Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 11, 2023
U.S. Plans To Ethnically Cleanse Gaza

This is, presumably, the U.S.-Israeli plan for the Palestinian people in Gaza:

Harry Sisson @harryjsisson – 1:44 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

Amazing: President Biden is working on a plan with other countries that would allow civilians to safely leave Gaza and cross the border into Egypt. This is great news. President Biden is making sure that innocent people don’t die due to the actions of Hamas. That’s leadership.

No, it is not leadership. It is ethnic cleansing, a war crime disguised as humanitarian gesture. It is ethnic cleansing of people who's land has been stolen by Zionist settlers. These people would have no right of return to the homes and land they once owned. People who have been put into an open air prison, who have no access to electricity, water and food and are currently under intense attacks.

Egypt, the only country where they potentially could be moved to, is already bankrupt. It can not even provide for its own people. Two million new people from Gaza, all poor and some of them radicalized, would undoubtedly unbalance the Egyptian state.

Should such a plan be put into action it would guarantee that the resistance axis, Hizbullah and various other Sunni and Shia groups in the Middle East, would step in. They would attack Israel to prevent such a move.

The U.S. thinks it can deter resistance action by threatening to move in with its own forces. That's why the USS Herald Ford, its newest carrier, was moved into the Eastern Mediterranean. Rumors have it that a second carrier will come in too.

But the resistance can not be deterred by that. The last time the U.S. tried to intervene in Lebanon it ended up with 241 dead Marines and had to retreat in shame. Hizbullah at that time was only a handful of men. Today Hizbullah has tens of thousands of very well trained men. Then there are also Iran and Russia:

agitpapa @agitpapa – 12:24 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

As I said in my analysis today of the NATO intervention in the Israeli northern front, it's inconceivable that Russia should stay silent in the face of such brazen NATO overreach. This seat-of-the-pants, unmandated NATO panic move will speed up Russia's pivot from pro-Israel to pro-Arab that started with the deaths of Russian airmen caused by an IAF aggression against Syria and was locked in with Netanyahu's support for the nazi regime in Kiev.

The Russian military has long identified Israel as an enemy state and Putin is now conceding to them, acknowledging the failure of yet another one of his strategies, namely the political use of the Russian Jewish community in Israel via his "friend" Avigdor Lieberman. Russian Jews in Israel are virulently anti-Arab, so Putin tried not to upset them.

Today, however, with Bibi bringing in the full might of NATO to the Eastern Mediterranean to threaten not only Lebanon but Russian bases in Syria, it's no more Mr. Nice Guy. With Patrushin and Shoygu holding the reins of state and a clear and present NATO threat on Syria's doorstep, expect a strong and unexpected Russian intervention in the multifront Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah war.

See also:

THE SILENCE OF THE BEARS – RUSSIA IS REORIENTING TOWARDS THE ARABS

Adding:

Rybar Force @rybar_force – 15:52 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

❗️🇱🇧🇺🇸 The American Embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated. American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.

It looks like the American leadership will have to keep its word and join the war on the side of Israel after all.

Later adding – Ooops:

U.S. Embassy Beirut @usembassybeirut – 16:23 UTC · Oct 11, 2023

The U.S. Embassy in Beirut has not evacuated and is open and operating normally. Reports saying otherwise are false. For more information and travel advisories, visit our embassy website: lb.usembassy.gov

Comments

seems Hizbullah got the Biden memo and decided to act…
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1712130116363428261

Posted by: rototo | Oct 11 2023 15:52 utc | 1

seems Hizbullah got the Biden memo and decided to act…
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1712130116363428261

Posted by: rototo | Oct 11 2023 15:52 utc | 2

Neighboring countries must be heard from; the Arab League is meeting in Cairo today. Arab League foreign ministers will discuss ways “to stop the Israeli aggression” against the Gaza Strip, the pan-Arab group said in a statement.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2023 15:54 utc | 3

Neighboring countries must be heard from; the Arab League is meeting in Cairo today. Arab League foreign ministers will discuss ways “to stop the Israeli aggression” against the Gaza Strip, the pan-Arab group said in a statement.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2023 15:54 utc | 4

The Israelis will launch a much ballyhooed Blitzkrieg into Gaza which, as planned, will quickly turn into a Sitzkeig. No way will the IDF take the casualties required to take out Hamas in the 140 square miles of urban jungle, rife with tunnels and bunkers, that is Gaza.
On Iwo Jima, only 9 square miles, the USMC took 25,000 casualties of which 6,000 were KIA.
No, the job of clearing out Gaza will be “handed off” by the IDF.

Posted by: Oswald | Oct 11 2023 15:57 utc | 5

The Israelis will launch a much ballyhooed Blitzkrieg into Gaza which, as planned, will quickly turn into a Sitzkeig. No way will the IDF take the casualties required to take out Hamas in the 140 square miles of urban jungle, rife with tunnels and bunkers, that is Gaza.
On Iwo Jima, only 9 square miles, the USMC took 25,000 casualties of which 6,000 were KIA.
No, the job of clearing out Gaza will be “handed off” by the IDF.

Posted by: Oswald | Oct 11 2023 15:57 utc | 6

There is preliminary news that Hezbollah has joined the war for the liberation of Palestine. Won’t share links in case it turns out to be false, but there are reports of a massive airborne assault currently taking place on northern occupied regions out of Lebanon.

Posted by: warxism | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 7

There is preliminary news that Hezbollah has joined the war for the liberation of Palestine. Won’t share links in case it turns out to be false, but there are reports of a massive airborne assault currently taking place on northern occupied regions out of Lebanon.

Posted by: warxism | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 8

Confirmed. Hezbollah has entered northern Israel after launching large volley of rockets and paragliding in

Posted by: Cbftyping | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 9

Confirmed. Hezbollah has entered northern Israel after launching large volley of rockets and paragliding in

Posted by: Cbftyping | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 10

Seems like Biden’s trying to implement his own Trail of Tears.

