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October 29, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-254
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“ukraine“ just declared that naftogaz wont continiue transit of russian gas by the end of 2024. No extension of contract. Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 1 “ukraine“ just declared that naftogaz wont continiue transit of russian gas by the end of 2024. No extension of contract. Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 2 What distinguishes us Russians from the Ukrainians? Posted by: Oberbayer | Oct 29 2023 13:25 utc | 3 What distinguishes us Russians from the Ukrainians? Posted by: Oberbayer | Oct 29 2023 13:25 utc | 4 @ Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 1 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 5 @ Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 1 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 6 Any news on Russian aviation ? Posted by: Newbie | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 7 Any news on Russian aviation ? Posted by: Newbie | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 8
Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 13:52 utc | 9
Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 13:52 utc | 10
https://t.me/remylind21/10191 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 14:00 utc | 11
https://t.me/remylind21/10191 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 14:00 utc | 12
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20305 Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 14:15 utc | 13
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20305 Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 14:15 utc | 14 Ukraine Weekly Update – may be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-940 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 14:34 utc | 15 Ukraine Weekly Update – may be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-940 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 14:34 utc | 16 Inventory Update: A total of 517 aircraft, 253 helicopters, 8,392 unmanned aerial vehicles, 441 anti-aircraft missile systems, 13,006 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,170 multiple rocket launchers, 6,902 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 14,760 units of special military vehicles are now gone! Posted by: AI | Oct 29 2023 15:06 utc | 17 Inventory Update: A total of 517 aircraft, 253 helicopters, 8,392 unmanned aerial vehicles, 441 anti-aircraft missile systems, 13,006 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,170 multiple rocket launchers, 6,902 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 14,760 units of special military vehicles are now gone! Posted by: AI | Oct 29 2023 15:06 utc | 18
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20314 Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 15:16 utc | 19
https://t.me/rezident_ua/20314 Posted by: Down South | Oct 29 2023 15:16 utc | 20 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 14:34 utc | 8
Thank you. I read it every week. Very informative and succint. But the slag heap will not be another Mamaev Kurgan. Ukies will not take it, lose it and re-take it like the Germans did with the famous hill overlooking the Volga. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 29 2023 15:25 utc | 23 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 14:34 utc | 8
Thank you. I read it every week. Very informative and succint. But the slag heap will not be another Mamaev Kurgan. Ukies will not take it, lose it and re-take it like the Germans did with the famous hill overlooking the Volga. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 29 2023 15:25 utc | 24 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 29 2023 15:25 utc | 12 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 15:37 utc | 25 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 29 2023 15:25 utc | 12 Posted by: Robert Hamilton Camp | Oct 29 2023 15:37 utc | 26 Posted by: AI | Oct 29 2023 15:06 utc | 9
I think it’s safe to say that the initial AFU air force (around 300 fighters, bombers, transport aircraft, trainers etc.) and pretty much all Polish/Czech etc. externally provided aircraft are gone. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 15:41 utc | 27 Posted by: AI | Oct 29 2023 15:06 utc | 9
