiliation, cannot conflate this resistance group with Hezbollah in Beirut and South Lebanon.
Hamas gave support to Islamic Jihad fighters in Sinai who were responsible for the jail break to get Morsi out of the Egyptian jail as part of the March 2011 uprising.
Hamas has closer ties to Qatar and Türkiye … the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, seen as a terror organization by Saudi Arabia, Emirates UAE and Kuwait.
US Allied with Arab States and Turkey in Regime Change
By Oui | Oct 17, 2018 |

Posted by: Oui | Oct 11 2023 14:09 utc | 472