Posted by: SpatialFix | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 11

Seems like Biden’s trying to implement his own Trail of Tears.

Posted by: SpatialFix | Oct 11 2023 15:59 utc | 12

Hezbollah drones are hitting zioland right now and zios are fleeing to shelters.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 13

Hezbollah drones are hitting zioland right now and zios are fleeing to shelters.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 14

To make sure that Israel stays in line the US-establishment (and their muppets in Washington DC) plays along with the zionists. Nothing more and nothing less. Fortunately, the Israeli military doesn’t believe in a war against Iran. But Syria may be another matter. As long as the US have their dirty mitts in the Far East things will never improve there.

Posted by: NotYourBob | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 15

To make sure that Israel stays in line the US-establishment (and their muppets in Washington DC) plays along with the zionists. Nothing more and nothing less. Fortunately, the Israeli military doesn’t believe in a war against Iran. But Syria may be another matter. As long as the US have their dirty mitts in the Far East things will never improve there.

Posted by: NotYourBob | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 16

The ability of Christian Iraqis and, indeed, Palestinian Christians to get asylum in the West so easily has actually been the major driver of their ethnic cleansing forming a viscous cycle as their numbers dwindle the discrimination by Muslims increasing. I look forward to Europe, probably countries like Ireland (In their dispossession the Gazans can then become dispossessors of their new hosts) that have a high immigration and emigration burden and whose population and government were the least enabling of all this taking them all in. Meanwhile Hungary, Austria, the UK, Germany and France will likely hold them back despite being the ones who supported this. Can’t be having risks of Islamist terrorism motivated by the policies of the government, of course.
Needless to say, they won’t be showing up in the USA.

Posted by: Altai | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 17

The ability of Christian Iraqis and, indeed, Palestinian Christians to get asylum in the West so easily has actually been the major driver of their ethnic cleansing forming a viscous cycle as their numbers dwindle the discrimination by Muslims increasing. I look forward to Europe, probably countries like Ireland (In their dispossession the Gazans can then become dispossessors of their new hosts) that have a high immigration and emigration burden and whose population and government were the least enabling of all this taking them all in. Meanwhile Hungary, Austria, the UK, Germany and France will likely hold them back despite being the ones who supported this. Can’t be having risks of Islamist terrorism motivated by the policies of the government, of course.
Needless to say, they won’t be showing up in the USA.

Posted by: Altai | Oct 11 2023 16:00 utc | 18

https://johnhelmer.org/the-silence-of-the-bears-russia-is-reorienting-towards-the-arabs/
The zionist entity is not itself at threat, but its myth of military invincibility, on which its entire racist apartheid colonial settler occupation depends, has already been destroyed beyond recovery. What the zionist entity is frantically attempting now is to salvage some kind of result that its American paymasters can pass off as a “victory”. If even that is not achievable, if HAMAS holds the zionist hordes back from capturing Gaza and inflicts enough pain for them to withdraw, then this will be the third colossal defeat under Joe Bidet in less than four years. It is unlikely that the Bidet regime can survive that. After all, the zionist entity is more dear to American politicians than America itself.
I will wait to see if Putin truly has changed his hard wired pro zionist attitude as this article avers. I remember extremely well how when the Il-20 was shot down he rushed to absolve the zionist entity of responsibility even before contacting the families of the crew.
By the way, if Russia truly reorients towards Palestine, it’ll be a head exploding moment for the pro zio reeking gasbag Martyanov and his acolyte Larry Johnson. That will at least be high entertainment.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 19

https://johnhelmer.org/the-silence-of-the-bears-russia-is-reorienting-towards-the-arabs/
The zionist entity is not itself at threat, but its myth of military invincibility, on which its entire racist apartheid colonial settler occupation depends, has already been destroyed beyond recovery. What the zionist entity is frantically attempting now is to salvage some kind of result that its American paymasters can pass off as a “victory”. If even that is not achievable, if HAMAS holds the zionist hordes back from capturing Gaza and inflicts enough pain for them to withdraw, then this will be the third colossal defeat under Joe Bidet in less than four years. It is unlikely that the Bidet regime can survive that. After all, the zionist entity is more dear to American politicians than America itself.
I will wait to see if Putin truly has changed his hard wired pro zionist attitude as this article avers. I remember extremely well how when the Il-20 was shot down he rushed to absolve the zionist entity of responsibility even before contacting the families of the crew.
By the way, if Russia truly reorients towards Palestine, it’ll be a head exploding moment for the pro zio reeking gasbag Martyanov and his acolyte Larry Johnson. That will at least be high entertainment.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 20

My USA is so brave against the starving, thirsty, & mostly children, it uses a cat’s paw (Israel, who also uses distance) to blow them away. If we got any closer we might be in danger! It’s good to know this face of my country is now the only face left to present to the world. I mean, just look at that vigorous debate on our Mainstream Media, it’s not captured at all! We the People truly have a voice in our democratic republic. I feel seen. 😉
We are so brave, so stunning! We are truly having a landmark moment for the oppressed! 😉

Posted by: titmouse | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 21

My USA is so brave against the starving, thirsty, & mostly children, it uses a cat’s paw (Israel, who also uses distance) to blow them away. If we got any closer we might be in danger! It’s good to know this face of my country is now the only face left to present to the world. I mean, just look at that vigorous debate on our Mainstream Media, it’s not captured at all! We the People truly have a voice in our democratic republic. I feel seen. 😉
We are so brave, so stunning! We are truly having a landmark moment for the oppressed! 😉

Posted by: titmouse | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 22

https://www.youtube.com/live/Q3bBdlsZXCw?si=bArcEFPCGkUPD5_R
Livestream by Electronic Intifada about to start. Nuff Sed.

Posted by: Nuff Sed | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 23

https://www.youtube.com/live/Q3bBdlsZXCw?si=bArcEFPCGkUPD5_R
Livestream by Electronic Intifada about to start. Nuff Sed.