I think it’s safe to say that the initial AFU air force (around 300 fighters, bombers, transport aircraft, trainers etc.) and pretty much all Polish/Czech etc. externally provided aircraft are gone. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 15:41 utc | 28 I think it’s interesting that all the pro-Ukrainian OSINT sites seem to be closing down. Between that and Kirby recycling Spring 2022 talking points about Russia’s conscripts it sure seems like the Ukraine desk is being liquidated. No matter how many times Biden or Yellen claim the US can manage two wars at once, the truth is almost certainly that it cannot. An election year will make that even more difficult because foreign policy is always an extension of domestic politics in the US. Posted by: Lex | Oct 29 2023 16:01 utc | 29 I think it’s interesting that all the pro-Ukrainian OSINT sites seem to be closing down. Between that and Kirby recycling Spring 2022 talking points about Russia’s conscripts it sure seems like the Ukraine desk is being liquidated. No matter how many times Biden or Yellen claim the US can manage two wars at once, the truth is almost certainly that it cannot. An election year will make that even more difficult because foreign policy is always an extension of domestic politics in the US. Posted by: Lex | Oct 29 2023 16:01 utc | 30 Hi! Does anyone ever view videos from the Ukie site “hromadske”? They are obviously pro AFU and do some propaganda style editing but I think they are less propagandist than most of the rotating talking heads that Americans see on corporate cable news channels. Hromadske’s videos show lives of AFU soldiers on the front lines and by reading between the lines and seeing things, a person can gain tidbits of real knowledge. One of the things a person sees in the hromadske videos is the age of the soldiers, the average age is much, much older than say the guys in my kid’s U.S. Army platoon, there was a video from last fall, probably filmed in October, where the entire Ukie tank crew was 50+ years old. That doesn’t exist in the U.S. Army, even with reserve elements. Posted by: DakotaRog | Oct 29 2023 16:03 utc | 31 Hi! Does anyone ever view videos from the Ukie site “hromadske”? They are obviously pro AFU and do some propaganda style editing but I think they are less propagandist than most of the rotating talking heads that Americans see on corporate cable news channels. Hromadske’s videos show lives of AFU soldiers on the front lines and by reading between the lines and seeing things, a person can gain tidbits of real knowledge. One of the things a person sees in the hromadske videos is the age of the soldiers, the average age is much, much older than say the guys in my kid’s U.S. Army platoon, there was a video from last fall, probably filmed in October, where the entire Ukie tank crew was 50+ years old. That doesn’t exist in the U.S. Army, even with reserve elements. Posted by: DakotaRog | Oct 29 2023 16:03 utc | 32 Ah comrades, the steady beat of craven disinformation continues. Look, here comes the Trumpy Mike Johnson, a light for RF! He makes some trouble for those war monger internationalist Democrats! Lo! The GOP squawks about decoupling Ukraine funding and Israel bonus pay. The elements of the GOP base that are pro RF and the whole Bronze Age Mindset schtick, nod, go, “yeh huh, ya see!” Dugin etal preach, “Then, we have won!” (Yet again, oh, yet again. What a clever plan! Don’t you see?). Then, after the morons go to watch football or whatever dazed distraction, the new speaker clarifies. Oh yes, maximum war support to win for Ukraine: Beat China down. But yes, decouple from Israel. Sure. Decouple away. Shummer gets to present a “clean” Israel bill to a standing O. The show. The kayfabe. Keep drawing RF in for what? The west literally can not believe how well they have pulled off this limited war. So ready to go big. All the factories tooled up and raring. Ramping up for years. The Trump theater decoupling from China. All preparing Old U.S. “irrational” theory. And why PRC prod, support, encourage RF? (They really did, remember? Remember? …Oh, but for that “Olympic delay” thanks to Xi and Putin’s grandiosity, Kyiv could well have fallen in weeks. But the bait and hope keep getting fed in. The west will change course, the leader will change. the materials and money will dry up. RF can not fathom the depth of the US economy alone, let alone with all the industrialized nations of the world. PRC nightmare? Why did they goad RF? All a multi generational NWO mind fuck on us all, friends. Free your mind, and your ass will follow. (pfunk) IDK if PRC is NWO. But, at this dire point, where empire pits all the players against themselves, we must transcend and revolutionize without relent. Who ‘nuther level. A lot of love. and some fine rifles in skilled hands, no doubt, here and there. The love revolution to stop moron may be a hope. As for RF best move to keep Moscow and St Petersburg, legislate a reversal of Crimea and Ukraine “republics” annexation, withdraw from all occupied territories of Ukraine, Georgia, Transnitria, and join with the west in the containment of PRC hell state. If not, PRC will take east, and buy west in your fire sale. (ongoing). For those who love the Russian people, because, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Kropotkin, etc… it has been agony to see the NWO AngloUS/German operation overthrow the lovely soviets and instal Lenin to end the war in the German east. The plan worked beyond imagining, and the Red Fascist menace took over all the years of progressive anarchist development and humanity. The international was hijacked by red fascist LeninStalin and then its creature