Posted by: Nuff Sed | Oct 11 2023 16:02 utc | 24

I’ve said this before, i’ll say it again: the US is on track to lose one or more of its ships this time.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Oct 11 2023 16:03 utc | 25

I’ve said this before, i’ll say it again: the US is on track to lose one or more of its ships this time.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Oct 11 2023 16:03 utc | 26

From IntelSlava

🇺🇲🇱🇧⚡ The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated. American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2023 16:04 utc | 27

From IntelSlava

🇺🇲🇱🇧⚡ The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated. American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2023 16:04 utc | 28

Yes b, the geopolitics of this are complex. Perhaps Putin will give us a hint during his talk and Q&A at today’s Russian Energy Week Plenary Session. At this point, it’s difficult to see through the web and smoke. IMO, the Global Majority rightfully sees the Outlaw US Empire as the enabler of this event through its never making the Zionists make peace and protecting the Zionists politically for decades despite its heinous crimes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 11 2023 16:04 utc | 29

Yes b, the geopolitics of this are complex. Perhaps Putin will give us a hint during his talk and Q&A at today’s Russian Energy Week Plenary Session. At this point, it’s difficult to see through the web and smoke. IMO, the Global Majority rightfully sees the Outlaw US Empire as the enabler of this event through its never making the Zionists make peace and protecting the Zionists politically for decades despite its heinous crimes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 11 2023 16:04 utc | 30

I can appreciate the position on ethnic cleansing as a war crime, but historically defeated ethnic groups usually take the hint and move elsewhere where life generally turns out to be much better, as happened to my Huguenot ancestors.
Most ethnic groups know when they have been defeated, but not the”Palestinians”- a name ascribed by the hated Romans, for a people formerly called Philistines, those folks who captured the Jewish “Ark of the Covenant”

Posted by: william paul | Oct 11 2023 16:06 utc | 31

I can appreciate the position on ethnic cleansing as a war crime, but historically defeated ethnic groups usually take the hint and move elsewhere where life generally turns out to be much better, as happened to my Huguenot ancestors.
Most ethnic groups know when they have been defeated, but not the”Palestinians”- a name ascribed by the hated Romans, for a people formerly called Philistines, those folks who captured the Jewish “Ark of the Covenant”

Posted by: william paul | Oct 11 2023 16:06 utc | 32

Scary, bloody times incoming, but here’s an interesting scenario. Apartheid State tries to invade Gaza, gets stonewalled by long prepared defenses, massive casualties. Gets even crazier and starts completely openly targeting civilians, drawing in Hezzbollah, who flattens military facilities across A state. A state tries to fight missile war with H-bollah, LOSES. US intervenes to bail out A state via aircraft carriers, one gets immediately sunk by H-bollah missiles, other has to turn tail and run. Empire and A state both must accept defeat and climb down, with the power of both shattered. What choice is left? Can’t nuke them, too close to A state. Ground invasion with H-bollah missile force impossible.
Wishful thinking, unfortunately. But not impossible. The foundations of Empire are looking shakier by the day.

Posted by: muttman | Oct 11 2023 16:06 utc | 33

Scary, bloody times incoming, but here’s an interesting scenario. Apartheid State tries to invade Gaza, gets stonewalled by long prepared defenses, massive casualties. Gets even crazier and starts completely openly targeting civilians, drawing in Hezzbollah, who flattens military facilities across A state. A state tries to fight missile war with H-bollah, LOSES. US intervenes to bail out A state via aircraft carriers, one gets immediately sunk by H-bollah missiles, other has to turn tail and run. Empire and A state both must accept defeat and climb down, with the power of both shattered. What choice is left? Can’t nuke them, too close to A state. Ground invasion with H-bollah missile force impossible.
Wishful thinking, unfortunately. But not impossible. The foundations of Empire are looking shakier by the day.

Posted by: muttman | Oct 11 2023 16:06 utc | 34

I commend b for his true and unequivocal statement about ethnic cleansing.
America and Israel commit and joyfully proclaim crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 11 2023 16:07 utc | 35

I commend b for his true and unequivocal statement about ethnic cleansing.
America and Israel commit and joyfully proclaim crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 11 2023 16:07 utc | 36

Corporate media says the war is between Israel and Hamas. But that isn’t so. It’s between Israel and Palestine, but the media doesn’t want to frame it like that. The media is trying to hide what has become a glorious display of courage, solidarity, patience, dignity and intelligence by Palestine. Lots of media stories about the failure of Israeli intelligence. Few stories about the brilliance of Palestinian intelligence. Today is the third day that Israel has put Palestinian Gaza on a starvation diet. In a couple weeks there will be thousands of Palestinians starved to death and that will have to be hidden from the general public. Nevertheless there most be an immense feeling of pride in Palestine that some of their fighters are still at large in Israel trying to kill more Israelis. Rhymes echoing from the Spartacus slave rebellion in ancient Rome.

Posted by: Chas | Oct 11 2023 16:11 utc | 37

Corporate media says the war is between Israel and Hamas. But that isn’t so. It’s between Israel and Palestine, but the media doesn’t want to frame it like that. The media is trying to hide what has become a glorious display of courage, solidarity, patience, dignity and intelligence by Palestine. Lots of media stories about the failure of Israeli intelligence. Few stories about the brilliance of Palestinian intelligence. Today is the third day that Israel has put Palestinian Gaza on a starvation diet. In a couple weeks there will be thousands of Palestinians starved to death and that will have to be hidden from the general public. Nevertheless there most be an immense feeling of pride in Palestine that some of their fighters are still at large in Israel trying to kill more Israelis. Rhymes echoing from the Spartacus slave rebellion in ancient Rome.

Posted by: Chas | Oct 11 2023 16:11 utc | 38

From Geroman

What we know so far:
– At least 15-20 drone infiltrations from Lebanon into Northern Israel, no injuries so far, reports of paraglider untrue for now
– Over 1 million Israelis in Northern Israel ordered to enter bomb shelters
– Hamas claims it fired long range R-160 missiles towards Haifa (they might be from Gaza, not Lebanon)
– Suspected infilitration on foot from Southern Lebanon to Israeli border town Ma’ayan Baruch and reports of gunfire further south around Beit Hillel
– There is still hope that this was psychological warfare in an attempt to scare Israelis, and not to opening up of another front to the war
( @thetimapping )

From Slavyangrad

Sources on both sides agree that Maayan Baruch, a kibbutz on the Lebanese-Israeli border, has been taken over by Hezbollah.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2023 16:12 utc | 39

From Geroman

What we know so far:
– At least 15-20 drone infiltrations from Lebanon into Northern Israel, no injuries so far, reports of paraglider untrue for now
– Over 1 million Israelis in Northern Israel ordered to enter bomb shelters
– Hamas claims it fired long range R-160 missiles towards Haifa (they might be from Gaza, not Lebanon)
– Suspected infilitration on foot from Southern Lebanon to Israeli border town Ma’ayan Baruch and reports of gunfire further south around Beit Hillel
– There is still hope that this was psychological warfare in an attempt to scare Israelis, and not to opening up of another front to the war
( @thetimapping )

From Slavyangrad

Sources on both sides agree that Maayan Baruch, a kibbutz on the Lebanese-Israeli border, has been taken over by Hezbollah.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2023 16:12 utc | 40

And that, my friends, is how the White Man kills.
With a smile and a clause and a ‘legal’ contract nobody ever signed.
“It’s all fair, you see? We do it for your own good!”
“We had to burn the village to save it.”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 11 2023 16:14 utc | 41

And that, my friends, is how the White Man kills.
With a smile and a clause and a ‘legal’ contract nobody ever signed.
“It’s all fair, you see? We do it for your own good!”
“We had to burn the village to save it.”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 11 2023 16:14 utc | 42

Egypt, the only country where they potentially could be moved to, is already bankrupt. It can not even provide for its own people. Two million new people from Gaza, all poor and some of them radicalize, would undoubtedly unbalance the Egyptian state.
– b
Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood. May explain why Egypt, and not USA, warned Israel regarding Hamas.

https://nitter.net/WarMonitors/status/1712137627778920956#m
“Israeli Channel 12: “A drone from Lebanon struck Dimona”

Posted by: robinthehood | Oct 11 2023 16:15 utc | 43

Egypt, the only country where they potentially could be moved to, is already bankrupt. It can not even provide for its own people. Two million new people from Gaza, all poor and some of them radicalize, would undoubtedly unbalance the Egyptian state.
– b
Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood. May explain why Egypt, and not USA, warned Israel regarding Hamas.

https://nitter.net/WarMonitors/status/1712137627778920956#m
“Israeli Channel 12: “A drone from Lebanon struck Dimona”

Posted by: robinthehood | Oct 11 2023 16:15 utc | 44

“No, it is not leadership. It is ethnic cleansing, a war crime disguised as humanitarian gesture. It is ethnic cleansing of people who’s land has been stolen by Zionist settlers. ”
Settlers… Stormed the third most sacred place in the islamic world. Settlers… have no issues with putting up videos of themselves urinating on and kicking the naked bodies of dead Hamas fighters. Settlers have no issues with Palestinian towns being bulldozed and inhabitants evicted to create lebensraum for themselves. On the Lebanon side, there have been reports of firefights between infiltrators and settlers.
The only innocents in zionist Israel are the children. All adults fully understand what they are doing.
……
“Russia’s pivot from pro-Israel to pro-Arab that started with the deaths of Russian airmen caused by an IAF aggression against Syria and was locked in with Netanyahu’s support for the nazi regime in Kiev.”
Support for Nazi’s very much changes the equation considering Russian and jewish shared history with Nazism very much changes the equation. Add that to the list of hostile actions by Israel since the Russian move into Syria to destroy the headchoppers.
Pro Israel? It came across as Russia giving Israel every chance to move into the multi-polar world. I other cases this approach in the past has paid dividends, no better example than the gulf Arabs who had supported Wahhabi cia terrorists groups against Russia.
Anther approach that has paid dividends is total ammnesty for local militia groups that have fought beside the CIA Wahhabi terrorists both in Chechnya and Syria if the parted from the extremist who had converted to Wahhabism. I think the fact of Hamas fighting alongside headchoppers in Syria needs to be looked at in the same way, especially so considering the swing in their gulf Arab backers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 11 2023 16:16 utc | 45

“No, it is not leadership. It is ethnic cleansing, a war crime disguised as humanitarian gesture. It is ethnic cleansing of people who’s land has been stolen by Zionist settlers. ”
Settlers… Stormed the third most sacred place in the islamic world. Settlers… have no issues with putting up videos of themselves urinating on and kicking the naked bodies of dead Hamas fighters. Settlers have no issues with Palestinian towns being bulldozed and inhabitants evicted to create lebensraum for themselves. On the Lebanon side, there have been reports of firefights between infiltrators and settlers.
The only innocents in zionist Israel are the children. All adults fully understand what they are doing.
……
“Russia’s pivot from pro-Israel to pro-Arab that started with the deaths of Russian airmen caused by an IAF aggression against Syria and was locked in with Netanyahu’s support for the nazi regime in Kiev.”
Support for Nazi’s very much changes the equation considering Russian and jewish shared history with Nazism very much changes the equation. Add that to the list of hostile actions by Israel since the Russian move into Syria to destroy the headchoppers.
Pro Israel? It came across as Russia giving Israel every chance to move into the multi-polar world. I other cases this approach in the past has paid dividends, no better example than the gulf Arabs who had supported Wahhabi cia terrorists groups against Russia.
Anther approach that has paid dividends is total ammnesty for local militia groups that have fought beside the CIA Wahhabi terrorists both in Chechnya and Syria if the parted from the extremist who had converted to Wahhabism. I think the fact of Hamas fighting alongside headchoppers in Syria needs to be looked at in the same way, especially so considering the swing in their gulf Arab backers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 11 2023 16:16 utc | 46

Israeli Channel 12: A drone from Lebanon struck Dimona

Posted by: Nuff Sed | Oct 11 2023 16:18 utc | 47

Israeli Channel 12: A drone from Lebanon struck Dimona

Posted by: Nuff Sed | Oct 11 2023 16:18 utc | 48

Does Israel execute its prisoners?
Yesterday Israel said it was in the possession of the bodies of 2000 Hamas fighters. I doubt so many have been killed in combat. It is more likely that:

  1. These people were not trained Hamas fighters, but simply “returnees” from Gaza who saw the opening in the fence and wanted to see their ancestral lands.
  2. Israel executes all prisoners it captures.