Mao. All run and funded out of Harriman Wall St NWO gang. Facts. Control the dialectic. With lots of good intentions to mold society! Look at the growth and wonders! Just also old, dumb plans of 19th century people who understood little of planetary or physical science. But good intentions must abound, because somehow we are still here for all the mindfuckery. Have RF consume itself in Ukraine. Have Israel divide the Ottoman Empire, and then fight within itself. Look at the DNA tests Israel ran when all the Ethiopians came and “Jews” of a certain type got uppity that they might not be jews. So the big daily paper and universities did huge DNA work to identify some presumed “jewish marker genes” and they claimed they did and they claimed the study showed these Ethiopian jews were, in fact, of the twelve tribes! The most Jewish of all, though, as reported in that big daily and everywhere then, were the “Palestinians”. Those who stayed. Those who survived thousands of years in the same place. Brothers and sisters. Family. Divide and conquer. The trauma programing of the jews. Then who made Hamas? Shin Bet and Mossad. To counter PLO. Israel divide the created nations of old Ottoman empire, Israel divide on itself. West profits hill awaiting disaster, for them. Russia dismantled. Oh yes! Getting better all the time. How far will the mandarin spread. Time to change tack. Or else. This is terrible. Or, relent, modernize, help contain PRC (and free them from nightmare state) and have vast prosperity in your core. Really terrible position. God speed and love! Stop all this, because, you know, nano science will free or kill us all soon enough. Posted by: Aholioho | Oct 29 2023 16:15 utc | 33 Ah comrades, the steady beat of craven disinformation continues. Look, here comes the Trumpy Mike Johnson, a light for RF! He makes some trouble for those war monger internationalist Democrats! Lo! The GOP squawks about decoupling Ukraine funding and Israel bonus pay. The elements of the GOP base that are pro RF and the whole Bronze Age Mindset schtick, nod, go, “yeh huh, ya see!” Dugin etal preach, “Then, we have won!” (Yet again, oh, yet again. What a clever plan! Don’t you see?). Then, after the morons go to watch football or whatever dazed distraction, the new speaker clarifies. Oh yes, maximum war support to win for Ukraine: Beat China down. But yes, decouple from Israel. Sure. Decouple away. Shummer gets to present a “clean” Israel bill to a standing O. The show. The kayfabe. Keep drawing RF in for what? The west literally can not believe how well they have pulled off this limited war. So ready to go big. All the factories tooled up and raring. Ramping up for years. The Trump theater decoupling from China. All preparing Old U.S. “irrational” theory. And why PRC prod, support, encourage RF? (They really did, remember? Remember? …Oh, but for that “Olympic delay” thanks to Xi and Putin’s grandiosity, Kyiv could well have fallen in weeks. But the bait and hope keep getting fed in. The west will change course, the leader will change. the materials and money will dry up. RF can not fathom the depth of the US economy alone, let alone with all the industrialized nations of the world. PRC nightmare? Why did they goad RF? All a multi generational NWO mind fuck on us all, friends. Free your mind, and your ass will follow. (pfunk) IDK if PRC is NWO. But, at this dire point, where empire pits all the players against themselves, we must transcend and revolutionize without relent. Who ‘nuther level. A lot of love. and some fine rifles in skilled hands, no doubt, here and there. The love revolution to stop moron may be a hope. As for RF best move to keep Moscow and St Petersburg, legislate a reversal of Crimea and Ukraine “republics” annexation, withdraw from all occupied territories of Ukraine, Georgia, Transnitria, and join with the west in the containment of PRC hell state. If not, PRC will take east, and buy west in your fire sale. (ongoing). For those who love the Russian people, because, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Kropotkin, etc… it has been agony to see the NWO AngloUS/German operation overthrow the lovely soviets and instal Lenin to end the war in the German east. The plan worked beyond imagining, and the Red Fascist menace took over all the years of progressive anarchist development and humanity. The international was hijacked by red fascist LeninStalin and then its creature Mao. All run and funded out of Harriman Wall St NWO gang. Facts. Control the dialectic. With lots of good intentions to mold society! Look at the growth and wonders! Just also old, dumb plans of 19th century people who understood little of planetary or physical science. But good intentions must abound, because somehow we are still here for all the mindfuckery. Have RF consume itself in Ukraine. Have Israel divide the Ottoman Empire, and then fight within itself. Look at the DNA tests Israel ran when all the Ethiopians came and “Jews” of a certain type got uppity that they might not be jews. So the big daily