A video was circulating yesterday, that shows Israelis killing four “returnees” who tried to surrender.

Video of four surrendering Palestinian forces being shot in the back by Israeli security forces, who then planted a machine gun on the unarmed corpses for the sake of victory footage.
At the time of the attempt to surrender, the Palestinians do not have weapons with them, but in the photographs after the shooting, each miraculously appears with a machine gun in their hands.
The video was published by the official media resource of the Israeli army.
Clash Report @clashreport on Twitter

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 11 2023 16:19 utc | 49

Does Israel execute its prisoners?
Yesterday Israel said it was in the possession of the bodies of 2000 Hamas fighters. I doubt so many have been killed in combat. It is more likely that:

  1. These people were not trained Hamas fighters, but simply “returnees” from Gaza who saw the opening in the fence and wanted to see their ancestral lands.
  2. Israel executes all prisoners it captures.

A video was circulating yesterday, that shows Israelis killing four “returnees” who tried to surrender.

Video of four surrendering Palestinian forces being shot in the back by Israeli security forces, who then planted a machine gun on the unarmed corpses for the sake of victory footage.
At the time of the attempt to surrender, the Palestinians do not have weapons with them, but in the photographs after the shooting, each miraculously appears with a machine gun in their hands.
The video was published by the official media resource of the Israeli army.
Clash Report @clashreport on Twitter

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 11 2023 16:19 utc | 50

Ethnic cleansing has been Israel’s main policy towards the Occupied Territories for some time. It has agreed to go slow on the West Bank to mollify the sensitivity of the Europeans and, at the same time ignore the Gaza concentration camp until it explodes and then use that as an excuse to destroy Gaza and turn it into some obscene version of Club Med. We have to remember that, while early on in Israel, there was some concern for human rights etc. due to the socialist origin of many Israeli settlers, but today what is left of humanitarianism has largely died out in Israel and, in its place, a fascist society yearning to become more belligerent and cruel.
The next month or so we will see the extent that the Israeli State turns totally fascist and we will see the Empire continue to follow that path.
Having said that I see no evidence that Arab states will do anything (they never do) and I doubt Hezbollah or Iran will do anything either.
In no way do I see Russia doing anything unless their bases in Syria are directly attacked–which won’t happen. Obviously tens of thousands of Gaza residents will be killed and it is likely ethnically cleansed with the full support of every political element in the Empire. I think we are approaching the second major step in creating Greater Israel (the first was the sabotage of the Oslo Accords by “settlers” in the West Bank).
We are living in a time that compassion, virtue, morality and so on have no place in Western Civilization.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 51

Ethnic cleansing has been Israel’s main policy towards the Occupied Territories for some time. It has agreed to go slow on the West Bank to mollify the sensitivity of the Europeans and, at the same time ignore the Gaza concentration camp until it explodes and then use that as an excuse to destroy Gaza and turn it into some obscene version of Club Med. We have to remember that, while early on in Israel, there was some concern for human rights etc. due to the socialist origin of many Israeli settlers, but today what is left of humanitarianism has largely died out in Israel and, in its place, a fascist society yearning to become more belligerent and cruel.
The next month or so we will see the extent that the Israeli State turns totally fascist and we will see the Empire continue to follow that path.
Having said that I see no evidence that Arab states will do anything (they never do) and I doubt Hezbollah or Iran will do anything either.
In no way do I see Russia doing anything unless their bases in Syria are directly attacked–which won’t happen. Obviously tens of thousands of Gaza residents will be killed and it is likely ethnically cleansed with the full support of every political element in the Empire. I think we are approaching the second major step in creating Greater Israel (the first was the sabotage of the Oslo Accords by “settlers” in the West Bank).
We are living in a time that compassion, virtue, morality and so on have no place in Western Civilization.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 52

“As long as the US have their dirty mitts in the Far East things will never improve there.”
That, it seems, is true everywhere. Has anyone done a summary spreadsheet showing the 50-odd places the US has engaged in gunboat diplomacy since the war, with ticks for those which US intervention has actually improved as a result? Are there many of them? Any of them?

Posted by: Tom Paine | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 53

“As long as the US have their dirty mitts in the Far East things will never improve there.”
That, it seems, is true everywhere. Has anyone done a summary spreadsheet showing the 50-odd places the US has engaged in gunboat diplomacy since the war, with ticks for those which US intervention has actually improved as a result? Are there many of them? Any of them?

Posted by: Tom Paine | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 54

Yep, obviously this was in the works for quite a long time and Oct 7 was the 9/11-style auto-coup that serves as the fig leaf (no intelligent person need believe it, that’s clearly irrelevant) to pull it off. I assume the present war against two million + “savage” poor people in Gaza will free up potentially exceedingly valuable coastal real estate (a new Miami on the Mediterranean?). All the MSM, including the ostensibly progressive and liberal pro LGBTQ and BLM MSM (a la the Guardian) is entirely complicit in this long-planned ethnic cleansing of some of the poorest and most long-suffering people in Asia, if not the world. Fundamentally this reveals the ongoing genocidally racist fascism at the heart of the Western imperialist project vis a vis the rest of the world.

Posted by: Ludo | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 55

Yep, obviously this was in the works for quite a long time and Oct 7 was the 9/11-style auto-coup that serves as the fig leaf (no intelligent person need believe it, that’s clearly irrelevant) to pull it off. I assume the present war against two million + “savage” poor people in Gaza will free up potentially exceedingly valuable coastal real estate (a new Miami on the Mediterranean?). All the MSM, including the ostensibly progressive and liberal pro LGBTQ and BLM MSM (a la the Guardian) is entirely complicit in this long-planned ethnic cleansing of some of the poorest and most long-suffering people in Asia, if not the world. Fundamentally this reveals the ongoing genocidally racist fascism at the heart of the Western imperialist project vis a vis the rest of the world.

Posted by: Ludo | Oct 11 2023 16:20 utc | 56

It’s interesting to watch the BBC trying to be balanced. I assume this is a reflection of diversity in the UK.
“Calling someone a terrorist means you’re taking sides and ceasing to treat the situation with due impartiality.
“The BBC’s job is to place the facts before its audience and let them decide what they think, honestly and without ranting.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67076341

Posted by: dh | Oct 11 2023 16:21 utc | 57

It’s interesting to watch the BBC trying to be balanced. I assume this is a reflection of diversity in the UK.
“Calling someone a terrorist means you’re taking sides and ceasing to treat the situation with due impartiality.
“The BBC’s job is to place the facts before its audience and let them decide what they think, honestly and without ranting.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67076341

Posted by: dh | Oct 11 2023 16:21 utc | 58

The Arab “leaders” are so venal, that if the US offers them enough money, they might well accept the Gazans being exiled to Egypt.
And if the US offers Egypt enough money per Gazan, they’ll probably take the offer eagerly.
It might well work out to be a better solution for the Gazans than staying in Gaza.
Sorry to see the Israelis benefit from their aggressive, decades-long campaign of ethnosupremacism, however.
Hamas’ shooting 260 kids didn’t help their cause much… makes you wonder why (if?) it actually happened.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:23 utc | 59

The Arab “leaders” are so venal, that if the US offers them enough money, they might well accept the Gazans being exiled to Egypt.
And if the US offers Egypt enough money per Gazan, they’ll probably take the offer eagerly.
It might well work out to be a better solution for the Gazans than staying in Gaza.
Sorry to see the Israelis benefit from their aggressive, decades-long campaign of ethnosupremacism, however.
Hamas’ shooting 260 kids didn’t help their cause much… makes you wonder why (if?) it actually happened.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:23 utc | 60

The UN granted Israel a right to exist within the borders defined by the 1947 Partition Plan.
They have no right to a millimeter more.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 11 2023 16:27 utc | 61

The UN granted Israel a right to exist within the borders defined by the 1947 Partition Plan.
They have no right to a millimeter more.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 11 2023 16:27 utc | 62

B, you are misunderstanding this. Opening the border isn’t an Israeli plan, it’s something Israel doesn’t want.
The border was open in the beginning of the war but Israel then bombed it three times, and Egypt closed it, no doubt after Israel demanded it.
Israel has also threatened to bomb any aid trucks coming from Egypt.
Palestinians who need to leave would do so if the border was open, but two million Palestinians would not leave.
Israel didn’t want the border open because it reduces the suffering of those most exposed, and allows Hamas to move in supplies. To put it this way, Hamas wants the border open, Israel doesn’t.
Biden’s White House is negotiating for opening the border because while they’re on Israel’s side, not everyone is as completely bloodthirsty and callous as the Israeli regime. Not everything is part of a plan.

Posted by: Tenet | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 63

B, you are misunderstanding this. Opening the border isn’t an Israeli plan, it’s something Israel doesn’t want.
The border was open in the beginning of the war but Israel then bombed it three times, and Egypt closed it, no doubt after Israel demanded it.
Israel has also threatened to bomb any aid trucks coming from Egypt.
Palestinians who need to leave would do so if the border was open, but two million Palestinians would not leave.
Israel didn’t want the border open because it reduces the suffering of those most exposed, and allows Hamas to move in supplies. To put it this way, Hamas wants the border open, Israel doesn’t.
Biden’s White House is negotiating for opening the border because while they’re on Israel’s side, not everyone is as completely bloodthirsty and callous as the Israeli regime. Not everything is part of a plan.

Posted by: Tenet | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 64

How many Jews in the concentration camps would have wanted to live in peace with the Nazis?
I think the only solution to the Palestinian conflict is the complete annihilation of the Palestinians or the complete dismantling of Israel.

Posted by: CIROC | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 65

How many Jews in the concentration camps would have wanted to live in peace with the Nazis?
I think the only solution to the Palestinian conflict is the complete annihilation of the Palestinians or the complete dismantling of Israel.

Posted by: CIROC | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 66

Russia tosses Israel out of Golan Heights and the Palestinians relocate there.

Posted by: Seer | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 67

Russia tosses Israel out of Golan Heights and the Palestinians relocate there.

Posted by: Seer | Oct 11 2023 16:28 utc | 68

William Haught
You have a fixation on the concert massacre meme but as yet there is zero evidence anywhere on the net that an atrocity occurred there.
I find it amazing that many who have seen the narratives put out regarding atrocities in other theaters instantly believe the zero evidence narrative in this theater.
That is not saying claimed atrocities could not have occurred but due to the experience of the last decade and more, there must be evidence before anybody can be sure they did occur.
With the modus operandi of the empire of lies, it is best to assume the innocence of the accused until proven guilty by factual evidence.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 11 2023 16:29 utc | 69

William Haught
You have a fixation on the concert massacre meme but as yet there is zero evidence anywhere on the net that an atrocity occurred there.
I find it amazing that many who have seen the narratives put out regarding atrocities in other theaters instantly believe the zero evidence narrative in this theater.
That is not saying claimed atrocities could not have occurred but due to the experience of the last decade and more, there must be evidence before anybody can be sure they did occur.
With the modus operandi of the empire of lies, it is best to assume the innocence of the accused until proven guilty by factual evidence.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 11 2023 16:29 utc | 70

@ Posted by: Sock lint | Oct 11 2023 16:07 utc | 28
“The 260 concert goers killed by hamas story looks bogus to me. Where is the evidence?”
My friend, you are either poorly informed, lazy, or a little stoopid.
There are hundreds of videos documenting the event, to use a neutral term.
One of the people at the festival, who is either dead or kidnapped, is a friend of friends, indirectly connected to my social networks, so i know they are not fakes. People are freaking out and grieving.
I can’t speak to the exact numbers. Perhaps you can monitor social media and various channels, pretty sure the funerals will be well publicized and there are likely already lists online of the people missing. Perhaps you could consider proving that any are not real people before you say another dumb thing?