paper and universities did huge DNA work to identify some presumed “jewish marker genes” and they claimed they did and they claimed the study showed these Ethiopian jews were, in fact, of the twelve tribes! The most Jewish of all, though, as reported in that big daily and everywhere then, were the “Palestinians”. Those who stayed. Those who survived thousands of years in the same place. Brothers and sisters. Family. Divide and conquer. The trauma programing of the jews. Then who made Hamas? Shin Bet and Mossad. To counter PLO. Israel divide the created nations of old Ottoman empire, Israel divide on itself. West profits hill awaiting disaster, for them. Russia dismantled. Oh yes! Getting better all the time. How far will the mandarin spread. Time to change tack. Or else. This is terrible. Or, relent, modernize, help contain PRC (and free them from nightmare state) and have vast prosperity in your core. Really terrible position. God speed and love! Stop all this, because, you know, nano science will free or kill us all soon enough. Posted by: Aholioho | Oct 29 2023 16:15 utc | 34 Posted by: Lex | Oct 29 2023 16:01 utc | 15 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:21 utc | 35 Posted by: Lex | Oct 29 2023 16:01 utc | 15 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:21 utc | 36 reply to 18 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 37 reply to 18 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 38 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: Mario | Oct 29 2023 16:44 utc | 39 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: Mario | Oct 29 2023 16:44 utc | 40 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:56 utc | 41 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:56 utc | 42 Posted by: Aholioho | Oct 29 2023 16:15 utc | 17 Posted by: morongobill | Oct 29 2023 17:08 utc | 43 Posted by: Aholioho | Oct 29 2023 16:15 utc | 17 Posted by: morongobill | Oct 29 2023 17:08 utc | 44 Ivan Utenkov’s opinion WRT the Avdeeka operation.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 29 2023 17:23 utc | 45 Ivan Utenkov’s opinion WRT the Avdeeka operation.. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 29 2023 17:23 utc | 46 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 29 2023 17:23 utc | 23 Posted by: migueljose | Oct 29 2023 17:36 utc | 47 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 29 2023 17:23 utc | 23 Posted by: migueljose | Oct 29 2023 17:36 utc | 48 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:56 utc | 21 Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 17:42 utc | 49 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:56 utc | 21 Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 17:42 utc | 50 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:21 utc | 18 Posted by: migueljose | Oct 29 2023 17:49 utc | 51 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 29 2023 16:21 utc | 18 Posted by: migueljose | Oct 29 2023 17:49 utc | 52 Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 18:26 utc | 53 Eighthman | Oct 29 2023 16:30 utc | 19 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 18:26 utc | 54 The next step is Ukrainian nationalists turning against their sponsors and lashing out at Europe. Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:26 utc | 55 The next step is Ukrainian nationalists turning against their sponsors and lashing out at Europe. Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:26 utc | 56 Avdeyevka military question: Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:31 utc | 57 Avdeyevka military question: Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:31 utc | 58 “Sputnik talks about EU efforts to commit theft of Russian funds. They don’t have a legal framework to steal as yet. What you say might give them what they need. The bondholders would claim they can’t get paid because Russia wrecked Ukraine, hence, give us their funds.” Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 29 2023 20:59 utc | 59 “Sputnik talks about EU efforts to commit theft of Russian funds. They don’t have a legal framework to steal as yet. What you say might give them what they need. The bondholders would claim they can’t get paid because Russia wrecked Ukraine, hence, give us their funds.” Posted by: Echo Chamber | Oct 29 2023 20:59 utc | 60 It seems Russia is unable to stop Ukrainians who are attacking via Dnieper. Posted by: zorge | Oct 29 2023 21:06 utc | 61 It seems Russia is unable to stop Ukrainians who are attacking via Dnieper. Posted by: zorge | Oct 29 2023 21:06 utc | 62 Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:31 utc | 29 Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 29 2023 21:08 utc | 63 Posted by: smuks | Oct 29 2023 20:31 utc | 29 Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 29 2023 21:08 utc | 64 Posted by: zorge | Oct 29 2023 21:06 utc | 31 Posted by: Macpott | Oct 29 2023 21:32 utc | 65 Posted by: zorge | Oct 29 2023 21:06 utc | 31 Posted by: Macpott | Oct 29 2023 21:32 utc | 66 Re: Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 1