Posted by: Rubiconned | Oct 11 2023 16:29 utc | 71

@ Posted by: Sock lint | Oct 11 2023 16:07 utc | 28
“The 260 concert goers killed by hamas story looks bogus to me. Where is the evidence?”
My friend, you are either poorly informed, lazy, or a little stoopid.
There are hundreds of videos documenting the event, to use a neutral term.
One of the people at the festival, who is either dead or kidnapped, is a friend of friends, indirectly connected to my social networks, so i know they are not fakes. People are freaking out and grieving.
I can’t speak to the exact numbers. Perhaps you can monitor social media and various channels, pretty sure the funerals will be well publicized and there are likely already lists online of the people missing. Perhaps you could consider proving that any are not real people before you say another dumb thing?

Posted by: Rubiconned | Oct 11 2023 16:29 utc | 72

Ethnic Cleansing was the oft stated policy of the War Party in the War to Destroy Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:33 utc | 73

Ethnic Cleansing was the oft stated policy of the War Party in the War to Destroy Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:33 utc | 74

Suppose when Sitting Bull busted out of Gaza he took the Sioux to Canada.
On the Ukraine link to Little Bighorn in the eastern Mediterranean seems a number of Israeli “trainer/advisors are sent home to help cleanse Gaza.

Posted by: paddy | Oct 11 2023 16:33 utc | 75

Suppose when Sitting Bull busted out of Gaza he took the Sioux to Canada.
On the Ukraine link to Little Bighorn in the eastern Mediterranean seems a number of Israeli “trainer/advisors are sent home to help cleanse Gaza.

Posted by: paddy | Oct 11 2023 16:33 utc | 76

I have seen very little (outside of Al Jazeera) that mentions West Bank. Zionists have completely isolated them and closed all checkpoints, at this moment they are sitting ducks. The only hope is if Lions’ Den and other groups eliminate the PA leadership, take their weapons and join the fight. If the zionists actually do stage a manned invasion of Gaza, they will get their asses handed to them and then some. Zionists are only good at killing women, children and the unarmed, they cannot fight a real army.
Nuttyahoo has said this war will ‘change the face of the middle east’, perhaps it could if done properly.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Oct 11 2023 16:36 utc | 77

I have seen very little (outside of Al Jazeera) that mentions West Bank. Zionists have completely isolated them and closed all checkpoints, at this moment they are sitting ducks. The only hope is if Lions’ Den and other groups eliminate the PA leadership, take their weapons and join the fight. If the zionists actually do stage a manned invasion of Gaza, they will get their asses handed to them and then some. Zionists are only good at killing women, children and the unarmed, they cannot fight a real army.
Nuttyahoo has said this war will ‘change the face of the middle east’, perhaps it could if done properly.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Oct 11 2023 16:36 utc | 78

The Russian military has long identified Israel as an enemy state and Putin is now conceding to them, acknowledging the failure of yet another one of his strategies, namely the political use of the Russian Jewish community in Israel via his “friend” Avigdor Lieberman. Russian Jews in Israel are virulently anti-Arab, so Putin tried not to upset them.

this is what i referenced yesterday and it needs to stop. lavrov and shoigu have never been on board but putin just had to act like any groveling western politician when he met the ashkeNAZIS. funny that you included a helmer link since he’s had the best takes on that situation over the past few years. any dual russian/”israel” citizens need to be given an ultimatum at this point: if you can’t be a citizen of the “islamic state” then you can’t be a citizen of the zionist version of such. quit pretending everyone wants to “pogrom” you and get your whining ass back to russia or goodbye.
as for western meddling: just like the “israelis”, the US does great when it lobs missiles from a big boat or drops bombs from overpriced planes but when either hits the ground it tends to go tits up. let’s hope this continues.

Posted by: the pair | Oct 11 2023 16:39 utc | 79

The Russian military has long identified Israel as an enemy state and Putin is now conceding to them, acknowledging the failure of yet another one of his strategies, namely the political use of the Russian Jewish community in Israel via his “friend” Avigdor Lieberman. Russian Jews in Israel are virulently anti-Arab, so Putin tried not to upset them.

this is what i referenced yesterday and it needs to stop. lavrov and shoigu have never been on board but putin just had to act like any groveling western politician when he met the ashkeNAZIS. funny that you included a helmer link since he’s had the best takes on that situation over the past few years. any dual russian/”israel” citizens need to be given an ultimatum at this point: if you can’t be a citizen of the “islamic state” then you can’t be a citizen of the zionist version of such. quit pretending everyone wants to “pogrom” you and get your whining ass back to russia or goodbye.
as for western meddling: just like the “israelis”, the US does great when it lobs missiles from a big boat or drops bombs from overpriced planes but when either hits the ground it tends to go tits up. let’s hope this continues.

Posted by: the pair | Oct 11 2023 16:39 utc | 80

When I see this report I have little doubt that there indeed have been massacres committed by Hamas. However – the Israelis have never shied away from committing massacres themselves. It has now echoed back to them.

Posted by: b | Oct 11 2023 16:40 utc | 81

When I see this report I have little doubt that there indeed have been massacres committed by Hamas. However – the Israelis have never shied away from committing massacres themselves. It has now echoed back to them.

Posted by: b | Oct 11 2023 16:40 utc | 82

The concert goers appear to have been shot by IDF and Settler types who were spraying and praying their weapons
Video shows this

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 83

The concert goers appear to have been shot by IDF and Settler types who were spraying and praying their weapons
Video shows this

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 84

https://english.manartv.com.lb/1928082
Missile attack on Israeli soldiers near border fence with Lebanon.