Very interesting stuff. Posted by: Julian | Oct 29 2023 22:53 utc | 67 Re: Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 13:09 utc | 1
Very interesting stuff. Posted by: Julian | Oct 29 2023 22:53 utc | 68
Great update. Thanks! Posted by: Simon | Oct 29 2023 22:55 utc | 69
Great update. Thanks! Posted by: Simon | Oct 29 2023 22:55 utc | 70 Re: Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 3 ”get the job done” and roll up to the Hungarian border by the end of 2024. Re: Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 13:39 utc | 3 ”get the job done” and roll up to the Hungarian border by the end of 2024. I think “ukraines“ decision regarding the gas transit could be to get russia into zugzwang, precisely because of the hungary/serbia/slovakia issue that the eu/nato faces. Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 73 I think “ukraines“ decision regarding the gas transit could be to get russia into zugzwang, precisely because of the hungary/serbia/slovakia issue that the eu/nato faces. Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 74 @ Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 37 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:15 utc | 75 @ Justpassinby | Oct 29 2023 23:09 utc | 37 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:15 utc | 76 The Ukraine project is finished. Hamas’ 7th Oct move, by design or default has been the final nail for NATO’S Eastern front. Posted by: Suresh | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 77 The Ukraine project is finished. Hamas’ 7th Oct move, by design or default has been the final nail for NATO’S Eastern front. Posted by: Suresh | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 78 Suresh | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 39 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:45 utc | 79 Suresh | Oct 29 2023 23:33 utc | 39 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:45 utc | 80 @ Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:45 utc | 40 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 81 @ Cynic | Oct 29 2023 23:45 utc | 40 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 29 2023 23:48 utc | 82 As Ukraine aid fails the dirty tricks will increase. Moldova, Turkey (Turkstream), pressure on Hungary and Slovakia, Georgia. The CIA trained Ukrainian proxies will get to work overtime… Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 30 2023 1:04 utc | 83 As Ukraine aid fails the dirty tricks will increase. Moldova, Turkey (Turkstream), pressure on Hungary and Slovakia, Georgia. The CIA trained Ukrainian proxies will get to work overtime… Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 30 2023 1:04 utc | 84 and don’t tell me this is a war of attrition – if you don’t take the territory you don’t own it. Posted by: Screwdriver | Oct 30 2023 1:15 utc | 85 and don’t tell me this is a war of attrition – if you don’t take the territory you don’t own it. Posted by: Screwdriver | Oct 30 2023 1:15 utc | 86 @ Screwdriver | Oct 30 2023 1:15 utc | 43 trying to talk some sense into our barflea Julian Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 1:32 utc | 87 @ Screwdriver | Oct 30 2023 1:15 utc | 43 trying to talk some sense into our barflea Julian Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2023 1:32 utc | 88 the artillery losses of the Ukes matches the loss of Ukes airforce. Posted by: Joe Below | Oct 30 2023 2:15 utc | 89 the artillery losses of the Ukes matches the loss of Ukes airforce. Posted by: Joe Below | Oct 30 2023 2:15 utc | 90 by Julian | Oct 29 2023 22:53 utc | 34 Posted by: whirlX | Oct 30 2023 3:28 utc | 91 by Julian | Oct 29 2023 22:53 utc | 34 Posted by: whirlX | Oct 30 2023 3:28 utc | 92 I watched a recent Ukrainian film called “The Line” on Amazon that some might find of interest. A mafia drama set on the Ukrainian Slovak border at the the time of the Slovak accession to the EU. Gives a sense of the conditions along the Ukrainian EU borders – corruption and violence amidst/bred by relative poverty. Doubt much has changed. Of course national borders always have some of this character, but I suspect the Ukrainian borders are a textbook case. A lot of extra money to be made with the conscription avoiders, weapons, and aid goods. Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 30 2023 4:48 utc | 93 I watched a recent Ukrainian film called “The Line” on Amazon that some might find of interest. A mafia drama set on the Ukrainian Slovak border at the the time of the Slovak accession to the EU. Gives a sense of the conditions along the Ukrainian EU borders – corruption and violence amidst/bred by relative poverty. Doubt much has changed. Of course national borders always have some of this character, but I suspect the Ukrainian borders are a textbook case. A lot of extra money to be made with the conscription avoiders, weapons, and aid goods. Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 30 2023 4:48 utc | 94
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