Posted by: Waldorf | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 85

https://english.manartv.com.lb/1928082
Missile attack on Israeli soldiers near border fence with Lebanon.

Posted by: Waldorf | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 86

Posted by: hedlykarok | Oct 11 2023 16:36 utc | 39
If the zionists actually do stage a manned invasion of Gaza, they will get their asses handed to them and then some. Zionists are only good at killing women, children and the unarmed, they cannot fight a real army.

That may be so, but the Palestinians are not a real army.
It’s all moot, anyway. The Israelis have complete air supremacy over the region and can flatten Gaza (and the West Bank) from the air. No need for a ground invasion, though Netanyahu might order one eventually for the optics of “doing something”.
Without MANPADS the Palestinians are doomed, and even with them they couldn’t hit the fighter-bombers dropping munitions beyond the shoulder-fired missiles’ rather limited range.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:43 utc | 87

Posted by: hedlykarok | Oct 11 2023 16:36 utc | 39
If the zionists actually do stage a manned invasion of Gaza, they will get their asses handed to them and then some. Zionists are only good at killing women, children and the unarmed, they cannot fight a real army.

That may be so, but the Palestinians are not a real army.
It’s all moot, anyway. The Israelis have complete air supremacy over the region and can flatten Gaza (and the West Bank) from the air. No need for a ground invasion, though Netanyahu might order one eventually for the optics of “doing something”.
Without MANPADS the Palestinians are doomed, and even with them they couldn’t hit the fighter-bombers dropping munitions beyond the shoulder-fired missiles’ rather limited range.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:43 utc | 88

Sissi not in favour of taking in Gazans, even temporarily. If HE is brought down this would more than negate anything done to Hamas.
Silent treatment being given to the severity of the beating of IDF soldiers/officers.
As to the rest, wonder how often Palestinian human shields have been used to suppress Hamas gunmen. Who needs God when the Israeli military censir exists?

Posted by: Dilnir | Oct 11 2023 16:43 utc | 89

Sissi not in favour of taking in Gazans, even temporarily. If HE is brought down this would more than negate anything done to Hamas.
Silent treatment being given to the severity of the beating of IDF soldiers/officers.
As to the rest, wonder how often Palestinian human shields have been used to suppress Hamas gunmen. Who needs God when the Israeli military censir exists?

Posted by: Dilnir | Oct 11 2023 16:43 utc | 90

I may be mistaken but I believe that something in the order of 18 million Germans were expelled from eastern european countries in the years after 1945.
This was done, largely by local governments and was against the advice and policy of the Soviet Union which denounced the process as racism. Which it was and is.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 11 2023 16:44 utc | 91

I may be mistaken but I believe that something in the order of 18 million Germans were expelled from eastern european countries in the years after 1945.
This was done, largely by local governments and was against the advice and policy of the Soviet Union which denounced the process as racism. Which it was and is.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 11 2023 16:44 utc | 92

Lebanon’s Hezbollah on war footing but moves carefully as conflict widens
Hezbollah knows that if it joins the fight full force then their are a couple of carriers and the Israeli Air force is ready to bomb the hell out of them. Their only hope is that they will run out of ammo. That being said they have a long memory and ways to strike back anywhere and everywhere
With the age of drone warfare Israel is going to lose a lot of their equpment and men if Hamas and Hezbollah has really planned this out and stocked up on drones.
A catastrophy is in the making in Gaza humdreds of thousands dead from lack of water, food, electricity, medicne and of course; there is no lack of gunpowder.

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 11 2023 16:44 utc | 93

Lebanon’s Hezbollah on war footing but moves carefully as conflict widens
Hezbollah knows that if it joins the fight full force then their are a couple of carriers and the Israeli Air force is ready to bomb the hell out of them. Their only hope is that they will run out of ammo. That being said they have a long memory and ways to strike back anywhere and everywhere
With the age of drone warfare Israel is going to lose a lot of their equpment and men if Hamas and Hezbollah has really planned this out and stocked up on drones.
A catastrophy is in the making in Gaza humdreds of thousands dead from lack of water, food, electricity, medicne and of course; there is no lack of gunpowder.

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 11 2023 16:44 utc | 94

Ukres and Israelis the same?
Ukes pay to leave their country. Israelis pay to return to their country.
Great similarity.
🙂

Posted by: Dilnir | Oct 11 2023 16:46 utc | 95

Ukres and Israelis the same?
Ukes pay to leave their country. Israelis pay to return to their country.
Great similarity.
🙂

Posted by: Dilnir | Oct 11 2023 16:46 utc | 96

Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 42
“The concert goers appear to have been shot by IDF and Settler types who were spraying and praying their weapons
Video shows this”
I can well believe their attitude would be, “Kill them all, God will know his own.”
Of course this Sodom-and-Gomorrah drug rave right outside the prison wall was a deliberate provocation in the first place. No doubt taunting the prison was part of the fun for the concert-goers.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 11 2023 16:47 utc | 97

Exile | Oct 11 2023 16:42 utc | 42
“The concert goers appear to have been shot by IDF and Settler types who were spraying and praying their weapons
Video shows this”
I can well believe their attitude would be, “Kill them all, God will know his own.”
Of course this Sodom-and-Gomorrah drug rave right outside the prison wall was a deliberate provocation in the first place. No doubt taunting the prison was part of the fun for the concert-goers.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 11 2023 16:47 utc | 98

BTW – has anyone explained how the Palestinians managed to get paragliders up to a sufficient altitude that they could fly several miles over the border? All at once?
Seems a bit fishy to me.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:51 utc | 99

BTW – has anyone explained how the Palestinians managed to get paragliders up to a sufficient altitude that they could fly several miles over the border? All at once?
Seems a bit fishy to me.

Posted by: Observer | Oct 11 2023 16:51 utc | 100